My understand of PDP-1s is that if there are 10 left it's a lot.
the only two I know of was the BCM Machine and one up in
Whitehorse {or was it Yellowknife} running Log/wood mill
accounting system.
Allison
-----Original Message-----
From: John Allain <allain(a)panix.com>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: value of classic DEC machines?
>>> Now a PDP-1 would certainly be worth 100KUS$,
>
>>..to a collector who had US$100K to throw away and
>> absolutely HAS to have the first PDP-1...
>
>Worth, Costs, Is Valued at... all highly relativistic concepts
>don't you think?
>
>What about history? My book says that only 50 PDP-1's
>were produced. Almost certainly 50%++ were scrapped.
>Anybody know where all the PDP-1's are? I'd like to see
>one (or more).
>
>John A.
>
>
>BTW, on thread. A good clean runnung PDP-11 with SW
>and docs can fetch over $4K, to the original question.
>
>John A.
>
>
> > Dear Sir
> > I have a 1000 sq. ft warehouse full of used DEC pdp and pre IBM p.c.
> > equipment / manuals / spares etc.
> > I need someone to help me get rid of all of it. I realize it has some
> > value on Ebay but my lease has run out and I need to recover some of my
> > costs ASAP.
> > I am in California on the central coast.
> > Any suggestions.
--
I talked to Ken this afternoon.
He needs 3-4K to cover the back rent on the storage
and is looking for someone to take all this stuff and
sell it on eBay for him. He thinks it's worth $100000
I may go down there on Friday to see what's there
assuming he can find the item that he says he has
that I'm looking for.
Hi,
I just got an Emulex QD21 (thanks iseldure! I've got $10 here for you
for postage) and I've been playing with it, with some Maxtor XT-4380E
drives.
I'm managing alright to a point. I downloaded docs for the QD21, set dip
switches and I can get into the controller's firmware. The problem arises
when it comes to do things with the disks. If I tell the controller the
disk is type 2, then it picks up settings from the drive fine (and they
even co-relate with the drive), but any operations I perform on the drive
after that (even "Show known devices") times out.
I tried selecting the format option. If I set the drive as type 2 and
let it pick up setting from the drive, it times out the operation before
reading the media defect list. If I set the drive as type 1, and punch in
the settings from the QD21 docs for the Maxtor XT-4380E, then it starts
formatting, then after a couple of minutes of activity, the drive makes
some noises (which I don't think sound healthy) then times out again.
I only have one data cable, and if I just use the one drive (which
appears to be terminated) then nothing appears to work - things just time
out. If I hook up another drive and change drive IDs, then I can perform
the format operation as defined above.
Needless to say, I'm a little stumped.
The controller is in an MV3300, but I've not got VMS working on there
ATM, so I'm not sure about configuring an interupt vector for it.
If it's any help to people, I can get listings from the console, it's
just not particularly easy as I don't have a serial cable to hook the vax
to my PC with me, only the vt420.
I don't really know ESDI, and I'm not that familiar with QBus - only
some details, ordering of cards, etc.
Any thoughts welcome :&)
--Matt
David A Woyciesjes was found to ask thusly:
>
> Does anyone know if there is a free/share/money-ware program that
> can turn a Mac into a DHCP server? For use on an older 68k Mac...
Yeah, sort-of, if you can find it.
Vicom Technologies (www.vicomtech.com) has a product that's
undergone a few name changes and feature orgies. Originally
named "Vicom Internet Gateway", then "Vicom Soft Router", and
maybe back to the original name... it's a software-based NAT
router. It includes a built-in DHCP server.
It wasn't expensive... it came bundled with Applshare IP 5.0,
and when we finally purchased a cross-platform upgrade, that
was either US$29 or US$79.
At one time, you could download trial versions of the package.
Additionally, if you hunt around, you'll find the magix needed
to make the evaluation period last a very, very long time. ;-)
hth,
-doug q
Gunther,
Appreciate the info, get my end done and hope the electricians aren't too
far off for moving the 220's to where I need them. Thanks again.
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Gunther Schadow
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:37 AM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ...
Phil, I did convert to 220 single. I made my own reference along
the way. Here goes:
http://aurora.rg.iupui.edu/~schadow/VAX/power.txt
regards,
-Gunther
Phil Schilling wrote:
>
> Gunther,
> Slightly off your topic, but did you convert the power to 220
single phase
> on your 6000? If so exactly which reference did you follow. I need to
set
> up both my 6000 and the drive array for single phase so I can get them
fired
> up. Thanks
>
> Phil Schilling
> GCS Tech
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Gunther Schadow
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:02 PM
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org; port-vax(a)netbsd.org
> Subject: first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ...
>
> Hi,
>
> after my pretty good VAX treck last weekend (more details coming
> up on my project web site at a later time) I finally have SDI disks.
> I hooked one up last night and did all the checking as per the
> RA9x manual (yes I have one plus many more, will scan those at
> some time...) and it seems to be O.K. (even though it was pretty
> messed up stored in a barn among lots of birds for many years).
>
> Here is one para about where I am at and then I have some
> specific questions for Geoff Roberts or Ragge or anyone who
> has had experienced any luck with getting a 6000 up to operation.
>
> I have bootable tape for Ultrix 4.1 and VMS 5.3 both TK50. None
> of them work. I seem to have no luck with the TK70 and I have
> no way finding out what's wrong. I tried to boot from that RA90
> disk, even though I don't know what's on it. It has unit #0, so
> I thought it might be a system disk. But that too failed with
> some I/O error very early in the process. I also have a TU81+ and
> VMS bootable tape on 9-track, maybe that's more reliable? Tonight's
> project is to move the TU81+ into the basement and hook it up.
> I'm afraid I'll get stuck there too and what then? Network
> booting?
>
> Here's some more detail and questions:
>
> The TK50 boot proceeds for quite a while, although it never shows
> any message on the console about where it is at before it halts
> due to some unspecified error. However, about one or two minutes
> into the tape running the system-panel's FAULT light comes on and
> at the same time both yellow and green LEDs on the TKB70 board
> extinguish. That's for about a second or two. Then the lights
> go back to normal and the fault light turned off. Another 30
> seconds to a minute tape streaming and the same light-spiel happens
> again: fault on, TKB70 LEDs off, and back to normal. Now a shorter
> time (like 10 seconds) of tape streaming and again. From now on that
> repeats for about 4 or 5 more cycles and finally the system is
> halted and console says: system halted due to previous error.
> However, no error message is being printed. I have no idea where
> I am in the process.
>
> I have tried cleaning the TK70 read/write head of course. I have
> tried a different copy of that Ultrix tape. It's always the same.
>
> Is this bliking of fault and shutting off of both TBK70 LEDs
> normal for media read errors or does it indicate something more
> serious? How can I tell where in the process I am? Is there an
> error flag somewhere in memory that I could EXAMINE to find out
> what is wrong?
>
> BTW: at first I had my CIBCA cards in and the boot process would
> halt earlier: system would say "insufficient memory for CI" and
> "10% or more of the memory is bad". Who is checking memory there?
> I could not find anything in Ultrix 4.2 sources that would generate
> such a message. And why would it anyway, because my system check
> tells me that I have 512 MB of memory OK. Or does it speak of
> 10% of the CIBCA's internal memory?
>
> Is there a boot flag that I could turn on that would cause the
> loader etc. to be more verbose?
>
> Has anyone tried booting Ultrix over the network? I am going to
> try that but all I have is Ultrix on TK50 (that doesn't work)
> and sources without any VAX running to compile them on. Is there
> a cross compiler suite? I'd like to compile with the DEBUG
> flag set.
>
> Thanks for your suggestions,
> -Gunther
>
> --
> Gunther_Schadow-------------------------------http://aurora.rg.iupui.edu
> Regenstrief Institute for Health Care
> 1050 Wishard Blvd., Indianapolis IN 46202, Phone: (317) 630 7960
> schadow(a)aurora.rg.iupui.edu------------------#include <usual/disclaimer>
--
Gunther_Schadow-------------------------------http://aurora.rg.iupui.edu
Regenstrief Institute for Health Care
1050 Wishard Blvd., Indianapolis IN 46202, Phone: (317) 630 7960
schadow(a)aurora.rg.iupui.edu------------------#include <usual/disclaimer>
>Yeah, sort-of, if you can find it.
>
>Vicom Technologies (www.vicomtech.com) has a product that's
>undergone a few name changes and feature orgies. Originally
>named "Vicom Internet Gateway", then "Vicom Soft Router", and
>maybe back to the original name... it's a software-based NAT
>router. It includes a built-in DHCP server.
>
>It wasn't expensive... it came bundled with Applshare IP 5.0,
>and when we finally purchased a cross-platform upgrade, that
>was either US$29 or US$79.
>
>At one time, you could download trial versions of the package.
>Additionally, if you hunt around, you'll find the magix needed
>to make the evaluation period last a very, very long time. ;-)
Although, lots of people use and love Vicom's SoftRouter (I think that is
the name it is going by now)... I would like to point out that last I
knew, it uses its own TCP/IP stack, and not Apple's OpenTransport. The
Vicom stack has been known to provide incompatibility with some software
that wants to use OpenTransport. I have also heard that Vicom's is more
unstable in general (but I guess that might be dependant on what version
of OpenTransport you compare it to, as early versions of OT were very
unstable in their own right). This might have changed by now, but I would
confirm it before buying.
And then just to give a plug to Sustainable Softworks... their
IPNetRouter product does everything Vicom's does (and more I believe),
and is priced pretty much the same ($49 for 68k only, $79 for PPC and
68k). I don't have any connection with Sustainable Softworks, I am just a
VERY VERY satisfied customer (I put them as the #1 best company I have
ever had to deal with).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
On Oct 23, 16:35, Iggy Drougge wrote:
> Mike Ford skrev:
> >Just for laughs I made a search just now of my email address
> >mikeford(a)socal.rr.com, and I got 233 hits via the Google usenet group
> >search. I really honestly only get maybe 5 bits of spam a day, and 80%
of
> >those I know I foolishly signed up for at some time recently. Have you
> >spamphobs ever considered that maybe you get a lot of spam because you
mung
> >your email address, or that you don't have a profile in any spam
databanks?
> I did a Google Groups search as well, and got over 10 000 hits on my
address.
> Perhaps is one subjected to spam because one is an active netizen?
Well, I just tried a Google Groups search, for comparison, and got 14 hits.
I got 1020 from a straight Google (web) search, the majority from
ClassicCmp (at least amongst the first few screenfuls).
I don't especially like munged addresses either, but providing it's obvious
(and obvious how to undo the obfuscation) I think it may be a necessary
evil at times.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Gunther,
Slightly off your topic, but did you convert the power to 220 single phase
on your 6000? If so exactly which reference did you follow. I need to set
up both my 6000 and the drive array for single phase so I can get them fired
up. Thanks
Phil Schilling
GCS Tech
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Gunther Schadow
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:02 PM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org; port-vax(a)netbsd.org
Subject: first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ...
Hi,
after my pretty good VAX treck last weekend (more details coming
up on my project web site at a later time) I finally have SDI disks.
I hooked one up last night and did all the checking as per the
RA9x manual (yes I have one plus many more, will scan those at
some time...) and it seems to be O.K. (even though it was pretty
messed up stored in a barn among lots of birds for many years).
Here is one para about where I am at and then I have some
specific questions for Geoff Roberts or Ragge or anyone who
has had experienced any luck with getting a 6000 up to operation.
I have bootable tape for Ultrix 4.1 and VMS 5.3 both TK50. None
of them work. I seem to have no luck with the TK70 and I have
no way finding out what's wrong. I tried to boot from that RA90
disk, even though I don't know what's on it. It has unit #0, so
I thought it might be a system disk. But that too failed with
some I/O error very early in the process. I also have a TU81+ and
VMS bootable tape on 9-track, maybe that's more reliable? Tonight's
project is to move the TU81+ into the basement and hook it up.
I'm afraid I'll get stuck there too and what then? Network
booting?
Here's some more detail and questions:
The TK50 boot proceeds for quite a while, although it never shows
any message on the console about where it is at before it halts
due to some unspecified error. However, about one or two minutes
into the tape running the system-panel's FAULT light comes on and
at the same time both yellow and green LEDs on the TKB70 board
extinguish. That's for about a second or two. Then the lights
go back to normal and the fault light turned off. Another 30
seconds to a minute tape streaming and the same light-spiel happens
again: fault on, TKB70 LEDs off, and back to normal. Now a shorter
time (like 10 seconds) of tape streaming and again. From now on that
repeats for about 4 or 5 more cycles and finally the system is
halted and console says: system halted due to previous error.
However, no error message is being printed. I have no idea where
I am in the process.
I have tried cleaning the TK70 read/write head of course. I have
tried a different copy of that Ultrix tape. It's always the same.
Is this bliking of fault and shutting off of both TBK70 LEDs
normal for media read errors or does it indicate something more
serious? How can I tell where in the process I am? Is there an
error flag somewhere in memory that I could EXAMINE to find out
what is wrong?
BTW: at first I had my CIBCA cards in and the boot process would
halt earlier: system would say "insufficient memory for CI" and
"10% or more of the memory is bad". Who is checking memory there?
I could not find anything in Ultrix 4.2 sources that would generate
such a message. And why would it anyway, because my system check
tells me that I have 512 MB of memory OK. Or does it speak of
10% of the CIBCA's internal memory?
Is there a boot flag that I could turn on that would cause the
loader etc. to be more verbose?
Has anyone tried booting Ultrix over the network? I am going to
try that but all I have is Ultrix on TK50 (that doesn't work)
and sources without any VAX running to compile them on. Is there
a cross compiler suite? I'd like to compile with the DEBUG
flag set.
Thanks for your suggestions,
-Gunther
--
Gunther_Schadow-------------------------------http://aurora.rg.iupui.edu
Regenstrief Institute for Health Care
1050 Wishard Blvd., Indianapolis IN 46202, Phone: (317) 630 7960
schadow(a)aurora.rg.iupui.edu------------------#include <usual/disclaimer>
>> BTW, on thread. A good clean runnung PDP-11 with SW
>> and docs can fetch over $4K, to the original question.
I ever wanted to get one VAX/11 730 like one that we had in
my old Computing Courses school and, related with it, a couple
of PDP systems, compounding all of them a little network.
My hope was that these machines some day could be only
trash stuff and this could be the way to get one.
In the actual day I only have one PDP-11/23 PLUS that works
but only has 256 Kb. of memory, and a diverse stuff that can be
connected to it but needs some more additional stuff like a rack
support, some boards and cables. Almost everything I need
mustbe purchased. A few months ago this appears to be cheap
and quick, but not now. And some items destinated to enhance
the machine appears very far and expensive, like one expansion
memory of 4 megabytes, or one good SCSI board.
Of course, I try to don't think anymore in obtain one VAX/11
in any way, or one PDP/11 70 or 44. Even one that I could
obtain in UK was cancelled because any transport agency
wanted to transport it to my country. And my city even have
one regular ferry line with the UK every week !! (this was
bad luck, I recognize).
In this context, one cause or another can do that one machine
like one PDP-11/70 grows in its value until incredible limits.
In fact, I check the eBay bidders many times and I see a lot
of auctions are bidded and even winned by people with very
few (or 0) feedback. Computer collectors matures ?
I don't think so.
Greetings
Sergio
> SP [mailto:spedraja@ono.com]
> I'm in Spain, Antonio, in the North (Santander).
>
> Thanks. Your option appears to be the better and less
> expensive, if you permit to me the comment :-)
>
I'll pack one up and try and work out postage
on Monday (I'm away from the office after
today). I'll let you know how much it
is then, if you're still keen and noone else
finds one nearer to you.
If you can supply a working email
address (the one above just bounced
...) then I can talk to you without
bothering the rest of the list :-)
Antonio
arcarlini(a)iee.org
>Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:13:58 -0700
>From: Geoff Reed <geoffr(a)zipcon.net>
>Subject: Re: ISA cards for free...
>At 09:21 AM 10/23/01 -0400, you wrote:
>>Hello all,
>>
>>Cleanout time again... I have the following ISA cards available for cost
of
>>postage only. These cards were part of a lot I picked up just for the two
>>Compaticard II cards that were in the pile :-).
>
>You lucky bastige :)
Yup, but it's the law of affinity. I bought a nice Compaticard IV (thanks
Don!), but have yet to get it working with my 8" drives (no tech problems,
just too busy). Then I found a Compaticard II on eBay for a decent price,
then I found these two in another lot from eBay. One of them is odd in the
sense that it has a D-connector out the back (37 pin, I think), but no
internal 34-pin header for a floppy cable. It doesn't look modified, so I
think it came from the factory that way.... Weird.
Also, EVERYONE wants the SCSI cards, so I'll be putting names in a hat...
I'll wait a day and then draw straws :-)
Rich B.
Indeed, caddies for the RRD40 are not easy to find.
At least over here in The Netherlands.
I have a DECstation 3100 with Storage Expansion and RRD40,
but I am also still looking for at least one caddy as I
do not have any (yet).
- Henk.
I'm in Spain, Antonio, in the North (Santander).
Thanks. Your option appears to be the better and less
expensive, if you permit to me the comment :-)
Greetings
Sergio
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Carlini, Antonio <Antonio.Carlini(a)riverstonenet.com>
Para: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Fecha: mi?rcoles, 24 de octubre de 2001 16:57
Asunto: RE: Caddy for one DEC-RDD40 external cdrom unit
>John Allain [mailto:allain@panix.com]
>> I have spares for the '42. if they're the same as the '40 you
>> can have one. I think they're Very common. I don't think
>> I've seen a caddied CDROM drive that Doesn't use this
>> type of caddy.
>
>The RRD42 is (IIRC) a Sony unit (possibly
>with modified firmware). It takes
>a "standard" caddy.
>
>The RRD40 is a much older Philips(?)
>CD-ROM (1x) and it takes a caompletely
>different form of CD holder (often
>referred to as "antlers").
>
>FWIW: the RRD43 is a tray-loader and
>the RRD44 is back to a caddy. The
>first DEC CDROM drive was the RRD50, which
>was essentially a tabletop, caddyless
>(flip open the top and load CD)
>RRD40 (except, I believe, *slower*!!).
>
>I have at least one RRD40 CD holder,
>which I can supply if noone nearer
>can dig one up (I'm in the UK).
>
>
>Antonio
>> Do anyone has one Caddy for one DEC-RDD40 external
>> cdrom unit ?
>
>I have spares for the '42. if they're the same as the '40 you
>can have one. I think they're Very common. I don't think
>I've seen a caddied CDROM drive that Doesn't use this
>type of caddy.
This caddy don't appears to be the usual caddy that
most common CDROM's used. I have one of these
and don't go well. The entry ranure of the CD device
is more THIN than the others, and this don't work.
It can be too a problem of my caddies: I have two NEC
caddies to probe, and any of it works.
Greetings
Sergio
Stupid that I did not think of trying SJ.
With SJ entering .R ADVENT starts Adventure also!
I assumed that VBG was for Virtual BackGround, so
nice to be comfirmed on that.
Indeed, I have E11 running on an 486DX2/66, but I
cannot give an idea of how fast it runs, compared
to a PDP-11. Although E11 can be set to an 11/70,
I have set it to /35-40 because that is also the
*real* hardware I have. Never set it to /34(A) or
to /44. Both those systems I also have running.
Next time that I start the 11/35 I will run ADVENT
on both of them and measure the time until the
welcome message appears on the screen.
For the "blinkenlights" check out my webpage.
http://home.hetnet.nl/~tshaj/pdpsite/pdpstartpage.html
then click in the left pane on the link Homebrew 'PDP-11'.
At this moment only the LEDs of the data bus blink.
I hope to add a piece of hardware that 'talks' to Ersatz-11
so that the address bus LEDs are also active *and* that the
switches function as on the real thing. The goal is that
the hardware design can facilitate *any* real PDP-11 console
that has switches and lights, from an 11/10 to an 11/70.
Of course, this project needs the cooperation of John Wilson,
and I had already some preliminary contacts with him.
He also likes the option to connect a real console to the
demo(!) version of Ersatz-11.
-Henk.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerome Fine [mailto:jhfine@idirect.com]
> Sent: woensdag 24 oktober 2001 0:41
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Adventure in Ersatz-11
>
>
> >Gooijen H wrote:
>
> > Yes !!
>
> Jerome Fine replies:
>
> Thank you for the feed back. I was not sure how much memory
> ADVENT requires. You might also try:
> BOOT RT11SJ
> if you wish.
>
> > Thanks very much, Jerome.
> > Booting RT-11FB and then running ADVENT still produces
> > the "Insufficient memory" fatal error.
> > However, VBGEXE works fine !
> > After the "Welcome to Adventure!! Would you like instructions?"
> > and entering 'YES", it goes: Somewhere nearby is Colossal Cave,
> > etc.
> > This means that I am now going to play Adventure. This has a
> > serious drawback on the expansion of my website ...
> > I am playing it on my "homebrew-PDP" with the BLINKENLIGHTS on!!
> > On my website this project (early phase) has a separate link.
> > BTW. What is VBGEXE, what do the letters stand for?
> > Thanks again,
> > Henk.
>
> "EXEcute Virtual BackGround program" is how I think of the letters
> with the understanding that the word EXEcute is then switched
> to the end.
>
> A few points worth noting.
>
> (a) If FOO.SAV requires any arguments as in:
> "RUN DEV:FOO.SAV arguments" or replace RUN with VBGEXE,
> then they must be on the same line. The alternative is the
> put all three
> parts of the command on separate lines. Otherwise, with just
> "VBGEXE DEV:FOO.SAV" on the first line, somehow the request
> for information expects the arguments to already be there and if not,
> just exits. Entering:
> VBGEXE
> DEV:FOO.SAV
> arguments
> on three separate lines works as well.
>
> (b) The command:
> SRUN VBGEXE.SAV/TERMINAL:n/LEVEL:m/NAME:utility
> also works very well when you want to run a system job at a
> higher priority.
> TERMINAL is only useful with a system that has multi-terminal support
> LEVEL specifies the system job number ( 1=>6 )
> NAME can be used to automatically select an executable file
> called SY:utility.SAV
> One minor problem is that if name is omitted, then only ONE
> instance of
> VBGEXE can be invoked as a system job since the high memory
> GRCBs (Global
> Region Control Blocks) must all have different names. I have
> a small patch
> with allows the user to do the command:
> SRUN VBGEXE.SAV/TERMINAL:n/LEVEL:m/NAME:VBGEXm
> If that is done, each GRCB is given the name VBGEXm making them all
> different. This means that no program can have the name VBGEX(1=>6),
> a restriction that I assume can be lived with.
>
> I also remember that modifying TECO to be named VMUNG so that
> "VBGEXE VMUNG arguments"
> would work the same as
> "MUNG arguments"
> but use the full 64 KBytes allowed by VBGEXE.
>
> By the way, I assume that you are using E11 on a PC. Which hardware
> and how fast do you find that the code runs compared to any
> real PDP-11
> hardware. Plus, I can't remember about the "BLINKENLIGHTS" - what
> did you do to have those available?
>
> Sincerely yours,
>
> Jerome Fine
>
>
John Allain [mailto:allain@panix.com]
> I have spares for the '42. if they're the same as the '40 you
> can have one. I think they're Very common. I don't think
> I've seen a caddied CDROM drive that Doesn't use this
> type of caddy.
The RRD42 is (IIRC) a Sony unit (possibly
with modified firmware). It takes
a "standard" caddy.
The RRD40 is a much older Philips(?)
CD-ROM (1x) and it takes a caompletely
different form of CD holder (often
referred to as "antlers").
FWIW: the RRD43 is a tray-loader and
the RRD44 is back to a caddy. The
first DEC CDROM drive was the RRD50, which
was essentially a tabletop, caddyless
(flip open the top and load CD)
RRD40 (except, I believe, *slower*!!).
I have at least one RRD40 CD holder,
which I can supply if noone nearer
can dig one up (I'm in the UK).
Antonio
> One of my swapmeet friends showed up today with Radio Shack Color Computer
> 3 in the original box, is it worth anything? (no clue on condition or
> completeness etc., but I could look next time).
I think they are cool. But then I have been acquiring CoCo stuff for the
last twenty-one years!
A 128K CoCo 3 with box and manuals is probably worth $25.00.
--
tim lindner tlindner(a)ix.netcom.com
"Life. Don't talk to me about life." - Marvin, the android
Heinz Wolter wrote:
> Glen Goodwin wrote :
> > > I talked to Ken this afternoon.
> > > He needs 3-4K to cover the back rent on the storage
> > > and is looking for someone to take all this stuff and
> > > sell it on eBay for him. He thinks it's worth $100000
> >
> > Well, hey, if a CoCo is worth $2500 . . .
>
> We'll if there's a complete working PDP-10 (KL10), with
> disks, it might have a collector value of 20-30K$US,
> but you'd have to search carefully to find a rich buyer...
I know of three in private hands, and I think they were
each acquired at not cost.
> Now a PDP-1 would certainly be worth 100KUS$,
> as might a KA10 or KI10. If all that was needed to
> cover back-rent was 3-4KUS$, then a couple of PDP-8s
> or early PDP-11s should do the trick.
The PDP-1, working, complete, might well be worth US$10K,
but it's unlikely he's got one. Probably a boatload of
Vaxen & -11 stuff. Or maybe even Alpha.
> There are collectors out there like Mr. Allen paying
> big dollars for not so rare machines...I've even heard
> of unscrupulous "museum" collectors selling off machines
> that were donated to so called ~not-for-profit~ organizations.
> I don't think paying the rent is a bad idea, but selling off
> donated valuable items for huge personal profit is wrong,
> unless of course, you paid for or removed the machines,
> made no misrepresentations, and it's a legitimate business.
The Bostom Computer Museum was trying to support itself by
selling modules from systems that weren't complete.
> Still no matter what the source, it would bet better for these
> machines to find good homes (even in eccentric millionaire's
> collections) than to end up in the scrap heap or raped for their
> gold plating.
On this, we agree...
> I wonder what item Al K. is looking for that could be worth
> any good part of 100KUS$, or 3KUS$ ;)
I don't think anything that expensive is in Al's budget...
Though wouldn't we all love to have a sugardaddy like that!
-dq
Hello.
I just begin the development of the Univac I simulator. By the moment
I am doing one simple prototype of the CPU with all the Instruction Set
and the Registers, plus ten simulated Uniservos in form of ten plain
ascii files. I don't try to reproduce by the moment the timings or
the exact cycle of the data and/or instructions along the system.
In a later issue I have the intention to convert the simulator in
one Bob Supnik's Simh compatible.
And, finally, I shall try to develop one GUI for the Sim, and here
is where I need some kind of help. All the photographs I have are
in black and white, and I need some help about the real color of the
Univac I components. I am working actually with the Supervisory
Control (the Huge Console of the Univac I) and I need to know if
somebody knows its exact colors: that is, of the Metallic components,
and the light and blinking colors too.
All help should be agreed.
Thanks and Best Regards
Sergio Pedraja
Hello all,
Cleanout time again... I have the following ISA cards available for cost of
postage only. These cards were part of a lot I picked up just for the two
Compaticard II cards that were in the pile :-).
Let me know what you want. In fairness to international and digest readers,
if I get more offers than I have of a certain card, then I will throw names
into a hat and pick.
These should be fairly cheap to ship, as they all are light...
Also, they are UNTESTED, and given to you AS-IS...
Here we go:
Boards from Zenith Z-150
- CPU Board 85-2889-1 -- 8088, keyboard port, ROMs, etc
- Disk Controller Board 85-2890-1 -- 2 WD 8250, i8272, external ports
- Memory Board 85-2891-1 -- 5 banks of 9 4164 chips
- Video Board 85-2945-1 -- 6845, 2732 ROM, D9 and RCA outputs
- 8-slot backplane board 85-2964-1 -- 8 8-bit ISA slots, power connector
Qty. 3 8-bit ISA VGA cards -- Paradise chipset, 8 MB81464-12 memory chips
Qty. 1 8-bit ISA VGA card, renaissance chipset, 8 D41464C-10 memory chips
Qty. 3 8-bit Seagate ISA cards, SCSI??, EPROM marked Seagate ST01/02 BIOS,
TI CF61891FN, 50-pin header
Qty. 1 8-bit ISA card, marked "UPS Monitoring Board, Copyright 89 APCC"
Switch settings silkscreened on board
Qty. 2 8-bit ISA cards, marked "ASYNC CARD 1501485APS" -- INS 8250, 25-pin
male connector
Qty. 1 8-bit Everex ISA card, I believe SCSI controller -- PWA-00081-0002
EV-833, 50-pin header, 62-pin high-density connector out the back, 8085AP-2,
8257C, 6116, 27C64, TI CF60128N, Everex custom chip
Qty. 1 16-bit ISA SCSI card, Adaptec AHA-1542B, w/ 50-pin ribbon cable
Qty. 1 16-bit full-length ISA SCSI card, board marked AHA-1542A, custom chip
marked AHA-1540A -- No floppy connector, 50-pin SCSI connector, no connector
out the back. -- 50-pin header has some bent pins.
Qty. 4 8-bit 3/4 length ISA floppy controller -- 37-pin D connector out the
back, 34-pin edge connector along the front edge of the card. No obvious
manufacturer's markings. Three have the i8272 chip, one has an NEC 765.
Qty. 6 8-bit 1/2 length ISA floppy controller card. One uses the NEC 765,
Two use the Zilog Z0765A08PSC, and three use the i8272. All have no
connector out the back, and a 34-pin edge connector along the front edge of
the card. One is marked "Kouwell KF-503C"
"They that can give up essential liberty
to obtain a little temporary safety deserve
neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin
If you are interested in any items let me know and I'll forward you an image of the part.
Here's the list:
IBM PS/2 LX 40 Laptop (complete, including powersupply, battery and modem - Needs CMOS battery replaced)
Compaq LTE 286 Laptop parts:
-Battery pack
-Floppy drive
-Harddrive
-Motherboard
-Memory expansion card
Compaq LTE 386 s/20 Laptop parts:
-Battery pack
-Floppy drive
-Harddrive
-Modem
-Power supply board (?)
Apple Computers:
* Power Macintosh 6100/66
DOS Compatible
6100 DOS compatible. Card includes a 66 MHz 486DX2 CPU, SVGA output, and a single SIMM slot supporting up to 32 MB RAM
* Apple Desktob Bus Mouse II
* Assorted apple cables
One monitor/printer cable
One 8-pin keyboard (?) cable
* Apple OneScanner
w/ 2 SCSI Ports + cable
* Apple Multiple Scan 15 Display
15" monitor w/15-pin plug
* Two Apple Keyboard II units
* Apple ImageWriter II
Color Printer with Paper Tray Feeder
MONITORS/Serial Terminals:
* Wyse technologies Monitor/terminal w/parallell/phone line ports (15")
* NCD Monitor/Terminal w/parallell/thin/serial ports(15"-color)
* Seiko Instruments 15" Monitor (color)
I also have the following motherboards available:
* Compaq Motherboard for 486 processor w/4 Slot ISA Riser board and
4 72-pin memory bays
(Copyright 1992, 93,94)
Built in Mouse, keyboard, graphics card, and paralell ports
Board # 03433-001
* Dual processor motherboard for 486 and 386 processors w/8 ISA Slots
Unknown board brand, copyright 1992
8 30-pin SIMM memory bays
AMI BIOS // American Megatrends/Symphony chips
S/N 58000
* Dual processor motherboard for 386 and 286 (?) processors w/8 ISA Slots Unknown board brand, copyright 1986-1990
8 30-pin SIMM memory bays
AMI BIOS // American Megatrends/Symphony/Twinhead chips
FM-SC386
* DELL Computer Corp. motherboard for 486 processor w/3 Slot ISA Riser board and 4 72-pin memory bays,copyright 1991
Built in Mouse, keyboard, graphics card, and paralell ports
16577 A7 0141 WS(?)
* Micronics Computers Inc. Dual processor motherboard for 486 and 386 (?) processors w/8 ISA slots and 8 30-pin SIMM memory bays
Phoenix BIOS // Intel Copyright 1977 /CHIPS on-board chips
* Micronics Computers Inc. (??) Dual processor motherboard for two 486 processors w/8 ISA slots and 4 72-pin memory bays and cache slot
Copyright 1993
Phoenix BIOS // FLASH/CHIPS/Micronics on-board chips
* Dtk Dual processor motherboard for 386 and 286 (?) processors w/8 assorted length ISA slots
Copyright 1987 Dallas/Texas Instruments/Mitsubish/Citizen/VLSI on- board chips
(All boards are working as far as I know, they were pulled out of working computers)
I also have several 5.25" floppy drives (TEAC, EPSON, Others)
I have older Miniscribe and Epson harddrives
I have one tower and two boxes w/power supply ready for assembly
Also, several older graphics cards, IDE expansion cards, SCSI cards, serial port cards, and many other older components of the like.
Power supply. Numerous sizes and options
Additionally, I have several sets of 30-PIN SIMM Memory cards and one Cache (256K) card
Please let me know if you or anyone else you know is interested in acquiring any of this hardware.
Feel free to email me for further info.
Sincerely,
H. Sven Fernandez
Hattiesburg, Mississippi
Make a difference, help support the relief efforts in the U.S.
http://clubs.lycos.com/live/events/september11.asp
>Does any on know what eBay gets for his folly?
When it doesn't sell, he will be able to reprice it and relist for free,
if it doesn't sell the 2nd time, he will owe ebay $3.30
Not a bad loss to test the waters for a sucker
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
What is it?
It says Mentor Graphics Storage Unit 6000 on the front panel
HP C2213d....
class 1 laser...
on the back
I was told it was an external SCSI drive.
Collector of Vintage Computers (www.ncf.ca/~ba600)
Hello, all:
Someone from the Netherlands contacted me about obtaining images of the
LPS11 test tapes. Before I go through the trouble of sending the tapes
overseas, does anyone on the list have images of the tapes already prepared?
Rich
Rich Cini
Collector of classic computers
Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project
Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
/************************************************************/
Yes !!
Thanks very much, Jerome.
Booting RT-11FB and then running ADVENT still produces
the "Insufficient memory" fatal error.
However, VBGEXE works fine !
After the "Welcome to Adventure!! Would you like instructions?"
and entering 'YES", it goes: Somewhere nearby is Colossal Cave,
etc.
This means that I am now going to play Adventure. This has a
serious drawback on the expansion of my website ...
I am playing it on my "homebrew-PDP" with the BLINKENLIGHTS on!!
On my website this project (early phase) has a separate link.
BTW. What is VBGEXE, what do the letters stand for?
Thanks again,
Henk.
> -----Original Message-----
(snipped to save bandwidth)
On Oct 23, 14:35, John Foust wrote:
> At 12:22 PM 10/23/01 -0700, you wrote:
> >Is there an assumption that spam address harvesters would be incapable
of
> >replacing all occurences of 'DOT' with '.' and 'AT' with '@' ?
>
> If I were writing an e-mail harvester, I'm sure
> I'd have quite an extensive subroutine that looked
> for known patterns of spam-avoidance, and how to
> undo them. I can't fathom why otherwise smart people
> assume that other smart but nasty people won't think
> of the same things they did, and be able to undo them.
I'm sure you could/would -- but I'm also sure a lot don't. So trivial
obfuscations probbly work to some extent, more especially in the context of
trawling web pages, where there is no mandatory header labelled "From:" or
whatever.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
What about PUTR and about a slew of other programs that
know alternate formats?
Allison
-----Original Message-----
From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Monday, October 22, 2001 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: Reading non-PC format floppies
>On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Jim Donoghue wrote:
>> Any tools for reading non-PC 5 1/4" HD floppies out there? Tried
reading them
>> with DOS DEBUG, get 'Data Error'.
>
>DEBUG can only read legitimate MS-DOS disks.
>
>
>For low-density ("360k"), Trakcess on the TRS-80 model III.
>
>Central point option board, TE program.
>
>Morgan Computing's Disk Toolkit (only for 512 byte per sector)
>
>XenoCopy-PC
>
>INT 13h
>
>programming the FDC directly.
>
>--
>Fred Cisin cisin(a)xenosoft.com
>XenoSoft http://www.xenosoft.com
>PO Box 1236 (510) 558-9366
>Berkeley, CA 94701-1236
>
Guy has some PDP-11 stuff he needs to clear out.
Contact: Ken Slusser <termtech(a)digitalputty.com>
> On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 01:00:26PM -0700, Termtech wrote:
> > Dear Sir
> > I have a 1000 sq. ft warehouse full of used DEC pdp and pre IBM p.c.
> > equipment / manuals / spares etc.
> > I need someone to help me get rid of all of it. I realize it has some
> > value on Ebay but my lease has run out and I need to recover some of my
> > costs ASAP.
> > I am in California on the central coast.
> > Any suggestions.
> > Thank You
> > Ken Slusser
> > TTi
> > Termtech(a)digitalputty.com
Bill
--
Bill Bradford
mrbill(a)mrbill.net
Austin, TX
On Oct 23, 18:46, Tony Duell wrote:
> > On Oct 22, 19:48, Tony Duell wrote:
> >
> > > On the output duct from the prefilter
> Did I really say 'prefilter' there? I must be going senile. I meant
> 'absolute filter' of course. The prefilter is the foam pad at the back of
> the logic cage, and is not essentialy to the operation of the drive.
I realised out what you meant :-)
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Hello Michael,
Don't know if this would help you out or not, but
Bob Armstrong developed a TU58 emulator at ...
http://www.SpareTimeGizmos.com/Hardware/TU58_Emulator.htm
Sincerely,
Bennett
> Hello to all VAXenfolks,
>
> i do have a problem with a VAX-11/730 that i have reconstructed
> (cleaned,
> resoldered, replaced cable, everything. Pictures on www.vaxcluster.de.
> Yes,
> i am a bit proud of it... But sorry for the bad web-page design!) over
> the
> last few months.
> It is now willing to boot and tries to load it's microcode tape from the
> TU-58 drives. I even have a microcode tape which looks like it could be
> still readable.
> But the TU-58's are so battered that i have not been able to read the
> tape.
> I have repaced the rubber rollers, but the read/write-heads look, ummm,
> bad!
>
> I have found somewhere some TU-58 simulator software for DOS which looks
> like a promising alternative; i would place a mini-DOS-computer inside a
> VT-102 and route some additional cables to the VAX and bee fine.
>
> BUT: How do i get the contents of the microcode tape of the tape, into a
> DOS file without access to a working TU-58?
>
> Is someone on this list able to read the tape?
> Has someone already made a tape image i could just use? I mean, i have
> a original DEC tape, with serial number and all. I might even come up
> with a license document, if i search long enough...
>
> Any help would be greatly welcomed. This old lady is just to beautifull
> to use it as an electric heater only...
>
> Thank you
>
> ms
>
> --
> Michael Schneider email: ms(a)silke.rt.schwaben.de
> Germany http://www.vaxcluster.de
>
> People disagree with me. I just ignore them.
> (Linus Torvalds)
Hello, all:
I mentioned a while ago that I got these boards, and I actually received
them last week. To do a refresh, this board is an INS8073-based SBC with
lots of I/O in a compact 4x5 size. Someone mentioned that they may have
access to the manual but I can't find that message.
I need some info on these more than I thought. The kit comes with the board
and parts and nothing more. The silk screen on the board only has parts
designations (i.e., R1, C1, U1) but not the values. Some I can guess at but
not enough to make it work.
The only info that I have is on the 8073 specifically and not the board
itself. A search doesn't turn up much.
Any help appreciated.
Rich
Rich Cini
Collector of classic computers
Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project
Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
/************************************************************/
> For the power and ground connections for each chip, a friend suggested I
>should solder 16-gauge wire from a tie point or the power connector
>straight to each chip and/or its bypass cap. The only 16-gauge wire I have
>is stranded, and it's a mess to work with -- too large to work with easily
>and the strands mean it won't really bend and stay on the tie point or pin.
What kind of juice do those chips need? 16 gauge seems awfully heavy for
any ICs I have worked with. I assume you know guages, but 16-18 guage is
standard lamp cord and will let you draw 5-10 amps on 110 volt. This
sounds good for a main power input to a transformer, but all ICs I have
worked with only pull at max a few amps at much lower voltages, so you
should be able to use much thinner wire.
I would check your amp requirements, and move to an 18 or 20 guage solid
or even higher if you can... phone station cord is usually 24 guage, but
don't mix it up with the 26 guage multipair cord... the usual obvious
difference is, station cord is 4 colors red/green/yellow/black....
multipair cord is 2 (or more) pairs of striped wire (blue, orange, green,
brown, slate all striped with white for the first 6 pairs)
But that aside, if you strip the standed cord, tiwst the strands in your
finger, and then tin the end with your solder iron (heat the end, and let
it draw solder into it, until it has a nice coat), it will be MUCH more
managable (although it still in general won't stay where you bend it,
other than the tinned end, lightweight alligator clips work wonders for
holding things in place).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
On Oct 22, 19:48, Tony Duell wrote:
> On the output duct from the prefilter (the trapezium-shaped thing on the
> left of the spindle) there's another foam ring. This one is critical --
> it's in the clean air path from the filter to the cartridge. I am told
> that draught excluder tape works here.
I wondered about that. OK, it has to go, too.
> Also, on top of the RK05 PSU there's a NiCd battery pack. It's there to
> retract (and lift) the heads if the mains fails. It's nearly always dead
> in old drives. Replace it. Fortunately it's the same as a common cordless
> phone battery pack, so it's not hard to get a new one.
I knew about that one; I didn't mention it before because I just took it as
read that I'd need to replace it :-)
Thanks again for the advice. Now all I need is time to get at it -- maybe
this coming weekend.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Oct 23, 8:15, John Foust wrote:
> So Pete, are you going to tell us the story behind
> this find?
There's not much to tell, really. It originally belonged to the
University's Psychology Department, which has moved between buildings a few
times, and it was left in a small storeroom at the back of a building they
left some time ago. I bought something from a postgrad in the building,
and whilst chatting he mentioned that the AV technician was also into oold
computers, so I paid him a visit. In the course of *that* conversation, he
mentioned there was a disused PDP-11 that would need moved in time for a
forthcoming building refurbishment, and the rest, is, as they say, history.
I try to make sure that people around the campus know I'm interested in old
machines, and from time to time something interesting turns up :-)
I probably won't have much time to do anything other than gaze at it every
time I walk past, until the weekend, but I'll let you know how I get on.
I'm also trying to sort out the 6000VA UPS (unrelated acquisition) I got
last week, and mentioned on the list. I've got as far as getting it
powered up without tripping the 32A circuit breaker, getting the
diagnostics and status out of the serial port, and have figured out why it
doesn't like the batteries: the two sets of ten 12V lead-acid batteries are
all flat. None reads more than 0.2V :-( I presently have a pulse
generator/charger on some of them, to see if I can get any life out of a
few. It looks moderately hopeful.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Oct 22, 18:09, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Pete Turnbull wrote:
> > OTOH, it's possible that my additional spam collection has come from
Usenet
> > trawling rather than list archives, I suppose.
>
> You blame the list for additional spam, when you've been using the same
> e-mail address on usenet ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Don't be ridiculous! I hardly ever use Usenet from this domain now that my
ISP's news server seems to be unmanaged and uncared for. I usually post
>from work (different address, and munged). And I *always* mung the address
on Usenet.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
!-----Original Message-----
!From: pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com [mailto:pete@dunnington.u-net.com]
!Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 8:54 PM
!To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
!Subject: Re: List Maintenance
!
!
!On Oct 22, 12:39, Sellam Ismail wrote:
!
!> But for people using the archives for research it would be nice to be
!> able
!> to e-mail the original poster (unless the address obscuring
!> we're talking
!> about will not completely remove the e-mail address from the
!> message).
!
!I agree; it's been useful to me on a number of occasions, both
!when I've
!searched for something and when someone else has found me
!through the list.
! I wouldn't want my address removed, just altered enough so automatic
!spambots won't get my address too often.
!
!.......
!--
!Pete
One good way I've seen to munch the address is...
change "computer.geek(a)computer.com" to
"computerDOTgeekATcomputerDOTcom"
--- David A Woyciesjes
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--- Yale University Press
--- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu
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On Oct 20, 21:22, Jay West wrote:
> Thanks for your patience & understanding as we improve our
infrastructure.
This is perhaps an opportune moment to thank you for all the time, effort
and resources you have put into hosting the list and the archive.
Some time ago, there was a discussion about address munging. I've noticed
recently (ie the last few months) a large increase in spam arriving here,
possibly correlated to my postings to the list. It not a really big deal,
but I wondered if it's possible to anti-spamify my email address in list
postings?
> We will also be updating the software that
> pulls all the classiccmp posts into the archive at www.classiccmp.org
> and I think the new version has a search function built in.
That would be nice!
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Hi all.
I have a problem when I try to run Advent in Ersatz-11.
I guess it is trivial, but I am in the learning phase...
Running RT-11, when entering "run advent", I get the response:
?KMON-F-Insufficient memory.
For information here are some screen "dumps" of entered commands.
.SH MEM
------- Extended Memory -------
Address Module Words Type
------- ------ ----- ----
17760000 IOPAGE 4096. HDW
00760000 MEMTOP
00166200 ...... 96704.
00160000 SL 1600. PVT
------ Low Memory -------
Address Module Words
------- ------ -----
155434 DL 626.
122216 RMON 6983.
111154 USR 2321.
001000 ..BG.. 18486.
.SHOW CONF
RT-11XM (S) V05.03
Booted from DL0:RT11XM
USR is set NOSWAP
EXIT is set SWAP
KMON is set NOIND
TT is set NOQUIET
ERROR is set ERROR
SL is set OFF
EDIT is set KEX
KMON nesting depth is 3
Global .SCCA flag is disabled
PDP 11/35,40 Processor
248KB of memory
Extended Instruction Set (EIS)
Memory Management Unit
50 Cycle System Clock
Device I/O time-out support
FPU support
On Thursday I took possession of a DEC Lab 11/40 system. I've not had time
to clean it up and check it out yet, but it was reputedly working when last
used (well, I suppose it would have been, wouldn't it?).
Actually, that's not quite true, as I'm told someone plugged a terminal in
the wrong way, apparently blew something up, and got no output -- I hope
they mean something simple like the RS232 line drivers have gone.
The system consists of two racks about 4' high. One contains the 11/40 in
a 12U box, with a power controller below and an LPS11 above. The other
contains a pair of RK05 drives and power controller. There's a GT11
display on the top of the 11/40 rack, and a TS03 magtape unit on the other.
The system came with stacks of documentation but only one RK05 pack. I've
not had time to make a thorough inventory of the docs yet, but they seem to
include most of the processor/memory/interface engineering drawings and
maintenance manuals, and something like four complete or almost complete
sets of RT-11 manuals, for various vintages from 2.0 to 4.0. Also a pile
of printed MAINDEC listings (no microfiche, sadly. Anybody got any
microfiche they want to pass on?)
I've not had time to do anything yet, apart from check the boards in the
11/40 (pretty standard, with EIS but not FIS, no stack limit register or
MMU, no KM11, but it does have the KW11-L programmable LTC). It has a
DL11-A (20mA interface for console) and a DL11-something (RS232), 2 x 16KW
core sets in one backplane, a DUP11-A synchronous interface (what can I use
this for?), a TMB11 tape controller, and an RK11-D controller for the
drives. The last backplane in the box contains cards not listed in the
Field Guide (neither are the memory cards in this machine, so I'll send
Megan an update) but I think they're for the GT11: M7014-YA, A320, and
M7013, all hex-height.
I've had a very cursory look over the machine, and the only things I notice
that want some attention before I think about powering it up are a section
of frayed insulation on the power loom to the BA-11 box, a lot of dust
everywhere (how surprising!), and some kinks in the unibus cable that
connects to the RK05s. I plan to vacuum out the dust, ix the insulation,
and check the PSUs before I do anything else. I'm no Unibus or RK05
expert; most of my -11s are Q-bus. What else should I look for before I go
too far?
I mentioned I only got one disk pack -- it's an original RT-11 distribution
and I don't want to risk that in an unknown drive. Anyway, I know for a
fact it's been dropped (the owner told me). I have since acquired 4 more
packs, three of which came from the same machine originally. Anything I
should look out for before trying them? I thought it might be wise to
check the RK05 heads and perhaps clena them with IPA before I do anything
else.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
>Some time ago, there was a discussion about address munging. I've noticed
>recently (ie the last few months) a large increase in spam arriving here,
>possibly correlated to my postings to the list. It not a really big deal,
>but I wondered if it's possible to anti-spamify my email address in list
>postings?
This (mine) email address is ONLY used for list subscriptions. I recieve
NO outside spam to this address. That tells me that no one has harvested
addresses from the list (or any list I am on). HOWEVER... I do recieve
>from time to time spam addressed TO the list (and thus it ends up at this
address). No amount of address obscuring to solve that, as it isn't
addressed to "you" but to the list, and thus proxied to you.
Not that I am against address obscuring (since this list replies to the
list, and not to the person, so it doesn't become an annoyance). Just
thought I would mention my findings on the topic.
Unsubscribing the spammer might slow them down a bit (at least then,
their messages would be bounced first)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
There were a number of posts on this list over the last
year on the topic of the Tek 4041 GPIB controller.
Ive got one of these suckers now, plus a number of Tek plugins with GPIB
interfaces, and Im interested in making them all play together.
I havent got a keyboard, and I recall some posts from Joe Rigdon? saying
keyboards
are very hard to find. In the meantime, Ive figured out the keyboard
electrical interface characteristics and made a rs232-keyboard converter. So
I can talk to it now, and give it little BASIC commands, and see the results
on the LED display
Ive figured out much of the BASIC dialect it speaks, but I cant yet figure
out how to open the printer, serial port or tape for IO, nor have I got the
docs yet. Can anyone shed some light on the exact syntax for the BASIC open
call used by the 4041 and the
get() function for reading GPIB devices?
Cheers.
Rich,
I have data on the NS version of the 8073 board and the chip itself.
However I have to dig for it. the sterling Cypher is different than the
NS
board though the chip (8073) is fairly standard in what it expects
in that regard.
Allison
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard A. Cini, Jr. <rcini(a)optonline.net>
To: ClassCompList <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Monday, October 22, 2001 11:11 PM
Subject: Sterling Cypher IV 8073 board info
Hello, all:
I mentioned a while ago that I got these boards, and I actually received
them last week. To do a refresh, this board is an INS8073-based SBC with
lots of I/O in a compact 4x5 size. Someone mentioned that they may have
access to the manual but I can't find that message.
I need some info on these more than I thought. The kit comes with the
board
and parts and nothing more. The silk screen on the board only has parts
designations (i.e., R1, C1, U1) but not the values. Some I can guess at
but
not enough to make it work.
The only info that I have is on the 8073 specifically and not the board
itself. A search doesn't turn up much.
Any help appreciated.
Rich
Rich Cini
Collector of classic computers
Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project
Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
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Hi
I found these sorting out stuff today.
Programming the 65816 (W.Libiak, Sybex)
65816/65802 Ass. Lang. Programming (M.Fischer, McGraw/Hill)
Both very clean.
Trades and offers welcome or dumpster for these...
Thanks
Claude
http://computer_collector.tripod.com
I'm trying to get this combo running on a mvIII+ (ba23) I just put
together. /sho dev/ picks it up as UQSSP Tape Controller 0 (774500).
I know this can also be used as a tape controller but is there any
jumpering required for use with the rc25? (no other mscp devs present)
Also, the person who wanted the mvII boards from my recent "garagesale"
changed his mind. So 2-M7606 1-M7608 and 2-M7609s are still avail
(free - U pay postage). All bds just tested good.
-nick
---- On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, r. 'bear' stricklin (red(a)bears.org) wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, One Without Reason wrote:
>
> > OS/2 JFS is AIX JFS. They are the same.
>
> When did OS/2 start supporting JFS? It was still all HPFS as of Warp
> 3.0
>
> ok
> r.
>
>
>
>
The OS/2 Warp Server 4.x (IIRC) had HPFS support and JFS support.
--
Bill Pechter
Systems Administrator
uReach Technologies
732-335-5432 (Work)
877-661-2126 (Fax)