- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Surviving customs My experience when shipping through customs you must make sure that you don't say it's "worthless", they think you are lying. I have tried saying "used medical equipment" but they translated that to "medical waste". I ended up with "sterile out of date medical equipment that is composed of stainless steel and plastic". Actually supplying the least amount of information is probably smartest. Try to avoid mention of the "radioactive" or in our case "non-radioactive" word. I suspect that any mention of any form of the "drug" word would also be a stupid. Mentioning that it will be used for educational purposes may have helped. They asked for an itemized list with values of each item. I had included several thousand catheters, needles and injectors and estimated the value of each item as $1 and ended up with the question then "Why aren't you insuring this shipment?" My frustration level was high but the third time for the shipment it made it through. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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Latest Acquisition: Imlac PDS-1D

by vcf＠siconic.com

Here is my latest major acquisition as of the Sunday before last: http://www.siconic.com/computers/Imlac This is an Imlac PDS-1D, a later model of the Imlac PDS-1 circa 1972. It's a 16-bit graphical workstation (pre-Alto!) I'm not sure how much memory this has but it contains two coreplanes, so I'm figuring either 8K or 16K. Unfortunately, it's been stored outside for about 7 years and has suffered some minor corrosion on the PCB solder traces and some light rusting on the ICs. I spent a few days cleaning it up and it looks like it's going to make it. This was a relatively easy retrieval. I started out from the San Francisco bay area about 6am Saturday morning, making it to Long Beach (southern California, LA area) by about 2:30pm, and got back home by 1am Sunday (taking my time along the way). The actual distance was about 800 miles. I was able to fit the main unit in my trunk and the display in my back seat. It normally would have come in a desk configuration, but since it was stored outside, the formica and pressboard table top was warped and unsalvageable, so I left it behind. I did get the legs, so I'll be able to easily reconstruct the tabletop. The cabinet of the computer was rusted around the outside. Not horribly but it will need to be refinished. The inside of the card cage was spared >from any dirt and debris since it was closed pretty tightly. Some corrosion on the logic modules from moisture was still evident. On the other side of the rack, there were leaves stuffed up inside the core memory board section. I imagine some varmint made his nest there for a while. I managed to clean up the core memory boards and the power supply section so far. The core itself was fine, having been protected by a PCB board cover. The leads on the ICs are a bit rusted, but I imagine they will still be OK with some clean up. The solder traces showed some corrosion (oxidation?) from moisture but seem to be OK after having traced out a few with a meter. The CRT is obviously going to need replacing. It looks like I may be able to just remove the front glass panel and then chip off the intermediate glass (plastic?) layer that is all cracked to reveal a clean tube on the inside, but I don't know if this is just an optical illusion (and I don't know if this would be safe :) The tube has a Fairchild sticker on it. Apparently Fairchild made CRTs in the late 60s, early 70s. I wonder if I can just find a replacement? The nice thing about this one is that it came with the programmer's console. And if you'll look at the picture showing the front card cage with the logic modules, the long board in the lower right is a "Long Vector Option", hand-wired by the guy I got it from. It's basically a co-processor board for drawing the vectors on the display. It allowed the system to handle more vectors than the basic configuration. Apparently, if you had too much happening on the display the system would bog down considerably or crash. For comparison to the PDS-1, look here: http://www.blinkenlights.com/classiccmp/imlac/ (This happens to be Doug Salot's excellent web page on the PDS-1, which I now have in my collection...thanks, Doug! :) The display for the PDS-1D is very different from the PDS-1. It's much larger and has a detached keyboard. The computer itself is also very different. The card rack uses different connectors, and the memory is on the other side of the rack instead of plugged into the card cage along with the rest of the logic modules, as with the PDS-1. >From talking to the previous owner, I'd hoped I would be able to just bring it home and fire it up after some TLC with a Variac, but that ain't gonna happen. He never told me he'd stored it outside. Duh. But I think with a bit of work it can be made to function in time for VCF 5.0, in which I hope to include it in an exhibit of early networked video games. One cool aspect of this machine is that it has a diode ROM board that instructs the machine to boot off the serial port. The previous owner wrote some code for his Cromemco that would upload operating software into the Imlac. He also wrote an assembler on the Cromemco so that he could assemble programs and then upload them to the Imlac. Pretty cool. This will be my main restoration project for the time being. My first questions are: 1) What effect does moisture have on solder traces after such long exposure to the elements? Do I need to be worried about cold solder joints and things like that? The last time this thing was fired up was 6-7 years ago, according to the previous owner. 2) What is the chance that the power supply caps and transformers are bad, again, being that it was exposed to the elements for so long? How can I test the caps? I have schematics, so I imagine I could test the transformers knowing the voltages. 3) How can I easily remove the rust from the leads of the ICs? Thanks! Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

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Technico (Re: TI Minicomputer?)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: James B. DiGriz <jbdigriz(a)dragonsweb.org> > >Wish now I had spent a lot more on actual hardware, though. I envy >your collection. I had an advantage, working for NEC micromputers from 79-84, as a product engineer I was able read up on and sometimes required to use/experiment with many CPUs so I could compare them. Allison

25 years, 2 months

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SMS 1000 up for grabs in UK

by kevan＠heydon.org

I have an SMS 1000 (A PDP 11/73) that I no longer want. It is populated with a M8192-YB (11/73 cpu) card and a MSV11-R memory card made by General Robotics Corp. There is an internal harddisk and both a 5 1/4" and 8" floppy drives. It runs RT-11 and has a set of RT-11 manuals including: 1A, 2, 2A, 2B, 2C, 3A, 3B, PDP11 FORTRAN 77 & RT-11 Mini Ref. Manual. It really has to go so I will split up if someone wants only parts from it. The manuals will end up in the paper recycling bins at work if nobody wants them. -- Kevan Collector of old computers: http://www.heydon.org/kevan/collection/

25 years, 2 months

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My Collection

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 13, Jerome Fine wrote: > Does anyone on the list run RT-11 still other than Megan Gentry? > Do you tinker with the operating system code at all? Does anyone > care about the RT-11 Operating System? I care about it; I like it quite a bit. I have a Micro 11/73 running v5.4, and a Kevex X-ray analyzer (an accessory to the electron microscope) that has a pdp11/73 in it that runs RT-11. -Dave McGuire

25 years, 2 months

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Commodore Colt (was Re: My Collection)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> > > As far as I know, the 8bit IDE drives maxed out at 40meg, Mostly due to the 8bit market for them shrinking. My solution is a acculogic 8bit to standard ISA adaptor, works great with a Conner 420mb IDE. Allison

25 years, 2 months

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Technico (Re: TI Minicomputer?)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Eric Chomko <chomko(a)greenbelt.com> > >Whoa! The class I took in microcomputers (two actually) was once a week at 7:00pm. I was a regular full-time day student at that time. However, the class was >populated with many over 30 types and in one class the Prof. was about 60 and the other class the Prof was 28! That would be about right. About the time I'd bought the 9900 I'd be taking a course on data structures in pascal. Allison

25 years, 2 months

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IBM 9370 Mainframe Specs?

by msuttner＠columbus.rr.com

Hello, I worked in Endicott for IBM on the design of what was known internally as the Series-X machine. This later became the S/9370 and AS/400. If you notice in the first announcements that the machines look alike? Both use common building block parts developed for Series-X which was canceled. Both used the same RISC processor. The 9379 has an emulation assist card to help with the S/370 instructions. At any rate I was looking for some information on the processor and IBM had none in their archives. Anyone know where there is information online? I have some marketing materials from when it was released. Mark

25 years, 2 months

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My Collection

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 13, LFessen106(a)aol.com wrote: > So far I've found endless fascination in chips and power transistors. > But, the most unbelievably fascinating thing that I've seen in that > scope was something I thought would be boring...a blown tungsten lamp > filament! I just did some quick scans of some of the > electromicrographs I've done lately. They can be seen at > http://www.neurotica.com/sem/images if you're interested. The blown > tungsten lamp filament pics are filament-1.jpg and filament-2.jpg. > >> > > Dave, > Just out of curiosity, have you found any of that microart burned on I.C.'s yet? Lots of it. Most of it is fairly well-documented though, so I haven't bothered photographing any of it. I've enjoyed hunting around chips to find manufacturers' logos, though. That's always fun. Tooling around with the X and Y stage controls, until a big "W" Westinghouse logo pops up...cool! I'm really hoping to find a dead J11 chipset to decapitate. I have several J11-based boards here but I can't stand the idea of sacrificing one in that manner. If anyone here has a spare J11 chipset or a known-dead board containing one, I'd love to talk deal for it. -Dave McGuire

25 years, 2 months

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My Collection

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

UM, U of M, UMD, it's all alphabet soup to me. I didn't attend the school, so I don't know what the official abbreviation is. :) -Dave McGuire On April 13, Chad Fernandez wrote: > U of M is Michigan :-) I thought Maryland was just UM? > > Chad Fernandez > Michigan, USA > > Dave McGuire wrote: > > > > U of M as in Maryland? I'm in Laurel. :-)

25 years, 2 months

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My Collection

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated Fri, 13 Apr 2001 3:45:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com> writes: << U of M as in Maryland? I'm in Laurel. :-) So far I've found endless fascination in chips and power transistors. But, the most unbelievably fascinating thing that I've seen in that scope was something I thought would be boring...a blown tungsten lamp filament! I just did some quick scans of some of the electromicrographs I've done lately. They can be seen at http://www.neurotica.com/sem/images if you're interested. The blown tungsten lamp filament pics are filament-1.jpg and filament-2.jpg. >> Dave, Just out of curiosity, have you found any of that microart burned on I.C.'s yet? -Linc.

25 years, 2 months

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Hi Folks - home email speaking

by witchy＠vorbis.demon.co.uk

'ello, I'm subbed from home now and for some reason (probably lack of caffeine) made a bit of an arse of rebuilding the email server at work so it won't accept dialup connections. If anyone's replied to my missives since Thursday afternoon (UK time) would they please either repost or mail direct to me? cheers! PS coming soon - boxed Camputers Lynx :o) adrian/witchy (Adrian Graham) www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the Online Computer Museum 0:OK, 0:1

25 years, 2 months

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TI DS990 Documentation

by root＠diablonet.net

Just to let everyone know, I've been watching the conversation on the list the past few days regarding the TI 990 series of minicomputer systems, and as a result of what appears to be widespread demand, I've begun scanning a number of documents (datasheets, mostly, but also two bound volumes) regarding the TI 990 systems. These are primarily datasheets that my father recieved around twenty years ago when he was purchasing and using these systems as Chrysler Corporation. I think they've been sitting in the basement ever since. They're in pretty good condition, and they make interesting reading. I've got a small page set up as a jumping-off point for accessing datasheets about various models of equipment available at the following URL: http://www.diablonet.net/museum/ds990.html Please excuse my asthetics; some people say it's slightly hard to read. To jump right into the documentation directories, you can just go here: http://www.diablonet.net/museum/ti990 I hope someone out there finds these useful, or at least marginallly interesting! --Sean Caron (root(a)diablonet.net) | http://www.diablonet.net

25 years, 2 months

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My Collection

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

The microscope has a maximum magnification of about 150,000X. -Dave McGuire On April 13, Robert wrote: > What is the magnification? > > Dave McGuire wrote: > > > On April 13, Peter Joules wrote: > > > > http://www.neurotica.com/sem/images if you're interested. The blown > > > > tungsten lamp filament pics are filament-1.jpg and filament-2.jpg. > > > > > > That's amazing. I take it that the crystals had grown on the filament > > > during the life of the bulb had they? Does anyone know the mechanisn for > > > this? > > > > It is my understanding that those crystals grew during the > > "flameout" of the filament. > > > > I spent a solid six hours one night going over that filament. I > > wish Polaroid 550PN film wasn't so damn expensive. I need to build a > > digital imager for my microscope. > > > > -Dave McGuire

25 years, 2 months

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spurious post

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Sorry about that. Pressed the <SEND> button just as the net was going down :( ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

25 years, 2 months

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My Collection

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 13, Peter Joules wrote: > > http://www.neurotica.com/sem/images if you're interested. The blown > > tungsten lamp filament pics are filament-1.jpg and filament-2.jpg. > > That's amazing. I take it that the crystals had grown on the filament > during the life of the bulb had they? Does anyone know the mechanisn for > this? It is my understanding that those crystals grew during the "flameout" of the filament. I spent a solid six hours one night going over that filament. I wish Polaroid 550PN film wasn't so damn expensive. I need to build a digital imager for my microscope. -Dave McGuire

25 years, 2 months

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by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 11:51:56 -0400 (EDT) Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com> writes: > On April 13, Jerome Fine wrote: > > Does anyone on the list run RT-11 still other than Megan Gentry? > > Do you tinker with the operating system code at all? Does anyone > > care about the RT-11 Operating System? > > I care about it; I like it quite a bit. I have a Micro 11/73 > running v5.4, and a Kevex X-ray analyzer (an accessory to the > electron > microscope) that has a pdp11/73 in it that runs RT-11. > > > -Dave McGuire ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

25 years, 2 months

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Collection list (just for phun) and wants

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Apr 13, 9:16, Tom Uban wrote: > I see you are looking for a TU56. Do you have a TC11 to control one? Not yet :-) Is that an offer? I've got the tapes for it :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager Dept. of Computer Science University of York

25 years, 2 months

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My Collection

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 13, John Foust wrote: > Isn't it a bit finicky when it comes to vacuum pumps, > cryogenics, etc.? After hanging out on the microscopy list, > I get the impression that even though people seem to be > giving away old electron microscopes as often as people > give away old mainframes, they'd be a bit hard to > maintain for home use. Not at all. Cryo setups are almost never really needed, unless you're running a cold trap on your vacuum system or an Xray detector. And there's nothing finicky about vacuum pumps...get a decent one, turn it on, and it just works. I'd say taht, for the adventurous hobbyist, an SEM at home is a very doable thing. I've had mine for about a year and have learned a great deal and had a huge amount of fun. What microscopy list are you talking about? Sounds like something I ought to be on. -Dave McGuire

25 years, 2 months

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Fw: My Collection

by jos.mar＠bluewin.ch

I'll join in ... SWTPC 6800 with 6809 CPU Zx81 BBC-B . A killer homecomputer, if not for the limited memory.. M68000 SBC ( with a 4MHz 68000...) 2 Mac Plus 2 Compaq Lunchboxes with plasma scrren. PDP8/L , power supply/ transformer dead . Anybody has some numbers on the secondary voltages so i can rewire a new one ?The various pdp8 websites do not have this information... ASR33, needs a clean and some debugging.... PDP8/E with TU56, 2x RK05, IOMEC papertape reader, Facit punch PDP8/F with TU56 and DSD440 PDP8/A with TU56 and RL01 VT100, hacked about to contain an 11/23, with external ST412, runs RX11. Anybody has some RT11 manuals available. Tek4014 in running state Philips P856 16 bit mini, no peripherals, no software... A TTL based 12bit computer of my own design. Plus some spares and various bits&pieces, and no room left... Jos Dreesen

25 years, 2 months

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Zdnn article...

by bpope＠wordstock.com

Check out this article on Zdnn: Computer junk: It's piling up 9:30 AM PT As the number of used machines take up space, computer makers are trying to set up an industrywide scheme to promote recycling before we're buried up to our necks in desktops. Suggestions? http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2707896,00.html <rant> The are so many *USEFUL* things that could be done with this computer equipment. They don't go into that here. Like http://www.newdealinc.com </rant> Bryan

25 years, 2 months

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Arizona trip ( i.e. Classic missiles )

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Classic Missiles My sister lives just down the road from several decommissioned Minuteman Silos, they are all over the middle of Missouri. Most are unmanned. The control center was at Knob Noster, Missouri, right down the road from Whiteman AFB the home of the B-2's. I've seen a few scared cows when a B-2 comes by on a low level run. They were going to blow up the Minuteman Silos but the neighbors complained about damage to the local water table because of waste oil, fluid leakage, lubricants and hydraulic fluid. They eventually demolished them and filled the holes with gravel. I think they wanted to make sure that the Russians didn't think we were going to secretly reactivate them. You could tell where they were by the little windsocks for the helicopter, the electric transformer on a pole and the fenced square with a gravel road leading to them. I've heard rumors that a few cattle had close encounters with the MP's when they walked through/over the fences looking for green grass. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

25 years, 2 months

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My Collection

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

I got motivated and took a few pics of it just a few minutes ago. They can be seen at http://www.neurotica.com/sem if you're interested. SEMs are some of the coolest devices ever put together, in my opinion. -Dave McGuire On April 13, Tony Eros wrote: > You've got an electron microscope? Cool! How small do those things get? > > -- Tony > > At 11:51 AM 4/13/2001 -0400, you wrote: > >On April 13, Jerome Fine wrote: > > > Does anyone on the list run RT-11 still other than Megan Gentry? > > > Do you tinker with the operating system code at all? Does anyone > > > care about the RT-11 Operating System? > > > > I care about it; I like it quite a bit. I have a Micro 11/73 > >running v5.4, and a Kevex X-ray analyzer (an accessory to the electron > >microscope) that has a pdp11/73 in it that runs RT-11. > > > > > > -Dave McGuire

25 years, 2 months

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Collection list (just for phun)

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 01-04-10 21:49:17 EDT, you write: << Quoting THETechnoid(a)home.com: > I'd like to see some of your lists. I bet some of you would be > hard pressedd to list your whole collection in a message that the > list server would accept (too large). >> blech, I'm traveling and can't think of what I all have. check my list at: www.nothingtodo.org/classiccmp/ccidxa2z.htm

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1702A EPROM Programming

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 13, Glenn Roberts wrote: > I've been working with someone who has an old 8080-based single board > computer he's trying to get to work. We're investigating several > possible problems but it's starting to look like there's a problem with > the EPROM. I have the ROM code he needs and will be checking out the > EPROMS, but we may be faced with a need to reprogram one or both of > these. They're the old 256 byte 1702A Intel chips (ceramic). I've only > programmed the 27xx series but have read that the 1702's are "really > difficult" to program. Was wondering if folks in this group could > comment on how to proceed if/when we decide we need to reprogram one of > these. Are there more modern plug compatible alternatives? We may also > need to replace one or both - any sources known other than eBay? > thanks. Wow...the 1702A required a -47V programming pulse, as I recall. Eeeek! -Dave McGuire

25 years, 2 months

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Collection list (looking for)

by jss＠ou.edu

> Another thing I would find interesting is/are lists of what people > are looking for.. I'm always looking for anything having to do with PDP-11s and their peripherals. I'm unsure as to what I'm going to end up with when the summer is over, so I can't be sure about anything specific. I suspect my want list includes (but is not limited to): DEC - Any PDP-11 central processor (especially 40, 45, 70) - RK05 (want 3+) - RP04 (want 1-2) - RA81 - paper-tape reader/punch - ASR33 - VT52 -- Jeffrey S. Sharp jss(a)ou.edu

25 years, 2 months

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SEMI-OT:Trainers, eval, and prototyping kits

by jbdigriz＠dragonsweb.org

My college course in electronic instrumentation had a lab section that used an E&L Instruments ADD 8000 for the experiments. I always wanted to get hold of one for my own use. I felt like the one I used was mine, anyway. They came in kit form, and since we were the first class, we had to assemble them. They were quite unaffordable by a poor student at the time, though. Anybody else familiar with this prototyping system or run across one anywhere? jbdigriz

25 years, 2 months

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My Collection

by musicman38＠mindspring.com

Here's a partial list of my collection. I have many more just not cataloged yet.. My Favorite is the Original Commodore Pet 8K, and Original Osborne 01 Tan case.. All my computers are working with the exception of 2 or 3.. Phil... Apple 2C Mint Monitor, Prtr,Manuals Apple 2GS Mint Prtr,Monitor,Drive Apple II Mint Assorted cards Apple IIe Mint 80 col card Apple IIe Mint DuoDisk,SCSI,Manuals Apple Iie Platinum good Asst Cards Apple II-plus dead Assorted Cards Atari XE Mint Kybrd, lots games Atari 400 Mint Many Extras + Carts Columbia XT Portable Mint 10 Meg Hard Drive Columbia XT Portable Dead Dual Floppy drives Columbia XT Portable Good Dual Floppy Columbia XT Portable Good 20 Mag HD Corona Portable XT VGood Dual Floppy Commodore 128 Mint Mint, Floppy, Printer Commodore 128 Good Missing 2 keys works Commodore 128 Ukwn Not Tested Commodore 16 Mint Box,Cassette,Manuals Commodore 16 Mint Box, Manuals Commodore 64 mint Box,Manuals Commodore 64 Mint Box,Manuals Commodore 64SX Exec Mint Runs great Commodore 64SX Dead Very Clean Commodore 8032 vgood 32K Ram Commodore Amiga 500 Mint Stock Commodore C128D Mint W/Kybd Commodore C128D Dead W/Kybd Commodore Pet Good Commodore Plus/4 Mint Box, Manuals Commodore Plus/4 Vgood Box, Manuals Commodore Plus/4 Mint In Box w/Manual Commodore Vic-20 M1 Mint Box, Manuals Commodore Vic-20 M2 Mint Box, Manuals Compaq Portable XT mint Dual Floppy Compaq Portable XT Mint Dual Floppy Compaq Portable XT Good 10 MB Hard Drive Compaq Portable XT Plus Dead 10 MB Hard Drive Compaq Portable II 286 Mint 20 MB Hard Drive Compaq Portable II 286 Mint 20 MB HD & Modem Franklin Ace 1200 Mint Dual Drive, Manuals IBM PC-Junior Mint Monitor, Expanded IBM PC-Junior Mint Monitor IBM PC-Junior Ukwn IBM PC-Junior Ukwn IBM Portable XT 5155 VGood Hard Drive, Floppy IBM PC-XT VGood Dual Floppy,10MB HD IBM PC-XT Mint Color,HD,20MB Kaypro 1 Vgood Works Perfectly Kaypro 1 Vgood Manuals Software Kaypro 10 Good Bad Hard Drive Kaypro 10 Vgood Works Fine Kaypro 10 Mint Perfect all Books/Sftwre Kaypro 16 Vgood Work Fine Kaypro 16-F Mint Dual Floppy - Rare Kaypro 2 Vgood Manuals, SOftware Kaypro 2X Good Mint CP/M & Manuals Kaypro 4-84 Mint Carrying Case Kaypro II Mint Manuals, Carry Case Kaypro II Good Works OK Laser 128 Vgood Manual Mattel Aquarius Mint Manuals, Cassette Mattel Aquarius Good Manuals Mattel Aquarius Mint Boxed w/All Periferals Osborne 01-A Mint White Screen Osborne 01-A Mint Green screen Osborne 01-A Dead Tech Manuals Osborne 01 Vgood Complete w/Manuals Osborne Executive Mint Manuals, Software Osborne Executive Poor Manuals, Software Radio Shack CoCo 1 Good 4K,Gray,Chicklet keys Radio Shack CoCo 1 Mint 16K, Manuals Radio Shack CoCo 1 Good 16K Ram Radio Shack CoCo 2 Mint 32K Ram, manuals Radio Shack CoCo 2 Good 32K Ram Radio Shack CoCo 2 Mint 64K Ram, Newer Kybd Radio Shack CoCo 3 Mint 64K RAM Radio Shack MC-10 Mint Box, Manuals,PS Radio Shack MC-10 Mint PS Radio Shack Model 1 Dead Radio Shack Model 1 Mint Level II Basic 16K RAM Radio Shack Model 100 Vgood Manual Radio Shack Model 102 Vgood Radio Shack Model 4 Good Radio Shack Model 4P Mint Manuals, Software Radio Shack Model 4P Good Tandy 1200FD Vgood Texas Instruments 99/4A Mint Silver/Blk Texas Instruments 99/4A Mint Beige/Tan Texas Instruments 99/4A Mint Mint in Box, Manual Texas Instruments TI99 Mint Silver/Blk Texas Instruments TI99 Mint Box,Manuals Beige Texas Instruments TI99/4A Good Beige/Tan TI-Expansion good Expansion Box Loaded TI-Expansion & Manuals Mint Manuals, Everything Loaded Timex 1000 poor Works Zenith Z170 Mint Manual, Very Clean Mac SE/30 Mint Clean, HD, SCSI Mac Plus Vgood Clean Mac Plus Vgood Clean Mac II LC Vgood Kybds Mac SE Vgood Clean Mac Laptop Bad Clean Mac 512 Vgood Clean Mac Classic II Mint Clean, SCSI HD

25 years, 2 months

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Newbie dancing hamsters questions

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

I think the idea is that you dress up like a hamster and dance when you are shocked. :) Prepayment is usually required in some fermented beverage. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

25 years, 2 months

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Collection list (just for phun)

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated Tue, 10 Apr 2001 7:16:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, THETechnoid(a)home.com writes: << I'd like to see some of your lists. I bet some of you would be hard pressedd to list your whole collection in a message that the list server would accept (too large). >> I'll give it a shot... Commodore Vic-20 Commodore 16 2 Commodore 64's 3 Commodore 128's Commodore Plus/4 Apple II+ 4 Apple //e's 2 Apple IIc's Apple IIc+ Tandy TRS-80 MC-10 P200MMX PC (Linux) P133 PC (SCO OSRV) 2 HP 9000/730's (HP-UX 10.20) Sparcstation 1 (Linux) Sparcstation 2 (clone - wish I knew who actually made it) (Linux) Sparcstation 20 (Linux) Vaxstation 3100 m38 (NetBSD) 486dx50 (FreeBSD) Decstation 5000/240 (NetBSD) Decstation 5000/125 (NetBSD) 2 Personal Decstation 5000/33's (Maxine's) (NetBSD) 2 Personal Iris 4D/35's (Irix - dunno version yet - haven't installed OS and have 2 to choose from) TRS-80 Model 100 laptop (basic) Toshiba t2400ct laptop (Linux) Compaq Contura 400c laptop (Linux) Compaq lte5100 laptop (Linux)

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FA: Technology books - hurry!

by chomko＠greenbelt.com

Programmer's Intro to IBM 360 Architecture, Instructions Set & Assembly Language (Student Guide) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1228259937 LSI11 PDP11/03 Processor Handbook - Digital http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1228298783 TTY 43 teleprinter Install and Service Guide http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1228307198 Harvard Symposium on Switching Theory 1957 -2 (rare) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1422329175 These end today!

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large load of old (non-PC) microcomputers available!

by west＠tseinc.com

I was contacted by a person in charge of liquidating the assets of an old school. They recently purchesed an old school building for other purposes, and found what they describe as a large amount of old microcomputers in storage there. They don't want them, and want to take offers for them. It sounds like they will take a "token donation" for a system or systems or maybe the whole lot. All I know at this point is that most of the systems are Commodore Pet, Commodore superPet, and TRS-80. I'd be suprised if there wasn't a bunch of apples there too, and lord knows what else. Location is Arizona. So far, they have asked that I be a single point of contact so they don't get innundated with calls. If anyone is interested, Please email me asap or they will wind up on the junk heap. Most importantly, are any interested list members in AZ (brisbane I think was the city) and could thus do a look-see, and maybe organize shipping, etc? Let me know! Jay West

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Technico (Re: TI Minicomputer?)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

No, Pics online. I have to get a camera for that or maybe borrow one. It would be interesting to line all of them up and photograph them. Allison ------Original Message------ From: "James B. DiGriz" <jbdigriz(a)dragonsweb.org> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Sent: April 13, 2001 3:08:56 AM GMT Subject: Re: Technico (Re: TI Minicomputer?) On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, ajp166 wrote: > >On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Eric Chomko wrote: > > > >> A company called 'Technico' put out a TI 9900-based single board mirco > back in > >> the > >> late 70s before TI had the 99/4. I rememebr building one for a class > project in > >> college. In fact, I got one in the attic that I need to frag out of of > these days > > > I have one and it's operational. Bought is back in '77. > > Allison > Do you happen to have a picture of it online anywhere, Allison? jbdigriz

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Places in Denver

by dlw＠trailingedge.com

I'm traveling up to Denver from Houston soon and wanted to see if anyone knew of some places to check out for old systems while I was there? What are the good thrift store chains there? Any other places? Thanks. ----- David Williams - Computer Packrat "When the mind is free of any thought or judgement, then and only then can we know things as they are." dlw(a)trailingedge.com http://www.trailingedge.com

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Newbie dancing hamsters questions

by dogbert＠mindless.com

Just wondering. How many Mhz or MIPS do you need to display dancing hamsters? What's the best way to get this to work using only a 7-segment LED for the display and telegraph sounder for sound output? My boss wants an estimate of how long it will take to implement this with a 4 bit CPU for under $1. Thanks very much in advance. ;) -- Ross

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Collection list (just for phun)

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Lessee, a partial listing of the 'fleet': SS-50: ---------- SwTPc 6800 SwTPc S/09 SSB Chieftain 9512 (in SwTPC cabinet) American Automation AA-570 Commies: --------------------------- VIC (With 64k Video Pak) C-64 (With Z-80 pak) C-128 PC's --------------------------- Brand X 286 test-bed 'Oklahoma' PC's Limited 286 'Utah' DTK 20MHz 386 running NetBSD 'Nevada' Brand X 233MHz AMD 6x86 running FreeBSD 'Missouri' Gateway P-166 Running Windows 95 'Michigan' HP's ---------------------------- HP-9000 model 16 HP-9000/360 'Eugen' HP-9000/375 'Bismark' Data General ---------------------------- AViiON AV-400 'Richlieu' AViiON AV-530 'Voltaire' DEC ---------------------------- PDP-11/23+ 'Hood' PDP-11/73 'Prince_of_Wales' MicroVax II 'Furious' VaxStation 3100m76 'Hermes' Other ---------------------------- H-89 Aquarius Fluke 1720A CoCo III At&t Unixpc 7300 AT&T UnixPC 3b1 ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Contemporary monitor

by wstan＠localhostnl.demon.nl

At some point I will need to replace my old monitor that is growing dim and blurry. I hope to replace it with a new contemporary monitor that is not too expensive. It will need to be multisync, sync on green, and have BNC input. Does anyone have experience with anything along that line? I know Iiyama has a couple models: Pro 410 and Pro 510. Sony is a bit too expensive. Any other brands and models? -Bill

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Technico (Re: TI Minicomputer?)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

For me to build it as a class project I'd have been the professor. I'd been out of school for a while by then. No, I wanted a 9900 based machine to see what was on the non intel track back then. My 9900, ELF, 6800d1 and SC/MP all came from that effort back then. I've had them since before 1979. Allison ------Original Message------ From: Eric Chomko <chomko(a)greenbelt.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Sent: April 13, 2001 4:07:02 AM GMT Subject: Re: Technico (Re: TI Minicomputer?) Did you build it for a class project? Techinco was based out of Columbia, MD. Eric ajp166 wrote: > From: James B. DiGriz <jbdigriz(a)dragonsweb.org> > > >On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Eric Chomko wrote: > > > >> > > >> > >> A company called 'Technico' put out a TI 9900-based single board mirco > back in > >> the > >> late 70s before TI had the 99/4. I rememebr building one for a class > project in > >> college. In fact, I got one in the attic that I need to frag out of of > these days > > I have one and it's operational. Bought is back in '77. > > Allison

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Withdrawn: Offer of system/36 parts (wet bar)

by tony.eros＠machm.org

Maybe it'll work twice -- I'll give it a try! I have an original power cord that was wired into an Altair 8800. I don't really _want_ to use it to hang a potted plant from a hook in my family room, but it looks like I'll have to. Unless, of course, some generous soul would be so kind as to give me the parts I'm missing to restore my power cord to its former complete Altair greatness. :-) -- Tony At 12:21 AM 4/13/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Please do accept our apology. > >I was hoping for a Protect Board for my System/36 and one was offered by a >generous list member. > >In hopes of keeping this system whole, I withdraw my offer of free >components. > >Sincere apologies to anyone concerned. > >Best wishes to all, > >The Technoid > >-- >----------------------------------------------------------- >Jeffrey S. Worley >President >Complete Computer Services, Inc. >30 Greenwood Rd. >Asheville, NC 28803 >828-277-5959 >Visit our website at HTTP://www.Real-Techs.com >THETechnoid(a)home.com >-----------------------------------------------------------

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Arizona trip

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

(Crossposted to CLASSICCMP and the milsurplus list) My mate and I will be visiting friends in Tucson around the end of May. While there, I aim to do some scrounging! I'm less interested in computer hardware (with one notable exception -- specifically, an Intermec bar-code label printer, direct thermal species) than I am in test equipment and radio hardware, both mil-surplus and commercial. In fact, I have need of a good source for used aircraft-type circuit breakers (the pop-button type, both DC and AC) at this time. Suggestions for scrounge stops in the Tucson/Phoenix area would be appreciated. Please keep in mind that I'll only have one day to do this. Thanks much. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K) "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates to me that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma).

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Collection list (just for phun)

by rachael_＠gmx.net

Here is my small collection Commodore Busness Machines -------------------------- Cbm 8296(i`m missing a 6545 or 6845 crtc IC and a new PSU for it) Cbm 8032sk with comal80 Commodore vic-20 Serveral Commodore 64`s Commodore 128 serveral 1541 and 1541II 8250lp dual floppy drive 8050 dual floppy drive Commodore 500 Commodore 600 Commodore cd32 Commodore 1200 Commodore 3000 (my second work machine) Commodore 4000 (the machine I`m using every day) Commodore pc60II other ----- philips g7000 philips odyssey 2001 Texas ti99/4a 2x zx81 with 16 and 64 memory expansion amstrad cpc464 with 512kb memory expansion Ibm 5160 xt Rc Piccolo (Saddly its broken, have`nt be able to repair it yet) Regards Jacob Dahl Pind -------------------------------------------------- = IF this computer is with us now... = =...It must have been meant to come live with us.= = (Belldandy - Goddess First class) = --------------------------------------------------

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Ohio Scientific PEEK (65) Journals

by dkuhn＠acsworld.net

Cleaning out more of my basement and old computer collection. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1229772880 Does anyone here think I could get anything for a Superboard 2 in a C1P Case with memory expansion/floppy controller board? It is escentially a C1P. If so, I could clean it up a bit and put it on ebay. If not, it will evenutally just get pitched. It is a piece of my history, but there has to come a point where I must let go. Thanks Dave

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Found Fujitsu FANUC/Siemens (CNC?) unit in our basement

by Arno_1983＠gmx.de

Chad Fernandez warned me: >Please don't send attachments to the list. This is bad form, in general, for any list. I think it is >supposed to be worse than off-topic threads :-) OK, now I know it was a good idea to ask first instead of sending 'em straight away... (Such rules should be mentioned in the FAQ or some kind of "Do's and Dont's" section of the classiccmp homepage, or did I just miss it when I was reading?!) As I think I won't have the time for creating a good web page in the near future, I'm rather going for the temporary storage approach, as suggested by Mike Ford: >One mentioned on another list is www.whalemail.com that allows something like 75 MB of free >temporary storage. I'll also be waiting the next few days and only get myself some space if any reply to my post actually caring about the machine arrives - why offer the pics if nobody knows the box and/or wants to have a look at? Arno Kletzander Arno_1983(a)gmx.de -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net

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Collection list (just for phun)

by LFessen106＠aol.com

I have to say that this is one of the most interesting topics that we have discussed lately and it ereminds me why I actually joined the list in the first place! Another thing I would find interesting is/are lists of what people are looking for.. For instance, I would really like to get a hold of a GRiD laptop - one of the 15xx series (386/486's). I have a GRiDcase 3 and really like it but it isn't really a daily useable computer - more of a collectors item. I could squeze Linux or NetBSD on a newer one and have an indestructable workstation. Slightly off topic (not quite 10), but I am also looking for an inexpensive Multia for a project I am working on. Also looking to get a hold of another smaller Vax or two (really like those), and an HP 9000/3xx as well. -Linc Fessenden

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Chicago area sites

by brian.roth＠firstniagarabank.com

I can understand the hard drive issue. I used to live in Kentucky and I used to go to the sale at Ft. Knox every month. It definitely was my favorite DRMO sale behind Columbus. Quite often, the machines I received had "A LOT" of information on them that although not classified, was certainly private. It Brian. was fun rummaging around all the lots of equipment with rounds of ordinance blasting in the distance. I'll never forget on one of my best huals of equipment, I wedged a Penske rental truck under one of the overpass's there. A couple of soldiers help me let the air out of the tires and reinflate them when it was clear. Its hilarious when I think of it now but when it happened...... Brian. Brian Roth Network Services First Niagara Bank (716) 625-7500 X2186 Brian.Roth(a)FirstNiagaraBank.com

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DC area sites

by Demon02554＠aol.com

In a message dated 4/13/01 12:09:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, chomko(a)greenbelt.com writes: << the Penatgon could keep you busy for a whole year! >> im in no mood to go to jail...i was almost detained for asking..ASKING some people at Network Solutions if they had any old hardware that they no longer planned to use

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Technico (Re: TI Minicomputer?)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: James B. DiGriz <jbdigriz(a)dragonsweb.org> >On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Eric Chomko wrote: > >> > >> >> A company called 'Technico' put out a TI 9900-based single board mirco back in >> the >> late 70s before TI had the 99/4. I rememebr building one for a class project in >> college. In fact, I got one in the attic that I need to frag out of of these days I have one and it's operational. Bought is back in '77. Allison

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DC area sites

by Demon02554＠aol.com

anyone know any places where I could find stuff in the suburbs southwest of DC (Fairfax County) whether it be through dumpster diving or second hand stores thanks, Robert Cobbins

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New 1802 (ELF) Emulator, Website

by dave＠ruske.net

First, sorry for that first post in HTML. With luck, I've got that remedied. Bad client, BAD!! Ethan Dicks wrote: > Is there any chance of a revision to emulate the appearance of the TIL311 > displays when in "Elf" mode? Even though they were expensive, I always > like the way they looked (one of the early bugs I mentioned on Bill > Richman's emulator was that there was an extra row of dots in his rendered > TIL311s). Easily done; look for it in the next release. The TIL311 *is* a cool display. My low-budget ELF had to make due with seven segments, but what the heck, now it's in software. It strikes me funny that the size of a bitmap for one digit (8 bit depth) takes up several times the memory of the original 256 byte ELF! Oh the waste of it all... Sellam Ismail wrote: > I created a new section in the VCF Link Library for RCA: Thanks, Sellam, I appreciate it! Dave Ruske dave(a)ruske.net

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Heath/Zenith stuff

by mbg＠world.std.com

I believe the HT-11 distributed by Heath was a modified version of RT-11, but standard RT-11 did and does work on the H-11. Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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