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by Chloe.Meacher＠dtlr.gsi.gov.uk

Hello I have a Dynakit PAS-2 Stereo Preamp, a PAS-3, a FM-3, and a Dynakit Preamp Mark II. Looking at the instructions, some of them have dates written inside by my Dad, going back to early 1960's. I am looking to sell them and I am wondering what they are worth. THanks Chloe Meacher ********************************************************************* Department for Transport, Local Government and the Regions This E-mail and any files transmitted with it are private and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, the E-mail and any files have been transmitted to you in error and any copying, distribution or other use of the information contained in them is strictly prohibited. Nothing in this E-mail message amounts to a contractual or other legal commitment on the part of the Government unless confirmed by a communication signed on behalf of the Secretary of State for the DTLR. *********************************************************************

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More DEC doc scans up

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I've put the handbooks off for a while until I can decide on how I want to do them. Until then, MACRO-11, BATCH-11, and RSTS-11 brochures: http://www.decdocs.org/docs if anybody else has more stuff like this, please let me know. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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IBM AS/400(?) in Denver, CO

by terryf＠intersurf.com

I've got 2, 1 rode 200 miles in the back of my pickup and the other, I had shipped from LA to Baton Rouge by United Van Lines. No problems waking either one up, so I'm not too convinced of the "switch" Terry At 09:15 PM 7/11/01 -0500, you wrote: > > >The existence of the switch was in some of the manuals (the relevant >manual I seem to have chucked). I do recall that all that was required >was to call IBM for a new license, there did not seem to be anything to be >physically replaced. > >Paul > > >On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Chuck McManis wrote: > >> >> > > Are these the machines that contain a vibration switch so they can tell >> > > if they've been moved? and if so, the license becomes invalid? >> > >> >Jerome Fine replies: >> >What ever the IBM systems were that contained that feature, did >> >that mean that the original legal user could also not move his system >> >into another room? >> >> >> Of course not, legit owners had IBM field service move the hardware and >> field service replaced the vibration switch after it was moved. >> >> --Chuck >> >> > >-- >

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DEC DF108-RM

by ndiablo＠diablonet.net

As far as I know, these are probably just regular old modems, and slow ones at that (perhaps 300, 1200, 2400 baud). All the other DF devices that I have seen thus far have been modems. Like old, slow modems, they're really worth nothing unless someone is really into recreating an entirely authentic old system or has some sort of special interest in the hardware. --Sean Caron (root(a)diablonet.net) | http://www.diablonet.net

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IBM AS/400(?) in Denver, CO

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

At 09:47 PM 7/11/01 -0500, Paul wrote: >It could be >1) placed in the manual but never implemented >2) implemented only on certain machines (highest end 9406's or such?) The nice thing about being IBM was that they could and did do pretty much whatever they wanted to the hardware. At Sun we had a 43xx series that delayed the move of SunNET to building 14 because IBM _had_ to be the people to move the machine. Now they do insist even if there isn't anything tricky but the point in my initial response was that any type of "license assurance" devices they might employ would not be a problem for legitimate owners because the maintenance contract typically required IBM Field Service to handle any actual moves in order for the contract to stay valid. --Chuck

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IBM AS/400(?) in Denver, CO

by vaxman＠qwest.net

I was at an auction today where they had an IBM AS/400 (or AS/200?) mark not included in auction so I didn't bid on it :) If someone was motivated (Will?) they could try and run the owner to ground and see if it was going to be spit out the back end of a lease... Laters, clint PS Who besides me thinks Nascar fixed the Pepsi 400 so one of DEI or Childress racing would win it?

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DECstation 3100 drive mounting - (Was: Chassis Hardware)

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

Sridhar <vance(a)ikickass.org> wrote: > Hi. Two questions: > First of all, can the mounting platform of the VAXstation 3100 be > transplanted into a DECstation 3100? > Second, does anyone have any mounting rails for a DECstation 3100? I don't have any spares and in my experience they are hard to come by. A few years back a couple inquiries to DEC dealers brought quotes from $15 to $60 for the dang bracket. Hey, don't shoot me, I just the messenger. I did manage to find what I needed among other hobbyists at a more reasonable price. There are at least six different mounting brackets from that era for machines such as the DS3100, VS3100, DS5000, and the BA42. Here is some info that may help you get what you need. The DECstation 3100 can have one of two different mounting plates (DEC calls them pallets) for mounting drives in the CPU box. The first one I call a solid pallet. It has a solid front behind the removable front bezel and four threaded posts for mounting each drive bracket. The pallet part no. is 74-38401-01. Given this pallet, you can mount 2 RZ2x disks side by side at the front of the pallet. To mount the RZ23, the mounting bracket is part no. 74-38402-01. The RZ23 mounting holes are spaced differently than some other RZ2x drives, so there must be another bracket to mount other drives on this pallet but I don't have a part no. for it. The second one I call a cutout pallet. It has a cutout in the front panel behind the bezel and a 3 1/2 floppy can be installed there. The pallet part no. is 74-39823-01. Given this pallet, you can mount two RZ2x disks, one near the front beside the floppy drive, and one towards the back. The mounting bracket has two tabs that slip into the pallet and a knurled screw to attach it to the pallet. The part no. for one mounting bracket is 74-40133-01, and it will mount either an RZ23 or RZ25-E and possibly other drives. HTH Mike

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Plato terminal

by pete＠suba.com

This is two years late, but the terminal the original poster describes sounds like an IST (model 1), a CRT-based CDC product, vintage about 1978. There was a later edition called the IST-II, also CDC. It had two 8" drives and a Z-80 CPU, as well as connectivity to CDC PLATO mainframe systems, either by dialup modem (1200 bps) or multiplexer. The IST is not the oldest PLATO terminal, but it is the oldest that CDC manufactured, I suspect. Even my PLATO IV (Magnavox, 1971) is not the oldest, but only the first mass-produced machine. The earliest ones date to about 1961 and there are probably only two or three still in existence, if we're lucky enough to have that many. A precursor to these would be Norman Crowder's Auto-Tutor, vintage about 1958, which has characteristics very similar to the PLATO terminals (though it is not a computer terminal, it operates on filmstrip media), and PLATO's mechanisms are said to have been influenced by this machine. Peter Zelchenko (pete(a)suba.com) Chicago, Illinois

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4th of July Hypocricy (was: OT Celebration)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 9, Glenatacme(a)aol.com wrote: > IMHO it's crazy to be on a motorcycle without a helmet, so why not just > abandon the helmet requirement and let Darwin have the last word . . . Because our society and government are built around protecting the stupid. -Dave McGuire

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MicroVAX equipment

by dan＠ekoan.com

It's been nearly a decade since I really dealt with MicroVAXen, but I came across a guy who has the following: MicroVAX 3600 uVAX 1000 RA81 (2) RA90 and some miscellaneous cards, in four cabinets. He got them in as part of a truckload of de-installed equipment and doesn't have any idea what they're worth. I'm at a loss as to what to offer for them, other than (of course) the lowest possible price. Any ideas on the going rate for this type of DEC equipment? He's also got a DEC MicroServer and some VT 510's. The guy was nice enough to give me an RL02K-DC removable disk pack (since he didn't know what it was or what it worked in), so he seems easy to deal with. (The disk pack did not come with the MicroVAX stuff.) Cheers, Dan

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apple recall

by Marion.Bates＠dartmouth.edu

--- Mike Ford wrote: Recall uses the serial number of the G3, nothing apparently on the adapter needed. --- end of quote --- Actually, it asks for the adapter serial number after it checks your G3 serial number. They say to send back the old one in the prepaid envelope...will they send thugs to beat me up if I keep both? ;) -- MB

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WTD: NEC D4164 DRAMs (CERDIP, with brass cover)

by philpem＠bigfoot.com

Hi, I've just seen an article on using a NEC D4164 dynamic RAM as a quick and dirty image sensor - I'm specifically after the version that had a brass cover. Prices negotiable. I'm after five or more of the little buggers (two to practise removal tactics on, the rest to modify and hook up to different computers). Alternatively, if someone's got a Micron IS32 going spare, I'd be happy to take it off their hands :-) Thanks. -- Phil. philpem(a)bigfoot.com http://www.philpem.f9.co.uk/

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Ford EEC-IV

by Gary.Messick＠itt.com

I worked at Ford designing the software for the test-stand that tested the modules 10 years or so ago. Whadya want to know? Gary > Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:10:56 -0600 (MDT) > From: "Clint Wolff (VAX collector)" <vaxman(a)qwest.net> > Subject: Ford EEC-IV > Anyone got any info? My car (1990) has one, and I'm curious... Not > curious enough to risk killing my car though. > Clint

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apple recall

by elecdata＠kcinter.net

Just found this on a recall of apple power bricks for laptops http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-6475301.html?tag=mn_hd Bill

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Anyone with info on Cipher C8803 tape drives?

by brian＠quarterbyte.com

Hi, I acquired Chad Fernandez's Cipher C8803 tape drive (and with it a lifetime supply of foam peanuts). (Thanks, Chad! Got the drive, the QBus adapter is on its way.) Does anyone have documentation and/or cabling and interface info (physical and/or software) for this drive? Or know of a scanned or other online reference for it? From what I read, Seagate ate Connor ate Archive ate Cipher and there's nothing left. Cipher Tape drive (open reel streamer) Model C880340-96-15250 Part Number 961210-001 Option B Thanks, Brian

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Historically interesting (?) 'scope to anyone offeingr me anything interesting worth under $10

by r.stek＠snet.net

Dig out your old BYTE magazines and look for an early Circuit Cellar article about X-Y plotting. In it you will find a picture of a Heathkit IO-105 dual-trace 'scope. Well friends, THAT VERY SAME 'scope can be YOURS! This scope was PERSONALLY owned by Steve Ciarcia and became a fixture at the Circuit Cellar (even has a BEAUTIFUL, PROFESSIONALLY CRAFTED Circuit Cellar mylar sticker adorning the case) - and for an extra $5 I think I can get him to autograph it with an engraving tool ANYWHERE YOU WANT ON THE CASE!!! (sorry - seeing that post about DAK making a comeback has obviously done strange things to my brain) All seriousness aside, I got this from Steve, and it is in very good condition with only one small problem - it immediately blows its fuse whenever you turn it on. I loved Heathkits - they were just my speed - I could follow instructions, measure and cut wire, and I could grab the cool end of a soldering iron over 60% of the time. But without a manual and with no formal or informal training in electronics, to me it's just a boat anchor. I was going to toss it, but if anyone wants it, I can A) bring it to VCF East, or B) have it packed and shipped (it's heavy, bulky and obviously at least the tube itself is breakable). Just to make thing things interesting, anyone who can offer me a book, old computer magazine, Infocom CP/M disk or manual, NEC V-20, anything vaguely CP/M or 8080 / Z-80 /S-100 related, it's yours. No takers - its off to SallyAnn or Good Will (with a note attached stating its fuse-blowing propensity). Decision by the judges is final. Offer good only as long as I feel like it. For a list of the winner, send a SASE to: Bob Stek Saver of Lost Sols

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SPAM - Ancient Mac stuff FS

by jrasite＠eoni.com

I'm still sitting on a pile of vintage machines (wife continues to say the "sea of beige" has to go! Two boxed up and ready to go ain't enough): Keyboards, cables and rodents included with the following if you desire. (5) IIsi 5/80 (might even be a 9/80 in the pile...) $10ea. (2) Plus $10ea. $30 with correct 20-40mb external (no scsi cable included though.) 512K $25 (in negotiation) LC $10 (2) LC III $15ea. IIci $15 <sale pending> IIcx $10 LC 520 $45 IIfx w/ 25Mhz Rocket and fast scsi daughtercard, 8*24GC $50 <sale pending> C650 (stock with Q650 specs 33Mhz & math. go figure...) $25 Esoterica: Apple Personal Modem (1400 baud) Period accessory for IIe/c/128/512/Plus collectors. $10 Apple Adjustable Keyboard (complete but non-functional) $5 128/512/Plus 10-key keypad $5 Localtalk tranceivers $5/pr. Imagewriter $10 12" monitors $20 Bernoulli Transportable 90 with 4 disks (Has some interesting s/w on a couple of them) $45 A bunch of HP plotter pens of various types and colors $50 gets the FULL 12" x 16" x 7" box I also have a few ethernet cards for vintage Macs if anyone is looking. All are used/tested. They fit: (2) IIsi (1) SE/30 (1) LC III $15 ea All prices are exclusive of shipping. I prefer USPS but since you'll be paying the freight, you get to choose. Jim

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IBM AS/400(?) in Denver, CO

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

To the best of my knowledge, no IBM machine has *ever* contained such a feature.. I've worked with RS/6000's, System/36's, AS/400's, and a 4381, and none contain such a feature... Hell the AS/400's had been kicked out the backdoor of the building into the parking lot, and they work fine.. so file that under urban legend... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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OT oil shortage

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Perhaps the most entertaining thing is where the US imports the majority of its imported petroleum from: Canada. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Who wants a Tektronix 8002A uProcessor Lab?

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

I took the 8002 that I got from Joe (Thanks Joe) and hooked it up to a terminal but couldn't get them to talk to each other. Seems the 8002 has a bad -12V power supply so the comm wouldn't work. I didn't get any further than that so, I'm not sure if there are other problems with the system or not. I removed the PS and it's not that complex so, it should possible to fix it without TOO much work. If I was really inspired, I could probably fix it in a few hours. It's probably something as simple as the Voltage Regulator IC or a fried bypass transistor. Of course, I could substitute another PS but, I'd prefer to keep everything original. Since I don't have the TEKDOS disks or any other software, this project has been really low on my priority list. If those TEKDOS disks are still available, I could certainly use them. Not sure about the disk format. Does any one know if they can be duplicated on another system? The box that I have has a Z80 POD and assembler. The Z80 happens to be my preferred microprocessor and it'd be very cool to have a "real" z80 development system. SteveRob >From: joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> >Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >CC: Steve Robertson <steven_j_robertson(a)hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: Who wants a Tektronix 8002A uProcessor Lab? >Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 11:25:23 -0400 > >Hi Joel, > > I'm very interested in Tektronix computers. I never set out to collect >them but they just seem to find me. I have a loaded 4051, Tek 31 >claculator, several 4041s and an 8170. I picked up an 8002 about a year >ago. I didn't have room to keep it or the time to fool with it so I >finally gave it to Steve Robertson. I also had some manuals that I had >picked up somewhere. I gave them to Steve also. Somewhere I have some Tek >DOS disks also and I plan on giving them to Steve when I find them. I >don't know if the disks that I have are the right ones for this 8002 and I >know that there are manuals that I'm missing so if no one else claims this >stuff, I will claim it on Steve's behalf. I'll also take some of the >hardware but I won't be able to take it all since it would cost a fortune >to ship. (I'm in Orlando, Florida.) Still, between the two of them we >should be able to make a complete and operational system. > > Joe > >At 09:33 PM 7/10/01 -0600, you wrote: >>Hi all... >> >>Buried away in my company's cold storage I some time ago found a Tektronix >>8002A uProcessor Lab. I made one inquiry about this earlier, and got a >>reply >>telling me it was an interesting find. Sorry but I don't recall the fellow >>who sent that email. The 8002A was apparently used to develop software and >>operating systems for 8080 and 6800 based devices. Our company used it to >>develop the software for RTU's (Remote Terminal Units), which are commonly >>used in the oil & gas business at remote sites to control and monitor >>equipment on the site (such as pumps, valves, pressure transmitters). >> >>I've gone back out and made a partial list of everything that's included, >>which follows. I've also asked the boss what he thinks, and he just wants >>it >>GONE - that means FREE! So, have a look below and if this intrigues you >>let >>me know. The main problem will be shipping, as the total package probably >>weighs 200 pounds. The equipment is located in central Alberta (yes that >>IS >>Canada), so you might want to think twice about the shipping costs. >> >>Hardware: >> >> Tektronix 8002A uProcessor Lab >> - 2 PROM burner sockets on front panel >> >>2 Tektronix Flexible Disc Units >> - 2 8" floppy drives each >> >>2 Emulator Processors with probes >> (external black boxes on ribbon cables, & DIP plug) >> >>Manuals: >> >> 8080A Emulator Processor >> 8080A Assembler & Editor User's Manual >> >> 6800 Emulator Processor >> 6800 Assembler & Editor User's Manual >> >>3 TekDOS System Reference Booklets >> >> Command Reference Cards for various processors >> >>Software: >> >>NUMEROUS 8" floppies which seem to include... >> >> TekDOS >> Fortran >> Pascal >> RTU Development Disks (many) >> >>Depending on interest I may run this notice another time or two, to make >>sure nobody who might be interested misses it.... >> >>Joel A. Weder >>jweder(a)telusplanet.net >>403-556-4020 > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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DAK (was: Historically interesting (?) 'scope to anyone offeingr me anything interesting worth under $10

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

At 10:10 AM 7/11/01 -0700, you wrote: > > >(sorry - seeing that post about DAK making a comeback has obviously done > > >strange things to my brain) > > And the invention of "eDAKonians" makes my eyes bleed. > >If you look at the page info, ... >www.dak.com and it's subsidiary pages, was put up in June 2000, and ahsn't >been changed since. Would that indicate a "false start"? If you read the web page carefully, you'll see that Drew is helping a bank setup this new DAK. It doesn't sound like it's going to be his company or that he's going to run it. So I doubt it will be as good as the old DAK. :-( Joe

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Chassis Hardware

by vance＠ikickass.org

Hi. Two questions: First of all, can the mounting platform of the VAXstation 3100 be transplanted into a DECstation 3100? Second, does anyone have any mounting rails for a DECstation 3100? Peace... Sridhar

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ClassicCmp Survivor Series!

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I'm intrigued. What are you doing with this hypercube? > > Peace... Sridhar Arthur Clarke once wrote a story about some Tibetan (or nearby) Buddhist monks using a computer to iterate all the names of God, so that they could bring the world to an end. Or maybe it was bradbury, but it seems I recall Clarke... Once good application would be to create an intelligent filter for the ClassicCmp mailing list, to keep all the off-topic discussions out of my mailbox. Yeah, they bug me too, but OTOH I wouldn't want the flow censored *for* me, only *by* me... Regards, -dq

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kinda-classiccmp-related

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I've got a Tek model 453 'scope on the way. Opinions/comments on this model? Anybody got a manual they can photocopy for me? Thanks. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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DEC DF108-RM

by chomko＠greenbelt.com

I found two DEC DF108-RM units. They appear to be a modem pool or communication unit of some sort. What are they worth? IS there any interest in them? I found them at one of my regular haunts. The sticker states "make offer." Let me know if there is any interest. Eric

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Interesting new find (and not from Circuit Cellar!)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Interesting you should mention Lab-Volt. I just picked up one of the four > position workstations/benches along with the installed test equipment, etc. > with all the student test assemblies. It has four sets of logic trainers, > motor experiments, and radio parts along with one set of student manuals. I > didn't realize they also made a microcomputer trainer, but now I'll have to > dig around and see if I can find one :). Our high school science labs had Lab-Volt power supplies at each two-person workstation. Klunky looking but we never had a failure... -dq

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Old Mystery solved

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

A long time ago I posed an interesting mystery to the folks on both the classiccmp and port-vax lists. That mystery was this, "What cable do I need to connect the KA660 in the BA400 cabinet to the DSSI bus?" I asked the question because the KA660, like the KA640, has a DSSI interface on the CPU card. Further that interface comes out to a 50 pin IDC plug that is next to the 50 pin plug for the memory bus (just like the KA640). Further, in the right most slot of the BA400 series chassis with the Q/CD back plane is a board, M9715, that has a high density Honda connector and it plugs into the DSSI backplane. I reasoned that there was a DEC cable that went from the 50 pin IDC connector to the Honda connector and this provided the internal path to the DSSI bus. I discovered later that the CD connectors on the far right of the Q/CD backplane in the BA440 are connected to the DSSI drives, and further that the KA660 routes the DSSI interface there so just plugging it in connected it to the DSSI backplane. And I never figured out what went in the M9715 until now ... DEC Part #17-02704-01 which is a replacement cover plate for the board, and has a DSSI connector on it and a cable that plugs into the Honda connector! This came off an B400X which had the Qbus extension in it and this cover/cable combination allows you to plug into the DSSI chain! Mystery solved! --Chuck

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Ford EEC-IV

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 7/10/01 8:23:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, vaxman(a)qwest.net writes: << Anyone got any info? My car (1990) has one, and I'm curious... Not curious enough to risk killing my car though. >> There is book about using/modifying EEC systems on the market. There's also a yahoo group that talks about the system in detail. tuner23 I think its called. All of this is car related of course. -- DB Young Team OS/2 old computers, hot rod pinto and more at: www.nothingtodo.org

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Any interest in Data General Aviions or an RS/6000?

by dan＠ekoan.com

I've got a lead on four DG Aviions, CPUs only. They look to be pretty clean but I didn't have much time to check them out and there was no way to test any of them. They appeared to be identical, but I only got to see the back label on one of them, which was an AV 4300. Any interest? Also, at the same place there's an RS/6000 J50. Again, just the CPU box itself and no way of testing anything. If someone is seriously interested, let me know what they might be worth (sight unseen, I know) and I'll go back with an offer to pick 'em up. They're located in Maryland, if shipping or pick-up is an issue. Cheers, Dan

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This is one of those times...

by vance＠ikickass.org

...when they made a MIPS/VMS. Can you make a heterogeneous VMScluster of VAXen and Alphas? Peace... Sridhar

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controlling power

by mikeford＠socal.rr.com

> hey do you have any ideas about using relays or some thing connected >to a parallel or aerial port to control the power to an outlet, you know >like a dimmer switch controlling motors ETC if you have any thought >or ideas I'd be glad to hear them. X10, why reinvent the wheel? or Rotten computer sent that before I could add http://www.sophisticated.com/ currently mac oriented, but moving to USB and all platforms. More generic stuff, looks pricey though. http://www.dataprobe.com http://ecatalog.squared.com/catalog/html/sections/04/17204010.htm

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Interesting new find (and not from Circuit Cellar!)

by r.stek＠snet.net

Tag sale-ing does have its moments. I picked up (after some hard bargaining) from a retired engineer, a Lab-Volt 355 microcomputer trainer. Based around a 6502, it has a hex keypad on the right side of its sloping panel, and another 16-key keypad on the left with keys apparently used to initiate common "faults" by the instructor. Above the keypad is a complete LED display which shows in both binary and digitally the contents of memory, address, stack, accumulator, etc. This is a big heavy sucker. It has parallel, serial, cassette audio I/O, digital I/O, device controller connectors on the rear. It also has expansion slots accessible thru the rear. The former owner says he still has the manuals, but cannot find them at the moment. I did get some info from Lab-Volt, but they are just sales brochures. Any 6502 affectionados out there with some more history on this unit? Bob Stek Saver of Lost Sols

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gonkulator

by louis.hannah＠btinternet.com

Magnasee mag stripe fluid developer can be bought from Kyros in the usa phone 608 238-3587. The plastic viewer you speak of was made by 3m many years since I seen one so they no longer be in production. Lou Hannah

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Ford EEC-IV

by vaxman＠qwest.net

Anyone got any info? My car (1990) has one, and I'm curious... Not curious enough to risk killing my car though. Clint

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ClassicCmp Survivor Series!

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

At 01:16 PM 7/10/01 -0500, you wrote: >If I'm the second to the last do I get a 286? No you get TWO million 386's --Chuck

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Off Topic Crap - Stop It Now!

by MTPro＠aol.com

Be considerate, then reflect on your OT views. I am sick and tired of this BS! Knock it off. HELLO, anybody monitoring this mess?! Enough, start kicking people off already. And please everyone, stop quoting super long lines of previous messages. Are you too lazy to just keep it short for basic reference. If you must discuss politics, religion, etc. then do it by personal e-mail unless you are just strutting yourself online.

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Catweasel Floppy Read/Write Tools, version 2.1

by tim.mann＠compaq.com

Version 2.1 of my Catweasel Floppy Read/Write Tools (cw2dmk and dmk2cw) is now available at http://www.tim-mann.org/trs80resources.html. This release adds some heuristics to cw2dmk to produce cleaner output files and to autodetect RX02 encoding. Standard blurb on the tools: The Catweasel Floppy Read/Write Tools are software for the Catweasel ISA universal floppy disk controller. cw2dmk will read several kinds of floppy disk, some of which ordinary PC controllers have trouble with, and save them in the DMK disk image format. (DMK is a format used by the Unix TRS-80 emulator xtrs and by David Keil's TRS-80 emulator for MS-DOS.) cw2dmk does not just read TRS-80 disks; it can handle (at least) any disk written using a Western Digital 177x/179x floppy disk controller, a PC-style NEC765-compatible controller, or a Digital Equipment Corporation RX02 controller. dmk2cw will write any DMK image back to a real floppy disk, and handles the same kinds of disks as cw2dmk. The tools run on both Linux and MS-DOS. Source code is included under the GPL. Tim Mann tim.mann(a)compaq.com http://www.tim-mann.org Compaq Computer Corporation, Systems Research Center, Palo Alto, CA

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Best ways to drive a Tektronix terminal?

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

I don't know of any machine that will drive them other Tektronix machines. However there is a Tektronix 4041 for sale on E-bay right now. The last time that I checked, the price was still cheap. In case you're not familar with it, the 4041 is shoebox sized computer that's usually used as an HP-IB instrument controller. They have a 68000 CPU and run BASIC. They don't have a screen or keyboard but use a terminal instead. Once they're programmed they're usually run with no terminal attached. They do have a very small LED display and a few keys on the front in order to input Yes/No, numbers and other minimal information. They also have a built in tape drive and can auto-load programs in a stand alone mode. Joe At 09:29 AM 7/9/01 -0700, you wrote: >I reciently inherited a rather stout Tektronix terminal. It sits in it's >own stand and appears very solidly built. This machine is the classic >green storage tube phospher (Remember Battlestar Galactica?). > >I used one of these in college many years ago and was wondering if there >were any libraries for cpm era machines I might be able to use to drive >the graphic modes of this ancient terminal. > > >George Rachor > >========================================================= >George L. Rachor Jr. george(a)rachors.com >Hillsboro, Oregon http://rachors.com >United States of America Amateur Radio : KD7DCX

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ClassicCmp Reality Series ...

by mbbrutman＠yahoo.com

"Who Wants To Own A Meg Of RAM" - Answer 15 questions correctly, starting with "How many bits in an 8-bit word" and work your way up to reciting the last five license plates of cars owned by Seymour Cray. Winners get one megabyte of RAM (8 bit bytes), parity checked, at 120ns in discrete TTL logic. "Survivor: (Slashdor series)" 60 people (mostly men) are subscribed to a mailing list. Except instead of being free form, it has a group moderation feature a-la Slashdot. Instead of getting mod'ed down to -1, you get voted off the list. Who'll be the last poster standing? Immunity challenges are replaced with being marked "insightful" and mod'ed up to 5 on a post, while being able to bash Jon Katz. "Temptation Mailing List" 60 people (same group) are subscribed to a mailing list, and all other access to other computers is cut off. Can they stay on topic with the mailing list, or will they all succumb to their darkest fears? "MSN House" Ooops. This was done already. Too bad WebVan has gone out of business - now they are going to starve to death. "VAXyard Wars" Build a machine capable of running a SETI work unit in 15 hours. You are limited to vintage hardware (pre-1985) for this task. You can use anything you can find in the hardware, including water cooling equipment for overclocking the cranky of VAXes. Oh, and you have to pedal a bicycle that you build yourself to supply the electricity. Hard drives are made out of old tires. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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SCSI Ethernet adapters (was: How much is a partial Lisaworth?)

by jruschme＠mac.com

>Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 16:12:04 -0400 >From: "Michael L. Drew" <mldrew(a)drewtech.com> >Subject: Re: SCSI Ethernet adapters (was: How much is a partial Lisaworth?) > >Hi! >I am not sure that this is the same thing.... > >I have 3 NuvoLink SC boxes. > >They have AUI,BNC and SCSI on the back... Well, they are SCSI-to-Ethernet converters. Though, in terms of drivers, they are totally different. >From what I can see, there are the following families of SCSI-to-Ethernet boxes: Kinetics -> Cabletron Compatible Systems -> NuvoLink SC -> Focus EtherSC Dayna Farallon / Sonic Asante What is somewhat interesting is that if you know the history of some of the companies and how the rest of their product lines changed hands, then there are at least two companies missing: Cayman Systems Shiva For most of the Kinetics products, there are Cayman, Shiva, and Dayna versions. The DaynaPORT SCSI-to-Ethernet adapter, however, has no relationship to the Kinetics one. Personally, I've always wondered if it had an ancestor product at Cayman or Shiva, but have never been able to figure that out. <<<john>>>

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ClassicCmp Survivor Series!

by CARL.P.HIRSCH＠sargentlundy.com

I got a lot more out of _eXisTenZ_, but maybe that's just because Cronenberg's so talented and disturbing. Something about his biomechanical aesthetic (a la Naked Lunch) and profound uneasiness (a la Videodrome) really turns my crank. -carl "John Allain" <allain(a)panix.com> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent by: cc: owner-classiccmp@clas Subject: Re: ClassicCmp Survivor Series! siccmp.org 07/10/01 03:47 PM Please respond to classiccmp > We're just part of a simulation, being run in another universe. :) <rave> There was a movie called "The Thirteenth Floor" made in 1999 that had this as the basis, Computer simulations as all encompassing alternate universes. In case you thought the movie sucked or, further that is doesn't apply to the 10 year rule... It is based on a story "Counterfeit World / Simulachron-3", published in, get this, 1964... and serialized for German TV in 1974 by Fassbinder. Just in case you thought VR was a unique idea. Galouye must've had something going, when you think of what computers were actually doing in 64. John A. </rave>

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TZ85/TK85

by dittman＠dittman.net

I have a drive that is identified on the front as a TZ85 and on the top as a TK85-AX. The drive has a non-standard interface one the back. The interface is a high-density 40-pin connector in two rows of 10. Does anyone know what kind of connector is on this drive? -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net

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Navtel RS-232 breakout box

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

Does anyone have the technical manual for the Navtel SuperTest 25 RS-232 breakout box? I need to know how to make it act like as a DCE. It's a green metal box that's about 3 x 3"inches and about 9" tall. Joe

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ClassicCmp Survivor Series!

by mjsnodgr＠rockwellcollins.com

"Clint Wolff (VAX collector)" <vaxman(a)qwest.net>@classiccmp.org on 07/09/2001 10:05:47 PM Please respond to classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Sent by: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org cc: Subject: ClassicCmp Survivor Series! Don't be the first to get voted off the mailing list!!!! 1 Million '386 PCs for the last person to get voted off :) ------------------------------------------------ If I'm the second to the last do I get a 286? - M.S.

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QBUS Board ID?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 10, Ethan Dicks wrote: > The PIC is a Harvard Architecture machine (seperate instruction and data > busses, typically different widths, as opposed to a Von Neumann architecture > machine - code and data on the same bus). I think I remember reading that > the 8X300-series is also H.A. Yes, they're both Harvard architecture processors, but beyond that, the PIC 16xxx architecture traces its lineage directly back to the 8X300 family. -Dave McGuire

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QBUS Board ID?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 10, Will Jennings wrote: > Um, how are the 8X305 and the PIC related? Totally different companies, and > the 8X300 (which the 8X305 is descended from), is older than the original > PIC, to the best of my knowledge... PIC = General Instruments, while 8X300 = > SMS, later bought by Signetics.. or the 2650 was the SMS chip, at any rate, > it was a Signetics chip.. GI adapted the SMS/Signetics 8x300 for use as a peripheral interface controller (PIC) to augment the poor I/O of its CP1600 processor. GI's IC division was spun off to form Arizona Microchip Technology (sound familiar?) in the mid 80's, producing EPROMs, EEPROMs, and..."PIC" processors. -Dave McGuire

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Need Help with Possible CDC Tape Drive Rescue

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

I have a favor to ask, of anyone who is able and feels inclined to help. There was a CDC 9-track tape drive, said to be a model 696, of the old Cyber mainframe variety. This particular model might even have been used on one of their non-Cyber models, but at eighty bucks, I'd like to have it. But it's in Clinton VA, and I'm in Louisville KY (or thereabouts). Is there a lister near DC who might be willing to pick it up and hold it for, say, up to three years? Responses off-list, preferred, but not required. Thanks, -doug quebbeman

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QBUS Board ID?

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Um, how are the 8X305 and the PIC related? Totally different companies, and the 8X300 (which the 8X305 is descended from), is older than the original PIC, to the best of my knowledge... PIC = General Instruments, while 8X300 = SMS, later bought by Signetics.. or the 2650 was the SMS chip, at any rate, it was a Signetics chip.. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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ClassicCmp Survivor Series!

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

> What if there is one or more names of God of infinite length? > Then it wouldn't have been a name that could be known. Which was, ISTR, part of the story. Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service.

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Any IBM S/360 model 30 on this globe (fwd)

by thompson＠mail.athenet.net

Reply to original author... -- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:45:59 +0200 From: Henk Stegeman <Henk.J.Stegeman(a)is.shell.com> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Subject: Any IBM S/360 model 30 on this globe Resent-Subject: Any IBM S/360 model 30 on this globe Hi, I have an old IBM S/360 model 30 front panel and I started a project to bring this panel back to live. I wrote an emulator on Linux which emulates S/360 model 30 micro-code instructions. You read this correctly: micro-code instruction, not S/360 instructions. The emulator is now finished and has already executed successfully some micro-code instructions which I copied out of the Field Engineering Theory of Operation Manual (FETOM). I need a complete copy of all the IBM CLD pages to implement the full micro-code set needed for the whole S/360 instruction set. I am now searching for any remaining IBM S/360 models 30 or 22 on this globe (privately or museum). Who can help me ? I know that the Computer Museum at Mountain View and the IBM Museum in Endicott have a model 30 but unfortunately without documentation. Any hint, tips or leads are welcome ! Regards Henk Henk.j.stegeman(a)is.shell.com

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