On Jul 19, 12:08, Jarkko Teppo wrote:
> Well, NeXT did a few things against unix traditions, NI didn't
> probably work out well
:-)
> but objc, developing environment and the
> windowing system certainly did. One really has to try those to see
> how badly X11 sucks.
I've heard good things about the development environment. I'm not overly
impressed with the window manager, but I've seen much worse. And I can
think of a few shortcomings of X11 (colour [mis]management for one)
> If you end up with a corrupted NI db (badly corrupted) you can reset all
> the NI information by booting single-user and
>
> cp -r /usr/template/client/etc/hostconfig /etc
> cp -r /usr/template/client/etc/netinfo /etc/netinfo
I did almost exactly that after poking about last week. Nice to know it
was the right guess!
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Hello Everyone,
I have more free stuff here in Michigan, plus some that I didn't get rid
of last time. As of now, everything that I have promised people has
been shipped. If I promised you something and you haven't been told a
shipping cost and that it is on its way, please email me. I did have
one guy that I couldn't seem to get an email through to.
I am advertising these items as free, but I ask that you would reimburse
me for shipping. Also please reply off list, as this will be going out
to 2 or 3 lists. This stuff probably won't interest Rescue very much,
but I figured it couldn't hurt to send it anyway.
-NEC IDE cd-rom model CDR-272 (4X, I think)
-generic serial mouse (9pin)
-paperwork for old Hercules Graphics Plus... looks brand new, has floppy
disk too. I bought what was supposed to be the Hercules card on Ebay,
turned out someone had simply stuck there old card in the Hercules box.
Maybe someone with the card might want the manuals?
-Sled for Optical drive for IBM 3510 external case, brand new
-sound card/modem from Packard Bell computer. I don't know how fast the
modem is, but I thought Linux or maybe even Win95 might detect the sound
card chip set. Could be a real cheap way to add sound to your
computer. I see Aztech and Crystal chips, if that means anything.
-Teac 1.2 meg floppy drive, model FD-55GFR, These drives are great if
you need to read and write to 360K floppies. I haven't had too much
trouble doing that, and I have always attributed it to the quality of
the Teac drives I use.
-GraphiCard by Practical Peripherals for the Apple // series. I think
it is some sort of parallel card. no documentation or cables, just the
card.
-3.5" 1.44meg floppy by Panasonic (white face, but whole thing could use
a cleaning)
-Astec PS/2 power supply, 150 watts, This is out of a Packard Bell, but
the only thing I have heard these referred to is PS/2 style. I don't
know why, as I have never seen real PS/2 use a power supply like this.
It has a remote power switch and 4 drive power leads. Looks pretty
standard for a newer, but not ATX, clone box.
-white power cord
-2 IDE cables, 40 pin, one long, one short, pretty generic
-floppy cable, controller end is a header type connector as is the last
floppy connector. The middle connector is the edge type.
-AC adapter for US Robotics Courier modem, output is 20 volts!
-external 3.5" drive for Apple //gs or I think Mac. Model# A9M0106
It's clean but a little beat up.
-Digital (Yes, as in DEC) "Full Video Elite" 16-bit ISA card for Mpeg
Playback practically new, in the original box has all software, manuals,
etc. I bought this at a computer show when it was already "obsolete".
I tried it out on my hoped up 386, but decided I didn't really want it.
It tried about 3 times to sell it on Ebay, but nobody would bid. Then
all of a sudden I saw a flood of them on Ebay going for next to nothing
if at all. I'm just tired of it sitting around! While using it I did
notice some interference in the video, I think the pass-through cable
may need shielding or something.
-black power cable
-baby AT 286 motherboard, has Harris 20mhz chip, uses 30-pin simms, have
4megs installed, 8 ISA slots, AMI bios, PC Chips chip set, will include
extra simms but am unsure of condition of extras. Board has never been
installed, but I did test it before putting it on Ebay. Didn't sell
obviously. I thought about making a little system out of it to use as a
terminal for my MicroVax 3400, but decided I don't need another PC.
-IBM serial/parallel board from IBM AT, uses 16450N uart chip, 8-bit
ISA. This isn't a cheap generic board. It's real IBM hardware.
-some sort of IBM memory board, has serial and parallel ports, 16-bit
ISA, uses 30-pin simms. I never got it to work, I don't know exactly
what kind of simms it uses either. I stuck some simms from a PS/2 Model
60 in it. It might need software too. Real IBM not generic
-full height face plate for Seagate ST-225, I think
-5.25" DD floppies, almost new or new. Not sure how many I'll let go,
maybe 20 to 25.
-springy contacts from the back of an Apple //e case, not sure exactly
which case... they changed it over the years. It's 10.75 inches long,
if that helps.
-Microchannel MFM drive controller FRU 6127874B, I think it's the older
one. It's from a Model 60
-Microchannel Adaptec 1640, I think this one is fried, I couldn't get it
to work, but maybe you want the slot cover or bios chips?
-SMC Microchannel Arcnet card
-Arco Electronics Microchannel IDE card
-2 Suncom Microchannel game cards. I bought these through Ebay, NIB.
They don't seem to work with my Reply Corporation Planer, However. They
don't use an ADF file either.
-Seagate Cabo ST3541A (CFS541A) It's IDE, but some IDE controllers
won't see it... don't know why. 540megs
-2 Miniscribe Model 8425F RLL I believe.
-uSpeed Fast88, I guess this is an accelerator of some sort for an 8088
system. I got it with a clone PC or XT system. Plugs into MB in relay
socket.
-STB video card, MVP2X, dual head card, Tseng Labs chip sets, 16-bit ISA
-ISA IDE and I/O card, almost new, I bought it from Walmart for my first
CD-ROM (32x, to give you an idea of it's age). It's in the box and has
the instructions, 16-bit ISA.
-3 Winchester drive controllers, RLL I think. 2 have floppy ports that
can't be disabled, one has no floppy port. Neat cards, I have one in my
socket 7 system because I blew the MB floppy controller out :-) 16-bit
ISA, and I have an instruction sheet I can make copies of.
-Still have the TIPC (Texas Instruments Professional Computer) No
monitor, keyboard, or OS.
-IBM PS/2 Model 9577, probably about 24megs of ram, 400meg HD, XGA2
card, both floppies, clean.
-Adaptec 2742W EISA wide SCSI card, but has no slot cover. I bought a
generic one, but it didn't have the hole in the correct spot. I have
heard it isn't to hard to make one using a drill press and a file, with
a blank cover.
Please help me clean up my apartment :-)
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
Zane wrote:
>There are MP3 players for 68k Amiga's?!?! That's either rather gutsy, or
>pathetic, I'm not sure which. What do they do, decode them to another
>format and then play them?
There is an MP3 player for 68k NeXTs. See
http://www.wizards.de/~frank/download.html
to get it. The blurb says it runs realtime on Turbo, and 22kHz play
on 25 MHz systems.
- Mark
- Mark
>How can I write a zero-byte program? How does NAV identify this virus if
>it's zero bytes in length? What real threat to my PC is an
e-mail-propagated
>virus of length zero?
Sounds like it patches an existing file. One method of checking for a virus
is to scan files for a tell-tale set of bytes, I would guess that's how NAV
found this one. I just did a Google search for "Magistr" - a whole load of
sites all say the same thing - a month after infection the virus kicks in
and nobbles hard disk sectors, then has a go at the BIOS too. It doesn't
sound like it's that easy to fix :-(
Moral 1: never open an attachment from anyone unless you've confirmed in
advance what it is. It's not enough to say "never open attachments from
people you don't know" because most of these mail virii are spread by using
people's Outlook Address Books... if you're unlucky enough to have a mate
who's got you in his address book and s/he opens a virus attachment you're
going to get the virus delivered from a friendly source...
I used to get some stick from the lads when we go out for beers for never
opening the joke GIFs they mail me - one day I wrote a bit of VBA in a
Word document and sent it to them - all it did was list the contents of C:\
into the document in the same style as the DIR command, then pop up a dialog
saying "Do you want to delete these files?" with only a "Yes" button and the
"X" box system button. Either way once the dialog was closed it then put up
another dialog saying "Thanks for playing" at the same time as deleting each
line in the document (not the actual files, of course!), one a second. The
utter panic this caused amongst 4 supposedly experienced programmers was a
revelation - 4 "what the **** was that?" phonecalls later was enough to
convince me that
a) never trust your mates emails, it might not be from them
b) don't believe your eyes - Word isn't completely WYSIWYG, thankfully :-)
Moral 2: use alternatives to Microsoft, they've lost the plot - as if I
needed to say that on this list :-)
Moral 3: just because it's technically possible doesn't mean it's
particularly desirable. What possible justification can they have for
including a programming language in a word processor? What did Chuck Thacker
call it? Biggerism?
On topic: once I've fixed the PERQ's monitor I'll be hacking clones of elm
and lynx together. I'd like to see anyone infect that machine :-)
-- al
On Jul 19, 8:52, Jarkko Teppo wrote:
[ NeXT documentation ]
> If you install the whole shebang (at least on 3.3) you get the
documentation
> library in (I don't remember) /NextLibrary/something. It doesn't matter
> because the bookshelf-files are in /NextLibrary/BookShelves/. Just double
> click on SysAdmin.bshlf.
Thanks, I'll look tonight.
> > > Man-pages on niload and nidump might help too. Honestly, I never
> > remember
> > > how to do it so I just improvise and create a local NI hierarchy and
> > > use DNS for name resolution.
> >
> > I read them, and realised they didn't tell me enough, mainly because I
> > don't understand the rest of it.
>
> niload is just a helper for loading text-based configuration files into
> the NetInfo DB. nidump does the same in reverse.
I got that far from the man pages, but I need to know which files they
handle and what to turn them into for a single NeXT (in a sea of UNIX
varieties).
> Misc. link:
> http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1060.htmld/1060.html
That looks useful. Thanks!
> > No, NIS is *never* an option ;-)
>
> Heh :) I'm sometimes ready to put NI into same category but that's
> probably just because I have one (or two, if you count white boxes)
> NeXT(s). NI would probably kick ass in an installation with something
> like 100 machines.
Except that it breaks one of the golden UNIX rules; keep the config
information human-readable.
> I must admit that NetInfo can be quite confusing and I can screw up a
> machine pretty easily with it.
I did that too :-) By following the obvious option in the setup and
telling the machine it should use the network. I didn't realise what I was
telling it to use the network *for* :-)
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
> From the UK (ParcelForce):
I wouldn't use Parcel Force personally. Much better to use Amtrak, UPS,
FedEx, anyone ...! They regularly dump stuff on my doorstep without waiting
to see if anyone's in... doesn't matter if it's raining either (it often
is!) }:-|
I gave up complaining about it ages ago, and now just ask people to use
Amtrak instead if possible.
If Parcel Farce can't deliver something from Bristol to Bath without it
getting damaged there's not much hope of them getting it across the
Atlantic... use somebody else and do yourself a favour :-)
-- al
> > Ethan-
> >
> > Are you telling me you came down here to Louisville, KY and
> > grabbed a PDP-8 right out from underneath my nose?
>
> In 1986, yes, 3rd-party cabinet and all.
Oh. Well, ok, in 1986, my consciousness hadn't risen the level
it's on today.
> > Way to go, dude! But let me have the next one, OK?
>
> NP
Que?
Yes, but contiguous 0's are special and easy enough
to detect, and, it would not be difficult for the assembler
to include some initialization code. In the end, this is a
difference in philosophy, asm vs. higher level languages.
You don't expect an assembler to optimize that sort of thing,
but rather, to do exactly as it is told.
Now, I remember when g77 would actually include the
image of a zero-initialized array within a common block
in the executable.... at one point I had a 130MB
executable :-) . This is the opposite case, a high-level
language not optimizing that sort of thing.
Carlos.
At 06:37 PM 7/18/01 -0700, you wrote:
>On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Sean 'Captain Napalm' Conner wrote:
>> some_buffer db 4096 dup(0)
>> end segment
>
>That EXPLICITLY calls for 4K of 0's.
>Virtually no assembler is clever enough to do a run-length compression.
>OTOH, If you wrote
> some_buffer db 4096 dup (?)
>it would set up 4K of "UNINITIALIZED" space, which it COULD compress out
>of the file, particularly if it is at the end.
>
>> . . . So it would be easy enough for a virus to scan the
>> executable for a portion that is nothing but zeros, and hide in there.
>It could always make space within the MICROS~1 copyright message.
>
>--
>Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
>
>
--------------------------------------------------------------
Carlos E. Murillo-Sanchez carlos_murillo(a)nospammers.ieee.org
Today I have received a hint that there is a Superbrain
available for the right price and another mentioning an
altair, with modem and manuals.
I've seen Altairs on E-bay but not a superbrain, what would
be fair offers for these?
Also, does anyone know of newer kits similar to the altair
or mark-8. I found 1 advertised as a computer kit and it
consisted of a mother board, video card, drives, PS and case
and you put them together.
On July 18, Richard Erlacher wrote:
> For about a year there was one sitting in the back room (surplus) at the Denver
> Gateway Electronics store, overpriced at $40.
Overpriced at $40? I had two, sold one on eBay for $200.00 a
year or so ago. I'd pay $40 for one quite readily even if they didn't
have such a high resale value...they're just *cool*. :-)
> They show up from time to time. There's a Heathkit Logic Analyzer there now,
> IIRC, not to mention an old HP model.
Really? What models might they be?
-Dave McGuire
OT, yes (maybe some virii are >10 years old??) but related to programming in
general. Plus, if no one on this list knows the answer, then there probably
*isn't* an answer ;>)
I received a virus in an e-mail attachment a few minutes ago. The sender is
a wholesale supplier I'm acquainted with. NAV spotted the
"W32.Magistr.corrupt" virus, could not repair the infected item, and asked
for permission to delete the item, which I granted.
I looked this virus up in the list of 50K+ virii that NAV currently claims to
cover. No information was available, except that this virus is rare, it
infects .exe files, and it is zero bytes in length.
Now, I've cranked out a couple of boatloads of code over the last 19 years,
and the smallest useful program I ever wrote was 3 bytes in length. It's
easy enough to create a zero byte file, but as far as I can tell such a file
can't *do* anything.
How can I write a zero-byte program? How does NAV identify this virus if
it's zero bytes in length? What real threat to my PC is an e-mail-propagated
virus of length zero?
WTF???
TIA,
Glen
0/0
>I would very much appreciate the help of a U.K. resident in
>calculating postage to ship an approx. fifteen pound box of
>manuals (and floppies) from England to the U.S. We need to
>do this without mortgaging the farm, so a slow boat across
>the pond is preferred. The originating location is:
The originating location is (I think) irrelevant
as long as it is within the UK mainland
(which yours is, unless Cheshire has been
badly flooded lately ...).
If noone else chips in first, I'll have a play on
the scales tomorrow. That would give a price
via Parcelforce (or whoever the Royal Mail
use). I don't have much experience with
shipping in either direction but I'll ask
to see if anyone in the office can find out
how DHL or UPS calculate their charges.
As a very rough estimate, work out how
much the reverse route (i.e. US->UK)
would set you back. I would be surprised
if there is more than a factor of two (but
I bet UK->US costs more !)
A 2kg manual cost about $20 US->UK
about a year ago.
Antonio
I sent Mark Gregory a large quantity of Amiga Worlds about a month ago and
he was to send me a Amiga 1200 for my collection.
No news I a long while. He also offered some books on here IIRC. Anybody
talked to this person recently?
Thanks
Claude
http://computer_collector.tripod.com
On July 18, Pete Turnbull wrote:
> > The chapter did mention NIS (yp) so that *might* be an option.
>
> No, NIS is *never* an option ;-)
BRAVO!!
-Dave McGuire
The above might be avaliable ( with some peripherals ) : it is worth saving ?
I could not find too much info in the net . Around 1980's I assume.
I don't even know if it is a mini or if it is microprocessr based...
Any comments ? ( BTW location Zurich, Switzerland )
Regards, Jos Dreesen
I have a lead on a DEC "Grey Wall" in NYC.
Contact me off list if you're interested.
There are about 20 vols on VMS and 8 vols on VAX-GKS.
The owners will likely toss in one or more vt320's too if you
want 'em. The owner has enough conscience not to just throw
stuff out; I got him to wait another week or three.
My cup runneth over.
John A.
On Jul 18, 13:24, r. 'bear' stricklin wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Pete Turnbull wrote:
>
> > What's special about the RAM for a Sparcstation 5 ?
>
> They're 5 volt, buffered, parity DIMMs. The only popular system that used
> 5 volt buffered DIMMs were the old PowerMacs, which don't use parity.
>
> Even beyond that, there's something else about them. I tried using
> SPARCstation 5 DIMMs in my Apple Network Server (also wanting 5 volt
> buffered parity DIMMs) and the ANS completely refused to see them. That
> was disappointing since SS5 RAM is infinitely more abundant, but oh well.
> I haven't tried the reverse test yet (whether ANS RAM will work in the
> SS5).
Ah, I see. I had assumed they were SIMMS, but I'd never opened up a SS5.
How many pins on the DIMMs?
And I see there was some prolonged discussion about the right DIMMs to use
in Sunblades, on the Sun newsgroups recently. They seem to be a bit of a
minefield. I know the ones SGI use in, eg O2s, are "odd" as well.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
{sorry for the delays in replying, but I only get the digest}
Ok... I broke out the meter, and did a few checks....
Tony Duell suggested:
>That's a nice, simple, circuit to start with. Carefully pull the
>connector off the base of the CRT and check the heater continuity. If it
>is a 7 pin CRT, it's a fair bet the heater pins are numbers 3 and 4.
Well, it was a 7-pin connector, and I put an ohmmeter across pins 3 and 4.
It measured 31.7 ohms. Is that reasonable?
Robert Feldman suggested:
>First thing to check is to make sure that you are getting +12V on contac1
14
>of the circuit board and pin 7 of the inline connector.
I am getting +12V at both of these points (And by the way, thanks for the
pinouts and other information!!)...
Also, I suspect what I am referring to as a composite video output may not
be that at all... It is an RCA jack that is attached to the front of the
case, and is located just to the right of the connector marked "Battery".
It has two wires attached, which go to a 2-pin plug on an "L" shaped circuit
board. The "L" shaped board also contains the Z-80, some 6116 chips, and
other stuff. It also contains the inline connector that Robert gave the
pinout for (and in fact, the 2-pin plug is in very close physical proximity
to the inline connector). I have seen several pictures of Osbornes, and now
that I review them, none have this connector. It does not seem to be a
hacked on modification, since the plug on the "L" shaped board was very
obviously factory done.
I will take Tony's advice and trace back to see if and where the 12V fails.
Thanks!
Rich B.
On Jul 17, 20:22, Richard Erlacher wrote:
> If the refresh memory is to support text and graphics, the pipeline must
be
> two-forked.
Not necessarily. In a BBC Micro, for example, the 6845 is essentially
generating a stream of pixel addresses, since what's stored in the screen
memory is the bitmap of the character, not the character code. That's how
you mix text and graphics on the same screen. When text is written to the
screen, the OS looks up the bitmap(s) of the character(s) and writes the
individual pixels to screen RAM.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Jul 18, 0:45, Tony Duell wrote:
> > Yes, but the schmitt-triggered one has a different problem -- it's too
> > slow! It's a long time ago, and the articles and my notes are buried
near
>
> Right... It's generally recomend for BBC lightpens (See, for example,
> the Advanced User Guide page 369). Are you saying none of these designs
> work properly?
Well, mine ended up having more in it than the one on p.369 (which has just
a Sweet Spot phototransistor mounted in the barrel) - it had a transistor
and bias resistor in there too, along with a CMOS chip to make a
touch-sensitive switch. I can't remember what the Sweet Spot part number
in the AUG is (schmitt or plain) so I can't tell you if that's the one I
used.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Saw this movie last night, and personally I found the use of "real" jargon
to describe what they were doing jarring because it didn't work right. Much
better to have the 'trek like' mishmash of terms that don't make any sense
but sound good.
The "mega system" that was supposed to be the wet dream of hackers
everywhere was this thing with about 8 LCD screens set up in some sort of
technotica holding unit. I thought about this and decided it doesn't work
on a number of levels, not the least of which is that you can't read stuff
on the top displays and you cant use them in parallel. Much cleaner to
build somthing like a jumbotron with 9 screens to give you a 56" monitor
with effectively 4K x 3K resolution. Then you could move things around and
even if they spanned monitors they would be readable.
In terms of classic hardware the multiheaded-ness of my SPARCStation was
useful in that regard, and I do this on my laptop as well (when its
docked). Clearly the BLIT kind of had the idea (Bell Labs Intelligent
Terminal) and the VT340 is nice (like the VT420) in that you can swap
screens easily. I _really_ like the idea of the VT525 on a big screen. I'm
definitely going to have to try that.
There was also an early hack done on Amigas that slaved three of them
running 'Jet' to give you three views and thus a wraparound screen effect.
So what is the ideal visual machine? Opinions?
--Chuck
On Jul 17, 16:54, Richard Erlacher wrote:
> Viewed from the 6845, is the block 1 scan line high?
Yes.
> Getting the horizontal location right, as you'd have to in order to do
precise
> drawing, might be a bit more complicated, don't you think? an 8-pixel
extent of
> uncertainty is quite a bit on a 640-pixel display.
But it's usually less than 8 bits. For example, the pen I built (which had
assorted other problems as per my other responses) was mostly used on a
4-bit-per-pixel display (16 colours) or a 2bpp (4 colour) display, so the
resolution was usually 2 pixels or, at worst, 4.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Hi all,
(And Tony Duell :^)
Repost of a previous msg, as for some wierd reason, I stopped getting
list
traffic for a couple of days.
Investigations at our mail server are inconclusive, but it may be
related to the fact we were using the ORBS database to aid spam control
and this has been
suddenly shut down. Or not.
Anyway, I've missed a couple days traffic and probably some responses to
this.
Have a friends Decstation 5000 power supply with a violently blown fuse.
(8A/250V)
He is a developer of VMS Freeware (in fact the WASD web server) and has
asked me to help.
Culprit is 2 x ZNR 14K241U devices, which I believe are Metal Film
Varistors Surge Absorbers.
The numbering system seems to be obsolete as current ZNR Surge Absorbers
use a quite different system, or I've guessed wrong and they are
something else entirely, but I don't think so.
These two gadgets are wired in series with each other, then connected
across the output of the mains rectifier.
240vac in, so they are across around 300+ vdc.
I could just leave them out and the supply will run, but would much
rather replace them to keep the protection they offer.
Their appear to be no other faults and the history of the incident is
consistent with a switch on surge after an extended holiday (3 weeks)
following daily useage of the machine, so it's possible the reservoir
caps may be just a little leaky or the varistor was just getting tired.
Anyone make sense of the device id so I can figure out what rating to
replace them with.
Device looks rather like a round ceramic capacitor, but gloss black in
colour, marked with white lettering
A Logo consisting of a small square box in top left with a capital M
inside and ZNR in caps next to it
then under it is 14K241U (or the 1's could be ell or i, hard to say).
underneath at bottom left is an reversed italic capital R with a
reversed italic capital L joined to the back main bar of the R.
To the right of this is a small letter s raised above the baseline with
the number 20 after it.
Any help appreciated.
Cheers
Geoff in Oz
> Me, too. My furthest haul was Columbus to Louisville for a PDP-8/L with
> high-speed punch/reader, ASR-33 and BM-08. It's what I show
> off to visitors.
Ethan-
Are you telling me you came down here to Louisville, KY and
grabbed a PDP-8 right out from underneath my nose?
Way to go, dude! But let me have the next one, OK?
;-)
-dq
On Jul 17, 22:12, James L. Rice wrote:
> Thanks to eBay and a couple of list members, I now have my Indy up and
> running and on the 'net using my ISDN router as the gateway. I can also
> ping my office network through the other router. I'm currently running
> IRIX 6.5. It has a R4400SC 150mhz cpu, 192mb ram, a 24bit graphics
> card, Granite kb, mouse and 20" Trinitron monitor, a 2gb hard drive and
> an Indycam. I'm building an external SCSI box to house a DAT drive, the
> CD-ROM, a CD-R drive and a 2gb option drive. Now I need to find a
> Presenter, a Cosmo board, a 10/100 GIO ethernet card, the XZ graphics
> board and floptical drive to have a fairly complete system.
Good luck finding a Presenter and 10/100 GIO at reasonable prices!
> It looks
> good sitting on my desk next to the NeXT TC slab.
On the subject of NeXTs, how do you get a NeXT to use standard files
(/etc/hosts, et al) instead of the netinfo stuff?
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Does anyone know the part number for the KDA50 distribution
panel that mounts on the S-box (the one that is a two-wide
or three-wide cover plate) with the four SDI sockets? Does
anyone have a spare they'd sell? I lucked into a set of
four RA73 drives in the cage with the cable.
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net
I saw an odd-looking Storageworks shelf on eBay. The
opening bid was $19.95, so I figured why not give it
a try and see. The auction closed without any other
bids, so I got the box. After it arrived I took it
apart to see what I could find. It turns out this is
an engineering evaluation shelf for the the next
generation Storageworks product. The design was
cancelled when Compaq bought Digital and they went
with a completely new design (the "universal" shelf).
This shelf is a copper FC storage cabinet with room
for eight FC drives. There's a controller unit and
two 8x4 FC switches. I'm now in the process of getting
an FC controller. This should be interesting.
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net
Before I start, I suspect that I will catch some flak from some
list members over this. If that be the case, then so be it.
With that said, an earlier haul consisted of 115 NeXT machines, all
mono, with roughly 90 slabs and the rest cubes. Also included some
80 monitors, and about a dozen laser printers. And that of course
included keyboards, mice, cables, and boxes of other flotsam.
These were literally days away from being put in the dumpster, so it
was a big task just to rescue them before that happened. Then it took
weeks just to get a decent inventory. From that I realized it would
take months to test eveything. That made me realize that I am a
hobbyist and have no desire to become a NeXT dealer.
With the exception of a couple machines and some other stuff, I sent
the inventory list to Rob at Blackhole. The machines are now in his
capable hands.
Back on 7/9 and under the title "Attention NeXT Owners", I asked if
there were any list members in need of specific items to 'complete'
their machines. I held back enough to probably fill most of those
requests. After I have tested those items to make sure they work,
I will contact those who responded then. After that, I will make
available to the list anything that might still be available.
So under the heading "Recent addition", I can now say that I
have two complete working mono turbo slabs. Needless to say I
maxed them out with the largest hard drives and the most memory
I could find. It was not until I finished with the two machines
did I realize somthing. So I will ask:
Q: What is the the NeXT best thing to having a NeXT machine?
A: Having two NEXT machines & WITH consecutive serial numbers.
As I said, there are probably those that will give me some flak
for 'selling out'. The machines had to be rescued, but I had
no desire to test, pack, and ship that many machines. If you
want to give me hell, go ahead. I use to say that I considered
the day a total loss unless I caught hell from someone. The
line "Make My Day" comes to mind at this point.
On a good note. During my last phone call with Rob, he indicated
he was contemplating a mono slab special. He mentioned the price
of $99.
All of this was in a 10x20 rental storage locker. Although the
NeXT is gone (and I forgot to take pictures), there is still some
other machines there. I will probably post a list of that and
some other stuff shortly. Most of it will be free for the taking.
Mike
Well, I've done it again.
This time, I went all ~1400 miles to San Diego. I've been saving my money
for this one, and it paid off nicely. I picked up:
* PDP-11/20 -- According to the owner, this one worked last time it was
booted (no idea when that was), and I should expect the monitor to still
be loaded in the core.
* PDP-11/20 -- Not known to be in working condition. Missing a few
switches up front and maybe a few boards inside. Basicaly, a spares
machine. The faceplate is the older one that just says "PDP11" instead of
"PDP11/20", and I'll probably transplant it to the working machine for
that reason.
* PDP-11/05 chassis -- In great condition, but with no boards. Anybody
have a set up for trade?
* TU56 -- Looks to be in great condition.
* TC11 -- Looks to be in great condition.
* DECtapes -- About 100 of them. I think there's an operating system and
a fortran compiler in there somewhere.
* A few printsets.
I'd like to find a couple of RK05 drives, maybe a PCxx paper tape
reader/punch, and their controllers to round out this system. Anybody
have any of these up for trade?
Considering that all this was free to a good home and that it fit in the
back of the Suburban I borrowed from my parents, this has turned out to
the be least expensive haul this summer. All in all, I'd say that this
summer has been very successful.
--
Jeffrey S. Sharp
jss(a)ou.edu
On Jul 17, 20:47, Zane H. Healy wrote:
> Um, I hope you got RAM with those systems. If not unless they're 5/110's
or
> 5/170's you're probably better off sticking them on eBay and putting the
> money towards a Sparc 10 or 20. Simply put Sparc 5 RAM costs and arm and
a
> leg unless you get lucky! Only RAM I've found that's worse is
> AlphaStation 500/333 RAM (I've got both a Sparc 5/70, and a AS500/333).
What's special about the RAM for a Sparcstation 5 ?
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Jeffrey S. Sharp WROTE:
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Zane H. Healy wrote:
> > In some ways he should be paying you to remove the RA81's!
>
> They're *that* common?
Ticking time bomb. Someone decided to use
a(n allegedly) cheaper glue even though the
spec more or less said "do not substitute".
The result was that a fair number of RA81s
failed early in service.
They have a bad reputation.
Antonio
I found this on a web page from 1996.
http://www.3dsite.com/3dsite/cgi/publications/daily-spectrum/issue226.html#M
ountainGate
MountainGate will manufacture, market and distribute the RCI line of Video
Disk Recorders (VDR) and Real-time Disk Recorders (RDR) which provide
large-capacity uncompressed storage solutions.
Looks like MountainGate RDR is a real time video recorder.
Mike
mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu
Or you can sign up for DSL service, wait 5 months to get the line brought
into your house, during which time you have to be home for half a dozen
service calls, then the Telco will run the test and tell you that you are
too far away. That was my experience with Telocity and Ameritech in Chicago.
:(
-----Original Message-----
From: McFadden, Mike [mailto:mmcfadden@cmh.edu]
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 3:53 PM
To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'
Subject: RE: Plato terminal
I think you call up the telco and ask them the question and then they run
some test and report back to you.
>How do you find out the exact number of feet you're out from the CO?
>
>Peace.. Sridhar
Mike
mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu
This virus is about 30KB of _assembler_ code:
http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/magistr.shtml
-----Original Message-----
From: Glenatacme(a)aol.com [mailto:Glenatacme@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 10:36 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: OT: Virii
OT, yes (maybe some virii are >10 years old??) but related to programming in
general. Plus, if no one on this list knows the answer, then there probably
*isn't* an answer ;>)
I received a virus in an e-mail attachment a few minutes ago. The sender is
a wholesale supplier I'm acquainted with. NAV spotted the
"W32.Magistr.corrupt" virus, could not repair the infected item, and asked
for permission to delete the item, which I granted.
I looked this virus up in the list of 50K+ virii that NAV currently claims
to
cover. No information was available, except that this virus is rare, it
infects .exe files, and it is zero bytes in length.
Now, I've cranked out a couple of boatloads of code over the last 19 years,
and the smallest useful program I ever wrote was 3 bytes in length. It's
easy enough to create a zero byte file, but as far as I can tell such a file
can't *do* anything.
How can I write a zero-byte program? How does NAV identify this virus if
it's zero bytes in length? What real threat to my PC is an
e-mail-propagated
virus of length zero?
WTF???
TIA,
Glen
0/0
>Charles E. Fox wrote:
> I would very much like to get a copy of the Osborne
> 1 manual. I
> have been searching the web, but haven't located anything so
> far. If you
> want to scan yours and post it, you would be doing a great service.
Scanning is no problem - I can scan the
user guide (or whatever the correct title
is), always assuming the sheet feeder
does not eat the bog roll it seems
to be printed on :-)
I doubt I could post more than a CD
since previous experience leads me
to believe that the FS manual will
end up in the region of 50-100MB
and the UG could easily top 200MB.
I'll leave it up to some genereous
hoster to make them generally available
(and possibly split them up for
those with narrow straws between them
and the net).
I have other commitments that mean this
probably won't happen until mid-August.
Give or take six months :-)
Antonio
arcarlini(a)iee.org
Hello all,
To answer the replies so far....
1) There is a small black connector labeled "Do no remove when power is on"
or something to that effect. I does indeed cover a card-edge style
connector. I did remove it, power OFF, and I didn't recall it had anything
conductive inside. It just looked like a plastic plug. I'll have to look
again, when I go home this evening...
2) I did try the composite video output. Nothing there, either.
3) As I stated before, there was no light from the CRT at all, after taking
the cover off and powering up. I will perform the ohmmeter test suggested
by Dave McGuire tonight.
- As for the composite video connector... Does anyone know if there is any
magic keystroke or other setting to enable this? Perhaps if the internal
monitor is dead, I can still use an external one...
> Feldman, Robert wrote:
>
>I have an Osborne I Technical Reference manual, ut it is a bit
skimpy on the
>video (no circuit diagrams, for example). It does provide a pinout
for the
My Osborne came with a folder (hand-)labelled
"Field Service Manual" full of odds and ends
... including a bunch of schematics.
At least two of the schematics have traces
labelled VIDEO so I assume that for once
I'm lucky and I actually have a reasonable
amount of info about one of my machines :-)
I can scan the schematics assuming
a) someone wants them
and
b) someone has somewhere I can ftp them two.
Antonio
arcarlini(a)iee.org
On July 18, Mike Ford wrote:
> An electron microscope, or sad to say all the bits for one, just showed up
> at the UC Irvine (calif) salvage yard. What a mess.
Any vacuum pumps intact?
-Dave McGuire
Can someone tell me the specs on this 8" drive?
Magnetic Peripherals Inc. (a subsidiary of Control Data Corp., CDC)
Equipment Identification Number: BR8A5R
Part Number: 75744087
Series Code: 09
Ideally, I need to know what its equivalents are. I'm sure it's a pretty
standard DSDD 8" drive but I need to know for sure before I go off on a
wild goose chase.
Thanks!!
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
> Thanks to eBay and a couple of list members, I now have my Indy up and
> running and on the 'net using my ISDN router as the gateway. I can also
> ping my office network through the other router. I'm currently running
> IRIX 6.5. It has a R4400SC 150mhz cpu, 192mb ram, a 24bit graphics
> card, Granite kb, mouse and 20" Trinitron monitor, a 2gb hard drive and
> an Indycam. I'm building an external SCSI box to house a DAT drive, the
> CD-ROM, a CD-R drive and a 2gb option drive. Now I need to find a
> Presenter, a Cosmo board, a 10/100 GIO ethernet card, the XZ graphics
> board and floptical drive to have a fairly complete system. It looks
> good sitting on my desk next to the NeXT TC slab.
I'm more than a little green with envy!
> Now for my next project, to get the Sparc Station 5's I bought the other
> day up and running!
Um, I hope you got RAM with those systems. If not unless they're 5/110's or
5/170's you're probably better off sticking them on eBay and putting the
money towards a Sparc 10 or 20. Simply put Sparc 5 RAM costs and arm and a
leg unless you get lucky! Only RAM I've found that's worse is
AlphaStation 500/333 RAM (I've got both a Sparc 5/70, and a AS500/333).
Zane
A 11/780 and a Sun 3/470 up for grabs near Dallas.
Bill
----- Forwarded message from Roger Garcia <win2x(a)hotmail.com> -----
From: "Roger Garcia" <win2x(a)hotmail.com>
To: mrbill(a)decvax.org
Subject: Vax 11/780 - Sun 3/470 w/ Mass storage
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 18:38:19 -0500
Bill,
Hello, I emailed you previously about a rescue for a Sun 3/470 w/ Mass
Storage. There is a Vax 11/780 in need of rescue in Richardson,Tx 75081.
Very large but could be a "vaxbar project for someone", I saw on ebay where
some boards from a 11/785 went for $100.00 we would like to recover some of
our costs for picking it up,if possible. I also still have the 3/470 with
mass storage unit still available. If you know anyone interested in these
units please have them email me for contact information.
Sincerely,
Roger Garcia
win2x inc.
_________________________________________________________________
Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
----- End forwarded message -----
--
Bill Bradford
mrbill(a)mrbill.net
Austin, TX
On Jul 18, 0:45, Tony Duell wrote:
> > Yes, but the schmitt-triggered one has a different problem -- it's too
> > slow! It's a long time ago, and the articles and my notes are buried
near
>
> Right... It's generally recomend for BBC lightpens (See, for example,
> the Advanced User Guide page 369). Are you saying none of these designs
> work properly?
Well, mine ended up having more in it than the one on p.369 (which has just
a Sweet Spot phototransistor mounted in the barrel) - it had a transistor
and bias resistor in there too, along with a CMOS chip to make a
touch-sensitive switch. I can't remember what the Sweet Spot part number
in the AUG is (schmitt or plain) so I can't tell you if that's the one I
used. I bought both types, and one other photodiode (or phototransistor?)
>from the RS cat.
I see that page also refers to a fudge factor to be subtracted from the
register contents -- I remember having to do that too.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
GOOD NEWS! GOOD NEWS!!
THE COOLEST MINI-BIKE'S PRICE HAVE BEEN CUT DOWN !! :)
THE U.PRICE IS BETWEEN USD15-23.00. PLEASE CONTACT WITH US FOR
MORE DETAILS OR VISIT OUR WEBSITE!
** http://gafucom.ebigchina.com **
MINI- BIKE --- design fashionable, rubble wheels,front& back suspension
.. It is a wonderful new product for body shape, very popular in USA,
Japan, Europe, … Welcome to inquiry us . What's more, we can supply
Trimmer Belt, Electric scooter, Pingpong TV Game,Pogo stick, AB Slide,
Flying shoes, MP3&VCD,CD- 3in1 player, DDR., etc
Shenzhen Choices Industry co.,ltd.
> TEL :86 13823677077 3709573 3183037 Ms. Shirly Wang
> Fax: 86 755 3183037
> E-mail: shirly887(a)963.net
gafucom(a)alibaba.com
http://gafucom.ebigchina.com
尊敬的客户:
我们提供的瘦身车现已进行价格调整,价格在USD15~23之间,详情请和我们联系!
生产供应迷你车(瘦身车)---MINI BIKE ,精心设计,它造型豪华美观,
有前后避震,轮子采用实心橡胶轮,它是用于良好的瘦身运动,现流行于
美,日,欧等多个国家。欢迎有意客商前来联系垂询!有图片并能立即提
供样品!另还提供多款电动滑板车和娃娃跳,飞行鞋,健腹器,跳舞毯,
MP3/VCD/CD 3合1便携式播放器,触摸屏万年历/计算器/名片夹3 合1,
等等。 详情请光临我们的网站http://gafucom.ebigchina.com
---------------------------------------------------------------
该邮件由《金锋邮件群发 2.0》发送,邮件内容与软件作者无关
---------------------------------------------------------------
金锋软件,值得信赖的软件 http://www.jinfengnet.com
> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 22:05:31 -0400
> From: "Curt Vendel" <curt(a)atari-history.com>
> Subject: PDF file of Canon CAT instructions....
>
> I know I'm a bit slow, but here is the link to the Adobe PDF file
> of the handwritten instructions for using the Canon CAT, enjoy.
>
> http://www.atari-history.com/archives/pdf/misc/canon_cat.pdf
Handwritten instructions for a word processor. Hmmm...
Paul R. Santa-Maria
Monroe, Michigan USA
I've been accumulating the damages from a recent thunderstorm. Wow!
Originally I thought
it was just a GFI breaker and the phones. But it turns out that a
computer got hit (just a PC),
and the cable box as well as a TV. I'm making a list (8 entries so far).
Thank God my bro-in-law
here in Maryland gave me a surge supressor that I put on my SWTPC. Makes
me think I need
more of those things.
Anyone else have such an event happen? Also, take this as a warning to
protect you most valuable
possessions. I intend to get a few more surge suppressors to protect
stuff. This is the one and only
time that this has happened to me, and I'm felling lucky.
Eric
Hi all.
I finally found some time to continue scanning doc.
So far I scanned (at 600 dpi) the following manuals.
Each chapter is a separate TIFF file.
- PDP-11/34 system user manual
- PDP-11/34 maintenance manual
- PDP-11/34A power system description
- KY11-LB SLU/RTC programmers console/interface
operation & maintenance manual
- DL11-W SLU/RTC operators manual
Also the following Field Maintenance Print Sets (FMPS)
and Engineering Drawings (ED) are scanned at 600 dpi.
They are broken into several parts, though the files
are still quite big.
- 11/03 Engineering Drawings
MP00049 & MP00050 KD11
MP00051 MMV11-A G653, H223
MP00052 EIS & FIS, backplane, power assy, H780
MP00055 DLV11
BA11-M, H9270-A, H780
- FMPS DD11-A
- ED DD11-D
- FMPS DRV11 MP00054 (M7941)
- FMPS LA38 MP00754
- FMPS LA8 MP00075
- FMPS LAX35-CL MP00714 (20 mA current loop), MP00738
- FMPS LAxx MP00248 serial interface
- FMPS MXV11-A MP00730 (M8047)
The list above is 300 Mb.
So still some 340 Mb to go to fill an other CD-ROM.
Next I will scan the 11/34 FP processor and the cache,
after that I will start on the 11/35 and core (MF11).
Anyway, is there interest in these high quality (I think)
scans?
happy holidays,
Henk.
Thanks to eBay and a couple of list members, I now have my Indy up and
running and on the 'net using my ISDN router as the gateway. I can also
ping my office network through the other router. I'm currently running
IRIX 6.5. It has a R4400SC 150mhz cpu, 192mb ram, a 24bit graphics
card, Granite kb, mouse and 20" Trinitron monitor, a 2gb hard drive and
an Indycam. I'm building an external SCSI box to house a DAT drive, the
CD-ROM, a CD-R drive and a 2gb option drive. Now I need to find a
Presenter, a Cosmo board, a 10/100 GIO ethernet card, the XZ graphics
board and floptical drive to have a fairly complete system. It looks
good sitting on my desk next to the NeXT TC slab.
Now for my next project, to get the Sparc Station 5's I bought the other
day up and running!