- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 26, 21:10, Doc wrote: > What DO ya call that huge chunk o' rubber right behind the male end, > anyway? EMI filter. An interference suppressor consisting of a ferrite tube clamped onto the cable to reduce RF radiation. But I liked Dave's answer too. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Opus5 400PM/8000

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

I have 2 150MB DC6150 tape cartridges from Opus Systems Label 1: _________ Opus5 400PM/8000 5.3.2 Rev Q4 P/N 900-00269-001 # sysadm installpkg or load during the initial installation All SW Packages #1 of 1 --------- Label 2: ________ X Version 11 400PM/8000 Rev A2 P/N 900-00223-002 # sysadm installpkg All X11 Packages #1 of 1 -------- What the heck is it? Doc

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Favorite 5.25's

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 26, John Allain wrote: > Revealing my stupidity: Can any/all do RX50 > formatting? I realize one thing, that HD writes > on LD drives are suboptimal. Well, RX50s are 80-track drives, so a 360K drive won't do it...other than that, most should, I would think. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Need manual URL/hardcopy for HP Netserver LX Pro 6/200 server

by out2sea00＠yahoo.com

Russ -- Let me know if you need any other resources for this system. We're still using this model -- after four years of co-habitation, I couldn't know them much better. We have four or five of these, and one ultra-rare LXr-Pro8. I get around to doing a fresh build on them every 4 months or so. That's because they're part of our benchmarking equipment pool. So they get reconfigured very regularly. The performance engineering folks (myself included) use them. And they certainly do perform well, even if they are bordering on classic status. I understand you have a source for manuals already. So anything else you need, please let me know. One word of advice. I'd leave the RAM in. It's the RAM that keeps them running like much newer equipment, since there aren't that many applications that'll peg a quad, even an old one, they'll run best with everything resident in main. Second piece of advice, put a better video card in. There's an embedded one -- but it's a flicker-fest at anything higher than 800x600. Colin Eby Senior Consultant CSC Consulting __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/

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Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook"

by vze2mnvr＠verizon.net

Hello Pat, If you read these links, it gives other "perspectives" on the issue of sniping. I guess you don't like sniping, because you would like to get the best price you could for your items. This we do respect. http://www.geocities.com/phillipcreed/myths.html http://www.geocities.com/phillipcreed/ http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/supersniper/ But the ones who complain that they didn't win an item because someone sniped them, we have no respect for what so ever. No one ever lost an item because someone out bid them. They lost the item because they didn't bid the high bid utilizing the "proxy" bidding system. Period. These are people that want to blame others for their own failures which they themselves brought about. They seem to act like the world owes them something, when in reality, their failure is brought on because they are too cheap and selfish. They want what other people have, but are unwilling to give much of themselves to get it. A note to all. You'll win whatever item you bid on, if you put in the high bid while the auction is running, regardless of when that bid is placed. As for the ones that complain about prices of goods being sold on eBay as being so high, these people have been deemed unsuitable for employment in our organization for being too ignorant of commerce and economics. It's indicative of serious flaws in personality, attitude, and intelligence. Generally things on eBay often sell for a third to an eighth ( and sometimes even 1/25 ) of what they are actually worth, and we have hard data to prove that fact. So any that end up out of work, just know, we'll learn more about what you're really like by reading the messages you've posted, than we'd ever learn in an interview. And we do research prospective applicants in this manner. Thanks Google. Pat Barron wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Ian Koller wrote: > > I looked at it, then checked your "me" page, then gave up. > > > > If you want auctions that automatically extend, you have > > that option as a seller on Yahoo. > > I'm sorry that put you off; I've been thinking about toning down or > eliminating that section, but I haven't done anything about it yet because > this is a really sore point with me - it's particularly aimed at people > who run "outbid-bots", that track auctions and place bids in (literally) > the final 15 or 30 seconds of the auction, to ensure that the previous > high bidder has no chance to rebid. > > In a "real" auction, the auction generally continues until activity > ceases; if that's doable on Yahoo! Auctions (like the old Onsale.com > system, in which a bid in the last 5 minutes of an auction automatically > extended it), then that might be a better option for me. Though I haven't > listed anything there for a long time, because I've had the impression > that very few people use Yahoo! Auctions (as opposed to eBay).... > > Thanks, > --Pat.

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For:Pro's Only....

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

If you got that, I'm probably talking to you.... Is anybody interested in buying/trading for - Hardware: 1 Fortune Systems video console 1 Fortune Systems ASCII terminal 1 Fortune Systems keyboard 2 Fortune Systems floppy drives?? Full-height 5.25" with very strange latch 1 2 lb. bag of misc. cables 1 256k 32:16 RAM expansion, tagged defective Documentation: 1 For:Pro for 32:16 Installation Instructions 1 Introductuion to For:Pro 1 Fortune Systems Tape Streamer User's Guide {1} 1 Using Fortune Terminals 1 Fortune Interactive Terminal Emulator 1 Fortune:Word Operators' Guide 1 Fortune:Word Reference Guide 1 Fortune:Multiplan Professional Tools 5.25" Floppy Disks: 1-of-1 Fortune Diagnostic Disk {2} Process & Instrumentation Design Support Diskette v4.0 3-of-? For:Pro Cold-Boot {2} 3-of-3 Single-User For:Pro Release Level 1.7/J3 1-of-1 Multiuser For:Pro (Domestic) System Tools Series 1-of-1 Meet Your Fortune System Training and Education Series 1-of-1 Language Development Tools System Tools Series 1-of-1 C System Tools Series 1-of-1 For:Pro 1.7 Upgrade System Tools Series 1-of-1 Fortune Word - Promotional Software Not For Resale Release level 1.0/E3 1-of-1 Fortune Word - Promotional Software Not For Resale Release level 1.1/E3 1-of-1 Multiplan - Promotional Software Not For Resale 1-of-1 Multiplan Master - Promotional Software Not For Resale 1-of-1 Business Basic - Promotional Software Not For Resale 2-of-2 General Ledger - Promotional Software Not For Resale 1-of-1 C - GKS Beta Test Release level 1.0d/? 1-of-1 Tektronix (R) 401X Emulator 15-or-20 Unlabelled or illegibly labelled floppies. Apparently related to the Fortune stuff. {1} Software Documentation in box which should, but doesn't, contain 5.25" disks {2} P&ID floppy with printed or typed label. Label is identical to the Fortune Systems floppies except for the logo. {3} These are BASF floppies with handwritten labels Unless otherwise noted, all floppies appear to be the "official" distribution, with the Fortune Systems logo on the label. Floppies are NOT in great shape, mostly distorted and warped from heat or moisture. I'm guessing they're probably readable, about *once*. I'm selling/trading ALL this as-is. I don't have a 32:16 system unit (everything but...), so it's all untested. ***** Just so there are no misconceptions or misrepresentations, I am NOT a charitable organization. I spend a crapload of time and money on this hobby, and anytime I can make it turn a profit, I will leap for joy. ***** Doc

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Is this a IBM RT mouse?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 26, Doc wrote: > > The foreskin? > > DUDE! you made me scare my cat! > > Rolling around laughing, with VERY irate kitty glaring at me.... Sorry, couldn't resist. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Any interest in "Uptime: The Disk Monthly" diskettes?

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Is there any interest or reason to save these, or can I go ahead and reformat >them without fear of losing something someone on this list might want? If any of them contain the game "Iggy Igopolis", I would like a copy of the game (it was shareware, so you can safely just email me the game, I don't need the whole disk). My floppy with it has gone bad (it robbed a 7-11)... and I have not yet been successful in finding a new copy (but I did track down Captain Magneto which made me very happy) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Is this a IBM RT mouse?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Someone mentioned the RT mouse has two round buttons. I have had this mouse in my collection and have been wondering what it was for. Http://members.aol.com/innfogra/IBMMS1.JPG The connector is a 6 pin square. Can anyone ID it? If someone is interested it is available FSOT. Please contact me off list at whoagiii(a)aol.com. Paxton Astoria, OR I can supply a JPEG if there are any problems with the URL.

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 26, Bryan Pope wrote: > > My S/390's *hard disk* weighs *20 times* as much as me. 8-) > > O!.. Ok.. Do not drop them on your foot. > > These aren't the ones that are over a foot wide in a clear plastic? case > with a handle in the centre to carry or lock them in place? That would be *old* mainframe technology. This is *new* mainframe technology. What's that array, Sridhar? 2 or 4TB? -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Interact Model One cassette beg

by passerm＠umkc.edu

I was wondering if any of my fine fellow listers might have cassette software (especially BASIC, but would love to have anything) for the Interact Model One. Having acquired one of these, I'm interested in making it do something besides say "PRESS 'L' TO LOAD TAPE." If anyone has cassettes they'd be willing to dub for me, I would be thrilled to repay you in gratitude, some piece of 80's micro hardware or software _you_ might be looking for, or, of course, plain old cash for your time and tape. --Michael Passer

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Is this a IBM RT mouse?

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Http://members.aol.com/innfogra/IBMMS1.JPG > >The connector is a 6 pin square. Can anyone ID it? PCjr? Although, I am sure that is not the only IBM machine to carry square ports. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by CLeyson＠aol.com

In a message dated 26/01/02 14:22:32 Pacific Standard Time, ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk writes: > HP85s have 2 ways of chewing tapes, both fixable (normally). If the > optical EOT sensor fails, then it'll run the tape off the spool. Often > just cleaning the sensor will fix it. If not, then the electronics is not > that complicated IIRC. > > The other (and more common) way is for the drive roller to run to glue. I > have heard that silicone rubber tubing of the right diamter will fix > this. As I've got some other HP machines where this has happened (9825, > 9831, etc) I am going to have to investigate the exact methods of repair. > It's the old "drive roller turned to glue" problem. I need to fix a 9825 as well. I tried a few TV/HI-FI repair shops and asked "where can I get one of these or something similar ?" My question was followed by "Have you got a part Number ? " Grrrrrr :-( Chris

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Is this a IBM RT mouse?

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Innfogra(a)aol.com wrote: > Http://members.aol.com/innfogra/IBMMS1.JPG That looks like the RT PC mouse that I remember. I believe (based on my inventory) that the IBM part number is 00F2383. -Frank McConnell

24 years, 5 months

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SOL video monitor

by r.stek＠snet.net

I have a ProcTech pricelist dated January 1, 1978. They offer a Panasonic PT-872 TV-Video Monitor for $199. Bob Stek Saver of Lost Sols

24 years, 5 months

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Non-profit reselling

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Dave McGuire [mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com] > I can FEEL the love around here. Yep. Sooo.... I didn't tell everyone about my new VT131 yet. That's the ticket -- how about those classic computers? ;) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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BYAD CP/M disks

by donm＠cts.com

> > They are yours. What is your address? Paul, I received them - exceedingly well packaged - in yesterday's mail. Thank you very much. As a matter of possible interest, they contain the operating system (CP/M-2.20) and other associated programs for the BYAD PC/XT Z-80 card. Disk format is same as the old 8 x 512 sector PC-CP/M-86. - don

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6150 keyboard

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Well, I got irritated with the keyboard (ever try to use vi without the Escape key) and jerked it apart. Very gently. 1) I'm certain that it's re-badged OEM, not IBM-built. All the screws, internal and external, are Phillips. 2) It's not a double membrane, it's rubber cups over a PCB, with foil inserts in the caps. The traces on the PCB were covered with unidentified goop. *Only* under the Escape key. I dunno. 3) It works now. 4) Thanks, Tony. Even though this one bore no resemblance to your instructions, sometimes *thinking* you have a clue is as good as the real thing. On to TCP/IP, NFS, and maybe a game or two of hangman. Speaking of hangman, is it just me, or is the NetBSD port of hangman purely evil? Come on, now. "Prolegomenous?" Seriously, I've played hangman on a bunch of different Unices, and the recent NetBSD hangman is by far the hardest I've ever seen. Doc

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Sniing was Re: Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook"

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 04:28 PM 1/26/2002 -0600, Tothwolf wrote: > I do have a problem >with wannabe dealers messing up the local auctions by bidding things up >higher then they are worth, and then trying unsuccessfully to sell them at >extremely high prices on ebay. You haven't been to enough auctions. You'll get over it. :-) - John

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Wanted: manual for Toshiba T4800CT docking station

by pb＠Colorado.EDU

Hi. I'm wondering if anyone has any documentation for the docking station for a Toshiba T4800CT laptop. I'm embarassed to admit that I can't even figure out how to access the drive bay on the station. For those of you with extensive collections (or access to extensive documentation libraries), the part number for the docking station is PA2701U, and it's called a "Desk Station IV." Thanks in advance. PB Schechter

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Sniing was Re: Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook"

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 02:07 PM 1/26/2002 -0600, Tothwolf wrote: >What I am saying, is that I often see idiot wannabe dealers overpay for >*junk* at the local auctions, not even knowing what they are buying, all >the while thinking they can make a fast buck off of "suckers" on ebay. This behavior is self-limiting due to finite pocketbooks. We can't make the poor go away, and we can't prevent poor business sense. >Again, what I am getting at is ebay itself has spawned a whole new >generation of get-rich-quick idiots who buy up stuff at local auctions for >inflated prices and try to sell it at an even higher price on ebay. And that's all because you *can* make money buying low and selling high, depending on exactly what it is that you can become expert enough to acquire and sell. There's been plenty of times when I've bought something for $100 or less and sold it for $1000 or more. I may be getting old, but that's exciting. - John

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LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by CLeyson＠aol.com

In a message dated 25/01/02 18:11:34 Pacific Standard Time, vaxzilla(a)jarai.org writes: > > > Cmon, what could possibly be less valuable than an Apple ][+? A C64 > > > perhaps... > Apple ][ are not that common in the UK. To me an HP85 that chews tapes would be less valuable than an Apple ][ Chris

24 years, 5 months

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Z-100 serial ports

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

Please see below. > From: Don Maslin <donm(a)cts.com> > Date: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:55 PM > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Glen Goodwin wrote: > > > Although I have (I believe) all of the manuals for the Zenith Z-100 (not > > Z-100 pc), I cannot find any reference to the serial ports on this box. > > > > What are the addresses of the DTE and DCE ports? I'd like to write some > > assembly code to access these devices (under CP/M-86) but want to control > > them at the hardware level instead of making BDOS calls. > The overlay for MEX (CP/M-80) says that the modem port - presumably > DTE - is 0D8H. It does not mention the DCE port. Do both processors > share the same seriak and parallel ports? > - don 2nd question first -- yes, the same ports are used regardless of the MPU. 1st question -- found some info in the 2nd manual under "programming data" (I was looking for *hardware" data!): 2661 Serial A (Printer Port) 0E8-0EB 2661 Serial B (Modem Port) 0EC-0EF Now I need to know exactly what the control and data addresses for these ports are. Maybe the first number is data and the second control, or the other way around? I'm not familiar with the 2661 -- any pointers? Hey -- I'll bet Tony knows! Thanks again, Glen 0/0

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LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 24, 15:34, Jeffrey S. Sharp wrote: > Lawrence LeMay said: > > Cmon, what could possibly be less valuable than an Apple ][+? A C64 > > perhaps... > > Old printer ribbons. No, you can re-ink printer ribbons :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Sniing was Re: Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook"

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 09:09 PM 1/25/2002 -0600, Tothwolf wrote: >I was quite sick when I saw the seller trying to sell these off to >uneducated buyers on ebay for $50 each. If someone had indeed bought one >at that price, they would have been tempted to try to repair it when it >did not work. People qualified to work on these units would tend to be >educated buyers and not even consider paying $50 for a dead unit. What are you suggesting? That a warning label might've saved their lives, or just saved them from parting from their cash? Or that the auctioneer's job is to accurately represent the state of each gizmo, as opposed to saying "all sales as-is and final", which is far easier and still manages to attract plenty of buyers. (This reminds me of the old marketing joke "If Company X was in charge of Kentucky Fried Chicken, they'd call the product "Hot Dead Chicken." Just to keep it on-topic, I know this joke was repeated quite often in the Commodore market over the years.) The whole point of an auction is that it's a good way to maximize profit while making a big pile of junk disappear. Evaluating the goods (accurately or professionally) and warning the buyers about nitpicks isn't profitable. Maybe someone buys dead UPSes to recover the lead in the batteries, who knows. And auctions are great fun for game theorists and economists, many of whom have made careers and won gold medals for determining nifty phenomena such as the way that the winner tends to overpay. - John

24 years, 5 months

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RT 6150 Lives! (Long!)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 26, SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com wrote: > > Wouldn't it be easier to run diags? > > It might, but I don't have any. The big pile of RT disks that I got > from BSD Bob were mistakenly left in a storage locker in Maryland, and > I won't be able to get to them for at least another month. :-( >> > > I think I have a diagnostice floppy somewhere that I found in a stack of > unrelated floppies. Talk about serendipity! I guess regular old diskcopy > would work on them. Doc put some images up on his FTP server for me. Thanks for the thought, though. :-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Probably OT : Atari anti-aircraft game....

by jos.mar＠bluewin.ch

I don't know if it is valuable and/or collectible, but for those interested in old games consoles : a complete looking 1975 Atari anti-aircraft game is available at a local Salvation Army shop. (Local is : Zurich, Switzerland . jos Dreesen

24 years, 5 months

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Craftsman (was: Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook"

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>It was quite a shock a few years ago, when I started seeing Craftsman >tools for sale at OSH (Orchard Supply Hardware) OSH is a Sears company, so is I believe "Village Hardware", they are their Home Depot competition stores. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 5 months

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6150 keyboard

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/26/2002 3:39:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, vance(a)ikickass.org writes: << > Well, I got irritated with the keyboard (ever try to use vi without > the Escape key) and jerked it apart. Very gently. > > 1) I'm certain that it's re-badged OEM, not IBM-built. All the screws, > internal and external, are Phillips. IBM's keyboards were always built by Lexmark. Recently (a few years ago), Lexmark spun off their keyboard operation, which was swalllowed up by Unicomp. This keyboard was built before IBM spun off Lexmark, which means it was built by IBM. > 2) It's not a double membrane, it's rubber cups over a PCB, with foil > inserts in the caps. The traces on the PCB were covered with > unidentified goop. *Only* under the Escape key. I dunno. The mechanism in IBM keyboards is called a "buckling spring mechanism". >> I've two RT keyboards. One is buckling spring and the other has quiet keys and seems like a cheaper version. -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

24 years, 5 months

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RT 6150 Lives! (Long!)

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/25/2002 11:30:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, mcguire(a)neurotica.com writes: << On January 25, Doc wrote: > > I think there might be a tape controller board of some sort (with no > > drive) in mine. I will crack it open and find out. Do you know what > > the FRU number would be on the 6157? > > Wouldn't it be easier to run diags? It might, but I don't have any. The big pile of RT disks that I got from BSD Bob were mistakenly left in a storage locker in Maryland, and I won't be able to get to them for at least another month. :-( >> I think I have a diagnostice floppy somewhere that I found in a stack of unrelated floppies. Talk about serendipity! I guess regular old diskcopy would work on them. -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

24 years, 5 months

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BBC Micro

by CLeyson＠aol.com

I recently stumbled upon some schematics for a reverse engineered BBC Master Video ULA. Dammed if I can find the URL. Anybody seen these schematics ? Chris

24 years, 5 months

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Comark

by alanjones＠pgen.net

Can anyone help with a circuit diagram for a Comark 1905 insulation tester? makers won't help. Alan Jones

24 years, 5 months

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OT? Yahoo Free Listing Day

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Franchuk [mailto:bfranchuk@jetnet.ab.ca] > Now where all the female programer types when you want them? :) Very difficult to find. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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QFP soldering

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

Richard Cini wrote... So, here's the stupid question...how do I solder these things? Do I hold the iron parallel or perpendicular to the package leads? The board is pre-tinned, but I should I also tin the QFP leads? Neither. The best way to home solder these things is to use solder paste and a toaster oven, there's an article on www.seattlerobotics.org on how to do this. If you must use a soldering iron use a large bit (4.5 to 6 mm) and run along the edge of the tinned section, not quite touching the pins, and allow the solder to wick into the joints. Don't worry about solder bridges, these can be removed later with solder wick and a good flux. If you make a complete mess of it remove the chip using a hot air gun then clean the board with solder wick removing any left over flux with solvent and try again. Also use a soldering iron of at least 45W with a temperature controlled bit. The easiest way to practice is with the chips on scrap PC motherboards ... see they do have a use 8^)= Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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RT 6150 Lives! (Long!)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 25, Doc wrote: > > > Wouldn't it be easier to run diags? > > > > It might, but I don't have any. The big pile of RT disks that I got > > from BSD Bob were mistakenly left in a storage locker in Maryland, and > > I won't be able to get to them for at least another month. :-( > > ftp://ftp.dementia.org/pub/rt/diags.[1-3].gz > ^^^^^ list-box... > dd floppy images. Ahhhhhh, most excellent. Thanks! :-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

24 years, 5 months

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RT 6150 Lives! (Long!)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 25, Doc wrote: > > I think there might be a tape controller board of some sort (with no > > drive) in mine. I will crack it open and find out. Do you know what > > the FRU number would be on the 6157? > > Wouldn't it be easier to run diags? It might, but I don't have any. The big pile of RT disks that I got >from BSD Bob were mistakenly left in a storage locker in Maryland, and I won't be able to get to them for at least another month. :-( -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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More E&S Research...

by root＠diablonet.net

Hi everyone! I've been doing a little bit more research on this strange Evans and Sutherland computer that turned up at the University of Michigan property disposition warehouse, and I thought I'd mention some of it here in case anyone were interested. I was doing a little more determined Web-surfing, and, as far as I can tell, this machine was not an ES-3, but an ESV-3. With that information in hand, I turned up some of the following information. * These machines were based upon the MIPS R3000 microprocessor. They seem to have been as powerful (at least processor wise) as an SGI Personal IRIS 4D/35 or a lowball (R3000) SGI Indigo. I'm still quite curious as to their graphics capabilities, though. How would these have compared to the Elan graphics system that SGI would have been selling around this time? How about GTX/GTXB/RealityEngine graphics on the larger Power Series and Crimson machines? Any ideas? * They seemed to commonly have between 32 and 64 megabytes of RAM, and between 500 to 1000 megabytes of hard disk storage installed (probably) as standard. * They ran an operating system called ES/OS, which as far as I can tell was some sort of UNIX derivative that also ran the X Window System. It doesn't look like it got much farther than version 2.x. * They seem to have been quite popular in the chemical modeling field, and were also used in X-Ray Crystallography (sp?). So, I'll see what I can do about going back there and picking it up perhaps sometime next week. Unfortunately, the University wants $100 for it, and as I said earlier, the system is lacking the keyboard, mouse, and monitor (and I imagine that these do not show up very often), so I'll still probably be deliberating this purchase a little bit. Interestingly enough, I found a mailing list message in Google's cache (circa 1999) soliciting a source for replacement E&S ESV systems from the University here as one had broken... I wonder if this was it! :) If it is, it sure gives one a feel for the speed of the property disposition pipeline! Ah, yeah, I'll take a look at how much they want for that DG dual floppy drive as well. I wouldn't imagine it's going anywhere quickly. :) Kind regards, Sean -- Sean Caron http://www.diablonet.net scaron(a)engin.umich.edu root(a)diablonet.net

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VAX enthusiasm taken to the next level

by vaxzilla＠jarai.org

I haven't seen this sent to the list yet even though it's a bit old at this stage. It's on-topic for certain, but if you have any issues w.r.t. vintage and contemporary computer erotica, I suggest you skip over this message and move on to the next. http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?itemid=19252878 In some recent discussions with Kibo, we'd agreed that any fetish which can be conceived by human intelligence, most probably exists. The above represents one I speculated would exist, but I think this qualifies as the first example of it I've seen. I've read about the student "art film" done with SAIL and an "attachment" to a robotic arm that system controlled. Also of note, I did e-mail her to ask what OS she was running on the VAX. Apparently the system isn't hers (points deducted). She doesn't know what OS it has on it (points deducted), and she believes it isn't even an operational MicroVAX-II (even more points deducted). I mean, sure, having the naked woman option with your VAX is great and all, but if the VAX doesn't actually work then what's the point? I believe she programs as well, so this is relevant to one of the other threads here about female programmers... And I do mean it's RELEVANT though certainly not representative-- at least not based on my experiences. -brian.

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Apple IIc+ boot disk for DOS3.3

by JHat385375＠aol.com

I saw your message about an boot disk dos for apple computer i have a power computer that apple own my boss try to load another os on to the computer and now it does not power up with a system on it can you tell how to get a boot disk.

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RT 6150 Lives! (Long!)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 25, SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com wrote: > Mine runs AIX 2.2.1, but just in mono and I need a 6157 controller card so I > can use my tape drive. I think my RT has a 286 development board in it and I > have the software to run it still wrapped up. I might have to power it up and > see what i've been missing. I think there might be a tape controller board of some sort (with no drive) in mine. I will crack it open and find out. Do you know what the FRU number would be on the 6157? -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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RT 6150 Lives! (Long!)

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/25/2002 6:28:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, mcguire(a)neurotica.com writes: << On January 25, Doc Shipley wrote: > There are numerous refernces to the use of IDE drives in the RT > newsgroup. Although AIX actually will install in 70MB, it leaves little > room to play in. Plus, that one E70 alone was warming my house and > whining loudly enough to make my cats cry. Oh wow...I didn't know you could do that. I have a 6150 here (from BSD Bob) that I'd love to stick some more disk in. I will have to investigate this further. :) > I've been offered a copy of 4.4BSD/Romp for it, which I may try out. > I'd like to try AOS, but I can't find the full distribution, just the > tools, updates, and diagnostic utilities. I'm running 4.4BSD on mine. It's a really neat machine. I just got a megapel board for it (thanks Gordon!) and now I need to find a tube and a mouse. >> Mine runs AIX 2.2.1, but just in mono and I need a 6157 controller card so I can use my tape drive. I think my RT has a 286 development board in it and I have the software to run it still wrapped up. I might have to power it up and see what i've been missing. -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

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RT 6150 Lives! (Long!)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 25, Doc Shipley wrote: > There are numerous refernces to the use of IDE drives in the RT > newsgroup. Although AIX actually will install in 70MB, it leaves little > room to play in. Plus, that one E70 alone was warming my house and > whining loudly enough to make my cats cry. Oh wow...I didn't know you could do that. I have a 6150 here (from BSD Bob) that I'd love to stick some more disk in. I will have to investigate this further. :) > I've been offered a copy of 4.4BSD/Romp for it, which I may try out. > I'd like to try AOS, but I can't find the full distribution, just the > tools, updates, and diagnostic utilities. I'm running 4.4BSD on mine. It's a really neat machine. I just got a megapel board for it (thanks Gordon!) and now I need to find a tube and a mouse. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Sniing was Re: Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook"

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Hi Guys, Can I throw in my 2 cents worth? ><snip> > >Hmmm. I guess then an xBox being sold at a price above the MSRP is not >'too high' of a price. Apparntly not. I've seen the same thing at flea-markets and other "live" events. BUT one of the things that affect this is the fact that the MSRP aren't the same eveywhere. I used to collect HP calculators but I almost never bought any from E-bay. Why? Because calculators that sold new in this country (USA) for say $250 sold for twice as much in Europe and other places simply due to the import tariffs that their countries charge. As result, I might be willing to pay say $150 for the same model used but someone in Europe is happy to pay $300 or more. Well above the MSRP. In short there are lots of factors that affect the price more than MSRP. It all goes back to the law of supply and demand. Where HP 9825s are common and cheap in this country, they're rare and expensive in Europe. Or the example of dead UPS's being sold for $50 a >pop. Did you ever stop to consider that the buyer might know somehing that you don't? Perhaps he is knowledgeable on that model and knows that 90% of the "dead" ones can be fixed by changing an internal fuse even when the manufacturer claims that "there are no user serviceable parts inside". Or a CISC AS/400 being sold for $140k. Sorry, but a lot of the time >things are available for much lower prices outside of eBay than they are >on eBay. I COMPLETELY agree! My personal opinion: E-bay is for people that are too lazy to search out there own bargains. Example: I've found TWO Altairs in the last three years. Both of them were FREE. OTOH I could have bought one from E-bay and paid a rediculous price for it. Don't get me wrong, there are some great bargains to be had on E-bay but I'm sick and tired of people complaining about E-bay prices. It just like shopping at Sears, if you think their price is too high THEN DON'T SHOP THERE. Ignorant people go around buying and selling things for much >more than they're worth on eBay. Wrong! It takes at least two bidders to push the price up. Therefore at least two people think that it's worth that much. I wouldn't pay $100,000+ for a Rolls-Royce but that down't mean they aren't "worth" it. > >I personally have no problem with bid sniping. I've done it myself a >number of times. The problem lies in the fact that some people do not >have enough FINANCIAL RESOURCES to be bidding 2x what something is worth >on eBay. That's fact of life, Get used to it! That's like complaining because you can't afford a Rolls-Royce and someone else can. As a college student that has just been laid off from my job at >Purdue (!) I know what it's like. Sure, there are a lot of good deals to >be had on eBay, but there are also plenty of bad deals. But no one is forcing you to buy those bad deals. So take the good ones and leave the rest. That's how you "win" on E-bay. Joe

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VAXstation newbie

by alan.pearson＠cramer.com

After 13 years off I'm finally going to get to play with a VAX again (the last system I used was an 11/785!) - I've found a VAXstation 3100, and it should be landing on my doorstep in the next week :) Happy happy happy! Finding a VAX that's small enough for "Al's Toy Barn" hasn't been easy, they don't seem to be that common here in the UK (UK classiccmpers correct me if I'm wrong, and please point me in the right direction ;-)). A couple of "newbie" VAXish questions: The box I'm getting is just that - no monitor/keyboard/mouse etc - I've read that you can use the printer port for the console so I'm planning using that. I'm not bothered about using DECwindows, console is just fine thanks ;-) Since I don't have any "real" terminals I've got various options.. the most likely is to use my ST's VT52 emulator (got to keep it "classic"!) - anyone tried this? Other options are to use the TERMINAL package on one of my BBC Masters, hook it up to the Linux box, or use the Windows terminal emulator. I guess I need a null modem cable to hook the 3100 up to whatever I'm using for the terminal, right? There's no backup media for the OS - any ideas where I'd get VMS on floppies? (It has a floppy drive, no CD). Or do I need to hook up a CD? Also, does anyone know what version of VMS shipped with the 3100s? Cheers Al.

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RS M100 wanted

by mhstein＠canada.com

I have a friend in AZ who is a sometime writer and would love to have an AlphaSmart: http://www.streettech.com/archives_hardware/alphaSmartPro.html Alas, her current finances aren't up to it, and it occurred to me that, especially after the recent bunch of free M100/102s, someone on this list might have a spare one they'd like to contribute and make an old woman happy in the meantime (good thing she doesn't read this list or she'd kill me). Anybody? And maybe a null modem cable to let her transfer .do files to a PC? mike

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Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook"

by pat＠transarc.ibm.com

I happened across one of these recently, and have no real interest in Microdata. So, I've listed the thing on eBay, check it out if interested... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1326034396 --Pat.

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REALLY Re: Mastersport 386SX

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Dave Mabry <dmabry(a)mich.com> > I used to have the computer he was referring to in the original post, a > Zenith MastersPort SX and it's AC adapter was an inline variety. Cords > on both ends. I never would have guessed it being called a wart. Having never seen the transformer/power supply/wart/whatever, I didn't know it was of the inline variety. Does anyone have the specs on this thing??? Glen 0/0

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Sniing was Re: Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook"

by CLeyson＠aol.com

In a message dated 25/01/02 12:57:14 Pacific Standard Time rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com writes: <snip> > But no one is forcing you to buy those bad deals. So take the good ones > and leave the rest. That's how you "win" on E-bay. > > Joe I totally agree with Joe. There are some nice bargains to be had and some truly awful crap. So far I think I'm breaking even on the bargain and crap score. As the Ebay novelty wears off I've learnt to more choosy in what I buy. Over time you learn who are the good guys, the re-sellers, collectors or enthusiasts making an honest living, and the bad guys who just jump on the band wagon and push up the prices. If you really want something there are lots of places to look besides Ebay. Chris

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SOL video monitor

by CLeyson＠aol.com

No. But I have a Panasonic WV-CM140 monitor if that rings any bells. Colour monitor composite video only, no RGB. Chris

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Sniing was Re: Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook"

by CLeyson＠aol.com

In a message dated 25/01/02 14:31:21 Pacific Standard Time, bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca writes: > Well tell me, I would like to know what other on-line places are there > to look for older equipment. > BTW, I'm located in the UK so Ebay.co.uk is very poor in terms of choice. 'Ebay dot com' on the other hand is a totally different ball game so for you it is like one stop shopping. As an example - on one day there were thirty (yes three zero) items listed under "Test Equipment" in the UK and 1500 on Ebay.com. Sometimes I go hunting for RF test gear and to be honest you guys on the other side of the pond are spoilt. The same applies to vintage computer equipment. All you get on UK Ebay is Spectrums, C64's and Atari 1600's, mostly games I must add. There is a good selection of Acorn hardware but that's about it. Early SBC stuff is rare (KIM and AIM65 etc). DEC and HP hardly ever appear on ebay.co.uk Many electronic test equipment dealers have surplus computer equipment for sale, especially in the US and Canada. It all depends on what you are looking for. I've often found that dealers haven't got the time to keep their websites up to date and often don't list many items. If I'm looking for a particular piece of hardware or perhaps a service manual I find that an email sometimes gets a favorable response. Google is another option, and I often spend hours following links to sites that may have an item I'm looking for. In fact I sometimes spend hours following link to loads of other interesting sites just for the hell of it. It's like being let loose in a library for the very first time :-) I hope that's put things into perspective Ben. BTW if I was happy paying the postage and import duties then Ebay.com would be one stop shopping for me. Post Script: For books try Abebooks.com Best Regards Chris

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