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Destructive charities (was: STAPLES STORES...)

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>The car that can't pass emissions is like the computer that won't run. It's >of no real use, except maybe for parts. Um... WRONG... the $4,000 Toyota just needs a new cat ($100 in parts and $80 in labor). The guy just felt like buying a new car. But since he donated it to us with the understanding it would be cut up, we can't sell it (like we would have liked, since we would have done the labor ourself, and used the money we got by selling the car for 4 grand to buy a new scott pack). Its about the same as throwing out a computer saying it is good only for parts, because the OS install has become corrupted. >(have you tried to salvage parts >from >a computer lately?) I do it weekly, when I pick up PCs sitting in curbside garbage. I built my home PC out of 90% salvaged parts. I have also upgraded most of the computers at my office entirely out of garbaged PCs. Some are mix and match, but many are picked up and need nothing more than a shot of 409 to clean the case as they work perfectly. I get a working 14 inch SVGA monitor weekly at this point. Heck... I have a Mac LC5200 sitting on the floor next to me that I just grabbed out of the garbage on my drive home Sunday... works fine... its heading to one of my office sites to upgrade an older 68k Mac. >there are lots of perfectly useable >PC's (you know, the ones with 640KB of RAM and no HDD) out there. They still >do everything a PC ever did, and a lot more than the mainframes of 1960 did. >What should we do with them? Once people don't want them any longer, whether >they're still functional is entirely moot. But there ARE people out there that still want them... they just aren't being given the option to have them... they are being scrapped without anyone checking. >If someone's interested in 'em, >well, that's why there's this list. Sure, great, ok, contact the group taking all the computers from Staples, and get them to agree to list all the computers they don't feel like keeping (what was it 90% of them are being junked?) and have them offer them up to others... either on this list, or a web site, or whatever. Bet they will tell you to bugger off, they can't be bothered... they are going to pick thru for the few they want, and the rest will become scrap metal. That is unfortunately true for most organizations (the local salvation army store told me they stopped taking computer donations because of return problems... when I pressed them on the topic wondering how they tell someone they can't donate an item... they told me that they actually still take them, they just toss them in the dumpster to avoid the heartaches of selling them... needless to say, I have been trying to keep an eye on the dumpster) So you are STILL wrong... a huge number of perfectly good... and WANTED machines, get scrapped all the time. I could continue to give you examples if you want... like the pharmaceutical company up the road that is tossing working Pentium II PCs and 17 inch monitors, because they are upgrading to P4's and flat screens. The PCs are being junked under contract to have them destroyed because the hard drives may contain sensitive info, and they didn't want to take the time to remove them, or securely wipe them (a friend works at the site, I had him look into it). Should I give you MORE examples of machines being scrapped that are wanted, or useful, or interesting? -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Fiche scanning redux

by aek＠spies.com

If someone on the east coast is interested, the company that I bought the TDC microfilm scanner from contacted me that they have another one that they'd be willing to sell for $500. It would be a non-trival effort to get working, but it would be a good place to start if someone was thinking about building an auto-indexing device from scratch. Phyllis Miller (703)550-1994 Diversified Equipment Co., Inc. 7213 Lockport Place Lorton, VA 22079

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Programmeren van de 6502

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, William S. wrote: > > > Although I am in the Netherlands I am not a native > > speaker. I will begin my Dutch language course in > > April but doubt I will be reading Nederlands > > very proficiently too soon. :) > > Where else do they speak Dutch besides some rural parts of Pennsylvania > where they generally shun technology? :) FYI- Dutch as in Pennsylvania Dutch is Deutsch ie German not Hollandische... -dq

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Programmeren van de 6502

by ceby2＠csc.com

Please allow me to second this emotion. I'm originally from York, PA -- about as Pennsylvania Dutch as anyplace. While I intensely disliked it growing up -- 'technological backwater' would be wrong. Backwater would be right. Don't think of it as picturesque farms with no electric. Think of it as aging trailer parks with abuntdant rent-to-own electronics, and plaques above the toilets reading 'If you sprinkle when you tinkle, be sweetie -- wipe the seatie'. It the sort of place where the peeling paint from bent-over farm-girl lawn ornaments blend nicely with the recycled tire flowerbeds and crab grass. I don't know about taste, but the Pennsylvania Dutch are as technologically adept as poor white trash anywhere in America. Colin Eby (escapee living on the Massachussets coast) At 01:01 AM 2/16/02 +0000, you wrote: >On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, William S. wrote: > >> Although I am in the Netherlands I am not a native >> speaker. I will begin my Dutch language course in >> April but doubt I will be reading Nederlands >> very proficiently too soon. :) > >Where else do they speak Dutch besides some rural parts of Pennsylvania >where they generally shun technology? :) The "Pennsylvania dutch" are actually german, for all I know. Seems that like a case of one person saying "deutsche" and another hearing "dutch". At least that's the explanation that I heard from a native. This native was born in a farm, then went to Drexel university, and now he's a phd and a top programmer of web applications for research purposes. So not all "Pennsylvania dutch" are technology averse. His dad, still a farmer, uses a Mac. So they even have taste in technology. carlos. -------------------------------------------------------------- Carlos E. Murillo-Sanchez carlos_murillo(a)nospammers.ieee.org

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FA: IBM 3270 PC Operations and Maintenence manuals

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Last 3 hours. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2002097255 This is the IBM documents to support the IBM 3270 PC. It covers all of the odd 3270 PC cards

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Fujitsu/Amdahl Bubble Memory System?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 2/15/02 7:08:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, ken(a)seefried.com writes: > The drive is roughly 3"w x 2.5"h x 7"d, and consists of a 3-board sandwitch. > > It uses FBM-C128GA bubble memory cartridges. Interestingly, many of the > cartridges that I got have "Amdahl" stickers on them. > We got in several 100 units that had a drive installed that sounds similar to this. They were remote power monitoring stations, kind of like an electric meter but with a bubble memory drive with a bubble memory cart plugged into it. We got lots of carts, too. This was about 10 years ago. They came from the State of Washington IIRC. I was surprised to see them. Before that the only bubble stuff we had seen came from Intel. IIRC they were of Japanese mfg., I don't remember if they were Fujitsu but it is possible. They used a removable 128K memory module, about 3/4X1X2 inches in size that plugs in and out of a socket on the drive. They were remote power loggers. Someone showed up, pulled the bubble cart, replaced it with another and took the just pulled one down to the office and read it. Paxton Astoria, OR

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VMS Question

by pat＠purdueriots.com

OK, now that I have a bunch of 9-track tapes, how do I dump a copy of the tape to a file? I've found "mount /foreign mua0:" and "dump /out=bleh mua0:", but I'd rather have a binary copy of the tape end up in a file. I've seen the MKD program, but that requires a library that I don't seem to have: -CLI-E-AMAGEFNF, image file not found DUA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]CMA$TIS_SHR.EXE; Any suggestions? -- Pat

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Protec PRO-83 Computer - More Info

by mhstein＠usa.net

Well, as Murphy would have it I just threw out a thick folder of Protec docs & literature. But, if it's the same Protec in Quebec who did indeed make Z80 SBCs in the old days before they specialized in KVMs, they're still very much alive; why not try a phone call or e-mail. www.protec.ca Protec Microsystems Inc. 297, Labrosse, Pointe-Claire, Quebec H9R 1A3, CANADA Tel.: (514) 630-5832 -------------Original Message----------- From: "Robert Collier" <rdcoll(a)hotmail.com> Subject: Protec PRO-83 Computer - More Info Hello all, I did a little more reading and found out that the model number for the computer was PMS 100. I could still use any information anyone might have - and hopefully, the model number might help. The machine is the Protec PRO-83 z80 Single Board Computer. Thanks.

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seek info for Ciprico Rimfire 3200

by red＠bears.org

Howdy. I'm looking for any information I can find on the Ciprico Rimfire 3200 VME SMD controller, and ideally drivers for it to run under SunOS 4.1. Actually, I know what it is so perhaps I should amend my request for "configuration information" in preference to "information". (; ok r.

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HP Calculator on ebay

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 16, Tothwolf wrote: > #1705353697 > > Who was it here who collects these? Lots of us, myself included. :-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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HP Calculator on ebay

by tothwolf＠concentric.net

#1705353697 Who was it here who collects these? -Toth

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X-10 (was: A *real* classic)

by mhstein＠usa.net

You may find that interfacing to X-10 is a little easier today than it was then, with friendlier stuff >from X-10 and also Micromint's PLIX chip/kit (the same folks who brought us the elsewhere-mentioned 80C52-BASIC). http://www.micromint.com/chips.htm mike -----------Original Message---------- From: Chris <mythtech(a)Mac.com> Subject: RE: A *real* classic <snip> Some day I will get an old interface and hook my X10 system up to a Mac Plus or SE or so that I have kicking around.

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DECpc labeled MS-DOS diskettes on EBay

by vaxman＠earthlink.net

One of the disks pictures says 'DECpc MSDOS 5.0 supplemental drivers' Item #2003139722

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OT Microsoft Mail & News (was Re: OT: But too funny...)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> > If people are still using MS Outlook inspire of all the viruses and crap > that have plagued that pathetic piece of shit in the past few years then > they not only deserve whatever damage gets done to their system via such > vehicles but they shouldn't be allowed to use e-mail at all since they > only end up contributing to the greater problem by running it! I'm using (please don't puke, at least not in my direction) MS Mail & News, simply because it's *there* and I've never heard of any Outlook-like holes in it. Has anyone out there ever heard of any major vulnerabilities in this program? Glen 0/0

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STAPLES STORES WILL TAKE OLD COMPUTERS

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] > What's happening more and more, though, is a long pseudotechnical > mis-explanation of the part's function. I was looking at digital I love those. :) See my previous comment about the composite video input. > cameras last year, and asked the salesperson at the camera > counter what > 3.2 megapixels translates to in terms of resolution and color > depth. He I always assumed megapixel was referring to the number of pixels at a fixed color depth (probably 24-bit)... I'm certain that it's just a manufactured slang term to make digital cameras sound more impressive and annoy people who know what they're talking about. Chances are that we're either talking about 1024 * 1024 pixels, or 1000 * 1000 pixels, in which case 3.2 megapixels gives one a resolution of something like: 3355443.2 (?) pixels -- that's using 1024, so it's probably incorrect :) (The .2 of a pixel makes me wonder) 3200000 (Sounds better to me, so it's based on 1000s) A square picture of 1789 * 1789 would be slightly larger than this. You can probably assume some kind of a rectangular aspect ratio, though. I would guess that a normal camera is something around 1.5 (wide) to 1, but I don't really feel like calculating that. ;) > explained to me at length that megapixels was a measure of "how many > pictures you can take on one smartcard" > Not being busy that day, and being unduly irritated by his > condescension, I made him repeat himself in front of the > store manager. > I don't know if the manager cared at all, but it made _me_ feel much > better. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Drive inventory

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:edick@idcomm.com] > IOMEGA again. I've still got about 500 lbs of useless IOMEGA > hardware in the > basement ... Speaking of iomega hardware in the basement... :) I have a 1/4 length 8-bit ISA board that looks like a SCSI controller, and is stamped with the iomega logo. Anyone know what it might be, or where to get drivers? I can try to get the numbers from it over the weekend, but all this talk of iomega stuff has made me curious as to what it may be... Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Drive inventory

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:59:40 -0500 (EST) > From: "r. 'bear' stricklin" <red(a)bears.org> > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Drive inventory > > On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Carl Lowenstein wrote: > > > The only Data/DAT drives I ever used (Gigatrend) were hardly ever > > compatible from one drive to another. In fact they were seldom compatible > > on the same drive from month to month. > > FWIW I have one of those drives. The mechanism was manufactured by JVC, > and I have not had much luck with it. I recall it being extremely > persnickety about errors on tapes, and even when I managed to get a whole > backup onto a tape without the drive going into fits, I was never able to > read that tape back to verify the data. Yes. I have a box of unreadable backup tapes and data tapes that someone else made while under the impression that the Gigatrend was really a working tape drive. :-( > OTOH if the tapes had to be formatted before use and were block > addressable, that might tend to explain why I had such terrible luck using > that drive as a normal tape device under unix. What was the prescribed > method for using a tape in this drive? Scrabbling around in the back room, he finds the Gigatrend 1230 Operators Manual. From Appendix B: Press ONLINE to go offline Press TEST to get to menu -- you want level 1. Press SETUP to increment displayed digit Press ONLINE to enter that level In level 1 you want function 1 Cycle through digits with SETUP Press ONLINE to select format function using default values. Lights will blink "FFFF" Insert tape and press ONLINE to activate format operation. Simple, isn't it. I think I got it all correctly summarized from the manual. If you want a copy of Appendix B TEST PROCEDURES it is only 8 pages. Send me a postal address. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu

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Radio Shack

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] > How can you possibly squeeze the system into a DeLorean? > There isn't even > enough room for a REAL computer! Well, provided you could fill some of it up with boards and disks, in such a way that it would function as a computer, the DeLorian itself may be considered a REAL computer, since it has wheels, and a sufficiently large case. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Fiche scanning redux

by aek＠spies.com

> There is a Canon MS500 microfiche scanner on e-bay right now. Read the description carefully. There is NO computer interface with it.

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Fiche scanning redux

by aek＠spies.com

> But overall, why not just buy a real $4,000 fiche scanner The pro imaging market is very pricey and proprietary. 4K won't buy you much more than a microfiche reader with a scanner back. Something that can do auto-indexing is closer to 20K. I have a mid-80's indexing fiche scanner that I've not been able to get any info on, and a 3M 7710 with SCSI interface that I've been trying to find software for about 6 months. Most of the companies have either been bought by a pretty non helpful company that I've been unable to get any info from, or have gone out of business.

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Drive inventory

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 12:34:53 -0600 > From: Dan Wright <dtwright(a)uiuc.edu> > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Drive inventory > In-Reply-To: <3B55D7F383B0D31197D9009027541CBF1A1A3952(a)cmiexch1.cmi.itds.com> > Sender: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > Christopher Smith said: > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Clint Wolff (VAX collector) [mailto:vaxman@earthlink.net] > > > > > DAT is the same as DDS except for the identification holes on the > > > case, and I would assume a royalty to the recording industry... > > > My Maynard/Archive/Seagate drive won't take DAT tapes. Irritating > > > because I wanted to write music to them at the time. > > > > Well, if you mean that you wanted to write it in standard DAT format, > > very few drives will handle that... most, though (every one I've > > used, at least), will write DDS data to a normal DAT. > > SGI is one company that makes sure the DAT/DDS drives they sell do audio DAT > too... I know that you can read/write audio tapes on an SGI you get if you > buy the tape drive from them, and possibly using a drive from another > manufacturer too. I imagine they do this since their machines are often used > in high-end multimedia type things...sill, kind of a cool capability and all > :) Two comments. Nearly all current DDS cartridges have an optically-sensed pattern at the beginning of the tape itself. This is termed MRS or Media Recognitions System. A DDS drive is usually configured by switch setting to treat tapes without the MRS stripes as read-only. DAT tapes sold for audio purposes don't have MRS. Back in the early days of DAT, there was a second competing tape format besides DDS, it was called Data/DAT. This required pre-formatting of the tape cartridges before use, and had the advantage that the tapes were block-addressable and block-replaceable, like a disk drive. The only Data/DAT drives I ever used (Gigatrend) were hardly ever compatible from one drive to another. In fact they were seldom compatible on the same drive from month to month. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu

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Dumpster in the alley, Part II

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Damn! If I could've, I'd skip right out of work for that puppy. But New Haven, CT is a little far... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash > ---------- > From: Feldman, Robert > > Well, Harold Washington College is at it again this morning. However, I > have > saved something that someone here might want: a Digital Prioris HX 5100 > MP/2. Don't know much about it, and it looks to be less than 10 years old, > but it is DEC. Appears to be clean and complete, except it is missing the > left side panel. Has four FR-PCWVR-AZ 4.0GB drives. Free for pickup _only_ > in the Chicago Loop (35 E. Wacker). Email me at > robert_feldman(at)jdedwards.com if you want it. > > Bob > >

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Re-finding more items as I open boxes

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Found the following while unpacking in the warehouse: 1. Commodore 1700 Ram expansion unit - not tested yet 2. Heathkit H8 missing 3 keys - not tested yet 3. Pet CBM 2001-32B - tested not powering on will need repair. 4. Heathkit H9 - not tested yet 5. Atari Lynx models I and II - both tested fine from the trip. 6. Radio Shack m100 - tested last night and works fine 7. Found a cartridge for the TI99 called Ant Eater 8K - not tested yet 8. Unpacked the black metal Kenworth Playstation tractor trailer - looks good on display with the other ad items. Now if I can just get some of those old oval display signs. 9. Tested the six Vectrex cartridges I found at the shop and they all work fine on the console. Took some other goodies home to play with like the 20th Annv. MAC, SEGA Nomad, and others.

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Protec PRO-83 Computer - More Info

by rdcoll＠hotmail.com

Hello all, I did a little more reading and found out that the model number for the computer was PMS 100. I could still use any information anyone might have - and hopefully, the model number might help. The machine is the Protec PRO-83 z80 Single Board Computer. Thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Fiche scanning redux

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 2/15/02 7:33:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, tony.eros(a)machm.org writes: > I like the resolution, but need to find a way to expand the field of > view. I'm sure I can rig up a scanning frame, but don't want to have to > stitch multiple captures per frame. If I can get this to work, it would be > > a very affordable way to do high-quality fiche scans. > I think you have a good idea Tony, nice experiment with the QX3. I wish I had one. >From looking at the images It appears to me that it is a Fiche that should be read at 24X. You might try photographic close up lenses with the 10X magnification. I suspect distortion from getting too close would be a problem but worth trying If you had one, a simple concave lens in front of the 60X might be worth a try. Is there a published optical path plan for the microscope? If so one might be able to figure out correction optics. Good luck and keep us informed. Paxton Astoria, OR

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Old HP scanner

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Don Maslin <donm(a)cts.com> > John, both the Scanjet and the Scanjet Plus used a HP proprietary > interface. The card for the Plus is reputed to work for both the > original and the Plus. The reverse is not true. In both cases, > however, it is definitely NOT parallel port. I bought one of these used (MIB!) for $200 in 1994, for use in my engraving shop. The card was 8-bit ISA and appeared to be some sort of half-baked SCSI. It was easy to configure if you happened to possess a working crystal ball ;>) The card-end of the cable was DB25, and the scanner-end was "Centronics" (you know what I mean by this term). The software included a runtime version of Win 3.0, which promptly crashed when run on our DOS-based 386/20. After installing the full version of Win 3.0 on this peecee, the software ran perfectly. When we upgraded to Win 3.1 (I don't remember the reason for the "upgrade"), the software generated an avalanche of error messages, then ran without error. As a side note, AFAIR the ScanJet was the only reason I installed Windows on this machine, which was used primarily to control engraving tables. All of the other applications were DOS-based, running under DesqView. All in all, the ScanJet was a nice piece of equipment for its time. I think I still have the software for it, in case anybody needs it. Glen 0/0

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Drive inventory

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Wright [mailto:dtwright@uiuc.edu] > SGI is one company that makes sure the DAT/DDS drives they > sell do audio DAT > too... I know that you can read/write audio tapes on an SGI > you get if you > buy the tape drive from them, and possibly using a drive from another > manufacturer too. I imagine they do this since their > machines are often used > in high-end multimedia type things...sill, kind of a cool > capability and all > :) It's for exactly that reason that I went out of the way to get an original SGI DAT drive for my Indigo2. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Drive inventory

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Clint Wolff (VAX collector) [mailto:vaxman@earthlink.net] > DAT is the same as DDS except for the identification holes on the > case, and I would assume a royalty to the recording industry... > My Maynard/Archive/Seagate drive won't take DAT tapes. Irritating > because I wanted to write music to them at the time. Well, if you mean that you wanted to write it in standard DAT format, very few drives will handle that... most, though (every one I've used, at least), will write DDS data to a normal DAT. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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STAPLES STORES WILL TAKE OLD COMPUTERS

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Peter C. Wallace [mailto:pcw@mesanet.com] > Actually the resolution is really about 1/3 the stated > "Megapixel > resolution", especially if you take pictures of things with > high spatial > frequency (say fine pitch IC leads) This is because the > stated resolution > neglects to mention that the three color pixels in a group > are counted as > individual pixels -- basically a X resolution B/W sensor > behind a color filter > array is called a X resolution color sensor, but it really isn't... > filtering after the fact attempts to fix the artifacts, > but makes a > mess out of high spatial frequency images that would have > been ok if the > camera really had the stated resolution.... I see -- well, divide the numbers in thirds, then. :) Unless you're lucky enough to find a camera that has a high-res b&w mode -- that would be nice. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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STAPLES STORES WILL TAKE OLD COMPUTERS

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

A little different in Clarksville; back in the 70s, they lowered the speed on the main drag from 45 to 35. The reason stated (in a newspaper article) by one town board member was "to get the people driving 55 to slow down to 45". So the *real* speed limits in Clarksville are 10MPH over what's posted. That contention hasn't seen a court test, yet, tho... ;) > -----Original Message----- > From: Russ Blakeman [mailto:rhb57@vol.com] > Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 10:16 AM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: STAPLES STORES WILL TAKE OLD COMPUTERS > > > Same here - in town 35 mph limit = drive 33. On the parkways > and interstates > 65 mph = 75 (or get run over). > > => -----Original Message----- > => From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > => [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Kris Kirby > => Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 1:29 AM > => To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > => Subject: RE: STAPLES STORES WILL TAKE OLD COMPUTERS > => > => > => On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Russ Blakeman wrote: > => > I live out in the boonies of KY and within 25 miles there are > => 2, 50 mile > => > range there are 2 to 3 per city. (25 miles here is like 10 > => blocks in the > => > city). > => > => Around here, the problem is remembering to switch from > "country driving" > => to "city driving". "Country driving" is usually done at > speeds of up to > => 70MPH -- low rate of enforcement. But the city cops are > sticklers. They'd > => rather ticket than fix the traffic problem. > => > => -- > => Kris Kirby, KE4AHR | TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. > => <kris(a)nospam.catonic.net> | IM: KrisBSD | HSV, AL. > => ------------------------------------------------------- > => "Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony." > => > => >

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STAPLES STORES WILL TAKE OLD COMPUTERS

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] > When a microphone is labelled as being "directional", the angle of > directionality, or the shape of it's response curve is hardly > a "annoy the > sales droid". It is approximately the same order of > necessity as asking > what is the capacity of a hard disk. Would YOU buy a hard > disk without > knowing the size? I certainly would -- in the case where, for instance, I knew that the interface was SDI, I was in need of an SDI disk to test a system out, and it was only a couple dollars anyway. :) But I'm just being argumentative. I do agree completely with the point you're trying to make. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Drive inventory

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > The tape drives were designed to work on the same cable as _2_ floppy > drives. So they're selected by doing things that won't have > any effect on > the floppy drives. Typically they look for transitions on a > particular > line when both drive select lines are deasseted. Neither floppy drive > will notice that (they're not selected), but the tape drive does. This is exactly the explanation I was looking for yesterday. :) Thanks Tony. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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@@Rare@@Look@@ you can't pass this up!!!! :-)

by fernande＠internet1.net

Silly isn't it :-) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2002965541 Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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Dumpster in the alley, Part II

by CARL.P.HIRSCH＠sargentlundy.com

>From a quick googling it looks like this is a dual-capable Pentium server. http://www4.service.digital.com/support_database/index/epid61.htm Not the exact server but Compaq is currently selling something called a "Digital Server 5100" that looks to be slightly upgraded in terms of processor, memory, etc. If revived it might make a pretty good workhorse. Redundant power supplies and all. -carl "Feldman, Robert" <Robert_Feldman@jdedw To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org ards.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: Dumpster in the alley, Part II owner-classiccmp@clas siccmp.org 02/15/02 08:09 AM Please respond to classiccmp Well, Harold Washington College is at it again this morning. However, I have saved something that someone here might want: a Digital Prioris HX 5100 MP/2. Don't know much about it, and it looks to be less than 10 years old, but it is DEC. Appears to be clean and complete, except it is missing the left side panel. Has four FR-PCWVR-AZ 4.0GB drives. Free for pickup _only_ in the Chicago Loop (35 E. Wacker). Email me at robert_feldman(at)jdedwards.com if you want it. Bob

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Dumpster in the alley, Part II

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Well, Harold Washington College is at it again this morning. However, I have saved something that someone here might want: a Digital Prioris HX 5100 MP/2. Don't know much about it, and it looks to be less than 10 years old, but it is DEC. Appears to be clean and complete, except it is missing the left side panel. Has four FR-PCWVR-AZ 4.0GB drives. Free for pickup _only_ in the Chicago Loop (35 E. Wacker). Email me at robert_feldman(at)jdedwards.com if you want it. Bob

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HP9000/425e

by emu＠ecubics.com

Hi, Just got an 425e in. But, no software on it. Anybody out here knows, where to get the HP/UX for it ? cheers

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Hubbell twist-lock connectors

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Schaefer [mailto:rschaefe@gcfn.org] > told to me and emperical evidence agrees) that it is the only > difference > between the various grades (ie spec & hospital) of devices. IIRC, hospital grade receptacles must exert more pressure to prevent sparks, which would be a bad thing to have around oxygen tanks. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Again, looking for a monitor.

by vance＠ikickass.org

Specifically an IBM 6091-023 or compatible. This is a monitor that is a fixed-frequency 23" Trinitron that does Sync-on-Green. Peace... Sridhar

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RS/6000 E30

by Richard.Sandwell＠roebry.co.uk

Hey, Doc - off list to save everyone's bandwidth... What do you think to an RS/6000 E30? I'm going to have a look at one tomorrow for not_much_money. I have 2 questions - is it MCA or PCI? And is the memory proprietary - or just standardish stuff? Thanks in anticipation of your wise word :) //Rich

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STAPLES STORES WILL TAKE OLD COMPUTERS

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] > Response to request for specs on a product: "It's really good." A former Apple employee? :) > Answer to "what is the angle of directionality?" of a directional > microphone (Sony MC-100): "That means that it only picks up > what you aim > it at." It's probably ok that they didn't know, but it's inexcusable for them to be so terribly stupid. It reminds me of an episode at Worst Buy here in town -- something like this: Him: What kind of TV are you looking for? Me: Something smaller than 20". Otherwise it doesn't matter as long as it has composite video in. Him: Component video is still pretty expensive... Me: (wondering why he's telling me this) _Composite_ video. Him: You probably can't get it on a television that small, either. Me: Um... that's fine, I just want normal composite in -- like this (pointing to composite input on a tv) Him: That's not component video in... > They suck so much that I'd rather go to FRY'S! No fry's around here. Most people are stuck with Staples -- on the other hand, there are a couple of local shops that are ok for most things. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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A/UX install notes

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

For those who asked, I put up my A/UX install notes on http://www.floodgap.com/retrotech/os/aux/ YMMV. -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- Faith is to be sure of what you hope for. -- The Kry, "Take My Hand" -------

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OpenVMS 7.2 SPL package FT

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Just found this in the closet, knew I had it somewhere... June 2000 OpenVMS/VAX Online Documentation Library (2 CDs, papers, in blue cardboard folder, for OVMS 7.2) June 2000 OpenVMS/VAX Software Product Library (7.2) OpenVMS VAX (tm) Software Product Library Disc 1 of 9 - June 2000 - Volume Label VAXBINJUN001 Disc 2 of 9 - June 2000 - Volume Label VAXBINJUN002 Disc 3 of 9 - June 2000 - Volume Label VAXBINJUN003 Disc 4 of 9 - June 2000 - Volume Label VAXBINJUN004 Disc 5 of 9 - June 2000 - Volume Label VAXBINJUN005 Disc 6 of 9 - June 2000 - Volume Label VAXBINJUN006 Disc 7 of 9 - June 2000 - Volume Label VAXBINJUN007 Disc 8 of 9 - June 2000 - Volume Label VAXBINJUN008 Disc 9 of 9 - June 2000 - Volume Label VAXBINJUN009 "KEEP ME" Disc 1 of 2 - June 2000 - Volume Label VAXBINKEEP01 "KEEP ME" Disc 2 of 2 - June 2000 - Volume Label VAXBINKEEP02 Consolidated Software Promotional ECO Distribution Disc 1 of 2 - June 2000 - VAXECOJUN001 Disc 2 of 2 - June 2000 - VAXECOJUN002 Compaq System Tools Disc 1 of 1 - April 2000 - AG-RJV3C-RE This is all original as it came from Compaq; I dont think I ever even took the CDs out of their plastic sleeves. Will ship it in the same box that Compaq shipped it in. I got it from Austin Energy here in town (the electric company); they'd gotten it in after they retired all their VAXen. Entire package order number is QA-YL48A-W8. FS/FT/whatever; I just need to get it out of here and dont want to eBay it. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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Subject: rk05 tester

by dancohoe＠oxford.net

> -----Original Message----- > From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Lawrence LeMay > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 1:11 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: rk05 tester > > > Is anyone here familiar with a RK05 tester? Any idea exactly > what it is, > and what it is capable of testing? I'm looking into possibly > buying one. > > -Lawrence LeMay > I have one. I can take a look at what it does and who made it etc. There are quite a few of them available from at least one source right now. I picked up a range of various test equipment for PDP 11 related uses about 3 weeks ago. If anyone is interested, I could make a list. Dan Cohoe

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Orlando hamfest last weekend

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

Hey Mike -- Thanks for stopping by the shop. It was really good chatting with you again (even if Joe and I tend to get involved in our usual gripe sessions ;>) > From: Mike <dogas(a)bellsouth.net> > First, I knew that Joe's CC reentry was being fueled by a *few* cool Intel > MDS-800 systems so I brought down an Intel MDS 235 for him (that was > originally his to begin with) to add to his growing 'Intel Gravatational > Field' Yes, we junkies always encourage the return of "lost sheep" by giving them a couple of free fixes ;>) > > Joe and I started early Friday and Saturday and I scored all this real > cheap: [list detailing tons of cool classic stuff snipped] Nice work! Is there usually *this* much good stuff at hamfests? Not that I've been to one lately (being a slave to the shop) but ones I've attended in the past had little in the way of computer-related goodies. > There were also several classiccmps not picked up because of high prices > like: > > Several TRS-80 100 portables and one with the portable floppy and a > Model 4 > SGI Indy > Timex ZX81 Okay, was that a Timex Sinclair TS1000 or a Sinclair ZX81? What was the condition and what else was included (manuals, box, ps)? And what was the asking price? Anyway, I'm glad you had fun in O-Town. Next time you're heading this way drop me a line. Glen 0/0

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A *real* classic

by mythtech＠Mac.com

> Now THIS is a classic: > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2003117896 > > Starts making me long my old Sphere I, and Outpost II. I personally liked seeing the original BSR-X10 setup at the bottom of the ad picture... I am still using some of my lamp modules from that era, and am still using my base controller as well. Although I have the clock model with timer, not the one that is pictured, that looks like it might have been the original alarm base controller, which would fit with the dialer, door sensor, and smoke detector also pictured. What software is shown on the screen? Looks like some early X10 software judging by the graphics of the lamps and TV. The first time I got to play with a software interface was only a few years ago on the Mac (and since I still lack a computer interface, all I got to do was look at what I COULD be doing). Some day I will get an old interface and hook my X10 system up to a Mac Plus or SE or so that I have kicking around. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Destructive charities (was: STAPLES STORES...)

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>I've seen some extremely nice looking, rust-free, apparently >well-maintained, older cars (e.g., late 1960's to late 1970's), with >good interiors, new tires, etc. sitting in a junkyard with stickers >from such charities on their windshields. Always donate scrappable cars to your local fire department or heavy rescue department so they can drill on them by cutting them up. Any self respecting department will have gotten themselves listed as a charitable organization so you will still get a tax write off. And if you have a running car... give it to me! :-) >It's my >understanding that the titles to such cars are kept by the >lame-brained cretins at those charities so that the classic cars can't >be put back on the road. Doesn't matter... once they hit the scrap yard, the existing title makes no difference. The car can be recovered via a "scrap" title, and then sold back out... it is just a messy, not easy ordeal... and 99% of junk yards aren't going to go thru the heartache when they can just sell the car in parts for more than the whole (and avoid ALL the paperwork)... or they will just crush it and sell it as scrap metal... also probably for more than selling the running car, and avoiding all the paper work. At least that is the understanding I have from the guy that takes the cars from my FD once we are done cutting them up. Maybe someone that works as a scrapper can confirm or deny my understanding (of course, this may very well also be a state by state kind of regulation). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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SA1000 interface

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Today I picked up two 8" Shugart 851 floppy drives and two 8" hard drives. I checked the hard drives (Quantum 2030s) and they use the SA 1000 interface. How similar is that to the interface for floppy drives? The control cable for each hard drive also connected to one of the floppy drives so they must share a good bit of the interface. Does anyone have a pointer to a good on-line description of the SA 1000 interface? Joe

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SUN-3 floating point info wanted...

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 14, Robert Schaefer wrote: > Hi! I'm looking for info on the SUN-3 floating point accelerators like the > FPA, and FPA+. Programming info, header files, maybe even the libraries if > they're avaliable. Under SunOS4, and perhaps previous versions, there are FPA libraries in /usr/lib. There are three separate math libraries if memory serves...one for soft floating point, one for 6888[12] fp, and one for use with the FPA. I don't remember what they're called, but if you look at the files in /usr/lib it should be obvious. Since those libraries are part of the standard SunOS distribution, studying the SunOS source code should allow one to glean all the programming info. FPAs are neat. If I recall correctly they use Weitek WTL1164 and WTL1165 chips. Very nice. :-) > Also, before I pop in to motorols.com, does anyone have a quick little > snippet of code to excersize a 68882? I just upgraded my SUN-3/280 to a > '882, and I want to verify that everything's working right before I solder > in some sockets and start playing with the clock. Also under SunOS4, there's a program called "mc68881version" or something very similar. That'll tell you what rev your 68881/68882 is, and I seem to remember it saying something about performance also, but it's been a very long time since I last messed with this and I may not be remembering that part correctly. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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HP9000/C110 Video

by dittman＠dittman.net

I just got done installing HP/UX 11i on my C110. I was using 1024x768 @60Hz for the monitor settings, but after I was done installing I moved the box to my KVM switch and changed the settings to 1280x1024 @75Hz. With that setting the display blanks for a half second every few seconds. Is there a reason for that? Also, how can I tell which video card I have installed without pulling the card? -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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Drive inventory

by jwbirdsa＠picarefy.com

tony writes: >One nasty that I've come across is that many 9 track QIC24 tape drives >can do QIC11 as well. And they can do the 4 track QIC11. But you have a >similar sort of problem to using 40 cylinder disks in 80 cylinder drives. >Reading is fine, but don't try writing to an already-written tape. Actually, it's even a bit funkier than that. I spent a lot of time messing around with the tape drives that same with Sun-2's (QIC-11) and Sun-3's (QIC-24). SunOS on a Sun-3 had two devices for each tape drive, which determined whether it used QIC-11 or QIC-24, and for reading it was smart enough to autodetect and use the correct format regardless of which device you used. So far so good. I started out with Sun-3's, and for a while I didn't think there was actually any difference between the two devices, since I could get approximately the same capacity (~60M) on the tape using either one, whereas QIC-11 is supposed to only be 20M. When I got into Sun-2's, I discovered that there was a difference, and I had to use the correct device on a -3 when prepping a tape for use on a -2. In addition, I had to be very careful not to overrun the 20M limit, because the drives in the -2's would only read 20M, per the spec. As long as I wrote less than 20M, in QIC-11 format, the tapes would work fine, but I had to enforce the 20M limit manually. It took some investigation to discover that the QIC-11 standard was at some point extended from four tracks to nine tracks, and obviously the QIC-24 drives used in the -3's supported the extended standard. I wish SunOS had included a third device to allow distinguishing between four-track and nine-track QIC-11, but perhaps the drive or the drive/SCSI bridge didn't provide the necessary pseudo-EOT notification. --James B.

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