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Slowdown util for 486/586 systems to emulate XT/AT systems

by sipke＠wxs.nl

Somebody on one of the lists/groups i visiit recently asked a utility to slowdown Pentium I systems or 486-machines in order to run old dos-legacy software that was programmed for slower XT/AT class systems. I found the util again and I've put it up on my website... http://xgistor.ath.cx Go to the file section and select the folder "slowdown" there you will find the slow586.zip file ........... since it may interest virtual computer-collectors (emulation) I've decided to post it to this list as well. regards Sipke de Wal

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Macintosh

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Could someone tell me what the last version of Macintosh System to run on > 68K machines was? Where can I get a copy? That would be System 6.0.8, and you should be abe to download it from Apple's FTP site. Try navigating through the stuff at http://mirror.apple.com/. -dq

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Question for HP 9826 owners

by CLeyson＠aol.com

Joe >>I have the binaries for HP-9826 HPL. Copied them onto floppy disks, > What did you copy them from? When you say that you have the binaries, > what exactly do you mean? The only binaries that I've seen for the 9826 are > the .BIN files that are used with BASIC. They're language extentions and > device divers files that can be included in the main OS file or loaded > separately. But HPL is a complete stand alone OS and it doesn't use .BIN > files I have the HPL system file and drivers and also copies of Basic 4 system and associated .BIN, .PROG files etc. The files were very kindly emailed to me by Brian Skilton in the UK who got them as disk copies from Bruce Rodgers. Thanks to both Brian and Bruce. Brian used lif2dos or lifutil to make DOS copies and made a note of the file descriptor bytes (11th and 12th byte in the directory entry). I copied the files onto LIF formatted disks and edited the file descriptor byte. Success ! Basic 4 boots and loads. Tried the same with HPL and got the FFFFFFC4 error message. > Why did you edit them? Lifutil is erratic. The problem is that HP used > lots of different formats for LIF files and the file descriptor byte is > loaded in different places in different LIF files and Lifutil can't find > many of them so it doesn't accurately interpet the file structure therefore > it frequently "scrambles" files. That makes a lot of sense and could explain the problem. Brian has also sent me the directory listing for the two HPL disks using lifutil to catalogue them. Note: file descriptor bytes appear under date field. Disk 1 Volume Label: H9826 File Name Pro Type Rec/file byte/rec Address Date Time SYSTEM_HPL SYSTM 433 256 16 E9 42 Disk 2 Volume Label: V4 File Name Pro Type Rec/file byte/rec Address Date Time revid -6128 1 256 12 E8 10 cbackup -6124 16 256 13 E8 14 ibackup -6124 21 256 29 E8 14 9825key -6128 11 256 50 E8 10 9876chars -6128 2 256 61 E8 10 I had noticed that the first used sector on disk 2 is 12 and not 16 but I wouldn't have thought that would make much difference. Besides, I havn't got to disk 2 yet. I guess there must be a few more bytes that need editing. I will see if Brian can send me a hex dump of the directory sector and go through it byte by byte. Chris

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Martha Stewart

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 02:10 PM 11/29/2001 -0500, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: >Hungarian notation meets Homemaker nation... lpszGoodThing? - John

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Martha Stewart

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Actually I'd like to find a nice way to hid various components so that >they don't show up at first glance. Of course this is related to my HA >background (hobby of course) and the fact that if I had a PDP 8 it >would look a little out of place in my living room (I've got the >garage and a computer for my 'stuff'). I started once turning a PowerMac 7200 into a picture. I got as far as framing the board, and mounting the HD to the back of the frame. The power supply was going to go on the floor, with the cables running down the back of the frame, and into the wall (to pop back out at floor level). I stopped because I was going to have to make some strange angled connectors (kind of elongated 180's) to get things to run where I wanted... and it started to become too much effort... so now I am useing the 7200 in a picture frame, sitting on a desk. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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S. Ring has badtrans virus

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

If you see a mail from S.RING on the list delete it, the attachment has badtrans virus. Allison

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Martha Stewart

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> A couple of years ago, she dated Charles Simonyi, chief software architect > of Microsoft and former Xerox PARC scientist who wrote the first WYSIWYG > word processor. Maybe that's where she gets it. That's the most interesting gossip I've heard all year! Hungarian notation meets Homemaker nation... -dq

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Spam from _sring@uslink.net?

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

According to what I have read about the virus, it "replies" to unread emails. The copy I got was a re: to "RE: Rubber Restorer", which was a thread a few weeks ago about restoring printer feeder rollers. I did post in that thread. I would venture that everyone on the CC list who got a copy had it titled in re: something they previously posted. I guess we have a second reason to be upset with Mr. (or Ms.) Ring: s/he didn't read at least one of our brilliant email posts. BTW, can anybody check to see if Ring is a member of the list? -----Original Message----- From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 2:32 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Spam from _sring(a)uslink.net? <snip> Curious, as I use this account exclusively to receive CC messages, and mostly post to the list from it. <snip>

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Concise list of different Mac models

by hansp＠aconit.org

Hi there, Does anyone know of a web page which list all the different Mac models showing basic specs like processer and speed, memory and disk sizes? I keep seeing Macs in the stores but can't keep all the model names and numbers straight so a one or two sheet list describing them would be very useful. If no-one comes up with this I may just make one up from the Apple Spec Database - in that case I'd like to know what key spec items should be listed. -- hbp

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Macintosh

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Could someone tell me what the last version of Macintosh System to run on >68K machines was? Where can I get a copy? Varies with the machine. Which 68k processor (68000, 020, 030, 040), 32 bit clean? The best place to find out what the last supported OS is, is check the apple spec database. Down at the bottom of each mac's listing is a list of supported OS versions. Supported is a key term here, some can use versions that are not supported, but you use them at your own risk. And don't assume similar machines will always support the same OSes. For instance, the Centris/Quadra 610 lists 8.0 as the last supported OS, but other 040 machines like the Quadra 605 (a machine that is actually a step down from the 610), can support 8.1. I can tell you from experience, the 610 will accept an 8.1 install, and will even run for some time... but you will eventually find that the finder will drag to a halt (even scrolling a window will cause the watch to spin longer and longer, finally topping out at about 5 minutes of spinning). And it will eventually corrupt the hard drive. So for the 610, stop at 8.0, but the 605 can go to 8.1 safely. You really need to check the spec database on a machine by machine basis. And even then, it might pay to think about it, ie: my Classic II can support 7.6.1, but it runs faster and smoother, and uses less RAM if I stop at 7.5.5. A general rule of thumb is, 6.0.8 for < 1mb Mac's, 7.5.5 for all other 68000, 7.6.1 for 020's and 030's, and 8.1 for 040's. But there are the flukes in there like the Centris/Quadra 610, so just check before you install. As for getting them, System 6.0.8 (the last pre 7 version) is available on Apple's web site for free. So is System 7.5.5. Anything newer you will need to find used somewhere (many mac resellers have old OS CDs for sale cheap... or just ask a friend that has a version to dupe it for you, short of OS 9 and X, Apple probably won't care... but you do that at your own risk, they might care, who knows). Older OS versions (pre 6) used to be available on Apple's FTP site if you dug around, but I am not sure they are still there. And as a silly aside... has anyone ever tried running OS 7.0.1P on a 128k Mac? According to Apple's Spec database, that is the last supported version for the 128k... I have always wondered if it is a typo, or if it really can run System 7 (someday maybe I will try it with mine) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Tandy PC-4 pocket computer

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

Some guy sent me one for free and just got some new batteries in it. Powers on and says READY P0 but can't figure out anything else. Google coming up 404 for usability info on this thing. How do you work this thing?

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Concise list of different Mac models

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Hi there, > > Does anyone know of a web page which list all the different Mac models > showing basic specs like processer and speed, memory and disk sizes? > > I keep seeing Macs in the stores but can't keep all the model names and > numbers straight so a one or two sheet list describing them would be > very useful. > > If no-one comes up with this I may just make one up from the Apple Spec > Database - in that case I'd like to know what key spec items should be > listed. That's what I did- just print out AppleSpec into book form. -dq

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Macintosh

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > Could someone tell me what the last version of Macintosh > > System to run on 68K machines was? Where can I get a copy? > > According to LowEndMac it's either 7.6.1 or 8.1 depending on > the machine.... Adrian's right, I read Sridhar's message wrong... -dq

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Macintosh

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: One Without Reason [mailto:vance@ikickass.org] > Sent: 29 November 2001 14:41 > To: Classic Computers Mailing List > Subject: Macintosh > > > > Could someone tell me what the last version of Macintosh > System to run on > 68K machines was? Where can I get a copy? According to LowEndMac it's either 7.6.1 or 8.1 depending on the machine.... -- Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd e: adrian.graham(a)corporatemicrosystems.com w: www.corporatemicrosystems.com w2: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk (Online Computer Museum)

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Question for HP 9826 owners

by CLeyson＠aol.com

I have the binaries for HP-9826 HPL. Copied them onto floppy disks, edited the file type directory entries with Lifutil and tried loading them. I get the error message "unexpected use of FFFFFFC4" Can anyone shed any light on this ? Best Regards Chris Leyson

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Is it a Lisa or Mac XL?!

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > It sucks, but if you scrap hardware, you have to render it useless. > > Would installing Windoze on it qualify? That doesn't make it useless, just weighs it downlike a boat anchor... paint it grey, stick it in the bass boat. -dq

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PDP-8/E Powersupply (was: Re: DEC PC04/PR8E Question)

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> > OK, the last part of my shipment just showed up, the Papertape reader. I'd > > thought the PC04 was a reader/punch. Am I correct in my revised > > assumption, that it came in three models; reader/punch, reader, and punch? > > I've heard of punch/reader and reader-only models. Never heard of a > punch-only one. It could exist, though. I'm basing the guess about a Punch only model from the pictures of the switches in the printset I've got. It shows four layouts; Reader, Punch, and two types of Punch/Reader. > Well, on the front there should be a switch panel with 2 swtiches on it > (reader on/off and tape feed). The punch/reader version has 4 swtiches > (The other 2 are the same 2 functions for the punch). That much at least looks complete. > Inside the punch takes up the right hand side of the chassis. The logic > backplane and PSU are on the left (the backplane will be fairly empty for > a reader-only version, I think). The reader sits in the middle -- it's > very simple -- a stepper motor with a large sproket wheel on the shaft, a > 'festoon' lamp, and a phototransistor array. And not a lot else. Hmm, in this case it sounds like I might have a complete Reader if I'm lucky. I've not really spent much time looking at it yet. So far I've spent my time looking into the PDP-8/E. Overall it looks pretty good, in part thanks to the fact that the previous owner had started to restore it a couple years ago. I'm getting ready to see about checking out the powersupply, hopefully either tonite or tomorrow morning. Is it safe to power it on to test the voltages without any kind of a load? Also, is there anyway to 'lubricate' the switches on the front panel? Zane

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FYI: Otrona 2001 on ebay

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

You don't see many of these around. It was a more MS-DOS compatible model, with a larger screen than the Attache, that came out just before Otrona went under. So far, it's bid is under $40. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1302397837 BTW, it's not my auction. I have an Attache 8:16, but I don't plan to bid on the 2001. Bob

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Is it a Lisa or Mac XL?!

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Hellige [mailto:jhellige@earthlink.net] > I took my Profile apart the other night and any hopes of > swapping another drive in there were dashed since the ST506 has an > Apple-specific board on it. Tried that, myself -- just as a curiosity. As you said, it's kind of weird in there. I wonder, though, whether there's an easier way to do it. Maybe the HD adaptors that came with the newer ones (for internal disks) were standard enough to have something else plugged in. (haven't checked) It would be interesting to have a Maxtor <whatever that model is that DEC used for the RD54> in a Lisa. They were about 150 megabytes. Better if the SCSI port actually could be used to boot the machine. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Olivetti PR2300 printer

by donm＠cts.com

Is any one of you cpllectors interested in getting a sample of this early '80s inkjet? A local thrift shop has one - unpriced, but I'd think cheap - that I can pickup and ship on request. But, your request better be quick as I will be away for a week starting Saturday. - don

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Is it a Lisa or Mac XL?!

by CordaAJ＠nswc.navy.mil

Wow! We could finally claim that we are _real_ computer archeologists... The kind that use a shovel and pick! If we look hard enough, we might even find an SGI Jurrasic Classic, or a Predator rack! Sounds fun! -al- -acorda(a)1bigred.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Douglas Quebbeman [mailto:dhquebbeman@theestopinalgroup.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:40 PM > To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' > Subject: RE: Is it a Lisa or Mac XL?! > > > > I'll add that the Lisa 2 is actually an upgraded Lisa 1. > When Apple's > > Twiggy drives proved troublesome, Apple apparently offered > an upgrade to > > anyone with a Lisa to replace the Twiggy's with a Sony 3.5" > drive. So you > > got a new drive assembly and front panel, and returned the > old ones. > > Most people took advantage of this upgrade, which is why > it's so hard to > > find an original Lisa these days. > > It's time for a group of us to find the Utah landfill > where they dumped the Lisa inventory 15 years ago... > > Since you can find undecayed hotdogs from the 1960s > in a landfill, I'm thinking the Lisas should be well > preserved... > > -dq >

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Tandy PC-4 pocket computer

by jismay＠gkar.unixboxen.net

I have a complete PC-4 basic setup including the programmer's manual and the user's manual I even have the leatherette slipcase for the unit. I will try to get the manuals scanned and put on the web when I get the chance. http://agamemnon.unixboxen.net

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S100 hard drives and controllers

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > Did Morrow make a hard disk controller? Who made controllers and > > drives (if you could afford one) for these systems. > > Yes. Morrow made the Disk Jockey. I believe Tarbell also produced a hard > drive controller. So did Godbout (CompuPro), and California Computer > Systems. I know there are many I'm missing. The Disk Jockey was the name of the floppy controller; it may well have also been the name of the hard drive controller, but I still have the photo and docs for the floppy controler... -dq

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S100 hard drives and controllers

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> wrote: > Yes. Morrow made the Disk Jockey. I believe Tarbell also produced a hard > drive controller. So did Godbout (CompuPro), and California Computer > Systems. I know there are many I'm missing. Morrow Disk Jockey controllers were floppy-disk controllers. I think their ST-412 interface hard disk controller was called the HDC/DMA or DMAHDC. -Frank McConnell

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Is it a Lisa or Mac XL?!

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Jeff Hellige wrote: > > > Just from looking at the one in the Profile, and not having > > another 506 to directly compare it to, it looks like the Apple board > > is being used in place of whatever circuit card it would normally > > have. In fact, the interface to the drive is a single ribbon cable > > coming in from the side vice the dual data/control cables normally > > associated with the 506-type drives. > > Jeff, you are correct. For whatever reason that Apple had a habit of, the > normal board was replaced by a custom Apple board. I doubt you could drop > in a non-Apple replacement drive and have it work. Perhaps he could pull that board from the Lisa drive and slap it onto the generic version of the same drive? Just a thought... -dq

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Spam from _sring@uslink.net?

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

same here, it was a badtrans.b in a file ending in .SCR the winders virus propagation scritpting language. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey S. Sharp <jss(a)subatomix.com> To: Classic Computers Mailing List <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:50 PM Subject: Re: Spam from _sring(a)uslink.net? >On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > >> Has anyone else gotten an audio file from S. Ring <_sring(a)uslink.net> >> with an audio file attachment, bearing the subject of an old CC >> message? > >It was not *really* an audio file, but yes, that happened to me. > >-- >Jeffrey S. Sharp >jss(a)subatomix.com >

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S. Ring has badtrans virus

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Save for two things... I could not even touch the mail file or Norton AV would scream virus. Since I could not tiuch it there was no clue as to the content (save for virus laden). The machine at no time ever was infected but because of how lookoutdistress works you cant delete an element of the ISAM file that has the offending mail message and norton was trying to do that. After a day of win98se installing the sound hardware(board level disabled!) that I dont want but not the second parallel port I do want w9x is still guano! Allison -----Original Message----- From: Curt Vendel <curt(a)atari-history.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:07 PM Subject: Re: S. Ring has badtrans virus >Yeah, > > I got it too, I never open anything unless I know who the person is and >even then I always look at the attachment first before opening it. The >file being a virus was pretty apparent when I saw the extension .doc.pif >which is a fairly classic sign of some form of virus like the Nimda/sadmind. > > >Curt > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John Lawson" <jpl15(a)panix.com> >To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 9:53 AM >Subject: Re: S. Ring has badtrans virus > > >> >> >> It was sent to me 'personally', ie not as a classiccmp post. Since it >> was an unsolicited attachment from an unacknowledged source, it filed it >> in /dev/nul. >> >> just FYI if any listmembers get the thing... >> >> >> Cheerz >> >> John >> >> >> > >

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S100 hard drives and controllers

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: Did Morrow make a hard disk controller? Who made controllers and drives (if you could afford one) for these systems. Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile)

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Spam from _sring@uslink.net?& archive mining

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I got sent the virus too, by the original poster _sring. Deleted it thanks to the warning on the list. Unfortunately I deleted it before I checked the header. As to Spam from CCMP. I have this one email address that I use only for the CCMP list. I get no Spam at this address, well maybe one or less a month, and then it is talked about a lot on the list so I know everyone got it. I use this list as an example of an excellently run list. I do not see evidence anyone has successfully mined the archives for addresses. Paxton Astoria, OR

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Is it a Lisa or Mac XL?!

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I took my Profile apart the other night and any hopes of > swapping another drive in there were dashed since the ST506 has an > Apple-specific board on it. isn't the apple-specific board piggy-backed onto the board that's there in a non-apple version of the drive? -dq

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S100 hard drives and controllers

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Hello, all: > > Did Morrow make a hard disk controller? Who made controllers and > drives (if you could afford one) for these systems. Yeah, I have the brochure for it somewhere; IIRC, the photo showed one of those big Winchester drives with the transparent plastic enclosure. -dq

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south west boards

by pgentil1＠twcny.rr.com

i'm looking to buy bare or populated swtpc mp-a2 and mp-s boards. i would appreciate any help on this. thanks, philip j gentile 1035 smith ridge road bridgeport, ny 13030 315.476.7859 voice 315.476.7865 fax

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Classic Computer Collection For Sale

by pcautomation＠mindspring.com

Hello Everyone, I have come to the conclusion that it is time to sell my entire collection of Old microcomputers. I have collected over the last 20 years over 125 computers, including 10 Kaypro's, 5 or 6 Osbornes,plus the Original Tan case model. 2 Original TRS-80 Model 1's Complete with just about everything ever made for it. Also A Original Commodore PET 2001 with 8kb Ram, and built in Cassette. The Entire Kaypro & Osborne User Group Software on Floppy disks (About 200 ?), Hundreds if not thousands of original manuals, and tech reference books for Osborne, Kaypro, TRS-80. A large collection of old Computer Mags, Several hundred Games still boxed for the Commodore series 64,VIC20, 16, and Plus4.. Most all of my Commodores are in the original boxes and in mint condition. Also have large collection of TI-994A computers including , 2 expansion interfaces, and tons of software and extras. TRS-80's ? Almost the entire collection of the COCO series. Apples, Mac's and several hundred pounds of manuals and software. Lots of old printers, external Hard drives, SCSI Cdrom's, Modems, CGA,EGA,VGA,TTL, Composite (Color & Mono) Monitors, VGACommodore CBM's, TRS-80's.. 1000's of diskettes of utilities, games for CPM computers.. GAD's it way to much to think about and I'm starting to get depressed thinking of parting with it all (Smile..), but I am moving to new things (Getting a Life) and it would be impossible to move or keep this treasure. Again an entire bedroom is full to the ceiling of this stuff, no furniture in that room, just my collection boxed and stacked carefully. Way to many items to mention here, but I have Many Thousands of Dollars invested in my collection, and will sell it mostly at my cost to someone willing to buy it complete. Most all of these items are in Mint condition. You will need a large truck to move it all, as it fills an entire bedroom full to the ceiling. All items are boxed and have been kept in a controlled environment for many years. If you have Several thousand dollars to spend and are serious got a big truck and can travel to Florida to pick it up, I will email you a copy of the list or items.. I would much rather sell this as a whole than take several months and a Hugh amount of time boxing these items one by one.. If interested email me at musicman38(a)mindspring.com Phil..

24 years, 7 months

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S. Ring has badtrans virus

by CLeyson＠aol.com

Got two infected emails from ebay members. s3msong.doc.scr or pif Chris Leyson

24 years, 7 months

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Is it a Lisa or Mac XL?!

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I'll add that the Lisa 2 is actually an upgraded Lisa 1. When Apple's > Twiggy drives proved troublesome, Apple apparently offered an upgrade to > anyone with a Lisa to replace the Twiggy's with a Sony 3.5" drive. So you > got a new drive assembly and front panel, and returned the old ones. > Most people took advantage of this upgrade, which is why it's so hard to > find an original Lisa these days. It's time for a group of us to find the Utah landfill where they dumped the Lisa inventory 15 years ago... Since you can find undecayed hotdogs from the 1960s in a landfill, I'm thinking the Lisas should be well preserved... -dq

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S. Ring has badtrans virus

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 28, 12:38, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > But the way it does it is *very* questionable.. The email is routed to one > > of their servers before being routed to you inbox. No, it just runs another server on your own machine (127.0.0.1, localhost) and redirects mail to that before giving it to Outlook. > Network Associates' Groupshield Exchange and Computer Associates' > eTrust InoculateIT! Exchange Option scan the mail as it comes in > to the server and what gets put in the inbox has been sanitized... > > except, apparantly, the BADTRANS virus. Fortunately, the client- > side realtime scanner caught it... Lots of things miss it because it's fairly new. It's only been around a few days. Most of the anti-virus sites have had updates for couple of days or more, though. One of the ways it works is to look through existing mail for messages that haven't been replied to, and reply to them. That way the recipient not only gets mail from someone whose address he recognises, it has a sensible subject line too. That's probably why several list members have it, and why Sellam got what he did. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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S. Ring has badtrans virus

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, David Woyciesjes wrote: > > > Well, I'm running Norton Corporate Edition, with Outlook 2000, and it > > scans my e-mail as it comes in, before I even read the message! Works > > out nice :-) > > Was it prescient enough to detect Badtrans.b? If Badtrans.b is a new > virus, it almost sounds fishy that NAV *already* knew how to > discover it. Heuristics. -dq

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Spam from _sring@uslink.net?

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

The virus works by "answering" unread emails on the infected computer. Mr. Ring appears not to be keeping up with the list ;-) Interestingly, if an infected computer sends an email to another infected computer, an "endless" loop of emails starts, until one or the other computer's email server crashes from the overload. -----Original Message----- From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:55 AM To: Classic Computers Mailing List Subject: Re: Spam from _sring(a)uslink.net? On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > Looks like the Classiccmp archives may have been broached by some lame > spammer. Has anyone else gotten an audio file from S. Ring > <_sring(a)uslink.net> with an audio file attachment, bearing the subject of > an old CC message? THAT AIn'T NO AUDIO FILE!!!!! Take a closer look at the extension! AFTER the MP3, JPG, DOC whatever extension, it has ANOTHER extension of .SCR or .PIF. THAT is the BADTRANS virus. -- Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com

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Spam from _sring@uslink.net?

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Umm, maybe I'm falling for a joke, but the most recent thread here is about that very message containing the hot new W32.Badtrans.b virus... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Vintage Computer Festival [mailto:vcf@vintage.org] ! Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 12:29 PM ! To: Classic Computers Mailing List ! Subject: Spam from _sring(a)uslink.net? ! ! ! ! Looks like the Classiccmp archives may have been broached by some lame ! spammer. Has anyone else gotten an audio file from S. Ring ! <_sring(a)uslink.net> with an audio file attachment, bearing ! the subject of ! an old CC message? ! ! Sellam Ismail Vintage ! Computer Festival ! -------------------------------------------------------------- ! ---------------- ! International Man of Intrigue and Danger ! http://www.vintage.org ! ! * Old computing resources for business and academia at ! www.VintageTech.com * ! !

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S. Ring has badtrans virus

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Well, my Norton is set to automatically update every week. Also, as soon as I heard about it (badtrans) on Tuesday morning (when I came back >from being out since last wednesday) I updated the latest virus definitions, to the 11/24 version. Not sure if earlier defs knew about it... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Jeffrey S. Sharp [mailto:jss@subatomix.com] ! Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 12:08 PM ! To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' ! Subject: RE: S. Ring has badtrans virus ! ! ! On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, David Woyciesjes wrote: ! ! > Well, I'm running Norton Corporate Edition, with Outlook ! 2000, and it ! > scans my e-mail as it comes in, before I even read the ! message! Works ! > out nice :-) ! ! Was it prescient enough to detect Badtrans.b? If Badtrans.b is a new ! virus, it almost sounds fishy that NAV *already* knew how to ! discover it. ! ! -- ! Jeffrey S. Sharp ! jss(a)subatomix.com !

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S. Ring has badtrans virus

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! > Well, I'm running Norton Corporate Edition, with Outlook ! > 2000, and it scans my e-mail as it comes in, before I ! > even read the message! Works out nice :-) ! I am assuming NCE include Norton Anti-Virus... Actually it's the Corporate Edition of Norton Anti-Virus. ! ...On the Norton Utilities Systemworks AV is installed to ! automatically scan your email for virii... Yeah, I remember that option from that memory-hog version... ! ...But the way it does it is *very* questionable. The email ! is routed to one of their servers before being routed to you ! inbox... NCE doesn't work it that way, well at least in our setup. We install it as an unmanaged system (no central Norton server here.) Basically a standalone install. We could have a central server here to 'manage' the copies of NCE installed on the clients, maybe that's what you're referring to. Symantec hijacking your e-mail sounds wierd, and in-efficient. ! ...I only happened to find this out *after* everything was ! installed because I also use Zone Alarm... ! I then found out that the install had modified Outlook. ! Nowhere in the install was I told that this was happening!!! Yeah, the install has to modify Outlook somewhat. It gives the option to install a plug-in, to allow it to scan the messages as they come in. I much prefer it that way, since I leave Outlook open all day, and recieve at _least_ 200 messages a day. Yes, vigilance (and a different e-mail program) are my preferred method, but work here pretty much requires the use of Outlook. It's actually a nice program, if it weren't for the plentiful virus 'features'. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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S. Ring has badtrans virus

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Well, I'm running Norton Corporate Edition, with Outlook 2000, and it scans my e-mail as it comes in, before I even read the message! Works out nice :-) --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Jeff Hellige [mailto:jhellige@earthlink.net] ! Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 9:25 AM ! To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org ! Subject: Re: S. Ring has badtrans virus ! ! ! > It was sent to me 'personally', ie not as a classiccmp ! post. Since it ! >was an unsolicited attachment from an unacknowledged source, ! it filed it ! >in /dev/nul. ! ! I got it as well but followed the same logic you did. I also ! received the virus once over the weekend as well, but it wasn't from ! a list subscriber. I don't use Outlook on my Mac's and don't have ! autopreview turned on when I'm using it under NT. ! ! Jeff ! -- ! Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File ! http://www.cchaven.com ! http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757 !

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S. Ring has badtrans virus

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I am assuming NCE include Norton Anti-Virus.. On the Norton Utilities > Systemworks AV is installed to automatically scan your email for virii... > But the way it does it is *very* questionable.. The email is routed to one > of their servers before being routed to you inbox. > > I only happened to find this out *after* everything was installed because I > also use Zone Alarm. I then found out that the install had modified Outlook. > Nowhere in the install was I told that this was happening!!! Network Associates' Groupshield Exchange and Computer Associates' eTrust InoculateIT! Exchange Option scan the mail as it comes in to the server and what gets put in the inbox has been sanitized... except, apparantly, the BADTRANS virus. Fortunately, the client- side realtime scanner caught it... -dq

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Is it a Lisa or Mac XL?!

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: MTPro(a)aol.com [mailto:MTPro@aol.com] > question has not been adulterated with a ROM upgrade or > screen modification, > etc., it can run the Lisa OS - any Lisa 2 or Mac XL. All Mac > XLs are Lisa 2s, Well, the screen-mod isn't necessarily a show-stopper. Lisa OS really doesn't care, from my limited experience with just the kind of Mac XL you speak of at the end of this post. You can pull the glue off of a couple of pots in the monitor (clearly labeled at that, IIRC), and adjust the aspect ratio of the screen back to normal Lisa style. > Macintosh XL: The Macintosh XL is exactly the same as a Lisa > 2/10. Only the > sticker on the box, the operating system, and the instruction > manuals are > different. Instead of Lisa OS, the bundled OS is Macintosh > System software > and MacWorks XL, a Lisa program which allows 64K Macintosh > ROM emulation. If > you have MacWorks XL instead of Lisa OS disks, a 10MB > internal hard drive, no > Lisa Lite card, and a 1.8-A power supply, yours is probably a > MacintoshXL. It should be noted here that the Macintosh system software is arguably not the operating system in this case. (MacWorks is... If I understand correctly it's slightly more of an emulation than simply providing the toolbox ROM.) > them in December 1989 for $1095 had started life as a Lisa 2/5. Sun > Remarketing had installed the screen modification kit (giving > it square > pixels like a Mac instead of it's native rectangular ones), Again, I think "installed the screen modification kit" might be giving them too much credit, since it seemed with mine that they only did some pot tweaking. :) > Mac Plus 128k > ROMs to support the installed 800k drive and a Sun > Remarketing installed Now this is interesting. As I mentioned in a previous post, they had something in mind called an "XLerator," which seemed to be a daughterboard kind of setup that took the place of the entire 68k cpu, and replaced it with a conglomeration of Mac junk. :) (No offense to Mac people, but I wanted a Lisa, and this prevented Lisa OS from booting ;) I may at some point try to get that CPU board working (by which I mean, actually booting Lisa OS) again. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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S. Ring has badtrans virus

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

It drove me nuts as the work sys is W95 and outlookdistress. I wanted to summary delete it but Norton antivirus would pitch a fit if I even touched the mail. I have the outlook features turned off but the antivirus is too efficient. only solution was to isolate the machine just in case(pull net connection, drop modem) and purge mail. What a PITA! Wishing I used VMS at work or at least linux. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 10:52 AM Subject: Re: S. Ring has badtrans virus >> It was sent to me 'personally', ie not as a classiccmp post. Since it >>was an unsolicited attachment from an unacknowledged source, it filed it >>in /dev/nul. > > I got it as well but followed the same logic you did. I also >received the virus once over the weekend as well, but it wasn't from >a list subscriber. I don't use Outlook on my Mac's and don't have >autopreview turned on when I'm using it under NT. > > Jeff >-- > Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File > http://www.cchaven.com > http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757

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opensource cp/m?

by dlinder＠uiuc.edu

this might be interesting for the cp/m people out there, though they probably already know all about it: http://slashdot.org/articles/01/11/27/1931237.shtml http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23010.html http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=01/11/23/171225 -- Dan Linder / dlinder @ uiuc.edu Graduate Student, College of Engineering, Dept. of Computer Science - Dept. of Computer Science Teaching Assistant - DRES Computer Accessibility Researcher

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Apple ][ joystick?

by vcf＠vintage.org

Who was the fellow looking for an Apple ][ joystick? I have one for you. E-mail me privately. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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one shoe down ...

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Well, I just sent in my registration for the free Basic membership... Haven't _needed_ to be a member before, but things may get better this year.. :-) --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Brian Wheeler [mailto:bdwheele@indiana.edu] ! Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 3:38 PM ! To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org ! Subject: Re: one shoe down ... ! ! ! On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 14:03, Chuck McManis wrote: ! > Well the "new" Encompass site is updated and guess what, no ! "free DECUS" ! > memberships anymore, now its $79.99 "early bird special" ! and $99.99 regular ! > membership. No doubt when they become HP it will be even ! more irrelevant to ! > the cause of preserving old DEC gear. I sure hope they ! offer lifetime VAX ! > licenses at some point. ! > ! > --Chuck ! ! ! Are you sure? Looking at the "i want to re-enlist form" at ! https://safe2.sba.com/encompass/MemberForm.cfm ! ! It only looks like money is required if you're going to become a ! sustaining member... ! ! Of course there is a monster note on the page before: ! "Join or Renew Today - BASIC and SUSTAINING membership will only be ! available until December 31, 2001!" ! ! Brian !

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*HELP* - How do I temporarily unsubscribe?

by mranalog＠home.com

Shaun Stephenson <marino13(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi all > Quickie which I need a quick reply to - > How do I tempoarily suspend recieving posts from the group? I'm on > holiday for 2 weeks very soon (1.5 days!) and don't fancy a few thousand > posts in my mail when I return. When you leave on vacation set your subscribtion to the DIGEST list. You will receive only one email every 20 or so hours and that way you don't miss anything. I ran into a little trouble myself. It appears that the name of the list is just "classiccmp" and not "classiccmp-list" as the help message suggests. I'm always on the digest list. The name of the digest list is "classiccmp-digest". So I assume to change to digest you need to send a message to majordomo(a)classiccmp.org and in the body say: unsubscribe classiccmp subscribe classiccmp-digest end Of course then you have to send back the authorization key before you are actually on the digest. Regards, --Doug ========================================= Doug Coward @ home in Poulsbo, WA Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center http://www.best.com/~dcoward/analog =========================================

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one shoe down ...

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>> One of the 3rd party TCP/IP apps was reputed to do this - >> possibly Multinet. It's easy enough to check since >> there is a logical you can set which causes all >> licence requests to be displayed on the operator >> console. > >Which logical? LMF$DISPLAY_OPCOM_MESSAGE It needs to be /EXEC/SYSTEM, otherwise any herbert could overflow your LA36 :-) It was documented by mistake and then had to be explicitly documented as "don't do this" because lots of products go and check for any of the umpteen licences that *might* let them run. It's only a few (non-DEC) products that actually check for non-existant licences and require that the check fail. Antonio

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