- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Dave Peters <petersd(a)SEDSystems.ca> wrote: > provides an ethernet interface but I am wondering > where I could find TCP/IP compatible software > for microVMS 4.6. I know multinet exists for > openVMS but I have my doubts about it working with > this old a version or VMS. any ideas about this approach? Multinet's been through two changes of corporate ownership since then (TGV, Cisco, Process Software). You could try asking the folks at Process Software but I would be surprised if they were able to help. There's also the CMU TCP/IP, which is available on the net. It was always explained to me as something that would put hair on your palms but that could be because I worked at Wollongong. I have been mostly successful at avoiding direct personal experience of VMS since 1991 or so, so don't have any personal experience with it. All that said, a little bit of webulating put me at <http://www.agh.cc.kcl.ac.uk/files/vms/cmu-tcpip/oldversion/> where you can find a version that claims to support VMS 4.4 to 4.7. -Frank McConnell

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Old stuff found + help identifying...

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Joe and Carlos Actually I have two or three of the complete systems. And the cables and power bricks to go with them. I probably have 6-10 power bricks and ables to connect them to the modules. I also have the cables to connect terminals to the systems. The systems use x-bus to link the modules, they run CTOS, and were built by Unisys, Datapoint, Concurrent Technologies.. Pointer to FAQ about CTOS. www.cs.ruu.nl/wais/html/na-dir/computer/system/unisys/ctos.html I'll give them to you if you pay shipping from Kansas City. Mike >>A few days ago one of the storage rooms at the university >>was cleaned up and I grabbed all the computer-related stuff >>that I could. Not a lot of variety, though. Besides >>from the wintel carcasses and Mac plus remains, I found >>one Datapoint 1550 and several modules from a type system that >>I have never seen. The cpu, floppy disk drives and graphics >>modules snap onto each other's side very neatly. There are >>several of these systems, with the corresponding monitors and >>keyboards. Alas, the only power supply unit that I found >>is incomplete and badly damaged. Do you guys have some >>info about these systems? > Carlos, > I've seen a couple of systems made by Concurrent that look like >those. I think the Concurrents use a power supply brick that puts out >something like 36VDC. The power supplies seem to be scarce, i've only seen >one of them. I don't know anything else about the Concurrent systems, sorry.

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VMS Condist for $10 act now

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

<http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1251192956> Won't last the evening ... --Chuck

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HP Portable Vectra CS Model 20

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

I recently found an HP Portable Vectra CS Model 20 on top of a garbage container in the alley. I'm offering it to anyone who will pay for shipping (weighs about 15-20 pounds) or who can pick it up in Chicago. It lacks the battery pack, which apparently is where the external power (also missing) plugs in, so I do not know if it works. Otherwise, it appears to be in good condition. It has one 3.5" floppy and a hard drive of unknown size. Reply to Robert_Feldman(a)jdedwards.com. Bob Feldman

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data migration

by hofmanwb＠worldonline.nl

Enrico A crude but effective way is to connect a PC to a serial line of the DPS6. Dump whatever you have to dump to the serial line in HEX or oct format. Run a VT100 emulator on the PC and log whatever you receive to disk. Write a small program to convert the log file to the original information. The dumping process may take days, but you could start it on Friday afternoon and collect the data on Monday morning. Wim ---------- From: Enrico Naso <enrinaso(a)tin.it> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: data migration Date: Thursday, June 28, 2001 7:53 PM J need to migrate data from a 3M DC600A Data Cartridge(60Mb) backed up from an internal tape onto a Honeywell Bull DPS6-Plus to any PC-compatible media-support. This means Floppy, Zip, cd-rom, ecc.) thank for your attention Enrico Naso

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Whats a reasonable collection?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On June 28, Iggy Drougge wrote: > >Is it possible that maybe the existence of .ADF and .INF files is just a > >brain-damaged Microsoft OS requirement? > > Nope, it's a braindead IBM/PC industry requirement. Hmm...need them on EISA Alphas too, unfortunately. -Dave McGuire

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PDP-11/53 jumper doc found

by engdahl＠cle.ab.com

I guess there must have been only one copy of the 11/53 CPU board manual left in the world, and Giorgio Ungarelli had it in Switzerland. He sent me a copy, and I will eventually get this information up on my web site. It is a supplement to the MicroPDP-11/73 manual. It documents the baud rate, boot, and halt option jumpers, etc. for the older version of the KDJ11-DA, the one with only .5 meg of RAM on board, and the CPU in the center. I've got one of these boards, and a couple of the newer ones (KDJ11-SD). I'm sure that once we know what the jumpers do, we can figure out where they got moved on the newer boards. I think the reason the board won't boot when you don't have a front panel is that the boot option inputs float to "15", which is "manufaturing test loop". -- Jonathan Engdahl Rockwell Automation Principal Research Engineer 24800 Tungsten Road Advanced Technology Euclid, OH 44117 USA Euclid Labs http://users.safeaccess.com/engdahl

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adding MSCP driver to 2.9BSD

by engdahl＠cle.ab.com

I took the MSCP disk driver (the ra driver) from the PRO-350 version of 2.9BSD on the PUPS archive, and added it to the regular 2.9 distribution. The new UNIX builds and runs. I created nodes in /dev, and added a line to /etc/dtab, but the driver doesn't seem to work. I have figured out that the autoconfig will not work with this driver. It reports "No autoconfig routines". Evidently, probe is not implemented in either the 2.9 or 2.11 version of the MSCP driver. So, how to I get UNIX to "attach" the ra driver? This is the first time I've tried doing a UNIX sysgen, so extra explanations might be required. The only documentation I have is what I downloaded along with the distribution. -- Jonathan Engdahl Rockwell Automation Principal Research Engineer 24800 Tungsten Road Advanced Technology Euclid, OH 44117 USA Euclid Labs http://users.safeaccess.com/engdahl

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1% (was Re: Looking for info - En-link Ethernet card for the Apple II)

by gareth.knight＠btinternet.com

Iggy wrote: <In England, yes. We have 1 pound coins, 2 pound coins (introduced >relatively recently)> The two pound coins have been available in limited quantity since the mid-1980s. I remember a teacher at my infants school showing one to the class. I'm not sure of the exact year, sometime around 1985. Gareth Knight

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Whats a reasonable collection?

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

Hi Dan. > On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > > Zorro is Zorro. All Amigas that have an expansion bus (not sure about > the > > A600/CDTV/CD32...) do AUTOCONFIG. The difference is that the A1000 and > A500 > > have an 86-pin expansion bus that isn't identical to Zorro, but there > are > > simple adapters to give you one or two true Zorro slots. Even the A590 > > is a true AUTOCONFIG device > > Got my A2000 in 7th or 8th grade - used it until the end of college. So > Zorro II in there, and Zorro III on the 3000/4000... where's Zorro I? > That's the 86 pin on the A500 and A1000 Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service.

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Xerox 820

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

>Thousands of these were sold as bare boards with limited doc's. I >frequently ran into folks using them, yet never saw one in the original >Xerox enclosure. The Xerox box was just too expensive. Once they were no >longer a major product, they were surplussed out as bare boards. I think it >was through BG Micro. > I got several of the bare boards in a lot of XEROX stuff that bought several years ago. Haven't looked in those boxes in a long time but if I recall correctly, the DOCS were *minimal*. If someone really wanted them, I'd be willing to part with the boards. SteveRob >----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Beaudry" To: Sent: Thursday, June >28, 2001 9:12 AM Subject: Xerox 820 > > > > Hello all, > > Recently I acquired a Xerox 820, but as a single board, >w/ power supply. I > also received many docs (including a tech manual with >Monitor listings and > schematics). I know originally these were >"all-in-one" computers, but many > appear at ham fests in exactly the same >shape as mine -- as a single board > computer. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Cruel Fates & The Exidy Sorcerer

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 28, 10:58, David Williams wrote: > I just received an email from someone who just threw away 3 > working Exidy Sorcerer's because they thought they'd never hear > anything about them ever again. THEN they found my website. > The fates mock me. :-( :-( Give me their address so I can go round and "re-educate" them > Well the good news is they may still have some Sorcerer > newsletters they produced which I've asked to place on the site so > I guess it isn't all bad. US, UK, or other European? BTW, I'm still looking for a (photo)copy (or PDF) of the manual for the WP Pac, docs and/or ROMs (images will do) for the DEV PAC, and a working copy of pacman (mine is corrupt). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Classic busses (was Re: Whats a reasonable collection?)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On June 28, Roger Ivie wrote: > It may be most, but it's definitely not all of them, even if you restrict > yourself to DEC options. In addition to the DEC VMEbus adapter I mentioned > in another message, there was also an A.Open (I think that's the name; the > mutilation of I2C DEC used for keyboards and mice on the 5000/25) adapter. > I know DEC did some serial ports, although I don't think they sold them; > when I asked for info on doing serial port drivers for Ultrix, they > dredged up code for a TURBOchannel serial interface from the bowels > of some Ultrix lab. There was also some audio interface they used as > an example implemenation in some paper somewhere. There are, I believe, one or two TC audio cards by DEC. I also have a TC HPIB interface by National Instruments. -Dave McGuire

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X-10 (was Re: controlling power)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On June 26, Richard Erlacher wrote: > communication via the power mains, isn't it? My notion to date has been that > the X-10 stuff is a mite costly, considering that one could hook up a triac, an > MOC30-something isolated triac driver, and a PIC, e.g. one of the 14-pin or > even 8-pin parts, and put the thing in the box with the switch. Costly? A 300W dimmer module costs like nine bucks. When I add up the price of the components required to duplicate that, I have trouble figuring out where they're making a profit. They're all PIC-based, by the way...the modern dimmer modules contain 12c508 chips. > It would be an interesting job, actually, though the MCU would be largely > wasted. It's smaller than an equivalent set of CMOS logic, though. Well, the 12c508 is a *tiny* processor with a *tiny* control store... -Dave McGuire

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Xerox 820

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Hello all, Recently I acquired a Xerox 820, but as a single board, w/ power supply. I also received many docs (including a tech manual with Monitor listings and schematics). I know originally these were "all-in-one" computers, but many appear at ham fests in exactly the same shape as mine -- as a single board computer. Of course, hooking a terminal up to it produces nothing (even testing at different baud rates/parity/stop bits, etc), so I'm wondering: - Are there any modifications (ROM or jumpers) to "convert" this to use the serial port for a console, rather than the keyboard and video display? I couldn't find anything in my docs, but of course, I have not read them in depth yet. In return, I could offer copies of the docs, or thanks to 22NICE and my Compaticard (thanks Don!), copies of the files on the diskettes (CP/M, "Word Processor", "Diagnostics", "Training Files" and "Program Files"), or images of the disks (assuming Teledisk could do it -- I haven't tried that yet). The disks are 5.25", SSSD Thanks! Rich B.

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HP2748A papertape reader : connector ?

by lance＠costanzo.net

At 11:57 PM 6/28/01 +0100, you wrote: >> >> >> A recent dumpster dive yielded a HP2748A papertape reader. Does anyone have >> the interface spec's for this device handy ? > >I know the unit (I have one somewhere), but I've never found out much >about it..... A google search led me to Jeff Moffatt's web site. http://oscar.taurus.com/~jeff/2100/index.html He has a "yellow file box" containing the info on the interface card that goes in the 21xx series. Old HP docs are pretty good about describing the interface signals and cables.

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Whats a reasonable collection?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > > Wow, I didn't know Peddle designed MCA. What else did he do (besides the > > > Nor did I... Are you sure??? > > I'm kind of surprised myself. Senility set in for me well before my current age of 44, so I could be wrong.... what i can be sure of is that the name of the MCA designer was a very familiar name to me as a micro enthusiast. > > > 6502 and the PET)? > > > The Sirius/Victor 9000 ? > > Yep, that was him. Ah, still neeed a Victor 9000 for the collection... -dq

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A little HP9877 info

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

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2 awesome days of awesome finds!

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

It seems the classic computer gods have been smiling on me this week... Yesterday I went to a scrapyard I hadn't been to in a while, was thinking same stuff as before, then I saw some MicroVAX II's.. Not terribly exciting, but new... And then I turned around, and nearly peed my pants: A TI 990 with a TI FD1000 floppy disk system! And then I found a 2nd one... Both are 990/5's, one in the 5-slot chassis and one in a 13.. And I found 2 more empty chassis that will need some help, but are definetly rebuildable... And I paid less for all 4 and the 2 FD1000's than one empty chassis sold for on Ebay! Once I got the stuff unloaded, I was feeling brave, so I plugged in one of the CPUs and turned it on.. and... IT WORKED! Anyway, today I went by another surplus place I frequent, and they said "Oh, we have a bunch of DEC docs for you" So I walked back and there were 4 racks of PDP-11 stuff.. 3 DECDatasystems (11/23-based), each with dual RL02s (one rack may have RL01's), a 4th rack with an RL02 and a Fujitsu M2312K, 32 disk packs, including a pair with RSX-11+ 4.0 on them, manuals for a DECmate (VT278), all the software for the DECmate, the manuals for the DECdatasystems, and some handbooks... Also when I was at the scrapyard on Monday, a guy who saw me load my car asked me about the stuff, I told him about my museum plans, and he gave me his business card and told me to call a person at where he works and he said that "they could fill my pickup" with minicomputers! I now own 10 minis with blinkenlights.. and only 1 of them is DEC! YAY! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Apple II programming intro?

by owad＠applefritter.com

I have a bunch of Apple IIe's I'm planning to give away to kids locally, but not really any software for them, so they'll probably only be used for BASIC programming. Does anybody know of a short guide to programming in BASIC (ideally on the Apple II) that I could print out and include with these systems? Thanks, Tom Applefritter www.applefritter.com

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Classic busses (was Re: Whats a reasonable collection?)

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

> Take a look at the following for a good list of TurboChannel cards (this is > most if not all of them). > > http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/pmax/models.html It may be most, but it's definitely not all of them, even if you restrict yourself to DEC options. In addition to the DEC VMEbus adapter I mentioned in another message, there was also an A.Open (I think that's the name; the mutilation of I2C DEC used for keyboards and mice on the 5000/25) adapter. I know DEC did some serial ports, although I don't think they sold them; when I asked for info on doing serial port drivers for Ultrix, they dredged up code for a TURBOchannel serial interface from the bowels of some Ultrix lab. There was also some audio interface they used as an example implemenation in some paper somewhere. Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

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Classic busses (was Re: Whats a reasonable collection?)

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

> >Turbochannel is the bus I've seen most often with DEC RISC workstations, > >although I think they were not the only vendor to use it. The MIPS boxes > >and the early Alpha boxes were Turbochannel. Mostly, it was used for > >frame buffers, but I think there were one or two non-graphic Turbochannel > >cards. > > I know that there have been at least TC VME expansion chassis, an FDDI > adaptor, SCSI and Ethernet. A company I used to work for produced a VME expansion chassis, serial ports, parallel ports, T1, MIL-STD-1553, a real-time clock, and did some initial work on IEEE-488. I was the only device driver guy, and I supported most of these (exceptions being VME (supported by DEC) and IEEE-488 (DEC did a device driver, but I was too busy to document and package it; had I not been too busy, _I_ would have written the driver to begin with) under Ultrix, OSF/1, Alpha/VMS, and VAX/VMS. I did a device driver for one of the modules under MIPS/OSF/1, but that never went anywhere because DEC pulled the plug on that OS (I do have tapes somewhere, though). I did some work with another company's TC QBus expansion chassis and I designed the TC adapter for the VAXstation 4000/60 and /90. I'm aware of other TC VMEbus expansion chassis (DEC had one, as did Bit3), other serial and parallel ports (Magma), and several other options. TURBOchannel was very easy to interface to; the bus interface on most of our options consisted of a rank of registered bus transceivers and a PAL22V10. I once built a bus torture device from a rank of registered bus transceivers and an AM29CPL154; with only those five parts, I could exercise the entire bus protocol, including determining the maximum DMA burst length. PCI, on the other hand, requires some pretty complex state machines. Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

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Anybody good at disassembly????

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Gene Ehrich wrote: > > > I remember back in the early days at IBM right before the 360 was announced > > that they were talking in the industry of the possibility of a > > disassembler. Most people poo-poo'd it as impossible. Datamation magazine > > had a cartoon with a picture of a machine labeled disassembler with a > > conveyer belt on each side. A worker was feeding cans of applesauce into > > the machine and on the other side apples were coming out. > > Maybe hindsight is always 20/20, but I don't see why machine code > disassembly would be viewed as an impossible task? I mean, weren't people > able to look at hex or octal dumps and translate them into the > corresponding mnemonics? This generally isn't a task that requires a high > IQ, it's basically a simple lookup operation. Hell, the problem is better > suited to computer based solutions than it is to people doing it. People still *are* able to look at octal dumps; but since my arms got shorter, all the numbers blend together. So, since I don't think my arms will get longer any time soon, I wrote a dissassembler. Using an unfinished simulator that handles the instruction decoding and welding it into a dump utility that translates from the CDC 60-bit words of Display Code (6-bit character set) gave me a useful disassembler. Technically, it's not a disassembler, rather, it's just an opcode dump. I need to add a scripting ability that I can use to specify data areas that should not get tramslated into opcodes. Funny thing, when I first started doing this 25 years ago, I did just take an octal dump and disassemble it by hand. Regards, -doug q

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Classic busses (was Re: Whats a reasonable collection?)

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

> Did any vendor besides DEC > ever use the turbochannel? The only system vendor I'm aware of is Kubota. There were, of course, many third-party options for TURBOchannel. Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

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FS/T/Free at VCF East or in PA

by owad＠applefritter.com

This is stuff I really need to get rid of, but really don't want to ship. It can be picked up in south-central PA (that would be wonderful!) or I can take it with me to VCF East. I'm willing to trade (list of things I'm looking for below), will accept cash (it takes up less space than computers), and some of this stuff I just want to get rid of (a number of Apple IIe's and Commodore 64's may very well end up in the trash unless somebody rescues them). Offers of $0 are welcome. I would have waited until closer to VCF, but some of this stuff may seriously end up in the trash. Unless otherwise noted, this stuff is untested/as is and probably not so much as touched by me. Stuff to be rid of: HP 150 w/9133 expansion unit (no kb) DEC 3000 - pizza box style, no RAM/HD, case could be nicer. Zenith Data Systems CP/M system (I didn't see a name, but its a cpu, kb, & monitor in one thing), dual 5.25" floppy drives, Corvus HD. I plugged it in, flicked the switch, and nothing happened. It occured to me there are other computers I'd rather be playing with and I haven't touched it since. CoCo 1's and 2's - no accessories and I'm not sure exactly what I have, definitely at least one CoCo 1 and I couldn't see the labels on the other two. I know they're not III's. DEC Thinwire Ethernet Multiport Repeater Zenith Data Systems laptops (3), 3.5" disk drives, clamshell design, very questionable condition (IIRC I had these all apart at one time), two external battery packs (certainly dead) TRS-80 printer selector interface, printer controller, modem IB, 2 "Mini Disk" 5.25" drives, a bunch of plastic covers for a TRS-80, printers, and drives (one of the drive covers has holes in it) Paradox - manuals and disks Infocipher receivers (3) Tandy Disk Cartridge System w/6 cartridges. It looks like its compatible with the "Bernoulli Box" cartridge system and some of the cartridges are made by Bernoulli (they're about 12"x8", plastic, and very light). This thing's pretty neat. several Commodore 64's, 4 disk drives, printer, cassette recorder, a mess of cables and a number of joysticks (part of mess), a couple of cartridges (incl a modem), a brand new replacement keyboard, a 6" stack of floppy disks, and a bunch of manuals. Apple IIe computers. ImageWriter I's. ImageWriter II's. Lots. Somebody, please take some of these! Mac LC 580's. 8MB RAM, 500MB HD's, ethernet cards, keyboards, mice. $20 apiece. $15 apiece w/out KB & mouse. ImageWriter II included free! ;) What I want: Apple & Mac clones Interesting Apple stuff PERQ/Alto/Star Canon Cat/Swyft Nutek One/Duet NeXT cube Apple II An operating system for a Micro PDP-11 that I can install off 5.25" disks a warehouse Tom Applefritter www.applefritter.com

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Whats a reasonable collection?

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 6/28/01 1:46:05 PM Central Daylight Time, mikeford(a)socal.rr.com writes: << >Only thing I don't like is a lack of fast SCSI cards. I have all kinds >of good scsi cards for my EISA computer, but not my Microchannel. I SCSI MCA cards are so common in the systems I find I don't bother to keep them anymore. Want to explain the above so I understand what to look for? >> there's plenty to choose from, scsi with or without cache, or you can even get some of the better scsi controllers out of the 9595 models. I have several non IBM MCA SCSI adaptors which Ive installed in some pre-existing SCSI-equipped PS2s just so I have a standard external connector to work with. Those IBM external cables are getting hard to find.

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Looking for info - En-link Ethernet card for the Apple II

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

>Just 'cuz ethernet cards are $9 now and mice sell for as little as $1 doesn't >mean they always did. You gotta remember the 1% rule (although it applies >more to systems than peripherals) - ten years later, you can get a computer >for 1% of its original purchase price. There are exceptions, of course, and >much later, say, twenty years, it's not as cheap as 1% anymore, but that's >due to scarcity and eBay fever. Not to mention that designing and producing a very low production board such as the ethernet board for the IIGS surely isn't cheap. The volume just isn't there to drive the price down. Michael Holley has finished the design of a new floppy controller for the SS-50 bus machines and has a few examples running and is testing them, but after paying for the fabrication of the PCB and the various chips and other parts, the finished board is costing nearly $100 in parts alone. I would imagine most on this list would balk at paying that much but it certainly would fill a void if you were in desperate need of a new floppy controller to get a machine up. Jeff

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Old stuff found + help identifying...Convergent boxes

by Innfogra＠aol.com

The Convergent (mini-engine, mini-frame was a nickname I believe) was a modular computer made up so small boxes locked together. I think it was sold mostly to the Government and the military. The first CPU module (B25) was an Intel 80186 processor. As technology grew they made units with 286 (B28) and 386 (B36) processors. I believe they ran a proprietary OS. I have the module description manual buried somewhere in storage since the move. They had single and dual floppies, single and dual HDs of several sizes, tape drives, mono & color graphics, even a PC emulator module. The module name is usually on the front. All of the power supplies were external 36 V with RJ type cables. They were different power capacities depending on the draw required by the module. I always thought they were cute but never got one up and running. Monitors and graphic modules need to match. You need the proprietary keyboard. They are password protected. Paxton Astoria, OR

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data migration

by enrinaso＠tin.it

J need to migrate data from a 3M DC600A Data Cartridge(60Mb) backed up from an internal tape onto a Honeywell Bull DPS6-Plus to any PC-compatible media-support. This means Floppy, Zip, cd-rom, ecc.) thank for your attention Enrico Naso

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Wanted: VT420/510 terminals (general interest, Dec gear in TX)

by mtapley＠swri.edu

>From: Curt Vendel <webmaster(a)atari-history.com> > >Anybody have two VT 320 or 420 or perhaps 510 terminals for sale??? See below, from austin.forsale a few days ago. If anybody needs/wants some of this, for shipping, I can try to arrange a pickup this weekend and ship next week, as I'll be in Austin on the weekend. Contact T. S. Murphy first to make sure it's still there, though. Curt, I suggest items 15. and 16., assuming they work together. BTW, what's the story with the kilobuck worth of NeXTs? I think I committed for one of them and have not heard from you yet. -Mark >From: "T. S. Murphy" <tsm(a)palindrome.org> >Subject: FS: DEC Computer Equipment >Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:45:06 -0500 >Organization: SBC Internet Services > >I have the following items for sale / give away. Will consider trading for >other DEC things. All items must be picked up in central Austin. Please >e-mail me at tsm(a)palindrome.org for more information. Thanks! > >1. Rackmounted MicroVAX II system (in H9642 cabinet). Can run VMS or NetBSD. >Weighs approximately 500 lbs. FREE. > >2. DECmate IIIplus computer. Base unit only. $1.00 > >3. PDP-11/53 computer (in BA23 chassis). Base unit only. $100. > >4. DEC Multia computer. 166 MHz Alpha 21066 processor. 64 MB RAM. 2.1 GB >SCSI disk. Integrated network, SCSI, graphics, etc. OpenVMS 7.2 installed, >but can run Linux, Windows NT, or Tru64. Base unit only. $125. > >5. DEC Multia computer. 166 MHz Alpha 21066 processor. 96 MB RAM. No disk. >Integrated network, SCSI, graphics, etc. Can run Linux, Windows NT, Tru64, >or OpenVMS. Base unit only. $125. > >6. DEC VAXstation 4000/60 computer. 8 MB RAM. No disk. Integrated SCSI, >network, graphics, etc. Base unit only. $50 > >7. DEC VAXstation 3100/M38-SPX computer. 20 MB RAM. No disk. Dual SCSI, >network, graphics, etc. Base unit only. $30 > >8. DEC VAXstation 3100. 4 MB RAM. No disk. The SCSI and/or network does not >work properly. Base unit only. FREE. > >9. applicationDEC 433MP computer. Very nice SCSI based backplane server, >supports up to four 486 processors (only one installed now). 16 MB RAM, 1GB >disk. FreeBSD installed; can run any PC operating system. Base unit only. >$10. > >10. DEC VRC16-HA monitor. Very nice monitor, works with DEC 3000 computer. >$25. > >11. DEC VR16O-DA monitor. Works with VAXstation 3100. $10. > >12. DEC VRT16-DA monitor. Works with VAXstation 4000. $10. > >13. DEC branded 14" SVGA monitor (goes very well with a Multia) $10 > >14. DEC branded PC keyboards: PCXLA-NA. (also goes well with a Multia) >several avialable new in box @ $5 > >15. DEC LK201 keyboards, several available @ $10 > >16. DEC VT220 & VT320 terminals with scratched screens (keyboard not >included). FREE

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FW: Silent 700 Model 707

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I picked up a TI Silent 700 model 707 recently (a nice, small variant > with built-in modem, see http://pobox.com/~fmw/misc/Silent700.jpg), > with hopes of converting to use as a direct line serial terminal. > > Before I open it up and poke around, does anyone already know how to > do this? Portwise, there are two RJ11 ports (phone&wall) and a 6-pin > acoustic coupler port of unknown pinout. I suspect it's possible, but I've left mine alone and instead sought other model Silent 700s for use as serial terminals. One of my 707s has the coupler; I'll see if I can't determine the pinout for you, but IIRC, the connector carries audio only. Regards, -doug q

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2 awesome days of awesome finds!

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Does a KA10 have blinkenlights or does it suck? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Whats a reasonable collection?

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 6/27/01 5:15:23 PM Central Daylight Time, mikeford(a)socal.rr.com writes: << >The last MCA I am aware of ran at 40MHz. Ran stupid fast at that clock >rate. I have some DX50 processor complexes, and a couple type 4 that run pentium 90 mhz I think. >> The p90 came in the server500 series. Theoretically, you can swap any CPU complex between the 85,90,95 and server 500 series machines. All you have to do is run the correct ref disk for the type complex you are using. (type 1,2,3 or 4)

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Old stuff found + help identifying...

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

No, not Concurrent. Close though.. You're thinking "Convergent". Concurrent makes minicomputers, never made anything small like the Convergent... Those are neat little systems : ) Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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2 awesome days of awesome finds!

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I saw a Modcomp front panel just the other day. Very nice > looking bit of kit, but it wasn't wired up to anything, so > no blinkenlights. > > > a Microdata, a CDC, a Prime, a Basic Four, a Bytronix, a > > Now a Prime would be nice, but the one I used 1981-85 at > Westfield College, London, was a P750 with (as far as I'm > aware) no lights or switches. Apart from the reset button, > which nearly got pressed by a visitor on a machine room > tour! The P400 was the last machine (well, maybe the 450?) that had a front panel. It was an interesting bump-out design, but wasn't really very cool looking, when compared to an Eclipse, or a KI-10, or hell, even a KL-10. My 2455 has a virtual control panel like the 750 did. If I had a real front panel, the damned thing might be running right now. Regards, -dq

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Cruel Fates & The Exidy Sorcerer

by dlw＠trailingedge.com

Argh!!! I just received an email from someone who just threw away 3 working Exidy Sorcerer's because they thought they'd never hear anything about them ever again. THEN they found my website. The fates mock me. :-( Well the good news is they may still have some Sorcerer newsletters they produced which I've asked to place on the site so I guess it isn't all bad. ----- "What is, is what?" "When the mind is free of any thought or judgement, then and only then can we know things as they are." David Williams - Computer Packrat dlw(a)trailingedge.com http://www.trailingedge.com

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VAX 6000 SYSTEMS

by icc_uk＠yahoo.com

Good afternoon i found some information that you have some vax 6000's machines for disposal, we are a dec/compaq reseller and are currently looking for the ups unit part no: h7236-a which you have listed, we would either echnage this for any equipment that you require or offer you the sum of $400 for these psu's, if this would work for you please let us know by return email thanks ===== Leon Wheeler I.C.C(International Computer Connections) Tel:+44(0)1937-840420 Direct Line Fax:+44(0)1937-840421 Email: Leon(a)icc4it.co.uk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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Versatec board (ID and claim it)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I have a board that describes itself as: > > VERSATEC > LSI 11 DIFF INTF > 22 BIT ADDRESS > G10-024898- > > I believe it is an interface to some sort of hard copy device. If > anyone wants it, it is theirs for the price of shipping. An interface for a Versatec Plotter... most likely one of the electrostatic variety (as opposed to their early dot-matrix models)... Do I win? -dq

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Request for those skilling in locating odd bits-

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

There are lots of surplus old x-ray equipment that is being disposed of by hospitals and clinics. Some is sent overseas. Maybe you could intercept some. There is some danger if it is used improperly. >Request for those skilling in locating odd bits- >> I am looking for a real x-ray generator- Modifying kitchen >>appliances or using thyratrons coated with magnesium won't due. I have >> x-ray tubes and all the rest, but the power supply is the toasted bit. >I recall an article in a late-50s/early-60s issue of Scientific >American that detailed the construction of an X-Ray machine. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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FW: Whats a reasonable collection?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Douglas Quebbeman skrev: > > >To round out that heterogeny, you need a set of Thomas-Conrad ARCNet > >cards (unless you can find 20Mbps-Datapoint cards), a passive hub, > >and a serial-port-based Token-ring network that uses software written > >in Russia. The Russian software lets you host drives that are actually > >shares from other machines! > > Why Thomas-Conrad in particular? Once widely available as surplus... > Is there some kind of 20Mb Arcnet version? Datapoint had a spec for 20MBs ARCnet; I don't know if anyone every implemented it. Too bad, at that speed it would have been superior to Ethernet until the 100Mbs era began (ARCnet uses CSMA/CA to avoid collisions, instead of CSMA/CD to detect them). > >You'll want to use a Mac to bridge Ethernet to Localtalk, if you > >can find the software... > > Or why not a Shiva box? Ooo, you got a Shiva box? Sexy! > >What else? > > Apollo Tokenring, FDDI... Got the Apollo, just don't have one with two slots so I can bridge the two networks yet... -dq

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Whats a reasonable collection?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Not senility but rather an afflication known as CRS or "Can't Remember > Shit" - I'm also 44 and it hits me regularly. Not old enough to have > indulged the "bad acid" of Woodstock but there is definitely a ton of crap > between my ears that occasionally has a problem in the recovery mode. :-) Yeah, CRS, that's the ticket... > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Douglas Quebbeman > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 5:50 AM > To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' > Subject: RE: Whats a reasonable collection? > > > Senility set in for me well before my current age of 44, so > I could be wrong.... what i can be sure of is that the name > of the MCA designer was a very familiar name to me as a micro > enthusiast. > -dq >

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Will the Owner of the Blue SGI Indy . . .

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

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Looking for info - En-link Ethernet card for the Apple II

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Mike Ford wrote: > > > Is there an active area for 6502 programmers, mailing list > > or usenet group? > > I think comp.sys.apple2.programmer (or something like that) > should still be around. > > > Two of my friends were real hotshots (Randy Hyde and Brian Fitzgerald) > > so I planned to bug them when I got started again, but it could be > > really picking cobwebs for both of them. I do still have a Apple II > > nicely decked out ready to run LISA, but I guess I should update to > > the version that fully used a IIgs. > > No assemblers for me...I program in hex! On toy computers maybe... *real* iron requires octal! (from one who is decoding octal dumps again) -dq

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Whats a reasonable collection?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > Not many know this, but Chuck Peddle, who designed MCA, also gave it > > legs to run up to 100MHz. However, I don't think IBM ever implemented > > an MAC bus at that speed. > > Wow, I didn't know Peddle designed MCA. What else did he do > (besides the 6502 and the PET)? As I said in another post, I could have this wrong, but the name of the MCA designer was for certain a very familiar name to me... and I don't hob-nob with engineers that much (just don't know any). Well, Gordon Bell and I have been swapping e-mails, but I wouldn't claim to *know* him. -dq

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Request for those skilling in locating odd bits-

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Ok, for what its worth, it's only the desk the Wang mounts in that is in the garage... And it is a 2200MVP.. Also, for what its worth, should anyone ever need it, I have the software for a MINC on the original floppies.. And I know where there are like 4 MINC racks (sans MINC, else I'd have a MINC rather than merely having most of the boards from one). Oh yeah, in other words I'd love to find a MINC : ) Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Slightly OT: Help? Apple CD 300 and VAX 4000 VLC

by mtapley＠swri.edu

Hello, Multiple apologies in advance: The peripherals are generally on-topic (and I think that's where my problem is), but the primary unit under investigation, the VAX, isn't until next year. Also, please forgive the long post. Finally, I'm in digest mode, so I'll respond slowly unless you cc me at mtapley(a)swri.edu . I'm trying to load OpenVMS Hobbyist (at last!) onto a VaxStation 4000 VLC. A lot is working, but something isn't. Here's what I have: VaxStation 4000 VLC 16 M Ram RZ26-L (1Gig) hard drive, no jumpers on terminator block, SCSI ID 1. S3 in up position Rainbow 100A, running Kermit on MS-DOS 3.11b, 9600/8/n/1 Offset-snap RJ11 DEC serial console cable, from VAX console connector to adaptor to DB25 at Rainbow COMM port 50pin M-M Centronics-type (off-brand) SCSI cable AppleCD 300 external (caddy-load) (can you see trouble coming right here?) SCSI ID = 2 External SCSI terminator. The SCSI is, if I'm correctly reading what RZ26 docs I have, terminated at the RZ26 and at the CD drive. (I know, this is not both "ends" of the cable. The RZ-26 is within about 10 cm. of the computer end of the cable.) I've tried the terminator-block jumper in all three positions (off, on one pair, on the other pair) on the RZ26, same results. I've also tried with and without the external terminator on the CD, same results. When I turn everything else on, load the CD caddy with the DEC Hobbyist VMS CD in place, then turn on the VAX, I see on the Rainbow (edited from the Kermit session log, esc/other special characters dealt with harshly by my text editor and me): KA48-A V1.3-343-V4.0 08-00-2B-2A-D7-1A 16MB |xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx| ?? 010 2 LCG 0086 ?? 001 9 NI 0172 ?? 121 10 SCSI 0034 >>> uh-oh. I'm *hoping* the LCG line means no monitor attached to the VAX graphics board (true, also no keyboard or mouse - yet), and the NI line means I'm not connected to a network (also true, so far). Anybody with a 4000 VLC owners' manual? The SCSI line worries me. (When I boot without the CD drive attached, or with the CD drive turned off, it does not appear.) If I then do SHOW CONFIG I see: KA48-A V1.3-343-V4.0 08-00-2B-2A-D7-1A 16MB DEVNBR DEVNAM INFO ------ -------- -------------------------- 1 NVR OK 2 LCG ?? 010 0086 HR - 8 PLN FB - V1.2 3 DZ OK 4 CACHE OK 5 MEM OK 16MB = S0/1=8MB, S2/3=8MB, S4/5=0MB 6 FPU OK 7 IT OK 8 SYS OK 9 NI ?? 001 0172 10 SCSI ?? 121 0034 1-RZ26L 2-CD-ROM 6-INITR 11 AUD OK >>> The SCSI system has correctly identified the addresses and types of the two drives on it - but still shows ??'s. (I can change the address at which INITR appears, using the SET SCSI command. No effect that I've noticed. Things were wierd when the CD-ROM SCSI ID and INITR were both set to 6.) If I then do SHOW DEV, the RZ26 spins up, starts clicking and clacking, and I see: VMS/VMB ADDR DEVTYPE NUMBYTES RM/FX WP DEVNAM REV ------- ---- ------- -------- ----- -- ------ --- ESA0 08-00-2B-2A-D7-1A ?33 UNXINT 010 00000002 041F0000 and the system seems to stop there. I can <BREAK> out back to the >>> prompt, but never get the info for either the RZ26 or the CD drive. (With no CD drive, I do see info (correct, as far as I can tell) for the RZ26.) I can repeat SHOW DEV and SHOW CONFIG with the same results. If I then enter BOOT DKA200 I see: ?02 EXT HLT PC= 2004ACA4 PSL= 041F0000 and that's about as far as it goes. I can still <BREAK> back to the prompt. *However*, if I shut down the VAX, Start back up, and at the first prompt, enter boot dka200 , the CD active light goes on and flickers as though it were being accessed, and the Rainbow shows: -DKA200 %SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT Mapping the SYSDUMP.DMP on the System Disk %SYSBOOT-W-SYSBOOT Can not map SYSDUMP.DMP on the System Disk %SYSBOOT-W-SYSBOOT Can not map PAGEFILE.SYS on the System Disk OpenVMS (TM) VAX Version X72T Major version id = 1 Minor version id = 0 PLEASE ENTER DATE AND TIME (DD-MMM-YYYY HH:MM) I enter 26-JUN-2001 and see: Configuring devices . . . Available device DKA100: device type RZ26L Available device DKA200: device type SONY CD-ROM CDU-8 %BACKUP-I-IDENT, Stand-alone BACKUP T7.2; the date is 26-JUN-2001 00:00:56.16 $ Up to here it matches pretty well with what the docs for the Hobbyist CD indicate. I enter BACKUP/IMAGE DKA200:VMS072.B/SAVE DKA100: and see: %SYSTEM-I-MOUNTVER, SABKUP$DKA200: is offline. Mount verification in progress. and that's all I see, at least for as long as I've had patience to watch. The CD active light is off from then on. When my patience runs out, I hit <Break> on the Rainbow, get a >>> prompt, and do SHOW DEV (same result as above), <Break>, SHOW CONFIG (same as above), and then SHOW DEV and I see: VMS/VMB ADDR DEVTYPE NUMBYTES RM/FX WP DEVNAM REV ------- ---- ------- -------- ----- -- ------ --- ESA0 08-00-2B-2A-D7-1A DKA100 A/1/0 DISK 1.05GB FX RZ26L 441T DKA200 A/2/0 RODISK 681.57MB RM WP CD-ROM 1.9a A/2/7 A/2/7 A/2/7 A/2/7 ..HostID.. A/6 INITR Now the SCSI system has identified the CD drive as a SONY and correctly read data from the CD (else how did it know that it was trying to load OpenVMS 7.2?)! Yet something is still, to quote the bard, "rotten in Denmark". I can't get (haven't gotten?) through the install sequence any farther than the accursed %SYSTEM-I-MOUNTVER. Out of decorum, I suppose I should say WITW? (What in the World?) but stronger language is what I have in mind. Clues would be well appreciated. I have not tried disassembling the SCSI drive - it seems to work OK with the NeXT, and with Macs (PB3400, Plus). I could do that, though. Help? In the absence of any clues, I'll probably take apart the CD300 to see if I can spot anything obviously misjumpered, then start hunting for a real DEC external CD drive. - Mark

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FW: Whats a reasonable collection?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> >Not everyone in the house needs a PC; I think I'm > >more happy with one PC in a central room where I can > > Hmmm, I was thinking of cutting down to about 50 computers, about half > networked and the other half as curiousities or spares. I have six areas > that each need a working mac and pc, (5) main servers each running > something different (Linux, NT, OS2, AppleShare (one 3.0.4 to boot IIgs > systems, and one running a newer IP version)), fun servers HP/ux on some > Apollo's, various on older macs and PCs), dedicated systems (scanner, > couple phone things, (2) CDR burners), various old systems running old > software. I want to have as many different kinds of segments on my network > as I can manage, which means running a model 95 OS/2 system to bridge > between 10bt and tokenring on twinax. To round out that heterogeny, you need a set of Thomas-Conrad ARCNet cards (unless you can find 20Mbps-Datapoint cards), a passive hub, and a serial-port-based Token-ring network that uses software written in Russia. The Russian software lets you host drives that are actually shares from other machines! You'll want to use a Mac to bridge Ethernet to Localtalk, if you can find the software... What else? -dq

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Jetform Central 5.0

by janet.meyer＠angelo.edu

Thought someone working with HP/UX would be interested.

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Whats a reasonable collection?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > I love microchannel equipment. 8-) > Not many know this, but Chuck Peddle, who designed MCA, also gave it legs to run up to 100MHz. However, I don't think IBM ever implemented an MAC bus at that speed. Regards, -doug q

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Intro and plotter question.

by melvin.williams＠varian.com

My name is Mel and I just found this list. I am currently trying to get a couple of pen plotters working. The first is a sweet pea six shooter. It runs the self test fine but I don't have the manual for it. I need to know about any cabling issues. The other is a mannesmann tally pixy 3 I have the manual for this one but it says nothing about the driver for it. Thanks for any help. Mel

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