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eBay MicroVAX 2000

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: John Allain [mailto:allain@panix.com] > Personally I have seen only one mV2000 in 10 years, > outside of eBay, so I'd say he's right. Well, I have one friend who's looking for a MicroVAX (or VAXStation) 2000, who's ahead of you in line, but I'll post the next one I find _after_ this one to the list. ;) I do know where to find one, since another guy I know has one he's not going to do anything with. It's just a matter of talking him into digging it up. Otherwise, I had all kinds of trouble finding these things until I bought my first VAXStation 2000 (eBay, believe it or not...), and then they just started popping up everywhere. Maybe you should try that? Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Fwd: 2 IBM PS/2s, DC/MD area

by jfoust＠threedee.com

I forward them all... - John >From: "jkd1932" <jkd1932(a)starpower.net> >To: <jfoust(a)foust.org> >Subject: IBM PC'S >Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 20:12:20 -0500 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 > >Mr. Foust, the organization I work with has two IBM PS/2, 286, PC's to give to anyone who wants them. I am in the Washington,DC/Baltimore,MD area. I have tried re-cycling groups, but they don't want them. Then I thought there would be a collector who would interested. Both systems are in excellent condition. I would appreciate your advice. I have looked at the "Classic Computer Rescue List", but did not find anyone who would be interested. > >Ken Diggs, Damascus,MD

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Decwriters

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Merle K. Peirce [mailto:at258@osfn.org] > We seem to have a surfeit of Decwriters. Would anyone be > interested in one? Interested, yes -- those are teletypes, right? ... but how big are they? I certainly can't make it to RI right now to pick one up. :) (really too bad...) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Mac SE

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>I have a Mac SE that while attempting to remove the motherboard to replace >bad memory, I smacked my hand into the CRT filament/plates socket, and >cracked the CRT. How hard did you hit the thing?!? (let me guess, pulling the power cable off the mobo, it was stuck, and you pulled a little too hard to free it) >1) Does anyone have a CRT for it that I could get for less than the price >of another SE + shipping? Check the LEM swap list (www.lowendmac.com), you can probably find an SE for free (plus shipping). If you had two forevers to wait, someplace I have two SEs with fried motherboards, and would happily part with one... but I admit that it will be some time before I get the chance to search for them (they are in one of 3 locations, and I don't know WHICH of the SEs at those locations are the ones that are dead). >2) Is it possible to modify it to use a standard Mac (15 pin) monitor? I don't think so, but there are some 3rd party external video cards for the SE... but I suspect you will need to get it up and running before you can activate the external video card. Does it currently even power up? -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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eBay MicroVAX 2000

by dittman＠dittman.net

On eBay someone has a MV2000 for a BIN price of $25.00. That's very reasonable. What is not reasonable is they describe it as "RARE!" and say "This is as close as you'll get to owning a real VAX at your house!". Some eBay sellers must never run a search on current and completed items for things they are selling. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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Fwd: 2 IBM PS/2s, DC/MD area

by zmerch＠30below.com

Rumor has it that Tothwolf may have mentioned these words: >2 - Model 55SX (8555) >1 - Model 30 286 (8530) >1 - Model 30 (8530) >1 - Model 50 (8550) > >Does anyone know why IBM choose to use the same part number for the Model >30 and Model 30 286? Because they're both Model 30's??? ;-) Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an *older* .sig. (circa 1997!) Why does Hershey's put nutritional information on their candy bar wrappers when there's no nutritional value within?

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2 IBM PS/2s, DC/MD area

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/17/2002 3:13:58 PM Central Standard Time, doc(a)mdrconsult.com writes: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Julius Sridhar wrote: > > > On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Russ Blakeman wrote: > > > > > There aren't a lot of those around either... > > > > I have one. Along with an N51SX, and one of my prized possessions, a > > CL57SX. I want to get the Thinkpad 700 (some models were also > > Microchannel, if not all) and the Thinkpad Power Seried 830. > > Why not the TP 860? That's the REAL Holy Grail of RS/6000s.... > > Too bad they never finished the PPC version of OS/2 to run on it. 8-[ --

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Christine Finn in Seattle Jan 17-20

by doug＠nut.net

Christine Finn, the Oxford Archaeolgist author of "Artifacts: An Archaeologist's Year in Silicon Valley" http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0262062240/ will be in Seattle for a reading at the University Bookstore 7pm Thurs, Jan 17: http://www.bookstore.washington.edu/ubs/main.taf?area=events&page=events&ca… and then plans to hang out with and interview random computer collectors for her next book. I'll be hosting her at my Bainbridge Island place during her stay, so send me a note if you'd like to hang out with us on the island, or send her a note if you'd like to arrange a meeting elsewhere in the Seattle area: Christine Finn <christine.finn(a)archaeology.oxford.ac.uk> Cheers, Doug

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eBay MicroVAX 2000

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Dittman [mailto:dittman@dittman.net] > On eBay someone has a MV2000 for a BIN price of $25.00. That's > very reasonable. What is not reasonable is they describe it as > "RARE!" and say "This is as close as you'll get to owning a real > VAX at your house!". Well, I have a few problems with that statement, myself. The MicroVAX 2000 _is_ a real VAX. :) So are the four VAXen I have which aren't MicroVAX 2000s, and which are also not "RARE!" There are 8 VAXen (does that make a whole heard?) "at my house," two of which aren't mine. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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What DEC item are these from?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 16, 22:54, Bill Bradford wrote: > Anybody know what DEC item these are from? I got a bunch of them > (at the time, in a little foam "holder" in a box) a few months ago > with a big batch of PDP-11 stuff, but my dog got ahold of it and > they're now all over a section of the carpet in my garage.. > > http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/bulbs.jpg They look like the panel bulbs for a PDP-8, which are the same as for things like a DX11 or RK05 drives. Did the earliest Unibus machines also use bulbs or were they always LEDs? Anyway, they're worth saving. The correct bulbs are hard to get now (the types I've found available are higher current than the correct ones). Bi-pin fuses are about the same size but don't have the glass, er, bulb, on top :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Old Cross References, etc.

by marvin＠rain.org

How important is it to keep old catalogs, cross-reference data, component buyers guides, data books, data sheets, etc.??? I've collected a LOT of the above from about the mid 70's and while not ready to dispose of it yet, I am really curious what others on this list think about keeping such stuff. As for some examples: RCA SK Cross Reference/Replacement Catalog 1974 IC Master 1976 C&K Switch Catalog Printouts of instructions for CP/M utilities, programs, etc. And on the topic of getting rid of stuff, I had been in contact with some list members last year about IIRC HP tapes, OS/2 something, etc. A lot of that stuff got packed away (we had company) and I am just starting to dig stuff out again. I can't remember who wanted this stuff, so if you will email me with what we had discussed, I'll keep my eyes open for the stuff and get back to you as I find it. Thanks.

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68010 & 80186 (was: Re: Mac IIci)

by ken＠seefried.com

>Yes, and the 80186 -- 68010. >Both existed but were not popular in many systems. Both equally >quite rare in that regard. Not entirely true. Clearly the 68010 was quickly eclipsed by the 68020 and thus showed up in relatively few systems. This is different, BTW, than not being popular. OTOH, the 80186 (including the AMD Am186 line) was a wildly successful chip in the embedded systems world. Vast numbers of devices based on the '186 are out there, often because one could use the IBM PC and follow-ons, hardware & software, as development platforms on the (relative) cheap. Ken

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trying to identify this 68K-based board...

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 17, Eric Chomko wrote: > Wasn't the 3270 emulator a dual card setup? Are you thinking of the 370 emulator? I have a few 3270 boards from various manufacturers here, and they're all on single boards. I've never seen one of those neat 370 emulators but I wouldn't be surprised if they're multiple-board units. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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What DEC item are these from?

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Yeah, they do _look_ like fuses from a SparcStation 1 and 1+... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Eric Dittman [mailto:dittman@dittman.net] ! Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:49 AM ! To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org ! Subject: Re: What DEC item are these from? ! ! ! > On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 11:03:09PM -0600, Eric Dittman wrote: ! > > It's hard to tell from the picture. These could be bulbs, or they ! > > could be fuses. Is the clear part plastic, and does it ! have a flat ! > > top? ! > ! > Look at the url - bulbs.jpg. 8-) ! > ! > Round top on the clear part. ! ! The fuses I'm thinking of look kind of like bulbs, and some of ! them in the picture looked like they might have flat tops, so ! I figured I'd make sure. ! -- ! Eric Dittman ! dittman(a)dittman.net ! Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/ !

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Decwriters

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 17, Christopher Smith wrote: > > We seem to have a surfeit of Decwriters. Would anyone be > > interested in one? > > Interested, yes -- those are teletypes, right? ... but how big are they? I certainly can't make it to RI right now to pick one up. :) (really too bad...) Uhh...DECwriter != Teletype. First of all, DECwriters made by DEC, and Teletypes aren't. :) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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(Fwd) [HP3000-L] HP3000 Equipment

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! From: Eric Dittman [mailto:dittman@dittman.net] ! ! ! > The HP 3000/922 is a PA-RISC system, running MPE/iX. It ! > isn't supported ! > by the PuffinGroup port of Linux. Just the computer is ! > about the size ! > of a 2-drawer file cabinet. ! ! Too big for me, and I'm not close, but I was told by an HP ! engineer that the PA-RISC HP3000 systems can be converted ! to the equivalent PA-RISC HP9000 by twiddling the firmware ! on the CPU card. Now why isn't there any fun medium-sized hardware like that pop up around here in CT? Does anyone know of any scrappers in this area? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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uVAX II vs. uVAX III memory

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

John --- I'm forwardeding this to the ClassicCmp.org mail list for you. Maybe someone there can help... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: John Maier ! ! ! I have in my grubby hands, a uVAX III (KA650) CPU board but ! the memory board (alas) was ! physically damaged by the original owner... ! ! Doing so research at http://vaxarchive.sevensages.org/hw/ ! they mention... ! ! uVAX II -- ! Do not try to use LMI memory modules intended for later ! MicroVAX systems (modules like the ! MS650-series, etc)! ! ! uVAX III -- ! ...or you can use LMI MicroVAX III memory modules. Do not try ! to use LMI memory modules ! intended for earlier MicroVAX systems (modules of the ! MS630-series, etc)! ! ! Why? I would love to upgrade my uVAX II/GPX from it's 0.9 ! VUP lumber to a spry 3.0 VUP.. ! :-) ! ! Additionally if I ever can find a 64Meg QBus memeory ! card...<john dreams> ! ! John Maier - Administrator ! Midamerica Internet Services ! 573-446-8881 ! http://www.midamerica.net ! ICQ# 38643380 ! Yahoo: toolboy1968 ! MSN: toolboy68 ! /=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=\ ! / Nothing great was ever achieved without ! / enthusiasm. --- Ralph Waldo Emerson ! /=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=\ !

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What DEC item are these from?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 16, Bill Bradford wrote: > Anybody know what DEC item these are from? I got a bunch of them > (at the time, in a little foam "holder" in a box) a few months ago > with a big batch of PDP-11 stuff, but my dog got ahold of it and > they're now all over a section of the carpet in my garage.. > > http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/bulbs.jpg > > Are they worth picking up and saving, or should I just get out the > vaccuum? These are PDP8 front-panel bulbs...also used in RK05s and many other things. Definitely save them. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Fwd: PDP 11/03 LSI-11 and minicomp available

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Hi, gang, I may not be on the list any more, but I still get the occasional offer of old hardware. I've got two this week that one or more of you may be interested in. Please note the attached message, and PLEASE RESPOND DIRECTLY TO THE ORIGINAL SENDER!!! I don't have the equipment, and I am in no position to act as a go-between. Here's the first one. *********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** On 16-Jan-02 at 08:12 Debra Voeller <debbily(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >I have a working (?) pdp 11/03, RX02-dual floppy drives, oodles of books, >installation software, original 'printsets', VT320, VT100 and LA180 >impact printer that needs a new home. >I can't get a prompt but everything powers up....could be that the monitor >is not set right. > >I tripped over your homepage and thought you might be interested. I'm in >Washington state (Pierce County). Do you know anyone interested in buying >this? *********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** FWIW, her description puts her near Tacoma, WA. She did send me a .jpg of the system which I will E-mail to anyone who requests that I do so. The second item is a mid-to-late 80's vintage minicomputer in a nice three-foot high tabletop rack. It is currently at Connector World Supply just north of Seattle. It was working fine the last time it was powered on less than a year ago, and as far as I know is a freebie, available to whoever makes arrangements to pick it up first. Contact: Connie Richard, (206) 789-7525 during normal business hours. Tell her I sent you. Thanks much. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)

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Old Cross References, etc.

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 16, 21:25, Marvin Johnston wrote: > > How important is it to keep old catalogs, cross-reference data, > component buyers guides, data books, data sheets, etc.??? I've collected > a LOT of the above from about the mid 70's and while not ready to > dispose of it yet, I am really curious what others on this list think > about keeping such stuff. As for some examples: > > RCA SK Cross Reference/Replacement Catalog > 1974 IC Master Those are definitely worth keeping, if you do repairs or build your own hardware. > 1976 C&K Switch Catalog Probably. > Printouts of instructions for CP/M utilities, programs, etc. Depends on the programs. The common ones aren't hard to find docs for on the net. If you have the software, keep the printouts. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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ALL ChargeCard 286 MMU

by mhstein＠canada.com

With all this talk about 286 PCs, anybody interested in an ALL Chargecard hardware memory manager to turn your PS/2 50, 60, or 30/286 into a 386 (sort of)? Only fits PGA, no LCC or PLCC adapters; brand new, never tested (didn't/don't have a PGA 286 board). mike

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What DEC item are these from?

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Anybody know what DEC item these are from? I got a bunch of them (at the time, in a little foam "holder" in a box) a few months ago with a big batch of PDP-11 stuff, but my dog got ahold of it and they're now all over a section of the carpet in my garage.. http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/bulbs.jpg Are they worth picking up and saving, or should I just get out the vaccuum? Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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2 IBM PS/2s, DC/MD area

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/16/2002 11:13:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, vance(a)ikickass.org writes: << On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, bill pointon wrote: > there is also the 30 with the 80186 - also isa -- billp I know. He had made the observation that all Models 40 and below were ISA, and I was pointing out the oddball exception. The PS/2 L40SX is Microchannel. Peace... Sridhar >> well don't forget that neat little PS/2E ISA machine. I lucked out and got two cheaply in their boxes simply because the person that had them didnt understand MCA error codes. You can get lots of PS/2s cheaply that way. -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

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Stupid Apple //c question

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/16/2002 9:38:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, rcini(a)optonline.net writes: << I know that this is going to sound silly, but what version of DOS/ProDOS is designed to work with the //c? Or, should I ask if there was a special system disk for the //c? I have ready access to DOS 3.3, ProDOS 1.9 and 2.something. >> any of them will work. Prodos will give you a /RAM volume since the computer has 128k. -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

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Stupid Apple //c question

by rcini＠optonline.net

I know that this is going to sound silly, but what version of DOS/ProDOS is designed to work with the //c? Or, should I ask if there was a special system disk for the //c? I have ready access to DOS 3.3, ProDOS 1.9 and 2.something. Thanks. Rich Rich Cini Collector of classic computers Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ /************************************************************/

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OT: Earthlink customer support

by vaxman＠earthlink.net

I got my first invoice from Earthlink yesterday for two months worth of service. The only problem was I didn't have the modem for the first two weeks of it, so I thought I shouldn't have to pay for it. I sent an EMail to Earthlink explaining the situation, and requested a credit of $12.99 for the unused portion of the month, and they replied today with the information $13.00 had been creditted to my account, and an apology for the inconvience it caused. <WOW> Clint is happy today... PS If anyone wants to switch to earthlink, mention my email address and I get a referral bonus, to be repaid in spare bits of junk er um antique computer parts :)

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IBM R390 IPL woes...

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 16, Colin Eby wrote: > I appreciate you're coveting... but the system's not > mine to give. It belongs to CSC, and was left-over > from our Y2K group. They had just stuck it in a closet > and forgotten it. As the resident UNIX guru at the > time it was on my inventory. When I moved out into the > field I claimed it as a workstation. Since nobody knew > it existed, and since it was way past the 3-year > depreciation cycle, there weren't any objections. > Unforunately CSC doesn't allow for any internal > purchasing because of liability issues. So I couldn't > buy it off them. Bummer. :-( It's cool that you get to hack on it, though! > I too would like to get a hold of a board. The system > here at the office is the 591. That's the earlier > board design. There are three different versions. I'd > love to get a hold of an MCA board like this one > because I have equivalent RS6000 hardware in my > private collection. I could easily host such a thing. > The later boards are, I believe, PCI, and in two > differnt versions. I've never seen the board appear on > auction sites -- and I'm worried that anyone who did > have one, might not know it, since it just sits in > otherwise ordinary gear. The best I can tell you is > watch out for specific models of hardware and hassle > the seller to see if they omitted the board. The > models are the PC330 and PC500 intel systems. And in > RS6000 they've used F50, 591 and a few 390 systems. I've seen a few go on eBay. They get...expensive. Painfully expensive. > >From what I've learned so far -- you won't hear much > about these systems in the open systems community. If > you go trolling through vendor and support > organization sites, stick to the mainframe folks. I'm > afraid that's as much of a brain dump as I've got on > sourcing these boards. If you do find a source, please > pass the information on. I'd love to add one to my > collection. Until then I'll have to deal with > Hercules. Not that this is a bad thing. Hercules on a > decent piece of hardware is considerably faster then a > P390 board. The one I've got is all of 72mHz clock > speed and 128MB RAM. You could build a much more > substantial LINUX based system to host a mainframe > operating system. Yes but then I'd have to deal with a PeeCee. And Linux. Thanks for the info though. :-) As I mentioned in other mail, I have a P/390 here (PCI version) that I haven't gotten running yet. The PeeCee hardware is doing what it does best...being an inconsistent pile of monkey turds. I hate PeeCees. I think I'm just gonna have to get an S/390 and deal with the electric bill. Might as well do it right. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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PDP-8/S

by bfranchuk＠jetnet.ab.ca

I am forwarding this interesting bit of news from the PDP-8 newsgroup that John has to say. John Curnow wrote: > > Anyone interested in buying my PDP-8/S? > > I only have the computer itself, with no peripherals. > It is complete and seems to work. I did toggle a small program into it about > ten years ago and it worked fine. It is circa 1966 and the serial number is > 127. > > Contact me by email if you are interested. I can send you some pictures and > more details. > > Cheers, > John Curnow > jcurnow(a)mondenet.com

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IBM R390 IPL woes...

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 16, Boatman on the River of Suck wrote: > And you would have to deal with the lack of I/O and Memory bandwidth of a > PC. A P/390 will *stomp* a PC running Hercules for most of the popular > mainframe applications (eg. DB2, CICS, COBOL, etc.). What he said. :) > Or you could get yourself a PCI-based RS/6000 and not have to deal with > any of the PC bullshit. That's what I'd really like to do, but I can't afford one right now... :-( -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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IBM R390 IPL woes...

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 16, Boatman on the River of Suck wrote: > > > As I mentioned in other mail, I have a P/390 here (PCI version) that I > > > haven't gotten running yet. The PeeCee hardware is doing what it does > > > best...being an inconsistent pile of monkey turds. I hate PeeCees. I > > > think I'm just gonna have to get an S/390 and deal with the electric > > > bill. Might as well do it right. > > > > Well, if you decide to dump the P/390, I would like to buy it. > > Get in line. 8-) Hey, no fair, I GOT the darned thing from you! ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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IBM R390 IPL woes...

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 16, Eric Dittman wrote: > > As I mentioned in other mail, I have a P/390 here (PCI version) that I > > haven't gotten running yet. The PeeCee hardware is doing what it does > > best...being an inconsistent pile of monkey turds. I hate PeeCees. I > > think I'm just gonna have to get an S/390 and deal with the electric > > bill. Might as well do it right. > > Well, if you decide to dump the P/390, I would like to buy it. Ahh, thanks for the offer, but I've gotta keep this one. :-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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OT? Apple Stylewriter problems (longish)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 16, 21:12, Tony Duell wrote: > > Towers is excellent, and I'd not be without my well-thumbed copy. I > > Agreed. I also have the FET/MOSpower (==MOSFET) one, and the > op-amps/comparators one. All are very useful. I once saw the > microprocessor Towers book, but I didn't think that was very useful -- it > didn't give pinouts for the devices, for example. I only have the transistors and the micros ones. I do find the latter quite useful, as I can often look up the pinouts somewhere else, or sometimes I just want to know what type of device some chip is. > Where do you get them from, and how do you order them (given that the > titles are in Japanese)? They were either 99p or 199p each from CPC. IIRC they were on one of their special offer sheets that they send out to account customers every weekend, about 18 monthsor a couple of years ago. Probably a one-off special as I don't see them in the catalogue :-( The transistor one is about 5/8" thick, 8.3" wide x 5.8" high, and it says "'97 The Transistor Manual" on the front in Eglish, and something in Japanese underneath. On the back it has two barcodes (one EAN, the other JAN?) 978478983614 and 1923055013001, and "ISBN 4-7898-4361-0 C3055 Y1300E" (the 'Y' is actually a Yen symbol, but in deference to the ISO-8859-impaired I've approximated :-)) The other two are obviously part of the same set. > I tend to wait for a new one to come out and then hunt around for a > bookshop selling off the old ones at a much-reduced price. OK, so I'm a > little out of date, but that's not too much of a problem most of the time > (after all, much of the stuff I work on is out of date too). York isn't blessed with many of the right sort of bookshop, but that seems like a good way to get them. Mine are pretty old, around 1980. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Free: NeXT N4000A monitor

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 16, 17:25, Arlen Michaels wrote: > BTW, does anyone know if there's an internal adjustment to brighten these > up? It seems that a lot of the surviving NeXT mono screens have gone quite > dim. The cathode in the CRT used in the 4000A loses its emission ability over time. There's nothing you can do about it. The usual techniques for tube rejuvenation don't seem to work. The later 4000B monitors use a different tube which doesn't seem to suffer in the same way. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Stuff I want to get rid of...

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

Got some misc stuff I don't want. A few boards pulled from an old PBX: One marked `LC 96B V 1' and `SYSTEM CONTROL', one marked `LC 78B V 1' & `PROCESSOR' (AMD 8080A CPU!) & one marked `LC 95C V 4' & `MEMORY 1' (two banks of 9x uhhhh 1484?, one bank of 8 wide ceramic 24 pin DIPs). The dang thing weighed a ton, so I couldn't get the whole chassis, but I pulled the more interesting cards. One Sperry PC 384KB memory upgrade, new in box, (handwritten) serial # 47y791. Yours for shipping from zip 43211, or it goes to the trash. ja ne! Bob

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Free: NeXT N4000A monitor

by pb＠Colorado.EDU

>BTW, does anyone know if there's an internal adjustment to brighten these >up? It seems that a lot of the surviving NeXT mono screens have gone quite >dim. > >Thanks, >Arlen Michaels I believe that there *is* a pot inside that can brighten the monitor, but I also believe that this is a common and well-known (at least on the NeXT news groups) problem with the original monitors: they eventually get very dim--more or less too dim to use. This happens, I seem to remember, after only about 5,000 hours or so. It is a function of the phosphor, it is not prevented by dimming the monitor, and it was rectified in later versions of the monitor. (The details behind all of that information escape me. I suspect you could post a request at comp.sys.next.hardware, and you'd get a reply from someone who knows it all right off the top of his or her head.) Good luck! PB Schechter

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(Fwd) [HP3000-L] HP3000 Equipment

by sieler＠allegro.com

Hi, Seen on another list... The HP 3000/922 is a PA-RISC system, running MPE/iX. It isn't supported by the PuffinGroup port of Linux. Just the computer is about the size of a 2-drawer file cabinet. ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Subject: [HP3000-L] HP3000 Equipment From: Dave Frandrup <dfrandrup(a)CO.BARRON.WI.US> Barron County has an old HP3000/922RX with one 571MB Disk Drive and three 670MB Disk Drives and 48MB memory. Two 2563 line printers and one 2564 line printer. If interested in any or all of the equipment, please call Dave Frandrup (715) 537-6314 or email davef(a)co.barron.wi.us. Dave Frandrup Dir Technology Mgmt Ctr Barron, WI 54812 ------- End of forwarded message -------Stan Sieler sieler(a)allegro.com www.allegro.com/sieler/wanted/index.html www.allegro.com/sieler

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Free: NeXT N4000A monitor

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

Since there are a few people into the NeXT machines on here, I wanted to offer this here. I've got an extra N4000A monochrome monitor that I wish to get rid of...and it's FREE! The only problem with it is that it is dim. Otherwise it works great. I've got another N4000A and a N4001, so don't need this additional monitor. Drop me a line if interested. It's just outside of Washington D.C. I'd hate to just dispose of it if nobody wants it but I don't have room enough for all the machines I want, much less extra monitors for all of them. Jeff -- Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File http://www.cchaven.com http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757

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68010 (was Re: Mac IIci)

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Indeed, the 68000 and 68010 pushed the same amount of data onto the stack, but the 68010 produced more different types of stack-frames than the 68000. If you wanted to speed up the ATARI-ST you could replace the 68000 with an 68010, but you needed to patch TOS. Otherwise the O.S. crashed. Nice was the fact that the 68000 and the 68010 are *pin-compatible*. I know, because my StarShip first ran on a 6802, then a 68000 and then on a 68010. I had to re-write a small part of the embedded OS that handles the stack-frame processing. Tight-loops (2 instruction) are cached. [My StarShip runs on a 68020 at 30 MHz. now] - Henk. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ethan Dicks [mailto:erd_6502@yahoo.com] > Sent: dinsdag 15 januari 2002 21:20 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: 68010 (was Re: Mac IIci) > > > > --- Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> wrote: > > On Jan 14, 14:56, Bruce Robertson wrote: > > > > > Yes, I seem to remember that with the 68000, there was an > interaction > > > with the Bus Fault signal... something to do with what > state got saved > > > on the stack; I don't remember the exact details > > After a bus fault, there was not enough information on the stack to > properly do an instruction restart from where the bus-fault occured. > > > Oops, I forgot about that. You're right; the 68010 saves > slightly more > > state on the stack than the early 68000. I have a feeling > that was fixed > > in later 68000; some traps save more state than others. > > Not as far as I know... the quantity of bytes pushed on the > stack should > be constant for a given member of the 68K family. A lot of > older software > for the Amiga that did things with the stack (debugging > tools, mostly) > assumed certain things relating to the stack - it became confused on > the '010 and up because the number of bytes did change for certain > traps (like bus error). I have the details at home, not with > me, in my > Motorola books, or I'd post them here. Eventually, people learned to > ask the OS what was going on, rather than paw through the stack > indescriminantly, kinda like when people got burned on the > first Fatter > Agnus Amigas - 1Mb of CHIP and 0Mb of FAST RAM - broke all kinds of > software that asked for a buffer of FAST RAM instead of > "fastest available > RAM". > > > You can't get 68010s any more, unless you can find old > stock somewhere > > :-( > > You can still get 68000s and 68020s. > > That's not surprising. Even when they were current, we had a > hard time > getting 68010 chips for our products. We paid $45 each for them at a > time when the 68000P8 was about $3 (eventually, I found them at a > surplus/overstock electronics dealer for $10). > > At the moment, I have dozens of 68000L8s and one tube of 68010P10s. I > hope I never have to look for any more 68010s. > > -ethan > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ >

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Alpha Naked Mini / QA country code

by cisin＠xenosoft.com

Is anybody able or willing to help them? Where does Qatar stand in current politics? (what do they want to do with that disk???) -- Fred Cisin cisin(a)xenosoft.com XenoSoft http://www.xenosoft.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:49:20 +0300 From: MICROSERVE <microgrp(a)qatar.net.qa> To: info(a)xenosoft.com Subject: Please Help Dear Sir, I have very important 8" Floppy Disk and I need to make 20 copies Duplicate the floppy have very Old System used in Alpha LSI Naked Mini (4/90) Manufacture by Computer Automation in 1976 And this system used for Training Shooting Range Please inform me if possible for any cost? Best regards, Adnan Khanfer MICROSERE Doha - Qatar, Po Box 22904 Tel: + 974 4438779 - 4438767 Fax: + 974 4438710 Email: microgrp(a)qatar.net.qa

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IBM R390 IPL woes...

by out2sea00＠yahoo.com

Dave -- I appreciate you're coveting... but the system's not mine to give. It belongs to CSC, and was left-over >from our Y2K group. They had just stuck it in a closet and forgotten it. As the resident UNIX guru at the time it was on my inventory. When I moved out into the field I claimed it as a workstation. Since nobody knew it existed, and since it was way past the 3-year depreciation cycle, there weren't any objections. Unforunately CSC doesn't allow for any internal purchasing because of liability issues. So I couldn't buy it off them. I too would like to get a hold of a board. The system here at the office is the 591. That's the earlier board design. There are three different versions. I'd love to get a hold of an MCA board like this one because I have equivalent RS6000 hardware in my private collection. I could easily host such a thing. The later boards are, I believe, PCI, and in two differnt versions. I've never seen the board appear on auction sites -- and I'm worried that anyone who did have one, might not know it, since it just sits in otherwise ordinary gear. The best I can tell you is watch out for specific models of hardware and hassle the seller to see if they omitted the board. The models are the PC330 and PC500 intel systems. And in RS6000 they've used F50, 591 and a few 390 systems. >From what I've learned so far -- you won't hear much about these systems in the open systems community. If you go trolling through vendor and support organization sites, stick to the mainframe folks. I'm afraid that's as much of a brain dump as I've got on sourcing these boards. If you do find a source, please pass the information on. I'd love to add one to my collection. Until then I'll have to deal with Hercules. Not that this is a bad thing. Hercules on a decent piece of hardware is considerably faster then a P390 board. The one I've got is all of 72mHz clock speed and 128MB RAM. You could build a much more substantial LINUX based system to host a mainframe operating system. Best wishes, Colin Eby Senior Consultant CSC Consulting __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/

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trying to identify this 68K-based board...

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Eric Chomko <vze2wsvr(a)verizon.net> wrote: > It is an ISA-16 card. It has a 68000, w/2 27128 EEPROMs, 16 1259-15 > RAM chips and Intel chips, 82586 and 8253-5. The rest looks to be > TTL, a couple of connectors and couple of crystals, 16 and 20 MHz. > It was made by Bridge Communications, USA, in 1987. And it has a > D-shell 15 pin (like a Mac video -2 rows of pins) female connector > on the back. Intel 82586 is an Ethernet controller, DA15S is the right connector for an Ethernet transceiver, and Bridge Communications got bought by 3Com in 1987. I think you've got an intelligent Ethernet interface of some sort. -Frank McConnell

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OT? Apple Stylewriter problems (longish)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 15, 22:54, Tony Duell wrote: > > >Read that as 2SB1243 -- which is not in 'Towers International Transistor > > >Selector'. Can you check that number, please. In fact, please post all > > >markings on the original transistors. > > > > I thought I did, unless there are more markings on the side against the PC > > board? I'll look again. > > Peter has already posted some info on this transistor. My 'Towers', > normally a good reference for obscure transistors, has let me down... OK, > it's not a particularly recent edition... Towers is excellent, and I'd not be without my well-thumbed copy. I suppose I should buy a newer one some day. However, it seems like every time someone in Japan or other some other parts of the Far east designs a circuit, they design or specify a new transistor for it -- a transistor that is almost identical to some existing device, but has with some minor, often trivial, tweak. I suppose it may save some corporation a fraction of a yen on each of hundreds of thousands of units. Or perhaps the way it works is that a designer says "I need a transistor with the following parameters..." and someone makes a batch to order rather than using an existing design (for which they have no stock, because of just-in-time stocking) and the made-to-order gets a unique number, more like a batch number than a type number. That's why I bought the Japanese manuals (there's one for FETs and one for diodes as well as the transistor one), and more particularly, why I posted the main operating parameters. There are probably dozens of relatively common types that could be used as substitutes for a 2SB1243. If you need one, it's just a question of looking in your favourite sales catalogue and going down the list until you see something close enough. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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ForSale/Trade: ADSL Modem & POTS line filter...

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Help! I just moved from West Haven to Hamden, but my SNET ADSL service didn't, err, can't. SO.... I have the ADSL equipment for sale: Efficient Networks (?) SpeedStream ADSL modem, and a filter/splitter that connects at the phone block in your basement! No need for filters at each phone... I would prefer to trade for a cable modem setup, (Comcast cable service); but won't turn down cash either ;-) --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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IBM R390 IPL woes...

by out2sea00＠yahoo.com

--- Norm Aleks <norm(a)docnorm.com> wrote: > Hi, Colin. I'm trying to get a more-current MVS to > experiment with on > Hercules. Is that what you found, or was it just > the AIX? Was it on > p390.ibm.com? Norm -- You're right about the site. It's ftp://p390.ibm.com. The site covers all the multi-platform systems, and not just the AIX variant. And what I was after were the "support files". In other words the IO channel drivers. IBM doesn't publish iso's for the Application Development MVS there. And I'm guessing mine is as old as yours -- Jan 1997. For me, as a mainframe newbie crossing over from open systems, the version's irrelevant. But good luck locating images. Thanks, Colin Eby Senior Consultant CSC Consulting __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/

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Punch cards, punch & mag tapes (Toronto)

by mhstein＠usa.net

Sorry, a little overwhelmed by all this at the moment; will get back to ya. Ethan, AIM65 stuff is ready to go. John, still waiting to hear what you need for the Cromemcos. Will be off 'Net till Monday. mike ---------------Original Message----------------- Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:32:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Punch cards, punch & mag tapes (Toronto) - --- "John R. Keys Jr." <jrkeys(a)concentric.net> wrote: > Has anyone claimed these yet ? If not I will take them. I tried to. Haven't heard back. Don't know who the lucky winner is, but I suspect several people expressed interest. - -ethan

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OT: FS, Metcal hot-air soldering iron

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Uhh, what? I sell stuff on eBay all the time, and I love it dearly. I think you're thinking of someone else. I've been the [perhaps lone] person *defending* eBay through many of those flame wars. When I'm being an "outspoken critic", it's usually about "suits" and how they've ruined my industry and are working on destroying society. Or about Microsoft and their crappy products that everyone seems to think are so great. Never eBay though, because I *like* it. :-) -Dave On January 16, Ian Koller wrote: > > > > Is this going to be another one of those ridiculously > overpriced eBay items you are such a regular outspoken > critic of? Or is this one different, because it's you > selling this time? > > > > Dave McGuire wrote: > > > > Hi folks. Sorry for the off-topic crosspost, but I figure there > > might be some interest here. > > > > I have a Metcal model PHAP-01 hot-air soldering system here, in > > near-mint condition, that I'd like to sell. I figure I'd mention it > > here before going to eBay. I'm looking to get maybe $350-400 for it. > > Anyone interested? > > > > -Dave > > > > -- > > Dave McGuire > > St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf > -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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OT: FS, Metcal hot-air soldering iron

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Hi folks. Sorry for the off-topic crosspost, but I figure there might be some interest here. I have a Metcal model PHAP-01 hot-air soldering system here, in near-mint condition, that I'd like to sell. I figure I'd mention it here before going to eBay. I'm looking to get maybe $350-400 for it. Anyone interested? -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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SGI Humor

by csmith＠amdocs.com

Ok, it's not quite on topic, but It's very funny... http://www.pueyrredon.com.ar/irix.htm Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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More DELLness & TRON! :D

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>DVD-ROM drives are cheap these days, and many of them allow you to >change the region at least once. I've been tempted to buy one or two >extras and set each one to a different region... Humm... thats an idea. Get two $40 DVD-Rom drives, set one to Region 1 and one to Region 2, install them both, and just use the right one for a given movie (most video cards will decode both PAL and NTSC, and usually do a far better job than a cheap external converter will). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Foonly F1

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>TRON was a Big project, costing over $18 million Man how times change... $18m for a movie... that might just cover Jeff Bridges pay these days. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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