From: Chuck McManis <cmcmanis(a)mcmanis.com>
>Hello all, I've got a VT340 that is very fuzzy. (blurry) I'd like to try
>and refocus it but I don't have the maintenance manual for this
terminal.
>Does anyone have any suggestions on where to start (well I'm going to
start
>by seeing if the yoke has slipped backward on the tube neck, but other
than
>that)
The focus pot is part of the flyback as is the HV adjust. I believe the
Yoke
is bonded on that tube so movement is unlikely.
Allison
Same way you would for floppy only slower.
I'd make a bootable floppy first and put the DU/MU drivers
on it plus anything else you need as RX50 is has enough room for
a useable system. Then I think, you need DUP and BUP on there.
I have the capability but I backup to RL02 as it's much faster.
Also that RD54 (159mb) will likely be partitioned into 5 drives
as RT-11 can only address up to 32mb disks.
Allison
From: emanuel stiebler <emu(a)ecubics.com>
>I have rd54 & rx50 & tk70 in a system running rt11 5.4
>
>How can I make an bootable backup tape of the system drive ?
>
>cheers & thanks,
>emanuel
>
From: Jay West <west(a)tseinc.com>
>Several bugs were found in the list archives at www.classiccmp.org and
these
>have all been fixed to the best of my knowledge. If anyone sees anything
>further, please let me know asap.
Jay, the email address for me is changed. I was getting burried in
UCE/SPAM
so the replacement is kb1gmx(a)qsl.net.
Allison
From: Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net>
> Here's a question somewhat related. As mentioned previously,
>I had two Maxtor XT-8380E hard disks in my MicroVAX II, but removed
>one of them to put the TK-50 in the machine. I've never gotten the
>TK-50 working correctly though and would like to use the second hard
>disk to back up the data that's on the one that is still in the
>machine. It is running VMS 4.6. What is the best way of mirroring
>the first drive on the second, regardless of what might be on the
>second? I'll likely pull the second drive back out after copying the
>data over to it. Without any kind of media or a working TK-50, this
>is really the only option I have for backing up the data and
>restoring it in case of a problem later on.
Easy run INIT the target disk and run standalone backup with /image
>from dua0: to duan: I generally do that. You can close the OS that
way too but only if you dont fully configure it first. Run HELP for
details.
Allison
Allison
We spent a lot of time testing the classiccmp mailing list - couldn't find a
single problem. There were one or two people who said they were getting the
digests twice, but they never gave me details. The only thing I can think
of, is that they were having problems with their pop mail session to their
ISP? If you start to download your mailbox of say 50 messages, and the
connection is lost (not the internet connection, but the pop session), the
server will re-transmit the entire batch so you'll keep getting those
messages over again until a complete sucessful download occurs - then it
will mark them as deleted on the server end. Again, this would be an issue
with the ISP, not us. If anyone still has problems or can supply further
details, please let me know.
Several bugs were found in the list archives at www.classiccmp.org and these
have all been fixed to the best of my knowledge. If anyone sees anything
further, please let me know asap.
Regards,
Jay West
From: emanuel stiebler <emu(a)ecubics.com>
>> I'd make a bootable floppy first and put the DU/MU drivers
>> on it plus anything else you need as RX50 is has enough room for
>> a useable system. Then I think, you need DUP and BUP on there.
>> I have the capability but I backup to RL02 as it's much faster.
>
>My intention was to get rid of the floppy drive. (And get a smaller
>system this way)
>What I was (probably ;-) really asking,
>if there is anything like the BRU & SAVESET combination we know
>from RSX11.
I thought I mentioned BUP, yes it did.
Allison
Browsing the surplus stores today - came across three things I don't have
any interest in... maybe someone does - if so, email me.
Calcomp 1034 (Or was it 1038?) plotter. This thing is BIG. Appears to be in
good cosmetic shape, have no idea if it works or not.
AT&T PC 6300
Something called an AT&T 6386 (or something like that) WGS. Noticed a few
recent posts on the list about this machine too.
Jay West
Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
> EDS (my mistype) is Ross Perot's company and they now have a
> signed contract with the Dept. of Navy to take over the LANs and
> pretty much every other aspect of computers and thier maintainance.
> NMCI is the arm of the company doing it. The contract is for an
> astronimical amount of money and the closest comparison is the Borg:
> they are coming in, taking all exisiting equipment, replacing it with
> a 'one size fits all' desktop and charging you handsomely for both
> the replacement and every little thing you want to do with it.
Y'all might want to wander over to alt.tasteless and look for a thread
titled something like "Near Ape Shit At Work Today". Seems someone
did not like his Mac being replaced and so attacked the EDS staffer(s)
who came to do the deed with a hacksaw. However he was not
successful.
-Frank McConnell
On Apr 6, 18:12, John Honniball wrote:
> Are you thinking of the Pertec magnetic tape interface? I
> have a Cifer front-loading half-inch magtape drive that
> (I'm told) has the Pertec interface. It has two large
> 50-way ribbon cables coming out of the back.
>
> So, much as I hate to say "Me Too", I'd also like to find
> out more about the Pertec interface. Was there ever a PC
> ISA-bus card for this? Or a VME (Sun-3) card?
I'm sure there are VME cards. Dunno about ISA.
I've posted the pinout for the 2 x 50-way interface on my website at
http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/pertec.ps. It's a PostScript file.
I can't remember where the information originally came from, it was either
an Emulex TC02 manual or the manual for my tape deck.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> wrote:
> FWIW I do consider the 9000 520 an odd machine. Perhaps unusual would be
> a better term. I've been collecting HP computers for a good number of years
> and I've never seen one before. I found (and bought) one a couple of weeks
> ago. Before that the only person that I know of that actually had one was
> Frank McConnell. My research indicates that there were a lot 520s used by
> the US navy and some of it's subcontractors but few elsewhere. Even my
> contacts at HP tell me that the 520 was problematic and was very late
> getting into production and was a commercail failure. Despite the large
> number of them used by the US Navy, very few managed to get into the
> surplus market. I couldn't find a single surplus dealer that had one or
> that even knew what they were.
The 9000/500 may have been a commercial failure, but HP learned a lot
>from it -- its I/O bus (later known as CIO I think) was adopted by the
PA-RISC 9000/800 (and 3000/900) machines. I expect this meant the
machines had trade-in value for their I/O cards (as well as the gold
and copper in the CPU, IOP, and memory cards, which are all
surprisingly heavy from the copper core and shiny from the
characteristic HP gold plating).
The packaging is interesting, especially on the CPU/IOP/memory cards:
the boards don't have sockets for the ICs. Instead, there is a cavity
in the non-conductive board material, exposing the copper sheet at the
core of the board. The IC substrate is bound to this copper core, and
its bond-out wires are soldered to the traces on the board. Then a
lid is fitted over the cavity(ies) to protect the ICs and bond-out
wires. This was done to carry heat away from the ICs, which ran from
a 16MHz clock and did a pretty good job of turning electricity into
heat.
It was also HP's first entry into the Unix market. The 520 could also
be a BASIC workstation (a high-powered multiprocessor replacement for
the 9845!) but I have not seen any configured that way.
It was also HP's last big stack machine, or at least the last one
that made it to market. (Maybe Lee Courtney can tell us more about
Vision.)
HP contracted with The Wollongong Group to provide TCP/IP transport
and application software for HP-UX v5 on these in the mid-to-late
1980s. I started working at TWG in 1989, by which time engineering
support for the product was over, and soon found that from their point
of view, 9000s and 3000s were all the same and so I got to support
that product as well. That was my first introduction to it.
Then I found the FOCUS machine instruction set manual in TWG's
library. Oh my. It's a 32-bit stack machine, sort of a big 3000.
Oh my.
Then I got to investigating a remsh crash that took me deep into the
kernel. That was how I became a TCP/IP stack internals kind of guy.
My memories are dim and distant (TWG ended support for the 9000/500s
in early 1994 I think, due to no sales and no contract renewals), but
most of the customers I talked to were either US military or
contractors.
Its Unix port has some oddities. It was ported on top of another HP
OS called SUNOS that provided low-level generic services to both BASIC
and HP-UX, and the AT&T filesystem was layered on top of an HP
filesystem structure called Structured Directory Format or SDF. SDF
makes itself visible by the absence of . and .. in directories -- ls
and open() will fake them as needed, but if your code opens the
directory and reads it they aren't there!
I don't think it has the concept of partitioning a disc into multiple
filesystems: one disc volume is one filesystem, no way around it.
Swap space is taken as needed from whatever free space is available on
at least the / volume, maybe others too. Strange but nice in its own
way.
-Frank McConnell
Curt Vendel <curt(a)atari-history.com> wrote:
> Old Odd Machine??? The HP 9000 K520 isn't that terribly old, I
But that's different iron, obviously named by someone with no sense of
what had gone before, or someone who thought that alphabet soup and a
few years would be enough to avoid confusion. The 9000 Series 520 aka
9020 aka 9000 Model 20 was one of the first machines to ship under the
9000 label, a 32-bit (potentially-)multiprocessing stack architecture
>from 1982.
Take a look at <http://www.reanimators.org/hp/> for some pictures of
an Integral (top) and my 9000/520 (bottom). I think you will agree,
it's not what you're thinking of.
-Frank McConnell
Our hospital now considers any computers less than 300 MHz as "old" and
needing to be replaced. Most of our software venders now say that anything
less than that is not acceptable for their applications, most also want 64
Mb of memory.
Our department still uses 486/33's and WordPerfect 5.1 for word processing
and they are very reliable.
mike
mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu
>From: Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com>
>Subject: Re: HP 9000 520
>
> I've been noticing a very disturbing trend...anything that isn't an
>overclocked Intel box is "old" or "legacy".
>
> For those of us who care about the quality of what we put on our
>desktops (and in our computer rooms), this is pretty frightening.
>
> -Dave McGuire
>>Thanks Allison! I got the cover off and found the adjustment side of
the
>>terminal (left side looking at it from the front) and the focus is a
screw
>>that goes into what looks like an HV transformer. I've adjusted it to
be
>>razor sharp, now what do I use to "lock it down" ? What is that stuff
that
>>looks like nail polish called?
>>
>>--Chuck
It might just be nail polish. I often use that as it's handy and
available cheap
at the corner store.
Fashon sense demands I make a point of using leftover last years colors.
;)
Allison
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 03:28:22 -0700 Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com>
writes:
> >I can just imagine the Pro-M$ History aka... propoganda!!!
>
> Yeah I can just see the entry lobby with a copy of PC DOS 1.0 next
> to the original source.
You forgot to add that the accompanying blurb would explain how
Bill G. wrote it (single-handedly) over a 72 hour period after
IBM requested he write them an OS. :^/
________________________________________________________________
GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO!
Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less!
Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit:
http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
I was in a local electronic surplus store today and bought some old
laptops at what I consider a good price. 2 Grid 1520s, a Grid 1755,
a Commodore C386SX, a DEC PCP11, and an External SCSI HD for $75
All lacking power supplies tho. I had power packs for the 1520s and
they're both working but one has the same problem that Mike Ford has
with his Grids- password protected. It's now sitting unassembled on my
work table while I search for the battery to see if shorting or removing that
will get rid of the P-W. While I have programs to zap the Award and AMI
BIOS' ,unfortunately this is a Phoenix.
The Grids all have a socket also for a 16v transformer and it appears to
be the same as the DECs 15v so I am looking for either a Grid or DEC
transformer. The Commodore has an 8pin mini socket for power and a
16v battery.
In examining the 1755 and DEC closer I see that they are identical except
for color. Who would have made these for Grid and DEC ? Kyocera ?
larry
Reply to:
lgwalker(a)look.ca
You know, I've signed-up for that a few times and *never* received my
handbook. I get the advertising, but no book. If anyone actually does get a
handbook, I'd like to know...
Rich
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Ford [mailto:mikeford@socal.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 4:36 AM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Free PC handbook
I got this in the mail today, and I am just passing it on. I don't know
what happens when the registration gets filled out without a VIP code, but
its a nice free book if it works.
http://www.advantechdirect.com
My VIP code is NCE011IAG20011B42584 which looks like it is just my code,
but if it is its not smart enough to already know who I was. I suggest not
filling out the reg unless you have an interest in the products, industrial
computers, rack mount, etc. If you are a legitamite user/buyer of this kind
of stuff I can't see them griping about the offer being passed around.
The free book is the neat PC Handbook, with all the facts on PC parts etc.
In a message dated 4/5/01 8:36:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
jpero(a)sympatico.ca writes:
> any
> suggestions for inexpensive s-video cables?
This is a funny thread. Going around in a circle
I have been using cheap ADB cables for S-video cables in my video work. I
have found all the ADB cables I need for $1 each at the Eugene, Oregon
Goodwill store.
Paxton
Portland, OR
Hi Curt Vendel, you wrote on 4/6/01 8:32:07 PM:
A HP 9000 Model 520 would be roughly 15 years old.
I administered a couple about 10 years ago. ran
HPUX 5.x. Great systems, reliable.
A newer Model 800 series K5xx would be cool to have as well.
So, the question is, exactly which model is it?
kelly
>Joe,
>
> Old Odd Machine??? The HP 9000 K520 isn't that terribly old, I
>installed
>one of those with HPUX 11.3 at GT Interactive in Manhattan back in 95' A
>damn good and powerful machine.
>
>
>Curt
>
>
>
>Joe wrote:
>
> FWIW there were two of these for sale at the auction at the Goddard
>Space
> Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama this past week. A guy that I know
>went
> to the auction and I asked him to try and pick them up for me but I don't
> know if he did or not. He should be back in a day or two and then I'll
> know. The point is there's still lots of these old odd machines around if
> someone is willing to search for them.
>
> Joe
Well here it is......
I hooked the Vax up to my IBM Model 80 with Tera Term. Anybody have any
other favorite terminal programs?
What should I be able to see from the below info?
>>>show mem
Memory 0: 00000000 to 003FFFFF, 4MB, 0 bad pages
Memory 1: 00400000 to 00BFFFFF, 8MB, 0 bad pages
Memory 2: 00C00000 to 01BFFFFF, 16MB, 0 bad pages
Memory 3: 01C00000 to 02BFFFFF, 16MB, 0 bad pages
Total of 44MB, 0 bad pages, 118 reserved pages
>>>show dev
DSSI Node 0 (TSD4A)
-DIA0 (RF71)
DSSI Node 1 (R5ARYC)
-DIA23 (RF35)
DSSI Node 2 (R5DKVC)
-DIA20 (RF35)
DSSI Node 7 (*)
UQSSP Tape Controller 0 (774500)
-MUA0 (TK70)
Ethernet Adapter
-ESA0 (08-00-2B-12-41-19)
>>>show qbus
Scan of Qbus I/O Space
-20000120 (760440) = 0080 (300) DHQ11/DHV11/CXA16/CXB16/CXY08
-20000122 (760442) = F081
-20000124 (760444) = DD18
-20000126 (760446) = 0140
-20000128 (760450) = 0000
-2000012A (760452) = 0000
-2000012C (760454) = 8000
-2000012E (760456) = 0000
-20001940 (774500) = 0000 (260) TQK50/TQK70/TU81E/RV20/KFQSA-TAPE
-20001942 (774502) = 0BC0
-20001F40 (777500) = 0020 (004) IPCR
Scan of Qbus Memory Space
>>>help
Following is a brief summary of all the commands supported by the
console:
UPPERCASE denotes a keyword that you must type in
| denotes an OR condition
[] denotes optional parameters
<> denotes a field that must be filled in
with a syntactically correct value
Valid qualifiers:
/B /W /L /Q /INSTRUCTION
/G /I /V /P /M
/STEP: /N: /NOT
/WRONG /U
Valid commands:
DEPOSIT [<qualifiers>] <address> [<datum> [<datum>]]
EXAMINE [<qualifiers>] [<address>]
MOVE [<qualifiers>] <address> <address>
SEARCH [<qualifiers>] <address> <pattern> [<mask>]
SET BFLG <boot_flags>
SET BOOT <boot_device>[:]
SET HOST/DUP/DSSI <node_number> [<task>]
SET HOST/DUP/UQSSP </DISK | /TAPE> <controller_number> [<task>]
SET HOST/DUP/UQSSP <physical_CSR_address> [<task>]
SET HOST/MAINTENANCE/UQSSP/SERVICE <controller_number>
SET HOST/MAINTENANCE/UQSSP <physical_CSR_address>
SET LANGUAGE <language_number>
SHOW BFLG
SHOW BOOT
SHOW DEVICE
SHOW DSSI
SHOW ETHERNET
SHOW LANGUAGE
SHOW MEMORY [/FULL]
SHOW QBUS
SHOW RLV12
SHOW UQSSP
SHOW VERSION
HALT
INITIALIZE
UNJAM
CONTINUE
START <address>
REPEAT <command>
X <address> <count>
FIND [/MEMORY | /RPB]
TEST [<test_code> [<parameters>]]
BOOT [/R5:<boot_flags> | /<boot_flags>] [<boot_device>[:]]
NEXT [count]
CONFIGURE
HELP
>>>boot
No default boot device has been specified.
Available devices.
-DIA0 (RF71)
-DIA23 (RF35)
-DIA20 (RF35)
-MUA0 (TK70)
-ESA0 (08-00-2B-12-41-19)
Device? [ESA0]: dia0
(BOOT/R5:0 DIA0)
2..
-TSD4A$DIA0
1..0..
%SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT Mapping the SYSDUMP.DMP on the System Disk
%SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT SYSDUMP.DMP on System Disk successfully mapped
OpenVMS (TM) VAX Version V6.2 Major version id = 1 Minor version
id = 0
%DECnet-I-LOADED, network base image loaded, version = 05.08.00
PLEASE ENTER DATE AND TIME (DD-MMM-YYYY HH:MM)
PLEASE ENTER DATE AND TIME (DD-MMM-YYYY HH:MM) 04-APR-2001
%SYSINIT, primary PAGEFILE.SYS not found; system initialization
continuing
$! Copyright (c) 1995 Digital Equipment Corporation. All rights
reserved.
%STDRV-I-STARTUP, OpenVMS startup begun at 4-APR-2001 00:02:05.12
%DCL-W-UNDSYM, undefined symbol - check validity and spelling
\B$\
>>> Starting TCPIP ... <<<
%MOUNT-I-MOUNTED, USER mounted on _$1$DIA20: (R5DKVC)
%MOUNT-I-REBUILD, volume was improperly dismounted; rebuild in progress
%MOUNT-I-MOUNTED, USER2 mounted on _$1$DIA23: (R5ARYC)
%MOUNT-I-REBUILD, volume was improperly dismounted; rebuild in progress
%DCL-S-SPAWNED, process SYSTEM_1 spawned
%SET-I-NEWAUDSRV, identification of new audit server process is 0000010A
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:24.51 %%%%%%%%%%%
Operator _ALERTN$OPA0: has been enabled, username SYSTEM
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:25.13 %%%%%%%%%%%
Operator status for operator _ALERTN$OPA0:
CENTRAL, PRINTER, TAPES, DISKS, DEVICES, CARDS, NETWORK, CLUSTER,
SECURITY,
LICENSE, OPER1, OPER2, OPER3, OPER4, OPER5, OPER6, OPER7, OPER8, OPER9,
OPER10,
OPER11, OPER12
%LICENSE-W-TERM, UNICM 99302-323 License has terminated
%SYSTEM-W-PROXYCONVERT, old-format proxy database needs to be converted
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:38.55 %%%%%%%%%%%
Failed logfile operation on file _ALERTN$OPA0:
SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]OPERATOR.LOG;
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:39.15 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:39.16 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
%LICENSE-E-TERM, UNICM 99302-323 License has terminated
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:39.16 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
%QMAN-W-CRITCLSPACE, free more space on _$1$DIA0 - allocated only 20% of
520 blo
cks needed for full journal file
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:39.17 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:40.21 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
%QMAN-E-OPENERR, error opening
$1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]SYS$QUEUE_MANAGE
R.QMAN$JOURNAL;1
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:40.21 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
-RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocation)
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:40.22 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
-SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:40.50 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
%QMAN-E-NODISKSPACE, disk space not available for queue manager to
continue
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:40.51 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
-QMAN-I-FREEDISK, free up 1044 blocks on disk _$1$DIA0
Copyright (c) Digital Equipment Corporation 1993, 1994. All rights
reserved.
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:42.69 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
%SECSRV-E-NOPROXYDB, cannot find proxy database file NET$PROXY.DAT
%RMS-E-FNF, file not found
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:42.87 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
%SECSRV-E-NOPROXYDB, cannot find proxy database file NET$PROXY.DAT
%RMS-E-FNF, file not found
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:42.94 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
%SECSRV-I-SERVERSTARTINGU, security server starting up
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:43.81 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
%SECSRV-I-CIASTARTINGUP, breakin detection and evasion processing now
starting u
p
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:44.43 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:46.76 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:48.98 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%SHOW-F-WRITEERR, error writing
SYS$SYSROOT:[SYS$STARTUP]NET$STARTUP_CHECKPRIVS.
DAT;4
-RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocation)
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:53.80 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:56.42 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:03:58.97 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:01.75 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
>>> Executing SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM for VMS 6.2 startup procedure <<<
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:04.08 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) and security audit (SECURITY) on ALERTN,
system id: 62
474
Auditable event: Audit server starting up
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:02.41
PID: 00000103
Username: SYSTEM
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:04.46 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file removal
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:03.73
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]ANALIMDMP.EXE;1
INSTALL flags: /PRIVILEGED
Privileges: CMKRNL,CMEXEC
%MOUNT-F-VOLALRMNT, another volume of same label already mounted
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:06.23 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%MOUNT-F-VOLALRMNT, another volume of same label already mounted
%SYSGEN-W-OPENIN, error opening $1$DIA20:[000000]PAGEFILE2.SYS; as input
-RMS-E-FNF, file not found
>>> Disk Startup Complete <<<
>>> Disk startup procedure completed <<<
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:09.01 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
Copyright (c) 1995 Digital Equipment Corporation. All rights reserved.
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:12.38 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%AMDS-I-RMSTART, starting Data Provider processing for this node
%AMDS-I-LOADSECDB, loading security database
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:14.57 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%AMDS-S-RMSUCCESS, Data Provider startup successful
>>> Terminals Startup Complete <<<
>>> Terminals startup procedure completed <<<
>>> Accounting disable procedure completed <<<
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:17.13 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:19.09 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:19.05
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file:
$1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]UCX$ACCESS_SHR.EXE;3
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/SHARED
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:19.78 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:20.07 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:20.04
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSMSG]UCX$MSG.EXE;3
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/SHARED
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:20.96 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:20.92
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file:
$1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]UCX$IPC_SHR.EXE;2
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/SHARED
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:21.94 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:21.90
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file:
$1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]UCX$RPCXDR_SHR.EXE;3
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/SHARED
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:22.30 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:22.90 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:22.86
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file:
$1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]UCX$CFS_SHR.EXE;3
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/SHARED/PROTECTED
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:23.93 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:23.89
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]UCX$UCP.EXE;3
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/HEADER_RESIDENT/SHARED
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:24.87 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:28.27 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:31.01 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:33.59 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:33.55
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file:
$1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]UCX$BIND_SERVER.EXE;3
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/HEADER_RESIDENT/SHARED/PRIVILEGED
Privileges: OPER
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:34.05 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:34.58 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:34.54
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file:
$1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]UCX$BIND_SERVER_XFER.EX
E;2
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/HEADER_RESIDENT/SHARED/PRIVILEGED
Privileges: OPER
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:36.34 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:36.30
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]UCX$FTPC.EXE;3
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/HEADER_RESIDENT/SHARED/PRIVILEGED
Privileges: PSWAPM,OPER
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:36.54 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - ERROR ACCESSING ERROR LOG FILE
%RMS-F-FUL, device full (insufficient space for allocati
%SYSTEM-W-DEVICEFULL, device full; allocation failure
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:36.60 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on ALERTN
ERRFMT - DELETING ERRFMT PROCESS
ERROR LOG FILE UNWRITABLE
TO RESTART ERRFMT PROCESS, USE "@SYS$SYSTEM:STARTUP ERRFMT"
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:37.73 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:37.69
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]UCX$FTPD.EXE;3
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/HEADER_RESIDENT/SHARED/PRIVILEGED
Privileges: SYSNAM,DETACH,WORLD,BYPASS
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:39.47 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:39.44
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]UCX$FTP.EXE;3
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/HEADER_RESIDENT/SHARED/PRIVILEGED
Privileges: PSWAPM,OPER
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:41.00 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:40.97
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file:
$1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]UCX$LPD_SHR.EXE;3
INSTALL flags: /OPEN/SHARED
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:04:41.68 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on ALERTN
Security alarm (SECURITY) on ALERTN, system id: 62474
Auditable event: Installed file addition
Event time: 4-APR-2001 00:04:41.65
PID: 00000103
Process name: STARTUP
Username: SYSTEM
Process owner: [SYSTEM]
Image name: $1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]INSTALL.EXE
Installed file:
$1$DIA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSEXE]UCX$LPD_RCV.EXE;3
INSTALL flags: /PRIVILEGED
Privileges: BYPASS
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:05:40.50 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
%QMAN-E-NODISKSPACE, disk space not available for queue manager to
continue
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:05:40.52 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
-QMAN-I-FREEDISK, free up 1044 blocks on disk _$1$DIA0
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:07:40.50 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
%QMAN-E-NODISKSPACE, disk space not available for queue manager to
continue
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:07:40.52 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
-QMAN-I-FREEDISK, free up 1044 blocks on disk _$1$DIA0
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:09:40.51 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
%QMAN-E-NODISKSPACE, disk space not available for queue manager to
continue
%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 4-APR-2001 00:09:40.52 %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user QUEUE_MANAGE on ALERTN
-QMAN-I-FREEDISK, free up 1044 blocks on disk _$1$DIA0
?02 EXT HLT
PC = 82221B4D
>>>show boot
DIA0
>>>
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
Does anyone know what a Kinetic Systems Corp model D1391 dual wide Q-bus
board is?
It has two 40 pin connectors, they look kind of like the M3107 (8 port
async) but they connect to resistor packs so I'm thinking either a parallel
port or bus extender. There are several DS8833 chips (Nat'l Semi) and what
looks like a CSR switch pack. An M7951 clone perhaps?
--Chuck
In a message dated 4/6/01 5:11:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
ecloud(a)bigfoot.com writes:
> Yep that monitor looks a lot like one I have... but mine has a logo
> that says "LexiData", I think. It has 10 BNC connectors (separate
> sync, and a set of pass-through connectors I guess).
>
LexiDatas are more of a RGB separate sync monitor. Very similar chassis.
I bought and sold one of the Sun 1s in 1988. Got it surplus from a local
computer dealer, I think it was a lease return, and sold it for $500 to the
computer department of Stanford University. They were still using some of
them.
Thanks for the pictures. It brought back memories.
Paxton
Portland, Oregon
Hello all, I've got a VT340 that is very fuzzy. (blurry) I'd like to try
and refocus it but I don't have the maintenance manual for this terminal.
Does anyone have any suggestions on where to start (well I'm going to start
by seeing if the yoke has slipped backward on the tube neck, but other than
that)
--Chuck
Umm, this story is also something around 20 or more years old, too, based in
my recollection in the universal jfvts (Jennings Family Vehicle Time Scale).
We had our Volkswagon Quantum then, meaning I was at most 14 or so, and the
story was old already, I think I happened in the mid-80's...
Will J
_________________________________________________________________
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
On Apr 6, 12:53, Mike Ford wrote:
> >> Are you thinking of the Pertec magnetic tape interface? I
> >> have a Cifer front-loading half-inch magtape drive that
> >> (I'm told) has the Pertec interface. It has two large
> >> 50-way ribbon cables coming out of the back.
>
> One of the people on another list was asking about a "early SCSI" cable
> that used 2 x 50pin ribbon cables on a hard drive. Was there such a SCSI,
> or is it likely he has a pertec drive?
Much more likely Pertec than SCSI. Original SCSI, and SASI before it, are
50-wire interfaces. However, if he means that an external box had 2 x
50-pin connectors, it could be SCSI; they usually have two sockets so you
can daisy-chain them, or plug in a terminator on the last box.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
In a message dated 4/6/01 10:20:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
John.Honniball(a)uwe.ac.uk writes:
> Was there ever a PC
> ISA-bus card for this?
Yes, there was but I don't remember who made it. I had a customer who bought
tape drives from me. He brought over a PC (probably a 286) with an ISA card
Pertec interface. We tested drives with it till he found the ones he liked.
Worked well.
Paxton
Portland, OR
Ok, the reservation list now consists of:
Dave McGuire
Alex Knight
Pete Turnbull
Ethan Dicks
Mike Haas
Robert Cobbins
Tony Eros
Mike Cheponis
Chandra Baipai
Richard Cini
I now have about 50 parts spoken for, which leaves about 7. A
couple people have asked for 10 chips, and if there's still demand after
I run out I might ask them if they'd be satisfied with fewer so more
people can get some.
I sorted all the parts and it turns out that five of them are 1802CE
and the rest are BCE. Does anybody know the difference? My databook
doesn't cover the BCE. Some people have asked for some CE and some BCE
parts and it would be nice to know how to divide them up fairly (and
whether or not I would want to keep any of the CEs for myself :)
I probably won't get around to dividing them up and packaging them
till some time early next week. At that point, I'll get back in touch
with everybody on the list to confirm and work out the shipping and
payment details.
JCE
--
Joel Ewy
spamthis_ewy(a)southwind.net
http://www2.southwind.net/~ewy
In fooling with my Mac PM7100av and AudioVision monitor I noticed that
the Apple ADB connector and the standard s-video connector are the same.
Any data on this ? And does it mean that a cheap s-video cable could be
used in place of relatively expensive(Apple like IBM ain't cheap) ADB cables ?
larry
Reply to:
lgwalker(a)look.ca
Here's the list of people who've contacted me so far requesting
CDP-1802s from my stash (in order received):
Dave McGuire
Alex Knight
Pete Turnbull
Ethan Dicks
Mike Haas
for a total of 24 parts. I hope I haven't missed anybody.
I think I'll keep about 5 of the original 62. So there would be
about 33 still unspoken for.
I couldn't stand it anymore yesterday afternoon, and went to my
folks' place to dig them out and ended up hauling home a ton of old
computer junk that I already don't have room for in my basement. But my
dad, being as much of a pack rat as I am, was glad to have more space
for his antique engines.
It turns out that I didn't "RC", and they're in the plastic package
instead of ceramic. Most of them are CDP-1802BCE, but some are
CDP-1802CE. I'm sure there's some joke in there about how old these
things are, but I'll leave the actual punch line as an exercise for the
reader. I rediscovered an RCA databook that I found some time after the
original haul, and have almost forgotten about already, that has info on
the whole CDP-18XX range, plus some development systems, including the
COSMAC Microboard Computer Systems. I haven't looked too closely, but
>from a cursory glance, it would appear that it has complete schematics
for all kinds of boards for this system, from the CPU board to RAM, ROM,
battery-backed RAM, UART, display, D/A, and so on. It truly inspires
awe.
Anyway, the CDP-1802CE is listed, but the BCE isn't. The 1802CE is
for temperatures ranging from -40 - +85 deg. C. The 'C' suffix (infix?)
has a "recommended voltage range" of 4-6.5 volts. The 1802 ranges from
4-10.5 volts. The 'E' suffix specifies the plastic case, while 'D'
would be ceramic. But I can't tell from the documentation I have what
the 'B' infix would do to it. Tonight I'll sort them into BCE and CE
and post exactly how many of each I have.
--
Joel Ewy
butcherspam_ewy(a)southwind.net
http://www2.southwind.net/~ewy
So you actually have a distribution of RT V02? I'd like to get a
copy from you for my archives.
Anyway, maybe what we need is a copy of the boot blocks for various
devices so that they can simply be layed down in the disk image
(using a very simple program) on block 0.
Actually, I think it might be a little difficult with a version
of RT that old, simply because the split between the monitor and
the device drivers had not yet been made, so you had to build a
monitor which included the devices you wanted it to have, and built
to boot using a specific handler. This was back in the days of
DXMNFB
and RKMNFB
which were the monitors for RT-11 FB on an RX01 and RT-11 FB on
an RK05, respectively.
Megan
ok, slightly OT. Transferring the os was a snap since the emulator
will read my 11/83's RX33s directly. But since RT11v02 does not
recognize the rx33 I could only transfer the files and have not
been able to bootstrap the emulated rk05.
putr.com's boot command seems to work only with post-version2 os's,
and the e11 docs don't seem to cover this. Perhaps e11 wont do ver 2?
I suppose I could try to locate a 8" drive to strap onto the pc (to
boot one of my rx01s)
This is my first try with e11 so don't know all the ins-outs yet.
Anyone tried rt-v02 on this emulator? Any hints would be appreciated
thanks..... nick
On Wed, 04 Apr 2001 07:55:00 -0700 Bruce Lane
<kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com> writes:
> Joe, and other Teledisk group buy participants,
>
> I've got some bad news. It appears that, within the last
> year or two, Sydex has completely sold off the rights to Teledisk, and
the
> product itself, to a company called Forensics International. FI's web
page
> clearly states that they will sell only to law enforcement agencies and
> Fortune-1000 companies that can show a need for the software.
Nazi facist bastards! I'll bet there's a *conspiracy* at work here!
(Where's Fox Mulder when you need him?)
These assholes even claim that:
"TeleDisk was developed to assist the U. S. Treasury Department
in the processing of computer evidence tied to floppy diskettes."
Does anybody know if this is *true*?! I always thought it was
developed to distribute software via BBS's (and other electonic
means).
Rrrrrrrr. Now I'm pissed.
Jeff
________________________________________________________________
GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO!
Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less!
Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit:
http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
On Apr 4, 15:39, Will Jennings wrote:
> Errm, since I'm assuming you're talking guns here, I'd imagine the vacuum
> stands a good chance of not being operable afterwards, too!
Apparently it was OK. Actually, they were CCI small pistol primers which
are a little more sensitive than Winchester ones, but I used a little
poetic license because I thought more people would realise what I meant.
>From what my friend Mick tells me, some of them went off as they hit the
metal innards of the vacuum (rather than the brushes). I believe it was a
pretty noisy operation, though!
Richard mentioned that Winchester primers come in a flat plastic block; CCI
ones come in a small subdivided tray, about half the size of the Winchester
one. They're not individually compartmentalised like the Winchester ones
and tend to fall out rather easily. Mick had already dropped most of them
on the floor once, and picked them all up by hand. When he did it a second
time he just decided that the vacuum cleaner provided an easier solution.
For those who've not seen them, a tray of primers is about 2" square, and
holds 100 small round objects, 0.17" in diameter.
> Reminds me of my
> mom's friend's mother, who quit vacuuming forever after she mistakenly
> vacuumed up a bullet.. scratch one vacuum cleaner!
Ow! I'm surprised the round went off, though.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
Reply to the orignal sender, not me.
That said, I could use a couple Mac monitor cables if anybody gets these.
Tom
---------------- Begin Forwarded Message ----------------
Subject: Old Apple CPU's
Date Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2001 10:01 AM
From: Christman, Karla <KChristman(a)Brazosport.isd.tenet.edu>
To: 'owad(a)applefritter.com' <owad(a)applefritter.com>
Do you know anyone in the Houston, Texas area that might be interested in
old Apple computers, monitors, parts and cables.
Karla Christman
Coordinator of Media Services
Brazosport Independent School District
Voice (979) 265-6181 x 232 and 266-2451
Pager (979) 235-4675
----------------- End Forwarded Message -----------------
Applefritter
www.applefritter.com
It is for a Gas or liquid Chromatrograph. It communicates to the GC via
HPIL. ( Serial 2 wire loop)
Most have been replaced with PC based data systems.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey S. Sharp <jss(a)ou.edu>
To: ClassicCmp Mailing List <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 9:19 PM
Subject: HP 3388 Integrator?
>Yesterday, while prowling through the University of Oklahoma surplus shop,
>I found a HP 3388 Integrator. It looked vaguely computerish, with ports
>for a terminal and tape, and a power switch with a label like "memory
>contents zeroed when set to off". The only relevant thing returned by a
>quick Google search for "hp 3388 integrator" is this page:
>
>http://www.alphaomegatech.com/datahint.htm
>
>Have I found anything interesting (for the $10 it costs)?
>
>--
>Jeffrey S. Sharp
>jss(a)ou.edu
Well, I'm not saying I'm looking for it for a reasearch project, but I'd
definetly love a scanmaster, also need a system/34... system/88 would be
nice, as would an 8130, 3790, or a 7171..
Will J
_________________________________________________________________
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Jeffrey l Kaneko <jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com> wrote:
> "TeleDisk was developed to assist the U. S. Treasury Department
> in the processing of computer evidence tied to floppy diskettes."
>
> Does anybody know if this is *true*?! I always thought it was
> developed to distribute software via BBS's (and other electonic
> means).
ObAOL: Me Too. Seriously, I thought the idea was to be able to copy a
diskette to an image file that could be transferred via other means
and then copied back to a diskette for use at the receiving end. The
image file was mostly opaque to the user(s). I'm not sure how this
helps the Treasury Department, unless they're using it to ship
evidence-diskette images back to an FBI agent in the J. Edgar Hoover
building who knows how to work the FBI's one copy of XenoCopy to go
trawling through the reconstitued diskette for files.
I have dim memories from Lasnerian times of netnews articles posted by
and in response to people trying to exchange RX50 images via Teledisk;
the observation made was that doing this required certain versions of
Teledisk and/or certain types of floppy drives.
And I think that all this angst is amusing in light of today's
"Rhymes With Orange" comic strip.
If you want to see the strip in your gooey webulator, wait two weeks,
it'll be up at <http://www.rhymeswithorange.com/>. Those of us who
get it with our newspaper's comics page can have immediate
gratification.
Oh, all right, I'll spoil it. The punch line is "Except for
computers, which no longer read floppy disks." Perhaps the author is
one of those people who thinks "computer" means "Macintosh, late
model".
-Frank McConnell
I just ran across a reference to synchronized pendula in the latest "Wired"
magazine (March 2001, p. 58). I did a search for the work the article
mentions, which lead to the following site:
http://www.gtalumni.org/news/magazine/spr97/rhythms.html. The following is
>from this site:
"The phenomenon was described in 1665 by the Dutch physicist Christiaan
Huygens, who placed two pendulum clocks side by side on a wall. Within a
short time, the pendulums were swinging in perfect synchrony. He altered the
movement of one pendulum, but within a half hour the swinging weights had
regained synchrony. When one of the clocks was moved to another wall, they
gradually fell out of step."
Robert A. Feldman
Robert_Feldman(a)jdedwards.com
Folks,
A recently acquired ASR33 came with an assorted sets of spares. Part of the
spares were some 196x vintage Control Data disks R/W heads which are of
limited interest to me..
They are available to whoever might need them for the cost of shipping
from Zurich, Europe )
Jos Dreesen
On Apr 5, 5:31, Jeff Hellige wrote:
> >I read "Hacker Crackdown"
> >years ago and can't remember if it describes those particular raids.
>
> I believe it does go into detail on Sundevil. The full book
> is available in AmigaGuide format, though I no longer recall where I
> saw it posted...it's been a couple of years since I saw that version.
It does go into some detail. I bought the book when it came out. The
electronic version can be found at
http://www.eff.org/pub/Misc/Publications/Bruce_Sterling/Hacker_Crackdown/
which also has the extra "Three Years Later" part .
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
Hi. What is the binary format of the floppy disks that the
Xerox DayBreak workstation uses? And, by the way, how about the format
for the tapes (QIC?)?
Cheers,
--
*** Rodrigo Martins de Matos Ventura <yoda(a)isr.ist.utl.pt>
*** Web page: http://www.isr.ist.utl.pt/~yoda
*** Teaching Assistant and PhD Student at ISR:
*** Instituto de Sistemas e Robotica, Polo de Lisboa
*** Instituto Superior Tecnico, Lisboa, PORTUGAL
*** PGP fingerprint = 0119 AD13 9EEE 264A 3F10 31D3 89B3 C6C4 60C6 4585
Robert,
Thanks for your comments but I don't think the problem is the disks.
I've also tried Tektronix 8160 disks, Osborne 1 and Osborne Executive
disks, Morrow disks and some others and I get the same results with all of
them. The only disks that I've ever been able to archive are MS-DOS disks!
Joe
At 09:54 AM 4/4/01 -0600, you wrote:
>I have a copy of Teledisk, but have not used it, so my comments might not be
>on the mark. But, I have used other disk format copy programs and know that
>they have trouble copying Kaypro disks unless the source disk was formated
>on the target (non-Kaypro) computer. Apparently the Kaypro (and also Zorba)
>format had some strange features. Might the unusual formatting be the source
>of Joe's problems?
>
>Robert Feldman
>Robert_Feldman(a)jdedwards.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bruce Lane [mailto:kyrrin@bluefeathertech.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 9:55 AM
>To: Joe
>Cc: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
>Subject: Re: Teledisk not working
>
>
>At 10:10 04-04-2001 -0500, you wrote:
>
>>Bruce,
>>
>> I just tried Teledisk again with the SAME results. This time I used two
>>known good Kaypro 2 disks. Teledisk copied them to files with no
>>complaints. TDChck said that the files were OK. However each file was only
>>281 bytes in size. When I tried to make disks from the files it said that
>>the data had a CRC error.
>
><snip>
>
OK, here's the scoop on the original Scanmaster, not some lame-o PC-attached
crud...
8815 SCANMASTER I - WITHDRAWN
(NO LONGER AVAILABLE)
PURPOSE
o For capturing and transmitting noncoded documents to an 4300, S/370,
303X, or 308X system.
o For capturing and transmitting noncoded documents directly to another
Scanmaster I.
o For printing noncoded documents.
o For printing formatted text documents.
The Scanmaster I is an SNA/SDLC device designed for system-attached
operation and terminal-to-terminal operation. It attaches to 4300, S/370,
303X, and 308X processors over switched or nonswitched communication
facilities at speeds up to 9600 bps. It will communicate directly with
another remote Scanmaster I over a public switched telephone network or
private switched or non-switched voice facilities at speeds up to 9600 bps.
I got that from the IBM sales manual... I'd love to have one too..
Will J
_________________________________________________________________
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
I am looking for some ideas for putting one of my DEC machines on the
net. I used to run a Unix bbs years ago on a 386 running Xenix and XBBS
and really enjoyed it a lot. I noticed that the source is still around
for that program on the net.
This is what I have:
11/23+ running RT-11. I have the TCP-IP package for it and I beleive I
have everything I need to make it work.
11/53 running RSX but I can probably coax BSD on it without a problem.
VAXstation II running VAX/VMS 4.4 but I also have netBSD for it. I know
nothing about VMS.
I want to make these machines available but at the same time I want to
batten down the hatches so they are not wide open for troublemakers. I
personally would like to put the 11/23+ on the net. If I could make that
work, then it would be easy to duplicate it on my 11/34 and put that on
the net.
These would be running behind my IP masq'ed Linux router. I could port
forward Telnet and FTP services. Maybe even HTTP if I could get that
working on the RT-11 box. Right now thats going to my current web
server.
Any ideas?
Brian.
At 10:10 04-04-2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Bruce,
>
> I just tried Teledisk again with the SAME results. This time I used two
>known good Kaypro 2 disks. Teledisk copied them to files with no
>complaints. TDChck said that the files were OK. However each file was only
<snip>
OK! Great news waiting in my inbox when I came home.
First: Joe, I've forwarded the description you E-mailed me to both Sydex
and Forensics Intl.
And that leads into the second part: F-I is perfectly willing to pick up
support for those involved in the group buy. The fact that we were legacy
customers of Sydex is what did it.
So, everyone who bought Teledisk can start breathing again. We're still
supported. Joe, I'll forward whatever answer I get back to you. It is also
possible that F-I support may open a dialogue directly with you. I did
offer them that option, and I gave them your E-address.
Thanks much.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies
http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K)
"I'll get a life when someone demonstrates to me that it would be
superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma).
On Apr 4, 13:22, Iggy Drougge wrote:
> Chuck McManis skrev:
>
> >At 06:36 PM 4/3/2001 -0500, The Chad wrote:
> >>Kidding.... Actually I just took the plastic case from my 3400 up the
> >>do-it-yourself car wash. I used the engine/tire cleaner on it, and
then
> >>Comet Cleanser. It turned out nicely..... it is drying now.
>
> >That's a great idea. I have done the boards in the dish washer trick
(they
> >come out nice and clean, but sometimes lose their labels)
> Wouldn't they melt or get disformed in the dishwasher?
Fibreglass doesn't melt easily :-)
I've put quite a few PCBs through our dishwasher (well it's "ours" when I
want to clean PCBs, and my wife's when it's dinner plates). It's amazing
how many useful pieces of equipment are disguised as domestic appliances:
the machine for cleaning keyboard keycaps and shell cases does an
excellent job of washing clothes, while the tumbling machine for drying
them off also works for socks and shirts. The device in the kitchen for
baking small spray-painted articles can be used for pizza and muffins. And
so on...
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
Due to my computing interests becoming very much centered in the IBM
world, and also due to 2 tons of Big Blue stuff coming shortly, I have
decided to sell off a PDP-8/i. I promised the original seller that I
would not Ebay the thing, so I am keeping it to only a few lists.
The machine looks like an 8K PDP-8/i, with a highspeed paper tape
reader/puch (PCmumblefoo). It looks complete, although I have not checked
it 100 percent. Certainly the hard-to-find parts are there (namely the
panel and the two core stacks). The rack is not original, and frankly, is
ugly. The power supply seems very kludged in (although it looks DEC).
This ain't a plug and play 'puter, folks. It needs a cleanup and a tune
up. I have a doc set (not included, but I can copy (have to copy
one for Will, anyway).
Send me an offer if interested. I am located in New York, near
Connecticut. No shipping on this item - either you pick up, or I
deliver within a few hundred miles (Boston, Washington, maybe Cleveland
or even Chicago) for my expenses.
Some pictures:
http://www.bestweb.net/~toober/images/PDP8I.jpghttp://www.bestweb.net/~toober/images/PDP8I.upper.jpghttp://www.bestweb.net/~toober/images/PDP8I.inside.jpghttp://www.bestweb.net/~toober/images/PDP8I.fc.jpg
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org