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'70s microcomputer video connectors (was Re: Bell & Howell Apple II update II)

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> wrote: > I skipped over this thread because I saw Richard's name all over it, but > had I know this is what the argument was about, I could have pointed to > maybe 3 or 4 S-100 machines circa the late 1970's in my collection that > use BNC for video. Yeah. If only folks would keep the subject line in sync with what they're arguing about, scorefiles would work a whole lot better. I'm certain I've seen Processor Technology SOLs with SO-259 connectors. I think I've seen at least one with a BNC connector (and recall being surprised to find that it wasn't an adapter), but even if I have I'm not sure what this proves, SOLs and other '70s micros being purchasable as kits, and I'm sure at least some of the pre-assembled ones were owned by people of soldering skill who would change the connector if it suited them to do so. -Frank McConnell

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a VAX 11/780 in my garage ...

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi I am happy to announce my new baby: thanks to Jon Auringer of Astronautics and Merle Pierce of RICM, I have now a VAX 11/780 in my garage. Nice cabinet, with UNIBUS extension and a TE16 drive (looks nice but will I ever sacrifice a 25A circuit just for it?). Inside the VAX are KA780, UBA, MS780 (8 MB) and 2 MBAs. In the UNIBUS cabinet are two DZ-11, an INTERLAN BD-NI 1010, an M8716 (general purpose parallel), and a "CBV inc" (?) "MODEL-215 DMA Option" (two 4-wide boards with additional cable between them, to a 3-row D connector that looks a bit like my KLESI connector ... any idea what that might be?). More UNIBUS stuff: Datasystems LP 11/32 (parallel printer) a few grants (I need to learn UNIBUSology to understand how this can work.) I have spare DZ-11, just in case someone is in need. The last board is a 919 UNIBUS connector with long cable connecting into another drawer. That one is a backplane of unknown nature. It has one card to play the UNIBUS adapter, then a whole bunch of MEGATEK cards all together making up a frame-buffer and digitizer assembly that was used for a SCICARDS circuit layout system. Any shred of information about this would be appreciated. I don't think its UNIBUS or QBUS (no grants between the two clusters of cards.) Now, since I want to use this VAX to upgrade to an 11/785, I still need a KA785 CPU backplane. The worst beaten-up machine that you see in your neighbor's dumpster will do for screwing those pieces off. Unfortunately they are all too often forgotten. But I will first go with the 11/780 setup to gain the feeling for this class of machine. I have some documentation and probably a full set of diagnostics floppies. If anyone needs, I'll be happy to help out ... of course I first need to get the machine going to read the floppies. I am looking for info on the CI installation. I have the CI boards but no clue about cab-kit stuff. Was hoping to use parts of the CIBCA cab kit stuff to build one. I am also looking for a source of FP780 boards, mine had no floating poing option installed. I have the additional PSU, but no cabling for the PSU to the backplane and of course no FP780 cards. (I have FP785 cards, but they don't mix.) Finally I'm contemplating to build a dual processor machine if I can gather the parts for it. All I need is a CPU extension cabinet, a second KA780 or 785 CPU set and bits and pieces from other VAX 11/78x backplanes (SBI cabling, mounting stuff etc.) Apparently the Purdue guys have done that very successfully in 1981, and the only reason this wasn't an SMP setup appears to be that 4.1 BSD didn't do SMP. I would imagine that one could hack NetBSD to run a dual 11/78x. (That's not an 11/782 or /787, DEC did that differently.) So, if you have a spare extension cabinet, backplane, CPU boards, PSUs, card cage, card rails, cables, even the meanest nag, let me know. I am slowly switching from an ackquisition frenzie to maintenance mode. I seem to have most of what I can reasonably want and fit into my house. Now it's time to get it all going well. If I have things running by Summer, I'm thinking of throwing a VAX-Party. But it may take me until next year. I have given my 6000-520 and second SA600 and second HSC90 to Merle from RICM. I still have a TU81PLUS and a Dataproducts printer to give away. Probably also two terminals (VT 420 or so). regards, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] ! ! ! On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, David Woyciesjes wrote: ! ! > Doc --- ! > Well, if I have my way, my Gateway Handbook will be a ! > smaller Unix box... 10" x 6" x 1.5" ;-) ! > And it just squeaks by 10 years old too ( I think, maybe 9...) ! ! Funny you should mention that. I'm supposed to pick up a Handbook ! this weekend, to see about installing Linux without removing ! the drive.... I wonder, what kind/size drive is in there? Can it be upgraded? ! I'd *really* like to have a Handbook of my own. Classic or not, ! they're Way Too Cool (tm). Hopefully, by the time I'm done ! with John's, I'll be affluent again. It is a Neat Thing, isn' tit? Let me know if I can be of help. I have the null modem cable, floppy drive, 2 power supplies... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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TV tuner cards... [was: RE: hey"!]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! -----Original Message----- ! From: Gareth Knight [mailto:gknight@emugaming.com] ! ! Simon wrote: ! > Please say me, how it works! I want to convert my VHS into ! > mpg-Files, but it ! > doesn't work, only the Convertion of mpg to VHS works. ! ! For low-end conversion from VHS to MPG you can use a cheap TV ! card, such as ! those made by Pinaccle or Hauppage. This will allow you to ! view the analog ! signal of your video and record it as an AVI or MPG. I recommend ! http://www.tv-cards.com/ for more information ! -- ! Gareth Knight You know, I should pick up one of those, so I can have a display for my C128 (and Atari800) on my Win98 box. Finally put it to something useful... Seriously, is anyone else doing that? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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VHS to mpg, how does it work????

by csmith＠amdocs.com

-----Original Message----- From: Darthsimon(a)aol.com [mailto:Darthsimon@aol.com] > VHS to mpg, how does it work???? By converting the analog signal of the VHS recorder to a digital interleaved audio/video signal, and applying one of the MPEG compression algorithms. :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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TV tuner cards... [was: RE: hey"!]

by PasserM＠umkc.edu

I've done it with an Atari 2600. Works great (this was with a Gateway OEM Bt848 card.) --Michael -----Original Message----- From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:41 PM To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' Subject: TV tuner cards... [was: RE: hey"!] ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Gareth Knight [mailto:gknight@emugaming.com] ! ! Simon wrote: ! > Please say me, how it works! I want to convert my VHS into ! > mpg-Files, but it ! > doesn't work, only the Convertion of mpg to VHS works. ! ! For low-end conversion from VHS to MPG you can use a cheap TV ! card, such as ! those made by Pinaccle or Hauppage. This will allow you to ! view the analog ! signal of your video and record it as an AVI or MPG. I recommend ! http://www.tv-cards.com/ for more information ! -- ! Gareth Knight You know, I should pick up one of those, so I can have a display for my C128 (and Atari800) on my Win98 box. Finally put it to something useful... Seriously, is anyone else doing that? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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hey"!

by Darthsimon＠aol.com

Please say me, how it works! I want to convert my VHS into mpg-Files, but it doesn't work, only the Convertion of mpg to VHS works. Thank you for your answer, Roman (please not so hard english because I'm from germany....)

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VHS to mpg, how does it work????

by Darthsimon＠aol.com

VHS to mpg, how does it work????

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Not-so-OT point of philosophy

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Cameron Kaiser [mailto:spectre@stockholm.ptloma.edu] > running WinCE, connected via Citrix to a Win2K Advanced > Server host. There > are only a few "real" PCs there -- in fact, I think the Macs > might outnumber > them. > Before all of you cry off-topic, doesn't it seem odd to > anyone we're now > full circle and back to low-power terminals connected to a > "mainframe," now Since when is a "Win2k Advanced Server host" a mainframe? :) That aside, though, no, it doesn't seem odd at all. It's certainly The Right Thing To Do, WRT administrative overhead, and maintenance/repair cost. Strange, possibly that corporate america is starting to do the right thing. That's never happened before, to my knowledge. > Compared to the WinTerms, my old Wyse terminal looks so nice. Especially when you consider that it won't run windows. :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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a VAX 11/780 in my garage ...

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Gunther Schadow [mailto:gunther@aurora.regenstrief.org] > I am happy to announce my new baby: thanks to Jon Auringer of > Astronautics and Merle Pierce of RICM, I have now a VAX 11/780 > in my garage. Nice cabinet, with UNIBUS extension and a TE16 > drive (looks nice but will I ever sacrifice a 25A circuit just > for it?). Congratulations. Remember to put the stabilizers down before you open the doors ;) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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IRIS Power Series power supply questions

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Tothwolf [mailto:tothwolf@concentric.net] > White isn't a standard ground wire color. Maybe someone > changed something > in your machine at some point? Green is a standard ground > wire color in > the US, while Green with a yellow stripe meets international > standards. > I've seen blue/brown/white used for 240V ungrounded > twist-lock connectors > before, but I'm certain these machines require 120V at 20A. Again, that's just from memory, and I could be way off... > I'm going to attempt to uncover one of my machines today and snap some > pics for you. Great. Thanks. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu] > Well, if I have my way, my Gateway Handbook will be a > smaller Unix > box... 10" x 6" x 1.5" ;-) > And it just squeaks by 10 years old too ( I think, maybe 9...) I have been thinking about putting Minix on my Poqet PC, which would probably take the record. ;) I need a 2M SRAM card or two, though. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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VT131 needs keyboard help

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Ethan Dicks [mailto:erd_6502@yahoo.com] > I know it's not what you want to hear, but they really were > disposable. > Expensive, but disposable. I think people might have swapped switches > if they were physically broken (keystems snapping off or the leaves in > the switches getting bent from vigorous keytop insertion), > but I do not > have a single memory of anyone attempting electronic repair > 20 years ago. Not what I was hoping to hear, you're right, but it's what I was expecting. Thanks again. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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a VAX 11/780 in my garage ...

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>way cool!! 780, wow thats a cool piece of hardware! Indeed! >i have the installation manuals for the CI780. I can mail them to you. >Maybe when youre done if you send them on to whoever has been scanning >stuff in and putting it online, that would be cool.. There's a bunch of manuals up already at: http://208.190.133.201/decimages/moremanuals.htm I've already let them have a few more ... the install manual (or at least one version of it is in on its way there now IIRC). I'll dig out the numbers for 780 stuff in that pending batch - save you scanning something that's already been done! Antonio arcarlini(a)iee.org

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Passwords was: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Lawrence Walker [mailto:lgwalker@mts.net] > While passwords may be necessary in a business environment, > they are a real pain to home-based single users or following owners. They provide a little extra privacy from prying eyes. Of course, there is no password that can't be circumvented somehow, given access to the console, or, in a worst case, the system itself. > I mean, really, I'm in the middle of nowhere in northern Manitoba, > in a house where I live alone with a protective dog, and only hook up > to my ISP when I want to access it. Do I need this ? But even my You could turn it off. :) > NEXT demands a password and I had to do an extensive search to find > out how to re-do the original one. But of course the holy grail of > computer makers is that BIG contract. Any unix I've ever met will let you blank the password out... it will still ask for it, but you can just hit return. > complicate my life. I thought that that's one of the things > that computers > were for. To uncomplicate tasks and processes. On my computers Certainly they make higher math and weather modeling much easier. ;) > I DON"T NEED NO STEENKING PASSWORDS. > Windblows is the least of the transgressors. The UNIX type > are the worst > since they grew up in a security-conscious business environment. Lots of unixes even have an "auto-login" feature. > Right now after going thru a difficult Linux Red-Hat install > I can't find the > slip I wrote the password it insists upon, and must do a > fresh install. Actually you may be able to boot in single user mode without a password. Try it. > Fuck it, I'll reformat and look at another OS. > I believe that OS's or programs that don't provide > non-password access > should be boycotted. Well, again, just because it asks for a password, doesn't mean you've got to use one... > Do these guys really think that passwords can protect their data if > they don't have physical access protection ? We all know that even > supposedly deleted files can be ressurected. This is SUIT mentality > and they live in an imaginary world that they proclaim is the BOTTOM > LINE, realistic view of things. As MS has learned to it's > chagrin every > man-made "security" feature can be end-run by some bright young > hacker. Um, well, certainly any MS security feature can be circumvented by a blindfolded, dyslexic baboon. :) You are also right that there is a way around any security control, given physical access to the system. That really isn't the point of software security, though. I do realize that you are likely to be ranting due to frustration, but if nothing else, try blanking out some of your passwords and save yourself some of that trouble. :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Old 9-track tape data

by pb＠Colorado.EDU

Thanks--I have heard from 3 people in the general vicinity. The one who replied first will also probably get my old Rainbow, just "thrown in." I'm delighted with how "common" 9-track drives (and, presumably, ones connected to UNIX machine) seem to be. I haven't seen one in years, although I haven't hung out in computer rooms the way I used to, either.... --pb

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VT131 needs keyboard help

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com [mailto:pete@dunnington.u-net.com] > "4", etc. If > only the keyboard test fails, the terminal should go online > in receive-only > mode (ie it's useful as a display). It does that... :) Would like to type things, though. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Bell & Howell Apple II update

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Lawrence Walker [mailto:lgwalker@mts.net] > TRS80s. Mini and > micro people would be all over each other. And I would be in I don't imagine that would be the case. I think most people on the list are diverse enough to appreciate both. > a minus rating > because of my non-industry ignorance. Then how would I get > help in simple > repair tasks for my collection ? ... and everyone's ignorant of some things. Life would be boring if you had nothing left to learn. On the other hand, you're right that it's probably a bad idea -- just not for those reasons ;) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Chase [mailto:vaxzilla@jarai.org] > On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Christopher Smith wrote: > > I'm pretty sure your RT counts on at least the point of having a > > proper system monitor, though. :) Honestly, I don't have many > > machines with wheels, myself.... I have two now, and a few that > > _should_ have wheels, but don't, which may also count... Gotta get > > one of those nice BA-123s for one of my MicroVAXen. > Would that be with or without the naked woman option? Well -- a fiancee could be... um... converted -- into a "naked woman option..." She has her own VAX even, but it's a VAXStation 2000, which doesn't have any wheels. Right now, though, there are no nude women on my VAXen. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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HP 9000 800/G40 console cable -- again!

by csmith＠amdocs.com

An update on that HP system. It seems the pinout I had for the console cable is completely off. :) (Great!) I did manage to find the send and receive pins and get those plugged in, so I have a console connection. Anyway, the point of this is -- nobody use that last pinout. I got an offer before from somebody who has one of these, and was willing to check how the cable works. I will try to obtain a complete, corrected pinout. ;) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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HP JetDirect for Apple??

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Who was looking for this? Toth? doc

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Shameless Plug!

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 28, Bruce Lane wrote: > Ok, I admit it's a shameless ad. I'm sending it here because I know some of you are into the older HP calculators. > > I've put the magnetic card reader (Can it write as well?) for an HP-41C up on Ebay. Link here if you're interested. Hey...On your other auction, the one for the transmission test set...In the leftmost rack in the background, at the top...Would that happen to be a TrueTime GPS, WWVB, or GOES time standard? I think I recognize the color and the rack handle. :) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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S/370 docs (was: Re: IBM big iron.)

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

> > > IBM docs really are very good and complete - probably more so than > > anyone else's. They are a pain in the neck to read, unless you can > > speak the language. Speaking of which... I have a stack of /36 docs that I'd like to part with. I have not looked through all the DOCs but believe the list is accurate. According to the list on the box(s), these are the DOCS: The system/36 Library Using the Async Comm support RPG II messages Source Entry Utility guide Utilities messages Operating your system 5360, 5362 Communications and System Management Guide System 36 Distributed Data management guide Sort Guide Data File utility Guide Using system/36 Communications Interactive Communications Feature: guide and Examples System messages Programming with RPG II Interactive Communications Feature: Reference System /34 to System /36 migration aid Creating Displays: Screen Design aid and system Support program Concepts and Programmers Guide System /36 - system reference Setting up your computer: 5360 Installing you new features: 5362 Performing first configuration: 5360 Operating your computer System porblem determination 5362 Changing system configuration Guide to Publications Converting your /34 to /36 Procedures and Commands Summary. Some of the DOCs are showing wear while others are in excellent condition. Overall, I rate their condition as very good. I'd guess the total weight of the DOCs is around 45 lbs. Because of my curent financial situation, I cannot give them away. However, I will consider REASONABLE offers on this library. If anyone is interested, send me a message offline and we'll discuss. See ya, SteveRob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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Request for Review ...

by walgen＠e-Spirit.de

Hi! any help finding out what items are missing from my want list (and of course from my collection) would be VERY APPRECIATED! Want-List: http://www.homecomputer.de/pages/f_want.html Have-List: http://www.homecomputer.de/pages/f_gallery.html Please note that this list only covers HOMEcomputer and not micro/business-computer although the destinction is of course not that easy to make - at least I have a kind of "working-definition": http://www.homecomputer.de/pages/faq.html#items Stefan. www.HomeComputer.de

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Searching for old DEC 12V frontpanel bulbs

by brian＠quarterbyte.com

Check out Chicago Miniature Lamp. They seem to be one of the only remaining manufacturers of tiny incandescent lamps. http://www.sli-lighting.com/cml/index.cfm I've found it hard to find distributors who'll sell fewer than 100 lamps, though. Brian =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- =-=-=- _| _| _| Brian Knittel / Quarterbyte Systems, Inc. _| _| _| Tel: 1-510-559-7930 Fax: 1-510-525- 6889 _| _| _| Email: brian(a)quarterbyte.com _| _| _| http://www.quarterbyte.com

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Searching for old DEC 12V frontpanel bulbs

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

At 05:53 AM 1/28/02 -0800, Ethan wrote: > I'm restoring some pre-TTL DEC stuff (R and W series logic) and I need > a handful of front panel bulbs. Unlike the later bulbs with a plastic > base and strong wires to solder to the PCB or to plug into socket pins, > these are like a kernel of corn, with two fine wires coming out of the > glass envelope at a slight angle with no supports of any kind. Sounds like a standard T1_1/2 (about 3/16" diameter) or T1_3/4 (about 1/4" diameter) wire-ended bulb. There are still a few companies that make them. > If DEC was underfeeding these bulbs to extend their life, I would expect > that the bulb should be rated at 14V-16V. I measured slightly over 12VDC > in circuit, but well within a 5% tolerance. The Farnell catalogue lists a few that are 14V. The correct bulbs for my RL02 drives are 14V, fed from a 12V supply, as you say. > I have checked the online manuals I could find, but no mention is made > of the nature of the bulbs for 1966/1967-era DEC equipment. Any ideas? Take a look at Farnell's online catalogue, at http://uk1.farnell.com/Search/search4-frame.jhtml?_DARGS=%2Fcommon%2Fprodse… and search for part number 328900. That should get a page with a small picture; click on the image to get a table showing the charcteristics of that family and a bigger picture (http://uk1.farnell.com/Search/level_5.jhtml?PRODID=37469&SKUID=35454). Part number 3159346 will show you a different make (but only 12V). At least you'll be able to see if that's the right shape/size and perhaps help find a US manufacturer or supplier if you don't want to order from the UK. BTW, if you try part number 316216 you'll find something like the bi-pin ones for your PDP-8 panel. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Looking for DEC pedestal case parts...

by vaxman＠earthlink.net

I got a uPDP-11 today, but the white front cover and the brown front panel bezel (the thing that says micro pdp-11), and the foot are all broken... Anybody got spares? Name your price... Clint

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a VAX 11/780 in my garage ...

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 29, Gunther Schadow wrote: > I am happy to announce my new baby: thanks to Jon Auringer of > Astronautics and Merle Pierce of RICM, I have now a VAX 11/780 > in my garage. Nice cabinet, with UNIBUS extension and a TE16 > drive (looks nice but will I ever sacrifice a 25A circuit just > for it?). Oh My. I *really* like TE16 drives. They'll run on much less than a 25A circuit, though...Years ago, I ran a TE16 and a PDP11/34a with two RL01s on a 15A circuit. It was tight, but it ran. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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S/370 docs (was: Re: IBM big iron.)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 28, Tothwolf wrote: > > Watch it - IBM still sells stuff like this, and might get angry. > > Remember, the S/370 architecture is still very much in use today. > > Really? These seem to be ancient, and seem to have been well taken care > of. I'll check them later and see what their dates were. I can't imagine > them still being in print :) Their current mainframe architecture is based on, and largely compatible with, the S/370 architecture. And there are a LOT of very old actual S/370s still in use. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Anyone wants a Micron Exceed for MAC Se30?

by claudew＠videotron.ca

Hi all While cleaning up and tossing stuff I found a Micron Exceed video card for MAC Se/30. This was gonna go into garbage...but I looked it up and saw that it could be considered rare (...) and perhaps I should not thrash it and get it to someone who can appreciate it. I am not a big ebay-er seller or buyer, so I am offering it here. Trade offers, no $. I saw these going for $60 to $500 depending on model (!!???) I am looking for SGI and SUN equip... Its model no 306-48. Searching www says its for 640 x 480 external VGA on a Se/30 also works on a IIsi (?). I have the card only, not the cable or connector for the monitor but the connector is a 6 X 2 pin common IDC connector and it would be easy to make a cable... Card is untested but it looks fine...I can send you a pic...I remember sticking it a Se30 way back and computer worked but did not test card video output... Contact me by email. Claude http://computer_collector.tripod.com

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by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Chase [mailto:vaxzilla@jarai.org] > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Roger Merchberger wrote: > > Hell, *everything* I do is fast -- Winders & Linux! > [[ahem... I have a > > dual-processor Athlon MP 1600+ -- dual SCSI, dual LAN, > etc... so I realize > > this isn't a fair fight... ;-) ]] > You're not gonna impress anyone on this list with that candy-pants > quiche-eating system. You can start to get our attention by get a > computer that weighs more than you. Or barring that, we'll respect > you more if your system doesn't have floating point instructions, > or an integer divide, or even an integer multiply. Hear Hear. Though, I may listen when Athlons have casters and a respectable console firmware with "deposit" and "examine" commands, at least. Bonus points if you can't get them to run windows should your life depend on it. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Shameless Plug!

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Ok, I admit it's a shameless ad. I'm sending it here because I know some of you are into the older HP calculators. I've put the magnetic card reader (Can it write as well?) for an HP-41C up on Ebay. Link here if you're interested. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1327909730 Thanks for putting up with my occasional ads. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)

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XDMCP for RT?; Was Re: Is this a IBM RT mouse?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 28, Doc wrote: > > > > > Yup, that's it! Anyone claimed it yet? I'd like it for my RT. > > > > > I think, therefore I am dangerous > > > > > > Well, I fired off an email asking for it Saturday, and haven't heard > > > > back. So, I hope *I* got first dibs.... > > > > > Me too. We could all meet somewhere and fight for it. :) > > > > Can I put money on the fight so I can buy it from the winner? > > So that's 4 of us that have functional RT's but no meese, right? I > have to assume you guys got keyboards, since the docs say the beast > won't boot to a serial terminal. Yup, I have a keyboard. > The question, since I'm pretty ignorant of X11-pre-R6, is if I install > the X11 & AIXWindows packages, will the RT speak XDMCP to a Linux or > NetBSD X-terminal? Or heck, even my X-Station 150? > Inquiring minds gotta know. I'm not loadin all that krap without > either a mouse or remote access to the AIXWindows desktop. I'm > *dreaming* of 5.25" floppies. I'd be surprised if it didn't work. XDMCP has been around a while...I don't remember what release of X it made its debut in, but I was running XDMCP with X-terminals (Sun3/50s and XKernel) nearly ten years ago...RTs weren't nearly so old then. I'll be at least some useful X can be built on an RT, depending on the OS. Probably X11R4. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Not-so-OT point of philosophy

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> I started internal medicine rotation at the Loma Linda VA Hospital today > and noted that the entire place is crawling with WinTerms (by Wyse, no less), > running WinCE, connected via Citrix to a Win2K Advanced Server host. There > are only a few "real" PCs there -- in fact, I think the Macs might outnumber > them. On a slightly related note, has anyone seen a VNC Terminal yet? I got an add for them a while back. While they're basically the same thing as a WinTerm, they strike me as being more usable as VNC is better supported than WinFrame. > Before all of you cry off-topic, doesn't it seem odd to anyone we're now > full circle and back to low-power terminals connected to a "mainframe," now > that corporate America has gotten off its fat client kick? Where I work PC's are basically used as X-Terminals that can run office apps if needed. If I understand this .NET thing (doubtful), it sounds to me like they're heading even closer to a Mainframe type style of computing. Zane

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Z-100 serial ports

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> > > 1st question -- found some info in the 2nd manual under "programming data" > > (I was looking for *hardware" data!): > > Well, I'd call it programming data. Hardware data would be the > schematics, how the signals are used, and so on... Okay, I'll grant you that bit of nomenclature ;>) I also managed to learn (God bless the Google Usenet archives!): lowest number (0E8 and 0EC) are the data ports, and the control ports are (data port + 1). > > 2661 Serial A (Printer Port) 0E8-0EB > > 2661 Serial B (Modem Port) 0EC-0EF > > Hey -- I'll bet Tony knows! > > Well, not off the top of my head I don't. But I do have a 2661 datasheet... Why am I not surprised? > OK, there are 4 8 bit locations in the chip. That's why it takes up 4 I/O > addresses. I'll give the states of the pins on the chip to access all the > internal registers, and you'll have to figure out how to use them. > Conventionally, the A0 pin on the chip is connected to the lowest address > line in the machine, and so on, but that's not definite. So you need to > find schematics, and so on. Got 'em! > > Anyway, the states are : [snip] > I am going to assume you're not going to be attempting to use synchronous > modes Correct assumption, it's asynch. You may recall that this project began after I was (unsuccessfully) attacked by virii four times during December. I want to use the Z-100 to send, retrieve, and read my email. Since my ISP doesn't provide shell accounts, I have to write code to deal with PPP and TCP/IP (also POP3 and SMTP, but those are cake), and all of this (including the OS) has to fit in 192Kb RAM. > That should get you started! > > -tony Yes, it *will* get me started -- thanks a million! Glen 0/0

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] > On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Christopher Smith wrote: > > Hear Hear. Though, I may listen when Athlons have casters and a > > respectable console firmware with "deposit" and "examine" commands, > > at least. Bonus points if you can't get them to run windows should > > your life depend on it. > Does it count if you can never remember your W2k password? > Seems like > I have to reinstall every time i boot to Windows. Wait. > *Everybody* has > to do that. Heh -- No, but maybe you should get extra points for pointing out the obvious, there ;) I'm pretty sure your RT counts on at least the point of having a proper system monitor, though. :) Honestly, I don't have many machines with wheels, myself.... I have two now, and a few that _should_ have wheels, but don't, which may also count... Gotta get one of those nice BA-123s for one of my MicroVAXen. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Not really 10 years - but a classic anyway

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 13:28, Ram Meenakshisundaram wrote: > Hi, > > I picked up a VFX1 virtual reality headset from ebay at a killer price. > Now the problem with the VFX1 is that the interface card is limited to > only 640x480x256 colors, whereas the VFX1 helmet can run in 16bit or > truecolor. To get stereoscopic mode, the VFX1 uses interlaced video to > send > even lines to one LCD and odd lines to the other LCD. What would it > take to > tap the VGA output and somehow determine which lines are even and which > lines > are odd and feed it to the helment directly? This is similar to the way > a TV works. This is very similar to the way LCD shutter glasses like CrystalEyes work. Try a web search for that? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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VT131 needs keyboard help

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 16:27, Christopher Smith wrote: > > From: Carlini, Antonio [mailto:Antonio.Carlini@riverstonenet.com] > > > That really is VT101 and not a typo (unless they > > messed up in the manual) so it looks like > > the VT131 is a modified VT100 series terminal. > > Indeed, I've been lead to believe that this was the case. > I've been assuming that is correct for now. It is. The VT131 has additional firmware. In the meantime, I've found my VT100 manual. A flashing "4" means keyboard faulty or nort present. For completeness, "2" means a memory fault, and "8" means a data error. "6" is the logical OR of "2" and "4", etc. If only the keyboard test fails, the terminal should go online in receive-only mode (ie it's useful as a display). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 17:16, Ram Meenakshisundaram wrote: > Pete Turnbull wrote: > > > > > This is very similar to the way LCD shutter glasses like CrystalEyes work. > > Try a web search for that? > > > > LCD shutter glasses (which I also have), use page flipping to show the left > image > on the full screen then the right image on the full screen. The LCD glasses > "shutters" > between the two images so that the left eye sees the left image and the right > eye sees > nothing (a shutter is put on the other eye) and it flips back and forth > (sync'ed by the monitor). > Interlaced works differently. The right image is on the even lines and the > left image is on the odd > lines, so the resolution of the image is cut in half.... That's exactly how one of the modes on SGIs with CrystalEyes shutter glasses works. Even lines are on one frame and odd lines on the next, if the image is interlaced. The shutter glasses use the vsync pulses to switch sides between frames. That's why I suggested looking for information about CrystalEyes. The difference is simply that in the shutter types, you shut out one eye on odd frames and shut out the other on even frames, while on LCD displays you display one frame (eg, the odd frame) on the left and the next frame (even) on the right. Either way, interlaced or not, it's alternate frames to alternate eyes. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Bell & Howell Apple II update II

by csmith＠amdocs.com

It's working guys. Thanks a lot for all of your help. In the interest of public information: The BNC connectors do, indeed, carry composite video. These (at least the model I have) contain a "kill switch" in the little add-on that's bolted to the back of the machine. In order to get power to the internal power supply, you must have the switch depressed -- or the "cover lock" bolt in the locked position. Thanks again guys. Err -- anybody know a good way to run some diagnostics on the machine? :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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IRIS Power Series power supply questions

by csmith＠amdocs.com

Hi everybody, In preparation for my eventual booting of the IRIS Power Series machine, I pulled the back off yesterday and inspected the power supply, etc. It appears that somebody disconnected several plugs and some screw-posts when they pulled the unit out of service (!)... Anyway, to make a long story short, I had to make several assumptions in order to get the thing back together. Here they are, and can anyone confirm or deny them? The square-ish plugs should all be plugged in to the plug they match. (I thought this one was pretty safe.) The three loose post-screws go to the three wires that were just floating around loose (coming directly (more or less) out of the twist-lok plug. These screws are labeled N~, L~, and <earth symbol> The Earth pin on the twist-lok plug is the longer one. (made sense to me, but I can't find anything to confirm it...) The L~ probably stands "Live" or something like that (?) The N~ probably means "Negative" The positive lead on the twist-lok plug is the one that has the breaker on it. Given that logic: The L~, being positive, should be attached to the wire with the breaker in it. The wire connected to the long pin on the plug should be connected to the <earth symbol> connector. The other wire should be connected to the only loose-screw left. There is further evidence in the way the wires were bent, which suggests that this is all correct. Has anyone see these things before, and can possibly confirm this? Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Is this a IBM RT mouse?

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/26/2002 7:28:44 PM Central Standard Time, Innfogra(a)aol.com writes: > Someone mentioned the RT mouse has two round buttons. I have had this mouse > in my collection and have been wondering what it was for. > > Http://members.aol.com/innfogra/IBMMS1.JPG > > Yup, that's it! Anyone claimed it yet? I'd like it for my RT. I think, therefore I am dangerous --

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LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 28, Tony Duell wrote: > I am going to assume that the 'scope addresses the printer (it doesn't > require the printer to be set to Listen Always mode) and that it doesn't > do anything too exotic (actually, I don't think the Thinkjet does > anything that strange). OK.... > > Set the DIP switch on the interface so that the leftmost switch is down > (this sets it to 'translator' mode) and set a suitable HPIB address on > the other switches (there's a table on the bottom of the 82169 if you get > confused :-). Connect the Thinkjet to the 82169 with a couple of HPIL > cables. Connect the HPIB cable to the other side of the 82169. Connect > power to everything. > > Now configure the scope to expect a printer at an address 1 more than you > set on the DIP switches (the _interface's_ address is set by the DIP > switches -- that is to say that's the address you send commands to to > configure the 82169. The HPIL peripherals are assigned subsequent addresses). > > Try printing something. If you're lucky it'll work... I gave it a shot...I can't find any way to tell the scope what address to use for the printer. When I tell it to print, it says "<HP-IB> No listeners - Transmission Aborted". I assume this means it can't directly address an arbitrary HPIB device, only something set to "listen only"? This is the only time I've used HPIB and had things not "just work". :) I can set the scope to talk only, listen only, or talk/listen. In talk/listen mode it allows me to set its HPIB address, but not in the other modes. Any suggestions? Thanks, -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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VT131 needs keyboard help

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Carlini, Antonio [mailto:Antonio.Carlini@riverstonenet.com] > That really is VT101 and not a typo (unless they > messed up in the manual) so it looks like > the VT131 is a modified VT100 series terminal. Indeed, I've been lead to believe that this was the case. I've been assuming that is correct for now. > I've missed the rest of the thread ... is there > a part number on the keyboard? No identifying marks whatsoever, that I can see. :/ > There is a pocket service guide for the VT100 at: Thanks for the links. I'll see what they can tell me. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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VT131 needs keyboard help

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Christopher Smith wrote: > >Yep. :) That's what I thought, anyway... So I'm assuming for now the >keyboard is bad, or incompatible. Perhaps I could modify it either way, >given the schematics for the keyboard... If it helps, the VT131 manual lists the following for the print set: MP-01066 VT101 Family Field Maintenance Print Set That really is VT101 and not a typo (unless they messed up in the manual) so it looks like the VT131 is a modified VT100 series terminal. I've missed the rest of the thread ... is there a part number on the keyboard? There is a pocket service guide for the VT100 at: http://208.190.133.201/decimages/moremanuals.htm (I've since found an original, so I can probably do a better scan at some stage). There are also two directories worth of VT100 stuff over at: http://www.mainecoon.com/classiccmp/ Antonio arcarlini(a)iee.org

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IIgs Rom 1 vs Rom 3

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

RE: ROM1 vs ROM3. Your best bet is ask in the apple // newsgroup where you could get a correct answer very quickly. FAQs are posted there regularly as well. I think, therefore I am dangerous --

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VT131 needs keyboard help

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com [mailto:pete@dunnington.u-net.com] > > The reason I'm asking about the brand is that there was another > > terminal at the junk yard, completely trashed, which looked like > > a VT100, but had a completely different branding. I forget the > > brand right off, but I'm afraid I may have picked up the keyboard > > for the dead terminal, and that it may not be compatible at all. > Maybe a Plessey terminal? I had two which looked just like a > VT100 from > the outside, but had different (Plessey-made) logic inside, and > incompatible keyboards. Possibly -- I don't remember the branding right off. The problem, though, is that this is the only vt100-looking keyboard they have. :/ So if it's not the right one, (my current assumption until I figure out something else), then I'm at a loss as to where to find one. > I vaguely remember something like a flashing "4" in the top > corner of my > VT131 if the keyboard wasn't connected. Maybe not exactly that, but > something of the sort. Mine does that too -- the same flashing 4 I get when the keyboard _is_ plugged in. :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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IRIS Power Series power supply questions

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Tothwolf [mailto:tothwolf@concentric.net] > I've got three deskside single tower machines myself. If you > can wait a > few days, I'll pull the plates off of one and take a few digital pics. Please do. I certainly won't be plugging it in that soon at any rate. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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IRIS Power Series power supply questions

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com [mailto:pete@dunnington.u-net.com] > Yes. The reasoning is that the earth connection should > always be the first > one made and the last one broken in normal connection/disconnection. My assumption too. It seemed the sensible thing. > Yes. The live wire is always the one with the switch, > breaker and/or fuse, > unless it's a two-pole breaker (one pole for live, one for neutral) of > course. Only one of the three prongs is ever broken, so it's likely safe to assume that it's the positive one. Thanks. I feel somewhat better about it. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Caster?? (was: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 10:27, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote: > I was under the impression that casters were only for very lightweight > stuff that was intended to be movable by one person without a forklift, or > even a dolly. York had a large Sequent machine on castors. It took eight people to move it. Nine, actually. Eight to push, and one to collect up broken castors. Leeds had an Ahmdahl which had all the cabinets on castors. I have some of the castors (the only souvenir they let me keep), and they're rated for 250kg each. They're rather bigger than the ones on the Sequent :-) Our present tape backup system, which weighs the best part of a ton, is on four castors. Actually, lots of large machines, old and new, are on castors, but they tend to have jackscrews as well. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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