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What's your specialty?

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> ---------- > From: Doc > Reply To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2002 4:39 PM > To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' > Subject: RE: What's your specialty? > > On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, David Woyciesjes wrote: > > > Now, what about the face plate? > > You mean Apple shipped those boxes with *face-plates*??? > > Doc > Eh, face plate, trim piece, bezel, whatever you call it... Yer pickin' on me, aren't ya? :) --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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The importance of showing ALL of the code in C

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) write: > >With, OR WITHOUT, an MMU, it is legal C code! Legal in the sense that the compiler cannot spit it out. It does not, however, have an implementation independent meaning (i.e. different things can happen on different platforms). > int A[10]; > int N; >. . . > A[10] = 0; >will NOT generate a runtime error. While A[10] has a clear meaning (the next int in memory after A[9]) that doesn't mean that: (a) you have any idea which (if any) of your other variables may be trodden on (in particular there is no way you can know where N will be in memory in relationship to A[]) or (b) that you cannot seg fault under some circumstances on some machines (as a simple example, consider the case of an embedded system where A[9] happens to land at the exact top of your accessible memory). Antonio

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N* MDS-AD3 disassembly (LONG!)

by r.stek＠snet.net

Bill - I'd be happy to send you some CP/M boot disks and/or N* DOS disks already set up for the Sol - I believe that some if not all of them have the CBIOS source included. Bob Stek Saver of Lost Sols

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What's your specialty?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Alex White [mailto:meltlet@fastmail.fm] > Please, a VAX in the UK. Please. > (the girlfriend requests that I ask for a MicroVAX...;) Maybe you'll get lucky and find one in at least a BA123, or a "this is a MicroVAX?!?!" that's been rackmounted with all of its external peripherals... Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Mounting drives (was RE: What's your specialty?)

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

I like using pieces of aluminum cookie sheets -- right thickness, cuts & bends easily. Used some to make brackets to mount hard drives over the motherboard (where a short card would go) in AT&T 6300's so we could put in a 3.5" floppy and keep the 5.25" floppy. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Hellige [mailto:jhellige@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 4:01 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: What's your specialty? > > Velcro... the drive sled of champions. > >I like that idea, I'd never thought of it. I'll have to keep it in mind. >Beats just sitting it in there loose like I do. I used it to stick a 1" Seagate drive to the side of the case of my Power Computing Mac-clone when I ran out of actual drive bays. It worked pretty good! Jeff -- Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File http://www.cchaven.com http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757

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What's your specialty?

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> ---------- > From: Chris > > >Bzzzt! Wrong answer, smart-ass! Everybody knows the answer is duct tape! > > > >Now, what about the face plate? > > More Duct Tape? > > -chris > Very good grasshopper! Very soon you too will master Improvisational Manufacturing... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Mac Plus NIB! (yep, the 1986 comp, still new in the box)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jon [mailto:jon@slurpee.org] > pieces for computer parts let me know also, I find a lot of old > dec/rs6000/hp9000/apple/sgi/next/misc (I dont really like x86 > stuff) so > let me know and I'll keep my eye out for you. I'm in need of a monitor cable (b&w, with 19 pins (I think) on both ends), and a non-adb mouse for a NeXTStation. :) Please let me know if you run into one of those. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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What's your specialty?

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Anyone have a sled and >faceplate to stick a CD-ROM in the Quadra 800? Velcro... the drive sled of champions. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Quadra 8x0 (950?) Drive Sleds

by mythtech＠Mac.com

> What is a CD sled with screws worth? considering shipping will be >another $3-$4.... Well.. I just paid $1 each for 7200 sleds from Small Dog... and there is another vendor I saw selling IIvx sleds for $0.25 each (well... no, I was TOLD they were selling them at $0.25 each... but I couldn't find them on the site, or I would have bought some) So... I would have to say, they aren't worth much. That being the case... I would like 3 of them :-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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What's your specialty?

by mythtech＠Mac.com

> Any idea what the specs are, or the P/N of the backup battery is? I >have a MP120 that throws an error about the backup battery every time it >powers up. Works fine, though, and isn't losing data when powered down. The backup battery only does its thing when the main batteries are dead (or removed for changing). It should be a user changable part in the battery compartment. On the 100 and 110 it is just a standard button cell battery (I think I bought my last replacement one at Rat Shack) The 110 in front of me uses a CR2032 battery (large button cell, 3v lithium). As long as the 120 isn't missing its battery, you should be able to just remove it and read the numbers off the back of the battery. If it is missing, it is probably the same battery as the 110, since the 120 was built around the same design (110, 120 and 130 were all "sister" units... the OMP and 100 were sisters, and the 2000, 2001 were sisters) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Taking control of your collection

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] > I see that your Spousal Equivalent has good taste, too. I want the Well, _I_ think she does. :) > AT&T and the Tadpole..... I know they're fairly common, but > the price! The Tadpoles are pretty common, and coming down into the three-digit range fully working ;) Unix PCs are less common. I have one, but she got the original box with hers ;) (mine has a larger disk, though, and a couple extra serial ports) Mine was given to me -- saved from the trash. We paid $20 for hers, which was still wrapped in plastic and everything. It was offered to me by a local computer dealer who just happened to have it setting around in the back of the shop. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Computer Museum of America on Tuesday night's PBS NOVA (fwd)

by Innfogra＠aol.com

After reading my own message I realized I should have given some context. The program was about VENONA, the codebreaking operation which uncovered the secret of the Soviet Union's atomic success. It included quite a personal insight into the soviet agents at Los Almos in the 1940s. In Oregon it will be repeated Thursday evening. I will be earlier than it's normal time Thursday 9:00 instead of 11:00 PM I believe. Early in the program they showed how coded messages were keypunched and sorted on 1940s IBM equipment. I saw no computers. I suspect this is what they were at the Museum to photograph. When I had my warehouse I rented equipment to movies. Usually had a set designer come through and pick out equipment. Then negotiated a price for the rental. They usually picked it up and returned it. It did not need to be running equipment, it just had to look good. Generally they took good care of it. A couple of times they wanted computer equipment to destroy. They did break a copier once but paid for it quickly and fairly. It didn't generate a lot of income but it was fun. Paxton Astoria, OR

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What's your specialty?

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Well, like others, I am trying to limit things, and going more for depth than breadth (ie, not focus on every motherboard revision, but try to get one system with all docs and peripherals)... The collection seems to center around a few nexuses (nexii??): - All-in-one CP/M machines (Kaypro 4, Televideo TS-803, Zenith Z-121, Northstar Advantage, Osborne 1) - "Single-board computers" (AIM-65, Big Board, Xerox 820) - Apple II (IIgs w/ ZIP GSX, High speed SCSI, 4MB RAM, ComputerEyes. A "killer" IIe w/ 1MB RAM, SCSI Rev. C, CP/M card, Super Serial. A couple of IIc and IIc+ machines) - S-100 (Two sweeeeeeeeet CompuPro setups, docs, disks, etc. Also several misc. motherboards, cards, power supplies, docs.) - Macintosh is rapidly becoming a nexus, though I am trying to avoid it (simply for lack of space) ... a Performa 6360 w/ 80MB RAM, 256KB cache, video in and TV cards, a PaperPort scanner, and a Sylewriter 1200 printer. Also a Performa 630CD DOS Compatible, several LC IIs, and a Mac Plus w/ 20MB external Hard Drive. - Also several oddballs, like a TI-99/4A w/ PEB, a TRS-80 Model III, a memodyne M-80, a Tandy 102, and a couple of old DOS/WIN 3.1 laptops... I try to thin things out sometimes(as my occasional free stuff and informal auction postings to the list will verify), and focus more when I stray. It's hard, though.... What do I want? heh... an SDK-85 would be nice (I have the docs already), a Transwarp for the IIe, a 3.5" disk interface card for the IIe, a MEK6800D2 (I have half of one -- keypad and display, and docs), an MECB (??) -- the Motorola 68000 SBC, w/ "TUTOR" monitor (I have the docs), a G3 upgrade card for the Performa 6360.... Rich B. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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PDP8 Terminal info?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 6, 6:13, Kris Kirby wrote: > On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Dave McGuire wrote: > > You don't need other hardware. I'd send you the pinouts but I don't > > remember them offhand. > > Great. The occasion is that the gentleman with the PDP8 knows it counts > out of the console port, but doesn't have hardward to do so. I'm going to > give him a little gift. :) > > Anyone know where I can get (2) of those 20MA male connectors? Not the shells (they're obsolete, unfortunately) but were part ofthe AMP Mate-N-Lok Commercial range, the same as is used on 5.25" drive connectors. You can still get the pin inserts and socket inserts, of course. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Quadra 8x0 (950?) Drive Sleds

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

There's a crate of dead Apple CD drives at work. Yes, mostly with sleds attached. My boss, the scrapper, will send them to the crusher unless I ask for some, at which point he will perceive value and want large bux. What is a CD sled with screws worth? considering shipping will be another $3-$4.... And who all wants one? IIRC, the same sled fits the pizza-box Centris, 6100, 8x0, 950, and 8500? Haven't seen any bezels. Doc

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What's your specialty?

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> ---------- > From: Chris > > > >Anyone have a sled and > >faceplate to stick a CD-ROM in the Quadra 800? > > Velcro... the drive sled of champions. > > Bzzzt! Wrong answer, smart-ass! Everybody knows the answer is duct tape! Now, what about the face plate? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Computer Museum of America on Tuesday night's PBS NOVA (fwd)

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Sorry - satellite goes down 2-3 times per winter as a standard, but it >picked one hell of a time to go down... Yeah... my satallite goes out maybe 6 times a year (last time was during the Oz season finale... what is it with picking bad timing). But even with 6 times a year... that is still better than my cable that used to go out about 6 times a month! (and I get WAY more channels for the same money... and STILL find myself flipping around with nothing good to watch) Now... if I could just get a dual decoder TiVo to go with my satallite (I have Dish Network... which is a bit behind the curve... DirecTV users have better decoder options) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Mac Plus NIB! (yep, the 1986 comp, still new in the box)

by jon＠slurpee.org

Ok, a few of you might know me from a cross post that Doc posted here about some NeXT computers... At one point I was an avid collector of all things computer (and I still have quite a bit), so I cant pass up a good deal, but unfortunantly while I'm in school I have to part with most of the stuff I get in order to get food and pay rent :) There are a few pics of this bad boy in: http://cherry.slurpee.org/~jon/pics/ The box it self has a few markings on it, but the contents inside are perfect (one side of the software box is ripped, but the computer/kb/m havent been touched). I figured I'd find a better home for it on this list than on ebay, so if you're interested make me an offer. If you need misc pieces for computer parts let me know also, I find a lot of old dec/rs6000/hp9000/apple/sgi/next/misc (I dont really like x86 stuff) so let me know and I'll keep my eye out for you. Thanks, jon

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by wh.sudbrink＠verizon.net

I just noticed something weird about my SOL. >From everything I can tell, it is a SOL-20. It has the S-100 backplane, the big power supply, the numpad, etc. BUT, the silver serial number label reads: Sol Terminal Computer Model No. 10 <<<yes, ten ------------------------ Serial No. 103476 ------------------------ etc. I wonder how this machine ended up with the wrong lid?

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Taking control of your collection

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Hellige [mailto:jhellige@earthlink.net] > >about me. She does have her own collection, and > >encourages me way too much. > Mine does as well...she collects Barbie dolls and we have 3 > cabinets full of the things. She hasn't bought any for a while, Um, no... mine has a small VAX, an AT&T Unix PC, and Apple Lisa, a small Macintosh, a Tadpole Sparcbook... Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Taking control of your collection

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Merchberger [mailto:zmerch@30below.com] > Darn, you prolly know perl about 1000000% better than me... > So, I can't trade your wife 6 months of perl programming for > a sparcbook... > :-( I don't think she's thinking about getting rid of it anyway. :) She also knows enough perl to get by, so it probably wouldn't be a very good trade either. I haven't been able to get her to try assembly, pascal, modula, oberon, or c much yet. > Always wanted one of those. Me too. :) Especially since she got this one. They're very impressive up close, and I think all notebooks should be judged by them. > My wife is also amongst the computer illiterate, but at least > I have her > brainwashed^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H educated enough to not want > Windows on > any machine she uses... :-) That's the first step on the path to computer literacy. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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What's your specialty?

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>(Oh, just realised I forgot one of my favourite toys - my Apple Newton >Original Message Pad. I think it'll be on topic in a year :-) I don't have an OMP, but I have a 100 and two 110s... I used to write software for them. I was one of the few people that was actually a member of the "newton developer" program with apple... now I am just a plain old "select" member :-( -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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What's your specialty?

by ken＠seefried.com

Hmmm...specialty... - National Semi 32000 based stuff - SBCs & eval boards for odd processors (e.g. Signetics 2650, Fairchild F8, RCA 1801, MIL-STD-1750A) - VMEBus stuff - 68060 based stuff (mostly VMEbus...not really interested in an Amiga) - Lisp, Smalltalk or Modula machines - Interesting terminals (Tektronix, ATT 5620/730/BLIT) - Bubble memory devices, and to a lesser extent, core memory devices And other sufficiently odd things... Ken

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 5, Pat Finnegan wrote: > Over at Purdue Salvage, they have an RS/6000 Model 7013 'space heater' > sized system. On the front it says 'Power Server 560(590?)' Any ideas on > value, and is anyone interested? If it's a 590, I'm definitely interested. No idea what it'd be worth though. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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What's your specialty?

by Richard.Sandwell＠roebry.co.uk

On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Sellam Ismail wrote: > Ok, now's your chance to discuss your specialty and get the attention > of other folks who have stuff that you may want. NeXT 68030 cube (with working Optical, how novel...) SGI Indigo R3000 Sun Sparcstation 1+ Sun Sparcstation 5 Sun Ultra 5 (way off topic by 6 years...) Apricot Generic MSDOS machines (XEN, Xi) and IBM compats (Xen-i, Qi, VX/FT etc) Sinclair QL Z88 And the wannabe/Wannahave stuff - Psion MC400, Wang PC, Wang VS100, RS/6000, NeXT Dimension, BeBox, IBM PS/2 95 Tim, when you've finished with that MC400 be sure to let me know. I've been after one for years....;-) //Rich

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Taking control of your collection

by zmerch＠30below.com

Rumor has it that Christopher Smith may have mentioned these words: >Um, no... mine has a small VAX, an AT&T Unix PC, and Apple Lisa, >a small Macintosh, a Tadpole Sparcbook... <Homer> Ooooohhh, Sparcbook... Mmmmmmmmm... </Homer> >Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Darn, you prolly know perl about 1000000% better than me... So, I can't trade your wife 6 months of perl programming for a sparcbook... :-( Always wanted one of those. My wife is also amongst the computer illiterate, but at least I have her brainwashed^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H educated enough to not want Windows on any machine she uses... :-) Laterz, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig. If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.

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Computer Museum of America on Tuesday night's PBS NOVA (fwd)

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Well, I watched it, didn't tape it. The Computer Museum was not mentioned or shown. There were some pictures of keypunching and running the cards through a sorter that I thought could have been shot at the Museum. Paxton Astoria, OR

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RJ45 to serial DE-9

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 6, 4:08, r. 'bear' stricklin wrote: > I just wired a handful of these adapters for my own asynch comms server. > Crossing TX and RX, as well as RTS and CTS, was a "no-duh". But what the > heck do I do with DSR, DCD, and DTR? Part of my problem is I don't > understand exactly what those signals are used for and how they relate to > each other. > > I looked at some PC "null modem" cables and they seem to tie DSR and DCD > at one end, to DTR at the other. I'd do this exact thing for my setup but > the comm server only offers DCD and DTR signals. > > How do I handle DSR, DCD, and DTR in this situation? I tried leaving them > unwired but things seemed unhappy. The way I usually do it is to cross wire like this: DTR -------------------- DSR \ DSR -- ------ DCD \ DCD -------------------- DTR Another way is to simply link all three together on each connector (with no DTR/DSR/DCD connections between the connectors). I usually also cross over RTS and CTS, or tie them together at each end. The logic is roughly like this: terminal connected to modem; terminal raises DTR to indicate that it's active (Data Terminal Ready) and it wants some attention. If modem is powered up, it replies by raising DSR (Data Set Ready) to indicate some kind of life. If it grabs a line, makes a connection, and gets a carrier tone in response, it raises DCD (Data Carrier Detect) to say so. I say "roughly" because it's actually different for full-duplex and half-duplex, and neither is quite what I've described above. However, that conveys the general sense. So in a situation where you have two terminals (or any other equivalent device, like a PC, printer, in fact any DTE or Data Terminal Equipment rather than DCE -- Data Communications Equipment) you create a "null modem" in between. When one side raises DTR, the other sees DSR, and vice-versa. When ever one sees DSR, it knows there's something there and it also sees DCD and thinks it's OK to transmit and receive (well, strictly speaking, only to receive). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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What's your specialty?

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated 2/6/02 2:01:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, DAW(a)yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu writes: > Hmmm, pretty nice. Yea, I stuffed 32MB RAM into my SE/30. And I do think I > just may have a 1 GB HDD to stick in there too. The 840AV does sound nice. > Maybe I can score the Quadra 800 here at work. Anyone have a sled and > I have a 950 that could use that too! -Linc. In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right... Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.

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Dec H775A remote battery backup

by quapla＠xs4all.nl

Anybody intrested in a Digital H775A battery backup unit for the cost of postage? You can have it with or without the 2 battery containers. Each container holds 6 2V 5AH recharchable cells. If you do want it without the batteries, I'll include the 2 containers and the 2 cables + 1 cell, so you know the size. All the cells are empty and don't seem to be recharching anymore. Ed -- The Wanderer | Politici zijn gore oplichters. quapla(a)xs4all.nl | Europarlementariers: zakkenvullers http://www.xs4all.nl/~quapla | en neuspeuteraars. Unix Lives! M$ Windows is rommel! | Kilometerheffing : De overheid '97 TL1000S | weet waar je bent geweest!

24 years, 4 months

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What's your specialty?

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> ---------- > From: Chris > > >I really should find out if my Macintosh II, with the scribbled date > under > >the lid, is rare or not, > > I know the original macs all had sigs in the case (128, 512s, plus, se, > and I think into the SE/30 is when they stopped)... I have also heard > rumor that the original II series had sigs or similar in the case (II, > IIx, IIcx)... but being as I dont have those 3 (yet), I can't check for > myself. > Hopefully, I'll have my computer room cleaned up and set up within a week, or so. Once that is done, it's time to open and inspect my Macs for stuff like that... > But hey... I am sure if you took it to Antiques Road Show, they would > tell you it is worth a few grand easy. > Heh, heh... then I just might have to sell it to someone there ;-) > >just to make you jealous Chris... ;-) > > Well... at least as of tomorrow, we will have a fair fight when swinging > SE/30's... I'm driving into NYC to pick up an SE/30 and an 840AV with a > SpigotProAV card (the SE/30 is pretty well loaded, 32mb RAM with 200mb > HD... so it looks like I will finally get around to installing NetBSD on > a Mac... and I have to look into the Spigot card... if it can capture to > MPEG, I might turn the 840 into a standalone VCD burner... but from first > checks, looks like the Spigot captures to a propritary JPEG format) > > -chris > > <http://www.mythtech.net> > Hmmm, pretty nice. Yea, I stuffed 32MB RAM into my SE/30. And I do think I just may have a 1 GB HDD to stick in there too. The 840AV does sound nice. Maybe I can score the Quadra 800 here at work. Anyone have a sled and faceplate to stick a CD-ROM in the Quadra 800? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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What's your specialty?

by Richard.Sandwell＠roebry.co.uk

Oh yes, me too. Two 100's, modems, and a centris 610 that I used to run the developer kit on. Found one of the developer magazines the other day too. Never could get my MP to accurately translate Hillary Clinton <grin>...... "Hans Franke" <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.s To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org bs.de> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: What's your specialty? owner-classiccmp@cla ssiccmp.org 06/02/2002 18:39 Please respond to classiccmp > >(Oh, just realised I forgot one of my favourite toys - my Apple Newton > >Original Message Pad. I think it'll be on topic in a year :-) > I don't have an OMP, but I have a 100 and two 110s... I used to write > software for them. I was one of the few people that was actually a member > of the "newton developer" program with apple... now I am just a plain old > "select" member :-( On this list you're never alone when it comes to such things. Gruss H. (Who realy would like to see a new Newt) -- VCF Europa 3.0 am 27./28. April 2002 in Muenchen http://www.vcfe.org/

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What's your specialty?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] > <flamebait> > I also have this perverse fascination with Macintosh hardware. I > don't like it. I keep wanting to like it, and accumulating > more of it. > MacOS 9.1 is the second poorest excuse for an OS I've ever seen. > Windows ME was just barely worse. > </flamebait> Macintosh hardware is much harder to appreciate than most of the more industrial machines. It becomes especially hard when you see the things that Macintosh could have been (Lisa, NeXT) :) It is, however, a cut above the intel garbage that has the market saturated, and for that reason, I like it. There are also some interesting bits of Macintosh hardware that most people don't see... http://www.lunar.com/portfolio/client_archive/netserver.html (They also have a newer "workgroup server," which I hear is similar, but with a glowing green apple on the side. :) > I'd like to have a non-Mac 68k workstation, but I don't know which > yet. May I suggest the SGI IRIS 3000, if you can find one, and have the space. I can't, and I don't, but if I could, I would. ;) Otherwise, the NeXT platform is truly the "holy grail" of unix workstations. This post is, of course, heavily saturated with personal opinion. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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What's your specialty?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 6, Huw Davies wrote: > >What is your opinion of the DS10 Alpha as an entry level > >current "production" machine. I was thinking that my > >next acquisition might be something more contemporary. > >I found an interesting reference to one here: > > > >http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/Resources/Computing/halley.html > > > >... which got me interested. > > Nice box although I think they are a little overpriced (but this is > probably due to the cost of the alpha chip more than anything else). Choice Overpriced for that level of performance? I disagree. > of at least three operating systems (OpenVMS, Tru64 and Linux). Wouldn't > surprise me if one of the BSDs ran too. Inbuilt ethernet and unless I'm > mistaken, IDE disks can be used if you want to save a few dollars. You can indeed use IDE disks on a DS10...if you want to trash the I/O performance of the system. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> ---------- > From: Pat Finnegan > > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Pat Finnegan wrote: > > > Over at Purdue Salvage, they have an RS/6000 Model 7013 'space heater' > > sized system. On the front it says 'Power Server 560(590?)' Any ideas > on > > value, and is anyone interested? > > It is aparently a PowerServer 550L, has 64M of ram (filled card), some > sort of framebuffer card (TI DSP's on it and 3 mini-coax connectors stuck > in a DE-9 or DA-15 connector shell, like a Sun video connector, but > without the extra pins), builtin 10Base2 and AUI ethernet, SCSI, 3 hard > drive, tape drive, floppy drive, and probably other things I'm fogetting > to mention. > > One of the hard drives (which I have yet to determine the size of) was > completely unhooked from the scsi bus and power, so it's probably either a > spare or broken.. > > Any ideas on where to get a bootable tape so I can reset root's password > (haven't booted it yet, still gotta try that first.) > > -- Pat > West Lafayette, IN > I do say, dear boy, that sounds like a nice little score! --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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What's your specialty?

by aek＠spies.com

yes, please! I'll forward my adr to you.

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What's your specialty?

by aek＠spies.com

Preservation of less common software and documentation, mostly concentrating on mid-60's to late 70's minicomputers right now. Tech support / research for simulator writers Xerox workstation archaeology.

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What's your specialty?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

I have a pretty varied collection. If I had to claim a specialty, it would be "high-end" systems. Perhaps I could specialize even further and say "graphics workstations," but that would leave out several machines which I'm very interested in -- the PDP-11 series, VAXen (Unless I manage to find an old Intergraph...) I've also become very interested in vector processors recently, though most of those are way too large for my current resources. Most of my collection consists of machines which I find interesting, and / or unusually innovative or powerful given the time of release. Generally this means: SGI NeXT DEC Other datacenter/workstation type machines -- for instance, I have one SPARC (two, but only one that is setup...), one HP 9000, and a Sequent S81 (multiprocessor fridge sized box with up to 30 i386/16Mhz CPUs and matching Weitek co- processors), MIPS M/120 (Interesting to me since I see a lot of MIPS influence in modern SGI systems...) An Atari ST (newest machine I can think of with the entire O/S in ROM -- excluding embedded systems.) Early machines (the earlier the better. I only have one slide-rule, though, and one abacus) I also have a collection of interesting or significant home micros... A couple of apples (notably a IIGS), an Amiga (I would like a better one, actually...), a Heath H8 (interesting because of the front-panel, if for no other reason) Things that I'm missing would include: Intergraph A working NeXT (of any sort. I have a slab, but no monitor cable or mouse -- I'm getting there... would also like a cube) A Unibus PDP-11. Preferably with blinkenlights, 8" disks, DECTape, etc, etc... A hardcopy terminal (Though, I'm supposed to get one sometime soon...) At Atari ATW (well, I can dream, right? :) A Cray EL92 (or 94, or something) A lisp machine An RS/6000 (I'd actually like to find a smaller one of these...) An AS/400 (Yes, I know somebody offered one up recently, but imagine having it shipped! Anyway, I'm holding out for the Cray :) A working Alpha (I'm well on my way to getting my Multia running) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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What's your specialty?

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>I really should find out if my Macintosh II, with the scribbled date under >the lid, is rare or not, I know the original macs all had sigs in the case (128, 512s, plus, se, and I think into the SE/30 is when they stopped)... I have also heard rumor that the original II series had sigs or similar in the case (II, IIx, IIcx)... but being as I dont have those 3 (yet), I can't check for myself. But hey... I am sure if you took it to Antiques Road Show, they would tell you it is worth a few grand easy. >just to make you jealous Chris... ;-) Well... at least as of tomorrow, we will have a fair fight when swinging SE/30's... I'm driving into NYC to pick up an SE/30 and an 840AV with a SpigotProAV card (the SE/30 is pretty well loaded, 32mb RAM with 200mb HD... so it looks like I will finally get around to installing NetBSD on a Mac... and I have to look into the Spigot card... if it can capture to MPEG, I might turn the 840 into a standalone VCD burner... but from first checks, looks like the Spigot captures to a propritary JPEG format) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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What's your specialty?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 6, William S. wrote: > What is your opinion of the DS10 Alpha as an entry level > current "production" machine. I was thinking that my > next acquisition might be something more contemporary. > I found an interesting reference to one here: > > http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/Resources/Computing/halley.html > > ... which got me interested. There's nothing "entry level" about a DS10. Those machines are frighteningly powerful, even the lower of the two versions. But yes, it's a wonderful machine. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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What's your specialty?

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> ---------- > From: Chris > > >There are > >exactly five MacOSes worth using: 6.0.8, 7.1, 8.1, 9.1 and 10.1.x and up. > > I agree 99%... I prefer 7.5.5 over 7.1... I have just found it more > stable but YMMV > > (and 9.2 sucks ass... my iMac won't stop crashing since I moved to it > from 9.1... I think it was an apple trick to push people to OS X... which > I just haven't fallen in love with yet, probably because most of what I > use isn't carbonized) > > -chris > > <http://www.mythtech.net> > Huh? 9.1 caused more problems for me, and 9.2 fixed them. And OSX, yes I am definitely diggin' it. Not using my Win98 box here at work anymore, it's sitting on a desk behind me now... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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HP 9000 battery update

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Stan Sieler [mailto:sieler@allegro.com] > Did you try to look up a price with the HP model > number for the battery that I gave you? Nope -- been busy. It's pretty bad when you can't get time to look up the price of a battery on a web-page. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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beefy RS/6000 router story [long]

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 5, William Donzelli wrote: > Once in a Blue Moon, you might come across an RS/6000 with a strange tag > (6611 Network Processor, I think). They are basically Powerserver 220 and > 320 machines, but with the V.35 and Ethernet cards. Sometimes these cards > are still installed. Grab them at all costs. I have found them in these > before, at hamfests and junkyards. Nearly all of the early RS960s went back > to IBM, or were scrapped. Oh YES! ...enss230.digex.net was one of those. We had an NSFnet T1 for a long while, it came up in March of 1993. That was one FAST router. The thing that bugged me about it was that it was HUGE...or rather, the rack it was in was huge. It was a desktop box, about rack width and maybe 6" tall, but they put it in an extended-width short rack about the size of a washing machine. The set it in there on the floor of the rack, VERTICALLY, with a U-shaped shroud around it. The rack was mostly empty space! On top of it were the two 1U rackmount Cylink CSU/DSUs (main and spare), an Exabyte tape drive, and a modem for remote management. We got fed up with it taking up so much space in our tiny computer room that we took it all apart during a config window and re-racked it in one of our nice compact Sun racks. :) When the IBM CE came out to "maintain" the system we sent him away, pointing to a FEMA contract that required us to restrict access to our computer room to "authorized personnel", of which he wasn't one...so they never busted us. When our contract ended and we had to return the machine, we hastily reassembled it back into its [huge] glory and gave it back to them at the door. :) We weren't given accounts on the machine. We were a bunch of old-school hacker types, every one of us paranoid having come from the defense industry, and we couldn't stand the idea of the ANS guys running this Unix box on our network that we didn't have access to...and we knew it was their NOC's procedure to dial into it, log in, and check the logs if the machine ever went down. So one day we rigged up a serial sniffer between the machine and the modem, and power-cycled it...waited 'til they dialed in, and sniffed the root password. It pained us to do that to a running unix machine, but hey, it got us access to the machine. Those RS960 cards were the first production router interfaces (on ANY router) that could route a T3 at full speed, if memory serves. We had to set up a local router on the ethernet to BGP peer with that RS/6000 as part of our agreement with ANS for the T1. Our company was DIRT poor; we couldn't afford a Cisco (lots of hand-waving and trickery got us the ANS T1 for free for many, many months thanks to the brilliant guy who was running the company) so we built out a SPARCstation-2 and loaded up NetBSD/sparc 0.9 (I *think* it was v0.9)...ran gated on it...and peered it up with enss230. It worked like a champ, with 9,000 routes in the routing table, and never crashed. It was amazing! Firing up nslookup just now, I find enss230.digex.net is still in DNS at its original IP address...an "A" record that I myself put into the nameserver tables nine years ago. Anyway, sorry for being a windbag...I first moved to the DC area in the beginning of 1993 to "do that Digex thing" and now I've recently moved away; kinda the "end of an era" for me and a major part of my life. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Ebay Unbuilt Heath H89 Sold

by marvin＠rain.org

Just got a message on the heath listserver showing an unbuilt h89 selling for $526.77. Seems a bit low to me :). http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1326964195

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What's your specialty?

by timwa＠snowgoons.fsnet.co.uk

Andreas.Freiherr(a)Vishay.com wrote... > try a MicroVAX first, to give her time to get used to it... ;-) I did suggest moving the cooker & fridge out of the kitchen so we could get a Vax in & wire it up to the cooker supply, but the idea wasn't popular :-). >> I'd dearly love a Vax (first 'real' computer I used, don't know which >> model 'cos I only saw the serial terminal,) but fear my wife would >> kill me if I tried to get one in the flat :-). > A MicroVAX II in a BA23 box uses about the same space and power as a > tower PC, so this is probably a good "soft drug" to start with. You may > then try to add a cabinet with RA8x disks to see how far you can go... > ;-) Hmm, looks like a nice machine... I shall be keeping an eye on eBay et al. Only concern being the possibility of getting a hernia trying to lug one upstairs :-). I've been tempted by a VAXstation 3100 to get the ball rolling... I'd definitely be able to get away with one in the house, and they seem to be reasonably widely available. My one enduring memory of actually using these though was possibly the worst mouse design I have ever had the misfortune of using... Although the Apple 'puck' comes pretty damn close! Cheers, Tim. -- Tim Walls at home in Croydon - Reply to tim(a)snowgoons.fsnet.co.uk

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What's your specialty?

by timwa＠snowgoons.fsnet.co.uk

Richard.Sandwell(a)roebry.co.uk wrote... > And the wannabe/Wannahave stuff - Psion MC400, Wang PC, Wang VS100, > RS/6000, NeXT Dimension, BeBox, IBM PS/2 95 > > Tim, when you've finished with that MC400 be sure to let me know. I've > been after one for years....;-) Hehe, over my dead body <grin>. Seriously tho, if I didn't have a genuine use for it I probably would pass it on - I only keep stuff I intend to make some use of generally. But it does make for a really handy portable serial terminal - I use it at work on 'real' servers as well as for my home stuff. The only annoyances it suffers are dodgy flow control, can't send a BRK, and the damn touchpad pointing thing. This is so fantastically annoying that whoever at Psion designed it should be shot - it's based on absolute coordinates (touch in the top left, the pointer jumps there,) the pointer disappears when you take your finger off (more accurately, the pointer constantly appears/disappears while you are trying to use it,) and it has an effective resolution of about 1 inch... Other than that, it's great :-) Cheers, Tim. (Oh, just realised I forgot one of my favourite toys - my Apple Newton Original Message Pad. I think it'll be on topic in a year :-) -- Tim Walls at home in Croydon - Reply to tim(a)snowgoons.fsnet.co.uk

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by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> ---------- > From: Doc > > On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Dave McGuire wrote: > > > Oh shit yes. > > > > -Dave > > <In his best "Simpsons" bully voice> > > Nyaahh-Haahh!!! I *wasn't* drinking coffee this time! > > Doc > Yeah? but I was... ***drip drip*** --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Taking control of your collection

by csmith＠amdocs.com

-----Original Message----- From: SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com [mailto:SUPRDAVE@aol.com] > bzzzt,wrong! my wife to be is pretty and smart and > more enlightened than most. Plus she knows *everything* > about me and loves it all! heh. Mine too, though I'm sure she doesn't love everything about me. She does have her own collection, and encourages me way too much. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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What's your specialty?

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 2/5/2002 6:58:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, foo(a)siconic.com writes: > Ok, now's your chance to discuss your specialty and get the attention of > other folks who have stuff that you may want ok, I'll start I specialise in IBM family one and PS/* models and apple products, primarily the ][ series.

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What's your specialty?

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Well, I'm just getting started in this hobby, and currently in the "grab the interesting (to me) stuff" phase. Although It's mostly centered around (for now :-) workstation class boxes, and Macs... > ---------- > From: Chris > > >Ok, now's your chance to discuss your specialty and get the attention of > >other folks who have stuff that you may want. > > I want any items made by Apple Computer, but my forte is the Macintosh > > -chris > I really should find out if my Macintosh II, with the scribbled date under the lid, is rare or not, just to make you jealous Chris... ;-) --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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