- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Joe [mailto:rigdonj@cfl.rr.com] > Well I've been trying to get either one to work for the > last hour and I > haven't had any luck. -$a: ties to create a .ZIP file by the > name of -&sa: > but that's illegal so it errors out. -rp, -rP, -Pr and -pr > all do that > same thing. It copies all the files including those in the > subdirectories > but when you use PKUNZIP all the files are placed in one directory > therefore losing the directory structure and overwritng any > files that have > same names but that came from different subdirectories. I've You did use pkunzip with the option (yes, it's optional) to make it restore the directory tree, right? :) I think it's -d Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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PKZIP problem

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote: > same thing. It copies all the files including those in the subdirectories > but when you use PKUNZIP all the files are placed in one directory > therefore losing the directory structure and overwritng any files that have PKUNZIP -d ^^ this is important -Frank McConnell

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a VAX 11/780 in my garage ...

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 29, Andreas Freiherr wrote: > This is just about right for a PDP-11/34A, a PDP-11/23, and a > Micro-PDP-11/23PLUS and their peripherals, such as LA36 and LA120 > printing terminals, and two-and-a-half 19" racks of diskette (8", of > course, what'd you think? ;^), disk, and tape drives. Not much left to > feed a MicroVAX, however - sigh... Pictures! Pictures!! -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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DesqView

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Right site but clicking all download links produce "page not found" errors here. Rich -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Smith [mailto:csmith@amdocs.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:15 AM To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' Subject: RE: DesqView > -----Original Message----- > From: Zane H. Healy [mailto:healyzh@aracnet.com] > Has anyone been able to access the site they claimed had it > for download? > I've wanted a copy of this since it came out! Does Symantec > have their own > download site? Try this: http://www.clarkson.edu/~vryhofab/wserv/freedv/ Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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DesqView

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Zane H. Healy [mailto:healyzh@aracnet.com] > Has anyone been able to access the site they claimed had it > for download? > I've wanted a copy of this since it came out! Does Symantec > have their own > download site? Try this: http://www.clarkson.edu/~vryhofab/wserv/freedv/ Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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FA: George A. Philbrick tube type Op-Amp

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

1965 vintage tube type Op-Amp for "analog computors" See <http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1329047917>

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Since the 95LX uses MS-DOS 3.22, it is limited to a flash disk of at most 32MB, so you would need to try either the 8MB, 20MB or 30MB packages. I haven't tried any of them, so I don't know if they will work with the 95LX's screen either. The 95LX requires drivers to use flash cards. I can send you ones for SunDisk (SanDisk) cards if you need them. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Cameron Kaiser [mailto:spectre@stockholm.ptloma.edu] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 7:36 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?) > Nah, you can put Minix on an HP LX palmtop, which is smaller and lighter > than a Poqet (see http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/minix.html). Any hope of this coming out for the 95LX? -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- Mistakes are often the stepping stones to catastrophic failure. ------------

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Remove

by fauradon＠frontiernet.net

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Willis" <prodinfo(a)armoralarms.com> To: <martys(a)sunday-blues.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:10 PM Subject: A Special Announcement From Dish Network and the Armor Security Corporation > Armor Alarms Promotion > > Click To Order > > This message is sent in compliance with the new email bill section 301. Under Bill S.1618 TITLE III passed by the 105th US Congress, this message cannot be considered SPAM as long as we include the way to be removed, Paragraph (a)(c) of S.1618, further transmissions to you by the sender of this email may be stopped at no cost to you by sending a Reply email with the words "Remove" written in the Subject line. > >

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DesqView

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 29, Gareth Knight wrote: > No wonder has mentioned this, so I thought I would throw it into the Classic > mixer: > > http://slashdot.org/articles/02/01/27/1950244.shtml > Quote: > "It seems Symantec (purchasers of former company Quarterdeck) has release > DeskView/X into public domain and can be downloaded now. DesqView/X was a ... I wanted to grab this, but the web server mentioned in the article is refusing connections on port 80. Anybody know what's going on, or did anyone manage to grab it? -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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by ismith＠quickvoice.co.za

Looking for interface to ide from JVC Hard Drive Model JD3824R00-1. Also looking for system setup files for Nixdorf 8810 M15 Iain Smith mailto:ismith@quickvoice.co.za

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DesqView

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

> http://slashdot.org/articles/02/01/27/1950244.shtml ... I wanted to grab this, but the web server mentioned in the article is refusing connections on port 80. Anybody know what's going on, or did anyone manage to grab it? Scroll further down the article to the comments, there's an alternate link that seems to work. Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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Not-so-OT point of philosophy

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

I started internal medicine rotation at the Loma Linda VA Hospital today and noted that the entire place is crawling with WinTerms (by Wyse, no less), running WinCE, connected via Citrix to a Win2K Advanced Server host. There are only a few "real" PCs there -- in fact, I think the Macs might outnumber them. Before all of you cry off-topic, doesn't it seem odd to anyone we're now full circle and back to low-power terminals connected to a "mainframe," now that corporate America has gotten off its fat client kick? Compared to the WinTerms, my old Wyse terminal looks so nice. -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- If your happiness depends on anyone else, you've got a problem. -- R. Bach -

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LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 28, Tony Duell wrote: > > listeners - Transmission Aborted". I assume this means it can't > > directly address an arbitrary HPIB device, only something set to > > "listen only"? This is the only time I've used HPIB and had things > > I think you're right, > > The bad news is that there's no way to set the 82169 to work like this. > You might be able to configure it as a listener using another controller, > and then get the 'scope to send data to it (without it being unlistened), > but don't ask me how to do that. And that would require you to find > another HPIB controller. Ahh well. Thanks for the suggestions, though. The lucky thing is, I found my HPIB ThinkJet. I thought it was up in Maryland in storage, but it's actually here at my new place. So I'm happily printing IR LED drive waveforms for the guy up in Maryland who's working on the driver circuitry for my new work project but can't afford a real scope. :-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Sharp CE-515P - need more pens! (also: Multitech MPF)

by philpem＠btinternet.com

Hi, A few of you might remember my Sharp CE-515P plotter. Well, my pens are almost completely devoid of ink and I need more. I know All Electronics sell a pack of 4x black pens, but I'm after the four coloured ones (blue, green, red and black). I'd really like to keep this thing running, but if I can't get the pens then I'm afraid I'm going to have to relegate it to the cupboard... Alternatively, if someone wants to donate a working flatbed (preferably A3-size) plotter to my collection... BTW, anyone got a Monitor ROM dump, memory map, schematic diagram, etc for the Multitech MPF-IB or MPF-I (the one with the green starburst display)? I'd like to have a go at rebuilding one. Just for the hell of it :-) Later. -- Phil. philpem(a)bigfoot.com http://www.philpem.btinternet.co.uk/

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Searching for old DEC 12V frontpanel bulbs

by geoff＠pkworks.com

> >I'm restoring some pre-TTL DEC stuff (R and W series logic) and I need >a handful of front panel bulbs. Unlike the later bulbs with a plastic >base and strong wires to solder to the PCB or to plug into socket pins, >these are like a kernel of corn, with two fine wires coming out of the >glass envelope at a slight angle with no supports of any kind. > >Some of the bulbs have burned-out filiaments. Many of the ones I need >to replace have broken wires externally. I am going to attempt to >solder new wires to the stub, but I don't expect the attempt to be an >overwhelming success. I might try a harder solder so that when I put >them back in the frontpanel PCB, they won't give way when I put enough >heat on the other end to install them. > >About all I know about these bulbs is that they are fed a nominal 12VDC >from the W-series driver boards. The front panel itself is literally just >a PCB and a bunch of bulbs; no active circuits (unlike, say, the front >panel of a PDP-8/L). Testing should be easy - feed 12VDC at a few mA >to each set of fingers and check the bulbs, one by one. > >If DEC was underfeeding these bulbs to extend their life, I would expect >that the bulb should be rated at 14V-16V. I measured slightly over 12VDC >in circuit, but well within a 5% tolerance. > >I have checked the online manuals I could find, but no mention is made >of the nature of the bulbs for 1966/1967-era DEC equipment. Any ideas? > I relamped the PDP-9 I am resoring for the Rhode Island Computer Museum a little over a year ago, and what follows is my description of that process. Given the time frame of the PDP-9, I suspect you're looking at a similar situation. I bought my 1764 lamps off the shelf from Mouser (www.mouser.com): The PDP-9 lamp board on which I wasted so much time and solder today is, I'm sorry to say, a nasty bit of work - not DEC's finest hour. Consider, it's 60 (not 56 as I previously reported) type 1762 T-1 3/4 wire-terminated lamps soldered into a board with 60 driver transistors, an electrolytic cap and a handful of connectors. It's buried deep inside the front panel, accessible, and only with difficulty, by climbing into the main system rack. Type 1762 lamps are very interesting. They're roughly 3/16" in diameter by 3/8" long, domed at the top (where they show through a masonite light blocker panel to the laminated plastic front panel of the -9), and roughly conical at the bottom. The wire leads protrude TO THE SIDES about 1/16" up from the bottom, and the leads are bent down so that they can be soldered into the board. I've seen oddball lamps before, but these are about as outr? as little incandescent lamps get. The wires are hard-drawn (ie: very brittle) copper, and they appear to poke through the glass without much of a seal. Over time the copper has corroded at the glass interface (Lots of green and blue ambergris. 'Looks good on an old roof, but is very disconcerting to see in electronic circuitry.), and the lamps break loose if you even think about looking at them. Also, enough tungsten has boiled off the filaments over the years that the top domes of most of the lamps are greatly darkened. I didn't bother to use any of the old lamps (although I salvaged what I could for posterity), but replaced all 60 of 'em with type 1764 lamps. Type 1762 lamps are damned-near impossible to find anymore (and given their construction I'm not surprised one bit); type 1764s are identical electrically (28V, 40ma, 340mA max cold surge current, CF-2 filament structure, 4000 hrs), and are the same size mechanically, but the wire leads come out the bottom through a more-conventional, and far less fragile, frit seal. Also, the leads appear to be tinned Kovar. They're stiffer but more malleable than the copper leads, they appear to "wet" where they seal with the glass, and they're magnetic. They also solder quite well. I dunno where DEC got those 1762s from. Maybe Ken got a good deal on 'em or something, and any insight from old DECies would be helpful here, too. But they sure did suck. In any event, all 60 lamps were removed. All 120 contacts (staked eyelets, by the way, pressed into a single-sided non-plated-through-hole tinned glass-epoxy board roughly 3" wide by 18" long) were cleaned - in large part to remove the drek left on the board from previous re-lampings. (I found evidence for at least one, and probably two, re-lampings, as well as the replacement of at least one of the driver transistors. One of the jobs was done by a tech whose training appears to have been at Hormel. He or she didn't know the difference between careful soldering and slaughtering hogs!) All 60 new lamps were installed and aligned (And I carefully made sure to get all their polarities right! <grin>), and the soldering job was inspected both visually under a magnifier and with an Ohm meter. The visual inspection found only one cold solder joint, and the meter found only one short (from a "sailor joint": gobs of solder), both of which were corrected. The driver transistors had previously been verified by junction checking. We should be set to go. I would recommend should a re-lamping ever again be required that LEDs rather than incandescent lamps be used. The availability of suitable lamps is questionable in the future (I just happened to find a stock of 300 at Mouser Electronics, now down to 250), and the ability of the lamp circuit board to take too many more re-lampings is questionable. A standard 20mA T-1 yellow LED (watch that polarity!) in series with a 680 Ohm 1/2W resistor to handle the roughly 15V drive voltage, "air-bridge" constructed to fit into the hole in the masonite light blocker of the front panel, would be a suitable permanent replacement for one of these lamps.

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Scoring system for messages to avoid annoying dweebs?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] > For instance, this message would get negative votes for being > off-topic, > my score would go down, and then some people might find it > preferable to > ignore future messages from me based on my score ;) What happens when everyone votes each other down to 0? :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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IRIS Power Series power supply questions

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > Do any of the wires show a low resistance to the frame? If > so, then that > one must be earth (or there's an insulation breakdown somewhere). I'll check. Probably should have thought of that, myself. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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10-pin RS/6000 serial cables available

by red＠bears.org

Hey, based on what some folks were saying on list earlier in the month, I grabbed a small quantity of RS/6000 cables, which I'm offering for my cost ($2) plus shipping. FRU 74F3135 10-pin ("dual5") plug <-> miniDIN-8 I can't speculate as to what its original purpose might've been, but perhaps some of you might find it useful for your older RS/6000s. ok r.

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Looking for a WD 1001 55 Disk controller

by g-wright＠worldnet.att.net

Hi I'm trying to get a Molecular going. it has Bad disk controller. WD 1001 55 Does anyone have one of theses that they can spare. I have 1000 series But there is a difference. E-mail me at address below Thanks, Jerry Jerry Wright JLC inc. g-wright(a)worldnet.att.net (new)

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VT131 needs keyboard help

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 29, 10:14, Christopher Smith wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com [mailto:pete@dunnington.u-net.com] > > > "4", etc. If > > only the keyboard test fails, the terminal should go online > > in receive-only > > mode (ie it's useful as a display). > > It does that... :) Would like to type things, though. You seem to have the "look, don't touch option" favoured by some museums. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Packrat genome project questions

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Ford [mailto:mikeford@socal.rr.com] > How many people on this list still have their 1st computer? > second? third? > every computer you ever used/owned? Well, the first computer I used was an apple II+, and a IIe after that. I have one of each now, but not the same model. My parents owned a TRS-80 color computer, then a Sperry PC compatible machine, neither of which I have at this point. They also had a "Leading Technology" 386, and a Compaq 486, neither of which I would want, since I have my share of that class of machine. The first computer _I_ ever owned was an AT&T Unix PC, and yes, I still have that. You could say that was my introduction to collecting "classic computers." It was more than 10 years old by the time I got it, and required some work to get it running. It was rescued from the trash. Its name is "Sprite" -- so called after the drink, since its green screen contrasted sharply with all other computers I'd seen recently (at that time). I was just working on it over this last weekend. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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HP JetDirect for Apple??

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 29, 6:56, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > --- Russ Blakeman <rhblakeman(a)kih.net> wrote: > > What jetdirect cards are you looking for - in other words for which HP > > printers? I work in these things all the time and come across sources of > > various ones from time to time. Also which ethernet - 10baseT, 10/100? > > With BNC or without? > > Personally, _I'm_ looking for an HP JetDirect card for my LJ-IIID. I'd > prefer 10BaseT over 10Base2. I wouldn't say no to a 10/100 card, but I > doubt there was one for this old printer. I think some of the later cards do fit, probably ones for a LaserJet V. > The card I'm looking for should have multi-protocol support - Unix, > Apple and PeeCee. If I had a part number, I'd list it, but I know > they made such things. The normal interfaces were J2550A (10baseT only), J2552A (10baseT/10base2/Localtalk), J2555A (Token Ring). You can upgrade the firmware if it's very old, and it does support all the common protocols (lpr, Novell, Applesquawk, ...). Whether the printer/interface supports them all *at the same time* depends on the printer, not the interface. Some printers, like the IIISi, LJ4/4M and most DesignJets are single-protocol and can only be configured to handle one at a time; if you want to use a different protocol you have to reconfigure the printer. Others, like the 4Si and later, and my DeskJet 1600, can handle all at the same time, and switch between them according to what arrives on the interface(s). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Need info: Applied Microsystems 8080/8085 Diagnostic Emulator

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Does anyone know anything about the item above? I've seen these before but this is the first one that I've found with the pod and this one seems to work. I've posted a picture at <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/app-u-sy.jpg> . I know it's big but I wanted to capture as much detail as possible. joe

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Need info: Applied Microsystems 8080/8085

by aek＠spies.com

I have the AMS Z80 and 6809 manuals on line at www.spies.com/arcade/TE If I can scan the 8080 manual Sellam has, I'll put that up as well.

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DesqView

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Has anyone been able to access the site they claimed had it for download? I've wanted a copy of this since it came out! Does Symantec have their own download site? Zane > > No wonder has mentioned this, so I thought I would throw it into the Classic > mixer: > > http://slashdot.org/articles/02/01/27/1950244.shtml > Quote: > "It seems Symantec (purchasers of former company Quarterdeck) has release > DeskView/X into public domain and can be downloaded now. DesqView/X was a

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Hayes Micromodem II / microcoupler (was: Re: Is this a IBM RT mouse?)

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> wrote: > Oh yeah? Well, I've got the original Hayes modem product: the DC Hayes > modem for the S-100 bus :) Hayes made two modems for the S-100 bus. The first (ca. 1978) was the 80-103A, the second was the Micromodem 100 (using the same Microcoupler as the original Micromodem II for the Apple). -Frank McConnell

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Hayes Micromodem II / microcoupler (was: Re: Is this a IBM RT mouse?)

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> wrote: > I did recall that the Micromodel 100 used the Microcoupler but then I > remembered the 80-103A didn't. The 80-103A used a device (which I'm now > forgetting the name of--damn cold) that you had to get from the phone > company in order to use it, back in the days of Ma Bell who was oh so > strict and oh so paranoid about what you plugged into her. DAA, short for Data Access Arrangement. -Frank McConnell

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Nah, you can put Minix on an HP LX palmtop, which is smaller and lighter than a Poqet (see http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/minix.html). BTW, Last year Thaddeus had a number (about 4000!) of 1.5MB SRAM cards on sale (unadvertised) for 5 for $25. Check the message at http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/hplx-l/0104/msg00231.html. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Smith [mailto:csmith@amdocs.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:59 AM To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' Subject: RE: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?) > -----Original Message----- > From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu] > Well, if I have my way, my Gateway Handbook will be a > smaller Unix > box... 10" x 6" x 1.5" ;-) > And it just squeaks by 10 years old too ( I think, maybe 9...) I have been thinking about putting Minix on my Poqet PC, which would probably take the record. ;) I need a 2M SRAM card or two, though. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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That's not a _real_ computer(Was: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payo la?))

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Lawrence Walker [mailto:lgwalker@mts.net] > On the other hand MY TRS80 5meg HD is bigger than your XT, > and my pre-Sprint Qume power supply is known to dim lights in > the neighborhood. And it don't use no steenking, cheating, 220V > power source. I read that as "TRS80 Smeg HD" :) Are you sure you're not exaggerating? TRS-80s themselves wouldn't be that big without the monitor attached. :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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StorageTek drive

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I just picked up a *really cool* 9 track StorageTek drive on Saturday (thanks Jon!). I'm having trouble trying to find docs for one to indicate possible diagnostic routine #'s (I've entered all 256 combinations, and not observed too much interesting). The model number seems to be something like this (assuming it has a real model #): 4000002383-4 Also, does anyone have a QBus PERTEC card they would be willing to part with? Or, does anyone know of a source for an ISA or PCI card that is supported under some sane OS (Winders or Linux preferred)? -- Pat

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Looking for a M200 card reader WITH card weight

by lemay＠cs.umn.edu

Does anyone here have a M200 card reader with the card weight? What I need is a good picture of the card weight, so I can attempt to obtain one for my card reader. Yes, there are people who have these card weights available, but its extremely difficult to describe something I havent seen for 20 years myself, just using words ;) -Lawrence LeMay

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IIgs Rom 1 vs Rom 3

by mythtech＠Mac.com

What is the difference between a Rom 1 and a Rom 3 Apple IIgs? I have 4 IIgs's sitting in my garage (law of aquisition... I wanted a IIgs for years, finally bought one, then I get 4 given to me for free!). It looks like I have two different styles (based on opening the lid and looking inside), one has a two rom chips, one has one rom chip (among other differences). I would guess they are Rom 1 and Rom 3 machines (I can tell by booting them right? the starting splash tells me? or how is it determined?). But what is the difference between a Rom 1 and a Rom 3 machine (besides a Rom 3 being newer I assume). Is one better than the other? What changes were made to the machines? (from the looks of the logic board, one of the two styles looks like it might have more ram on board... but maybe they just used a different chip and needed more of them... I don't know). Anywhere these details are listed out? I did a google seach, but didn't see anything fantastically helpful. So I am turning to the logical starting point to find this stuff out... the experts on classic computer hardware. Also, two of the four have a Ram upgrade board in it. All sockets are filled with chips, so how much Ram is that? 1mb? Or does it depend on the board and/or the chips (they are Apple branded boards). Are these upgrade boards usable in any IIgs (rom 1 or rom 3), the slot for it is in both style logic boards, so I would assume it works for both... but before I go swapping them around and frying something, I figured I would ask. TIA -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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TV tuner cards... [was: RE: hey"!]

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>BTW the modern method, which I do not have, >is to get a digital camcorder with "firewire" and >the same for your PC, and just download. >Apparently the camcorder stores in MPEG. The few times I have done it, I do similar to that. My camcorder has an anolog to digital passthru. So I can play an analog source (like a VHS tape), pass it into the camcorder, which passes it along to the firewire port and into my iMac. I then just use iMovie to capture it, and then export as Toast VCD format. Chews up a bit of space as iMovie only captures in DV format (which is freaking huge because it is supposed to be lossless), and I also need the additional space to store the VCD formated MPEG before burning, since I can't export directly to the burner. But it works for shorter clips (The longest I have tried is a 7 minute Tex Avery cartoon... but I could probably do up to an hour or so on my 60 gig drive... not sure) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Smith > Hear Hear. Though, I may listen when Athlons have casters > and a respectable console firmware with "deposit" and > "examine" commands, at least. Bonus points if you can't get > them to run windows should your life depend on it. Ehh -- I never actually had thought this may become necessary, but... Since there was a somewhat nasty response to the original post which this was in reply, I should state clearly that I'm at least half-joking ;) On the other hand, I _would_ find any system which meets the above requirements more impressive than one that does not. I'd also like to offer a sincere (and hopefully non-offensive *fingers crossed*) request to all the people on this list who've been having (occasionally personal) flame-wars recently to lighten up some. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Packrat genome project questions

by kapteynr＠cboe.com

I personally get attached to these things, and I have had access to lots of storage space. So I have every computer I ever owned, and they all work (last time I checked). The first I ever used was a PDP8-L running FOCAL that someone donated to my high school in 1974. When I went to another school, the Altair 8800 came out, and I got one right away. During college and work, I had access to DECs and mainframes. My next "personal" machine was a Fortune Systems 68000 based unix box. Then an Apple Mac II Powermac 6100 Now I am awash in various PCs and Macs. -Rob -----Original Message----- From: Mike Ford [SMTP:mikeford@socal.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:29 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Packrat genome project questions How many people on this list still have their 1st computer? second? third? every computer you ever used/owned? The first computer I ever used was a IBM 360 via punched cards in Fortran. First I ever sat in front of and worked on directly was an IBM 1130 via selectric console running a French version of APL. First I ever owned was a Apple II, which I still have. Same for the next five I owned/used; Mac Plus, Mac IIx, Mac 7200/90, Starmax 4160, and my Athlon based PC.

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Old 9-track tape data

by pb＠Colorado.EDU

I wonder if anyone can give me suggestions on the "best" way to get data (not all that much) off of some old 9-track tapes I have. They are all written with tar, on BSD 4.1-4.3 and BSD 2.8-2.9. If I was smart, the tapes are all written at 800 or 1600 bpi; I may not have been, and one or more may be at 6250 (?) bpi. I would be delighted to hear two types of offers: (1) someone in the Denver area who has the proper hardware and software, and to whom I can bring the tapes and some other medium (1.4/2.8 meg floppy; 100 meg zip) and extract the files; (2) someone with the proper hardware and software who would be willing for me to ship them the tapes, and make the data (tar files) available to me via ftp. I would certainly entertain other reasonable possibilities, as well. Thanks in advance. (This must not be a terribly uncommon "problem," right?) PB Schechter

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Gateway Handbook [was: RE: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola? )]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Got the Handbook all together, no extra parts or screws laying around, wait a minute... ..except for the darned plastic/foil sleeve that the HDD is supposed to be in!!! Grrr..... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Shameless Plug!

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 29, Joe wrote: > > Hey...On your other auction, the one for the transmission test > >set...In the leftmost rack in the background, at the top...Would that > >happen to be a TrueTime GPS, WWVB, or GOES time standard? I think I > >recognize the color and the rack handle. :) > > I have two GEOS time standards but I need antennas for them. Any idea > where I can find some? cheap? It's a circularly polarized signal so it's > not your typical antenna. Nope, I'm looking for one myself. :-( I will let you know if I find any, but I've all but given up. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Packrat genome project questions

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>How many people on this list still have their 1st computer? second? third? >every computer you ever used/owned? The only computer I *owned* that I don't still have is my Lisa (it was a 2 I believe). All the others I still have, and are still operational (although not in use). Although, with the exception of my personal Mac SE, I can't say for 100% sure that the computers I have are the actual computers that were at my house growing up. There was much swapping between home and my father's company, so the ones I now have in my custody may actually have been company purchased ones, and not the "original" ones at my house (but they are all the same model... Apple II+, 128k Mac, Mac Plus and up from there) In addition, I still have in my custody at least one of every model/type of computer I have used on a regular basis (I don't count things that I sat down at somewhere, played with for 5 minutes, and then moved on). That includes things like an IBM 5110, IBM System 23, IBM PC, XT, AT, PCjr, Apple IIe, and up from there. The only things I used on a regular basis that I do NOT own (or more correctly, have in my custody, as technically I don't own things like the IBM 5110), are a Commodore PET, a Northstar (Advantage ?), and a Kaypro II. I doubt I will ever bother getting those (well, maybe a PET) because I am out of room, and have had to start to narrow down what I keep/collect... so things like a Commodore 64 was just passed on to someone else (although, someplace I have two more of them, just not complete systems like I just gave away... when I dig them up, I will pass them on as well) I also don't count things like the numurous, nameless, AT clones that have passed thru my hands... I lump them all into the "type" catagory, so my IBM AT counts for all the 286 and AT clones, and I have a 386, 486, and so on... but like some of the machines I have had to dump do to space, I will probably cease to worry about those, and narrow it down to just the ones I consider to be "cool". -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Packrat genome project questions

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

First computer used: ??, fed it punchcards to do an analysis of Melanesian blood groups at Harvard grad school, 1972. First computer owned: Osborne 1, 1981. My wife wanted me to get rid of it, so I stripped out the insides so my son could fiddle with the boards (he hasn't, so I still have them intact), and tossed the case. BTW, if anyone needs parts for an O1, DD, 80 column upgrade, contact me. 2nd computer owned: Otrona Attache 8:16 -- still have (and intend to keep for a while). 1st PC: An XT-Turbo clone (1986), which I installed in a smaller than normal cherry-stained plywood box, power supply uncased and hung over the motherboard, expansion slots running side-to-side rather than front-to-back; open frame 9" monitor, bare Cherry keyboard. Still have the CPU and keyboard, tossed the monitor. Latest computers acquired: Poqet PQ-0181, HP 95LX, HP 200LX (is there a pattern here?). Bob -----Original Message----- From: Mike Ford [mailto:mikeford@socal.rr.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:29 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Packrat genome project questions How many people on this list still have their 1st computer? second? third? every computer you ever used/owned? The first computer I ever used was a IBM 360 via punched cards in Fortran. First I ever sat in front of and worked on directly was an IBM 1130 via selectric console running a French version of APL. First I ever owned was a Apple II, which I still have. Same for the next five I owned/used; Mac Plus, Mac IIx, Mac 7200/90, Starmax 4160, and my Athlon based PC.

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TV tuner cards... [was: RE: hey"!]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Anybody got one for sale? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash > ---------- > From: Passer, Michael W. > Reply To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 2:10 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: TV tuner cards... [was: RE: hey"!] > > I've done it with an Atari 2600. Works great (this was with a Gateway > OEM Bt848 card.) > > --Michael > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:41 PM > To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' > Subject: TV tuner cards... [was: RE: hey"!] > > > ! -----Original Message----- > ! From: Gareth Knight [mailto:gknight@emugaming.com] > ! > ! Simon wrote: > ! > Please say me, how it works! I want to convert my VHS into > ! > mpg-Files, but it > ! > doesn't work, only the Convertion of mpg to VHS works. > ! > ! For low-end conversion from VHS to MPG you can use a cheap TV > ! card, such as > ! those made by Pinaccle or Hauppage. This will allow you to > ! view the analog > ! signal of your video and record it as an AVI or MPG. I recommend ! > http://www.tv-cards.com/ for more information ! -- ! Gareth Knight > > You know, I should pick up one of those, so I can have a display > for my C128 (and Atari800) on my Win98 box. Finally put it to something > useful... > Seriously, is anyone else doing that? > > --- David A Woyciesjes > --- C & IS Support Specialist > --- Yale University Press > --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu > --- (203) 432-0953 > --- ICQ # - 905818 > >

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a VAX 11/780 in my garage ...

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

I wrote : >There's a bunch of manuals up already at: > http://208.190.133.201/decimages/moremanuals.htm > >I've already let them have a few more ... the install And now that I look, it seems that the latest stuff I sent popped up today! So the HW UG, Diag guide and one (of the many?) install guides are now there. (I should point out that all I did was scan them - the credit goes to Alain Nierveze who photocopied them and posted them my way). Antonio

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Gateway Handbook [was: RE: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, David Woyciesjes wrote: > > > > I wonder, what kind/size drive is in there? Can it be upgraded? > > ---------- > From: Doc > > AFAIK, standard 2.5" IDE. John ain't shy about disassembling his > toys, and the last resort idea was to pull the hdd, put it in a > desktop, install Linux, and put it back, so I bet it's IDE. > > ---------- > From: David Woyciesjes > > Hmmm, Probably could stick it into my Multia, which could run NT from a > SCSI drive, stick stuff on that way. Hey, if it's a standard 2.5" IDE > (a.k.a. laptop) drive, what's stopping us from sticking in something > bigger capacity? I can't remember what the HDD size limit is in DOS 5.0... > > ---------- Well, I got curious and cracked mine open... According to the User's Guide, it is IDE. And it is 2.5" size. Except one neat difference. To take care of the height restriction inside the case, they moved the drive controller board to _behind_ the drive, taken out from under it...So now it's physical size is 2.75" x 0.375"(3/8") x 6". Looks like just a special board, on a standard drive case. BTW, it's a JVC Model JDF2042M10-1. I'll have to Google that later, and see if I can find more info... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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IRIS Power Series power supply questions

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > OK, Neutral, Live (or Line) and Earth (or Ground). Ok, thanks for the correction on this, by the way. > What colour are the 3 loose wires ? Try one of the following > colour sets > : > US Old UK New UK/European/International? > Earth Green Green Green/Yellow > Neutral White Black Blue > Live Black Red Brown I think it's actually blue, brown, and white. Blue being neutral, brown live, and white earth, it seems. I could take the panel off and check, but I'm not at home right now. > Of course it might be something non-standard, but if those are the > colours, it's a good bet that's how they're used. Very close to the third option above, but not quite. Maybe it's a really pale yellow ;) > wrong term (again, no meaning for 'positive' with AC), but > you've come to > the right conclusion. Well, I guess it's better to sound inexperienced than to make things explode. :) > That's how I'd wire it... Never seen one, though, so I can't > be _certain_ Well, we're in nearly the same boat here. This is the only one I've seen, and it has all the wires loose. ;) Thanks again, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Here I Am

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 29, Huw Davies wrote: > > > There is something to be said for not just trying to > > > run on everything under the sun - and that directly translates into > > > stability of the OS. > > > >So, suddenly windows runs stable, just because they support x86 only ? > > Well NT on Alpha was significantly more stable than NT on Intel mainly > because there were only a limited number of supported (or even available) > configurations. What amazes me about Windows is not that it crashes often > but that it runs at all given the mix of hardware that it attempts to support. The BSDs and Linux support tons of hardware too...and they're more stable than windows will ever be. I think the simple fact remains...windows just sucks. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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1520 plotter (was RE: Your VIC-20 is worth $300!!! W@W!)

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>"tatty polys"? It sounds British, but I have no idea what it is. tatty (adj.) - in less than pristine condition polys (n.) - white polystyrene inserts in the box used to stop your tiny games console from flying around an oversized box during transportation Personally I'm more worried about working contents rather than the MIB stuff. HTH, Antonio

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> ---------- > From: Doc > > On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, David Woyciesjes wrote: > > > > I wonder, what kind/size drive is in there? Can it be upgraded? > > AFAIK, standard 2.5" IDE. John ain't shy about disassembling his > toys, and the last resort idea was to pull the hdd, put it in a > desktop, install Linux, and put it back, so I bet it's IDE. > Hmmm, Probably could stick it into my Multia, which could run NT from a SCSI drive, stick stuff on that way. Hey, if it's a standard 2.5" IDE (a.k.a. laptop) drive, what's stopping us from sticking in something bigger capacity? I can't remember what the HDD size limit is in DOS 5.0... > > It is a Neat Thing, isn' tit? Let me know if I can be of help. I have > the > > null modem cable, floppy drive, 2 power supplies... > > Didn't know there was a floppy option available.... But that would be > cheating. The challenge that started the flame war (which, of course, I > avoided completely... not) was how to make it boot a Linux kernel & > pcmcia drivers without floppy drive or CD.... > > Doc > Yep. The floppy plugs into the funny looking parallel port in the back of the Handbook, and gives you a regular parallel port, and a second serial port. I also have the battery pack that holds 6 AA batteries to power it. My two NiCd battery packs for it are dead though... Can't hold a charge really anymore. One shows a red light, instead of the amber "charging" or green "charged" light. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Shameless Plug!

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 28, Bruce Lane wrote: > Ok, I admit it's a shameless ad. I'm sending it here because I know some of you are into the older HP calculators. > > I've put the magnetic card reader (Can it write as well?) for an HP-41C up on Ebay. Link here if you're interested. Yes, it can indeed write cards as well. I really like these little buggers. An especially neat feature is the program translation trick they can do whilst reading HP67/HP97 program cards. :-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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FA: George Philbrick tube type Op-Amp for analog "computors".

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

See <http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1329047917>.

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Need source for high current HP type (with dimple) 14 or 16AWG 110vac power cord

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 27, Gary Hildebrand wrote: > Wonder what the dimple is for? should be able to use a standard IEC > connector cord with heay gauge wire. Can't believe that thing is that > big of a juice hog. Electric heaters draw about that much power. There are three "standard" IEC power connectors...there's the one we're all used to, the one with the dimple (higher current) and a larger square one (still higher current). -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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