- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by wilby98＠yahoo.com

Thank you for taking the time to do the translation. As it turned out the bidding went too high for me. It's too bad because I dont often see items like this offered that often here in Europe. If this is an example of the prices an item sells for on eBay, I think I will have to depend on other means of finding an affordable, classic. Bill Amsterdam, NL On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 12:02:29PM +0100, The Wanderer wrote: > Hi, > > The text says > > 2 VAX-VMS computers Digital 4000-200 > > Model 660-QR) with the following config: > 16Mb ram, KA660-AA cpu, 200MB HD, 296 MB TK70 tapeunit & network > connection. > > With it belongs 2 VT420 terminals and console switch as well as all the > necessary > cabling. This machine is from the 89/90 era and is a solid machine. > Both machines were running until the middle of last year as a production > cluster > under VMS control. It can however also run NetBSD. > > picture <snip>

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DQ614: was Re: What did you ask "Santa" ...

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> I can't believe it. > > This success suppose to me to change some of my > thinkings about the life, the religion and other matters. > By example: Santa Claus exists ? Etcetera. I'll Second that!!! > >> One Dilog DQ614 driver disk for RT-11. I have > >> one of these boards inoperative because I can't > >> configure it. > > > >Was it Zane or Ethan who was also looking for this? Only for a few years :^) > >Well, it's a bit late, but I have an extra Christmas present for you guys. > > You'll find the diagnostic and formatter program, along with a diagram of > >the board, and the jumper tables, at > > > > http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/DQ614/ Amazing! Now the question is, does anyone know which HD's will work with this? I just might have to go digging through storage in the very near future! The other question is, once the disk is formated, does it matter what you use for an OS on it, or does it need to be RT-11? I was hoping to be able to use this board for OS's that expect RL02's instead of MSCP disks. Zane

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NCD 88k Boot monitor

by darek-ss＠wp.pl

Hi, I've got recently 2 old, but great :-) NCD Xstations 88k & 88kP6 based on Motorola 88100 processor. Unfortunately theirs network cards are without Boot Manager EPROMS ... Does anyone could help me and tell where I can find such EPROM or or just the image file which I can use to program one ? BM from HMX & HMXPro doesn't work because it is made for R4xxx processor. Darek ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Zapro? znajomych na czata! Wy?lij SMSa z nowego czata WP! Czat.wp.pl - Jedyny czat z ludzk? twarz? < http://czat.wp.pl >

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VS4000 hardware questions

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Well, I made room on my bench, opened up my grubby, new-to-me 4000/60, and it only has one of the two RZ24 drives my partner paid for. I've fired off email to the vendor asking him to ship the drive and mounting hardware, but I don't expect that he'll have either. What does DEC call the flat metal plate that the hard disk bolts onto? "Mounting bracket"? Does anyone have a spare? I figure I'll have to settle for a newer narrow SCSI drive and the price of the mounting hardware, if it's available. Lastly, while I'm wading through all the Google hits, are there any good reference sites for this box? This is the first 4000 I've been into, and I'd like a map. Doc

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What did you ask "Santa" for this year.... : )

by spedraja＠ono.com

I can't believe it. This success suppose to me to change some of my thinkings about the life, the religion and other matters. By example: Santa Claus exists ? Etcetera. But, by the moment, in case this driver works, I can put you in my list of fortunate with one bottle of Red Wine >from Spain, variety Rioja. Thanks and Greetings Sergio -----Mensaje original----- De: Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> Para: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Fecha: viernes, 28 de diciembre de 2001 21:04 Asunto: Re: What did you ask "Santa" for this year.... : ) >On Jan 6, 16:33, SP wrote: > ^^^^^^ >Someone needs to set their clock... it was Dec 22, actually > >> One Dilog DQ614 driver disk for RT-11. I have >> one of these boards inoperative because I can't >> configure it. > >Was it Zane or Ethan who was also looking for this? > >Well, it's a bit late, but I have an extra Christmas present for you guys. > You'll find the diagnostic and formatter program, along with a diagram of >the board, and the jumper tables, at > > http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/DQ614/ > >It would have been done on Christmas Eve, but my RX02 drives needed a >severe talking to, along with the 11/23 they are on. > >-- >Pete Peter Turnbull > Network Manager > University of York

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WYSE terminals

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>It might help. Assuming the modular keyboards are the same. :) <http://www.mythtech.net/wysekey.gif> Sorry for my very crude drawing. The RJ has a cable hanging off it that ties to CPU chassis for ground, so the RJ side really ends up with 5 connectors (4 in the plug, plus 1 for tail) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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What 's a 3Com 3c515 worth these days?

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

There were very few *ISA* 10/100 NICs ever made. The 3C515 is one of them. One of the local junk shops has a couple behind the counter. They are marked $20. I have no idea if that's a reasonable price or if they are gouging (they also have some used RTC8139-based boards next to them for $7, for comparison). Holger Kruse was considering adding support under Miami for a 3C515 on a GG2 Bus+, but at the time, 3c515 boards were unobtanium, and they wouldn't be fast, anyway. The only reason to really use an ISA 10/100 card is if you have a non-PCI machine, and your network infrastructure is 100 *only* (I have a 4-port 100BaseT hub from NetGear, for instance - it was cheap at the time). Just curious, but not curious enough to drop $20 up front. -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com

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720k floppy

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't you simply cover the hole >(with tape) on a 1.44mb floppy to make a 720 mb diskette? >Obvisously the hole is the one that isn't the write protect >one (i.e. doesn't have the slide tab). I can tell you, ignoring all the "technical" issues, based purely on experience... this is a BAD idea. It will work... for a while, but you are almost guarenteed that the disk will fail eventually. I don't have ANY that have worked long term... and I still do this trick from time to time when I need a 720k disk briefly... it is always easier for me to just convert a 1.44 then it is for me to dig out a 720k. They usually work long enough for me to copy a file to and from the disk... but within a few reads and writes, it will die. Reformatting will refresh it for a few more reads and writes... but again, it will die shortly. So if your data is important, DON'T do this. There are companies that still sell DD disks brand new, I would just hunt one down, and buy a bunch. -c

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Aim65 Haul/housecleaning

by rcini＠optonline.net

Hello, all: Happy holidays to all! I made a quick stop in Northern New Jersey this morning for a load of AIM65 stuff from a guy who used to manufacture a custom insurance rating computer that used the AIM as the base board. In short, this is what I got: * 8 AIM65 main boards in various states of cannibalism. 5 have displays. Different manufacturing dates, one a late-model with two high-density RAM chips in place of the 2114s. * Bag of printer parts and about 5 printers in various stages of rebuilding. * Case+ of paper * 2 Memory Plus boards * 1 EPROM programmer * 5 spare keyboards, all missing keys * 3 metal bases * 5 blow-molded case tops * Assembly hardware and related items * 4 full tubes of 2114 RAM chips * 7 full tubes of 2532 EPROMS I will be "auctioning" off to the group the bases and tops as well as some of the main boards. I will keep a small amount of the spares for my own AIM and all of the chips. I also have three books up for grabs: * A Programmer's Viwe of the Intel 432 System (Organick) * Inside Commodore DOS (Immers) * MicroC/OS-II RTOS book with disk (Labrosse) If anyone is interested in any of the three case sets, some of the spare keyboards or main boards or any of the books, please contact me off-list. Rich Rich Cini Collector of classic computers Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ /************************************************************/

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WYSE terminals

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Chris [mailto:mythtech@Mac.com] > I don't know about the terminals, but I have a Wyse 386 that was > originally designed to use a modular RJ-11 keyboard plug. Someplace I > have an adaptor that converts it to a DIN-5 for use with an > AT keyboard > (moves the 4 RJ pins, and has another wire that clips to the computer > frame to provide ground). > If it is of any help, I am sure I can find the adaptor and > tell you the > pinout for it. It might help. Assuming the modular keyboards are the same. :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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by mythtech＠Mac.com

>I have a WYSE terminal with a modular keyboard receptacle, and a keyboard >with a DIN-ish plug. Any chance I can crimp a modular end on it and use it? I don't know about the terminals, but I have a Wyse 386 that was originally designed to use a modular RJ-11 keyboard plug. Someplace I have an adaptor that converts it to a DIN-5 for use with an AT keyboard (moves the 4 RJ pins, and has another wire that clips to the computer frame to provide ground). If it is of any help, I am sure I can find the adaptor and tell you the pinout for it. -c

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Power Series

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: John Foust [mailto:jfoust@threedee.com] > What Mark is saying is that there's at least two different kinds of > rendering, and people sometimes chose SGIs for one reason but > not the necessarily the other. One, you might like to have > fast processors and hardware acceleration of textured polygons > for the real-time view of your 3D data. Example users would > include military simulation, virtual reality, flight simulators, etc. True enough. Also true that these days, SGI-style graphics hardware is usually more necessary for the "scientific visualization" crowd, than for animation. Most animation I've seen done recently was (at least in bulk) rendered non-real-time, probably on a render-farm of some kind. > The second group, 3D computer animators making special effects > and movies, they not only need the real-time stuff during > the modeling stage, but they also appreciated the raw horsepower > when it came to rendering, which is usually a purely software-based > operation. Of course, originally, SGI (and possibly Intergraph) was the only game in town ;) These days other manufacturers have graphics that may be "good enough," especially if you can't afford an (what is it now?) "Infinite Reality 2," or the like. > If you pick up an old SGI box, if you were extremely lucky > you might get an old animation package that does the modeling > and the rendering. They were usually keyed to the SGI box's > unique CPU ID. You might get the CDs but no key, and you're > out of luck. Unless you have a debugger and some spare time ;) > I must remind the younger folks out there that as recently > as less than ten years ago, you'd see animators taking out > six-figure loans to buy the SGI and software they needed to > run their shop, for just one or two animators. :-) Again, SGI was likely the only thing you could get as recently as "less than ten years ago" that had the graphics power for even the "modeling" stage. People have begun to take 3d acceleration for granted now that they have their Matrox GWhiz 5, or their Nvidia TTL 3, or whatever. :) Nobody stops to think where people got the power to do the kinds of operations for which these things allow you to use a standard (read: piece of junk ;) intel peesee (and more) several years past. > On the other hand, SGI distributed lots and lots of source > code and demos, and had a few unkeyed applications that may > run on the box you got if you get the CDs. These include > real-time interactive demos and apps. They'd give away > these annual "Hot Mix" CDs at trade shows by the stack. > I have a bunch I should eBay someday. Got one or two, myself, and they're amusing if nothing else. I've also downloaded the "FSN" filemanager from SGIs FTP site, which is entertaining. (for the uninitiated, this is the 3d file-manager that they showed in "Jurassic Park." > Given that SGI Indy boxes are going for less than $100 these > days, if you ever had an itch to see what they were all about, > you no longer have any excuses. Personally, I wouldn't get an Indy with 8-bit graphics if I could help it, which means you'd pay slightly more than 100 in most cases, but that's still not bad at all. On the other hand, Indys don't have much graphics horsepower. I'd recommend something with at least a Z-Buffer, myself. Indigo2 is a really good deal these days. ... and let's face it, a graphics subsystem isn't a graphics subsystem unless it takes at least three boards ;) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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add-on CPU load meters

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! .... but after ! two days of searching, I guess I _will_ have to go do it myself. ! ! Somewhere in my junk boxes, I have some .5" tall by 1.5" wide signal ! meters that I think I pulled from a dead CB radio, c. 1978 (pre-40- ! channel). The plane of the needle swing is parallel to the floor, ! and the needle has a 90-degree bend at the end, so you see a .2" ! tall vertical line slide from left to right as the signal improves. ! If I can find it, it'll mount perfectly in a 3.5" blank faceplace. ! ! Now to excavate the old parts! This is a neat project... keep us informed... :) --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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WYSE terminals

by csmith＠amdocs.com

Hello, Can anyone tell me how different the WYSE keyboards with the DIN-style plug are from the keyboards with the modular plug? I have a WYSE terminal with a modular keyboard receptacle, and a keyboard with a DIN-ish plug. Any chance I can crimp a modular end on it and use it? Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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One More PCB Dishwasher Question

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! >Many of the HP cards have paper stickers indicating ! >part number, revision, etc. Any thoughts on preserving ! >these through a dishwasher cycle? Or should I just ! >gently hand rinse? THanks! ! > ! ! I'd think ANY cleaning would put them at risk. If you don't ! want to loose ! the information, better document it somewhere. What about re-creating the labels, using the Avery label sheets? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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VAX 4000-200's on eBay.de

by spedraja＠ono.com

> I would not pay more than EUR 50,- for a MV4k200 like that. Even EUR > 50,- is high for only 16MB RAM, 200MB disk, TK70 and no other > peripherals. 501 Euros, final price of the auction. If somebody in the USA can send me a pallet of them for $100 everyone (final price shipping included) to the Madrid airport to put them in auction, I shall be very happy. With this range of prices I even can earn money. It's incredible. Sergio

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PDP8/A memory problems, what to do?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 27, 8:14, Ethan Dicks wrote: > --- Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> wrote: > > It's a commercial 4-layer board. The legend says "Tellima Technology Ltd > > (C) 1995", "PC03753"... > > I had no idea people were making OMNIBUS boards in 1995. That's amazing. > There are still machines in commercial use, but most of them are so deep > inside something else that nobody knows how to upgrade them, let alone > _want_ to change out the old for the new. > > I see they are a British company (http://www.tellima.co.uk) I guess that > means that their products will be a wee bit less common on this side of > the pond. They seem to be rare enough over here! I found Tellima's web site a while ago, and mailed them about the board, but so far haven't had a reply. They're only about 40 miles away from me, so if I get any encouragement >from them, I might pay a visit. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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PC software/books for shipping

by fernande＠internet1.net

Hello Everyone, I'm cleaning again! -Inside Netware 3.12 5th Edition New Riders Publishing (cd-included) -Microhelp Uninstaller 4 on 3.5" floppies (no box) -Quarterdeck Cleansweep 95 on 3.5" floppies (no box) -Norton utilities for Win95 ver 3.0 (cd and 2 sets of floppies, no manual) -Quicken 6.0 for DOS on 360K floppies in the box (I copied the floppies onto 1 3.5" floppy too) I'm not sure if this is Y2K compliant! -Norton Utilities 8.0 for Win 3.1 and DOS Manual only! -Quarterdeck Manifest manual only! -Quarterdeck QEMM 8 for DOS, Win 3.1, and Win 95 (in the box)(It saved my info in the "registered too" section, but my name doesn't seem to pop up, I used something else) -Basic Apple Basic by James S. Coan Hayden Book Company -Word Perfect 5.1 for Windows "Trade Up from DOS" (It will install without a current install of the DOS version) On 5.25" floppies in box Buyer pays shipping rounded up to the nearest dollar..... I'll probably ship USPS Priority since they'll give me boxes. Please reply off list. Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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One More PCB Dishwasher Question

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 27, 7:03, lee courtney wrote: > Many of the HP cards have paper stickers indicating > part number, revision, etc. Any thoughts on preserving > these through a dishwasher cycle? Or should I just > gently hand rinse? THanks! Hand rinse will do almost as much damage to some labels as the dishwasher. If I wanted to preserve the labels, I would try to take them off. Before you do any of this, make a note of what each one says and exactly where it was! If they're really old, and the glue has dried out, they may come off quite easily, with a little assistance from a scalpel blade or a thin knife, slid under the label. If they're not quite so dried out, white spirit or label remover may soften the glue enough for you to peel them off carefully. Try a corner of *one* first, in case your solvent makes the ink run. Be patient, it takes a while. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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add-on CPU load meters

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

With the recent discussions of the Be liquidation sale, I was wracking my brain for the project/website of an *analog* CPU load meter. Someone out there wrote a Linux driver to spit out CPU load on the parallel port, to which is attached a simple ladder-type D-to-A and an analog panel meter for CPU load. I can *not* find this again, even after an hour of Googling, Altavista-ing and Freshmeating. Anybody else remember this? Got any URLs? It would be a blast to watch the needle peg when, say, you fired up a CPU pig of a game or were digesting /usr/spool/news or some such. It would be less interesting on a system running, say, Seti-At-Home where the load is more-or-less constant. -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com

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Interesting find today!

by fernande＠internet1.net

I decided to take a trip down to Fort Wayne today, to one of my favorite surplus shops. I found a box of SCO Open Desktop 2.0.0. I don't know anything about this specific version, but I thought it interesting since it is quite removed from the current Caldera offerings. It appears to never have been installed. It only has 6 main disks.... 3 3.5" floppies and 3 5.25" floppies, that have been opened, but I find it hard to believe that they are anything more than boot and drivers disks. It also has 2 more disks, one of each size, these are unopened, and I don't know what they are. I assume that the bulk of the OS is on the Qic24 tape, that is unopened. Unfortunately, I only have two tape drives..... audio cassette, and VHS, and those aren't for the computer :-) I did try the 3.5" boot floppy on two of my computers..... it stops during the hardware detect portion.... maybe because it can't find a tape drive? Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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Be no more, get a BeBox?

by bpope＠wordstock.com

All, When did the the BeBox originally come out? Check out http://www.be.com ... On January 16th the is going to be a public liquidation auction. Maybe there will be some BeBoxen? Happy Holidaze, Bryan Pope

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M865/M8650 (was Re: PDP8/A memory problems, what to do?)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 27, 8:22, Ethan Dicks wrote: > --- Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> wrote: > > How different is an M865? Is it only current-loop? > > It is different. There is no 40-pin BERG connector - it has a set of > split lugs line a W-076 card and a 18" cable with a standard Mate-n-Lok > connector as seen on KSR-33s and VT220s, etc. I do not recall if I have > any docs on it, but except for the 20mA/EIA differences, I think it's > substantially similar, logically, to the M8650. It's a console port, > only, permanently set to 03/04. I forget if the M8650 is modifyable or > not. The M8650 is, the jumpers on the split lugs near the 'A' fingers set the address. Sounds like you might want something like a DLV11-KA -- that's a 20mA to EIA converter in a little black box about 4" x 2" x 1/2". Actually, that would be overkill; it has a 110 baud generator, reader-run control, and other options. It's meant to add 20mA capability to EIA-only devices like a DLV11-J but it can be used for any RS232-20mA conversion. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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One More PCB Dishwasher Question

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

> >Many of the HP cards have paper stickers indicating >part number, revision, etc. Any thoughts on preserving >these through a dishwasher cycle? Or should I just >gently hand rinse? THanks! > I'd think ANY cleaning would put them at risk. If you don't want to loose the information, better document it somewhere. SteveRob _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Image 625x425 pixels

by jrice＠texoma.net

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After Xmas Sale 11/44 wanted

by jpl15＠panix.com

Okay, just bear with me. At one time I had Dec By The Ton. I had Systems in every room of the house save the Loo, because I was afraid the steam >from the shower would hurt Things. And, in the Fulness of Time, I sold my Ton's O' Dec Stuff (and everything else for that matter) and took a job in a Furrin Country. My contract is ending, and I am not going to renew it. I will return to the US to take up yet another New Life in February. "So what's yer point? Get *on* with it, already..." AHEM.. I of course found out that anyone can bury themselves in hardware with no problem at all. That being said, I can't help the fact that I'd like to own a System again. I'd like to buy (and ship) a *WORKING* PDP-11/44 system of some description. Ideally, I'd like to have a >1MW machine with EIS and CIS, one (or two) RL02s, an RX02, and an SMD of some reasonable capacity... four or eight serial lines, and a 9 Track drive w/interface, LA36 and a real VT100 (or two or three)... operating system of course to be wiped completely off any media and I'll write my own in assembler. ;} Again, the machine has to be basically working, ie. booting an OS from mass storage without regular hiccups/glitches. My wish includes media and doc, engineering prints, etc. Major assemblies for spare parts is also on the List. I don't expect find the whole thing in one place (wouldn't *that* be nice) but the core components have to already integrated and 'playing well' with each other. That would be CPU, SMD, RL02, SLU and enough room on the backplane to flesh it out further. I am willing to spend money on this, but on a strictly hobbyist level. I'll be relocating to the Southwest, most likely Arizona, but my schedule will be flexible for making rescue roadtrips. QST QST QST QST: ATTN: classiccmp hams... I will be at Dayton this year... let's organize a classiccmp QSO... whatsay???? I thought to give a heads-up to anyone in the (sort-of) western US as to my Wishlist. I am not interested in any other models than the /44, and, if I can control the addiction this time, I'll stick with a single nicely restored and well-maintained System, rather than a house full of racks gathering dust. Why do I feel like I just fell of the Wagon?? ;} Cheerz Y'all John

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Intermittent(?) power-supply trouble

by csmith＠amdocs.com

Hi everybody. Still working on those MIPS RISComputers. I've gotten all three to power-up and self-test at least once. The one that's giving me problems came to me marked "bad power supply." Not being one to believe the markings, I tried it, and it powered up fine, did the whole self test, and (due to the lack of any disks) just set there, as you'd expect. So here's the deal. I powered it off, and then back on. The second time, it didn't seem to be getting any power at all -- not even fan-buzz. Would I be right to suspect a loose joint or the like? Is there anything else that might cause the power supply to work sporadically? What's the best way to attack this and get the power-supply fixed? Should I just dig out a multimeter and start checking connections? Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Booting a VAX 4000-500 from KFQSA SCSI.... ARRRRRGH!!!!!

by msell＠ontimesupport.com

(Grumble)..... I'm getting conflicting information regarding the ability to boot the 4000 >from SCSI devices attached to the KFQSA SCSI adapter. Some people say you can't do it, some say they actually have done it. I have a DEC RRD-43AA CD-ROM drive, and have it connected to an external SCSI box with a cable from it to the KFQSA adapter. Onboard the 4000 are two DSSI drives. The 4000 is able to recognize and assign device identifiers to the ethernet port and the two DSSI drives, but has no clue ragarding anything attached to the SCSI (KZQSA) card. Is there anything I need to do with the "VMB" to make it recognize the CD-ROM drive, or am I missing a step? I'm attempting to boot the 4000 from the CD-ROM and start the VMS 6 installation process. Thanks! - Matt Matthew Sell Programmer On Time Support, Inc. www.ontimesupport.com (281) 296-6066 Join the Metrology Software discussion group METLIST! http://www.ontimesupport.com/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er...

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DS5000/1xx & VS4000/60 memory specs

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

I'm looking for detailed module specs for the vaxstation 4000, and probably for the decstation 5000/1xx. I have a pile of 32M modules that my supplier thought work in a vs4k, but they don't. While I can't find any references to the labeling, y'alls' best guess seems to be that they are ram for a decstation 5000/1xx. I'd like to find out if the difference is something that can be modified, to make them compatible with the VAX. Failing that, if I can verify that they really are DS modules, I can sell them. The SIMMs themselves are from several different lots, but the common label, which looks like a DEC/Compaq P/N to me, is 33522947-001. Lastly, what's a 32M SIMM worth? I've got a little over $25 each in these. If they're worth that, I'll convert or sell them, if not I'll return them as misrepresented. Doc

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RSTS/E on a PDP 11/34?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Stan Barr [mailto:stanb@dial.pipex.com] > If you could attach an 8-inch disk to a PC (or a 5 1/4 inch > one to a PDP) > it _should_ be possible to create a boot disk using Paul Koning's FLX > utility, which allows a PC to read/write and create RSTS disks. Actually, you can do either, and my PDP happens to have 5.25" disks in the first place. :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Intermittent(?) power-supply trouble

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

At 12:55 PM 12/27/01 -0600, you wrote: >So here's the deal. I powered it off, and then back on. The second time, >it didn't seem to be getting any power at all -- not even fan-buzz. > >Would I be right to suspect a loose joint or the like? Is there anything >else that might cause the power supply to work sporadically? Best source for finding loose solder joints is to look at the board in question...

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OT: Rackmount slider kit for IBM Netfinity 5100

by vcf＠vintage.org

I have a new rackmount slider kit for the IBM Netfinity 5100. This is the kit that came with the unit so that you can rackmount it. The part number on the box is 09N7484. It'll probably work with other cases in the 5x00 series. Best offer by Jan. 2 gets it. Otherwise, it probably gets recycled. Please reply privately (I know you will ;) Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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RSTS/E on a PDP 11/34?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] > Ok, cool. How can I get RSTS/E boot media? How do I find > out what device > my 11/34 will boot from? It has an RK05, RK05f and two 8" > floppy drives. I don't know. :) Let me know if you find any. I have an 11/75 that would love to run RSTS/E. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Apple Questions...

by rhudson＠cnonline.net

Can I somehow... A. Get Dos3.3 to run on 3.5 disk? or B. Get the renumber program from DOS 3.3 to run under Prodos? Thanks!

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Intermittent(?) power-supply trouble

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Sipke de Wal [mailto:sipke@wxs.nl] > If it is a switching PSU you'll propably need to load it > in order to have it function properly. I always use an old > defuncty HD for this purpose ..................... > Chances are that if the load is not large enough it will shut > itself down, while it may still be a OK PSU. I thought that may be the case too, but one of the working units is missing the tape drive (which this unit has...) and still functions properly. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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RSTS/E on a PDP 11/34?

by vcf＠vintage.org

This may be a dumb question but... Will RSTS/E (specifically) RSTS/E-V7.0/07 run on a PDP 11/34? Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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PDP8/A memory problems, what to do?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 26, 18:21, Ethan Dicks wrote: > --- Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> wrote: > > > It's not cool like core, but did anyone ever come up with a modern > > > battery-backed-up SRAM board? > > > > Yes, I've got one. It even has a connector to link to an interface in a > > PC, so you can squirt (or suck) data in (or out) directly. > > That's a cool feature. You got docs? Is this commercial or homebrew? > How about a digital picture? 75dpi scan? It's a commercial 4-layer board. The legend says "Tellima Technology Ltd (C) 1995", "PC03753". It has a couple of surface-mount KM68100 SRAMs, but the most prominent features are the two Actel 1020 FPGAs. It also has 6 x 8837 and 3 x 8838 interface ICs, a pair of 74HCT244's, 2 x 74HCT160 and a 74HCT161, a MAX695, a 16MHz oscillator, a 3V 1/2AA lithium cell, a littl daughterboard with some inteface chips, and the 26-way header for the PC interface. The PC interface is a small 4-layer ISA card "PC03285-C", with a couple of Actel 1010's, a few small SMDs, 2 x 74HCT160 and a 74HCT161, and a 26-pin header on the backplate. Interestingly, it also has space for a 132-pin SMD device, several smaller SMDs, eight ZIP devices, and a couple of 8-pin miniDINs. I don't have a scanner, at least not one that works. Nor a digital camera, except my Indycams, which aren't exactly high resolution. I'll see what I can do... -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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RSTS/E on a PDP 11/34?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] > Ah ha. Ok, so then my next question is, if I had some > version of RSTS/E, > could I read files on disks from other versions? Are they basically > interchangeable? I think it uses FILES-11/ODS-1, which means that you can share disks among RSTS/E systems and RSX-11 systems. VMS will also read and write them if I'm not mistaken. At least it should read them. VMS uses ODS-2 natively, though. I also have the FILES-11/ODS-1 spec in electronic form. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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add-on CPU load meters

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated 12/27/01 11:35:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, erd_6502(a)yahoo.com writes: > I found that. More than once. That's for an LED bargraph. I'm > looking for a circuit that operates an old-fashioned galvanometer- > style panel meter with a needle that swings from side-to-side. > > I can invent my own - a simple ladder D-to-A to produce a variable > voltage out of the parallel port. I was hoping to save the math > and use resistor values that someone else has calculated, but after > two days of searching, I guess I _will_ have to go do it myself. > > Somewhere in my junk boxes, I have some .5" tall by 1.5" wide signal > meters that I think I pulled from a dead CB radio, c. 1978 (pre-40- > channel). The plane of the needle swing is parallel to the floor, > and the needle has a 90-degree bend at the end, so you see a .2" > tall vertical line slide from left to right as the signal improves. > If I can find it, it'll mount perfectly in a 3.5" blank faceplace. > > Now to excavate the old parts! > > -ethan > > Well, please let us know if and how you get this working. I would love to have something like this as well! -Linc. In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right... Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.

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PDP8/A memory problems, what to do?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 26, 18:18, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > --- Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> wrote: > > On Dec 26, 14:20, Gunther Schadow wrote: > > > > > My first PDP-8 program is a memory test... > > > > Good idea. I meant to mention in my followup to Ethan, that the > > diagnostics are also available, at > > > > http://pdp-8.org/papertape/ > > Nice. Fortunately for me, I have several boxes of DEC diagnostic tapes > (nothing unusual, but I'll check my list against what you have) I don't deserve any credit for the tapes and docs online -- they're the fruits of serveral other people's labours :-) pdp8.org is Aaron Nabil's site, and David Gesswien provides the docs at www.pdp8.net > At the moment, I think I have an M865 that works and an M8650 that may > or may not work. If I'm forced to use 20mA, I guess I'll have to dig > up a genuine IBM 8-bit serial card and mod it to switch it to current > loop. You probably know you can use an M8650 in RS232 mode. If you don't have a BC01V cable wired for RS232, Doug Jones' site has an excellent diagram, and a useful document explaining how to set up the baud rate etc (BTW, the note about changing the capacitor value for baud rates other than 110 only applies to current-loop operation). How different is an M865? Is it only current-loop? http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/pdp8/hard8e/ -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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UnCursing the Darkness.

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 26, 21:39, John Allain wrote: > I recently bought 2 each of all the white LED's that Jameco > sells. While *white*s are OT, they are nonetheless impressive. > The light density, efficiency, color, and longevity they have is > pretty amazing, to me anyway. Jameco rated them at 4 foot > candles at 20ma, which seemed a little 'opto'mistic. > I tried them out, and they reach near peak light at more like > 180ma, getting just noticeaby warm. At 250ma they are > 'uncomfortably' warm, hence question: > Did they really mean 20ma? at that proportion they're > putting out <10% peak, but 180ma is WAY above spec, > Jameco's spec anyway. So I guess Jameco's wrong? > Could I be loosing lifespan at this current? Maybe the > not-too-warm test is good enough? I had a look in my Farnell catalogue. Most of the white LEDs they stock are rated between 400 and 5600 mcd (millicandelas) at between 20mA. 20mA seems to be a standard current to quote the light output at, for most LEDs, not just white. However, Farnell also give lots of other data, including the maximum rated forward current, and the highest for any of the white LEDs is 30mA (made by Infineon and Multicomp). I don't think you should let them get warm :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Will someone delete me from this email list please as the commands do not work!!

by jamie＠rbattison.freeserve.co.uk

I want to remove myself from this list as i no longer have an interest in this subject. The commands on the website do not work so can the list owner please remove or can someone give me some idea of how to do it. cheers _______________________________________________________________________ Never pay another Internet phone bill! Freeserve AnyTime, for all the Internet access you want, day and night, only ?12.99 per month. Sign-up at http://www.freeserve.com/time/anytime

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RSTS/E on a PDP 11/34?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 26, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > This may be a dumb question but... > > Will RSTS/E (specifically) RSTS/E-V7.0/07 run on a PDP 11/34? Dunno if this will be useful, but I ran RSTS/E v9.4 on a PDP11/34a for a long time.. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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PAL introduction (was MITS 2SIO serial chip)

by pcw＠mesanet.com

The PAL was introduced in 1978, Other types of programmable logic devices were available earlier, (FPLA's for example) Here is a quote from one of the PAL's inventors (Andy Chan -- now at QuickLogic) "MMI's PAL was designed to overcome the problems associated with FPLA that made it difficult for end users. A proprietary programmer was necessary and a cumbersome inputting process (creating the design in Boolean equations, translating them into a bitmap and typing that into a machine that generated a paper tape for the programmer to read) meant that if the design didn't work, it was impossible to know at what step something went awry. Our PAL was faster and used less power, but the main improvement was in its ease of use, Chan said, noting that the first PAL chip was introduced in 1978." PCW

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PDP8/A memory problems, what to do?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 26, 12:08, Ethan Dicks wrote: > --- Gunther Schadow <gunther(a)aurora.regenstrief.org> wrote: > Good idea. I have a couple of quick routines I use as a basic > check-out, once I know I can read and write from/to field 0 > reliably - one is an inchworm for blinkenlights (or a counter > for the -8/a) I do that too. I also have a couple of very short toggle-in programs for the console serial line, one of which echos what you type. The last item I have that might be useful is a uploader that sends files, either plain or papertape images, to the RIM or BIN loaders -- it's on Kevin McQuiggin's page at http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/pdp8/software/new-send.c > > The third 16k board > > plays the high fields 4 to 7, but it has a systematic > > error masking out bits 6 and 7. > Well... I doubt the core planes are bad, but I suppose it's possible. > I would suspect the bus buffers first, then, depending on the exact nature > of the problem there are failure modes of the inhibit drivers that could > whack your bits as they pass through a memory read cycle, but that's > not horribly likely. > > The trick is to sit there with the schematics and generate write cycles > and read cycles through the front panel as your trace the flow of bits > through the memory. I'd agree with that. It's more likely a logic problem than a core mat problem. > It's not cool like core, but did anyone ever come up with a modern > battery-backed-up SRAM board? I'm thinking of discussions of a few > years ago and talk about a quad-width OMNIBUS board w/2x62256 SRAMs. > Cheap to make (not counting a 1 sq. ft PCB), but compared to what we > used to pay for RAM...) and made with modern components. It may have > all been discussion without even a schematic generated, but I had to > ask. Yes, I've got one. It even has a connector to link to an interface in a PC, so you can squirt (or suck) data in (or out) directly. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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PDP8/A memory problems, what to do?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 26, 14:20, Gunther Schadow wrote: > My first PDP-8 program is a memory test, and I was glad I > did it because I found a problem. My test goes through all > memory fields and writes into each cell its address in the > field. Then it reads that address out of each field again > and so finds problems. Good idea. I meant to mention in my followup to Ethan, that the diagnostics are also available, at http://pdp-8.org/papertape/ and the corresponding documentation is available at http://www.pdp8.net/query_docs/query_all.html The papertape images have headers, and the way the BIN loader works, you need to strip the ASCII header but leave at least part of the top-bit-set leader part at beginning and end. The "send" program I mentioned will take care of that. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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OT: Older inventory programs for home computers

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 12/26/01 8:23:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, lgwalker(a)mts.net writes: << A local general purpose mechanic who mainly works on Ski-doos in the winter and pumps and everything else in the summer gave me a complete Adam (!) collecting dust on the shelf, when I told him I collect computers. He mentioned he could use an old box to keep track of his parts inventory if I had any spares. I volunteered to supply him with something that would serve simple needs thinking of everything from a C-64 to an A2 or an XT to a 386 and that there must be 100s of programs that would be available. And no I don't want to configure a Database program. I did a Google search and found only the newest Gee-Whiz Winblows 9x, 2k, XP, and OSX programs, and while I haven't searched Simtel, out of frustration I've decided to defer to the list about older programs to track inventory and if it also has billing and labour, so much the better. Any suggestions would be appreciated. It would serve as an example that older machines don't have to be delegated to land-fills. This area is in north- central Manitoba,Canada and not exactly a hotbed of technology. The temperature at present is -20 C, but the air is breathable. >> I do have an inventory prorgam with pretty modest system requirements, but pretty much seems to be designed for home inventory and such.

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FW: VAX 3900 Free to Good Home

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

If I was closer, it'd be mine... :-( --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Dave McGuire [mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com] ! Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 3:41 PM ! To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org (E-mail); NetBSD/Vax Mail List (E-mail) ! Subject: Re: FW: VAX 3900 Free to Good Home ! ! ! ! *sigh*, this has to happen a month and a half after I move out of ! Laurel... :-( ! ! -Dave ! ! On December 26, David Woyciesjes wrote: ! > I'm sure someone here would want this... ! > ! > Subject: VAX 3900 Free to Good Home ! > Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2001 22:40:56 -0500 ! > From: Chuck McCrobie <mccrobie(a)cablespeed.com> ! > Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com ! > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms, comp.sys.dec ! > ! > As a testament to Digitial engineering, I have a VAX 3900 ! that's been ! > sitting in my garage for 3 1/2 years that just booted up! ! > ! > CONDITIONS: ! > ! > Machine must be picked up in its entirety - ALL OR NOTHING ! > Local pickup only - I don't want to ship this beast ! > ! > LOCATION: ! > ! > Laurel, MD 20724 ! > ! > You will need a large sedan, pickup, or similar vehicle. ! The external ! > frame has been modified to come apart, so loading it will be easy. ! > ! > PARTICULARS: ! > ! > VAX 3900 - CPU - (Big cabinet) KA655-AA (M7625-AA) ! > 32 MB RAM - MEMORY - MS650-BA (M7622-A) ! > DESQA-SA - Ethernet - (M3127-PA) ! > CXY08-M - 8 line Terminal controller - (M3119-YA) ! > USD 1108 QBUS->SCSI Controller - in passthrough mode ! > * This is a NON-DISCONNECTING controller - yes, I ! have the manual! ! > TQK70 - tape controller - (M7559-00) ! > * DRIVE IS _BROKEN_ ! > KDA50 - disk controller - (M7164-00 & M7165-00) ! > CMD 200 TM QBUS->SCSI Controller ! > * Yes, I have the manual ! > RA90 Drive (1.2GB) - Big and slow, but after 3 1/2 years idle time, ! > still works ! > TK70 - tape drive - BROKEN ! > ! > NOTES: ! > ! > The CMD 200 TM recognized a newer SCSI CD-ROM and booted ! VMS 7.1 install ! > kit. ! > ! > Machine currently boots VMS 5.5-2. ! > ! > CXY08 and DESQA have NOT been tested, but were working. ! > ! > ! > --- David A Woyciesjes ! > --- C & IS Support Specialist ! > --- Yale University Press ! > --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu ! > --- (203) 432-0953 ! > --- ICQ # - 905818 ! > ! ! -- ! Dave McGuire ! St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf !

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Anti-Static Foil?

by rhblakeman＠kih.net

I do it all of the time, works fine. Stuff with onboard batteries it might hurt though if the battery is left in, so I put a sheet of thin cardboard across the bottom on the board (solder side) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Doc Shipley <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 17:17:54 -0600 (CST) >Hi. > I think I've made a trade for a CPU, memory, and a graphics board for >the ex-MVII in the garage. The guy daid that he doesn't have anti-static >bags to ship the boards in, and asked if I thought wrapping them in >aluminum foil would do. > Any suggestions? > > Doc > >

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Anti-Static Foil?

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Hi. I think I've made a trade for a CPU, memory, and a graphics board for the ex-MVII in the garage. The guy daid that he doesn't have anti-static bags to ship the boards in, and asked if I thought wrapping them in aluminum foil would do. Any suggestions? Doc

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