I don't know much about the construction of the Infowindow
terminals, but I do know that they are useful for connecting
to AS/400s. (Or at least there is a model of them that is
used for AS/400s.)
The twinax cable is probably for direct connection to an
AS/400, as a terminal or as the primary console.
If you need more information, let me know - I can dig it
up. (I work for IBM, at the home of the AS/400.)
Mike
Bill Pechter <pechter(a)bg-tc-ppp1633.monmouth.com> wrote
(after Cameron Kaiser):
> > I haven't even figured out how to configure uucpd! :-)
> Ask and you shall receive.
[...]
> The rest of uucp can be picked up from the gnu sites.
> I'm willing to help with the mapping project and to act
> as a resource to help people get uucp up.
OK, I'm having trouble finding the desired documentation (O'Reilly's
_Managing UUCP and Usenet_ book) and remembering how to configure the
HDB-like UUCP that I think stockholm is running. So please check me
on this....
UUCP over dialup works by logging into the remote system, with the
user on the remote system set up with uucico as its shell. So uucp
would dial up and log in, and login would exec uucico (as the shell)
so that the caller would have something to which it could speak uucp.
uucpd continues to follow this model, only it issues the login: and
Password: prompts, checks to make sure the supplied user name has
uucico as its shell, and execs uucico after successful authentication.
Cameron has (privately?) expressed an interest in not having to set up
a user and password for each of his UUCP peers. To the best of my
knowledge, the only UUCP implementation that permits this (by way of
supporting its own user/password table that is independent of
/etc/passwd) is Taylor UUCP. Or is it possible (and safe) to set up
HDB UUCP such that all UUCP peer login names map to the same uid/gid?
Taylor UUCP is GPL'd open source, is used on FreeBSD and probably
other free Unixes, and will probably build for other Unixes (I used to
run it on a Sun 3/60 with SunOS 4.1.1) but I can understand the desire
to use the vendor-provided UUCP implementation on classic iron.
-Frank McConnell
"Brian Knittel" <brian(a)quarterbyte.com> wrote:
> Are there any IBM 1130 aficionados out there?
Sort of. CHAC has one, and someone not-on-the-list and I were ogling
it a couple or three months ago before we got sidetracked by our day
jobs.
Summary: 1131 processor w/8KW, 1442 card read/punch, 1132 printer,
several disc cartridges, several drawers full of card decks, about
three boxes of manuals.
Among other things, this got me interested enough to track down and
read parts of _Programming the IBM 1130 and 1800_ by Robert K. Louden,
which goes into enough detail about the 1130/1800 instruction set(s)
that I think a simulation of the CPU would not be very hard.
No idea where to go to find an 029. They felt antiquated to some of
us in college in 1981, and the ones I knew about then appeared to be
leased so vanished promptly when no longer needed. Then the college
found some 026s for the EE students to use.
On the other hand, I think that in 1990 I saw some things that looked
like 029s, but were controlled and used as punches by an attached
computer. These were in a GE plant in Fort Wayne, IN.
-Frank McConnell
In a message dated 6/17/01 1:59:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
brian(a)quarterbyte.com writes:
> Are there any IBM 1130 aficionados out there? Anyone who has one (besides
> bruce(a)bigoakhill.com, whose 1130 I'll be inheriting)? Anyone with software
> archives perhaps? Emulators, or interest in developing one? Oh -- and where
> this day and age does one go to find an 029 keypunch? These aren't
> showing up on ebay in any great quantity, for some reason.
>
Paul Pierce has an IBM 1130. He is planning on using it in his Museum project
when he retires. Here is a link to his computer collection.
<A HREF="http://www.piercefuller.com/collect/index.html">Paul Pierce's Computer Collection
http://www.piercefuller.com/collect/index.html</A>
It came from Clatsop Community College and he outbid me when it was put up
for bid in 1979? IIRC.
I have a scrap friend who has about 4 or 5 punch card units in Portland,
Oregon. I believe he has a couple that are complete. I don't think any are
029s, I think at least one is a 129 and three others may be from compatible
manufactures. I can find more information out if you are interested. They
would have to be shipped freight but he is equipped to do that.
Please contact me off list at Whoagiii(a)aol.com if you are interested. This
time of the year is rather busy and I don't read all of the list and may miss
a reply.
Paxton
Astoria, Oregon
On Jun 17, 19:31, Hans H?bner wrote:
> I've recently acquired an Intergraph 2430, a Workstation based on the
> Fairchild Clipper processor.
Mmm.. nice find!
> Does anyone have detailed information on the pinout of the 13W3 connector
of
> Intergraph workstations, on the video parameters used or any other
helpful
> information which could help me use this machine?
Not specifically Intergraph, I'm afraid, but I can tell you about two
common pinouts used for 13W3 connectors: that used by Sun, and that used by
SGI. They both put R,G,B on the same coax connections, but they differ in
the use of the other ten pins for monitor type sense and separate sync.
Here are the pinouts:
Pin-Layout of a 13W3 (female end): () denotes 75-ohm mini-coax
() 1 2 3 4 5 () ()
6 7 8 9 10
13W3-SGI
================
pin A1 - Red/R-Gnd
pin A2 - Green/G-Gnd
pin A3 - Blue/B-Gnd
pin 1 - monitor type 3
pin 2 - monitor type 0
pin 3 - Composite Sync
pin 4 - H Drive
pin 5 - V Drive
pin 6 - monitor type 1
pin 7 - monitor type 2
pin 8 - digital gnd
pin 9 - digital gnd
pin 10 - sync 2
Pin 10 is groound on some SGI machines.
13W3-SUN
================
pin A1 - Red/R-Gnd
pin A2 - Green/G-Gnd
pin A3 - Blue/B-Gnd
pin 1 - n/c
pin 2 - n/c
pin 3 - sense 2
pin 4 - sense ret
pin 5 - Composite Sync
pin 6 - n/c
pin 7 - n/c
pin 8 - sense 1
pin 9 - sense 0
pin 10 - C-Sync ret
Suns most often use composite sync (if not sync-on-green) whereas SGIs most
often use separate H and V sync (if not sync-on-green). SGI cables tend to
have only as many pins as are needed for the machine the cable was sold
for; Sun cables usually have all pins wired. For those few Suns that do
use separate syncs, H is pin 6 and V is pin 7.
I believe some VAXstations use 13W3 connectors -- anybody got the pinout
for those?
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
I've just encountered a new (well, to me anyway)
revision of the SuperBoard II (OSI model 600):
revision D, copyright 1980
I'm only familiar with REV B and this puppy has
some significant differences. All of these guys
had schematics with them when sold. If you have
a C1P or SuperBoard II, could you check the revision
and see if you have matching schematics. I'll pay
for a copy of REV D or any revision other than B
for that matter.
Thanks,
Bill Sudbrink
Alexander Bochmann <ab(a)gxis.de> wrote:
> I have the "Managing uucp..." book here, and "Using UUCP..."
> at work... Unfortunately, the books seems to be neither on
> one of the ORA Bookshelf CDs, nor on Safari...
The sad bit is, I know I have this book, just can't remember where I
left it last.
> From a quick scan through the book, it seems you're right.
>
> But if you don't want to use uucpd, probably only a small
> perl hack is enough to replace it's basic functionality
> and possibly fake a suitable environment...
Well, it would be easy enough to hack different authentication into
uucpd too, and make the hacked uucp setuid the user you want to use
for uucp. Would that be sufficient though? I think Taylor UUCP gets
away with doing its own authentication and running all peer requests
as the uucp user because it does not rely exclusively on Unix
filesystem access controls for validaction of the peer's requests.
I'm not sure how true that is of HDB UUCP.
> I assume that Taylor UUCP is old-style enough...
> If I had to run a non-leaf system, I would chose to install
> Taylor UUCP regardless of possible lack of coolness ;)
I remember that there used to be protocol/performance advantages to
Taylor UUCP vs. other UUCP implementations. I don't remember the
details, but they were sufficient to make the (small) trouble of
building it for SunOS 4.1.1 worthwhile.
Just looking at the docs, though, if I were building something to
support UUCPs running on various oddball classic iron peers I might go
for Taylor UUCP because it does seem to support some protocols that
are specific to non-Unix UUCPs ('y' and 'v' protocols especially).
-Frank McConnell
Hi,
I've recently acquired an Intergraph 2430, a Workstation based on the
Fairchild Clipper processor. The machine came without a monitor but with a
13W3 cable. In full confidence that my Hitachi CM803ET would be perfect for
the machine, I connected the machine, but it fails to sync. I tried a couple
of other fixed frequency monitors, but none of them properly synced.
Does anyone have detailed information on the pinout of the 13W3 connector of
Intergraph workstations, on the video parameters used or any other helpful
information which could help me use this machine?
Thanks,
Hans
--
finger hans(a)huebner.org for details
Reply to the original sender if you can help him.
Mike
The Tarnover Apple II Repository
http://tarnover.dyndns.org
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Apple II
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:58:40 EDT
From: BernieRS(a)aol.com
To: celt(a)chisp.net
Dear Rubywand--
I would like to donate all my old Apple II stuff to some worthy
organization.
I live in Sunnyvale, California. Perhaps you can help me locate someone
closer to me. What I have includes 2 clone CPUs with numeric kepads, shift
keys and function keys, 2 floppy drives, 2 monitors, Okidata printer with
graphic ROMs, printer card, language card, 80-column card, modem card, Z-80
card, joy sticks, joy stick switch box, PC joysticks with adapter, many
floppies of applications and games, and documentation. Thanks for your
help.
--Bernie
Maybe an Enigma could end up in the trash.
There are amazing thing that end up in the trash by accident, Between 1977
and 1983 when I worked at McDonnell-Douglas a cruise missile case ended up
at a high school shop class, they received the leftover wood crates. It was
locked and nobody was sure if there was a missile inside. Of course the
cases and the missiles were serial numbered. The company hadn't reported
any missing and all were accounted for. Of course nobody actually visually
counted them. Everybody believed it was a hoax until the school brought the
case to the plant and then heads rolled. Actually only an empty case. I've
heard that small military items, weapons, occasionally disappear because
they are never visually counted only accounted for in the computer.
Never blame a human blame it on the computer.
Mike
mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu
On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 10:53:04PM +0100, Tony Duell wrote:
> I have 3 of them. 2 were originally MINC-11s, the other a MINC-23
> (according to the nameplates on the front of the machines).
cool. thanks for clearning that up. i obviously forgot more than i thought. ;)
if i wasn't so tight on cash/space right now i would love to rescue that MINC.
i never did get mine running, and i had really wanted to.
oh well, i'm sure i'll do better in the future (gotta move, this place sucks,
ugh)
thanks for the info.
-brian
I am trying to set up a Compaticard II Rev D as a secondary FDC, but I
don't have the documentation. Anyone have a scanned copy of the manual?
The Micro Solutions Web page does not have it online!
The only parts I can figure out is the interrupt jumper on the card,
and the drive type number on the ccdriver.sys command line. On the card
why are there 2 sets of jumpers for I/O address and 2 sets of jumpers for
DMA? I know that my primary FDC is at IRQ6 and DMA2. Do I have to jumper
my Compaticard to both different IRQs and DMAs?
Thanks for your help,
Edwin
I was strolling in some suburb this evening when I found an old PS/2 monitor
abandoned in a parking lot. Only it was no monitor, but an IBM Infowindow
terminal. I really liked the flattish, grey screen, but it was a bit too heavy
to carry, particularly since there was no underground nearby. I did however
snatch the D15->twinax cable, which was a fancy plastic construction, as
opposed to the heavy-duty metal thing I've had before. It seems that every
other PS/2 I get has been used as some IBM mainframe terminal.
It was a sad parting, but would that terminal have done me any good? I've read
that IBM terminals are not really interactive, but just glorified punched
cards. The hardware interface doesn't make things easier, either. The terminal
had a female DB25 as well on the back, I suppose that was for a printer and no
serial async connection?
--
En ligne avec Thor 2.6a.
Idealismus ist die F?higkeit, die Menschen so zu sehen, wie sie sein k?nnten,
wenn sie nicht so w?ren, wie sie sind.
--- Curt Goetz
Anybody interested in one or more AT&T 353A adapters ?
Here is a quote from the manual :
"The 353-type adapters are coaxial-to-twisted-pair baluns that eliminate the
need for coaxial cable to connect IBM 3170- and 3270-type data equipment
using the Type A protocol. The adapters balance the unbalanced coaxial
signals from the IBM equipment so that they are compatible with the
unshielded, twisted-pair wiring of the AT&T Premises Distribution System
(PDS). By using the 353 adapters at the terminal and controller, you can
maintain a data transmission link at a speed of 2,36 Mbps while saving the
expense of coaxial cable."
If anybody wants more information please let me know.
Stefan.
http://www.oldcomputercollection.com
Just got a new-in-box Koala touch pad for a C64 - anyone ever use one on a
128D ? I have a 64, 64C, 128 and 128D but I am going to thin the collection
out to tjust the 128D and hopefully I can use this with it and not have to
hang onto the 64 to keep using the pad.
I went scrounging today and found something completely unexpected. An
Intel MDS-800! I got the dual 8" disk drive unit, CPU unit and an ICE-80
pod. Unfortunately there was no sign of the manuals or software for it.
Does anyone have SW or manuals for this thing?
Joe
On Jun 8, 22:46, Brian Hechinger wrote:
> i have found absolutely nothing out about the Suminet though. i can't
find
> docs for it, actually i can find very little about this thing on the
internet.
> if anyone has any info whatsoever, please let me know, it's got a serial
port
> that looks like it would be a console, but it only prints the same line
over
> and over (i'd have to hook it up to get a copy of the line) and it's
nothing
> intelligable.
All I know is that Suminet is a Japanese brand of network equipment, and a
3500H is an FDDI DAS (dual-attach) to Ethernet (and possibly Token Ring)
router. I've never seen any Suminet kit, but if you tell us what the
connectors look like, and how many there are, maybe I can tell you what you
have. If some are 15-pin D-connectors, it would help to know whether they
have clips or screws for mounting, and whether they are male or female. As
for the serial port, I'd expect it is indeed a console line, and you've
just got the wrong baud rate. Or it's Japanese!
I still haven't quite got my own FDDI up and running, partly due to a
faulty SAS card in one of my SGIs. If anyone has any surplus FDDI boards
for SGI kit, especially GIO DAS, or any surplus *small* bridges or routers,
I'd be interested to hear from you...
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Does anyone know where (if?) there are any sites devoted to the Otrona
Attache? I am asking because I not too long ago picked up one of these great
little machines (I know, lucky me!) & was wondering how large (small?) the
remaining user base is.
____________________________________________________________
David Vohs, Digital Archaeologist & Computer Historian.
Home page: http://www.geocities.com/netsurfer_x1/
Computer Collection:
"Triumph": Commodore 64C, 1802, 1541, FSD-1, GeoRAM 512, MPS-801.
"Leela": Macintosh 128 (Plus upgrade), Nova SCSI HDD, Imagewriter II.
"Delorean": TI-99/4A, TI Speech Synthesizer.
"Monolith": Apple Macintosh Portable.
"Spectrum": Tandy Color Computer 3, Disto 512K RAM board.
"Boombox": Sharp PC-7000.
"Butterfly": Tandy Model 200, PDD, CCR-82.
"Shapeshifter": Epson QX-10, Titan graphics & MS-DOS board, Comrex HDD.
"Scout": Otrona Attache.
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I want to get my ASR 35 fixed but I have no idea where to start and also
have no documentation.
The problem is that I only have half of the available characters, so until
the letter K or something everything works fine, but after that it starts
over with the letter A again.
Anybody any idea what the problem might be here ?
yours,
Stefan.
I think they make some water cooled units, the heat is dumped into the water
which is then exhausted as waste. Maybe it could be attached to a garden
hose. Of course water and computers rarely mix well.
I found a pointer to small area water based A/C units
http://www.spot-coolers.com/t_watercooled_index.html
Mike
mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu
On June 15, Ken Seefried wrote:
> Does anyone have a Xylogics 753 VMEbus SMD controller (the 6U size, not the
> 9U) and/or any 5.25" SMD drives they want to get rid of? I'm doing some
> NetBSD porting, and they'd help tons in one of my twisted little
> experiments.
I should have several XY753s somewhere. I'll have to dig for them.
If nobody pipes up and has them on-hand drop me a note.
-Dave McGuire
Does anyone have a Xylogics 753 VMEbus SMD controller (the 6U size, not the
9U) and/or any 5.25" SMD drives they want to get rid of? I'm doing some
NetBSD porting, and they'd help tons in one of my twisted little
experiments.
Ken Seefried, CISSP
> Since most vintage machines can't run TCP/IP but CAN run uucp, would
> there be any interest in a dialup uucp node for retrieving email, files, etc
> specifically geared toward vintage machines?
I've been thnking of this in a bit wider context.
With some of the changes happening on the Internet, it's
not quite as friendly as it used to be. An alternative
network seems like a good solution, and uucp as been
with us for a long time. We could even host rogue USENET
newsgroups.
-dq
...has been claimed.
Thanks to everyone who was willing to give this thing a good home :-)
Cheers,
Chris.
--
Chris Kennedy
chris(a)mainecoon.com
http://www.mainecoon.com
PGP fingerprint: 4E99 10B6 7253 B048 6685 6CBC 55E1 20A3 108D AB97
Set of 7 older programming books -
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1246977576
====================================================
Also I have a few "odd" books off-ebay - one lot....
GW BASIC and MSDOS softcover books from a Video Technologies 286. One of
each, both each baout 280 pages and (c) 1986
Miscrosoft GW-BASIC User's Guide and User's Reference for Phoenix Computer,
softcover about 275 pages. 1986
IBM BASIC 3.0 in original slip case box. No software, just manual in 3 ring
binder in slip case.
Xerox 6060 Family - Operator's Guide to MSDOS. Also in slip case with no
software. 1985
IBM Disk Operating System v 3.10 - again in slip case, notebook manual but
no software.
The set of 6 off-ebay books are together. I need $10 plus USPS for them,
either thru Paypal or money order. First come - first serve. Drop me an
email direct on these.
BLAH! I want every last damn model of Apollo there is! Apart from the HP
9000's that just say Apollo on them anyway... I've stayed with one of
Apollo's founders and those computers are my dad's favorite of all time... I
especially want a DN10000 though..
Will J
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A while back I popped up on the list wondering if someone was
missing a TI-99/4A that ended up on my doorstep. Since repeated
attempts to reach the shipper (including _sending the damn machine
back and having it get bounced back as undeliverable by the Canadian
post_) have been for naught, and since nobody has stepped forward to
claim that it's theirs, it's officially up for grabs. Included is
the machine, a collection of titles, two of the world's smallest
joysticks (thumbsticks?) and the incredibly crappy packaging material
and well-used box that the thing showed up in.
Well, actually, I might have to fix the packaging bits -- I'm not sure
anyone --even the USPS -- would accept this box.
Available for the cost of shipping. Contact me off list, please...
Cheers,
Chris.
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chris(a)mainecoon.com
http://www.mainecoon.com
PGP fingerprint: 4E99 10B6 7253 B048 6685 6CBC 55E1 20A3 108D AB97
>Correct, 4.x. I have the AIX uucp toolkit already installed, but it's not
>configured in any way (it calls it Basic Networking Utilities, in typical
>Big Blue obfuscation).
No...Basic Network Utilities is what AT&T called it, starting long ago. At
the time UUCP became common, it *was* the basic network.
Ken Seefried, CISSP
> I have one DN3010 presently. I am expecting delivery on
> 7 more Apollo DN3500's. This is my first experience
> putting together a collection. My decision was to
> stick to one make of computer so as to get to know
> it real well.
>
> It's nice to hear of other Apollo collectors out there, too.
What kind of peripherals do you have? Did any of
your systems have the Apollo version of AutoCAD?
-dq
While I don't collect them I really liked the 320 I had. I think they are a
cute package. The 320s I had were used as technical documentation
workstations. They were plenty fast for this. I sold three to local
collectors.
I hate to think of the 400 & 6XXs that went through my hands. We bought lots
of them from Mentor Graphics about 10 years ago. I sold a lot of parts on the
secondary market.
One of the local scrappers (Portland, OR) has an Apollo 600 box that he told
me to offer to the list. It would have to be palletized to ship. It has no
keyboard, monitor or mouse. I can provide more information if anyone is
interested.
I have an Apollo 570 that I would like to part with. It is the intermediate
machine between the 660 line and the 3000 series (550, 570, 580 , etc.) It is
a large undercounter cabinet with a 19" monitor, mouse and keyboard. I
believe it is a 68020 machine with 1 1/2 meg of Ram. Again I can provide more
information if anyone is interested. It was running when put in storage a
couple of years ago.
It would have to be palletized for shipping, which I can do.
Please contact me at Whoagiii(a)aol.com. I have been busy enough it is
difficult to keep up with the list.
Paxton
Portland, OR
On June 15, Zane H. Healy wrote:
> This is a test message. Trying to find out if my ISP has their DNS back :^(
nslookup and dig are you friends, Zane. ;)
-Dave McGuire
> > > Are DN300's or a DN330 of any interest?
> > >
> > > The DN3XX machines have a nice external drive box that features a
half-height
> > > 8-inch floppy, probably DSDD. I have a number of these, along with the
8 inch
> > > winchester disks.
> >
> > Aren't they a little old and slow?
>
> So are most of us on this board. What's your point?
My name is Oblio, and I don't have to have a point to have a point.
;-)
-dq
This is a test message. Trying to find out if my ISP has their DNS back :^(
Zane
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> The DN3010 I have running now is very minimal in terms of
> hardware. It has a 19 inch monitor and mouse and that's
> about it. At one point I thought I was going to acquire
> a DN10000. That arrangement never went through.
I'd like one of these, as well...
> I don't have any detail on the DN3500's being shipped
> here. I will know the condition when I open up the box.
I look forward to your report!
> It would be nice to have AutoCAD. Hopefully, there will be
> something cool on one of the 7 machines.
-dq
> Are DN300's or a DN330 of any interest?
>
> The DN3XX machines have a nice external drive box that features a
half-height
> 8-inch floppy, probably DSDD. I have a number of these, along with the 8
inch
> winchester disks.
Aren't they a little old and slow?
> What about the DN660? (thats a cool Apollo!) Plays an
> awesome game of battle zone!
>
> Or the DN3000, DN3500, DN4000 style machines?
I've got a DN2500 and two 425t stations that can connect to it.
I haven't had time to dig deeply enough to determine
whether it has any games on it or not. I have a full
set of Domain/OS 10.4 tapes, but 10.4.1 is running on
it now.
I've been able to rrad and write to both my 8mm drive
and a DC600-type cartridge drive. But tere doesn't seem
to be a way to write boot tapes on the 8mm, and although
I can write boot tapes on the cartridges, I can seem to
boot from them.
I'd like to be certain I've got a really complete backup
before I start messing around with it too much.
I have one Apollo monitor, one HP; the 3 machines all
have Ethernet cards, but the Apollo Token Ring cards
and switchboxes and cables all came with the systems.
I have three of the newer-styled keyboards and mice
for them (the original Logitech Mouse), but the DN2500
originally had a different keyboard. The DN2500 is
missing the little door that closes over the service
panel.
I have no printed documentation, and would really like
to have some.
I also downloaded all the patches from HP's web site
as they've implied the site will soon disappear.
Feel free to drop me a message privately if you want
to chat.
Regards,
-doug quebbeman
Hi.
I am here every workday, though I am not a frequent
contributor compared to many others.
If you want to see something of my collection, check
http://home.12move.nl/~sh416008
I uploaded yesterday some new stuff, mainly PDP-11/34A.
As many others, the site is under construction.
Groeten / kind regards
Henk Gooijen
Nederweert-Eind
The Netherlands
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Staniewicz [mailto:wstan@localhostnl.demon.nl]
> Sent: dinsdag 12 juni 2001 22:45
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Any Dutch/Belgium Collectors ?
>
>
> I have just begun collecting the Apollo's (Domain/OS).
> Right now have a DN3010 with several DN3500's on the way
> soon. Originally I am from the US so not a native here.
>
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 03:33:15PM +0200, Stefan wrote:
> > Are there any Dutch or Belgium collectors here that I don't
> know yet ?
> > Just curious :) Think I know most of them, but hey, you
> never know ;)
>
>
> --
> Bill William Staniewicz
> Amsterdam, NL
>
>
All,
Encompass sent me my "Encompass Membership ID" by email last night.
(I'm a new member.) Next week I'll try to license my CD for the VAX.
The wheels do turn, if slowly.
- Mark
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, John Allain wrote:
>
> > Yeah, that guy was Tom Perera, and he's like the Behemoth bike guy,
> > Steve Roberts... They're both legendary and are 'no can miss' when
> > they show at your Flea. I've seen Tom in Boston so he gets around.
> > Maybe they both should put out tour schedules!
>
> By the way, Steve Roberts' bike is in the Computer Museum History Center
> now. He wrote a book about his travels called "Computing Across America".
> I just scored another copy of it (autographed :) at a thrift store.
Steve started out (well, he may have started elsewhere) in Louisville,
Kentucky, where he ran a business called CyberTronics, an electronics
parts place. They sold some kits, like S-100 boards too, but I was
buying parts to build my SOL-PC. It's been fun to keep track of his
travels over the years.
-dq
On 2001-06-14 classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org said to kees.stravers(a)iae.nl
>> I remember someone asking about loading software over a serial line
>Thinking I had on the subject is that it would be trivial,
>given the 11's console abilities (set address, deposit byte)
>to take machine code and have a PC program turn it into a
>stream of Deposit instructions, heck it could be a 'vi' macro.
You might want to take a look at VTserver, a program used to install
Ultrix-11 on an empty PDP-11 via the console port and one regular
serial line. The source is available.
ftp://minnie.tuhs.org/pub/PDP-11/Vtserver/
A WIN32 version of VTserver is at
http://users.safeaccess.com/engdahl/software.htm
The program is still very much in development.
Kees.
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(Mirrors: http://vaxarchive.khubla.com/ and http://vaxarchive.sevensages.org/)
Net-Tamer V 1.08.1 - Registered
Hi Sean.
> --- snip ---
> 1. Does anyone have the pinouts for the serial line connector
> on the DL11 board?
I can check at home. My 11/34A console is connected by a self-made
connector. Just a few wires. Which DL11 board do you have?
M7800, M7800-YA or M7856?
AFAIK, the M7856 is most common.
> 2. Does anyone know what that BM873-YJ board is? I'm just curious.
My guess it is an M873 variant.
In that case it possibly contains boot ROMs.
> 3. What would be the best way to get this old system running
> again? I've got no interface to that RX02 drive, and even ....
I would opt for:
- an RX02 with the M8256
- an RL02 with the M7762
> I remember someone asking about loading software over a serial line?
Sorry. No experience with that.
I will report back tomorrow, as promised, unless somebody else already
told how to connect the console.
-- Henk.
PS. You may find some info on the 11/34(A) on my website.
Click on the 11/35 console.
http://home.12move.nl/~sh416008
Hello Sean.
Ok. I'm back.
Sorry for the silly question of which DL11 board you have.
You mentioned it in the board list. Anyway, here's how I
have connected the M7856 to a VT220 (EIA, RS-232C).
+------------------+
|.(B) ...... (VV).| |/
|.(A) ..... (UU).| |
=====================================================|\
==
(viewing the edge of the M7856 where the BERG connected is)
The lower righthand side pin (closest to the board is A.
Right above it is pin B. At the lower lefthand side, the pin
closest to the board is UU, and above it is VV.
Then, the alphabet on the BERG connector is as follows.
B D F J L N R T V X Z BB DD FF JJ LL NN RR TT VV
A C E H K M P S U W Y AA CC EE HH KK MM PP SS UU
The following wires run from the BERG connector to the DB25
connector I have at home (forgot to write down if it is male
or female). Also, because I made it fit to a longer wire with
DB25's at both ends it *_might_* be a null-modem cable....
BERG DB25
===================
VV | 7
DD | 20
V | 4
J | 2
F | 3
Further, a small wire connects (E) to (M) on the BERG connector.
BTW. My 11/35 has an BM872. It is a boot card (dual) with diodes
on it to form a matrix addresslines/datalines. So, you can solder
your bootstrap program's zeroes and ones in real hardware :)
Success,
Henk.
was looking over your list of "old computers"...
I worked for Visual Technology/Ontel Corporation from 1983 - 1987. Visual
made two computer products. The V-1050 and the Commuter Computer.
The V-1050 was identical to the Ontel Amigo, but with a different case and
like the Amigo, it ran CP/M. The Amigo ran CP/M 2.2. The V-1050 ran
CP/M-Plus (3.3). The Visual unit, like the Amigo, could support a 5 or 10MB
HD located in an external unit. The drive was connected by a centronics to
centronics cable. The 1050 had two high density floppy drives. I don't
remember how many drives the Amigo supported.
The Commuter Computer was an IBM PC Compatible unit that came with MS-DOS
2.2. These units shipped with a maximum of 512k of ram and a 25 line LCD
display.
This is a great list. It's hard to believe how many companies have changed/
folded over the past twenty years.
John
At long last (three years since V1.28), new version of PUTR.COM is now
available from:
http://www.dbit.com/putr/
-or-
ftp://ftp.bit.com/pub/putr/
PUTR (Peripheral Utility Transfer Routines) is a file transfer utility which
runs under DOS (or in a DOS session) and can exchange files and/or disk images
with DEC file systems and/or media. It has a simple command language which
feels sort of like a stripped-down DOS command interpreter, but extended so
that files on PDP-8 and/or PDP-11 volumes may be accessed the same way as
native DOS files, using familiar commands like DIR, TYPE, COPY, DELETE, etc.
It also can perform more basic functions, like formating DEC-style floppies,
and copying container files to or from real disks.
It supports most of the major PDP-8 and PDP-11 file structures (although the
Files-11 support is currently read-only), and a bunch of minor ones too.
Volumes may be located in PC container files, on PDP-8/PDP-11 floppies (most
DEC formats, including SSSD 8" disks on a suitably equipped PC), raw SCSI
drives (including Zip and MO), TU58 cartridge tapes (connected through a COM
port), and raw CDs.
As always, MAKE A BACKUP OF YOUR DATA BEFORE USING PUTR ON IT. PUTR V2.0 has
many brand new features which have been tested by only one person, so you may
find ways to trip it up that I wouldn't have thought of, and in any case it
always makes sense to be unusually cautious when writing on a foreign file
system. You have been warned!
New features since previous version (V1.28, 06/11/1998):
* Reads Files-11 disks (RSX, IAS, P/OS).
* Reads TSS/8.24 disks.
* Reads/writes RSTS/E disks (RSTS support was read-only in V1.28).
* Reads/writes DOS/BATCH disks.
* Reads/writes XXDP+ disks.
* Reads/writes TSS/8 DECtapes in PUTR.SAV format (but not COPY.SAV format).
* Many new disk drive types (RAxx, RDxx, RMxx, RPxx).
* Image file sizes over usual 2 GB DOS limit (on FAT32 systems only), up to
(almost) 4 GB.
* Raw CD-ROMs may be accessed through MSCDEX (used to support SCSI CDs only),
on real DOS anyway (Windows 95/98 MSCDEX emulation is buggy).
* FORMAT /MSCP command now accepts BLOCKS, MB etc. keywords in file size (so
you don't need a calculator to convert blocks to bytes).
* Bugs fixed.
----------
Also, a new version of the "ST.EXE" SCSI tape utility is now at:
ftp://ftp.dbit.com/pub/ibmpc/util/st.exe
-and-
ftp://ftp.dbit.com/pub/ibmpc/util/st.txt
This is a simple utility for manipulating SCSI tapes, including DEC TZ30 and
TK50Z-GA tape drives, SCSI 9-track drives, and other tapes with 9-track-ish
semantics, like DLT or 4 mm DAT. It provides many of the same basic commands
as the UNIX "mt" utility (space N records in either direction, write a tape
mark, rewind, etc.), but also has IGET and IPUT commands which copy between a
real tape, and a tape image file in Ersatz-11's format (which is also used by
some other emulators).
Changes since V1.0:
* IGET and IPUT now take an optional record length parameter.
If this value is specified, then the image file is assumed *not* to contain
blocking information and all bytes are treated as data, at the specified
fixed record length (so it works like the UNIX "dd" utility).
* Source code is now available.
John Wilson
D Bit
Hi all.
Yes, I enjoy making trades with a lot of people on classiccmp...I have done
many and given away a lotta stuff too...I make friends and contacts and the
stuff gets delivered to my door and I dont spend long days hunting in garage
sales and flea markets....
I see a lot of posts of people offering stuff lately and I think this is
great...
Would this be a good idea having a kinda "central classiccmp collector
trader list site" where people could post their trade/wish lists in a
"standard format" and this could be searched by location, parts, interests
and such? Would this not be a good way of encouraging trades and help people
complete machines and find parts...?
Would there be enough people interested?
Who has the will, time, knowledge and web space? Anyone?
Claude
http://www.members.tripod.com/computer_collector
Hi
I have an old Spigot video capture Mac nubus card and have no software or
manuals. I think the software was called Screenplay.
I looked at the radiusvintage site and I cant find it anywhere. Anybody can
help me on this?
Claude
http://www.members.tripod.com/computer_collector
I have the following bits 'n piece of NeXT Cube/NeXT equipment
available to interested parties. You can have what you like for the
cost of shipping, or an even swap for any items on my want list:
NeXT
----
1 rear cover for 030 cube (ie. "NeXT Computer") with original fan (ie.
spins backward), will fit on all Cubes
3 screws for rear cover
3 slot-covers (I know someone needs some of these =)
1 Complete set of upper and lower card tracks
1 Cube Logo for front of case (good condition)
3 rubber feet for Cube bottom with screws
4 dowels (these hold the three sections of the
Cube together).
1 Backplane, working
1 3-meter monitor cable (one end is loose), working
1 Optical drive, working
3 030 System boards with various RAM configuration and
batteries, none have NBIC chips, all working
1 Refurbished power supply with center tower, working,
clean.
1 ADB keyboard, no cord, good cosmetic condition,
good for replacement key caps.
2 NON-ADB keyboards, working, poor cosmetic condition,
logo good condition
1 NON-ADB mouse, working, poor cosmetic condition, logo
good condition
2 screws for front bezel
NON-NeXT/misc.
--------
1 Complete Digiboard EISA Xem with 8-port ports module,
cable, loopback plug, manuals and software. Working,
complete, never used. This would be great to connect
a bunch of old PC's to a UNIX server, for BBS, terminals,
etc. Works with Linux, SCO, NT, etc.
1 Digiboard Classicboard 4 port, no cable (new)
1 Digiboard Classicboard 8 port, no cable (new)
1 IBM Logo manual in linen-bound yellow binder (has some
marks and glue on slipcover), missing disk.
1 IBM MS-DOS 2.10 manual, missing disks
Viking 56K external hardware modem, AC adapter, and manuals.
My want list:
-------------
IBM PC 360K full height floppy drives
IBM PC floppy controllers
IBM PC monochrome monitor/printer cards
IBM PC CGA cards
IBM PCjr internal modems & cables
IBM PCjr cartridge BASIC and manuals
IBM PC power supply
Any interesting PCjr sidecards, sans. memory expansion
sidecard
Any PCjr expansion unit type addon that has a second
floppy drive and more memory (working, complete)
IBM PCjr chiclet keyboards
AST Sixpack or similar multi-function cards for IBM PC
SCREWS! I need any kind of screws for the PC - chassis,
expansion card, floppy drives, etc.
IBM PC's you no longer want, with some of the items
above. Working or not, need for parts, will pay shipping.
NeXT 2.88MB/OD front bezels for Cube
Lisa Keyboard
Mounting hardware for floppies (Cube) and NeXT floppy cables
(Cube)
One set of rubber "rollers" for the front feet of the NeXT
N7000 monitor
One set of rear feet for the rear of the NeXT N7000 monitor
Ultra2 LVD SCSI cables for 3+ drives, needs to be new
If you want to trade, drop me a line off the list and we'll
talk.
- Jeff