- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 13, Eric Dittman wrote: > > On July 13, Eric Dittman wrote: > > > > DECserver 700, DSRVW-CA.AC1. > > > > > > I'm not sure if the -CA has FLASH capabilities. I know the -ZC > > > does for sure. If the -CA does have FLASH capabilities, do you > > > have a FLASH memory card for it? > > > > Nope. I haven't cracked it open. I was just going to netboot it. > > Then you'll want to make sure the system you boot it from doesn't > have its console on the terminal server. I like having a FLASH- > capable terminal server so I don't have to rely on any of the > systems being up and functioning to get the terminal server going. Yes, I will have to be careful with that. At this point I'm kinda limited by what I have on-hand. -Dave McGuire

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 13, Eric Dittman wrote: > > DECserver 700, DSRVW-CA.AC1. > > I'm not sure if the -CA has FLASH capabilities. I know the -ZC > does for sure. If the -CA does have FLASH capabilities, do you > have a FLASH memory card for it? Nope. I haven't cracked it open. I was just going to netboot it. -Dave McGuire

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Apple II wooden case

by paul＠orchard.wccnet.org

The wooden case is a protective shell around the Apple II. It was probably marketed for schools, especially for the teacher's computer. I bet there is a way to lock the shell down with either a bolt or a cable. The computer itself is either an Apple II or Apple II+. Paul R. Santa-Maria Monroe, Michigan USA

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 13, Tom Uban wrote: > I run a sparc IPX with NetBSD as my firewall. I use the serial console > so that I don't have to have a big non-multisync monitor and/or extra > keyboard/mouse pair sitting on my desk. The box is plenty fast enough > for a firewall and it sits there running quitely month after month, quite > happy. It is on a UPS:-) Ahh, sanity! Bravo! The idea that "every computer must have a bitmapped display, a keyboard, and a mouse" that the PeeCee world has infected us with is utterly ridiculous. -Dave McGuire

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 13, Eric Dittman wrote: > > I have a 700-16 here that I plan to put into service soon. Looks like > > a damn nice box. > > What is the model number? DECserver 700, DSRVW-CA.AC1. -Dave McGuire

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More DEC doc scans up

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

Bill Bradford wrote: > I've put the handbooks off for a while until I can decide on > how I want to do them. Until then, MACRO-11, BATCH-11, and > RSTS-11 brochures: > > http://www.decdocs.org/docs >if anybody else has more stuff like this, please let me know. At the very least the following sites have (or will have) DEC & DEC-related docs (no order implied): http://montagar.com/~patj/hcps.htm http://www.pdp8.net/query_docs/query_all.html http://www.vt100.net/ http://www.spies.com/~aek/pdf/dec/ http://www.mainecoon.com/classiccmp/ http://www.36bit.org/dec/ I can remember yours (rather than having to hunt through bookmarks) so a few more links on there would be a quick and easy useful addition IMHO! Antonio arcarlini(a)iee.org

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Problems installing Solaris 2.4 on SPARCstation LX

by cryhavoc_q＠hotmail.com

Thanks for the info everyone! Yeah, I understand that Solaris 2.5.1 is probably better, but I can only get my hands on 2.4 or 8. And I want to install OpenStep 1.0 (for sentimental reasons) on top of Solaris. I understand that OpenStep for Solaris doesn't work with anything newer than 2.5... Also, I've got a ton of 72 pin SIMMs sitting around (well over 128MB worth) pulled from 68k and PPC 601 Macintoshes... So I'm not concerned about the memory. I dunno if they are parity or not, though. Macs don't care... Any way I can tell by looking at the SIMMs? Nah, I'm not looking for a speed deamon here. I know I won't be setting any records or anything. I just want a chance to get an older box up and running so when I'm at school I can proudly say: "Look at this! I got an LX >from a dumpster, put Solaris 2.4 and OpenStep 1 on it, and now I'm running OmniWeb 2.5!" *grin* Well... first I'd like to get it running... ;-) In the meantime, I'll be looking for an older CD-ROM drive that will do 512 byte blocks. It seems people here are correct - the Matshita CD-R i have probably is the problem. I just succesfully started a Solaris 2.4 installation on an LX here at work for a co-worker... He's not sticking with Solaris though, he'll be moving to a Mandrake Linux distro. Question about the audio: It's 44kHz 16bit stereo, right? Any chance I can play MP3s? :-D heh.... 50MHz is a bit slow for 128kbps audio I imagine. But it's worth a try just for the heck of it, right? Peace, Drew P.S. I'm sure I'll have more difficulties ;-) I'll write again once I locate a CD-ROM which can do 512byte blocks ----Original Message Follows---- From: Ethan Dicks <ethan_dicks(a)yahoo.com> Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Problems installing Solaris 2.4 on SPARCstation LX Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 07:42:31 -0700 (PDT) [snip] > Ugh. > Solaris 2.4 was no bargain... I wouldn't use anything less than 2.5. > I'd probably try 2.6. On IPX's and Sparc2's I'd prefer the SunOS > 4.1.3_U1. Agreed. For a flood of reasons, I'd consider 2.5.1 to be the baseline for experimenting with old Solaris unless you are aiming for something historical. [snip] You can also stuff a pair of 32Mb 72-pin parity SIMMs in the first bank (it's all done in pairs), giving you a maximum of 128Mb on a Classic or LX. Mine has 2 x 32Mb + 2 x 16Mb + 2 x 4Mb for a total of 108Mb. That and a couple of 9Mb SCSI-narrow drives and it hums along nicely under Solaris 7. It will never set any speed records, to be sure. It's about the same level of responsiveness as a SPARC2 or IPX even though it's a 50Mhz MicroSparcII chip (QFP soldered, no upgrade possible, unlike the SPARC2 and IPX), but the big benefit is that it is sun4m and has a longer useful life if you don't need to wring any speed out of it. [snip] -ethan _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> I think you'll find most people on this list have computers > with only a serial terminal. Some of us even have Terminals that are plugged into terminal servers instead of computers. That way they can choose which computer on the network they connect to. What can I say, I love VT420's. > Other than my main Linux system > and my laptop (and excluding my wife's system and her laptop), > everything else is connected to a terminal server. My big thing is sharing my Monitors between systems. Right now the IBM P200 can drive 4 systems (4-way digital switch box for both video, keyboard and mouse), the Viewsonic P815 can do 2 (dual inputs), and the Dec 17" can do 2 (dual inputs). > I do have a VT525 that's connected to a 19" color monitor. > That makes a great terminal. Oh, drool! Now that sounds sweet! Zane

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 13, Eric Dittman wrote: > > Some of us even have Terminals that are plugged into terminal servers > > instead of computers. That way they can choose which computer on the > > network they connect to. What can I say, I love VT420's. > > I use a DECserver 90M. I've got a handful of other DECservers, > but I like the 90M due to its size. I'll be switching to a > DECserver 700-16 soon, though. I have a 700-16 here that I plan to put into service soon. Looks like a damn nice box. -Dave McGuire

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MicroVAX equipment

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Ethan Dicks wrote: >How many zeros in "desperatly"? I've heard of VAXeln; I don't remember >anything about a uVAX1000 in particular, but I have a foggy memory that >DEC did sell stripped hardware that would run VAXeln but not VMS. It >wasn't cheap enough to be wildly popular, ISTR. I don't think I heard >much of anything outside of DECUS symposia. I think that the proper designation was the rtVAX 1000. (Based, IIRC, on the KA620 - a cut down version of the KA630 used in the MicroVAX II). There were other rtVAX variants based on the later CVAX chips but I've never particularly kept track of them so I don't have a list. Antonio arcarlini(a)iee.org

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 13, Carlos Murillo wrote: > > Ahh, sanity! Bravo! The idea that "every computer must have a > >bitmapped display, a keyboard, and a mouse" that the PeeCee world has > >infected us with is utterly ridiculous. > > Right! I have a 6-to-1 RS-232 switch with one vt320 on one side, > and on the other sides I have 1) hp380, 2) Decstation 5000/133, > 3) Vaxstation 2000, 4) and 5) misc. 68hc11 boards... > > Saves a lot of space :-) . Very cool! -Dave McGuire

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Cipher C880 tape drive

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 13, Brian Knittel wrote: > Photos I saw of the F880 look just like my drive. That's > promising but superficial. Does anyone know the difference > between the Cipher C880 and the F880 series? Anybody > have any detailed info on either drive? I believe I have a service manual for the F880...want me to go dig for it? -Dave McGuire

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Old PCs in Bristol, England need good home

by vcf＠siconic.com

Here's a chap in Bristol, England, with various PC bits to give away. Please reply to original sender. Reply-to: <jbryant(a)iee.org> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 23:08:38 +0200 From: "James M. BRYANT, G4CLF" <jbryant(a)iee.org> Subject: Re: Old PCs in Bristol - England I have the following:- Compaq Deskpro 386 (forget how big the hard drive is) IBM PC-XT 3 Keyboards 2 13" Colour monitors 1 13" Green monitor 386 Twinhead B&W notebook, PSU and mouse Victor AT B&W Laptop & PSU - twin 720 Kbyte floppies, no hard drive 16-bit Sound card - unused -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 13, Eric Dittman wrote: > > Ahh, sanity! Bravo! The idea that "every computer must have a > > bitmapped display, a keyboard, and a mouse" that the PeeCee world has > > infected us with is utterly ridiculous. > > I think you'll find most people on this list have computers > with only a serial terminal. Other than my main Linux system How refreshing. The next time I see a stack of Suns in a computer room with a monitor/keyboard/mouse on a KVM switch, I'm going to throw up. > and my laptop (and excluding my wife's system and her laptop), > everything else is connected to a terminal server. Excellent! I'm about to (FINALLY) take that step myself. > I do have a VT525 that's connected to a 19" color monitor. > That makes a great terminal. Cool! -Dave McGuire

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Collecting vs. My Wife

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Plays Tempest and Star Trek very well under MAME. The ROM for TEMPEST is available, and there's an emulator??? I've been making do with ARASHI on the Mac for 10 years, and I coulda had the real thing? Any links? -dq

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by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> I've got the Ancient Unix license... didn't know Ultrix-32 was > available there. > > Time to check the PUPS archive (actually, first get VAX/VMS up then > worry about the Unix on the box). > > Great > > Bill > Has been for about a year, see my other post for a rundown of what's there (not as much as I expected). Besides, as I *always* say, VAX/VMS is preferable. This is of course in part because I find UNIX on hardware older than about a Sparc 10 painful. Zane

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Anyone with info on Cipher C8803 tape drives?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Does anyone have documentation and/or cabling and interface info (physical > and/or software) for this drive? Or know of a scanned or other online > reference for it? From what I read, Seagate ate Connor ate Archive ate Cipher > and there's nothing left. At one time, there was a college with a lab who had a Cipher F880 and had a PDF of the maintenance manual... I downloaded it, but seem to have lost the PDF. All I can find is the printed copy. This is maybe a different drive, but I'd be shocked if the interface wasn't either SCSI or Pertec. hth, -doug q

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Adapting serial mice to quadrature systems

by optimus＠canit.se

There's been some talk before about adapting those blasted serial mice which are so common on the PC (all current PC mouses are serial, whether they connect to an actual RS232 port or to a "PS/2" connector) to a more sensible quadrature system. Was it Tony or Pete who talked about making a PIC based adaptor? Well, here's your chance, according to the Aminet daily: ps2m.lha hard/hack 191K+Ultimate Amiga PS/2 WheelMouseController ps2m_example.lha hard/hack 150K+PS/2 WheelMouseController - PCB photos And look here what turned up today, in relation to the recent LJ III thread: HP_LaserjetIII.lha text/print 14K+Laserjet III Workbench Driver v1.2 -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6a.

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Anyone with info on Cipher C8803 tape drives?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On 12 Jul, Chad Fernandez wrote: > > > It better be Pertec and not SCSI! > SCSI is one 50 pin connector, Pertec uses two 50 pin connectors. > > > If it were SCSI that would mean I just gave away a Qbus SCSI card.... > > I think I would shoot myself :-) > Happy suicide! ;-) > > > I think the card was an Emulex UC07, or TC07, or something like that.... > > I don't know :-) > field-guide.txt: > UC07D Q Emulex single SCSI bus adaptor. Chad- Bummer, man! -dq

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All this PLATO talk got me going...

by claudew＠videotron.ca

Hi Well all this Plato talk has got me excited... I am still looking for screen shot of my favorite stuff on the system like Dogfight and Airfight and if I would find some references to some of the stuff I wrote (like my Space Attack game) I would go nuts. I have decided to contact some people here at the Quebec network of Universities in hope on finding some Plato stuff....The Plato system was used a lot by universites in Quebec in the early 80s. Thats when I spent most of my time on the system...too much time...writing stuff in tutor....also might enjoy finding the plato terminal emulator for PC (I know it existed because I used it...) and maybe some micro-tutor/plato stuff....even if I never used micro-plato/tutor... I might even find an old terminal in one of the college basements somewhere maybe...or even listings....I actually had the whole Airfight listing here at one point and was gonna translate it to french and abandonned the project...listing went into the garbage...like a lot of the stuff I wrote when I was younger...now I regret.... Even had some CDC/Plato docs that I threw out long time ago...hey, I was younger.... Here is some stuff I found...about micro plato... Correct. The CDC-110 Micro Plato Station consisted of a CDC IST-2 or IST-3 terminal connected via a proprietary bus to a box containing its own Z80 and an 8" DSDD floppy; the IST (containing its own 64K RAM and Z80) acted as a terminal, while the actual CP/M crunching took place on the Z80 within the disk-drive cabinet. I worked for many years at the City Colleges of Chicago, which used the PLATO computers at the University of Illinois (and still uses PLATO's descendent, NovaNET). During the '80s, we had a couple hundred IST terminals, most of which were "naked" and connected only to the PLATO system, but some of which were CDC-110s with disk drives and ran mostly Micro-TORTURE :-) lessons. The Micro-PLATO stuff didn't last long, mostly due to the hassle of sucking down a disk's worth of lessons from the central system over a 1200-bps circuit. Don Piven - Chicago IL Claude http://www.members.tripod.com/computer_collector or http://computer_collector.tripod.com

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X-10 (was Re: controlling power)

by lance＠costanzo.net

At 03:30 AM 7/9/01 -0400, you wrote: >On July 9, Neil Cherry wrote: >> X10 was marketed to Radio Shack in 1978 and the first review of it was > X10 was originally marketed by BSR, if memory serves. According to this guy, who worked with X10 from the early days, RS was the 1st US market. BSR came later. http://www.hometoys.com/htinews/oct99/articles/rye/rye.htm Some interesting bits on development and manufacturing, too.

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Historically interesting (?) 'scope - and the winner is....

by r.stek＠snet.net

Well, Steve Ciarcia's Heathkit IO-105 has been won. It was a tough choice amongst the many and varied entries. I lost a little sleep worrying about whether or not I had made the right choice. But to give everyone who entered this contest their due, let me list the runners up before announcing the BIG winner: First and fastest offer - NEC V-20 from Ethan Dicks Best CP/M related offer - NEC V-20 from Ethan Dicks Best 8080-code compatible offer - NEC V-20 from Ethan Dicks Best hardware offer (general) - NEC V-20 from Ethan Dicks Best hardware offer (CPU) - NEC V-20 from Ethan Dicks Best computer related item ever mentioned in a computer magazine - NEC V-20 from Ethan Dicks Last offer - NEC V-20 from Ethan Dicks ... And the BIG winner of this fabulous fuse-blowing marvel is - NEC V-20 from Ethan Dicks Congratulations, Ethan! This 'scope is now yours and the faster I can get it out of my basement, the better. Bob Stek Saver of Lost Sols

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Fw: [GreenKeys] PDP-11

by geoffrob＠stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au

Forwarded from another list, contact originator direct please. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Henry" <ghenry(a)halcomm.com> To: <Greenkeys(a)qth.net> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 6:58 AM Subject: [GreenKeys] PDP-11 > Anyone have the hots for a PDP-11/30 - circa 1980? It's sitting here in > Urbana, IL. Worked last time we used it - maybe 10 years ago. Includes > CRT terminal, 3 hard disk drives (the BIG drives) 2 floppy drives (also > BIG), 3/4 height DEC rack (about 4 1/2 ft.). RSX-11 Operating System, > Runoff Word Processor, VERY early Basic. > > Call me if you're serious. The price is right - and no charge for the dust. > > Bill Henry > HAL Communications Corp. > 367-7373 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- > George W. (Bill) Henry Internet: ghenry(a)halcomm.com > President WWW: halcomm.com > HAL Communications Corp. Phone: 217-367-7373 > 1201 W. Kenyon Rd. FAX: 217-367-1701 > Urbana, Illinois 61801 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- > > > ---- > Submissions: greenkeys(a)qth.net > >

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off topic stuff and flame wars

by brian＠quarterbyte.com

Up to a point I find the off-topic stuff kind of funny... it's like a small town where all the old retired guys sit on the front porch of the old hardware store and BS all day. But when the stort of stuff we're seeing lately shows up, it's no longer charming. The types who engage in the invective we're seeing thrive on attention. Argument and returned insults are exactly what they're seeking. The response should be cold silence. Don't respond to it, don't argue with them, don't acknowledge their presence on the porch until they act like adults. That's my two bits worth. Brian

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Plato terminal

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jul 12, 15:52, McFadden, Mike wrote: > Sridhar wrote > >How do you find out the exact number of feet you're out from the CO? > I think you call up the telco and ask them the question and then they run > some test and report back to you. It's a time-domain reflectometer test. Basically you send a narrow pulse down the cable and look for a spike coming back. You can do it with a pulse generator and an oscilloscope. Trigger the scope from the pulse generator, and display the voltage on the cable. Any discontinuity in the cable will show up as a bump in the trace (a discontinuity might be an imperfect splice, or a sharp bend in a coaxial or twisted pair cable which crushes the cable and distorts the geometry), and unless the end is perfectly terminated, it will cause a reflection which will show up as a spike. Then if you know the cable characteristics, specifically the velocity factor, measuring the time between the pulse and the bumps or spikes allows you to work out how far down the cable they are. The same technique is used for optical fibres. A couple of weeks ago, we had a bunch of about 30 spliced (previously they were connected via two sets of patch panels). The guy who did the splices produced a very fancy optical TDR, which showed the graphs of the returns as well as the times and distances. He was even able to point out where there were patch panels on the far end and estimate how long the attached patch leads were. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Jupiter Ace available (for about $125?)

by sieler＠allegro.com

Hi, I received email from someone offering me a nice condition Jupiter Ace (PAL output), for about US$125. The machine may be in Australia. I have an Ace ... although I wouldn't mind a spare, I don't want one for that much money just now :) If any collector is interested in it, please email me and I'll forward your mail to the guy with the computer. thanks, Stan Stan Sieler sieler(a)allegro.com www.allegro.com/sieler/wanted/index.html www.allegro.com/sieler

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MicroVAX equipment

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 12, Zane H. Healy wrote: > > One man's "classic computer" is another organization's "production > > hardware". > > I totally understand as I know someone that pays real money for them as > well, but that doesn't mean that *I* want to mess with a RA81! My knees are > worth more than the going rate! Oh no, of course not...I wouldn't suggest otherwise. Those buzzards are *painful* to move. -Dave McGuire

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by healyzh＠shell1.aracnet.com

> On July 11, Zane H. Healy wrote: > > I'd say $100 max. In some ways he should be paying you to remove the > > RA81's! > > Heh. I know a guy in Baltimore who pays real $$$ for RA81 HDAs. > > One man's "classic computer" is another organization's "production > hardware". > > -Dave McGuire > I totally understand as I know someone that pays real money for them as well, but that doesn't mean that *I* want to mess with a RA81! My knees are worth more than the going rate! And that last statement is what sometimes makes this hobby almost pay for itself. Zane

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On July 11, Zane H. Healy wrote: > I'd say $100 max. In some ways he should be paying you to remove the > RA81's! Heh. I know a guy in Baltimore who pays real $$$ for RA81 HDAs. One man's "classic computer" is another organization's "production hardware". -Dave McGuire

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Plato terminal

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

I think you call up the telco and ask them the question and then they run some test and report back to you. >How do you find out the exact number of feet you're out from the CO? > >Peace.. Sridhar Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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Collecting vs. My Wife

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Regarding wives, computers, and airports Actually I live across the street from a grass airport. Unlighted no flying after dark. I've only had 1 plane crash land there and he walked up and knocked on my door during dinner. He selected our airport because he didn't want to scratch his airplane on a paved strip. The neighborhood is buying the airport for a park, instead of more houses. My wife humors me about computers mainly because I'm not adverse to boats. The other side of my house is on a lake. Regarding TZ867 and TZ857 DLT library loaders. I have one of each and want to get rid of them. Any interest? Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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Any interest in DG Aviions or an RS/6000?

by ndiablo＠diablonet.net

> I've got a lead on four DG Aviions, CPUs only. They look > to be pretty clean but I didn't have much time to check them > out and there was no way to test any of them. They appeared > to be identical, but I only got to see the back label on one of > them, which was an AV 4300. > > Any interest? Are these MC88000 based? If so, they're kind of neat boxes. I'd be interested in them myself, except I'm really financially strapped myself at the moment. I recall seeing a website for someone who was interested in collecting systems like this; I think it was http://www.m88k.org or something like that. IMHO, the MC88000 based Aviion systems are kind of interesting by their obscurity, as I don't see them at all around by me. > Also, at the same place there's an RS/6000 J50. Again, just the > CPU box itself and no way of testing anything. Probably just an early MCA bus POWER based machine. Again, its kind of interesting in that I don't see IBM RISC stuff very often, but in the grand scheme of things, it's not as interesting as the Aviion stuff (if its 88000 based). > If someone is seriously interested, let me know what they might > be worth (sight unseen, I know) and I'll go back with an offer to > pick 'em up. > > They're located in Maryland, if shipping or pick-up is an issue. Wish I could afford to have you grab some of these in my stead and have them shipped! All in all, they're probably not worth a whole lot of money - they're "just" older UNIX workstations. I'd offer maybe $20-50 per, depending on condition personally in terms of just being able to pick up some new hardware. Others here will probably dispute my idea of a "fair" price, though (I'm probably a bit high off the mark). --Sean Caron (root(a)diablonet.net) | http://www.diablonet.net

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Collecting vs. My Wife

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

You can buy arcade controls (track balls, joy sticks, buttons, etc.) from Happ Controls http://www.happcontrols.com/. Not cheap, but they are the real thing. I have been using a track ball from them for 10 years or so. -----Original Message----- From: Gene Buckle [mailto:geneb@deltasoft.com] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 1:28 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Collecting vs. My Wife <snip> Zane, I've got a neat little gadget called a Hotshot. It's basically wooden tabletop box that's got a pair of arcade controller joysticks and a bunch of buttons on it. <snip>

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MicroVAX equipment

by hofmanwb＠worldonline.nl

The uVax1000 is for real time purposes. A uVax II with a level of memory management removed. Ran typically VaxEln. Last year I desperately needed one to expand an industrial control application. We found one. Wim ---------- > From: Netdiablo <ndiablo(a)diablonet.net> > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: MicroVAX equipment > Date: Thursday, July 12, 2001 5:32 AM > > > It's been nearly a decade since I really dealt with MicroVAXen, > > but I came across a guy who has the following: > > > > MicroVAX 3600 > > uVAX 1000 > > RA81 (2) > > RA90 > > What on earth is a uVAX 1000? I've never heard of that before. I'm > rather curious to know! > > > and some miscellaneous cards, in four cabinets. He got them > > in as part of a truckload of de-installed equipment and doesn't > > have any idea what they're worth. I'm at a loss as to what to > > offer for them, other than (of course) the lowest possible price. > > > > Any ideas on the going rate for this type of DEC equipment? > > In all honesty, the whole lot is really worth less than $100, unless > the MicroVAX 3600 has some really nifty equipment (like a SCSI card) > in it, or that uVAX 1000 is something special, as I really don't know > what that is. > > I'm a little vague on what a RA90 is, but I know the RA81s are huge > drives, and they should probably consider themselves lucky if you're > willing to haul them away! > > > He's also got a DEC MicroServer and some VT 510's. > > VT510s are rather new terminals; they're not actually DEC designed. > These are "technically" probably worth a little bit on the terminal > market, since they're not more than a few years old (probably). On > the used market, however, how much is a relatively standard terminal > worth? > > > The guy was nice enough to give me an RL02K-DC removable > > disk pack (since he didn't know what it was or what it worked > > in), so he seems easy to deal with. (The disk pack did not > > come with the MicroVAX stuff.) > > --Sean Caron (root(a)diablonet.net) | http://www.diablonet.net

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Plato terminal

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> You'll never guess why I am getting two large pipe (7.1 down 1.544 > up) ADSLs installed with my /26 block 8;-) You dirty dogs! Must be nice to live within 14,000 feet of your central office... I'm 19,473 feet out, so until they build a mini-CO to hang some DSLAMs in that's closer to home, cable is my only choice, and as long as certain managers remain there, I will *not* do business with them. So I'm hosed... -dq

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KDA50's available

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

I have several (at least 3) complete KDA50s with the top connectors available. This is a two board set and lets your Q-bus based machine talk to SDI (aka RAxx series) drives. If anyone on the list wants them let me know, postage will be 3 lbs priority mail (about $6 in the continental US) Any not claimed by Monday 5pm PDT go to Ebay, and those that don't sell go into my VCF West pile. --Chuck

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Anyone have a 7 track 1/2 head assembly?

by aek＠spies.com

> The old DECer Henry W. Miller is checking on a set for me... if > he comes through, they're yours. As long as my 7-track conversions > manage to "float to the top"... thanks! I've sent some mail to John Bradtanau as well, to see if there were any 7 track head assemblies for TU10's in the stuff he still has >from the DEC FS warehouse stuff that he bought. I wonder if Tim Shoppa has anything set up for reading 7 track media. He hasn't said much on the topic, or about the techniques he had developed for one pass tape reading.

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Another batch of books, varied types

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

Dang, I'd like the Zenith DOS manual, no interest in anything else in the batch... -dq -----Original Message----- From: Russ Blakeman [mailto:rhblake@bigfoot.com] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 9:19 AM To: Classic computers message group Subject: Another batch of books, varied types Here's a mixed 20 lb batch that the trashman will get if no takers by the night of 7/16.... Focus 6.0 User's Manual (1989) Focus 6.0 Guide to Operations (1989) Borland dBase 2.0 Language Reference (1993) Sybex- Practical Wordstar Uses (CP/M version ?) (1983) Hayden Books - Mastering WordStar (CP/M and DOS version ?) (1984) DAK Wordstar 5.5 User's Guide (yep the same DAK we brought up in a thread) (1991) Microsoft Works Reference for IBM Personal Computers (1989) Tandy - Right Writer User's Manual (1989) Symantec - Deskmate/Q&A Write User's Manual for Tandy/IBM PC (1989) Epson Equity + GW-BASIC 3.20 Manual (1986) Zenith - MS-DOS 4.0 User's Reference (1988) TimeWorks DataManager PC User's Manual for IBM PC and compats (1984) Novell Netware Basic Ops for Mac v2.2 (1991) Novell Netware Installation & Maint for Mac v.2.2 (1991) Tab Books- Mastering the 8088 Microprocessor by Lanny V. Dao (1984) Again..$5.00 for the batch to cover my time plus applicable USPS cheapest rate shipping, payable by check. MO, Billpoint or Paypal. Checks have to clear before shipping. 20 lbs, ships from zip 42726. If someone claims both batches I'll ship the whole 29 or 30 lbs as one unit to save shipping costs. First come, first serve.

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Anyone have a 7 track 1/2 head assembly?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I may be getting some 7 track tapes of some SDS 940 software, and > I'm having one heck of a time finding a 7 track drive in any condition > to build an analog-level tape reader. > > Does anyone have a 7 track head assembly that they can spare? The old DECer Henry W. Miller is checking on a set for me... if he comes through, they're yours. As long as my 7-track conversions manage to "float to the top"... It may be months before I hear back from him, though, so don't put all your eggs in *my* basket...

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Plato terminal

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I wouldn't mind trying to join in on that, can you supply dial-up #'s and > settings??? I think it would be interesting to see if we can all communicate > with one another using Plato access, I have one of the original Plato Terminal > ROM's developed by CDC for use on the Atari 800 computer system using Graphics > Mode 8 (320 X 192) No, actually, they charge for access... and I don't know of any access except over the Internet (although I imagine dial-up and leased-line is still available). I was granted access as a "distinguished visiting scholar". But if you'd like, I'll enquire as to cost of access... maybe it's affordable (i.e. $20/month). Regards, -dq

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Anyone have a 7 track 1/2 head assembly?

by aek＠spies.com

I may be getting some 7 track tapes of some SDS 940 software, and I'm having one heck of a time finding a 7 track drive in any condition to build an analog-level tape reader. Does anyone have a 7 track head assembly that they can spare?

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A classic classiccmp day...

by rwagner＠digalogsys.com

Hi Mike, Do you still need information about the 20 slot Exorbus rack? Rick Wagner Digalog Systems Inc.

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Another batch of books, varied types

by rhblake＠bigfoot.com

Here's a mixed 20 lb batch that the trashman will get if no takers by the night of 7/16.... Focus 6.0 User's Manual (1989) Focus 6.0 Guide to Operations (1989) Borland dBase 2.0 Language Reference (1993) Sybex- Practical Wordstar Uses (CP/M version ?) (1983) Hayden Books - Mastering WordStar (CP/M and DOS version ?) (1984) DAK Wordstar 5.5 User's Guide (yep the same DAK we brought up in a thread) (1991) Microsoft Works Reference for IBM Personal Computers (1989) Tandy - Right Writer User's Manual (1989) Symantec - Deskmate/Q&A Write User's Manual for Tandy/IBM PC (1989) Epson Equity + GW-BASIC 3.20 Manual (1986) Zenith - MS-DOS 4.0 User's Reference (1988) TimeWorks DataManager PC User's Manual for IBM PC and compats (1984) Novell Netware Basic Ops for Mac v2.2 (1991) Novell Netware Installation & Maint for Mac v.2.2 (1991) Tab Books- Mastering the 8088 Microprocessor by Lanny V. Dao (1984) Again..$5.00 for the batch to cover my time plus applicable USPS cheapest rate shipping, payable by check. MO, Billpoint or Paypal. Checks have to clear before shipping. 20 lbs, ships from zip 42726. If someone claims both batches I'll ship the whole 29 or 30 lbs as one unit to save shipping costs. First come, first serve.

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Quicken/DOS books

by rhblake＠bigfoot.com

Have a set of 6 books for the older DOS version of Quicken to find a new home for. Here's what's in it: User's Manual for IBM (version unspecified) User's Manual for IBM/DOS (version unspecified) Upgrade Manual for IBM/DOS (v 5.0) User's Guide for IBM/DOS (v 6.0) Business Uses Guide for IBM/DOS (v6.0) Que "Using Quicken 5" for IBM/DOS All in pretty decent shape except first one has tape across spine but otherwise a useful book. If no takers by Monday 7/16 the "trashman taketh"....the cost below is basically for my time for packing. How much? $5.00 for all 6 plus the applicable cheapest route mailing. Weight 10 lbs from zip 42726. Prefer to use either ebay's Billpoint ot PayPal but can also take money order or check (has to clear 5-10 days). US and Canada only.

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Plato terminal

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > This is two years late, but the terminal the original poster describes > > sounds like an IST (model 1), a CRT-based CDC product, vintage about 1978. > > There was a later edition called the IST-II, also CDC. It had two 8" drives > > and a Z-80 CPU, as well as connectivity to CDC PLATO mainframe systems, > > either by dialup modem (1200 bps) or multiplexer. > > Actually, I was the original poster; a reply to me mentioned the > terminal you're describing. I may have been incorrect in assuming the above was a reply to my post; it appears to have been otherwise.... -dq

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QBUS Board ID?

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

Ok, here is a stump the audience question. I've got a board that I found that was made by SMS. Its dual width, has a 50 pin header that is terminated like a SCSI connection. A boatload of chips one big one marked N8X305N A SKS8427 CT (hand lettered #4 on it) and it is a 50! pin DIP (extra wide like 900 mils vs 300 or 600) There are a bunch of PALs with various serial numbers on them, 3 LEDs on the card edge (with the 50 pin connector) and a few jumpers, one connector marked "P4" (26 pin 2 x 13, .1" spacing) about mid-board. On the back it is marked: ProG Assy: 1002049-0001 Assy No: 0004356-0001 Serial Num TS 1668 Anyway, if I plug it into my trusty VAX and do a SHO DEV it doesn't appear, but if I do a SHO QBUS I've now got what the system thinks is a TSV05 installed. This makes me wonder if it isn't a board that one can connect to a SCSI Cipher tape and get TSV05 emulation out of it. Anyone heard of this thing? --Chuck

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Collecting vs. My Wife

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> >The only computer I use downstairs in my Inspiron 8000. I > >have an 802.11b subnet, so I can sit downstairs with her > >while she's watching some movie or TV show that I don't > >like without falling asleep. > > I've got a Lucent Wavelan 802.11 card in my PB 5300c but > don't use it for anything at the moment. It's only capable of the > 2Mps vice the newer 802.11b standard of 11Mbps. A lot longer range > at the slower speed though...cool cards...and cool idea. Hey, Jeff... What OS do you run on the PB5300? I'm running OS 8.1, but it's a real dog... -dq

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Stuff available in Bristol, UK

by John.Honniball＠uwe.ac.uk

Continuing my clear-out of garage, loft and spare room: Apple Two-Page Monochrome Monitor, Family M1025Z, 100-240V, with 13W3 video input connector. No manuals, cables or info on compatibility. Don't even know if it works. Sun 19" colour monitor, HM-4119-S-AA-0 built by Hitachi, Sun part number 365-1006-01. Works with Sun-3s and the like, with four BNC video inputs. Working order. Printronix P300 dot-matrix line printer. Needs cleaning, but otherwise working. Canon laser print engine. No controller, but a direct video interface to a Sun-3 VME card (included). No driver software. MIPS R4000 case and power supply only. Size of a PC tower-case, maybe slightly larger. Diablo daisywheel printer. Missing daisywheel. Altos P-system machine, twin 8-inch floppy disk drives plus 14-inch hard disk. With boot disks. Epson PC AX 286-based PC clone. Monochrome PC screen Taxan KX-123-B. DEC TU77 reel-to-reel magtape drive. Massbus interface, with formatter for DECsystem-20 (PDP-10). Calcomp 565 digital incremental drum plotter, built in 1960s. Missing pen-holder. Personal Computer World magazines, 1984/85/86 plus a few extra copies from other years. Six Seagate ST42400ND differential SCSI hard disks. 2.1Gb capacity per drive. Compaq laptop power supply, Series 2812 for use with 2810 notebook computers. VAX power supply, model H7100B, 5V, 100A. TeleVideo terminal model TVI925. TeleVideo terminal model TVI970. Acoustic hood for silencing dot-matrix printers. With fan for ventilation. All this stuff is free (although swaps are OK!) for collection in Bristol, near the M4/M5 motorways. E-mail me directly for more info on any of these items. -- John Honniball Email: John.Honniball(a)uwe.ac.uk University of the West of England

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MicroVAX equipment

by ndiablo＠diablonet.net

> It's been nearly a decade since I really dealt with MicroVAXen, > but I came across a guy who has the following: > > MicroVAX 3600 > uVAX 1000 > RA81 (2) > RA90 What on earth is a uVAX 1000? I've never heard of that before. I'm rather curious to know! > and some miscellaneous cards, in four cabinets. He got them > in as part of a truckload of de-installed equipment and doesn't > have any idea what they're worth. I'm at a loss as to what to > offer for them, other than (of course) the lowest possible price. > > Any ideas on the going rate for this type of DEC equipment? In all honesty, the whole lot is really worth less than $100, unless the MicroVAX 3600 has some really nifty equipment (like a SCSI card) in it, or that uVAX 1000 is something special, as I really don't know what that is. I'm a little vague on what a RA90 is, but I know the RA81s are huge drives, and they should probably consider themselves lucky if you're willing to haul them away! > He's also got a DEC MicroServer and some VT 510's. VT510s are rather new terminals; they're not actually DEC designed. These are "technically" probably worth a little bit on the terminal market, since they're not more than a few years old (probably). On the used market, however, how much is a relatively standard terminal worth? > The guy was nice enough to give me an RL02K-DC removable > disk pack (since he didn't know what it was or what it worked > in), so he seems easy to deal with. (The disk pack did not > come with the MicroVAX stuff.) --Sean Caron (root(a)diablonet.net) | http://www.diablonet.net

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Collecting vs. My Wife

by lance＠costanzo.net

At 02:55 PM 7/11/01 -0700, you wrote: >>I guess that's one of the reasons I love her so >>much; she supports my computing habit (she even >>bought me my first Alpha). > >OTOH my wife says if I get the computers out of the livingroom soon she >won't kill me and scatter my bones in the desert. Thats love. She's been watching too much TV - that was a CSI plot. Get rid of the toob, use the space for pooters.

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