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Call for Resources for CDC 6000/Cyber 70 Series Emulator

by lance＠costanzo.net

At 05:42 PM 6/11/01 -0500, you wrote: >contains one file, and the density is 556? old 7-track, 200, 556, 800. those were gentler times.

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Parting out systems

by mbbrutman＠yahoo.com

I've bought pieces of systems instead of entire systems too, and I was happy to find the one or two oddball pieces that I did find. (The most memorable one was a 64KB L2 cache module for an older Compaq desktop.) However, the thing that bugs me about this particular seller and this set of auctions is that I got the impression that this was a perfectly working machine, and that it was just cut up for parts because even if only two parts are sold, that's worth more than entire systems typically go for. What do you think happens to the parts that don't sell? Maybe they'll wind up on Ebay again, or more likely, they'll get junked. The seller made their money on the first overpriced part they sold, so there is no incentive to take care of the rest of the parts that don't sell. Think about entropy for a minute .. once the discrete pieces are split, it's harder to re-aquire them and reassemble the machine. So anyway, as a collector I'm a little miffed by it. The seller's response wasn't rude - or at least is was a rude as my unsolicited advice. ;-) As a capitalist, it's the best route. I tend to side with the collectors more, so I'm a little sad to see a machine cut up for parts like this. The motherboard really should have been kept with the keyboard I/R receiver - they're not really discrete parts. That just shows me the person doesn't know about the machine, nor cares. And pity the buyer that doesn't know the going price for a standard PCjr is about $10. This guy is selling indivual pieces for $6.99 or so. I'll crawl back to my hole now. ;-) Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Storage of computer and parts in the residential area

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 12:26:09 -0400 "John Allain" <allain(a)panix.com> writes: > there. I dropped a Cipher880MTU from 6' once. It did a China > syndrome through the table below it down to the concrete. > This computer stuff is pretty dangerous. > (At least in Earth's gravity <g>) Or in California where the damned ground won't hold still . . .:^) ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Call for Resources for CDC 6000/Cyber 70 Series Emulator

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> The cool games mainly came out of Minnesota, especially from the state > high school cyber mainframe (MECC, Minnesota Educational Computer Consortium). > Empire, Sceptre of Goth, many combat games, etc, etc. On the University > cybers, we had Karnath, and other similar multi-user mazes of monsters. > And of course if you could wrangle access to the real CDC systems downtown > at the corporate headquarters, you could play Avatar. My first exposure to MECC was post-college; MECC had converted a huge base of BASIC programs to run on one of those Wang suitcase-portable BASIC systems; I had to convert the programs to run under Primos' BASIC/VM. > The university wrote some really nice compilers. MNF (Minnesota Fortran) > and a really nice Pascal compiler, both with Post-Mortem Dump facilties > that made debugging code very easy. When the program aborted, it would > print a table explaining what function/subroutine name it aborted on, > what line number, and a printout of variable names and values. If i recall, > it would also print the source code line as well. The Pascal came with a > very extensive set of library routines, I even convinced em to add some > functions to allow me to properly manipulate direct-access files for > a communication system I wrote for a game i never completed, though it > was later added to someone elses game. Yeah, MNF was pretty cool, I wish I still had my manual! However, I didn't know they spun a Pascal compiler; strange, I was a PUG Charter member... Regards, -doug q

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Data Rescue Needed - DG 30 cartridge tapes

by raukland＠mfmr.gov.na

Dear All Hello, I am based in Namibia and work for the Southern African Development Community (SADC) through UK based development aid to assist in data Management. I seek your advice in rescuing some data which is important for World Climate studies and Namibia's economy. I will try to keep this concise- the details are all through 2nd/3rd hand contact and sketchy: In 1990 Namibia gained independance from South Africa. A group of inexperienced Namibians inherited 8 cartridge tapes, allegedly for a DG30 which have subsequently been lost (many have tried to find them, they are gone). A copy of the tapes exists in South Africa. There are 8 tapes and no machines to run them on either in SA or here. Attempts have been made to read them by fisheries scientists in France which failed (I do not know the details). As far as I can ascertain a DG30 is a Data General Desktop model DG 014-000767-01 (???) I know nothing about these machines and would appreciate some links. The tapes were written in 1988. They contain data in a 'datasensitive file' (whatever that means) with 80 characters per record and fixed record length files. Why are they impt? They contain data from fisheries activities in the environmentally chaotic Benguela current region for between 1950-1987 for impt pelagic fish species (sardine). Getting this data into a more usable format will enable; 1. A better understanding of fish-environmental interactions in the face of global climate change and human impacts. 2. Provide an increased time series for fisheries modelling, thereby assisting in developing Namibias economy (of which Fisheries is the 2nd most impt). The sardine stock is currently at an all time low and employment has suffered. 3. could potentially improve protein supply to central africa. If anyone knows how this v.impt data could be rescued I would be grateful. Please contact me below. Richard ---------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Aukland BENEFIT Office, c/o NatMIRC, P.O. Box 912, Swakopmund, Namibia Tel: +264 (0)64 4101163 (NOTE NEW NUMBER) Fax: +264 (0)64 405913 WWW: http://www.benefit.org.na Email: raukland(a)mfmr.gov.na

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2 FREE qbus boards

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On June 11, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > Anybody want a KDF11-B (M8189), or a M7165 (1/2 of a 2 board set)? They > > are yours for shipping. > > Is that 1/2 of an RLV11? 1/2 of a KDA50. -Dave McGuire

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Cyber205 was RE: Ebay horror ...

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Uhhhh...ahhh....a Cyber205? 8-) That's a VERY historically important machine in my opinion. I'd been deleting these messages as yet-another-ebay-related-flame but this message caught my attention. If there's a complete Cyber 205 in existence anywhere, I'd sure like to know about it. What is the status of this machine? Is it available? Anybody know? -Dave McGuire On June 11, Tom Uban wrote: > Not too long ago (and perhaps still) the CDC Cyber 205 was complete and > sitting in one of the Purdue University salvage buildings. This is a *BIG* > machine and would require some serious space, power, etc. > > The machine has a panel on it which there are the signatures of many > people. I think they are the signatures of the installers, maintainers, > etc. > > --tom > > >Do you *really* know people who keep mainframes rusting > >in the yard? CDC Cybers, by any chance? > > > >;-) > > > >-dq > > > >

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Ebay horror ...

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Not too long ago (and perhaps still) the CDC Cyber 205 was complete and > sitting in one of the Purdue University salvage buildings. This is a *BIG* > machine and would require some serious space, power, etc. > > The machine has a panel on it which there are the signatures of many > people. I think they are the signatures of the installers, > maintainers, etc. Do you have connections there? The first programming environment I used was ALFIE- Algebraic Language for an Interactive Environment. It was a subsystem running under Dual-MACE that provided a superset of BASIC, adding FORTRAN-like formatting. I really enjoyed running it on the ASR33s... GOOD MORNING.<DING><DING> THIS IS ALFIE.<DING><DING> Of course, morning would be replaced by afternoon and evening at the appropriate times. I also ran it on some NCR ttys and the first of many Silent 700s I've used, but it never sounded quite the same. Anyway, I'd love to get a copy of the source, if it still exists in an archive. It'll take some modifications to get it running under Kronos, but that's just work. So if you can direct me to the right person, I'd really appreciate it. Ditto for anyone who might know about the 205... Regards, -dq

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Ebay horror ...

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

Not too long ago (and perhaps still) the CDC Cyber 205 was complete and sitting in one of the Purdue University salvage buildings. This is a *BIG* machine and would require some serious space, power, etc. The machine has a panel on it which there are the signatures of many people. I think they are the signatures of the installers, maintainers, etc. --tom >Do you *really* know people who keep mainframes rusting >in the yard? CDC Cybers, by any chance? > >;-) > >-dq > >

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Will trade classic H/W for CP/M 2.2 help!

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Lance Costanzo <lance(a)costanzo.net> >Speaking of CP/M and DRI, here's some web sites that may be of interest: >http://www2.gol.com/users/joewein/dri.html >http://members.iinet.net.au/~daveb/cpm/index.html >http://www.faqs.org/faqs/CPM-faq/ >http://www.retroarchive.org/cpm/ >http://members.aol.com/wwheco1/commscpm.htm >http://www.maxframe.com/GARY&CPM.HTM >http://www.daml.org/people/jflynn/algolm.html You can also get CP/M source and binaries, and online docs at http://www/cpm.z80.de >>You can buy a "new" licensed copy of CP/M (the original DR version) from >>California Digital for only $9 at http://www.cadigital.com/software.htm. It >>won't be set up for your particular computer, though, but does have the DR >>manuals. only $9 and you get a manual? dang! The manuals are a good deal alone. Allison

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Ebay horror ...

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Maybe the way to stem this trend is to make it known that there are people who'd > pay MORE for the complete units than the parts will bring. If that's not the > case, ... well ... Agreed... -dq

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Talking 'bout shakin & quakin (was Re: Storage of computer an d parts in the residential area)

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Yes, Missouri. <begin nitpick mode> Also, it was the Mississippi River (which diverted into an area where the ground fell), forming Reelfoot Lake, and the year was 1811 (there were also quakes in 1812). <end nitpick mode> The main quake was felt over all of the US east of the Rocky Mountains. -----Original Message----- From: Vance Dereksen [mailto:vance@ikickass.org] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 1:24 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: RE: Talking 'bout shakin & quakin (was Re: Storage of computer and parts in the residential area) I believe the New Madrid fault is in Missouri. Peace... Sridhar On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, John Lawson wrote: > > IIRC, the largest US quake (of which we have reliable evidence) in the > last 150 years was on the New Madrid fault in (I think) Tennessee, which > changed the course of the Ohio River. It was approaching a 9.0 R. > > So California can not claim to have *all* the fun. > > Cheers > > John > > >

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Ebay horror ...

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > I'm so mad. I'm watching on Ebay now as a greedy seller takes > > apart a PCjr, and parts out the individual pieces for obscene > > amounts of money compared the the cost of an intact system > > unit. > > Have you noticed the seller that is splitting up IBM 360 and > CDC cores and selling them one board at a time? If that's the same ad (CDC) I saw, he is at least offering full stacks, at the [StackSize] * CostPerStack price. -dq

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FW: Microvax II

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

Here's an email I got today. Any help anybody could provide the person would be greatly appreciated, as I don't have the material myself. Please reply to the original sender directly. Jeff ---------- >From: "Sean & Donna Campbell" <jcdc(a)danah.com> >To: <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> >Subject: Microvax II >Date: Mon, Jun 11, 2001, 2:16 PM > >Dear Jeff >With reference to you article on Microvax II do you happen to have or know >where I could get access to a circuit diagram for the ASTEC power supply >Model no AA13010 that is inside the Microvax. >Many thanks >Sean Campbell

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Ebay horror ...

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> >There are some folks who think dead computers are of value for something other > >than parts, but I don't know very many. Give the sensible ones a break, will > >you? > > I'm not saying that the PCjr falls into this category, but there are any > number of systems that even if they're not working should be kept intact and > not junked or canibalized for whatever useful parts you can get. This > mainly applies to those machines that a collector is happy to find in any > condition due to their rarity. Yeah, I was really pissed when a breaker beat me out of a local PDP-11/73 last year. Enough that I almost tried to talk the seller out of selling to me anyway, thinking I'd have to offer him some kind of sweetener for the deal so living with a bad E-Bay rep wouldn't bother him so much. Had it been an 11/40, 11/45, 11/50, or 11/70, I *would* have done it. -dq

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They cant stay here -- Whos wants a TOSHIBA T1200 and/or COMPAQ PORTABLE II?

by claudew＠videotron.ca

Hi all I ended up with these this weekend and cannot keep these around. I powered them both on, they started up both. Did not go any deeper into testing.... No cracks or missing parts or big scratches....I suppose the rechargeable battery on the T1200 is dead. No original P.S. for the T1200, you need 12VDC@2A or something like that... Any trade offers considered, if you are a regular trader with me you can probably get these free (for shipping?) if you really want one or both... I am still looking for Sparc stuff like IPXes, Sparcs, framebuffers...and SGI stuff...anything NON ibm pc type vintage or semi-recent can possibly interest me... Claude http://www.members.tripod.com/computer_collector or http://computer_collector.tripod.com

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Need documentation on a 2114B HP Computer

by ljcst18+＠pitt.edu

Hello Reader, I work at the University of Pittsburgh Physics department and we have a 2114B HP computer in storage. I tracked down the software for it but I do not have any manuals on how to run the thing. If someone could help me out with an operations manual and maybe an instruction set or something the information would be appreciated. Thanks, Luke Cashdollar

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sol-20 + Helios II system score, plus plea

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Well, sometimes great things just happen when you aren't looking. > > Friday night I got an email from a woman who lives 10 minutes from me. She > was moving and had a Sol-20 with a Helios II disk system and would I want > to take it? !!! > Needless to say, I did. I'm a happy guy. Well, I was before > I got it, so maybe I should say even happier guy. > > There are two problems: although she had about 8 8" floppies, only one of > them appears to be hard-sectored, which I think the helios system > was. Second, although there is a very nice persci manual, the manual > containing the technical information (programming, schematics, theory of > operation) for the two-board disk controller wasn't to be found. I know like Bob Stek and I, you've got a pretty complete collection of SOLUS/Proteus News... have you thought about compiling a list of people who were subscribers, or who wrote in, and contacting them? I know, 20 years later, it's a long shot. Too bad Stan Sokolow got out of it; was it you or Bob who contacted him one month after he dumped all the PTC stuff? Regards, -dq

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Need documentation on a 2114B HP Computer

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I have this: > > A Pocket Guide to Hewlett Packard Computers (early/mid '70s?) > covering the 2116B, 2115A, and 2114A sections: > Specifications and Basic Operation Manual > Assembler Reference Manual > Basic Control System Reference Manual > Fortran Reference Manual > Program Library Reference Manual > BASIC Language Reference Manual Most of these have been scanned and OCR'd and can be found at Jeff Moffat's site: http://oscar.taurus.com/~jeff/hp2100 (that's typed from memory, may be wrong). Of course, someone who has actual hardware might want actual books; since all I've got are simulators, reasonable facsimilies are OK. Regards, -dq

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IRC

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Well IU know Elliott/Ferrante/LEO/English Electric/Marconi all started > combining in the 60's, and that English electric was one of IRC's > victims. I just don't know the exact sequence and whether IRC brought > any of it about. Heh... the Leo I was pretty wild looking! Looks like it was designed by a Hollywood (or Pinewood Studios?) B-movie set designer... guages! At any rate, the Brits get left out of the histories I often see, leading to the mistaken belief we did it ourselves. Regards, -dq

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IRC

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> There's been a discussion of labour/management relations on Rovernet, and > this has led to the Industrial Recovery Corporation. > > Does anyone know if the IRC meddled with the British computer industry, > as they did with the motor industry? Funny... just yesterday, my computing history research took me to Britain; I found the National Archive of Computing History or somtthing like that at Manchester University (and it didn't have a history of computing at Manchester, which was what I was personally looking for), but it did have an interesting online exhibit, and pointers to archives. The URL is stuck in my browser at home, but it shouldn't be too hard to find using Google. Regards, -dq

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DECStation 88

by stefan＠softhome.net

Hi, I was looking for information and possibly a picture of the DECStation 88. Because I have located one in a not too good state, it was outside, but I still want to pick it up anyway, because you never know if something might still work. Anyway, can anybody suply me with any information ? Thanks. Stefan.

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Intecolor Updated Request

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I think I picked up one or two of these power cables last year, they are > definitely old and used. I'll see if I can find them on Monday. > > They are used on Teleray terminals, a Modem tester (with Nixie Tube display) > that I have, etc. Ah, Teleray... I remember these well from my Prime days (they were the only CRT-based terminals we had, everything else was a DECwriter). A sales representative came to our site (we were the Computing Services for the local public school corp), and we explained that since students would be among the users of these terminals, they'd have to be pretty sturdy. Well, we're up on the second floor of this building. The sale droid pulls out a screwdriver, removes the Teleray metal cover (almost all metal boxes IIRC), pulls the CRT and yoke harness, sets them aside, puts the cover back on, and *kicks* it down two flights of stairs. He brought it back up,removed the cover again, replaced the CRT & yoke assembly, put the cover back on, hooked it up, and it worked! "Sold" said my boss... Regards, -dq

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Intecolor Updated Request

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> >The ISC Intecolor 8001 is missing the power cable (which is a funky connector I can't > >seem to locate a cord for) and the fuse holder and fuse, which I can't > >identify. You can see the power connector in the lower left and the fuse > >holder in the lower right. > > > >http://asp1.secure-shopping.com/aclifton/intecolor.back.jpg > > > >If anyone can help me locate or can provide the correct power cable, fuse holder > >and fuse for it (assuming it's not a standard fuse type), I would be GREATLY > >appreciative. I'm prepared to pay money for them as I'd really > >like to have this unit going in it's original condition. > > Such the coincidence -- for the last few weeks I've been searching for this > exact power cord -- and now, just this week, I can say I am the proud owner > of one brand new, black, 12' power cable manufactured by Electri-Cord. These power cords used to be typical on stereo equipment. I've got a Sony reel-to-reel recorder that uses one, and also a really old video monitor. Plus, one of my Silent 700s uses this kind of power cord. A store that sells accessories for home appliances might be a good place to check. Regards, -dq

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storing gear and businesses and so on

by jim＠calico.litterbox.com

It does bring up a related question. If memory serves, electronic equipment for home use has to have an FCC class C rating, whereas equipment for business only needs to have a class B rating, since nobody is expecting to run TVs, radios, etc nearby (at least in theory). So my question is, if my vaxstation is only class b rated, can I get in trouble having it in my home? (not sure the vaxstation isn't class c rated, it's just an example here.) -- Jim Strickland jim(a)DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- BeOS Powered! -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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OT: PC AGP slots

by Demon02554＠aol.com

i had a similar problem to this i have a PII/400 and an ATI Rage Fury Maxx everytime i tried to use any special functions of the graphics card, my computer froze...

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IMSAI EPROMs

by jweder＠telusplanet.com

Tony... Even better idea! Yeah, I was a bit bothered by the idea of hacking this nicely built Godbout EconoROM board. Might just try your idea, though not THIS month! Life is too dang busy! (sigh) Joel A. Weder jweder(a)telusplanet.net 403-556-4020

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IMSAI EPROMs

by jweder＠telusplanet.com

Thanks to everybody who's replied about how to read these EPROMs. I'll likely be contacting somebody within a couple of weeks to get it done, or I MIGHT get crazy and buy a Data I/O 29B burner (tho I'm not feeling all that wealthy right now!) I like Dick's idea of modifying the board for 2716's after getting the data read out of the 2708's mind you... It'll be interesting to see what's on these dang things. I have an idea one program might be some kind of ham radio software, as I just found some pencilled notes about AFSK and CW outputs to one of the ports. Sure be nice to find BASIC! Joel A. Weder jweder(a)telusplanet.net 403-556-4020

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sol-20 + Helios II system score, plus plea

by frustum＠pacbell.net

Well, sometimes great things just happen when you aren't looking. Friday night I got an email from a woman who lives 10 minutes from me. She was moving and had a Sol-20 with a Helios II disk system and would I want to take it? Needless to say, I did. I'm a happy guy. Well, I was before I got it, so maybe I should say even happier guy. There are two problems: although she had about 8 8" floppies, only one of them appears to be hard-sectored, which I think the helios system was. Second, although there is a very nice persci manual, the manual containing the technical information (programming, schematics, theory of operation) for the two-board disk controller wasn't to be found. So, a few pleas: 1) Does anybody have the technical docs for the P.T. disk controller for the Helios system? 2) Does anybody have any disks images for the Helios? Any disks? Bob Stek was kind enough to supply me with a copy of a listing of the source code for PT-DOS, but OCR'ing and correcting over 200 pages of source code in a very small font might be too much to take on. 3) What should I do with my one disk that might work with this system? 3a) Just try and boot off of it 3b) Try to tune up the persci disk (and maybe make it worse) then boot the disk 3c) Find a service that specializes in recovering data from old disks On 3a, I'm discouraged from doing this as the cabinet is full of dust and spider carcasses. If I do a thorough job cleaning, then perhaps as long as I'm there I should adjust things. On 3b, has anybody done this (back in the day)? Is it for mere mortals, or does it really require special skills to prevent making things even worse? On 3c, does anybody know how much that costs for doing just one disk? Ten disks? Are there any risks of the disk getting trashed? My ultimate hope is to get PT-DOS running on Solace. I know it is a pain to dig out old docs, but if you have them, please contact me and I'll try to work out something with you to make it worth the effort. (BTW, a few weeks ago I updated Solace to fix a few bugs and add a few minor features -- it is at version 2.3 now: http://www.thebattles.net/sol20/sol.html http://www.thebattles.net/sol20/solace/solace.html ) Thanks. ----- Jim Battle == frustum(a)pacbell.net

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Intecolor Updated Request

by elf＠ucsd.edu

Previously you wrote: [Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:11:15 -0500] >The ISC Intecolor 8001 is missing the power cable (which is a funky >connector I can't >seem to locate a cord for) and the fuse holder and fuse, which I can't >identify. You can see the power connector in the lower left and the fuse >holder in the lower right. > >http://asp1.secure-shopping.com/aclifton/intecolor.back.jpg > >If anyone can help me locate or can provide the correct power cable, fuse >holder >and fuse for it (assuming it's not a standard fuse type), I would be GREATLY >appreciative. I'm prepared to pay money for them as I'd really >like to have this unit going in it's original condition. > Such the coincidence -- for the last few weeks I've been searching for this exact power cord -- and now, just this week, I can say I am the proud owner of one brand new, black, 12' power cable manufactured by Electri-Cord. (...you know how it is -- you're searching for something real mundane -- thinking you'll find it in the first place you look. After multiple failed attempts, and before you know it, you're on a mission to find what has become anything but mundane - and more like the crown jewel of your collection. Passionate about a power cord? ...but you don't understand - this isn't just "any" power cord! :P) I recently added a Computer Devices, Inc. Miniterm 1203a portable printing terminal to my collection -- and sho 'nuff -- when it arrived -- no power cable. If you need one - contact me off list & I'll see if they're still available (I believe they are.) Eric F.

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DEC Searchings

by SPEDRAJA＠mail.ono.es

Hello from Spain. I give all of you a little list of DEC old items I'm searching actually: * VT100\VT102 terminals (until FOUR) with cables. * VT52 terminals (until FOUR) with cables. * TU58 tape unit with cables. * External tabletop DEC rack or support structure for 19" items. * RX02 disquette units cabinet with two disquette units + controller + cables * RL01/02 disk unit (TWO) + controller + cables * One paper tape reader/puncher * One card reader/puncher * One LA100 or similar terminal/printer In CPU's chapter... * One VAX-11 of little size, with disk and tape unit (and even better with diskette unit(s) ). * One PDP-8 cpu minimally operative * One UNIBUS PDP system minimally operative. If somebody has this items in Europe and with 220 volts power supply unit it would be better. With spanish keyboard it would be wonderful, but not imprescindible. I know about shipping cost matters, but is not neccesary to locate and ship all items at same time, etc. You can contact in my e-mail address. Thanks for all and best regards ---------- Sergio Pedraja Santander Spain ---------- mailto: spedraja(a)ono.com ----------

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All states have had tornadoes, some just more than others

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Today I drove through Pleasant Hill, Missouri, the site of one of NOAA's weather radar units. Large radar dome on a stand, it's pretty neat to see the radar track of a severe storm, especially when I'm within 7 miles of the radar. I can go online on the cable modem and watch the storm real-time >from the NOAA radar. When the neighbor's boat and dock flipped upside down into the yard I knew the wind was howling. It's only a tornado if the house explodes and there's not much left standing. Straight-line winds are more common. I tried to tour the place during an open house but the line was 1/2 mile long. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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Books on ebay

by rhblake＠bigfoot.com

Have a set of 8 really good TAB books that are part of my "collection" that are going together in one lot.... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1245390182

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OT: PC AGP slots

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

OK, this is seriously off-topic, but I know someone around here has to know, and I'm not sure where else to ask. Can you put a AGP 2x or 4x card in a system that only has a plain AGP slot? I've got a PII/333 in a 440LX system I'd like to put something like an ATI All-in-Wonder Radeon card into. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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Booting RSX-11M On A PDP-11/34

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 10, 11:35, Owen Robertson wrote: > I got the system as a whole. Everything came from the same person, except > for the LA120, which I bought refurbished from a local dealer. I think the > communications settings have to be correct, because I get the register > printout, and when I send an ASCII character to the LA120 through the > programmer's console, it prints out correctly. Assuming you have a standard DL11-E or DL11-W, you do have the settings correct. Some third party serial cards (and some DEC multiplexers) have software-programmable baud rate, but not the standard DL11s. It's possible that RSX is faking the parity, but that would be easy to check by setting the LA120 to 7E1 (or, less likely, 7bits, odd parity, one stop bit). > I'm not sure I have all the right packs mounted, because > A) I only have 2 of the 3 drives connected, and > B) the labels on a lot of the packs are faded, or have come off > completely. The RSX-11M version is 3.1. The system has 8 (I think) > additional serial > lines. I have lots of software manuals, but other than the processor > handbook, I have no hardware documentation. How many RL01 packs does an > average RSX-11M installation use? If you have a non-bootable pack mounted it should print a message on the console and then halt. Or maybe just halt (I can't remember for 3.1). If you have a bootable pack, it should boot (not surprisingly!) and print stuff on the console but it might complain about hardware being offline if you don't have the same setup it was built for (eg missing serial lines or missing disk packs). A normal RSX 3.1 installation would use 2 x RL01 or 2 x RL02. Fitting a useful system into a pair of RL01s is a bit of a squeeze, and building one like that is a pain, which might explain why you have three drives. > Also - do the drive numbers (0,1,2...) > depend soley on the order they are connected in? They don't depend at all on the order they're connected in. The depend only on the unit select plug (the white one with the number on it) plugged in to the front panel of the drive. Usually the system would boot from drive 0. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Booting RSX-11M On A PDP-11/34

by univac2＠earthlink.net

I have pretty much no experience with DEC systems, or at least PDP-11s anyway. I have an 11/34 with three RL01 drives (only two are connected). The system works fine, I get the register printout on the console LA120, and I can examine, deposite, etc. When I put the RSX-11M pack in the RL01 drive, and ready it, I don't get any fault ligtht or anything. When I get everything set up, I tell the system to boot from drive 0. The light on the drive flashes rapidly, and I can hear it spinning. Then I get a lot of line feeds on the console, along with a few seemingly random characters, usually lower case Rs, Ss, and Ms. So, if anyone can tell me what I am doing wrong, or what I need to be doing, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks, Owen

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QBus spec manual scans

by rcini＠optonline.net

Someone contacted me about scans of the QBus hardware manual scans. Before I dig the book out of storage and begin scanning it, I thought that I'd ask and see if someone else has scanned it already. If someone does, can you send me a pointer to it. Thanks. Rich Rich Cini Collector of classic computers Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ /************************************************************/

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Talking 'bout shakin & quakin

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Actually all of the planning I have seen in Missouri about a major earthquake around New Madrid fault or St. Louis results in major casualties being sent all the way to Indianapolis. There are very few burn patient beds available nationwide. I felt a weak earthquake in St. Louis in about 1978. I though my alarm went off early or it could have been the F-104's on afterburner. I don't know why everybody gets crazy, the last tornado alert I took a bottle of wine down to the basement and played some pool. If it hits that's the breaks. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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Intecolor Updated Request

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

The power connector takes what we used to call an 'adding machine' linecord. These things surface at thrifts. I haven't seen one in awhile; but then again I haven't looked, either. I could probably locate one if no one else has it . . . The fuseholder I'm not sure; kinda hard to tell from the pix-- but it looks to me like the sort that used standard 'buss' glass fuses. . . . Jeff On Sat, 9 Jun 2001 19:11:15 -0500 "Anthony Clifton - Retrocomputing.com" <vaxcat(a)retrocomputing.com> writes: > > [Message sent to classiccmp and carbon-copied to Carl Friend.] > > Hmmmm... > > The ISC Intecolor 8001 is missing the power cable (which is a funky > connector I can't > seem to locate a cord for) and the fuse holder and fuse, which I > can't > identify. You can see the power connector in the lower left and > the fuse > holder in the lower right. > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Usenet

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On June 6, Jeff Hellige wrote: > Geez....Microsoft created over 300 new newsgroups in the last day.... As if it's not bad enough that those idiots have set our industry back about fifteen years. NOW they're wasting bandwidth on top of it! -Dave McGuire

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IBM 5150 key board

by Cliffatpms＠aol.com

I got your address from witchy(a)vorbis.demon.co.uk (Adrian Graham) who thinks you can help me out. I need to buy an IBM 5150 keyboard for an exhibition. AG thinks you can help. I need it in 10 days in the UK. Regards, Cliff

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FS: Trakker 350 tape drive

by rhblake＠bigfoot.com

Have a Colorado (HP) Trakker 350 tape drive that's excess I need to sell as I've recently had to go to 3 gb tape due to expansion. If you have a broken Trakker drive or need to upgrade your present 250 to an increased size drive this works as a great replacement. Just the external drive, no power supply or cables though. $5.00 plus applicable USPS shipping cost - weighs about 4 lbs. Email me direct at rhblake(a)bigfoot.com if interested

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Subject: Lilith schematics anyone ?

by ken＠seefried.com

> From: "jos.mar" <jos.mar(a)bluewin.ch> > Subject: Lilith schematics anyone ? > > I just took possession of a Lilith workstation, including two diskpacks > and some spare boards..... Now *that* is a real prize! I'm very envious. I would suggest you contact Dr. Wirth (wirth(a)inf.ethz.ch) directly and as him about this. Since he designed them, I assume he could help you. Ken Seefried, CISSP

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Proteon P4200 and Suminet 3500H/FDDI

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 9, 10:13, Brian Hechinger wrote: > On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 09:50:58AM +0000, Pete Turnbull wrote: > it's got DAS FDDI on the system board, a Dual AUI ethernet card and a > token-ring card. each card has a set of status lights (couple leds in a row > numbered starting from 0) and the DB-25 on the system board. Well, you've obviously worked out what the ports are, and I doubt I can add anything to that. > > for the serial port, I'd expect it is indeed a console line, and you've > > just got the wrong baud rate. Or it's Japanese! > > well, hmmmmm. i've tried a handful of rates/settings and haven't come up with > much, tried straight through and roll-over, nothing works for me. if it's in > japanese i have no idea what to expect output to look like on a non japanese > terminal (if i added japanese support to solaris would tip be able to take > advantage of that??) i can plug the thing in and show you the garbage i get > at 9600 8n1 if you'd like. No, sounds like you've started where I would have. I'd have guessed most likely speed as 9600, 19200, and 1200. If you get garbage, you probably have the Rx/Tx round the right way, and I expect you've tried the comon speeds. I doubt if tip has Japanese support and it probably wouldn't help anyway. I wonder if it's worth snooping on either of the Ethernet ports? I wonder if it tries to bootp when it starts up? That might provide a way in. > On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 09:50:58AM +0000, Pete Turnbull wrote: > > I still haven't quite got my own FDDI up and running, partly due to a > > faulty SAS card in one of my SGIs. If anyone has any surplus FDDI boards > > for SGI kit, especially GIO DAS, or any surplus *small* bridges or routers, > > I'd be interested to hear from you... > > nope, don't have any of that, sorry. finally got my FDDI ring into a sane > state. DAS backbone ring with all the network equipment hanging off of that. > all the sun boxes (that can support it anyway) have SAS FDDI cards and hook > into a 3Com FDDI Hub. Sounds pretty cool. All I have is a Netbuilder with a DAS card set (and some AUIs and 10baseFL), and two SAS cards for my Indys. Hard to build a proper ring with SAS :-( > -brian (who has too many machine, most of them LARGE) Pete has, too :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Subject: Re: Storage of computer and parts in the residential are a

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> What we really need is a lending library and a central repository for > classic computer equipment. The obvious solution is to go underground. [..snip..] > How about decommissioned missile silo? A recent episode of 60 Minutes or one of its clones howed a guy out west (relative to Indiana) who's bought a silo and is living in it. Only in America... -dq

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Storage of computer and parts in the residential area

by lance＠costanzo.net

At 07:14 AM 6/8/01 -0700, you wrote: >Mike, > >I'd be interested to see what Orange Municipal Code 17.14.050(H) says. H. Home Occupations. A home occupation is one carried on in a dwelling as a secondary use, where there are no displays or signs at or upon the premises, no other commodity or services are sold upon the premises and no storage of materials and/or supplies upon those premises except within the dwelling or an enclosed garage. Where storage will take place within an enclosed garage, such storage shall be conducted in such a manner so as not to interfere with the parking of vehicles therein. Any materials and/or supplies which are stored upon the premises shall not occupy a space in excess of 500 cubic feet. Such an occupation shall not: 1. Create light, noise, odor, dust, vibration, fumes or smoke readily discernible at the exterior boundaries of the parcel. 2. Involve the use of mechanical equipment or storage of material and/or supplies on trucks in amounts not recognized as part of reasonable household use. 3. Involve the use of services at the premises of non-occupants of the dwelling in any manner; provided, however, that deliveries made by bona fide delivery firms shall be permitted, as long as such deliveries are in amounts or performed in a manner recognized as part of a reasonable household use. 4. Have the premises or adjacent public right-of-way serve as an assembly point for non-occupants, including serving as a location from which such non-occupants are dispatched to off-site locations. 5. Significantly increase the off-street parking load. 6. Involve the storage or use of flammable substances as defined by the Uniform Fire Code, Section 15.101 et. seq., or hazardous chemicals as defined by the Uniform Fire Code, Section 19.101, et. seq. 7. Involve the sale of firearms or ammunition except to those set forth in California Penal Code Section 12078. Records shall be kept for a minimum of one year on the sales of firearms. Information on these records shall include: a. Date of purchase. b. Name, address, phone number, driver's license number and date of birth of the person buying any firearms. c. Brand name, model number and serial number of firearm purchased. 8. Involve the sale, preparation, or storage of food or food products. (Ords. 12-95; 3-93; 4-87; 17-84; 15-80; 12-80; 35-79; 43-69; 15-69: Prior Codes 17.10.030, 17.26.010 and 17.04.290) look it up: http://www.ordlink.com/codes/orange/index.htm >Somehow, I suspect that they're wanting you to admit you are carrying on a >business so that they can then tell you what you can and cannot do. and they're looking for revenue. I would make sure all your goodies are clean and reasonably organized, put as much stuff as possible into one 'work area', take some pics, go down to city hall with the letter and ask to speak to a city planner. When I applied for a home business permit, I talked to a planner so I'd guess that Orange would have a similar structure. Explain to them its a hobby and not a business, its not a nusaince activity (except for the trespassing that's occured by your neighbor), and ask them what you should do. >From my experience, building and planning guys are pretty reasonable. >My first reaction is that you don't want to go that route, but rather that >you want to call it your hobby and exercise your freedom to spend your >leisure as you wish. >Do they persecute ham radio operators, satellite dish owners, book lovers, >and plant aficionados too? > >I have a friend who lives in Irvine. She's not even allowed to park her >car on the street or in front of her garage. It has to be >enclosed. However, she chose that lifestyle, but it seems excessively neat >and tidy to me. > >I've got loads of stuff in the City of LA adjacent to Culver City. No one >has bothered me yet, except my ex-, but that was years ago. > >Good luck, and keep us informed. > >Best, >Nick > > >

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SB Systems Z-80 Starter Kit

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Mike Kenzie <KenzieM(a)sympatico.ca> >It doesn't have the S-100 sockets, are these still >available? Fairly easy to get still. They are not called s100 sockets. Not cheap, figure 3-10$ each. >What cards are supported? Presumeably if the bus is S100 a great many of the S100 cards save for CPUs (though slaves may work). >Does anyone else have one working? Not I. Allison

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Proteon P4200 and Suminet 3500H/FDDI

by wonko＠tmok.com

hmm, i haven't bothered this list about these yet, this may be a good place. i've gotten absolutely nowhere with these things. friend of mine found docs for the P4200 where he works, so i've pretty much got all the knowledge i need to make it work, sadly i lack an OS. if anyone at all has a copy of the OS for the Proteon P4200 please let me know, this thing is completely useless to me otherwise. i have found absolutely nothing out about the Suminet though. i can't find docs for it, actually i can find very little about this thing on the internet. if anyone has any info whatsoever, please let me know, it's got a serial port that looks like it would be a console, but it only prints the same line over and over (i'd have to hook it up to get a copy of the line) and it's nothing intelligable. any help at all would be great!!! cheers, -brian

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Old computer lending library

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> This is not a bad idea at all. And not the first time it's been suggested. Sellam, was it you who brought this up before? -dq

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SB Systems Z-80 Starter Kit

by KenzieM＠sympatico.ca

I picked up on of these this evening with the manual. I found some mention of a previous discussion on this list regarding these, but couldn't find any conclusions. It doesn't have the S-100 sockets, are these still available? What cards are supported? Does anyone else have one working? I also picked up a modem for a Commodore 64, and RAM expansion and a hyperion and all it's documentation. Collector of Vintage Computers

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