- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by Golemancd＠aol.com

thanks for the info i am going to see if i can find some on ebay will try the hole covering thing also i have a couple of computers that use 720k tandy and a toshiba laptop thanks again Joee

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 24, Ernest wrote: > I would wish that at least SOME linux snobs would grow up, and stop acting > like conceited jackasses. I think this is less of a pro-Linux issue and more of a use-the-right-tool-for-the-job issue, which sure as hell ain't Windows if you want to put stuff on the web. But, that said, you did a great job on your site, and I like it a lot. Your choice of layout is interesting and easy to use, and I especially like the method of flipping through the photos. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 24, Pat Finnegan wrote: > And I must say I love the use of IIS and Javascript... oh wait did I say > love? No, thats not the word... oh yes. I frown upon it. > > I would wish that at least SOME geeks would avoid using sh*t software. > Even Apache on NT is better... Personally I don't find anything wrong with Javascript; at least it's not a crappy microsoftism. But certainly nobody with even half a clue should be running IIS. I still think it's a really nice website though. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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CD32 and CD-TV (was Re: Hardest to Find Classic Computers)

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Matt London [mailto:classiccmp@knm.yi.org] > Sent: 21 December 2001 20:09 > To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' > Subject: RE: CD32 and CD-TV (was Re: Hardest to Find Classic > Computers) > > > Speaking of the A570, has anyone got a spare PSU for one? > > I've got an A570 here - the A570/A500/A500+/A600/A1200 PSU's are > interchangable. I wondered about that, but various postings I found indicated the A570 PSU was switchless and also 'pulsed' the power lines to help booting off the CD-ROM.....it didn't mention pinouts so I didn't want to try it! > I'm after one ATM :&) > > I might finally give up and just get a normal CD player, and > use my A570 > for any CDTV games I get. Yeah, but just look at the *Styling* :) You KNOW you want one...... -- Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd e: adrian.graham(a)corporatemicrosystems.com w: www.corporatemicrosystems.com w2: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk (Online Computer Museum)

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 24, Ernest wrote: > You guys crack me up -complaining and lecturing about the evils of IIS. Just > take a > look at the page for crying out loud, and forget about whether or not it's > running on > Linux or Windows. I couldn't care less about your opinions on IIS or Apache. > I'll > move it to a linux server as soon as I can. I'm a newb at webpage stuff, so > give me > fucking break. Don't take it so personally, man... -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Fw: Looking for new home: VAX6620 + VAX6530 cluster

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

This looked too good to not pass it along! Please reply to original poster-- I just saw it on c.o.v and am not involved. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Franklin" <neil(a)franklin.ch.remove> Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers,comp.os.vms Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 11:32 AM Subject: Looking for new home: VAX6620 + VAX6530 cluster > Crossposted alt.folklore.computers and comp.os.vms, I only monitor > alt.folklore.computers, so leave that one in. Feel free to post it to > other interested groups or mailing lists. > > > Just got a mail from an colleague, that his employers 2 machine > VAX cluster that is about to be scrapped. > > AFAIK they are to be given away for free, the new owner arranges > and payes for transport (read: truck). > > Place to fetch them from is network building of University Hospital > of University Zurich, Switzerland. > > > System data, as mailed from him: > > 1 VAX 6620 W77xH155xD80cm > 1 VAX 6530 W77xH155xD80cm > 1 HSC50 W54xH107xD80cm > 1 StorageWorks W76xH170xD88cm > containing: 1 TSZ07 tape unit > 2 HSJ40 controllers > 29 4GByte SCSI disks > 13 power supply modules > 1 Infoserver 100 > 1 MA-50 tape controller W48xH13xD55cm > with 2 Exabyte tape units > > There is also an VT320 to go, but I am having that. > > > This stuff must be gone before 2002.02.11, and he must have an firm > commitment before mid 2002.01 (else he will be ordering removal service). > > > -- > Neil Franklin, neil(a)franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/ > Hacker, Unix Guru, El Eng HTL/BSc, Sysadmin, Archer, Roleplayer > - Intellectual Property is Intellectual Robbery

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720k floppy thanks

by Golemancd＠aol.com

i tryed the thing where u cover the extra hole on a 1.44 oddly enough it actually works. pretty cool . so i am using a 1.44 in my 720k drive on my tanky 1000 hx thanks joe

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by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 12/24/01 9:16:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, pat(a)purdueriots.com writes: > IIRC, you could actaully download software from a Televideo Z80 CP/M > computer onto those terminals and it would execute on the terminal (like a > diskless box). However I could be thinking of a different Televideo > terminal. My dad (an optometerist) had a few of those with the Televideo > system for a database system, and when the computer went down, the > terminals got sold off to another business still using the same system. :( > > I'd love to get my hands on one of those old beasts. If I'm really lucky > I still have the manual for those terminals... though after my parents > moved I'm not too hopeful. > > That one is the Televideo 800 IIRC. It looks identical to the 950 but with different electronics. Downloaded the operating system from a multiuser box. I had several of them. I think I still have one of the Televideo 800 terminals in my storage locker. Paxton Astoria, OR

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HP 1000E - It's a blinkin

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

Bill, Toggled in the program that you sent me and it actually works. Well... It didn't work the first few times because of operator error but, it works now :-) I AM ABSOLUTELY THRILLED!!! Thanks, SteveRob > > >If you would like, I can send you a real short program > > >that you can key infrom the console that makes the > > >lights blink... > > > > This would be great! > >I'll sent it directly to you... _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Multitech/Acer Micro-Professor info WTD

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > Sent: 22 December 2001 23:28 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Multitech/Acer Micro-Professor info WTD > > > I've managed to acquire a few Multitech Micro-Professor > printers and I'd > > like to know just how the heck to use them. I've managed to > partially > > decipher the schematic, but I can't get the *ing ROM to > dump. I've got it > > I know I have the user manual and scheamtic for this > somewhere. From what > I remember the hardware is very simple and most of the work > is done in > the firmware which runs on the uProf's Z80. > > There's some other info in the manual, such as the printer mechanism > timing. Unfortuately, it's going to take me a bit of time to > find said > manual... If I remember I've got 2 manuals at home that are *this* easy to find so I'll dig 'em out hopefully today...... -- Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd e: adrian.graham(a)corporatemicrosystems.com w: www.corporatemicrosystems.com w2: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk (Online Computer Museum)

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X10 revived - looking for modules, switches, etc

by rhblakeman＠kih.net

Anyone have a stash of cheap excess modules, switches, etc for X10/BSR/etc. I know people mentioned sometime ago that they have bought boxes full of stuff for a few bucks but I don't have those same resources here and am setting up an "easier way of life" for my 64 yr old mother in law that has trouble getting around and forgets to turn lights off, falls asleep with the TV on, etc. I have the 2 way module to the PC and a remote that she can use but wall switches, appliance and lamp modules, etc are still needed. Email me direct if you have excess and want to make space. We can either work a cash deal or trade as I have lots of PS/2 equipment around and some older IBM PC equipment I can trade with. Thanks in advance.

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What did you ask "Santa" for this year.... : )

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Sell [mailto:msell@ontimesupport.com] > My wife and I just picked up a VAX 4000-500 for my Christmas gift. > The reply from the guy loading the car when he found out it > was for Christmas: > "Whatever makes you happy, man" > So what is everyone else on the list asking for? Computer > related... of > course..... Well, money's a little tight so I'm not getting much computer-related stuff, but I did buy an SGI Indy for my fiancee. ;) She's getting very impatient for it to arrive too. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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9-Tracks Drives, especially Overland Data

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 23, 12:50, Zane H. Healy wrote: > A while back I managed to get a nice little Overland Data OD5612 SCSI > 9-Track tape drive. [...] > Anyway I just noticed something. It's got a selector switch on it for > 1600bpi and 6250bpi. Am I correct in assuming that this means that I can > only read those two formats? I don't know anything about that specific drive, but I'd guess the answer is "yes". It might do 3200, which is phase-encoded like 1600, but probably not 800, which is NRZI and needs different electronics (and is actually harder to do reliably, according to some manufacturers). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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6502/Z80 speed comparison (was MITS 2SIO serial chip?)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Cp/m page zero was not required for the os functionality only commonality. The best worst example was the TRS-80 version that had page zero relocated +16k higher to allow for the fixed rom, keyboard and video IO. The aspects of CP/M that would work for a 6502 (or any cpu) are the dynamic filespace allocation and the standized IO interface (BIOS) concept. there are other aspects but the file IO and system IO concepts were the strong points. Ah, and you found the hidden register bug in the z80. You can select either absolutely but, you cannot know which was in use save by some arcane test procedure. Works ok if your building software and enforcing a protocal for use but a multitasking OS where random routines may use one of the other is a mess. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Sunday, December 23, 2001 4:15 PM Subject: Re: 6502/Z80 speed comparison (was MITS 2SIO serial chip?) >For some time I've occasionally contemplated a translator from 8080 syntax to >6502, just for mental masturbation. I don't consider the Z80 a worthy target >for such translation/emulation because half its internal resources are only >accessible via the most extreme of artifice. (It has a redundant register set, >at considerable cost, yet doesn't seem to have any way of telling the running >software which of the two sets it's using.) It wouldn't be terribly difficult >to assign register space to the 6502 zero page in locations corresponding with >some not used by CP/M on the 8080. That might prove an interesting way to cook >up a useable OS for the 6502. > >Dick > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Pete Turnbull" <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> >To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 5:21 AM >Subject: Re: 6502/Z80 speed comparison (was MITS 2SIO serial chip?) > > >> On Dec 22, 4:44, Ben Franchuk wrote: >> > Richard Erlacher wrote: >> > > >> > > Let's leave compilers out of the equation. Even the same small-C >> compiler, >> > > targeted at the two quite different CPU's potentially represent a >> significant >> > > skew in favor of one or another of the two. >> > > >> > How can you have skew? That is the whole idea of benchmark is to >> > compare >> > two machines. I would expect that the simple C that was given would be a >> > good test >> > when judged with other benchmarks. >> >> For a comparison of two development systems, maybe, but not for a simple >> comparison of processors. You'll find that the compilers were written >> differently for the different processors. As likely as not, one will be >> better at certain things than another, or better on one processor. >> >> For example, gcc does fairly poorly on a PDP-11 or an SGI machine (SGI's cc >> will run rings round gcc for MIPS in almost every respect) yet works very >> well on an x86 achitecture, because that's where the major development was >> done. If you take a compiler written for one chip, say a Z80, a straight >> port will produce poor code for a 6502 because you have to think about >> things in a different way, and this will be more apparent with a simple >> compiler than sophisticated one. >> >> -- >> Pete Peter Turnbull >> Network Manager >> University of York >> >> >

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Appletalk h/w

by jrasite＠eoni.com

Does anyone on the list want a pile of Appletalk tranceivers and cabling? I came into a box 18x18x36 of it and would rather give it away than pay to take it to the landfill. This is not Localtalk, but jan-u-wine AT. Round connectors, not RJ11. If anyone wants it for the price of postage, drop me a line. Jim

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AN/UYKs

by aw288＠osfn.org

I recently aquired a small number of military Data General clones called AN/UYK-19(V) and AN/UYK-64(V). These are Rolm and Loral machines. Does anyone have any information about them? William Donzelli aw288(a)osfn.org

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HP 1000E

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

> >Most of the cards in the machine you ahve are pretty good -- the >HS terminal will let you connect to a crt or a serial PC port with >a terminal emulator... > I did find a HP cable with a 24 pin card edge connector on one end and a 25 pin D connector on the other. The 25 pin connector only has a few pins in it (typical of HP serial cables) including 2, 3, 7, 13,and 25. I traced the wires back to where they would appear on the HS terminal card and it appear that I have the right cable for the box. At least I won't have to kludge togerther a cable. WhooHoo. I have plenty of dumb terminals laying around including a number of old HPs. So, based on your message, it sounds like I have everything necessary to make the computer "talk" to a terminal. >If you would like, I can send you a real short program >that you can key infrom the console that makes the >lights blink... This would be great! Another question: I'm assuming the placement of the cards in the cage determines the "Address" or LU of the card. Does it matter which slots the cards go in or is there an accepted standard for this? Which slot does the HS terminal card (console) go in? Thanks Again, SteveRob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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URL for "The Wench Bench"

by CLeyson＠aol.com

Interenting topic. How the hell do you build electronics that survives 15000G ! Got any technical info on RF proximity fuses ? I read somewhere that they used the capacitance between shell nozecone and target to pull the osc off frequency, a bit like a Theramin. BTW, the Germans developed a remotely controlled TV guided bomb during WW2. Luckily for the allies the picture broke up as the bomb approached its target and development was stopped. Chris

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Solace 3.0

by frustum＠pacbell.net

Ho, Ho, Ho -- Just in time for Christmas, it's Solace 3.0. Free Sol's for everyone! This version of my Sol emulator fixes a few small bugs (including the fact that the last release broke the ability to save to virtual tapes in real-time mode). More importantly, it adds very low level emulation of a DS/DD Northstar disk system. You can run CP/M 2.2 as well as NSDOS. The emulator comes with a few virtual disk images, including a collection of Sol-relevant files culled from the CPMUG archives. Solace home page: http://www.thebattles.net/sol20/solace/solace.html Sol home page: http://www.thebattles.net/sol20/sol.html ----- Jim Battle == frustum(a)pacbell.net

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9-Tracks Drives, especially Overland Data

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

A while back I managed to get a nice little Overland Data OD5612 SCSI 9-Track tape drive. I'm looking into getting it put somewhere that I can actually use it should I want (well that and I needed the spot it was for a couple of S-Bus expansion chassis). Anyway I just noticed something. It's got a selector switch on it for 1600bpi and 6250bpi. Am I correct in assuming that this means that I can only read those two formats? Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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6502/Z80 speed comparison (was MITS 2SIO serial chip?)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 22, 4:44, Ben Franchuk wrote: > Richard Erlacher wrote: > > > > Let's leave compilers out of the equation. Even the same small-C compiler, > > targeted at the two quite different CPU's potentially represent a significant > > skew in favor of one or another of the two. > > > How can you have skew? That is the whole idea of benchmark is to > compare > two machines. I would expect that the simple C that was given would be a > good test > when judged with other benchmarks. For a comparison of two development systems, maybe, but not for a simple comparison of processors. You'll find that the compilers were written differently for the different processors. As likely as not, one will be better at certain things than another, or better on one processor. For example, gcc does fairly poorly on a PDP-11 or an SGI machine (SGI's cc will run rings round gcc for MIPS in almost every respect) yet works very well on an x86 achitecture, because that's where the major development was done. If you take a compiler written for one chip, say a Z80, a straight port will produce poor code for a 6502 because you have to think about things in a different way, and this will be more apparent with a simple compiler than sophisticated one. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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M8650 async board problem

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 22, 23:15, Tony Duell wrote: > As the fault wasn't on the M8650, why did they cut that track? Did they > just never want interrupts? I've no idea. It wasn't cut by the previous owner; he doesn't know why either. > > However the fault, for those who're still reading, wasn't really the M8650 > > itself. There were two problems. At some point, I had unplugged the > > serial cable from the Berg connector, so there was noise on the serial > > input, which upset the diagnostics. The second problem was that the PSU > > And adding an 'antenna' (as in the serial cable) actually helps this? The proper cable has a jumper in the Berg connector to enable the EIA part of the circuit. It connects the 1489 output to the first gate in the receiver section. Without the jumper, the input to that gate floats, and hence picks up all sorts of noise. I wouldn't be surprised if I could pick Radio 2 up on that :-) > > +5V was down to about 4.5V, which isn't great for TTL. I'd checked the > > This has caught me so often when repairing DEC machines. The PSUs set up > fine on no-load and drop to 4V to 4.5V when loaded. And this causes the > most _amazing_ faults. Yes, and I should have known better. I realised something of the sort was amiss when I found that moving cards between front and rear backplanes made a difference. With everything in the front, the +5V went down to less than 4.3V. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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X10 revived - looking for modules, switches, etc

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Anyone have a stash of cheap excess modules, switches, etc for X10/BSR/etc. >I know people mentioned sometime ago that they have bought boxes full of >stuff for a few bucks but I don't have those same resources here and am >setting up an "easier way of life" for my 64 yr old mother in law that has >trouble getting around and forgets to turn lights off, falls asleep with the >TV on, etc. I have the 2 way module to the PC and a remote that she can use >but wall switches, appliance and lamp modules, etc are still needed. Email >me direct if you have excess and want to make space. We can either work a >cash deal or trade as I have lots of PS/2 equipment around and some older >IBM PC equipment I can trade with. Thanks in advance. I don't have any that is partable (I don't have much stuff right now at all, and the few things I do have are tied up in heavy use). But, I have found X10.com has cheap prices on packages, in many cases for just a few bucks, you can get a full setup, and they run specials on a regular basis that practically give stuff away. They have a newsletter for the specials, but they tend to send out emails TOO often, so use an email account you don't care about being spammed if you sign up (and I am fairly sure they passed my addy on to others... fortunatly, I NEVER sign up for those kinds of things except under certain accounts that are already heavly spammed) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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6502/Z80 speed comparison (was MITS 2SIO serial chip?)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

The most common reason for not using an hll is that unless the compiler is well written and optimizing you see the compiler not the cpu. Small C was a good language but the result was often so poor that even a small amount of hand optimization was easy to accomplish. For a cpu like 6502, this tended to be more true as many of the things the C language likes just dont map to cpu instruction set that directly. Same was true for most of the Z80 versions of small C as most treated it as an 8080 and didnt use the more useful instrucitons. As tot he PDP-11 that was the consumate C machine at the instruction set level. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Ben Franchuk <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Saturday, December 22, 2001 9:40 PM Subject: Re: 6502/Z80 speed comparison (was MITS 2SIO serial chip?) >Richard Erlacher wrote: >> >> Let's leave compilers out of the equation. Even the same small-C compiler, >> targeted at the two quite different CPU's potentially represent a significant >> skew in favor of one or another of the two. >> >> Dick >How can you have skew? That is the whole idea of benchmark is to >compare >two machines. I would expect that the simple C that was given would be a >good test >when judged with other benchmarks. The 8080/Z80/8086 all generate the >same poor >code. This surprised me as shows how poor the 16 bit intel product was. >The PDP-11 >version was rather nice but it even has a few quirks. >-- >Ben Franchuk --- Pre-historic Cpu's -- >www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html >PS. Note all my FPGA machines generate nice 'Small C' code and have a >resonably orthogonal instruction set. The well hacked Small C compiler >self compiles under >24 KB. A similar compiler for the 8080 is about 48KB.

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6502/Z80 speed comparison (was MITS 2SIO serial chip?)

by CLeyson＠aol.com

In a message dated 12/22/01 Chris Leyson writes: >> How about a straight insertion bubble sort ? A completely useless task but it >> does take a defined number of data moves and compare operations. The array >> to be sorted could be say, 16-bit signed integer, 1k words long and in reverse >> order. (That should take a while for a 6502 to sort out). In a reply dated 12/22/01 Richard Erlacher writes > Yes, maybe something of that sort would be appropriate. Testing it on 8-bit, > and then 16-bit quantities might be just the thing for testing the relative > ability, in spite of architectural differences, of handling longer data. I'd > suggest that larger records might be more appropriate, i.e. 32-byte records, > etc. OK 8-bit and 16-bit data is appropriate but would require separate algorithms. As for record length I would suggest at least 1k (1024) entries. (Eliminates base page cheating) > BTW, when I was in college, which I realize was some time ago, but, back then, > Bubble Sort and Insertion Sort were two different algorithms ... I don't > remember the differences, but will check my old texts, though they're in > Sanskrit ... Apologies, that should have read insertion sort OR bubble sort. Bubble sort runs through the array comparing adjacent values and swaps them whereas insertion sort moves an array member until it's in the right place. In terms of performance they are both slow algoritms. Here is the code from Numerical Recipies for an insertion sort (Fortran and C) Sorts an array arr(1:n) into ascending numerical order, by straight insertion. n is input; arr() is replaced on output by its sorted rearrangement. integer n real arr(n) integer i,j real a do j=2,n a=arr(j) do i=j-1,1,-1 if (arr(i).le.a) goto 10 arr(i+1)=arr(i) end do i=0 10 arr(i+1)=a end do { int i,j; float a; for (j=2;j<=n;j++) { a=arr[j]; i=j-1; while (i>0 && arr[i] > a ); arr[i+1] = arr[i]; i--; } arr[i=1]=a; } } Ignore the floats and reals for the data, they should be ints or chars for the purposes of our 6502/Z80 benchmark. Just for the hell of it, I will try this out in DSP56300 assembler. Chris

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Multitech/Acer Micro-Professor info WTD

by mhstein＠usa.net

Re AIM printers: I assume you're talking about the 20 col printer and not the -40; I've got a pile of these (not necessarily working, alas), but no markings on them other than Rockwell's. FWIW, the same printer was used by National Semi in at least one of their printing calcs, and I used to snap those up at junk shops for $5.00, a welcome discovery after having paid $150 ea for them from Rockwell & Dynatem. The 40 col model (very similar construction) was made in Japan, FWIW. Maybe there's still a helpful old-timer at Dynatem who could help you out; also, I assume you know that the AIM was disguised as a Siemens PC100 on the other side of the pond. mike --------Original Message-------------- From: "Philip Pemberton" <philpem(a)bigfoot.com> Subject: Multitech/Acer Micro-Professor info WTD <snip> Just out of interest, what sort of printer mech does the AIM-65 use? I'm not condoning the destruction of a perfectly good AIM-65 just to find this out, but I would like to know (in case anyone has a parts list for the AIM). Thanks again. - -- Phil. philpem(a)bigfoot.com http://www.philpem.btinternet.co.uk/

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CoCo & MOS books

by mhstein＠usa.net

Sorry 'bout that ;( Yeah, I've wished for a time machine myself a few times recently; been kicking myself as well over some of the stuff I've tossed. mike ---------------Original Message------------ Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 02:20:39 -0700 From: Ben Franchuk <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca> Subject: Re: CoCo & MOS books M H Stein wrote: > > Three more books available: > > RS TRS-80 Color Computer Technical Reference Manual 26-3193, 69 pages > > RS TRS-80 MC-10 Micro Color Computer Service Manual 26-3011, 47 pages > (Photocopy purchased from RS) > > MOS Technology MCS6500 Microcomputer Family Programming Manual, Jan '76, > 8 1/2x11, approx. 200 pages. Will throw in Synertek 6500 & 6500B data > sheets full of timing and cycle time info so you can join the > fascinating (!) discussion presently raging among Dick, Allison & Ben. Sure now you tell me 10 years I last had a COCO. You would not believeb the old computers I have thrown out do to 1) lack of software. 2) lack of docs when they break. Mind you most of the computers have been $10 specials but they would have been nice to keep. Also a lot of data-books and old byte and kilabaud magazines that I would have liked to keep got too wet in storage. The 6809 is the cleanest cpu for opcodes and for timing too. And to add to the chaos the FPGA cpu's I am building have even another variation in memory access - a 6809 style access with good setup and hold characteristics. - -- Ben Franchuk --- Pre-historic Cpu's -- www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html

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HP 1000/E

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

Took deliveery of my "New" HP 1000/E last week and yes Virgina, there really is a Santa Clause. For those who would bash eBay, here's proof that there are good deals to be had. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1294677875 Obviously there are no disks or OS but otherwise, the computer seems to be complete. Considering it's age, it's in remarkably good condition. All the cards aand covers are in place, very clean inside. Cool! I powered the thing up and it seems to work. I have absolutely no experience with these machines so, I really can't say for sure. When powered up, some of the lights do come on and I can select different registers and toggle data in and out. So... What's next? I'd really like to see it do "something" even if it's only blinking a coule of the lights. If someone could provide a SIMPLE routine to make it do that, I'd be grateful. Once again, I don't have any exposure with this thing so, I'll need pretty explicit instructions. I'm not familiar with all the cards but, from what I can tell, there is no ASYNC card in the box. I think it was originally used with a HPIB terminal. I do have some HP terminals but, none of them have HPIB interfaces. If anyone has a ASYNC card the'd be willing to part with, please let me know. I'm not sure what the licensing issues are but, would really like to find a OS for the system. I've got plenty of HPIB disks, tapes drives, etc... so copying the OS shouldn't be an issue. If anyone can provide a reasonable solution to getting the OS, once again, I'd appreciate it. Thanks for the help and Happy holidays to all, SteveRob _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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M8650 async board problem

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 23, 1:22, Pete Turnbull wrote: > On Dec 22, 23:15, Tony Duell wrote: > > > As the fault wasn't on the M8650, why did they cut that track? Did they > > just never want interrupts? > > I've no idea. It wasn't cut by the previous owner; he doesn't know why > either. I've just realised something. The machine was used in a real-time process control system in the pharmaceutical industry. If that system was designed as a "hard" real-time system, then interrupts would be verboten, as then it would be impossible to calculate the worst-case execution times for scheduling routines. I guess this was built not very long after the Flixborough disaster in 1974 -- an event still used as an example in safety-critical systems design courses. My guess is the designers just eliminated all the unlikely problems they could, as well as the likely ones. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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D*A*T*A* I*/*O* M*a*n*u*a*l*s

by mranalog＠attbi.com

CLeyson(a)aol.com wrote: > Try http://www.spies.com/arcade/TE/index.html for the 29A programmer. > Lots of other goodies there too :-) Well DAMN. I thought I was supplying files not on the web yet. Thanks for the link. --Doug ========================================= Doug Coward @ home in Poulsbo, WA Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center http://www.best.com/~dcoward/analog =========================================

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ROM preservation (Dataman S4)

by CLeyson＠aol.com

Apologies - my calling the S4 an overpriced toy was out of order. It is a very compact programmer and will program just about anything. I just never liked them - I could never manage to press the right buttons to get it to do what I wanted - and then the battery went flat :-( Just me being dumb. Chris

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DEC Support & Service CDs (was PDP 11/34 Console & cards)

by fcharp＠rogers.com

Okay, so I dug a tad deeper into the DEC service CD-ROMs and found a lot there. In terms of manuals, the 2 CDs include no less than... 852 (!) PDF-encoded manuals -- yes, that's 525 on one CD and the balance on the other. Remember the VAX technical library room? Ours was covered with orange manuals wall-to-wall, floor-to-ceiling.. Well I have the feeling that these 2 disks contain all of those and then some. The manuals cover everything from operator's manuals to CPU programmers reference, diagrams, bulletins. DECserver, Alpha desktops, storage units. And that's just for manuals. The disks also contain software libraries that include bios, drivers, etc... The index files alone take a fair bit of room. I thought for a minute that I could post them here, but I gave up as soon as I saw the size of them. So.... If you are interested in the index files, email me. I will have a run of disks made. NOT FOR SALE, only giveaways. I'll seed 5 or 10 of those who want it, and they can take it from there and pay forward by obliging other people. Cheers and all that sort of things, Frederic Charpentier P.S.: now, if only this kind of documentation archive existed for S-100 systems... Almost makes you want to take up VAX systems. Then again, I'd probably need to somewhat upgrade my home electrical switchbox. Or I could move next to a nuclear power plant...

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ROM preservation (Data I/O system 19)

by CLeyson＠aol.com

Dave McGuire writes: > If you're serious about programmable devices, Data I/O is the only > real choice in my opinion. The company's policies leaves a bit to be > desired...their software updates are prohibitively expensive, and it's > nearly impossible to use their earlier programmers without docs > because you need to translate chip part numbers to "device numbers" to > enter into the programmer...but other than that the boxes are great. I agree with Dave, Data I/O were, and probably still are, THE recommended manufacturer for programmers. The system 19 with the Unipack fitted will program 16, 18, 20, 24 and 28 pin DIL packages. It will also handle 2704's and 2708's with odd programming voltages. If anyone ever needs any help with this programmer I've got the manuals including schematics. Chris Leyson

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F/S: Atari Model CX-2600 and More

by CLeyson＠aol.com

Sellam Ismail wrote > The only thing it has going for it is the original box. Hmm... I sort of agree. It's a classic games machine just like the C64 or Sinclair Spectrum. OK it ain't a number crucher but it's still a classic and introduced a lot of people to computing (hopefully). Chris Leyson

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[geeks] IBM RS/6000 7012-3XX

by wilby98＠yahoo.com

I will be heading to a computer market tomorrow in Amsterdam and am on the lookout for an IBM RS/6000 7012-3XX type box. I found quite a bit of technical information at the IBM web site but was interested in a few other details. Assuming I find one: 1. How important is it that it have a key? 2. How important is it that it have media or able to boot up? (Can I download and install the appropriate version somewhere?) 3. What is an approximate cash value? 4. Are components easy to come by or should I really take a look to make sure everything is there? Thank you, Bill Amsterdam, NL _______________________________________________ GEEKS: http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/geeks

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how to clean a PDP8/A, dishwasher?

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, I have that itching to start up my new PDP8/A even without disks attached. Have a programmers console, so that's enough to enter a few programs. It's intriguing to see a machine with a simple input method and convenient IO programming abstractions, it is possible to bootstrap this system entirely >from scratch with only a manual. But first I need to give this thing a good cleaning. A friend has assured me that there's nothing better than the dishwasher, with the exception of big capacitors and, what about magnetic core memory? So, how should I clean the RAM cards? How the DC power supply units? If I put the other stuff in the dishwasher, I know there should be no detergent and no heat dry. But what about the rinsing aid, do I have to pump this out of the reservoir? I heard of another method using hand-washing first, then drying and finally a bath in Isopropanol. Is that what I should do with the core memory cards? Finally, finally, I noticed that the cards are all slightly bent from being kept in a horizontal position. They are sagging a little, like a hammock. Would that be a cause of concern in the long run? Should I mount the chassis in an upright position in the future? any other things I should know? -Gunther PS: I am probably going to make one "portable" PDP-8, where the console is mounted on the chassis and the rest of the opening covered plus a handle on the top. That would be neat for bringing into the classroom to teach fundamentals of computer programming, wouldn't it? -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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6502/Z80 speed comparison (was MITS 2SIO serial chip?)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 22, 1:16, Ben Franchuk wrote: > CLeyson(a)aol.com wrote: > <snip> > > Here is the code from Numerical Recipies for an insertion sort (Fortran and C) > <snip> > Do they have the "Small C Compiler" for the 6502? I know you can get a > Z80 or 8080 > compiler under CP/M. Note the version #1 does not have for or && > instructions. It wouldn't really be fair to use a compiler for the code to compare processors. You'd end up testing the relative merits of two compilers as much as testing the processors. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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ROM preservation

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 22, 18:06, CLeyson(a)aol.com wrote: > Neil Cherry writes: > > > I really like the Dataman S4, my friends use it pretty heavily in a > > very unfriendly environment. > > When the battery goes flat so does the processor so to speak and you can't > turn on the battery charge electronics ! You have to take the case apart and > "hot wire" the battery. I've always thought of the Dataman as an overpriced > toy. I've used S4's quite a lot, and I seem to recall there's a way to deal with that without opening it up. I've certainly recharged them from totally flat/won't turn on. As for price, they're about the same as other comparble devices, at least in the UK. And they can do PALs GALs serial PROMs and other mildly exotic things. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Multitech/Acer Micro-Professor info WTD

by philpem＠bigfoot.com

Hi, I've managed to acquire a few Multitech Micro-Professor printers and I'd like to know just how the heck to use them. I've managed to partially decipher the schematic, but I can't get the *ing ROM to dump. I've got it hooked up to a 74HC4040 12-bit binary counter and a Microchip PIC16F874 microcontroller. The hex data the PIC snaffled from the ROM contains some instructions, but most of it is filled with zeroes. Anyone got a ROM dump >from the "PRT-MPF" or "PRT-MPF-IP" boards? All my boards appear to be later-version ones, with Fujitsu 2732 EPROMs onboard. Also, has anyone got scanned copies of the MPF-IP (Micro-Professor mainboard) user's guide, monitor ROM dump, memory map, schematics, etc? I'd love to try my hand at writing an MPF emulator, but I don't have an MPF in my collection. I'd also like to get hold of one of each of the following: Synertek SYM-1 Rockwell AIM-65 (with printer) MOS KIM-1 Ideally, I'd also like the manuals, but if they're AWOL it doesn't matter too much - I'll just snaffle them from Rich Cini's webpage and print them off :-) BTW, the MPF printers seem to be quite plentiful - Greenweld UK appear to have plenty in stock. I've also got the Technical Reference for the Seiko Instruments MTP201-20B printer module that Multitech used on the MPF printer - just in case anyone's interested :-). There's only one minor thing about them - do NOT, under ANY circumstances, activate the head for longer than 1.5mS - it WILL burn out. Just out of interest, what sort of printer mech does the AIM-65 use? I'm not condoning the destruction of a perfectly good AIM-65 just to find this out, but I would like to know (in case anyone has a parts list for the AIM). Thanks again. -- Phil. philpem(a)bigfoot.com http://www.philpem.btinternet.co.uk/

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M8650 async board problem

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

I've fixed it. On Dec 20, 19:36, Tony Duell wrote: > Pete wrote: > > Now I'm really puzzled. After spending the evening playing with my > > serial board, and armed with the pinouts this time, I still have an > > interrupt problem. > Be warned DEC can be confusing here. For example on the schematics, pin 8 > of the FF is shown as Q and pin 9 as Q/. But that's because the D input > on pin 12 has an inverting 'bubble'. And of course the Set and Reset pins > are therefore the other way round to what you'd expect. The confusion comes mostly from the Maintenance Manual. Thanks to David Gesswien for scanning the KL8-E printset, and Tony's description of the pinout labelling, I worked out what should be happening. > That's the problem, I think. DEC's data bus is active low. Or that's how > it appears to me. Indeed, and that's what I expected. The Handbook doesn't show the data bus signals as active low, whereas it does secifically show 'L' after other active-low signals. Nevertheless, like most other open-collector type busses, the Omnibus is active low. > > Should I just swap the connections to the SET and CLR, and Q and not-Q on > > the 7474? Or am I missing something? > > No (!). It worked once as it is now, so it can work again. Find out if > you can ever make the Q/ output of that FF low, and if not, why not. Are > you getting a pulse on the clock pin when you execute a KIE instruction? > What is the D pin doing? They all seemed to be doing something, just not necessarily the *right* something, when I first mailed the list. I wasn't sure it actually *had* worked properly; I wondered if there could be an ECO missing. Certainly it hadn't worked for a long time, and presumably that was why someone had cut the INT RQST L track a long time ago. However the fault, for those who're still reading, wasn't really the M8650 itself. There were two problems. At some point, I had unplugged the serial cable from the Berg connector, so there was noise on the serial input, which upset the diagnostics. The second problem was that the PSU +5V was down to about 4.5V, which isn't great for TTL. I'd checked the voltage when I reassembled the machine, but it didn't have a full complement of boards in it at that time, and the additional load made it droop due to several not-too-tight connections between PSU, power cables, and backplane. I've since cleaned them up extra carefully, and tightened the connections, and readjusted the PSU to give 4.9V on the front backplane and just over 5V on the rear one (the difference is due to different loads on the two parts). Now KIE with AC11=0 turns interrupts off, as does CAF and the CLEAR switch, and KIE with AC11=1 turns them on, and it passes all the diagnostics. Oh, and FOCAL 69 runs fine :-) Now onward to OS/8 and some RX01s... Thanks to everyone whose suggestions or websites helped me get this far: David, Kevin, Tony, Allison, Ethan, Doug, Zane, the other Kevin, and Nabil. And probably others I've forgotten. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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ROM preservation

by CLeyson＠aol.com

Neil Cherry writes: > I really like the Dataman S4, my friends use it pretty heavily in a > very unfriendly environment. When the battery goes flat so does the processor so to speak and you can't turn on the battery charge electronics ! You have to take the case apart and "hot wire" the battery. I've always thought of the Dataman as an overpriced toy. Chris Leyson

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ROM preservation

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 21, Christopher Smith wrote: > I've been thinking recently that I should possibly get a ROM reader/writer > so that I can preserve the ROMs out of all my old parts, and I was wondering > whether anyone had some experiences (good or bad) with any different > programmers? > > Which programmers are good, which aren't so good, and why? If you're serious about programmable devices, Data I/O is the only real choice in my opinion. The company's policies leaves a bit to be desired...their software updates are prohibitively expensive, and it's nearly impossible to use their earlier programmers without docs because you need to translate chip part numbers to "device numbers" to enter into the programmer...but other than that the boxes are great. I have a Data I/O 2900 that I adore. I highly recommend that model, or its big brother, the 3900. > Where is the best place to get one, and which is the best to get on a tight > budget? eBay. Sure, everyone here poo-poos eBay, but face it...it's where you can get anything you want, any time you want. > What about making your own? (Note that I think this may be an interesting > project, but I'd really rather put my time into other things right now, so > this is near the bottom on my list of options...) It's fun, and certainly practical...See early literature by Steve Ciarcia for examples of some simple ones. > One called "Leaper 3" interests me because of its ability to copy one ROM to > another without any kind of computer hookup, which I imagine might be > useful, but I know nothing else about it. Ahh, a "real" device programmer. :-) I despise those dumb things that can't do anything unless connected to a PeeCee running Windows...totally useless to those of us who use real computers and don't allow Windows boxes in our homes. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Sellam in the news...

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>Hey, cool! Any chance of getting a copy >sent to me for my vanity file? http://www.newscientist.com/opinion/opbooks.jsp?id=ns232110 Antonio

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Fwd: F/S: Atari Model CX-2600 and More

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

I don't know what it's worth, but I'm posting it in case it's a decent deal. Doc From: "Bill" <WVIVERETTE(a)houston.SPAMrr.com> Newsgroups: houston.forsale,houston.wanted,austin.forsale, tx.forsale,misc.forsale.computer,misc.forsale-computers Subject: F/S: Atari Model CX-2600 and More Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 21:51:11 GMT Vintage 1978 Video Computer System by Atari Model CX-2600 Serial Number 8150545 Woodgrain 6-switch model Good Working Condition Includes: Original Box 8 games (4 with manuals) 4 Joysticks (2 work fine, 2 work some) 3 Paddle Wheel Sets (6 paddles - 3 work, 3 don't) AC Power Adapter TV RF Connector 1981 Atari Game Catalog Looks from e-Bay that it should bring $50-$70 Also, another entire 4-switch System if you want TWO! E-mail if interested. Pictures available. Available in Houston, TX Will ship if buyer pays shipping and insurance

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Unidentified 80-pin 32M modules

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Hi. The shop I buy a lot of custom stuff from gave me (not free, on spec) some 80-pin RAM modules. Mel thought they would run in the VS4000/60, and the form-factor is identical. They seat perfectly in the memory slots, and the locator-pin holes are right. Except the Vax won't boot at all with that memory installed. I've looked around on the web, and can't identify them. There are 2 paper labels: a QC label with 2 lines, the first line varies, the second line is the same on all: UNI00-20533-064 and a small label with what looks like a DEC/Compaq part number: 33522947-001 Does anybody know what those are? and/or need them? Doc

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6502/Z80 speed comparison (was MITS 2SIO serial chip?)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

When you get over it... Talking about 20mhz 65C02s and other "fast" parts that didn't exist when even the z180 (orginally 64180) was introduced is equally bogus. A Pentuim anything running a Z80 emulator is still emulation and not native silicon. Now cut the crap. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Friday, December 21, 2001 7:06 PM Subject: Re: 6502/Z80 speed comparison (was MITS 2SIO serial chip?) >We went through all this a couple of years back under the same heading. If the >Z235980 at 234 THz is code compatible then, if I understand you correctly, it IS >a Z80, right? Even though the Z180 won't fit in a Z80 socket, you'd sell it as >a Z80 anyway, right? Even though it didn't even exist back when it mattered, >you still insist it's a Z80, right? > >My Pentium executes the Z80 code just fine at about 75x the speed of of a Z80. >Does that mean it's a Z-80? > >We're comparing CHIPS, not philosophical constructs. If it IS a Z80, or Mostek >3480, or something else EXACTLY a Z80, i.e. built under the license, >pin-compatible, code-compatible, etc. then MAYBE it's germane to this >discussion. No chip that isn't a pin-compatible substitute commonly referred to >as a Z80 back in the days when the Z80 mattered is germane to this topic. If it >won't plug into the socket of a Z80, FORGET IT, because it's not a Z80. If >that's too difficult for you, then please ask an adult why a 47-ohm resistor >isn't the same thing as a 75-ohm resistor. > >I'm sure glad you're not trying to sell parts any more, Allison. I'd hate to >have to argue with you that the choke you're trying to pitch isn't a diode. > >Dick > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "ajp166" <ajp166(a)bellatlantic.net> >To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:24 PM >Subject: Re: 6502/Z80 speed comparison (was MITS 2SIO serial chip?) > > >> From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> >> >> >> >There are lots of things that you could compare, but the first things >> you've got >> >to leave out are the ones that aren't a Z80, which immediately deletes >> the Z180, >> >and Z280. The Z80 is not around any more than the 6502 is around. >> There are >> >> >> Why? they are still z80 core and code compatable. While they add things >> like >> serial IO, timers and MMU they are Z80, maybe more so than 65C02. >> >> Allison >> >> >> > >

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6502/Z80 speed comparison (was MITS 2SIO serial chip?)

by CLeyson＠aol.com

In a message dated 12/22/01 Richard Erlacher writes: > If you want to insist that you can devise a task, any task at all, mind you, > that you can code in Z80 code to run at 2x the clock rate of a 6502, in, say, > <80 lines of assembler, that's strictly a computing task, just to leave I/O out > of it, or any I/O task that you think you can code in legitimate Z80 > instructions, providing a precise spec for the I/O task, then I'd certainly come > out and say you can't cook a legitimate one up that a 6502 can't accomplish in > less time, in the case of the computing task, and that, since the I/O task spec > limits the rate, the 6502 will be able to do it as well. I'd like to see a task > that meets those spec's How about a straight insertion bubble sort ? A completely useless task but it does take a defined number of data moves and compare operations. The array to be sorted could be say, 16-bit signed integer, 1k words long and in reverse order. (That should take a while for a 6502 to sort out). Chris

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What did you ask "Santa" for this year.... : )

by djenner＠earthlink.net

Doesn't the DQ614 emulate the RL01/RL02? Can't you just use the RL device hander? Dave SP wrote: > > One Dilog DQ614 driver disk for RT-11. I have > one of these boards inoperative because I can't > configure it. > > Happy Christmas (if applicable) > > Greetings > > Sergio -- David C. Jenner djenner(a)earthlink.net

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Pyramid 90x

by pechter＠ureach.com

Here's what I know about the 90x... I haven't worked with Pyramid gear in about 9 years so I may be dropping a few bits. The machine loads COS the diagnostic software from an 80 track 96 tpi 5 1/4 disk. This contains the support software to download the necessary code into the machine to make it boot. The operating system is OS/x (a BSD 4.2 or 4.3 and SysV rel 2 or 3 hybrid). I'd love to get a machine running that around so I could figure out how they do the dual universe stuff so I could do it with FreeBSD. I used to teach OS/x Operations, Sys Admin, Comm and such for Pyramid and I also taught maintenance on their MIS series boxes. I had a 98x (IIRC) in the office which was similar to the 90x. Bill -- Bill Pechter Systems Administrator uReach Technologies 732-335-5432 (Work) 877-661-2126 (Fax) ---- On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, Dan Cohoe (dancohoe(a)oxford.net) wrote: > I recently brought home a Pyramid 90x. The old owner who had run the > machine at his work in the 80's bought it from his employer about 1990, > but never got it set up at home. > > Apparently he decided to dump it a few months ago, but because of its > size didn't get the job done. However, he did put all of the software > and the documentation on the curb for the garbagemen at that time. > > Mike Kenzie and I got there just before he called the recyclers for the > machine itself. > > What I need is a boot disk or other software and any documentation that > might be out there. According to the old owner, it starts by loading > the > boot program off the 8" floppy before it can find the fixed disks. > > Does anyone have anything for this machine? > > thanks, Dan Cohoe > > >

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siemens nixdorf laser printer driver for pageprinter model md12

by ROCKYROADENNIS＠aol.com

driver wanted regards rockyroadennis(a)aol.com

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