- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:edick@idcomm.com] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher Smith" <csmith(a)amdocs.com> > > The BNC connectors do, indeed, carry composite video. > Yes, they do. In fact, I just saw one carrying DC power. It > was part of an > adapter at the other side of which were two banana plugs. > Don't ask me why. Well, I've taken a guess at what you're replying to... Let me know if I'm way off. :) I was referring to these specific BNC connectors on the Apple II. It's interesting, though, that someone would use BNC to carry power. On the other hand, there are some points where the huge variety of plugs available (which carry the same signal) is ridiculous. Sometimes I think the world would be better off using, for instance, banana plugs, for everything. (Don't cross the wires! -- unless you really mean it.) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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VT131 needs keyboard help

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 12:26, Christopher Smith wrote: > Another weekend project of mine has been working on a VT131 > terminal. The terminal seems to work fine when receiving data. > > The terminal always powers up with a "4" in the corner > (keyboard error?). Typing characters on the keyboard will give > no response from either the terminal, or the system to which > it's connected. The lights flash (all at once), and the speaker > beeps when power is applied to the terminal. No lights are ever > activated afterwards, though. > > Having taken apart the keyboard, it does have an empty socket for > a DIP. Anyone know what this is? I gave away my VT131 a few weeks ago so I don't know :-( > Is it possible that this is a "lookalike" keyboard? Did DEC make > different models for different VT100 terminals -- were they > compatible? If this is an authentic DEC keyboard, will it be > marked as such somewhere? If so, how? > > The key layout _looks_ like VT100, but... The keyboard is the same as that for a VT100. There are more setup options, but the only significant difference is that the sticker on the underside has more places to record them :-) My VT131 actually had a VT101 keyboard. > The reason I'm asking about the brand is that there was another > terminal at the junk yard, completely trashed, which looked like > a VT100, but had a completely different branding. I forget the > brand right off, but I'm afraid I may have picked up the keyboard > for the dead terminal, and that it may not be compatible at all. Maybe a Plessey terminal? I had two which looked just like a VT100 from the outside, but had different (Plessey-made) logic inside, and incompatible keyboards. > Failing a way to positively identify the keyboard, are there any > common modes of failure along these lines? > > Also, I'm guessing at this point that the terminal is in good shape. > Does anyone know where to get a keyboard? I vaguely remember something like a flashing "4" in the top corner of my VT131 if the keyboard wasn't connected. Maybe not exactly that, but something of the sort. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Sell [mailto:msell@ontimesupport.com] > Additional bonus points awarded if the only boot mechanism > was a 9-track > tape drive that required you to disconnect your dryer as part of the > boot-up process....... Even more if it requires some manual intervention in octal before the boot process can begin. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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IRIS Power Series power supply questions

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 12:17, Christopher Smith wrote: > Hi everybody, > > In preparation for my eventual booting of the IRIS Power Series > machine, I pulled the back off yesterday and inspected the power > supply, etc. [...] > The square-ish plugs should all be plugged in to the plug they > match. (I thought this one was pretty safe.) That would be my assumption too. > The three loose post-screws go to the three wires that were just > floating around loose (coming directly (more or less) out of the > twist-lok plug. These screws are labeled N~, L~, and <earth > symbol> > > The Earth pin on the twist-lok plug is the longer one. (made sense > to me, but I can't find anything to confirm it...) > > The L~ probably stands "Live" or something like that (?) > > The N~ probably means "Negative" L is Live (or Line in the US), N is Neutral. > The positive lead on the twist-lok plug is the one that has the > breaker on it. > > Given that logic: > > The L~, being positive, should be attached to the wire with the > breaker in it. Yes. > The wire connected to the long pin on the plug should be connected > to the <earth symbol> connector. Yes. The reasoning is that the earth connection should always be the first one made and the last one broken in normal connection/disconnection. > The other wire should be connected to the only loose-screw left. > > There is further evidence in the way the wires were bent, which > suggests that this is all correct. > > Has anyone see these things before, and can possibly confirm this? Yes. The live wire is always the one with the switch, breaker and/or fuse, unless it's a two-pole breaker (one pole for live, one for neutral) of course. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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HPIL ISA card

by pcw＠mesanet.com

Whilst rooting through a junk box looking for something else, I found this HP ISA HPIL interface card 82973-60001. Free for shipping... Peter Wallace

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What's an Intel Series 90?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

above. It looks like some kind of memory system for VMS and possibly others. Joe

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Need source for high current HP type (with dimple) 14 or 16AWG 110vac power cord

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 9:28, r. 'bear' stricklin wrote: > I brought home a pair of SGI Onyx RealityEngine2 systems yesterday, and > had just sat down to see if I could determine how much effort it would > take to locate power cords to fit them. Then I see that Russ has done my > homework for me. Nice! One in each pocket, was it? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Pertec controller

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 28, John Allain wrote: > Ciprico Tapemaster Pertec tape controller. > I don't know what bus it is, VME or whatever > but here's a details: > 6 1/2" x 12" overall > 43 pads at 4mm each > a 1+ inch space, then > 30 pads at 0.1 inch each. > > Doesn't fit anything I have so it's yours for shipping. FYI, this is a Multibus-I card. It was commonly used in Sun-2 systems, and some older Sun-3 systems with VME<->Multibus adapters. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Sell [mailto:msell@ontimesupport.com] > Oh! And don't forget - requires you to shut off other less critical > electrical applicances in the house, things like > "refrigerators" and "air > conditioners"...... > > : ) > > Sorry, this was *way* too much fun...... ... and even on-topic. :) How about: Your handheld electronic organizer has more RAM... There are enough light-generating components on the system to allow one to read comfortably in an otherwise dark room. You must wait until winter to run it, and open the windows to cool the room off (since you can't run the air conditioner at the same time. The boards' form factor is something on the order of a complete "large" modern desktop system. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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C3-SI

by dogas＠bellsouth.net

> > OSI bus is 12bit address and data. > > err... 20bit address, 12bit data... > > ;) > - Mike: dogas(a)bellsouth.net

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Wanted: DEC Lisp PAK

by wlewis＠mailbag.com

Oh, I've spoken to the good folks at Encompass and Montagar. (No-one directly at Compaq has ever replied to my emails.) There is apparently an Intellectual property issue that prevents them from including the old DEC Lisp in the free list. It also has to do with the fact that DEC stopped shipping the product in 1993. Hence, I'm trying to see if I can find someone with the old piece of paper so that I could convince Compaq to let me transfer the license to me. I'm just a nut who would like to legally run some antique software. As for faking the license, I don't know of anyway to hack out the PAK system... > William, > > Is http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/ and the list of products your > problem? - Indeed, I cannot see LISP there, but they won't want you to > fake a license in order to make the software run, will they? ;-) > > Did you talk to them and mention that several other programming > languages are part of the hobbyist program? > > Andreas > > William Barnett-Lewis wrote: > > > > Longshot, but someone here might have one or know where to find one. (snip) > - -- > Andreas Freiherr > Vishay Semiconductor GmbH, Heilbronn, Germany > http://www.vishay.com William -- You better watch out What you wish for; It better be worth it So much to die for. Courtney Love

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Bell & Howell Apple II update II

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] > On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Christopher Smith wrote: > > It's working guys. Thanks a lot for all of your help. > > In the interest of public information: > > The BNC connectors do, indeed, carry composite video. > Can THIS finally put to rest the assertion that BNCs were not used for > video?? Well, you don't have to convince me. ;) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Caster?? (was: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 28, Chad Fernandez wrote: > I was under the impression that big systems usually had casters. Don't > the big Vax's have wheels? Vax 6000, 7000, and 8000 series? They certainly do. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Caster?? (was: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] > I was under the impression that casters were only for very lightweight > stuff that was intended to be movable by one person without a > forklift, or > even a dolly. You're right. That should have been "at least" casters. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Searching for old DEC 12V frontpanel bulbs

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

I'm restoring some pre-TTL DEC stuff (R and W series logic) and I need a handful of front panel bulbs. Unlike the later bulbs with a plastic base and strong wires to solder to the PCB or to plug into socket pins, these are like a kernel of corn, with two fine wires coming out of the glass envelope at a slight angle with no supports of any kind. Some of the bulbs have burned-out filiaments. Many of the ones I need to replace have broken wires externally. I am going to attempt to solder new wires to the stub, but I don't expect the attempt to be an overwhelming success. I might try a harder solder so that when I put them back in the frontpanel PCB, they won't give way when I put enough heat on the other end to install them. About all I know about these bulbs is that they are fed a nominal 12VDC >from the W-series driver boards. The front panel itself is literally just a PCB and a bunch of bulbs; no active circuits (unlike, say, the front panel of a PDP-8/L). Testing should be easy - feed 12VDC at a few mA to each set of fingers and check the bulbs, one by one. If DEC was underfeeding these bulbs to extend their life, I would expect that the bulb should be rated at 14V-16V. I measured slightly over 12VDC in circuit, but well within a 5% tolerance. I have checked the online manuals I could find, but no mention is made of the nature of the bulbs for 1966/1967-era DEC equipment. Any ideas? -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by msell＠ontimesupport.com

Oh! And don't forget - requires you to shut off other less critical electrical applicances in the house, things like "refrigerators" and "air conditioners"...... : ) Sorry, this was *way* too much fun...... - Matt At 11:56 AM 1/28/2002 -0600, you wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matthew Sell [mailto:msell@ontimesupport.com] > > > Additional bonus points awarded if the only boot mechanism > > was a 9-track > > tape drive that required you to disconnect your dryer as part of the > > boot-up process....... > >Even more if it requires some manual intervention in octal before the >boot process can begin. :) > >Chris > > >Christopher Smith, Perl Developer >Amdocs - Champaign, IL > >/usr/bin/perl -e ' >print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); >' > Matthew Sell Programmer On Time Support, Inc. www.ontimesupport.com (281) 296-6066 Join the Metrology Software discussion group METLIST! http://www.ontimesupport.com/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er...

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Not really 10 years - but a classic anyway

by rmeenaks＠olf.com

Hi, I picked up a VFX1 virtual reality headset from ebay at a killer price. Now the problem with the VFX1 is that the interface card is limited to only 640x480x256 colors, whereas the VFX1 helmet can run in 16bit or truecolor. To get stereoscopic mode, the VFX1 uses interlaced video to send even lines to one LCD and odd lines to the other LCD. What would it take to tap the VGA output and somehow determine which lines are even and which lines are odd and feed it to the helment directly? This is similar to the way a TV works. Searching though the net yielding the following hack: http://www.lpc.ufri.br/~dmendes/new_page_1.htm (use altavista to translate from Portugese) But he feeds the same signal to both LCDs thus stereo is lost. Any comments? Tony?? Ram -- ,,,, /'^'\ ( o o ) -oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------- | Ram Meenakshisundaram | | Senior Software Engineer | | OpenLink Financial Inc | | .oooO Phone: (516) 227-6600 x267 | | ( ) Oooo. Email: rmeenaks(a)olf.com | ---\ (----( )-------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/

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Need source for high current HP type (with dimple) 14 or 16AWG 110vac power cord

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 16:43, Matt London wrote: > Here in the UK they go by the canocial name "Kettle Plugs", as the higher > current (15A?) version is most frequently found at the end of powercables > for electric kettles (you know, those things for heating water). > > The name is frequenly extended to the 5A version as well (the one everyone > is familiar with) > > Also in common usage is a "hot to cold cable" :&) I'm sure everyone here > can figure that one out. Actually the standard connector style was originally rated 6A, and has since been uprated to 10A (UK). The type with the notch was originally 10A, and the distinguishing feature is that it is rated for a higher temperature, hence it's use on kettles (in the US it is rated at a higher current as well as a higher temperature). Hence the terms "hot condition" and "cold condition". If you look through the list archives you'll find some other information about this, which various people posted last year. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Any AMIGA users?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Cameron Kaiser [mailto:spectre@stockholm.ptloma.edu] > Heck, there's even a 1581fs for Commodore 1581 3.5" disks. Really? I knew of the drivers that run 1541 drives through the serial port, but hadn't heard of a native FS for anything of the sort. :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Plea for HP2100S help

by aek＠spies.com

I'll check the boards from Sam in the next day or so. I've also sent a msg to Crisis to see if they have 2000 firmware for the MX

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by msell＠ontimesupport.com

Additional bonus points awarded if the only boot mechanism was a 9-track tape drive that required you to disconnect your dryer as part of the boot-up process....... - Matt At 10:22 AM 1/28/2002 -0600, you wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brian Chase [mailto:vaxzilla@jarai.org] > > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Roger Merchberger wrote: > > > > Hell, *everything* I do is fast -- Winders & Linux! > > [[ahem... I have a > > > dual-processor Athlon MP 1600+ -- dual SCSI, dual LAN, > > etc... so I realize > > > this isn't a fair fight... ;-) ]] > > > You're not gonna impress anyone on this list with that candy-pants > > quiche-eating system. You can start to get our attention by get a > > computer that weighs more than you. Or barring that, we'll respect > > you more if your system doesn't have floating point instructions, > > or an integer divide, or even an integer multiply. > >Hear Hear. Though, I may listen when Athlons have casters and a >respectable console firmware with "deposit" and "examine" commands, at >least. Bonus points if you can't get them to run windows should your life >depend on it. > >Regards, > >Chris > > >Christopher Smith, Perl Developer >Amdocs - Champaign, IL > >/usr/bin/perl -e ' >print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); >' > Matthew Sell Programmer On Time Support, Inc. www.ontimesupport.com (281) 296-6066 Join the Metrology Software discussion group METLIST! http://www.ontimesupport.com/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er...

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WTF? (was Re: Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook")

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Ian Koller <vze2mnvr(a)verizon.net> > I looked at it, then checked your "me" page, then gave up. > > If you want auctions that automatically extend, you have > that option as a seller on Yahoo. Ian, thanks for pointing this out. For the group, here's a snippet from Pat's Ebay "me" page: [begin snippet] I reserve the right not to honor any bid made during the last 2 minutes of one of my auctions. Also, I maintain a list of everyone who has ever "bid sniped" me on any auction that I was a bidder on, and I reserve the right to not honor any bids on my auction items from any bidder on that list. [snippet ends] I don't have a lot of Ebay experience, but I was under the impression that it was a fairly level playing field, albeit one where "anything goes." If someone comes up against me with a faster machine and a faster connection, then I may be sniped. Oh well. This guy carries grudges and does not appear to be a trustworthy person to deal with. I'll look more closely at "me" pages in the future. Sheesh! Glen 0/0 > Pat Barron wrote: > > > > I happened across one of these recently, and have no real interest in > > Microdata. So, I've listed the thing on eBay, check it out if > > interested... > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1326034396 > > > > --Pat.

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Plea for HP2100S help

by west＠tseinc.com

A while back my HP 2000 Access TimeShare BASIC system went down due to memory problems in the IOP (a 2100S). I thought the problems were in the core boards or the XY drivers, but just yesterday noticed that the main memory controller card (Data Control, 02100-60011) was introducing parity errors into a known good set of cards. So I suspect that many of the 8K core stacks I thought were bad, really werent and it was the data control board all along. So.... I wanted to ask if any of the list members had the following: Either 1) An HP 2100A or 2100S cpu that they would be willing to sell me or 2) An HP 02100-60011 Data Control card that they would be willing to sell me While a data control board is all I really need, I would certainly entertain buying someones 2100 cpu if it's sitting on a shelf as it would be extremely helpfull to have a spare set of the cards that make up the cpu section too. After all, the cpu is pretty much useless without the data control card anyways. Of course, I'd be perfectly willing to trade as well as buy if I have something people are interested in. Thanks in advance if anyone can help! Regards, Jay West

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Schneider AG bankrupt

by Hans.Franke＠mch20.sbs.de

It seams like the Schneider AG, once famous maker of the CPC Series Computers (well, OEM of the Amstrad CPCs) and later on of more or less IBM compatible machines (in the beginning less later on more :) is finaly bankrupt - in an as hoc notice the company declared they will officialy stop bussines and file an 'Insolvenzantrag' today. http://lib-o-mat.feedback.de/cms-public/schneider/presse/technologies/1076.… Schneider stoped to make computers some years ago, but was still a name to know in A/V Electronic. Tey own a real lot of patents around modern Display technology, digital recording and HDTV. Especialy their relativly new Laser projection system ins unique. Well, there goes the hope to get cheap laser systems soon. Gruss H. -- VCF Europa 3.0 am 27./28. April 2002 in Muenchen http://www.vcfe.org/

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 27, William Donzelli wrote: > What I meant was that the control for a 2311 in an 1131 is the cheap > kludge - one shots, delays, and the like - when compared to the "real" > controller, the 2841. This control unit was very complex - probably more > so that an entire 1130 system. > > I have no real engineering data (Big Blue Binders) on the 2841, but it > actually would not suprise me is the 1131 or 1800 was the processor inside > (or maybe a modified version). While we're on the subject of IBM big iron, does anyone here know offhand what type of interface and protocol the 3290 plasma display terminal speaks? Also, does anyone know the part number of a keyboard that will work with it? Thanks, -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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HP87XM

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Hi folks. I unearthed an HP87XM from my storage area and have been thinking of firing it up as a little diversion. Can anyone point me toward any programming reference info? Also...what are my mass storage options on this machine? It's got an HP-IB interface, and I've seen lots of HP-IB drives over the years...but what were commonly sold with this machine? Thanks, -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by fmc＠reanimators.org

ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote: > The 2225B was the original battery powered unit (runs off 6 sub-C NiCd > cells in a special HP battery pack [1]). It was designed to be used with > portable computers and calculators (HP41, HP71, HP75, HP110). The only > problem is that there is no way to fix a paper supply to it. Presumably > you're supposed to take a stack of fanfold paper, the printer, the > printer stand, and the HPIL cables around with you. Then find a desk to > set the stand and printer on, feed in the paper and print something. Printer stands to go with Thinkjets? Luxury! Where I worked at the time we didn't buy them, not even for the HP-IB ones that pretty much stayed where they were. Most folks either stacked the paper somewhere behind the printer and dealt with the resulting loss of desk space and/or mess of tangled supply paper, printer paper, and cables; or kludged a stand out of an empty cardboard box. > Quite honestly I've never had to print anything in a location where > there's a desk but no mains supply. But anyway... It saved you having to fuss with the wall wart until you ran the battery down. But you're right, we had a couple HP-IL Thinkjets to go with a couple 110s and people who used the 110s mostly didn't bother with the Thinkjets -- they were either using the 110 to dial up the 3000 from home and didn't need a printout, or they were doing some work at home that they would bring back the next day and could print on an HP150. -Frank McConnell

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IBM 5362 Update

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 27, Colin Eby wrote: > More information will be forthcoming, sometime next > weekend -- probably whether anyone cares or not. I I care! I plan to get a System36 someday. Got any pics up yet? -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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REALLY Re: Mastersport 386SX

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Douglas Taylor <taylor(a)cem.nrl.navy.mil> > It turns out I have two Zenith Data Systems 'SuperSport' labtops, one is an > 8088 model and the other is a 80386/SX 16 (I think), the last one is called > a 'SuperSport SX'. They use the same external power supply, 16.5 VDC 2.5 > amps. Well, the laptop is marked "11 VDC" but the connector is odd -- looks similar to an S-video connector. The unit doesn't belong to me and I've only seen it once, so it might not be exactly the same as S-video. Glen 0/0

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SGI R3K Indigo parts available

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

(they wwere released in '91, so they meet the ten-year rule..) I've got a metric buttload of SGI Indigo R3K RAM (4meg and 2meg modules), framebuffers (LG1 8bit) and five actual *systems* for sale/trade/etc. I've also got ten 3.5" drive sleds for R3k/ R4K Indigos. Email me if interested. Sorry, but I'm out of keyboards and mice. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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TRS-80 manuals online

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

I haven't seen this mentioned here before so for those of you interested in the TRS-80 manuals, someone has put a bunch of them online in PDF format at the following address: http://www2.asub.arknet.edu/wade/hardware.htm Jeff -- Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File http://www.cchaven.com http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757

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LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by fmc＠reanimators.org

ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote: > I think I've managed to find at least one genuine HP thinkjet stand. But > you're right, most people made their own (out of plastic sheet and metal > rod, normally). We were on a budget, and we did a lot of printing on our HP 3000s, so there was a near-constant stream of available empty boxes. Sometimes we'd even get paper in boxes with sturdy tops that could be easily fashioned into Thinkjet stands. > I doubt that wall wart [1] (it's that little HP 8V 3VA unit) could supply > the printer continuously. Which means that on long print jobs the battery > pack is running down, even if the charger is plugged in. Which, in turn, > means there's a maximum length of file you can print on the HPIL thinkjet > :-(. No, it means you run the battery down and then are disappointed to find that plugging it in doesn't bring it back to life right away. Nobody ever reported that, but like I said most of our users just didn't bother with the printer. > I must say I've been very impressed with the HP82169 HPIL-HPIB interface. > It's pretty much plug-n-play for most applications :-)). Imagine a Portable Plus sitting there formatting an HP 7963 (I think) HP-IB disc drive through one of these. It will do it, and then it will let you use the whopping 20MB or so that its version of MS-DOS can handle. -Frank McConnell

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by bwit＠pobox.com

>in Monte Sereno, Calif." So he may still be around. Switchboard.com >only found five Tramiel in CA but no Jack, and I don't remember >his sons' names at the moment, but One was Sam I believe. Regards, Bob > >Now, is Gould still alive? > >- John > >

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Need source for high current HP type (with dimple) 14 or 16AWG 110vac power cord

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 27, Tothwolf wrote: > > There are three "standard" IEC power connectors...there's the one > > we're all used to, the one with the dimple (higher current) and a > > larger square one (still higher current). > > There are also ones for 240V high current gear. Maybe these are same same > as the square one you mentioned? My SGI 210S machine uses one of these > cables to connect the main PSU to the power distribution box. The power > distribution box uses a 240V 30A twist-lock power cord. The main PSU The square ones used on the deskside Challenge and Onyx systems are 120V. I've never seen a 240V version, but then everything I've done with 240V has been twist-lok connectors. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 27, Tony Duell wrote: > I must say I've been very impressed with the HP82169 HPIL-HPIB interface. > It's pretty much plug-n-play for most applications :-)). Hey, wait a minute...that might solve a problem for me. I have a time-critical need for an HPIB thinkjet, and mine is in storage a thousand miles from here. I have an HPIL thinkjet here, though, and an 82169A HPIL-HPIB interface. Can I use that interface to connect my HPIL thinkjet to the HPIB output of my scope (HP 54111D)? -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Battlebot vs. PET

by jss＠subatomix.com

I'm watching Battlebots at the moment, and I just saw a demonstration of a blade-spinning bot. The demo involved shredding a Commodore PET to bits. I'm not much of a Commodore enthusiast, but I was quite taken aback. Note to self: not everyone in the world thinks like us. -- Jeffrey S. Sharp jss(a)subatomix.com

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Battlebot vs. PET

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/27/02 5:51:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com writes: > It's too bad they didn't try that on Grid! I'll bet that it's magnesium > case would have put up a good fight. Or else took the BattleBot with it > when it caught on fire! That would have been fun to see too! > > Joe > > No doubt! I still have a GRiDcase 3 in the magnesium alloy case. I have heard stories about the army dropping these from helicopters and dusting them off -n- starting them back up again. They have to weigh 30 pounds and they are built like a brick. The one I have came from retirement from the water conservation dept field officer. After *years* of continued service there isn't a dent in it or a scratch deeper than the paintjob - and there aren't many of those! -Linc. In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right... Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.

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IBM 5362 Update

by out2sea00＠yahoo.com

Folks -- Just a little update on a project I had posted the list about.... ... when we last saw our hero he was expecting the arrival of a bouncing baby S/36. Alright -- so it's really a teenager, and bouncing it hardly appropriate.... And he was worried about getting documentation and SSP Disks. Here's the news. The system's here -- and I've cleaned out the cobwebs, microvac'ing one card gingerly at a time. I found the maintenance manual -- under the case where IBM put it >from day one. The display station arrived (costing more than the server). Power was applied and two wonderous things happened: First, the lights *didn't* dim. This flat only has a 10A service and the machine's rated at 10A ( not to mention the other beasties sharing the aforementioned amperage). I had visions of that mammoth disk grinding into life while the neighorhood was plunged into darkness. I realize there are three phase 240 V devotee's on this list. I exhort them to understand my newbie thills at this minor first achievement, and not scoff outloud. Second, the silly thing actually IPL'd. I don't of course have a valid account for it. And so I've been hunting for installation media or hacking instructions. I think I've located the latter, but may end up requiring the former anyway. The diagnostic utilities have been partially removed from the fixed disk -- I suspect this was a space saving ploy. So some of the applications required to read the raw disk and seek the password file aren't available to me. For that I will need at least the diagnostic disk. Please volunteer suggestions on acquiring one of those (8" of course). Saddly this was a much as I've achieved. The second effort at an IPL failed -- and I'm still trying to track down the SRC cause. I'm not begging for help on that one just yet, though once again -- the diagnostic disk would be helpful. Please, please volunteer suggestions on acquiring one of those (8" of course). More information will be forthcoming, sometime next weekend -- probably whether anyone cares or not. I figure I'm entitled since at least my babbling is squarely on thread (and who knows, maybe of use to someone browsing through the profit/non-profit/useless classic/dual-athlon posts for a reference to retro-machines someday). ;->~ No that was not an open-flaming-season invitation. Just a good hearted jibe. Your's in 16bit brotherhood, Colin Eby Senior Consultant CSC Consulting PS -- Anyone have a spare left shift key for an IBM P70. I'm afraid I missing one, and this keyboard's somewhat unique to the model. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com

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Wanted: DEC Lisp PAK

by wlewis＠mailbag.com

Longshot, but someone here might have one or know where to find one. I'd like find a DEC Lisp PAK that someone is willing to sell/trade/give me. It seems there is no one at Compaq who is able/willing to assist and they have an IP issue with putting it on the free software list. Hence, transfering a license appears to be the only way to get that software running. Thanks, William -- You better watch out What you wish for; It better be worth it So much to die for. Courtney Love

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Apple II boards

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:edick@idcomm.com] > only things I'm likely to keep will be the PSU's. It might > be well for you to > learn about the Apple-][+ before running out to get various > add-on's, so you > get the "right" stuff as opposed to a wierd assortment of junk. Think so? :) I imagine you're right. My question, though, had more to do with what kind of nifty stuff you can get to hook up to it. I have only worked with relatively "vanilla" Apple IIs, so I have little knowledge in that area. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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IBM 3101 Dip Switches Configuration

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 24, Doc wrote: > > The problem is that the IBM 3101 don't establish communication > > with the Linux system. The 3101 show one "Line Check 2" message > > that talk about the comm.line, I suppose. The cable used is one > > normal serial cable. > > If by "normal serial cable" you mean a standard port-to-modem cable, > that is most likely your problem. You need to use a null-modem serial > cable with a terminal. That depends *completely* on the terminal. Several even have both DTE- and DCE-wired connectors. My standard rule for dealing with an RS232 in-yer-face is to plug it in without a null modem and see if it works...if it doesn't, then plug in a null modem. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Need source for high current HP type (with dimple) 14 or 16AWG 110vac power cord

by rhblakeman＠kih.net

Need a power cable for the Netserver, they got one with all of the machines they bought for resale so I have to locate one. It's a standard PC type (HP) plug on the server side except that it's got a dimple on the side opposite the angled corners and it's either 16 or 14AWG due to the 12A draw of the server. I also assume it to have a different plug, not sure though. I'm sure that other applications use the same thing with all the heavy servers out there and that someone has an aftermarket source or has a few ratholed with no immenent use for it/them. HP has theirs listd for US as 8120-5395 but is no longer available (go figure - no power cord and you have a useless server). I really don't want to chance grooving a standard 18AWG cord and watching the fire dept as they hose my shop and new server down. I just checked JDR and Jameco - Jameco lists a standard cable at 14AWG but no real picture of the end, just a generic photo/figure. Now it's time to dig out the Mouser and Digikey catalogs - might find the HP end that I need, I have plenty of heavy duty power cables with regular female outlets (some 12AWG) that I can use. In that case I could even wire it direct or to 220 (autoranging/adjusting unit). Have to research a little I guess.

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Is this a IBM RT mouse?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 26, Doc wrote: > Based on the fact that the keyboard cutout of the RT's back panel is > shaped like the (huge) insulator on the interface, and the mouse in the > picture has a (huge) insulator [my terminology fails me here; sorry] > that matches the mouse port's cutout, I vote it's an RT mouse. > > What DO ya call that huge chunk o' rubber right behind the male end, > anyway? The foreskin? -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Somebody (or more likely a group of people) need to compile a catalogue >of spare parts. Saying that the idler from a JVC.... video recorder has >the following dimensions (diameter, thickness, tyre width, etc). And that >the motor from a Panasonic CD player is 6V, with the following >dimensions. And so on. So that you can attempt to find parts that will >fit machines that nobody seels spares for any more... I have a "belt checker" from MCM electronics. You place the belt around one pin, then slid the other pin until the belt is sitting between them with no tension. It tells you the size of the belt. Then there is a ruler to measure the width, and a picture chart that shows style (square, round, whatever). When you have all the info, there is a chart on the back with MCM part numbers for the matching belt.... only down side... more often then not, they no longer carry the part listed on their checker... and they don't seem to have a list of compatible parts they DO carry... fortunalty, their master catalog has a list of belts and tires by size. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Need source for high current HP type (with dimple) 14 or 16AWG 110vac power cord

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 27, Russ Blakeman wrote: > Need a power cable for the Netserver, they got one with all of the machines > they bought for resale so I have to locate one. It's a standard PC type (HP) > plug on the server side except that it's got a dimple on the side opposite > the angled corners and it's either 16 or 14AWG due to the 12A draw of the > server. I also assume it to have a different plug, not sure though. I'm sure > that other applications use the same thing with all the heavy servers out > there and that someone has an aftermarket source or has a few ratholed with > no immenent use for it/them. This is a standard high-current IEC power connector. They're used on several models of MicroVAX, several larger Cisco routers, and lots of other things. They shouldn't be too hard to find. Someone who carries Cisco supplies will have them. I think the 7513 uses these, in particular. > I really don't want to chance grooving a standard 18AWG cord and watching > the fire dept as they hose my shop and new server down. I wouldn't worry too much about this. Use an ammeter to check the current draw if you're really concerned...but I have a couple of DEC 4000/400 machines that have these power connectors, and they pull a whopping [measured] 3A. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Fwd: Datapoint 1500 with printer

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

Here's a system that I thought someone might be interested in. I received another email from him that suggested it also had dual 8" drive cabinets with it, as well as including images of it >from a flyer or book. I'd take it in myself but do not have the space for it at the moment. If interested, please reply directly to the sender. I can provide the images to anyone that wants them, as well as his phone number. Jeff >Status: U >Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 20:08:37 -0800 >From: John Valentine <john.valentine(a)verizon.net> >X-Accept-Language: en >To: jhellige(a)earthlink.net >Subject: Datapoint 1500 with printer > >Jeff: > >A friend of mine has a Datapoint 1500 with 160 cps printer. He is >looking for a home for the Datapoint. He was going to put it on ebay, >but we thought we would check the antique computer sites before doing >it. > >Are you interested? He lives in Fairfax, Virginia. > >John Valentine -- Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File http://www.cchaven.com http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757

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New Finds in Houston

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Well took some time off the job hunt and move to check out some of my old hangouts and found something I have been looking for, it's a working Vectrex in good shape with one controller and no games but the built in one for $25 at a local thrift. I have been watching these go high on eBay and figured I would not be able to get one anytime soon. I also picked up some game cartridges for the 2600, Virtual Boy, Game Gear, Jaguar, and some of the newer machines. The wife is making me hold off on buying until I start working again so I have not gone to any of the auctions here yet. There are 2 auctions here in Houston that you can find good deals at , one is only 2 days a week and the other is everyday. That's it for now keep on computing.

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TSU05 Docs?

by Andreas.Freiherr＠Vishay.com

Hello, does anybody out there have the docs available for the TSU05 controller board used in PDP-11s or VAXes with UNIBUS to connect to the DEC variant TS05 of the Cipher F880? The board is M7455, and I am looking for the meanings of the DIP switches. There must be CSR address and interrupt vector, each made up by several individual switches, but in addition to that, an "extended features" switch and one for "buffering". Thanks in advance! Andreas -- Andreas Freiherr Vishay Semiconductor GmbH, Heilbronn, Germany http://www.vishay.com

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New on Ebay - Worth checking out

by CLeyson＠aol.com

Commodore PET 2001, BBC B and Master, C64, VIC20, C+4, Apple ][GS, Mac SE/30, Amiga 500, Amiga 1200 and Atari 2600 all in one aution. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1327699656

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Any interest in "Uptime: The Disk Monthly" diskettes?

by dan＠ekoan.com

Hello, While looking for 3.5" 720K discs to format on a HP-150 that I bought (yes, I sometimes actually pay money for classic computers, especially if they're Hewlett-Packard) from Bill Sudbrink, I came across a set of diskettes labelled Uptime: The Disk Monthly Volume 2 Number 1, for instance, is copyright 1986 by Viking Technologies out of Newport, Rhode Island, and has the following table of contents: Loan Calculator, Seasoned Clip Art, Stepping Out Demo, TermWorks, 3D TicTacToe, Hacker Interview, Biorhythm, Gone Fishin' DA, Little Black Book DA and Preview. I've got at least five diskettes with pre-printed labels, another half dozen with typewritten labels (e.g. "Uptime 2.8") and one labeled "The Best of Uptime, Brought to you by Macworld". Is there any interest or reason to save these, or can I go ahead and reformat them without fear of losing something someone on this list might want? Cheers, Dan www.decodesystems.com

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