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Hardest to Find Classic Computers (Was: RE: Way OT: Just say no to squirrels & Pascal question)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Ok, IMSAI Imp48... supposedly only 300 sold. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Quebbeman <dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com> To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Friday, December 14, 2001 1:07 PM Subject: Hardest to Find Classic Computers (Was: RE: Way OT: Just say no to squirrels & Pascal question) >> When OT threads die and then get resurrected under even >> wilder topics, its just not worth it. > >Ok, we've had threads similar to this one before, but >maybe not quite... > >What are the hardest to find Classic Computers? What should not >be counted: > > Systems that never went beyond prototype > Systems that they made only one of > Systems that were custom-designed for a single > customer and were only in limited production > Systems that were not "general purpose" computers > >Also not intended as the thrust of the topic: > > Systems you most of all want > >Rather, the systems I'me talking about would have been >commercially produced, were general-purpose systems, >made in quantity of say at least a baker's dozen. > >These systems might be generally available, and might >go for a price you can afford, but you just can't *find* >them where you're at. > >Around here for me, it would be PDP-8's and Lisa's. > >??? > >-dq

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Googles of delights

by jfoust＠threedee.com

I've had a great time perusing the new old Usenet posts on Google.com. It took me a while to find the various logins I'd used back in '83 or so, getting on news any way I could. I've waited a long time for other people's backup archives to restore copies of these files to my hands. Thankfully, I didn't say anything too embarrassing. I think that aspect will have repercussions. What's the online world going to be like when your off-hand comments will be around forever? Search for someone's posts, click on the link of their name, and presto, you can see everything they've posted, including that plea for companionship to net.singles back in 1983. One fun aspect has been seeing who jumped into threads back then - before they were famous for other reasons. For example, I hadn't remembered that Larry Wall hung out on comp.sys.amiga for a while in the early days. I have also done what someone else here predicted: look for people who had old machines to dispose, and ask them what happened to them. I focused on the Terak, for my museum at www.threedee.com/jcm . I also used the archive to find people who worked at Terak back when. I found several names I hadn't known before. Given a unique name and a history of working in the computer business, it seemed I could find current e-mail addresses for about half of the names I searched. I fired off notes to find out if they'd kept any memorabilia or disks. I hope someone builds a historical directory of links to historically relevant posts. I might take on the task myself. - John

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1GHz PDP-11 (Re: Prints for an 11/70)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 13, Boatman on the River of Suck wrote: > That's why I was thinking of addressing multiple busses. Not only that, I > want to maintain compatibility with existing devices. I don't recall who at the moment...but there's some company somewhere who makes a PCI-Qbus bridge, and maybe a Unibus one as well. The idea is to use a pdp11 emulator on a crappy PeeCee and be able to connect your DEC peripherals to it. I would love to see NetBSD/alpha drivers for that board...I'd put an RL02 (or maybe an RK07!) on one my Alphas! 8-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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Hardest to Find Classic Computers (Was: RE: Way OT: Just say

by csmith＠amdocs.com

Right. I know they exist... just can't find them. :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); ' > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Dittman [mailto:dittman@dittman.net] > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 1:37 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Hardest to Find Classic Computers (Was: RE: Way OT: Just > say > > > > Do peripherals count too? If so, try finding a 9-track > drive that doesn't > > take up as much room as your fridge. Any EDSI hardware and > controllers have > > been very elusive to me as well. > > Actually, there are some table-top 9-track drives. There is > a limit on how > small a 9-track drive can be since you have to accommodate > two large reels. > > In fact, next week I'm picking up a table-top 9-track SCSI > drive for $75.

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Way OT: Just say no to squirrels & Pascal question

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Somebody did. Butter can't be deep fried. That's what I thought about ice cream... but El Torito's (sp?) used to sell Deep Fried Ice Cream, it was basically chocolate chip ice cream, rolled in what seemed to be corn flakes crumbs, and deep fried. It has to be done fast, so the breading fries, but the ice cream doesn't get too melty. I would think butter (in particular a POUND of butter) that was wrapped in bacon AND breaded, could probably hold out long enough for the breading to fry. If the butter was started as very cold, or even slightly frozen, it could probably stay in long enough for the bacon to get pretty well cooked. However, the whole thing sounds pretty sick to me, so I am not apt to try it. -c

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if you hadn't already known this about the PDP-8

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Doc <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> > OK. I guess I gotta come clean now. I'm actually a West Texas >roughneck, incognito. When I first started seeing ads for "Pentium", I I saw pentium and thought... oh no, the fifth one from in-smell. Heck I got my first Pent (p166mmx) only 2 years ago! I'd rather not but hey the world crashes by them. Allison

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%20Hallelujah!

by Socialmisfit10＠aol.com

ummm my name is Meridith Zammetti and i noticed that your last name was Zammetti so i thought i would say HI and hope that u would say HI back...maybe........just maybe.......hehe...

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MITS 2SIO serial chip?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Does anyone know what chip was used for the MITS serial boards? I thought > that it was the 6850, but I could be wrong. Weren't a lot of people using the 8251 back in those days? I had to play some tricks in getting an interrupt-driver written for the 8251... this was for the redoubtable Data General One, a sort cool, sorta nasty laptop... -dq

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OT: RE: Cats around computers

by cmurillo＠emtelsa.multi.net.co

At 02:10 PM 12/13/01 -0700, Robert Feldman wrote: >Do you (or someone you know) have a pet guinea pig? They were originally >domesticated and raised as food, in Peru. I must say a good barbequed cuy >(which is what they are called there) is quite tasty, though not much meat >on them. Aztecs bred a special dog race, called "izcuintle", for culinary purposes. They're pretty ugly as they are hairless. But they're supposed to taste like pork. carlos. -------------------------------------------------------------- Carlos E. Murillo-Sanchez carlos_murillo(a)nospammers.ieee.org

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MITS 2SIO serial chip?

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

If it's the SIO-(A or B) then it's one com2502 or any of the related uarts. If its the 2-SIO then a pair of 6850s (better board too). Allison -----Original Message----- From: Cini, Richard <RCini(a)congressfinancial.com> To: 'ClassCompList' <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:09 AM Subject: MITS 2SIO serial chip? >Does anyone know what chip was used for the MITS serial boards? I thought >that it was the 6850, but I could be wrong. > >Rich > > >

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if you hadn't already known this about the PDP-8

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Bryan Pope [mailto:bpope@wordstock.com] > That would be the "new" geek who believes the first computer > was a Pentium. > I was setting up my C64 next to my PC one day and a "geek" > mad the comment > "Oh you can hookup the 64 to the PCs video switchbox"... Is > it that hard to > belive that a computer could possibly output something > *other* then VGA > for its vidoe?!? Grrrrrr.... Ha! Actually, along those lines, I have an SGI with a Galileo board, which I've considered plugging my Atari 600XL/Commodore 128/Amiga/Atari ST/Apple IIGS, etc, into. It would be a great computing experience on a 21" monitor. :) The problem is that the SGI is a bit too sensitive for most composite video devices up to and including the Nintendo-64. They "flicker," I assume because of a slightly slow refresh rate. I've thought about writing some software that "simulates" the slower fade-out of a television CRT in a quick, dirty manner -- by simply dropping alternate frames, or the like. Anyway, back on the subject, don't get me started on idiots who don't know a serial-port from a hole in their head, and who couldn't tell an operating system from a microsoft product. ;) (To whit: I worked at one point with a guy who was convinced that every operating system in the world was derived in some manner from MS-DOS. Yes, that includes the Macintosh operating system too. "CP/M? What's that? Unix is based on MS-DOS, right?" The guy was a "programmer.") Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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if you hadn't already known this about the PDP-8

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] > Yeah... Most distros don't even have a headless install > option, and not > all PCs will even complete a POST without a video card. But more > relevant is the fact that hardly anybody I know, even the geeks, knows > what a null-modem cable is for, let alone own a serial terminal. You must not hang around with very high-quality geeks. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Cats around computers

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > I hope we don't drift into discussing that strangest > > beef organ meat of all... > > I've been trying hard to refrain. But, now that *you* mention it, > > YUM! YUM! YUM! > > Doc, who grew up working the spring branding & cutting on > his uncles' ranches.... Also popular with lonely rancher's wives, I hear... ;)

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Way OT: Just say no to squirrels & Pascal question

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> While we're on the subject, the best tacos I ever had were > at the dog track in Juarez, Mexico. Ya gotta wonder.... Did they charge extra for "winners"? ;)

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Cats around computers

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 13, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > Rodents *are* chewy... have you never had squirrel? NO. And I hope I NEVER get that hungry. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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MITS 2SIO serial chip?

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Does anyone know what chip was used for the MITS serial boards? I thought that it was the 6850, but I could be wrong. Rich

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Burroughs (was: Need manual for Everex digital cassette drive)

by mhstein＠usa.net

Congratulations! Which model? Have a few bits myself, including a digital cassette drive (&docs) and a few tapes; need any? mike -----------------Original Message----------------- From: Boatman on the River of Suck <vance(a)ikickass.org> I have a complete (almost working) Burroughs computer. Peace... Sridhar

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if you hadn't already known this about the PDP-8

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Franchuk [mailto:bfranchuk@jetnet.ab.ca] > Remember Linux too needs lots of memory. With >16 meg on a video card > your OS needs about 16x that. It is the video display that is the > killer. Actually, Linux will scrape by on 2 megs. (Last I checked, admittedly with a 2.1 kernel -- it even ran the MGR windowing system) Windows won't. :) Currently, I don't think that qualifies as "lots of memory," though I'd prefer it took less. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Way OT: Just say no to squirrels & Pascal question

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> You ought to see what the Abs in OZ eat out in the field - not real pretty > but then as the Rally's commercials say "you gotta eat" Honey beetles, sweet with a slight tang... -dq

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if you hadn't already known this about the PDP-8

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > I never understand this- why not kick it up to 1027x768 and use the > > Windows Appearance controls to make the menus and screen > fonts larger? > > My vga monitors have a tendency to die, thus a old VGA is easy to come > by and not have to FUCK with windows 'SAFE' mode. Understood, I get by on used VGA monitors, too... > > That way graphics look nice and text is still readable and things > > you have to click on (buttons can be made bigger too) are bigger > > targets... > > I want smaller menus and buttons. I like a window filled with what ever > I am reading, not clutter on the screen. It makes no sense to me to switch > to a higher res and then defeat it by having bigger fonts. When I was running > Linux I ran at 800x600 but only so I could run bigger fonts to give > me a 80x25 xterm window. Also most on the games I play only run at 640x480 due to > speed ( P-150 here) or screen limitations. I mistakenly ASSumed you went with 640x480 because everything is bigger and easier to see... the guys around here who run 1024x768 instead of the 1280x1024 they *could* run do it for that reason... -dq

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Cats around computers

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 13, Carlos Murillo wrote: > > I will never understand the "I am cool because I eat, and pretend to > >like, things that gross most people out" mentality. > > Well, it usually turns out that "most people" has a very local character > to it. Oh yes, I agree 100% that it's all just a matter of what we're culturally used to...but that knowlege will not stop the huge tide of spewing vomit that will ensue if someone puts brains in front of my face. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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What's with this Lisa?

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

> I understand the differences but have never been able to make > a correlation between the model numbers and the various versions of > the machines. Ah, OK. > It has the Apple logo and 'Apple Computer Inc.' running from > the bottom of the board towards the top, just about at the center of > the connector. I'll have to take a look at the other memory boards > later. Time for some googling I think! -- Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd e: adrian.graham(a)corporatemicrosystems.com w: www.corporatemicrosystems.com w2: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk (Online Computer Museum)

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This list is on the skids again . . .

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Bryan Pope <bpope(a)wordstock.com> > But what looked good was the deep-fried wild turkey. Good luck, those things are tough as hell. Gimme a Butterball any day. > P.S. I wonder what kind of wine goes good with squirrel? A couple of bottles > before it is set down in front of you??! Any of the following would be pleasing to the squirrel-eaters I've known: Mad Dog Thunderbird Boone's Farm Red Mountain Annie Green Springs Recommended dosage: 32 oz. per guest, on an empty stomach . . . but hide all the guns, first . . . Glen 0/0

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PDT-11?? can anyone tell me what this is?

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

(Sorry for the time-shifted response... I was away at vacation) >I've just come across a PDT-11 (model: PDT-11150 CJ) > >It has 2 8" floppy drives, (which someone has labelled sy0: & dk0:) > >on the back there are 6 db25's labeled console,printer,modem, term 1, >term 2 , term 3 > >What is this machine?? Can I make it run as a PDP11.. >It's nice 'n' small & looks like it would be quieter than >my 11/44. This is basically a pdp-11, based on the 11/2 chipset. Unlike most other -11s, though, it is configured such that there is 60kb available to the user (30k-words) and the IO page is only 4kb instead of 8kb The roms know about RT-11 queue elements and the RT device driver (PD.SYS) calls entry points in the rom to do the actual data transfers. You could use it in place of your 11/44, if you want to waaaiiiiit for stuff to get done... not to mention the fact that there really isn't much space on two RX01 floppies... Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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OT time

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Not me, I gave up on religion and religious events some time ago, and have > given considerable thought to frank Costanza's "Festivus" as a new December > holiday. Maybe you can help me find a really nice aluminum pole before Festivus is over this year? Festivus! Festivus for the Rest of Us! ;)

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Way OT: Just say no to squirrels & Pascal question

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Heh...I wasn't going to mention this, but now I have no choice. ;) > > I used to say that I could sum up the French culture in two sentences: > "This is the most repulsive thing I've ever seen. I think I'll put it > in my mouth!" I am *so* glad I wasn't drinking coffee whan I read that! ROFL!

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OT: RE: Cats around computers

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Carlos Murillo wrote: > > Aztecs bred a special dog race, called "izcuintle", for > > culinary purposes. They're pretty ugly as they are > > hairless. But they're supposed to taste like pork. > > They also ate people too, that tastes like pork too. "Long Pork" ;)

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OT: RE: Cats around computers

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> At 02:10 PM 12/13/01 -0700, Robert Feldman wrote: > >Do you (or someone you know) have a pet guinea pig? They were originally > >domesticated and raised as food, in Peru. I must say a good barbequed cuy > >(which is what they are called there) is quite tasty, though not much meat > >on them. > > Aztecs bred a special dog race, called "izcuintle", for > culinary purposes. They're pretty ugly as they are > hairless. But they're supposed to taste like pork. Don't know the breeds, but you can add the Koreans, Chinese, and Philipinos to the dig-comsumer list... Monkey is popular in the latter two as well... -dq

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What's with this Lisa?

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

> >Model: A6S0300 > >Memory Option: A6S0304 > >SN: A3322146 > >Manufactured: 3322 > > Mine is the same model# with a date code of 3248. You said > you bought the machine as a plain '2' and upgraded it to a 2/5? Yep. The vanilla 2 was a 512kb machine with the 400K floppy, which is why it was pretty useless, the 2/5 has the profile but still half a meg so it won't run some of the 7/7 apps so I got the extra ET card from ebay. Took me nearly a year to get a complete spares kit :) The 2/10 was completely different...... I'm not entirely sure whether the extra IO board I got is from a Lisa 1 since it doesn't have capacity for the battery pack. There's pix on my museum site if anyone wants to check for me! > I've not checked for the 'proto' marking mentioned on one of > the connectors, but I know it's on the front panel. I've got four > memory cards here, one of which still had it's price sticker of > $1495.00 marked down to $995. One of the ones not installed also > ahas the ET marking. Is there an Apple brand on there as well? I'm assuming ET might be the manufacturer..... cheers -- Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd e: adrian.graham(a)corporatemicrosystems.com w: www.corporatemicrosystems.com w2: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk (Online Computer Museum)

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Need manual for Everex digital cassette drive

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > > Maybe, but doubtful. This was more of a tape backup device. It uses > > > DIGITAL cassettes. If you've never seen one, they have a square notch > > > just off the center of the top of the cassette, and they have two slide > > > tabs to turn write-protection on/off. Otherwise, it looks just like a > > > regular analog cassette tape. > > > > Yeah, I've got a drive from an old Burroughs teller machine... > > > > Had a bunch of Burroughs stuff I dumped about five years > > ago, though I still have a direct-wire 1200 baud modem... > > I have a complete (almost working) Burroughs computer. For a long time, I kept a cage that contained a card rack and a fixed-head disk drive. It would power up, and make characteristic "booting" sounds. I just wasn't interested in computers much during that late 80s/early 90s when everything started to go Microsoft... -dq

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Cats around computers

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On December 13, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > > BTW, now that you're _down south_, has anyone turned > > > > you onto the burgers at Crystal's ? > > > > > > I don't believe I've had them yet, no...are they good? > > > > They're sometimes known as "southern sliders"... when you > > see them, you'll know why... > > I will try some. :-) > > > And re: squirrels, lemme tell ya, I wouldn't be alive > > if they *weren't* food... there were times when squirrel > > wasn't the usual delicacy, but the only damned thing my > > ancestors could find to eat. > > Oh yes, my ancestors too...but as long as it was THEM and not ME! ;) Ok, Ok, I've never been accused of being civilized... ;)

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What's with this Lisa?

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

Hi all, > >I always wondered why the 2 existed in the first place, > since without a hard > >drive and only .5mb of memory it was useless for anything other than > >MacWorks. > > Once you take a look at your's, since you said it started > life as a '2' and you upgraded it to a 2/5, would you mind sending > me the model/serial/date numbers off of it? Here's the scoop: Model: A6S0300 Memory Option: A6S0304 SN: A3322146 Manufactured: 3322 Unfortunately there's no prototype info, but both of my memory modules are dated 1982 and one of them has the 'fabled' ET logo....... cheers -- Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd e: adrian.graham(a)corporatemicrosystems.com w: www.corporatemicrosystems.com w2: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk (Online Computer Museum)

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USENET from 1981 to present on google

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

> My first post seems to be from 1996/10/08. I am, quite simply, not > worthy. Me too. </aol>. My first post was an ultrix problem on 6th Oct '95; not bad I suppose, only 4 years after TBL's first announcement of that there web. Mmmm text only sigs :) -- Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd e: adrian.graham(a)corporatemicrosystems.com w: www.corporatemicrosystems.com w2: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk (Online Computer Museum)

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Cats around computers

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 14, Boatman on the River of Suck wrote: > > Oh yes, I agree 100% that it's all just a matter of what we're > > culturally used to...but that knowlege will not stop the huge tide of > > spewing vomit that will ensue if someone puts brains in front of my > > face. > > Still doesn't stop you from waving your pit beef sandwich in mine. 8-) Deep down, you like beef, Sridhar. You're just in denial. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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Pinouts for Vaxstation 3100 monochrome cable?

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Hi, all. I have a vaxstation 3100 m38 running NetBSD, and I'd like to be able to use the local monochrome display. I've removed the SPX color adapter, and made up a cable according to the pinouts on Kee's VS3100 page. His pinouts are composite on pin 9 and ground on 3 for a BC23K-03 cable. However, with the cobbled cable attached, I don't get any output. Question 1: Did I miss a jumper on the mainboard? Question 2: I assumed that the pins were numbered in the same order as an AUI ethernet connector. Looking at the female, I have 1-8 right-to-left, and 9-15 R-t-L. Is this correct? Question 3: I'm using an IBM Power17 display. Multisync, separate-sync, composite-sync and sync-on-green capable, I would think it would work with mono input on the green. It does work fine with the SPX adapter. Question 4: I also have a Digital VR160 display, but everything I've read implies that it won't do monochrome. Is that true? Has anybody been successful with a monochrome display on this box? Any help would be most welcome. Doc

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Need manual for Everex digital cassette drive

by mhstein＠usa.net

Sounds like the same tapes as the Burroughs cassettes I've used and still have a few of. If so, case construction and tape characteristics aside, they also have BOT/EOT holes 17.7 inches >from the leader.. mike --------------------Original Message--------------- Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 20:42:06 +0000 (GMT) From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) Subject: Re: Need manual for Everex digital cassette drive > > just off the center of the top of the cassette, and they have > > two slide > > tabs to turn write-protection on/off. Otherwise, it looks just like a > > regular analog cassette tape. > > No problem, just file a notch in your "analog" cassette. ;) Is your data really worth that _little_ that it's not worth buying the right tape? > I'm not sure that would work, but given the improved resolution, etc, in > cassette tapes during the last several years, it just may. I am pretty sure the coercivity of the tape in the 'digital' cassettes is considerably high that that of the tape in normal audio cassettes... - -tony

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OT: RE: Cats around computers

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 12, Ben Franchuk wrote: > > Aztecs bred a special dog race, called "izcuintle", for > > culinary purposes. They're pretty ugly as they are > > hairless. But they're supposed to taste like pork. > > They also ate people too, that tastes like pork too. Isn't everything supposed to taste like chicken? My favorite exchange from Stargate SG-1, as Daniel sits down to some field rations: Daniel: <munch munch munch> "This tastes like chicken." Maj. Carter: "What's wrong with that?" Daniel: "It's macaroni and cheese." -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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Wierd Things you've found inside... (was Smoking around computers))

by zmerch＠30below.com

Rumor has it that Douglas Quebbeman may have mentioned these words: > > > I'll bet you're presbyotic (far-sighted) > > > > Nit pick time. I think you mean presbyopic. presbyotic would be > > someone who can only hear things far away. Hmmm... from my High School biology & health classes, I seem to recall that myopia is nearsightedness, *hyperopia* was farsightedness, and I thought that presbyopia was either someone who can see near & far but not in between, or someone that could not see near or far, but what was in between was in focus... but that was a long time ago... and the health field changes faster than the computer field... (I was amazed seeing back 80-90 years ago that over 50% of the folks that died in my town were diagnosed with "consumption"... I wonder what consumed them? Maybe squirrels??? ;-) > > > Plus, isn't the fiddle on their stomach? Should I ask the spider > > > to "present, front and center" so i can check? > > > > Definitely on the back, hence the common name fiddleback spider. Makes me *very* happy to be in Northern Michigan - other than a rumor every 10 years or so of a rattlesnake being seen, hardly anything poisonous other than wasps & bumblebees is able to survive up here... :-) Oh, and my grandma was born/raised in the foothills of Kentucky -- if it didn't crawl away fast enough, it was dinner. I've eaten squirrel that my brother & I shot (small red squirrels) - it's *very* tasty, but you'd best have a *lot* of them! I've also had muskrat, beaver, raccoon, squid, deer (venison - my dad just shot one this morning!! Yum!), bear, moose, buffalo, elk, wild boar.... usw. And yes, cow's tongue is very good also, when prepared correctly, but I never did acquire a taste for the pickled pork hocks... I don't "pretend" what I like, because I like most everything. Yes, it's offtopic, but I just thought I'd include that for those here who are squeamish... ;^> "Merch" -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an *older* .sig. (circa 1997!) Why does Hershey's put nutritional information on their candy bar wrappers when there's no nutritional value within?

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Cats around computers

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 13, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > My Zoology prof claimed to have eaten just about > eberything on the planet that people make a regular > habit of eating... grubs were the first thing he > mentioned. Fear. I will never understand the "I am cool because I eat, and pretend to like, things that gross most people out" mentality. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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Cats around computers

by ken＠seefried.com

>From: Chad Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net> >I had a cat lick pictures once. They'll eat/chew on the darndest things >if you let them. ... >My parents still have one cat that will eat/chew ribbon >>David Woyciesjes wrote: >> Well, my 3 1/2 year old cat, Isabelle, like to like tape and pictures. >> Never figured that one out yet... I think it might be texture. I've got a cat that compulsively licks plastic items, especially grocery bags. Obviously no taste, but anything plasticy, she licks. I just thought she was a tard-cat. Ken

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 13, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > BTW, now that you're _down south_, has anyone turned > > > you onto the burgers at Crystal's ? > > > > I don't believe I've had them yet, no...are they good? > > They're sometimes known as "southern sliders"... when you > see them, you'll know why... I will try some. :-) > And re: squirrels, lemme tell ya, I wouldn't be alive > if they *weren't* food... there were times when squirrel > wasn't the usual delicacy, but the only damned thing my > ancestors could find to eat. Oh yes, my ancestors too...but as long as it was THEM and not ME! ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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Emerald Systems digital cassette drive

by vcf＠vintage.org

Ok, now I found an Emerald Systems digital cassette drive. This is an internal drive and has its own interface card. However, I don't have a driver disk or manual for this one either. Does anyone have the drivers or a manual? Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Wierd Things you've found inside... (was Smoking around compu ters)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Yeah, just what we would need to find..... a Sydney Funnel Web spider. > I don't even want to meet a Brown Recluse. All spiders have toxins in their venom; not all toxins are dangerous to humans. Apparently most humans *are* susecptible to the brown recluse, but in varying degrees. I've seen the brown recluse in my home, among several other species. Can't always tell which is which but I can tell that some are different from others. One species living in and around my home grows very large. One night, I'd come home from a drunk, and passed out with the lights on; sleeping on a mattress on the floor. I awoke from the pain of a bite, looked at my arm and saw a small amount of blood. Just at the edge of the bed, I saw a *big* spider scurry off. In my stupor, I deciced to go back to sleep; worst case, I simply wouldn't wake up. But the next day comes, bidden or not. Now, I used to have these embarrasing warts on my elbows and underside of my forearms. A couple of days later, while showering, I noticed these warts were swollen up. Strange; but I didn't give it any more thought. A week later, I looked again, and the warts were gone. Somewhere in my basement lives a species of spider that contains a miracle wart cure in its venom. If only I could determine which one, I'd be rich! I do have lots of webs in some of the classic EQ I have down in the basement (notably the SOL). But I've found that letting the ants and spiders have their way keeps the roach population in control. Much better than "Better living through Chemistry". -dq

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TRS-80 Model 6000

by univac2＠earthlink.net

I am very happy today - I'm finally getting a TRS-80 Model 6000! Anyway I was wondering if anyone has any software for it (it runs Xenix, which it has), or the hardware manual, as I am only getting the Xenix manuals. And if anyone has one of those neat little TRS-80 DT-1 terminals for it, I'd love that.

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Couple of items available . . .

by cfandt＠netsync.net

I've got four Iomega Bournoulli Boxes, model A210H, if anybody wants them. I can maybe think of a few bits to swap for them but that doesn't matter. I just need the room (as several list members who've visited us can attest) and want them to go to a new home. I can ship but just reimburse me for the shipping cost and maybe purchase of a proper shipping carton or two as needed. Seem to weigh 15 to 20 lbs. each. Zip code 14701. Also, any interest in several IBM 3287 printers? Dot matrix 132 column page printers which use SNA network interface. Thanks, Chris -- -- NNNN Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net Member of Antique Wireless Association URL: http://www.antiquewireless.org/

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Cats around computers

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

I will pass, thanks. ;) On December 13, Merle K. Peirce wrote: > I suppose that means you wouldn't want to borrow my Rat Archduke recipe? > > On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Dave McGuire wrote: > > > On December 13, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > Rodents *are* chewy... have you never had squirrel? > > > > NO. And I hope I NEVER get that hungry. > > > > -Dave > > > > -- > > Dave McGuire > > St. Petersburg, FL > > > > M. K. Peirce > > Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc. > Shady Lea, Rhode Island > > "Casta est quam nemo rogavit." > > - Ovid > > -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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USENET from 1981 to present on google

by Huw.Davies＠kerberos.davies.net.au

At 07:34 AM 13/12/2001 -0500, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: >*REplies* to my first posts are there, but not the posts themselves... The first post I recall making in 1987 is there. This was just after Australia got a reliable 19.2K modem link to the US but before TCP/IP had taken hold. From the address I used (huw(a)latcs1.oz) we were still using SUN-II as the network protocol. Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)kerberos.davies.net.au | "If God had wanted soccer played in the | air, the sky would be painted green"

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if you hadn't already known this about the PDP-8

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> This is hillarious! Wasn't the notion of a stack arond already > before 1965? Sometimes, even when stacks were provided in hardware, they operated slower than a "simulation" of a stack using an array and an index. While the hardware might provide for a complex stack frame for the data needed by local activations, you could avoid all the overhead by rolling your own. Regards, -dq

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Tandy 3.5" floppy and NEC 8201A

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

I read on a website that the Tandy 3.5" floppy intended for the M100/200 series can be connected and driven by an NEC 8201A. This seems feasable and I find my 8201A much more portable than the M200 that I also have. However, the guy never responded to my E-mail. What would I need to set this up? I do have the original RS-232 cable. What I don't have are any kind of DOS disks. -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- Any clod can have the facts, but having an opinion is an art. -- C. McCabe -

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if you hadn't already known this about the PDP-8

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 13, Doc wrote: > > A firewall with a video card? Gotta love them PCs. ;) > > Yeah... Most distros don't even have a headless install option, and not > all PCs will even complete a POST without a video card. But more > relevant is the fact that hardly anybody I know, even the geeks, knows > what a null-modem cable is for, let alone own a serial terminal. Fear. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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