- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > On 12-Nov-2001 UberTechnoid(a)home.com wrote: > > > As far as open architecture, ISA was very well documented and noone > > > needed to pay IBM to use the buss. MCA was a different story. The PC > > > wasn't an open architecture, but the effects were something of the > > > same. Heck there are ISA slots on Amigas, Ataris, etc..... > > > > My MIPScomputer M/120 has ISA slots. Being big endian, it has to do some > > fun things with byte and word swapping different parts of the IO space. > > > > AFAIK Apollos (before they were bought by HP) used ISA with most of their > M68K machines. I think they also used ISA with their risc DN10K boxen. After, too (at least in the case of the 425t). -dq

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SMD Hard Disks

by matt＠knm.yi.org

Hi, As you may have noticed - I got a MicroVAX II at the weekend, and I've been playing. I've not yet built a console cable, but that's on the way :&) Anyway - as the cables were damaged beyond repair before it arrived (a 2' length is missing from the middle) I'd like to know what's needed to hook up these SMD drives (apparently M2372K and M2351AO - but I've not checked that yet) to the Emulex QD32 controller I have :&) This is my first encounter with SMD, and I'm quite fascinated :&) If I can get it to access the HDD's, I'm well on the way to a working system :&) All I need then is an ethernet card :&) -- Matt --- E-mail: matt(a)pkl.net, matt(a)knm.yi.org, matt(a)printf.net matt(a)m-techdiagnostics.ltd.uk, matthew.london(a)stud.umist.ac.uk mattl(a)vcd.student.utwente.nl, mlondon(a)mail.talk-101.com Web Page: http://knm.yi.org/ http://pkl.net/~matt/ PGP Key fingerprint = 00BF 19FE D5F5 8EAD 2FD5 D102 260E 8BA7 EEE4 8D7F PGP Key http://knm.yi.org/matt-pgp.html

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Xenix ?

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Lest you'all forget there is Uzi unix, a BSD styled kernal. Allison -----Original Message----- From: M H Stein <mhstein(a)usa.net> To: 'ClassicComputers' <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:26 AM Subject: Xenix ? >-----------Original Message---------- >Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:45:49 -0700 >From: Ben Franchuk <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca> >Subject: Re: Xenix ? > >Don Maslin wrote: >> Somehow, I am inclined to question if there was a Z-80 version of Xenix >> and, if not, then there was none for the Model II. > >The only OS that came close to Unix for 8 bit micros was OS/9 for the >6809 and ><snip> >---------------------------------------------------------- >Don't forget Z80 Cromix... > >mike >

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IRC channel?

by LFessen106＠aol.com

irc.stealth.net irc.funet.fi flute.telstra.net.au irc.uni-erlangen.de irc.leo.org irc.webbernet.net are a few you can try.... -Linc Fessenden In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right... Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.

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Burroughs B220 manual scan needs a host

by vcf＠vintage.org

Can anyone provide hosting for a scan of a Burroughs B220 manual for Eric? Please reply to him directly. Reply-to: wd6cmu(a)earthlink.net ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2001 10:45:19 -0800 From: Eric Williams <wd6cmu(a)earthlink.net> To: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> Subject: Burroughs B220 Sellam, I've recently scanned in my copy of the operations manual for a Burroughs B220, circa 1957. Do you know of an appropriate web site that might like to archive it for public access? Thanks! -- eric -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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RS/6000 keyboard

by a.vincent＠latrobe.edu.au

Dear All, Can anyone provide me with any leads on a second hand keyboard for a RS/6000 PowerServer 520H (7013) (part no. 1394540 or 1395985), preferably a cheap one located in Australia. Cheers Andrew ------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Vincent Research Information Systems Officer Research and Graduate Studies Office La Trobe University Bundoora, 3083 Australia +61 3 9479 1581 (voice) +61 3 9479 1464 (fax) web: www.latrobe.edu.au/rgso -------------------------------------------------------------

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Lifting stuff into racks

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 12, 1:45, Jeffrey S. Sharp wrote: > What kind of equipment/strategy do we use to lift heavy equipment into > place in a rack so that it can be fastened to the rack? Is there some > jack or hydraulic lift that can be used? > > Please tell me that the best method doesn't begin with "create a list of > muscular friends". Mine does :-) (Hi, James!) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Lifting stuff into racks

by jss＠subatomix.com

What kind of equipment/strategy do we use to lift heavy equipment into place in a rack so that it can be fastened to the rack? Is there some jack or hydraulic lift that can be used? Please tell me that the best method doesn't begin with "create a list of muscular friends". -- Jeffrey S. Sharp jss(a)subatomix.com

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FORTH for TRS Model 100

by dan＠ekoan.com

At 10:22 PM 11/12/01 -0500, you wrote: >I have AMPI (Amerifcan Micro Products, Inc.) FORTH with plastic case, >manual, and cassette tape (condition unknown) for the TRS Model 100. >Can anyone use this? I could! Cheers, Dan

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FORTH for TRS Model 100

by paul＠orchard.wccnet.org

I have AMPI (Amerifcan Micro Products, Inc.) FORTH with plastic case, manual, and cassette tape (condition unknown) for the TRS Model 100. Can anyone use this? Paul R. Santa-Maria Monroe, Michigan USA

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VAX (Was: Cromemco landmarks)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Carlos, Both have the FPU. It was optional only in the sense that it was not required for a minimal cpu. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Carlos Murillo <cmurillo(a)emtelsa.multi.net.co> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Sunday, November 11, 2001 11:16 PM Subject: Re: VAX (Was: Cromemco landmarks) >At 03:02 AM 11/12/01 +0100, Iggy wrote: >>Carlos Murillo skrev: >>>Didn't the uVax II implement some of the original VAX instructions >>>with emulation? I always wondered what the VUP rating would have >>>been were they not emulated. >> >>in order to reduce the architecture to a single (integer) chip, only 175 of >>the 304 instructions (and 6 of 14 native data types) were implemented >(through >>microcode), while the rest were emulated - this subset included 98% of >>instructions in a typical program. The optional FPU implemented 70 >>instructions and 3 VAX data types, which was another 1.7% of VAX >instructions. >>All remaining VAX instructions were only used 0.2% of the time, and this >>allowed MicroVAX designs to eventually exceed the speed of full VAX >>implementations > >Aha! So, if I were doing numerical linear algebra in a uVaxII w/o the optional >FPU, I could expect performance to be badly hit with respect to the 0.9 VUP >rating. > >(FYI, I always tend to benchmark machines using float performance, >because that's the kind of thing that I do for a living. I look at integer >performance only as something that has an impact on sparse linear algebra >blocks, as opposed to dense system methods). > >How do I know if my Vaxstation 2000 has the optional FPU? What is >its model number? > >What about the Vaxstation 4000/60? Does it have a built-in FPU? > >carlos. > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Carlos E. Murillo-Sanchez carlos_murillo(a)nospammers.ieee.org > >

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Lifting stuff into racks

by CLASSICCMP＠enterprise.trailing-edge.com

For heavy things that *have* to be at the top of a 6-foot rack (like a front-loading tape drive), my recipe is: 1. Put the rack down on its side. 2. Put the tape drive down on its side, on top of some blocks of wood to align the holes with the rack. 3. Put similar-height blocks of wood in the rack. 4. Slide tape drive into rack, bolt it in. 5. Tilt rack up. Admittedly, step #5 there may not be easy, but at least as the rack stands more straight up you do less *lifting* and more *pushing*. Incredibly important thing when doing #5: make sure the rack isn't going to roll out away from you as you stand it up! Tim.

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New acquisitions: Suns, room

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On November 12, Iggy Drougge wrote: > >> Well, I won't totally eliminate the possibility, but I think I'm going to > >> have somewhat different criteria from now on. So... does anyone here know > >> any single, female, pretty, smart computer geeks/nerds, someone that would > >> think of "writing a compiler" as spending time together? > > >Funny, my checklist reads remarkably similar. > > It would be a wonderful world if more computer geeks were homosexual. I think it would be an even more wonderful world if people could be comfortable enough with their sexual orientation (whatever it may be) to not have to drag it into EVERY UNRELATED CONVERSATION! (not that this happens here very often, but I just escaped from an area in which this sort of behavior was very much the norm) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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WordPerfect <v5.2

by donm＠cts.com

Earlier in my reading the list today, I noted in passing an email by someone who was looking for an early version of WP - in the 3.x IIRC. If v4.2 would be of any use to you, please email me off list and it is yours for postage fees from 92037. - don

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RA81 problems, someone with a service manual can help?

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, today I moved the RA81 from the garage down into the Laundry/Computer- Room in the basement. Thanks to my straps and a hydraulic car jack- stand I was actually able to install it in my TU81+ cabinet without breaking my back or getting squished underneath the drive :-). It looks really cool in the TU81 rack. I powered it up and though no lights at these push-buttons come on, I could test it quite far. Thanks to Will Kranz' abridged service manual http://www.conknet.com/~w_kranz/pdp11/RA81.HTM I knew what I could do with the terminal and that CTRL-C will get it going (not CTRL-Z like with the TU81+) and after running diagnostics once, I could actually spin up the drive. Just seeking seems not to work. Spun up diagnostigs gets the error terminal plugged in, 300 b/s, 8 bit, 1 stop no parity ? ^C CTRL-C gets a prompt RA81> EUR^C RA81> EUR turn serial port to 7 bit instead of 8 removes the junk RA81> RA81> RUN DIAGNOSTICS %RA81-COMPLETED TEST:DIAG SUBTEST:02 %RA81-COMPLETED TEST:DIAG SUBTEST:01 %RA81-COMPLETED TEST:DIAG SUBTEST:07 %RA81-COMPLETED TEST:DIAG SUBTEST:08 %RA81-COMPLETED TEST:DIAG SUBTEST:0B %RA81-COMPLETED TEST:DIAG SUBTEST:03 %RA81-COMPLETED TEST:DIAG SUBTEST:0D %RA81-COMPLETED TEST:DIAG SUBTEST:19 %RA81-COMPLETED TEST:DIAG SUBTEST:1B %RA81-COMPLETED TEST:DIAG SUBTEST:1C %RA81-COMPLETED TEST:DIAG SUBTEST:1D %RA81-COMPLETED TEST:DIAG SUBTEST:1E %RA81-COMPLETED TEST:DIAG SUBTEST:1F %RA81-COMPLETED TEST:DIAG SUBTEST:20 this was diagnostics spun down, everything successful! Now I push the RUN/STOP switch in and there comes the sound of the drive spinning up, really impressive! RA81> FRONT PANEL FUNCTION IN PROGRESS then this message comes and a long time nothing, finally: %RA81-TEST: SUBTEST:1B ERROR:50 UNIT:001 %RA81-FRU-SLAVE RESPONSE FAIL- SERVO,MICRO not knowing what else to do I do diagnostics again in spun up mode RA81> RUN DIAG %RA81-COMPLETED TEST:DIAG SUBTEST:02 %RA81-COMPLETED TEST:DIAG SUBTEST:01 %RA81-COMPLETED TEST:DIAG SUBTEST:07 %RA81-COMPLETED TEST:DIAG SUBTEST:08 %RA81-COMPLETED TEST:DIAG SUBTEST:0B %RA81-COMPLETED TEST:DIAG SUBTEST:03 %RA81-COMPLETED TEST:DIAG SUBTEST:19 %RA81-TEST:DIAG SUBTEST:1B ERROR:50 UNIT:001 %RA81-FRU-SLAVE RESPONSE FAIL- SERVO,MICRO RA81> RUN SEEK ENDING CYLINDER? 1000 GROUP? 10 OPERATION FAILED RA81> RUN RECAL %RA81-TEST:RECA SUBTEST:2A ERROR:50 UNIT:001 %RA81-FRU-SLAVE RESPONSE FAIL- SERVO,MICRO At no time I heard any seeking activity. Will's service manual page says this: > D.28 TEST 1B (SERVO PLO TEST) > This test checks the servo module PLO circuitry. > Errors associated with this test are: 50, 7B, C6, FO to FE. I don't see any system fault code on the led bits in the front of the controller board with the hood open after the E7 "test in progress" status byte is cleared. (So I do see the blinkenlights, just there is no fault code besides the error message on the service terminal. Error 50: > 50 Ensure that positioner motor lock is in the unlock > position. If OK, then replace servo module, > microprocessor module So, sounds like there is once chance for me: to find this "positioner motor lock" and move it into the unlock position. However, I have no idea how to do that? It sounds reasonable that this thing may be locked for transport, I sure hope so, because otherwise all my moving and installing this thing would have been in vain. any help with this is appreciated. Not that I depend on the RA81 for operation, but I've got it and I believe in having a VAX collection with 100% functional stuff. regards -Gunther PS: Anyone having dead RA81's for parts? Anyone has spare SDI bulkheads? I need one or two 2- or 4- port bulkheads for the RA disks outside the SA600 cabinet. -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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Lifting stuff into racks

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I have successfully used automotive floor jacks. I use a sheet of wood on top of the swivel part, mainly to avoid marking the drive. Once it is loose it takes two people to stabilize it (they are very awkward) and a third to move the jack. This can give you good height adjustment. For several years I had a transmission jack which worked the best. It dealt with the center of gravity better. Of course these only work in the bottom half of the rack and with rails. I had several roll around tables of different heights that worked for dealing with drives in the top of the equipment. We could generally use wood blocks to get the drives to the right heights. Most of those were tape drives and tended to be more awkward and not on rails. Most of the time I have used a pallet jack with wooden blocks. They roll real easy and have an easy height adjustment. Makes it easy to slide the drive onto a pallet after removal. You can block up one fork and balance the drive on that if you can get one fork inside the cabinet. I also have a small chain hoist that I got when I bought a JEOL electron microscope. However I rarely use it for lifting drives. Paxton Astoria, OR

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Lifting stuff into racks

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 12, 8:30, Ethan Dicks wrote: > If you've ever seen a rack with three RA81 drives in it, you wouldn't > suggest that method - they are well over 100lbs each, IIRC. Yes, well over. > Unfortunately, most of the big stuff I load into racks (BA-11s, RL02s, > RA-81s) does involve using a couple of muscular friends. Little stuff > like BA-23s, RX02s, PDP-8/a boxes, etc., I do myself. Me too... > I think the heaviest thing I put in a rack by myself was a PDP-8/i I'd > removed to get the rack up to my bedroom when I was in high school. Since > it's so low in the rack and the rails are so large, I remember balancing > it on my foot to lift it up the few inches it needed. Still took several > tries to line it all up. That's what I've done for my RL02s, a few times. I can *just* manage one on my own. The heavier drives need at least two people, as does a BA11-K. > Moving the rack by myself was a treat - nearly > killed me... I stood *in* the H-960, with my feet sticking out the square > hole for cable access, then hopped it up the stairs one-at-a-time. That must have been quite a sight! I've just moved one myself, but on the flat (which is probably cheating ;-) even though it is rather full). They're heavy strong racks -- mine has an 11/40 right in the top, and the rest is so heavy that it doesn't topple or sway, even with the 11/40 fully extended out the front, and no extra extension legs. > I do *not* recommend anyone else try it. Indeed not! -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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100 Mb ARCnet?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 12, 4:22, Iggy Drougge wrote: > I found this link on USENET: > http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1294262119 > > Is it a 100 Mb ARCnet card? 100 Mb ARCnet? > The ThomasConrad name implies that is the case, but 100 Mb ARCnet? No, it's TCNS (a proprietary alternative to 100Mb Ethernet, but it doesn't use compatible protocols). Thomas Conrad made several types of network card: 10base2, 100baseT, 100VG, ArcNET, token ring, TCNS, ... -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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WTS - Cisco PIX

by KESullivan＠Norstan.com

12-November Vibes Technologies has the following used/refurbished Cisco products available for sale: Qty-2 PIX-520-UR-CH $3500/EA Qty-1 PIX-520-1K-CH $2900/EA In Vibes stock, tested and warranted for 90 days. Please contact me if you would like a list of our Cisco inventory. Kevin E. Sullivan Vibes Technologies, Inc. 763-971-6267 www.vibestech.com

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VAX (Was: Cromemco landmarks)

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Allison wrote: > >The LPSxx printers had the FPU, at least the LPS40, 20 and 32 >as I was involved with those. The Turbo20 and lps32 had the Cvax >which had FPU. Re-reading my earlier message, I think I had the wrong empasis. I meant "Almost certainly *some* kit shipped without an FPU" not that all non-computer kit shipped without an FPU. For example, the DECnis started out using culled SOCs: no guarantee that the FPU worked and no guarantee that more than (I think) five of the cache banks were good. This was a way of using up SOCs that were no good for computer systems. I think I remember reading in one of the DTJs that some of the VT1xxx and/or VTX systems had no FPU. Antonio arcarlini(a)iee.org

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New acquisitions: Suns, room

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On November 12, Don Maslin wrote: > > It would be a wonderful world if more computer geeks were homosexual. > > ...and even better if more homosexuals weren't! DOH! I'm going to close my mailer for a while. This could get ugly. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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Lifting stuff into racks

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

It worked for the Egyptians :) <Back on track> How about renting a chain lift (try hardware store or auto parts store) such as used for lifting engine blocks? -----Original Message----- From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:30 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Lifting stuff into racks On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Charles E. Fox wrote: > The technique I have used with audio recorders, ( probably > not as heavy as computer equipment,) is to lay the rack on its back, > install the equipment, round up muscular friends and stand the rack > up. If we built buildings like this, I don't think we'd have many skyscrapers. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

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offered: 8-port AUI Fanout

by red＠bears.org

I've got an ISOLAN 8-port Ethernet AUI Fanout available for the taking by anybody more interested in obsolete network topologies than I. If there's any interest, contact me off list to arrange a deal. ok r.

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TRS-80 Network 3 Controller

by univac2＠earthlink.net

I just bought a TRS-80 Network 3 Controller on eBay. I don't really know anything about it, but having missed out on a similar item earlier, I decided it was worth the $30. The downside is it doesn't have a power supply. Does anyone here have one they'd like to pass along? Also, any information about it would be usefull. All I know about it was told to me by a friend who used the system at a school she taught at once. Thanks, Owen

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VAX (Was: Cromemco landmarks)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

The LPSxx printers had the FPU, at least the LPS40, 20 and 32 as I was involved with those. The Turbo20 and lps32 had the Cvax which had FPU. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Carlini, Antonio <Antonio.Carlini(a)riverstonenet.com> To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:55 PM Subject: RE: VAX (Was: Cromemco landmarks) > > >Ethan Dicks wrote: > >--- "Carlini, Antonio" <Antonio.Carlini(a)riverstonenet.com> wrote: > > > >> Yes. But although there were part numbers > >> produced for MicroVAX II CPU modules > >> *without* the FPU, I don't think *any* were > >> ever shipped. > > > >Not even for VAXeln? > > AFAIK, no M7606 modules shipped > without an FPU. I don't have them handy but > IIRC there were four part numbers, two > with FPU and two without (the other > "variable" was something like the > manufacturer for the on-board memory or > some such). None of the non-FPU > parts shipped (I'm not sure whether > any were built for testing). > > Other bits of kit almost certainly shipped > without an FPU: for example, I've > just had a look at some preliminary > DEMSA schematics and I can see > no FPU. I would expect that other > "dedicated" kit (LPS printers, > various X-terminals etc) also > dispensed with the FPU if it > was not necessary. > > Antonio > arcarlini(a)iee.org >

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VAX (Was: Cromemco landmarks)

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>Ethan Dicks wrote: >--- "Carlini, Antonio" <Antonio.Carlini(a)riverstonenet.com> wrote: > >> Yes. But although there were part numbers >> produced for MicroVAX II CPU modules >> *without* the FPU, I don't think *any* were >> ever shipped. > >Not even for VAXeln? AFAIK, no M7606 modules shipped without an FPU. I don't have them handy but IIRC there were four part numbers, two with FPU and two without (the other "variable" was something like the manufacturer for the on-board memory or some such). None of the non-FPU parts shipped (I'm not sure whether any were built for testing). Other bits of kit almost certainly shipped without an FPU: for example, I've just had a look at some preliminary DEMSA schematics and I can see no FPU. I would expect that other "dedicated" kit (LPS printers, various X-terminals etc) also dispensed with the FPU if it was not necessary. Antonio arcarlini(a)iee.org

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VAX (Was: Cromemco landmarks)

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

Carlos Murillo wrote: > Aha! So, if I were doing numerical linear algebra in a uVaxII > w/o the optional > FPU, I could expect performance to be badly hit with respect > to the 0.9 VUP > rating. Yes. But although there were part numbers produced for MicroVAX II CPU modules *without* the FPU, I don't think *any* were ever shipped. > How do I know if my Vaxstation 2000 has the optional FPU? What is > its model number? The UV2K tech manual is at http://208.190.133.201/decimages/moremanuals.htm but I'm pretty sure that all 2K systems shipped with an FPU. > What about the Vaxstation 4000/60? Does it have a built-in FPU? Again it's a separate chip (IIRC) but neyond the MicroVAX II era, everything shipped with an FPU. I cannot think of any exceptions. Antonio arcarlini(a)iee.org

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New acquisitions: Suns, room, and wife requirements...

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Well, I did okay, she's just aloowing me the whole basement, without questions, in the house we're buying... Space for the computers, bar, game table... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Cameron Kaiser [mailto:spectre@stockholm.ptloma.edu] ! Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 3:22 PM ! To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org ! Subject: Re: New acquisitions: Suns, room ! ! ! > Well, I won't totally eliminate the possibility, but I ! think I'm going to ! > have somewhat different criteria from now on. So... does ! anyone here know ! > any single, female, pretty, smart computer geeks/nerds, ! someone that would ! > think of "writing a compiler" as spending time together? ! ! Funny, my checklist reads remarkably similar. ! ! -- ! ----------------------------- personal page: ! http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- ! Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ! ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu ! -- When in doubt, take a pawn. -- Mission: Impossible ! ("Crack-Up") ------------ !

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Adventure for 8080

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Jay: If you can come up with a text file or a hard-copy printout, that's more than I have at this point. I'm hoping to get CP/M working after I get the integrated debugger working. Thanks. Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile) -----Original Message----- From: Jay Jaeger [mailto:cube1@home.com] Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 6:40 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Adventure for 8080 Back in the '70s, I did a port of Adventure using BDS C. But it needed CP/M. I don't know if I have a machine readable copy, but I suspect there is one floating around somewhere. Jay Jaeger At 10:50 AM 9/26/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Hello, all: > > I want to do something fun with the Altair Emulator. Does anyone >have a binary for Adventure? I don't yet have the ability to complie >programs in the emulator (because of problems booting CP/M), so I could use >a memory image. > > If someone has one, please contact me off line. Thanks. > >Rich > >========================== >Richard A. Cini, Jr. >Congress Financial Corporation >1133 Avenue of the Americas >30th Floor >New York, NY 10036 >(212) 545-4402 >(212) 840-6259 (facsimile) --- Jay R. Jaeger The Computer Collection cube1(a)home.com visit http://members.home.net/thecomputercollection

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Sun / CalComp Printer networking problems

by Arno_1983＠gmx.de

On Nov 7, 22:54 GMT, Pete Turnbull wrote: >> at first: Is it okay to continue our mailing this way (directly mailing the >> messages, only CCing to Classiccmp.org? It's because I'm on the Digest and it >> has been arriving at about 4 P.M. local time the last few days, which is too >> late for me to stay in school and pick it up the same day (alas, don't have >> Internet at home yet). > >Yes, that's OK. I don;t know if you'll necessarily get a faster response, >but it's worth a try :-) Yes, it was, as I was able to pick up your direct message on Friday. The Digest with it arrived during the weekend, so I wouldn't have got it 'til this morning. >> And even worse...the DATA LED does no longer blink when there's traffic on >> the Ethernet... > >Oh dear, a bad sign, I fear. So what!? Hope to get a functional one somewhere? Try to find & repair the fault at component level? Arno Kletzander Arno_1983(a)gmx.de -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net

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busses

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

STD was a z80 bus and SS50 was 6800 based/biased. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Quebbeman <dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com> To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:13 AM Subject: RE: busses > >> > I wonder if he buys MULTIBUS, UNIBUS, OMNIBUS, VMEBUS, ISABUS, EISABUS, >> > or PCI busses? >> >> Or NuBus, S-100 bus, SS-50 bus, Benton Harbor bus, Versabus, or Pet bus? > >STD bus (or is that the same as SS-50)? > >-dq >

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100 Mb ARCnet?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I found this link on USENET: > http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1294262119 > > Is it a 100 Mb ARCnet card? 100 Mb ARCnet? > The ThomasConrad name implies that is the case, but 100 Mb ARCnet? I thought TC also made Ethernet cards, so I wouldn't have made that assumption. But yes, this does appear to be a 100Mbps Arcnet card, they call it TCNS: http://www.textfiles.com/computers/PRESSRELEASE/tconrad.txt Regards, -dq

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busses

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > I wonder if he buys MULTIBUS, UNIBUS, OMNIBUS, VMEBUS, ISABUS, EISABUS, > > or PCI busses? > > Or NuBus, S-100 bus, SS-50 bus, Benton Harbor bus, Versabus, or Pet bus? STD bus (or is that the same as SS-50)? -dq

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ISIS & CP/M for MDS 225 series3

by techno＠dsuper.net

Hello folks... I've been trying to get an operating system for my MDS 225 series 3 on 8" disks. I've read that it uses ISIS (Intel System Implementation Supervisor) and that it can also run CP/M (GENERIC) according to Joe's web site http://www.intellistar.net/~rigdonj/mds.htm However, I've tried to email joe at rigdonj(a)intellistar.net But the mail bounces as undelivered. Any ideas? Doug Taylor (Techno) Sysop of the "Dead On Arrival BBS" Telnet://doabbs.dynip.com http://www-mtl.look.ca/~techno techno(a)dsuper.net

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RA81 problems, someone with a service manual can help?

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Gunther Schadow [mailto:gunther@aurora.regenstrief.org] > > O.K. I'm sure my problems are simply due to the heads being > locked as they should. I'm confident I'll find the unlock > Where is that hood lock mechanism? There is a scan of an RA81 pocket maintenance guide at http://208.190.133.201/decimages/moremanuals.htm . I don't recall exactly how much it covers, and I'm not able to check the original right now, but it might help. Antonio arcarlini(a)iee.org

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Cromemco landmarks

by pechter＠ureach.com

---- On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Allison (ajp166(a)bellatlantic.net) wrote: > From: M H Stein <mhstein(a)usa.net> > > >And that in 1987 an XXU equipped system was almost twice as fast as a > >VAX 11/780, which cost over four times as much as the largest Cromemco > >system at the time. > > > Sounds impressive...save for in 1987 the VAX11/780 was 9 years old and > out of widespread use!! By 1987 the microVAX had been around for a > while, > the midrange VAX was 4x-8x faster than the 780 and easily 1/3 the size! > > Cromemco was pretty neat but first, fastest not hardly. > > Allison The 11/780 may have been in decline by 1987... but out of widespread use isn't true. A large number of 11/780's were still being used in commercial locations (although many had been upgraded to 11/780-5's -- non FCC'd 11/785's)... but many were still in commercial use after the scientific number cruncher types moved from the 11/780 to newer faster and smaller boxes or to bigger boxes like the 8650. There were many 11/780's still in use through the late 80's at various sites... many outside the US. Saying the 11/780 was out of widespread use in '87 is like saying the 11/70 was out of widespread use in 85. Not true if you ever were in AT&T, or any ex-Bell Operating Company -- they were buying 11/70's through 1984 or so from DEC as refurbs. Bill -- Bill Pechter Systems Administrator uReach Technologies 732-335-5432 (Work) 877-661-2126 (Fax)

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Zenith Data Systems Z-386 SX/20 Free in NJ

by mythtech＠Mac.com

> Have you tried <ctrl><alt><ins>? That's what the key combo >to get into the ROM-based setup of the Zenith Z-248's used to be. As it turns out, that key combo was pointed out to me the other day, and yes, it does work. It drops you into some kind of ROM debugger, where one of the features is a setup utility. So now the Zenith has been saved from the scrap heap (as there were no takers on it), and has been set to use the 3.5" 1.44 drive (and the 360k 5.25 was upped to a 1.2 5.25, not that I needed it, but I didn't have a face plate that fit nicely in the hole, so I just used one of my many spare 5.25 drives). It is now happily collecting dust on my shelf of "good to use" computers waiting for an interviewing job to call on it. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Apple Floppy Drives (was: More Apple Pimpers)

by dan＠ekoan.com

The last thing I want to do is get involved in the Sellam/Dick spat, and I'm certainly not pimping for Apple, but... On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 at 22:42:13 -0700 Richard Erlacher wrote: > I didn't use an Apple with or without an 8" disk subsystem, but no one I know > who did useful work on an Apple][ back in '79-'85, after which the Apple][ was > pretty irrelevant, relied on the 5-1.4"diskettes. During that time period I wrote software for Apples that were used as satellite video encryption controllers. We had a custom interface card in one of the Apple slots that drove the encryptor, but we certainly relied on the standard 5 1/4" disk drives. The machines would typically be installed in remote uplink sheds, everywhere from San Diego to northern Canada, and to my knowledge we had no failures due to the disk drive. None of the drives ever received any maintenance, preventative or otherwise. And yes, I enjoyed 6502 programming very much. To tie yet another thread into this, I wrote code to work with the Hayes Micromodem II that allowed the network operator to transfer new authorization information to the Apple. (We later upgraded to the Hayes Smartmodem 1200.) These setups also used a Thunderclock card for real-time clock information. I still have a Micromodem II but I can't seem to find a Thunderclock card. Around that same time I bought a video digitizer from Microworkz -- it was a card that plugged into the Apple and accepted baseband video input. I remember writing machine code to sample the video and print out the greyscale image on an HP Thinkjet printer. Cool stuff for the early 80's. Cheers, Dan http://www.decodesystems.com/wanted.html

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100 Mb ARCnet?

by optimus＠canit.se

I found this link on USENET: http://cgi.ebay.de/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1294262119 Is it a 100 Mb ARCnet card? 100 Mb ARCnet? The ThomasConrad name implies that is the case, but 100 Mb ARCnet? -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6a.

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Xenix ?

by Richard.Sandwell＠roebry.co.uk

I have an Apricot Xen 'mainframe' which is a 286 based msdos generic from 1986. Its not ibm compatible. Comically, it does have a copy of Windows V1 on its disk which runs, well, like all versions of windows ;-) Its role was a fileserver for an ms-net network, hence the awful 'mainframe' name. I've always been intrigued that there was a port of xenix available for this machine - anyone know anything about that, or about xenix on a 286 based system in general? //Rich

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off-topic discussions and air filters

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On November 10, Sellam Ismail wrote: > Um, is this the CLASSIC COMPUTERS mailing list? Some culinary mailing > list traffics seems to be getting mixed in here. > > As we've discussed before, an occasional off topic posting is OK. A > long-assed thread is not. It's starting to drown out my pointless > argument with Dick (or is that perhaps the point?) > > At least precede your subject line with OFF-TOPIC! > > Better yet, MOVE THIS DISCUSSION ELSEWHERE!!! Hey man, it gets worse. Over on the Rescue list, we're talking about which news network babes we like best. (Personally, I've got the hots for CNN's Rudi Bakhtiar with The Weather Channel's Christina Abernathy running a close second. :)) To, ahem, inject some on-topic discussion here...has anybody found a good replacement for the air-filter medium that' DEC used in the front panels of, among other things, 10.5" pdp11/34 chassis? I've used cut-out pieces of furnace filter material with decent results, but I wonder if anyone has found anything better. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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Adventure for 8080

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: I want to do something fun with the Altair Emulator. Does anyone have a binary for Adventure? I don't yet have the ability to complie programs in the emulator (because of problems booting CP/M), so I could use a memory image. If someone has one, please contact me off line. Thanks. Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile)

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Zenith Data Systems Z-386 SX/20 Free in NJ

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>> I can't figure out how to change the setup, so it is useless to me (if I >> can't at least get it to accept a 3.5" drive, I can't use it). > >Umm, why? Why can't I figure out how to change the settings? I don't know, it doesn't seem to respond to "standard" key combos to get into a setup menu, so I am figuring it doesn't have one. There are a million and one unnamed jumpers on the MB, so I don't know if it is one of those, it doesn't seem to keep settings done thru gsetup (the program I used for my old IBM ATs and clones). I don't have a manual for it, and a quick look online turned up no info (I didn't spend a huge amount of time looking, as the system isn't very valuable to me). Why can't I use it unless it has a 3.5" drive? Because the only place a 386 is of any use to me right now, is to work as an interviewing station for a particular software package. But the application runs off a 3.5" DD disk. So if I can't get it to work with a 3.5, I can't use it (and currently, it doesn't seem to accept the DD disks in the 3.5 drive when swapped for the DD 5.25 drive, which I though a little odd, as in my past experience, I have usually gotten computers to recognize a drive and use its lowest supported disk format without messing with BIOS settings, the exception being systems that just didn't support a 3.5 at all, but since this has cutouts for 2 3.5" drives, I have to assume it should work with them.) As a result, this machine's HD, RAM, CGA card, screws, jumpers, and dust plates are of more value to me than the working unit (I normally would want the PS, but it isn't a standard AT connector, so I will just strip the fan from it). Since it IS a fully working, useable 386, I offered it here first, but no one seems to want it, so I am going to strip it next chance I get (probably later today, or tomorrow, I need the bench space back that it is chewing up). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Xenix ?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On November 11, Michael Nadeau wrote: > Xenix was also a popular option for the TRS-80 Model II/12/16/6000 series. Ahh, eventually I'd like to get my hands on a 16. Someday. I fondly remember when that machine came out. "Ooooh! A 68K!! At RADIO SHACK!!!" :-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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Xenix ?

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

At 05:06 PM 11/11/01 -0500, you wrote: > > > Remember, Xenix was originally a Microsoft product, they then sold it > off > > > to SCO (for a % ownership in SCO) > > > > > > > Actually Xenix was never a Microsoft branded product. It was Microsoft's > > but they only sold Xenix as OEM'd versions to vendors like SCO and lots > > of HW vendors who then added they modifications to support their specific > > products (like Apricot, whose machines were far from plain PCs). > >We may not all mean the same thing by "branded", but ISTR >seeing the banner "Microsoft XENIX" on that Radio Shack 68000 >machine whose model number I can never recall... Tandy Models 16 and 6000, it was a dual proc box, with both a Z-80 and a 68K processor. on seperate system boards. the 68K cboards were in a cardcage in the back, and IIRC the Z-80 wqas in the bottom of the machine. You could boot CP/M, Trs-Dos, CP/M-68K or Xenix on the beasties... (I used to own 2 of them) a local ISP (Eskimo north) got started originally on model 1's, then 3's (in the guise of a BBS) then he moved it up to a Model 16 running Xenix (still a bbs) then when the whole "internet" thing started to take off, he used the 16's he had as shell boxes with a couple of suns to do the talking to the internet...... He used to do a mod on the 16/6000 ramboards that involved running a couple of wires and changing out the PALS on them to allow 1 Meg per board instead fo the 256K they shipped with (256Kx1 chips instead of 64Kx1 chips)

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absurdity

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>what the hell is all this bullshit? food and now religion. get ontopic! Ok... what kind of classic computer do you think God used to design the cosmos... while eating his Nutella? :-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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hard-sector 5 1/4 disk

by mythtech＠Mac.com

> Mac -> Asante SCSI to ethernet adapter -> Farallon Etherwave >ethernet to Localtalk adapter -> Laserwriter >I likely would have removed the adapter chain and >connected the Laserwriter to the Mac directly with the Localtalk >ports but I wasn't going to try and walk someone through a >reconfigure like that over the phone. Yeah, I would have gone Mac to Ethernet (if the mac needed the ethernet), and LaserWriter to Mac via localtalk, run Apple's local talk bridge software, and the whole ethernet network (including the local mac) will see the laserwriter on the ethernet network. Much easier than ethernet to etherwave to localtalk. But you are right, if they didn't know to connect the LW directly to the mac in the first place, you probably would have had fun trying to walk them thru it over the phone. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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busses

by RJOHNSONAU＠aol.com

ho buys used busses i have 80 diesel and a few gas some junk ones have to sell next sat 100e texar drive pensacola check me out http://www.ronjohnsonauction.com

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Fw: DEC Vax 6000-620

by geoffrob＠stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au

>From comp.sys.dec followups to original poster please. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph M" <jmon(a)retechwest.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 3:42 AM Subject: FS: DEC Vax 6000-620 > Dear Group, > > RETECHWEST, http://www.retechwest.com, currently has the following DEC > equipment for sale: > > Recently deinstalled from a Fortune 500, > > (1) DEC VAX 6000-620 w/ the following: > > (1) B1NI Adapter TK50 Controller > (1) T1012-01 > (1) T1043 > (1) T1035 A1P4 > (2) T2012 > (1) H2-P1 > (2) A2P1 T2053-DF > (1) A1P3 T2053-CE > (1) A1P3 T2053-CL > (1) CO1 T2054 > (1) CO1 T2054-AA > (1) AO1 T2019 > (2) H7215 200W Power Supplies > (3) H7214 Power Modules > (1) H7206A Power Module > (1) H-405-E Power Module > (1) 64AMA-YE Cabinet > (2) 36-27843-02 - A1 > (1) H3033 DNB 32 Dist. Panel (7 ports ) > > Also: > > (2) HSC70 Systems > (1) SA 6000 > > > Please reply with contact email if there is any interest. Thank you. > > > RETECHWEST > info(a)retechwest.com

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Xenix ?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > Remember, Xenix was originally a Microsoft product, they then sold it off > > to SCO (for a % ownership in SCO) > > > > Actually Xenix was never a Microsoft branded product. It was Microsoft's > but they only sold Xenix as OEM'd versions to vendors like SCO and lots > of HW vendors who then added they modifications to support their specific > products (like Apricot, whose machines were far from plain PCs). We may not all mean the same thing by "branded", but ISTR seeing the banner "Microsoft XENIX" on that Radio Shack 68000 machine whose model number I can never recall... -dq

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