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OT Quad audio amps (was: cleaning pots on my vintage audio am p)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Chad Fernandez [mailto:fernande@internet1.net] > In order to really use it, you have to be playing a Quadraphonic > recorded record right? LP's were it back then, right? It must have a quadraphonic line-in if it's worth having around at all. :) (Hey, my <on topic>SGI has one...) Seriously, though, it's just an amplifier. It shouldn't matter what you're running through it. The signal will be analog only, of course, so no SPDIF without a converter. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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MIDI on an Atari ST

by csmith＠amdocs.com

Hi everybody, Here's an odd one. Hypothetically, if I have a keyboard, with no internal sampler (a hypothetical Ensoniq ZR-76, say... for which I could probably never hope to find the sampler upgrade board ;), and would like to use an Atari ST to do some sampling (and play back of samples, too -- triggered by the keyboard), is there a way to do it? I'm not familiar with Atari ST software, but I just happen to have an ST520 setting around not doing much, and wonder whether it could be used for this purpose. ISTR that STs had decent MIDI capabilities for the time. Otherwise, what sort of MIDI-ish stuff can be done with this machine? It might make a good secondary sequencer, patch editor, etc, anyway... Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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PDP11 Redux, or Behind-The-Scenes Bull

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 23, Doc wrote: > And which brand/type of cyanoacrylic will e use to affix the > virtual pike to the virtual wall? > > Yes, Dave, I know. Virtual KrazyGlue. Nonono...Virtual epoxy. Mix the virtual base and the virtual hardener...hey wait, I dated her! -Dave "Virtual Epoxy Resin" McGuire -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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eBay - Completely Off

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> > How's this for clueless eBay? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2004963299 > -- > Eric Dittman > dittman(a)dittman.net > Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/ > They might have picked that price by doing a search of dealer websites. Besides thats the BIN price. Nothing says you couldn't get it for something like $1. I'd be tempted to bid, but the cost of shipping scares me. Ah.... I think I see your point. A VAX-4000/300 that they're claiming is a 150Mhz Alpha? Zane

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eBay - Completely Off

by CordaAJ＠nswc.navy.mil

Wouldn't it be neat if we could get a bunch of us to bid on this in $0.01 increments? Perhaps by the end of the auction, it might be up to 50 or 60 cents? Unfortulately, someone might actually want it, and I'd hate to ruin their chances :-) BTW, this is _not_ a cut on VAXes... I _like_ the critters, and have a few myself :-) -al- -acorda(a)1bigred.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Dittman [mailto:dittman@dittman.net] > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 6:22 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: eBay - Completely Off > > > How's this for clueless eBay? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2004963299 > -- > Eric Dittman > dittman(a)dittman.net > Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/ >

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free for pickup

by fernande＠internet1.net

Hell0, Anybody need any plastic case parts from a DEC R400x DSSI expansion cabinet? I believe most of the parts fit the BA440 case, as well. I don't have the base, However. While not really part of the case, I do have the backplane, as well. Please reply off list. Thanks, Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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This is funny (ebay)

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>SCSI to serial cable :-) > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2004730888 So how reliable is the person's comment that it is "well used, but very reliable". If they have been plugging it into a serial port, it hasn't been doing a thing... if they have been pluging it into a SCSI port and THOUGHT it was serial... can they be trusted to know that it is "reliable". -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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This is funny (ebay)

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>I think this cable is for an external SCSI Iomega Zip drive. The Zip drive >has a DB25 connector on the back but it is a SCSI interface. The drive is >at work and I am at home so I may be in error. No... the zip drive uses a DB25 to DB25 cable. This cable (DB25->Blue Ribbon 50) is commonly used with Mac SCSI ports... but also found on many other SCSI 1 connectors. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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This is funny (ebay)

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Frankly, I don't find it funny, but I do find it a good buy. $3 (buy-it-now) >for a DB25<=>SCSI adapter cable is a pretty good buy if you need one. Without knowing the quality of the cable... it actually is NOT a very good buy. Yes, the price for the cable is great, but you also need to factor in $6 shipping. That makes it $9 total... I can buy cheap ones of these NEW at my local CompUSA for $12... so $3 more gets you a brand new one guarenteed to work (or at least can be returned when it doesn't). Of course, that is for a cheap one... which tend to not be reliable in their own right. If you are looking for a good quality one, prices start at $25 and up (and if the ebay'd one is good quality, then it would be a great price... but there is no clue who makes it, or how beat up it is) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Recent transputer additions

by RMeenaks＠olf.com

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PDP11 Redux, or Behind-The-Scenes Bull

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Y'all, I posted a couple of days ago with questions concerning the value of, and locating info for, a PDP11/93, for which I'm negotiating . I got some good responses on-list, and a couple of very helpful suggestions off-list. And today, one enterprising soul, a long-standing list subscriber, found MDR's website from my email address. He both emailed and called my boss today trying to buy the machine out from under me. His statement to Mark, that he thought I was trying to cheat my company of fair value, would have rung a lot less false had he (A) Done me the courtesy of trying to clarify the situation with me first, (B) Not also expressed what Mark called "near-rabid" interest in owning the machine himself, and (C) Not asked Mark specifically to refrain from telling me about it. Fortunately for me, Mark Rodriguez was my friend long before he became my boss. For the record, my employer knows that some of what I pull out of the pile is for my collection, and some gets sold. He rather expects that I make a profit. As long as he gets more than the scrappers pay, he feels that he's ahead. As far as the idea that I should tell *any* prospective seller what I might charge for the item I'm buying, *if* I resell it, that's just ridiculous. Mark's impression, which I trust, was NOT that this person was trying to protect MDR from being cheated. Mark believes that it was an outright attempt to make sure that the caller got first crack at a PDP11/93. I think that truly sucks. If this is the way we are, I'll be unsubscribing damn soon. And yes, I know who it was. Doc

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eBay - Completely Off

by dittman＠dittman.net

How's this for clueless eBay? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2004963299 -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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IBM 7012 front

by red＠bears.org

Stupid question time. What's the secret trick to pulling off the front panel of an IBM RS/6000 type 7012 so that the devices in the front drive bays can be removed? ok r.

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SPAM - RFC from list admin

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: William Donzelli [mailto:aw288@osfn.org] > I would like to see some reasonably strict moderation, so we > can cut out > all of the off topic stuff before it (always) gets out of > hand. Off topic, > meaning Microsoft/AOL bashing, PeeCees, cars (antique or otherwise), Not to be picky, but: AOLs early (still bad) software ran on _on topic machines_ Microsofts early (still bad) software ran on _on topic machines_ PeeCees (I assume in the IBM sense) older than 10 years, are, according to the FAQ, and no matter how much you or I may dislike them _on topic machines_ The spark computer in an older car is arguably an _on topic machine_ > politics, complaining about SPAM, Linux, guns, food, and at > least fifty Linux runs on _on topic machines_ > other topics that have made the rounds that have nothing to > do with old > computing. Well, anyway, my point is that you can't just unilaterally ban all of those topics; it would require some very careful reading on the moderator's part. It may not be feasible. Now since discussing list policies is probably off topic, (not to mention boring) I'll stop. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Still trying to netboot 6300

by setala＠elisa.fi

Ok, now got a little further using TERTIARY_VMB.EXE .. and to next problem. >>> B/R5:101/X:D/B:6 ET0 Initializing system. F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # A A . . M M M . . . . . . P TYP o o . . + + + . . . . . . + STF . . . . . . . . . . . . . B BPD . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ETF . . . . . . . . . . . . . B BPD . . . . . . . . . + . . . . + . XBI D + . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + . XBI E + . . . . B1 A2 A1 . . . . . . . ILV . . . . 32 32 32 . . . . . . . 96 Mb ROM = 6.0 EEPROM = 2.0/6.0 SN = GA92000372 Loading system software. Filename: TERTIARY_VMB.EXE The filename for NICDrom MOP boot is: TERTIARY_VMB.EXE * Passing control to transfer address %VAXcluster, system loaded from node VAXVMS (AA-00-04-00-01-04) %VAXcluster, PE boot driver timer control value = 00002710 %VAXcluster, creating channel, disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, opening virtual circuit, disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, PE boot driver successfully initialized, disk server VAXVMS Bootfile:SYSBOOT.EXE SYSBOOT> CONTINUE %SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT Mapping the SYSDUMP.DMP on the System Disk%VAXcluster, checking for listen timeout %VAXcluster, checking for listen timeout %VAXcluster, listen timeout, disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, no connection to disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, closing virtual circuit, disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, attempting to reconnect to a disk server %VAXcluster, creating channel, disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, opening virtual circuit, disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, connected to disk server VAXVMS %SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT SYSDUMP.DMP on System Disk successfully mapped %SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT Mapping PAGEFILE.SYS on the System Disk %SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT SAVEDUMP parameter not set to protect the PAGEFILE.SYS%VAXcluste r, checking for listen timeout %VAXcluster, checking for listen timeout %VAXcluster, listen timeout, disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, no connection to disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, closing virtual circuit, disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, attempting to reconnect to a disk server %VAXcluster, creating channel, disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, opening virtual circuit, disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, connected to disk server VAXVMS OpenVMS (TM) VAX Version V7.2 Major version id = 1 Minor version id = 0 %VAXcluster, PE boot driver timer control value = 00002710 %VAXcluster, PE boot driver initialization failed, maximum retry limit exceeded %EXECINIT, error initializing boot device - R0 = 00000054 ?06 Halt instruction executed PC = 85CBC5BF -- Saku Set?l? System Planning Manager Kolumbus Oy http://www.kolumbus.com/ Elisa Communications Group

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I need an RM03...

by DSEAGRAV＠toad.xkl.com

I need an RM03, preferrably within sane driving distance of Peoria, IL. Having a KS10 as a paperweight is absolutely no fun. I can trade PDP-11 stuff for one, I have all sorts of 11 kit that I'd be more than willing to trade for KS10 stuff. Also, if anyone has the 120V-AC plug that goes in a TM02, I am short one of those as well - I have the 220 volt version (but the rest of the drive is all 120 volt parts; Odd!) Basically, I'm sick of using the KS10 as just emulation validation and I want to get it running. ^_^ -------

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HP Scanjet interface

by jwbirdsa＠picarefy.com

>> To whomever(s) were looking for one of these, I scored out out of a junk >> bin today. It's an HP C2502-66500, an 8-bit card with an NCR 53C400A on it, >> a DB25F port, and a "HP ScanJet Scanner" label on the back panel. Condition >> unknown but physically it's in near-mint shape. > >From the number, it is for Scanjet IIP, IIC, etc. - the later true SCSI >series. Oops! There were several similar HP cards with other numbers and no labels in the bin, if somebody can provide me with the numbers of interest I can go back and see what I can find. --James B.

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RS/6000 Diags

by vance＠ikickass.org

4.3.3 can still make diagnostic floppies, right? I need a set of AIX 4 dianostic floppies. I would be eternally grateful to whomever could help me. Peace... Sridhar

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MIDI on an Atari ST

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Christopher Smith <csmith(a)amdocs.com> > Here's an odd one. Hypothetically, if I have a keyboard, with no > internal sampler (a hypothetical Ensoniq ZR-76, say... for which > I could probably never hope to find the sampler upgrade board ;), > and would like to use an Atari ST to do some sampling (and play > back of samples, too -- triggered by the keyboard), is there a > way to do it? You cannot transfer a sample to a non-sampling synth. All you can send it is MIDI and patch data. > I'm not familiar with Atari ST software, but I just happen to > have an ST520 setting around not doing much, and wonder whether > it could be used for this purpose. ISTR that STs had decent > MIDI capabilities for the time. MIDI and sampling are unrelated. > Otherwise, what sort of MIDI-ish stuff can be done with this > machine? > > It might make a good secondary sequencer, patch editor, etc, > anyway... Sure, as long as you can obtain or write a sequencer and patch editor. The patch editor has to fit both the Atari *and* the target synth. Glen 0/0

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OT Quadraphonic audio media

by r.stek＠snet.net

I'm joining this thread a little late (only read the digest version every few days or so), so pardon me if you already have covered this. There were no quad turntables per se (except those hawked as such at the very low end). For CD-4 quad LP's (championed by RCA) you needed a cartridge with response up to 45,000 - 50,000 Hz, many coming with a special cut to the actual stylus (Stanton called theirs 'quadrahedrial' IIRC, and there was also the Shibata stylus). The quad channels were physically encoded on the record, and you needed the cartridge and a CD-4 demodulator, either as an add-on unit, or built into a receiver. I vaguely recall a TT or two with a demodulator built in, but they were rare. Marantz, Harmon-Kardon, Panasonic, and Pioneer all made demodulators. The demodulators come up frequently on eBay, and there's a guy on eBay who still sells new CD-4 cartridges. And TT's are still available - new ones can run from a few hundred for something decent to literally $10,000 and up (honest!) with the average high-end TT being between $800 and $1200. For once, eBay is reasonable and can get you something decent for between $100 and $200 (if you know your TT's). The two major matrixed (electrically encoded) systems were CBS-Sony SQ format and the Sansui QS format. The first decoders did only a little more than presenting a L-R 'ambiance' signal (the Dynaco Quadaptor did this without needing two additional amplifier channels), but partial front-back logic and then full-logic decoders were developed to provide greater separation. Electro-Voice also had their own matrix, but switched over to being compatible SQ when they saw which way the wind was blowing. The SQ matrix encoding is still the basis of the multi-channel home theater systems you buy today. A little web-searching will find you many quad sites. Bob Stek Saver of Lost Sols (and old quad equipment)

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Update on Save The Computer Garage effort

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> > Jim and I are now working on getting the back rent paid. Once that's > > under control, we'll then start figuring out the best option for getting > > the collection back to his barn in Kansas. > > Hmm Red Slippers??? Well it worked from OZ. > Better get more room out there, because on your way back you could > make a few stops, wheel and deal and get twice the collection. :) Hmmm.... If Jim has a barn out in Kansas now, it sounds to me like he needs to stop by my storage units when he's retrieving his stuff. I've got more stuff I could dump on him (of course the last time it was his one son taking most of the stuff). Zane

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HP Scanjet interface

by jwbirdsa＠picarefy.com

To whomever(s) were looking for one of these, I scored out out of a junk bin today. It's an HP C2502-66500, an 8-bit card with an NCR 53C400A on it, a DB25F port, and a "HP ScanJet Scanner" label on the back panel. Condition unknown but physically it's in near-mint shape. Anybody who wants it can have it for the buck I paid plus postage. --James B.

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RS/6000 Keyboard

by vance＠ikickass.org

I *really* need to borrow one from someone. And I need it right away. Can anyone help? Peace... Sridhar

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home-made Qbus card, and other stuff

by aek＠spies.com

> Everybody save whatever old > manuals you have for *any*thing electronic, eventually someone will > need them and you can then sell them at an inflated price! Your charma points will be higher if you scan them and put them someplace where others can get to them. Who knows, maybe someone will do the same for you.

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home-made Qbus card, and other stuff

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > Everybody save whatever old > > manuals you have for *any*thing electronic, eventually someone will > > need them and you can then sell them at an inflated price! > > Your charma points will be higher if you scan them and put them someplace > where others can get to them. Who knows, maybe someone will do the > same for you. Some live on the wheel, others get run over by it... ;)

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Collection available....

by LFessen106＠aol.com

> Do you happen to have a 128D in the collection? What is in the Commodore > collection? > > Thanks, > > Bryan Nope.. I believe there are 2 or 3 breadbox 64's, 3 flat 128's, a 16, a +4, a Vic20, Monitors, Printers, reu, 1581, piles of disk drives and disks, cables, etc...misc.. -Linc.

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Anybody need some IBM 4 MB SIMMs? FRU 70F9973

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I have two cards that have eight of these on each one. A quick search <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ibm+memory+FRU+70f9973&btnG=Google+Sea rch> shows that the SIMMs are used on the Artic 960 card and one some IBM RS 6000s. These are parity SIMMs and look like regular PC SIMMs except that the notch in the bottom corner is much shorter therefore these won't fit some/all(?) PCs. Trade for ??? Joe

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Collection available....

by LFessen106＠aol.com

Anyone interested in Apple II and Commodore computers and associated peripherals? ?I have a sizeable collection that needs a new home. ?Price or trade is negotiable.. ?I am looking to get a better machine to use as my main Linux box - somewhere around 500mhz would be great.. ?Other things I am looking for are Playstation games (especially anything using a lightgun), and a video camera with a composite output that I can tinker with. The collection is located in Easton Pennsylvania and my preference would be *not* to ship it (there is quite a bit). I would rather not break it up piece by piece either however splitting it up between Apple and Commodore is not out of the question. -Linc. In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right... Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.

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AEHR / Computest CPM computer?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I picked up a portable computer since it had a disk in it that said CPM. I can't get it to boot but it looks interesting so I thought I'd try to find ut more about it before I decide to fix or junk it. The computer is labeled "AEHR Test System ATS-312". It's about 1 foot tall x 1 foot wide x 26 inches deep. It has a keybord that folds down from the front and exposes two 5 1/4" disk drives and a built in CRT. Inside most of the cards are marked "Computest Inc Made in USA" but the motherboard is marked "Fox Motherboard II". A couple of the plug in cards init are marked "64 point switchboard II" and have 64 pin ribbon cable sockets on the back. Underneath it has what looks like the CPU card. On it has what I think is the CPU. It's hard to read but it looks like it says "SGS Z84008B-1". Is anyone familar with that chip? I can't find any record on it. Does anyone know anything about the computer itself? AEHR makes test equipment, mainly for IC wafer testing. I couldn't fin anything out about Fox or Computest. They're both common names but all the occurances that I cound find were for unrelated businesses. Joe

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Still trying to netboot 6300

by setala＠elisa.fi

Sridhar, anyway your comment about R5 got me experimenting and I found about the tertiary_vmb.exe. R5:0 does not work at all. >From LANACP logs I can see that 6300 downloads NISCS_LOAD.EXE, but after that it just freezes. 22-FEB-2002 13:12:02.04 Volunteered to load request on ESA0 from LARGE Requested file: DISK$OVMSVAXSYS:<SYS10.>[SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]NISCS_LOAD.EXE 22-FEB-2002 13:12:04.35 Load succeeded for LARGE on ESA0 MOP V3 format, Tertiary loader, DISK$OVMSVAXSYS:<SYS10.>[SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]NI SCS_LOAD.EXE Packets: 544 sent, 544 received Bytes: 136509 sent, 1632 received, 133241 loaded Elapsed time: 00:00:02.13, 62554 bytes/second But by setting R5:100 and using the TERTIARY_VMB.EXE it works better; and then TERTIARY_VMB loads NISCS_LOAD.EXE. 22-FEB-2002 17:36:27.60 Volunteered to load request on ESA0 from LARGE Requested file: LAN$DLL:TERTIARY_VMB.EXE 22-FEB-2002 17:36:28.82 Load succeeded for LARGE on ESA0 MOP V3 format, Tertiary loader, LAN$DLL:TERTIARY_VMB.EXE Packets: 318 sent, 318 received Bytes: 79736 sent, 954 received, 77824 loaded Elapsed time: 00:00:01.05, 74118 bytes/second 22-FEB-2002 17:36:38.36 Volunteered to load request on ESA0 from LARGE Requested file: DISK$OVMSVAXSYS:<SYS10.>[SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]NISCS_LOAD.EXE 22-FEB-2002 17:36:42.08 Load succeeded for LARGE on ESA0 MOP V3 format, System image, DISK$OVMSVAXSYS:<SYS10.>[SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]NISCS _LOAD.EXE Packets: 544 sent, 544 received Bytes: 136541 sent, 1632 received, 133277 loaded Elapsed time: 00:00:03.55, 37543 bytes/second On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Julius Sridhar wrote: > I thought you were trying to boot from an InfoServer image. If you are, > then you have to set R5. If you are simply trying to clusterboot, then > R5:0 should work. Is the system disk set up properly on the cluster boot > server and is the boot server configured to serve disks? > > Peace... Sridhar > > -- Saku Set?l? System Planning Manager Kolumbus Oy http://www.kolumbus.com/ Elisa Communications Group

24 years, 4 months

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Sun Creator 3D "stereo"

by root＠diablonet.net

Hi there! The "stereo" jack is not for audio at all -- rather, it is for a pair of LCD shutter goggles that work in conjunction with certain monitors to display a stereoscopic 3D image. This functionality is REALLY common on higher-end video boards (e.g. SGI, Intergraph, etc), and apparently was used primarily in computer aided chemistry visualization and things like that. I don't have a pair of requisite shutter glasses to try the concept, but it always seemed kind of chintzy to be used in a high-end setup. Sort of like a pre-HMD semi-immersive sort of display technology, although it's still around... Kind regards, Sean -- Sean Caron http://www.diablonet.net scaron(a)engin.umich.edu root(a)diablonet.net

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"Programmer's Panel" for disk drives

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Today I spotted what looked like programmer's panel. However upon inspection it turns out that it's a control/test panel for some kind of disk drive. I've seen several of these before so it must have been a MOL standard device despite it's decidedly homemade appearance (bright finished aluminium box about 15" cubed. A sticker inside said that it was made by Magnetic Peripherals. Is anyone familar with these? What type drives coud it operate? Is it worth picking up? This one appeared pretty intact, some key tops were missing but it had the cables still stored inside of it. Joe

24 years, 4 months

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DEC Professional /380 color option

by emu＠ecubics.com

Hi, anybody here knows, if I can use the color option of a /350 in a /380 PRO ? If not, what is the right one to use there ? cheers & thanks P.S. Talking about the CTI boards 001002 & 001403

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OT Quadraphonic audio media

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > In order to really use it, you have to be playing a Quadraphonic > > recorded record right? LP's were it back then, right? > > Wrong. Some quad reel-to-reel tapes were produced. LPs were *mostly* it > -- Dark Side of the Moon was probably the biggest selling quad LP. The > opening "cash register" sounds on "Money" produced an excellent effect. Woa! Best selling? The copy I have is the only other one I've ever been aware of! Now I know of two.... > There were at least two different quad formats. IIRC, one required > decoding in the hardware (my Fisher has an "SQ decoder" switch). > > I'll bet it's next to impossible to find a working quad turntable these > days. I could convert some stereo recordings to "simulated" quad for > playback on a four-track cassette, but it would be more fun to find a > 'table and some original quad records. The British import copy of Electric Ladyland says it's stereo, but it is in fact SQ-encoded; listen to Jimi's guitar swirl around all four speakers on "And the Gods made Love". -dq

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OT Vinyl to MP3

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> > I'm about to experiment with hooking a 20 year old Technics > turntable up to my B/W G3 using a small pre-amp between them. It'll > allow me to convert all my old vinyl to MP3 Not to suggest that your uninformed, but you *do* know that MP3 is lossy compression? I know some people like MP3 due to the small size of the files, but they sound like dirt to me. Why not just convert 'em to CD-ROMs??? Glen 0/0

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OT Quadraphonic audio media

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> There were three competing systems: QS (Sansui), SQ (Sony) and CD-4 > (JVC). Only the CD-4, which used a supersonic subcarrier a la FM > broadcasting, required a special stylus on the cartridge (Shibata). I bought and assembled the Southwest Technical Products CD-4 decoder, but could never get it operational (SWTP == on-topic). If anyone on the list knows of anyone with experience with this decoder, I'd appreciate a pointer in their direction...

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Bering HP-IB disk drive?

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote: > Is anyone familar with the Bering HP-IB disk drives? I found one that > looks like it uses the 8" Bernoulli cartridges. I'm not really familiar with them, but this is the sort of business that Bering has been in for a while: plug-compatible replacements for HP-IB disc and tape drives. More recently they have used Zip and Jaz and magneto-optical drives. I wouldn't be surprised to find that this plays like a 790[567]. They have a web site at http://www.bering.com/ but it doesn't go much into their older products. You might be able to send them e-mail about it though. -Frank McConnell

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OT Quadraphonic audio media

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Chad Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net> > I don't do any recording, although, I do have some very old records that > I've thought about copying to CD. I don't have a turn table that would > be handy, However :-( Showing My Age Dept: Turntables seem to be more available now. I went out to purchase one around '94 or so and at the first three stereo shops I visited, the young person behind the counter said "You mean a record player?? Why do you want one of those?" Sheesh. > What's the Joystick for? Spacial control -- left, right, front and rear. This replaces the two-directional balance control found on stereo amps. > In order to really use it, you have to be playing a Quadraphonic > recorded record right? LP's were it back then, right? Wrong. Some quad reel-to-reel tapes were produced. LPs were *mostly* it -- Dark Side of the Moon was probably the biggest selling quad LP. The opening "cash register" sounds on "Money" produced an excellent effect. There were at least two different quad formats. IIRC, one required decoding in the hardware (my Fisher has an "SQ decoder" switch). I'll bet it's next to impossible to find a working quad turntable these days. I could convert some stereo recordings to "simulated" quad for playback on a four-track cassette, but it would be more fun to find a 'table and some original quad records. Glen 0/0

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Trying to netboot a VAX 6000-300 (6300)

by setala＠setala.net

On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Eric Dittman wrote: > Okay, the ISL is loaded. What did you get when you tried > to select the VAXVMS_072 service (I think that's the name)? Well, actually there is no infoserver running. Just found the file name >from OpenVMS installation documents and also from OpenVMS 7.2 disk, copied it to [MOM$SYSTEM] and surprised it worked at all. Anyway that proves to me that the network is not totally broken. Regards, --Saku

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Magnetic media and mold cleanup

by tothwolf＠concentric.net

Well, I'm sure most everyone has heard about the awful flood we had down here in Houston last year. Quite abit of stuff I had stored away was damaged, but not totally ruined. Today I found several boxes of 10MB Bernoulli cartridges I had stored away, which were covered with a gray powder-like mold. It seems to be easy to clean off the plastic housing, but I found it has also started to grow on the magnetic media itself. Does anyone know of a way to remove the mold that won't damage the magnetic media? Also, does anyone remember the trick to opening the shutter on these 8" cartridges? -Toth

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Questions about a PDP11/93

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 23:56:51 -0500 > From: Chad Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net> > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Questions about a PDP11/93 > > Doc Shipley wrote: > > So the questions: > > Can anybody point me to pictures of an 11/93 that's NOT in a BA23? > > The BA23 is rackmountable. Maybe it is a rack with two PDP11/93's in > it. > > > What's it worth, obsession aside? It's probably going to cost me about > > $0.50/lb, USD. That's delivered to my garage. I'm guessing that's in > > the $200 realm. > > I think, the 11/93 is a 20mhz J11 CPU. I've seen the 18mhz J11 cpu go > for well over $100 on Ebay, so I'd think the 11/93's cpu would be worth > quite a bit. Plus, I don't usually hear of the 11/93 on this list, so > that may mean that they are one of the more rare PDP11's. Comments > anyone? Maybe it is a dual-box BA23 system. You can tell by looking at the back of the box(es) where the dual-box system has one (6U) back cover spanning the two boxes. Does the rack have extra-thick side panels with cooling fans in them? That would be the "elephant ears" add-on which was typical for such a system. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu

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%20NCR%20Safari%203115

by Blixxx6355＠aol.com

do you have an adaptor for it. would you be willing ot sell it..blixxx6355(a)aol.com

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Honeywell 316 Question

by univac2＠earthlink.net

I picked up a Honeywell 316 from a local scrap yard today. I gave the inside a good looking over, and it looks perfect. It's also so clean, that I don't really think I could help it by cleaning the boards. So I guess I'm ready to power it up, which leads me to my question: Lacking a power cord, how do I plug it in? The power supply has no cord coming out of it. What is does have is a standard 3-prong plug sticking out of the back, just like the kind that plugs into the wall. So, can I just run an extension cord from it to the wall, or is there something more to it than that? Owen

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STAPLES STORES WILL TAKE OLD COMPUTERS

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Did you use the right felt washers sold for VCR repair, or try to use the >stuff from a craft shop? The latter is not going to work properly. Yeah... I specifically bought VCR clutch felts. When those didn't work, I considered buying craft store felt, but never saw anything remotely close to the right thing (craft store felt is too soft and flexible) >And let me guess, service manuals are unobtainable? Bingo... if I was an authorized repair shop, I could buy a manual... but then, if I was an authorized repair shop, they would look up the part number for me, and sell it to me. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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NEC Multisync Color Monitor - $25

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Vintage Computer Festival [mailto:vcf@vintage.org] > I have here an excess NEC MultiSync Color monitor (model > JC-1401P3A) that > is very useful for the vintage microcomputer enthusiast. It I have one of these myself. It works well, though I have trouble getting it to connect to the monitor port of my Amiga 1000. Haven't tried that in a while. Come to think about it, I ought to see if it will attach to the Atari ST. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Computer Garage Fund Raiser Status

by vcf＠vintage.org

The initial response to the Computer Garage fundraiser has been phenomenal. So far, we've gotten pledges worth $821. We need just $179 and we're at the $1000 goal. The generosity of the pledges received so far is wonderful. People from all over the world have pledged. It's great to see such a strong community spirit. I'm hoping that by the end of today we'll have the $1000 raised, and then we can move on to phase two, which is to get the money into the right places to secure the Computer Garage collection, and then onto phase three which is to move it to Kansas. Thanks very much to all who have pledged to contribute. There is still time to contribute. If you want to use PayPal to contribute, you can send it to <vcf(a)vintage.org>. You can also send a check to: Vintage Computer Festival STCG Fund 1141 Catalina Drive #283 Livermore, California 94550 Please make the check payable to: Vintage Computer Festival. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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HP Cxxx drive rails, & moulding plastic

by timwa＠snowgoons.fsnet.co.uk

Tothwolf wrote: > On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Tim wrote: >> I've got an HP C180 and want to fit some more drives, but I'm short of >> the plastic rails you use to fit them. > > What do these look like? I've got piles of rails I'll likely never use, > but I wouldn't know HP rails from another type... As promised, I took a couple of snaps last night with the IndyCam (the only thing that keeps this almost on topic :-). Apologies for the poor quality, but you can't do a lot better with those things <g>: http://213.152.32.6/hp/driverail1.jpg http://213.152.32.6/hp/driverail2.jpg If you do have any to spare which you could sell me, I would of course be eternally grateful... Otherwise, it's off to the railway modelling shop to follow the excellent suggestion of a resin moulding kit! Cheers, Tim. -- Tim Walls at home in Croydon - Reply to tim(a)snowgoons.fsnet.co.uk

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Trying to netboot a VAX 6000-300 (6300)

by setala＠elisa.fi

Hi all, I have been trying to netboot a Vax 6300 for a while now. Only succeeded loading netbsd kernel via netbsd mopd, not too much help since netbsd does not support Vax 6000 yet. Another thing what works is "infoserver mopboot". Ultrix 4.5 diskless boot does not work, OpenVMS 7.2 vaxcluster diskless satellite boot does not work. My Microvax 3100 and 3400 work fine on both cases. I've pulled out all extra processors and interfaces, only ethernet left. --clip--(So here's the Infoserver mopboot image which loads from OpenVMS 7.2 vaxcluster) >>> B/R5:100/X:D/B:6 ET0 Initializing system. F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # A A . . M M M . . . . . . P TYP o o . . + + + . . . . . . + STF . . . . . . . . . . . . . B BPD . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ETF . . . . . . . . . . . . . B BPD . . . . . . . . . + . . . . + . XBI D + . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + . XBI E + . . . . B1 A2 A1 . . . . . . . ILV . . . . 32 32 32 . . . . . . . 96 Mb ROM = 6.0 EEPROM = 2.0/6.0 SN = GA92000372 Loading system software. Filename: ISL_LVAX_072.SYS The filename for NICDrom MOP boot is: ISL_LVAX_072.SYS * Passing control to transfer address Network Initial System Load Function Version 1.2 FUNCTION FUNCTION ID 1 - Display Menu 2 - Help 3 - Choose Service 4 - Select Options 5 - Stop Enter a function ID value: --clip-- (earlier try with VMS, the same problem happens with Ultrix 4.5) >>> SHOW BOOT DEFAULT /XMI:E /BI:6 MUA6 KOE /XMI:D /BI:6 ET0 >>> BOOT KOE Initializing system. F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # A A . . M M M . . . . P P P TYP o o . . + + + . . . . + + + STF . . . . . . . . . . . E E B BPD . . . . . . . . . . . + + + ETF . . . . . . . . . . . E E B BPD . . . . . . . . . + . . . . + . XBI D + . . . . . . . . . + . + . . + . XBI E + . . . . B1 A2 A1 . . . . . . . ILV . . . . 32 32 32 . . . . . . . 96 Mb ROM = 6.0 EEPROM = 2.0/6.0 SN = GA92000372 ?2D For Secondary Processor 2 ?59 System serial number mismatch. Secondary processor has GA82000002 ?2D For Secondary Processor 3 ?59 System serial number mismatch. Secondary processor has GA82000002 Loading system software. * Passing control to transfer address Any suggestions? Thanks. --Saku Setala saku.setala(a)kolumbus.fi

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Not As OT As Driving Rants....

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

But still a couple of years "green". I found a copy of Yggdrasil Plug-n-Play Linux today, the User's Manual, CD & boot floppy. It's the Summer '94 edition; Linux v1.1. I've been looking through the HCL (so I can install it, of course!) and IDE/ATAPI CD-ROMs aren't even mentioned. Neither are any of the graphics adapters I own. Although I think the ET6000 will pretend to be an ET4k. But this bloat-hog demands 4M RAM and at least 3M diskspace, recommended 300M. This might get hairy... Doc

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Bering HP-IB disk drive?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Is anyone familar with the Bering HP-IB disk drives? I found one that looks like it uses the 8" Bernoulli cartridges. Joe

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