- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I think this one just squeaks by the 10-year rule... Today I visited the high school I used to go to, and walked out with an Amiga 2000 with a Video Toaster. (Yes, I legally walked out with it...) Anyhow, I've got the thing 'seemingly' working, but the manual for the Toaster says that it either needs an RGB monitor connected or a terminator on the RGB port. Does anyone here know of a source of cables for this thing (I'm a tad low on 23pin dsub connectors) or a pair of connectors so I can connect my A1084S up to it? For now I'm using the monochrome NTSC output from the computer, but I would like to have a color display (and a properly functioning Toaster). -- Pat

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Altos 580

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

I've been looking for info on an Altos 580. It's pretty thin. The little I've found shows the db25 connectors as rs232s, and mentions terminals. Does that mean I can get a console on my trusty MicroTerm? If not, are there any peripherals anywhere? Display, keyboard, an OS maybe? Doc

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OT: name that computer

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Oops...that was supposed to be for Sellam directly. -----Original Message----- From: Cini, Richard [mailto:RCini@congressfinancial.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 12:33 PM To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' Subject: RE: OT: name that computer Sellam: Are you planning for VCFE 2.0? Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile) -----Original Message----- From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:49 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: OT: name that computer On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Chad Fernandez wrote: > I'm not that old :-) > > Of course the 50's had there problems too, but they are generally > portrayed as being quite wholesome. I wasn't around, but I suspect they > were. It was probably backlash from WW2. As long as people continue to age, there will always result a large population of curmudgeons who will lament their perception that "things were better in my day". Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Geometric Array Processor board

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Does anyone know much about these? I picked up TWO of these cards today and each one has 144 NCR45CG72 ICs on it. It looks ike EACH IC has 72 microproccesors in it. That makes a total of 20,736 processors!!! Here's a bit that I found while searching the net. IN FACT, these may be the exact cards that this guy is referring to since much of the stuff that I find does orginate at MMC. Joe 9. Geometric Arithmatic Parallel Processor {GAPP}, a real time vision recognition, dynamically partitionable, dynamically fault reconfigurable, array processor (SIMD) for Martin Marietta in Orlando. Each IC contained 72 microprocessors, composed of a single TCU and multiple ALU-register sets. Array grows in X and Y dimensions to match a required image array of pixels matrix, and decimates in time to allow fault reconfiguration and price/performance options. First successful SIMD VLSI. First successful real time image recognition. Responsibility included addition to instruction set {If then, case, etc based on if any, if all, if none}, redesign for performance enhancement, and design of fault reconfiguration switching at internal IC level and external array coordination. Non-classified version is the 45CG72 from NCR.

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HP LJ 2 mobo -> Apple LW 2 NT

by mythtech＠mac.com

>So, to fit the HP formatter board into the Apple chassis, you need to >replace the base tray (so as to provide the font slots), the connectors >on the DC controller board (or maybe just swap the entire board :-(), the >control panel (no way will the HP board drive the Apple LED panel), and >thus part of the outer casing as well. It's possible, but why bother. Yeah really... at that point I might as well either yank the good pickup rollers from the Apple, or for $30 just buy another set. >It would be simpler to swap over the rollers (or the complete pickup >shaft assembly). Those parts are _identical_ between the 2 printers. > >Take off the outer casing at the top (lots of screws, then unplug the >cable to the status LEDs or control panel). Yeah, I have done this repair on my Apple LW IINT once before... I will most likey buy another kit for the HP when the fuser on it dies (it has a nasty scar across it, and is starting to peel... it is still printing fine with no adverse marks, but I suspect in a few months of decent use, that will stop being the case) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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HP LJ 2 mobo -> Apple LW 2 NT

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Whoa.... well, think of this as whole as a learning experience... an >expensive one, but a learning experience nonetheless :-) Well.. it really isn't too expensive... the printer only cost me $20 cash, and about an hour of my time... and the bonus is, by the time I left, I found an employee that could really use a PC printer right in their office, so they are getting the HP later this week. So in the end all worked out well. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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ID these TRW ICs

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Does anyone have a good way to identify ICs made by TRW? I've searched the net and found almost nothing. I'd like to id the LSICs shown in this picture <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/trw/ics.jpg>. The smaller ones are marked TRW 8429/AC 1016J5C8 and the bigger one is marked TRW TD1007J1. The big one is very impressive looking (the pictures don't do it justice). Not only due to it's size but it also has gold leads and a black anodized heatsink with gold lettering epoxied(?) to the top of it and it just looks impressive. These are on a Multibus card that was part of the same system that had the Geometric Array Processors. I think this may have been part of the I/O subsystem that passed data to and from the GAPP. Joe

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HP LJ 2 mobo -> Apple LW 2 NT

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Will the HPLJ2 board fit into the slot underneath the LW2NT? >Does it have the same connector? Humm... I didn't get that far as actually pulling the board. Although, this whole printer has been one slap my head experience. I had a printer die that was hooked up to an NT box to act as a network print spooler (well, actually, the printer works fine, but it needs a new drum and developer kit $200 for the pair, and that isn't worth it for this printer). So I bought the HP from the local salvation army store for $20. When I tried to use it, it was failing to pickup the paper... a new pickup kit is $30 (well worth it for the HP LJ2). But since I had the unused working Apple LW IINT, I figured I could just swap the mobo so I can use the parallel interface to reconnect to my NT spooler. Well... head slap #1... I don't need to replace the pickup rollers... I just needed to clean them, and use a little rubber rejuvenator... now it picks up like a charm. So I do the swap, get it all hooked up to my NT spooler, get everything working... and head into the office of the only computer that matters about printing to it... to find head slap #2... I changed the PC to a Mac last week and totally forgot.... that means I could have just used my Apple LW IINT with a quick and dirty LocalTalk connection! I didn't need to go thru all this buying and fixing and testing of the HP after all! (For the handful of PCs that also print to the printer, I can let them use the NT spooler over a serial connection, and just deal with the painfully slow print speed... the others only print 5 or 6 times a year anyway). So now, later this week... I will change the printer AGAIN, and go to the Apple LW IINT over Localtalk (probably dedicate an old Mac with ethernet to act as a Ethernet to Localtalk bridge). But at least I have a working HP LJ 2 to use elsewhere.... now to find a legal cassette tray for it. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Free stuff in OC, CA - Franklin Ace 1000

by tosteve＠yahoo.com

Free stuff that isn't worth much! Operational Franklin Ace 1000 computer - no drives. Pick-up, or pay for delivery from Irvine, CA. Steve. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/

24 years, 3 months

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HP series 80

by roosmcd＠dds.nl

This weekend I picked up a HP 9915A computer (rackmount HP-85) with 2 HP-IB, serial and BCD card. I've also got the manuals for the expansion cards and a manual for a HP-85. I haven't got the tapes and the keyboard. Does anyone have the pin-out for the connectors on the back? There is a keyboard and a control (=com?) port on the back, but I don't know what I should connect to those. I tried connecting a terminal to the serial card, but there wasn't any output. It gives an error message on the composite video output, so I guess the unit is working OK. And the last question, what are those unlabelled keys on the front of the unit? Are these softkeys like on other Hp equipment? thanks, Michiel

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Punch Card Humor

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I ended up with one awhile back, but it's missing the drive belts for the > rollers. I'd be happy to try that trick out if someone knows where I can > buy the belts for it. A good place to start would be http://www.ncspearson.com -dq

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WTB TU58-FX

by jhfine＠idirect.com

I have been looking for a table top TU-58 with two drives without success. Might anyone have the box for a TU58-FX which does not work, but I may then be able to find the drives separately?

24 years, 3 months

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Power Series

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Tothwolf [mailto:tothwolf@concentric.net] > On Wed, 26 Dec 2001, Christopher Smith wrote: > > Well, on one hand, yes, but on the other hand, I like my > Indigo 2 Elan with > > no texture memory just fine. I'm also considering trying > I didn't know you had another SGI box ;) Yep. > A couple people I've known who ended up with old SGI gear thought they > were going to create some kind of fancy animations with this kind of > hardware, so I never know what to think now. Depends on what you mean by "fancy animations." It will probably do better out of the box than most new peesees depending on what you'd like to animate. (and whether it requires texture memory, of course) Both of my SGIs, for instance, have analog video in/out, which is a start. On the other hand, you can't really do a good animation with anything "out of the box." It usually takes a lot of strange stuff. The graphical prowess of the machines is still something, though. For instance, the ability of the machine to provide individual color-maps for different windows on the screen, without the nasty palette-flashing that's seen in xfree86 on an intel box (for example) when you try the same... > Sounds like you at least have an original VGX chassis then. > It is possible > someone upgraded some of the boards, but the only way you'll > be able to > tell is to pull them and cross reference the part numbers. I'm thinking about doing that. The label on top of the chassis actually says "4D/440 VGX" or something to that effect. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Toshiba 3100SX laptop

by mythtech＠mac.com

>-> It is the laptop, and a toshiba carry bag for it. There was no power >-> supply that I saw, or manuals. > >Doesn't need one. Uses standard 120vac power cord. Humm... maybe I didn't pay enough attention (I wasn't really that interested in it myself), but I could have sworn their was a port marked DC and it was a small 3 pin jack that looked alot like the old Hayes modem power jacks (squarish with the edges cut off). But maybe in my quick glance I either looked at the wrong port, or just had a brain fart at what I was looking at. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Top collectable machines

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

>Out of curiosity, how many here care whether or not the machines they >collect are considered "collectable" or "top collectable?" Isn't the >point of collecting these machines to have fun toys to play with? >Collecting was more fun, and the machines were easier to find, when >nearly everyone considered them worthless a decade or so ago. As many other have said here, I try to hang on to only those machines that I can put to use. One exception would be the various SBCs I own, but you could argue that they are useful for learning about the procerssor they host. Also, like others, nobody is really impressed by my collection. I don't do it for them, I do it for me.... My "lab" is in the finished basement of our new-to-us house (and leaking into the garage). The previous owners left brown shag rug and paneling, so it has that nice '70's look, to match the computers! :-) One friend of my wife, whose husband works for the government, remarked upon coming down the stairs and seeing my stuff scattered about: "This looks like one of those places my husband goes into where the bust the guy for having all his kiddie porn stashed on his computers". She laughed, I didn't... :-( Rich B. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Slightly OT: 8T01 Nixie Decoder/Driver Information Needed

by bill_r＠inetnebr.com

Does anyone have any information (ideally, data sheets) on the 8T01 16-pin DIP Nixie Decoder/Driver IC? I had no luck with the IC Master online or a Google search... -Bill Richman (bill_r(a)inetnebr.com) Web Page: http://incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r Home of the COSMAC Elf Microcomputer Simulator, Fun with Molten Metal, Orphaned Robots, and Technological Oddities.

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Toshiba 3100SX laptop

by mythtech＠mac.com

My local Salvation Army store has a Toshiba 3100SX laptop for $8.00 if anyone wants it. It is the laptop, and a toshiba carry bag for it. There was no power supply that I saw, or manuals. Also, on the back there is a spot for what looks like a modem (don't remember exactly what it said, something about phone interface though)... but other than the cover plate, whatever is supposed to be installed in that spot is missing (there is a whole in the plate, and you can see inside to where something should be). It was there as of Saturday, and they are closed on Sunday's, so it is probably still there. If someone wants it, just let me know, I'll grab it for them and ship it out. Obviously if you want it, you cover actual purchase cost ($7.99 + 6% sales tax) and shipping... I'm not interested in making money off it (but if you want to slip me a buck for picking it up, that's always nice). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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VMS: problems with INITIALIZE MUC6: (TK50)

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, this is a followup to the problem I'm having formatting a TK50 drive with a VMS filesystem, needed to create a diagnostic tape. I am on a VAX 6400 with VMS 5.4 or 7.2 (dual boot so to speak :-), nether works. I do $ INITIALIZE MUC6: ELAN When that runs the tape scrunches and spins happily until suddenly: %PBC0, Port is Reinitializing ( 45 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. %INIT-F-VOLINV, volume is not software enabled then in the error log I find what's attached below. This time, I believe the critical entry is there. Could someone help me interpreting this? I suppose it might just have a data error, but this should really not make the whole thing stop. I had several warnings when I wrote a tape with this drive on a uVAX-II with NetBSD, and it still went on writing it all. So is there an easy fix? Could it be that the TK50 tape doesn't play well with the TQK70 controller? Would it be better if I hooked the TK50 to the DEBNT, but where on the backplane rear do I connect this sort of thing and how is the IDC connector wired on the VAXBI side? thanks for helping out, -Gunther ******************************* ENTRY 3695. ******************************* ERROR SEQUENCE 157. LOGGED ON: SID 0B000006 DATE/TIME 2-MAR-2002 14:18:55.32 SYS_TYPE 02400101 SYSTEM UPTIME: 0 DAYS 00:08:56 SCS NODE: VAX/VMS V5.4 ERL$LOGMESSAGE ENTRY KA64A CPU FW REV# 6. CONSOLE FW REV# 4.0 XMI NODE # 1. I/O SUB-SYSTEM, UNIT _MUC6: MESSAGE TYPE 0002 TAPE MSCP MESSAGE MSLG$L_CMD_REF 6ADA0004 MSLG$W_UNIT 0006 UNIT #6. MSLG$W_SEQ_NUM 0000 SEQUENCE #0. MSLG$B_FORMAT 05 TAPE ERROR MSLG$B_FLAGS 41 SEQUENCE NUMBER RESET OPERATION CONTINUING MSLG$W_EVENT 0068 DATA ERROR READ DATA CHECK MSLG$Q_CNT_ID 132B0008 0342F6A1 UNIQUE IDENTIFIER, F6A1132B0008(X) TAPE CLASS DEVICE TBK70 MSLG$B_CNT_SVR 00 CONTROLLER SOFTWARE VERSION #0. 0C UNIT HARDWARE REVISION #12. MSLG$B_LEVEL 01 MSLG$B_RETRY 2C MSLG$L_GAP_CNT 00000000 GAP COUNT = 0. MSLG$B_FMTR_SVR 00 FORMATTER SOFTWARE VERSION #0. MSLG$B_FMTR_HVR 00 FORMATTER HARDWARE REVISION #0. TK70 DEVICE/CONTROLLER DEPENDENT INFORMATION DRIVE FLAGS 13 CARTRIDGE PRESENT HEAD AT TRACK ZERO POSITIONED AT BOT TRK NUMBER 00 LOGICAL TRACK NUMBER = 0. PHYSICAL BLK# 0004 PHYSICAL BLOCK NUMBER = 4. LOGICAL BLK# 00 LOGICAL BLOCK NUMBER = 0. TAPE POSITION 0100B4 TAPE POSITION = 65716. DRIVE STATE 0A0C RD/WRT STATE 2B3C OPERATION FLGS 01A2 CNTRLR STATUS 02 RECOVERED BY RETRY DRIVE ERR CODE 13 COMMUNICATIONS ERROR ****** ENTRY 3694., ERROR SEQUENCE 156. LOGGED ON SID 0B000006 ERL$LOGSTATUS ENTRY KA64A CPU FW REV# 6. CONSOLE FW REV# 4.0 XMI NODE # 1. I/O SUB-SYSTEM, UNIT _MUC6: MSLG$L_CMD_REF 6ADA0004 ORB$L_OWNER 00000000 OWNER UIC [000,000] UCB$L_CHAR 0CC44038 DIRECTORY STRUCTURED SINGLE DIRECTORY "SEQUENTIAL BLOCK" ORIENTED FILE ORIENTED AVAILABLE ERROR LOGGING ALLOCATED CAPABLE OF INPUT CAPABLE OF OUTPUT UCB$L_OPCNT 00000003 3. QIO'S THIS UNIT UCB$W_ERRCNT 0001 1. ERRORS THIS UNIT UCB$W_STS 0810 ONLINE SOFTWARE VALID CDRP$L_MEDIA 00000000 CDRP$W_FUNC 000C READ PHYSICAL BLOCK CDRP$L_BCNT 00000050 TRANSFER SIZE 80. BYTE(S) CDRP$W_BOFF 0170 368. BYTE PAGE OFFSET CDRP$L_PID 0001000D REQUESTOR "PID" CDRP$Q_IOSB 000001F4 00000000 IOSB, 0. BYTE(S) TRANSFERRED -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

24 years, 3 months

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990

by mhstein＠canada.com

Either of you guys want a copy of the 990 Computer Family Systems Handbook? mike -------Original Message---------- Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 22:28:17 -0500 From: "James B. DiGriz" <jbdigriz(a)dragonsweb.org> Subject: Re: 990 Merle K. Peirce wrote: > I think they are both variations of the 990/12. One may be a model 8. I > think one is a 13 slot chassis, the other a 17. > I have a /10 in a 13 slot chassis. ~512K installed, several more 192 and <snippage> __________________________________________________________ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com

24 years, 3 months

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[lcolautti@libero.it: Two PDP-11 in Italy]

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Contact him directly if interested. ----- Forwarded message from Lorenzo Colautti <lcolautti(a)libero.it> ----- From: "Lorenzo Colautti" <lcolautti(a)libero.it> To: <mrbill(a)pdp11.org> Subject: Two PDP-11 in Italy Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:38:13 +0100 Hello! I have two fully-functional PDP11-45 systems, with some spare parts, documentation, tests, ecc. But in Italy I was unable to find any person or organisation interested in this. Can you help me? I don't wont throw them! Lorenzo Colautti colautti.lorenzo(a)enel.it Endesa Italia s.r.l. Monfalcone (GO) ITALY ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

24 years, 3 months

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OpenSTEP for VMS

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] > a copy of 3.1. I just haven't found the hardware combo to run it. > I still don't know where I got this, but I found tarball & README. > It's AfterStep, with a title & readme touting it as "OpenSTEP for > Linux". Somebody's idea of a joke? No, somebody just probably forgot to check their facts. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years, 3 months

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Yahoo Free Listing Day on Tuesday

by marvin＠rain.org

Just a quick note to let everyone know that Yahoo is having a free listing day on Tuesday. I plan on putting a number of items there up for auction that might be of interest to listmembers, and will post the URL tomorrow.

24 years, 3 months

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HP 9000 Series 200 documentation lot, almost free...

by whdawson＠localisps.net

1. 3-ring notebook containing: BASIC Programming Techniques with Extensions 2.0 for the HP series 200 Computers Manual Part No. 09826-90011 Copyright 1982 Darn close to mint condition 2. Plastic spiral bound photocopy of: Basic 3.0 Utilities Library for the HP series 200 Computers Manual Part No. 098613-10020 Copyright 1984 As good as the day it was copied. 3. Wire spiral bound pocket reference: Basic 2.0 Condensed Reference with Extensions 2.1 Manual Part No. 09826-90051 First Edition July, 1983 Cover torn 1.25" along spiral at bottom, a name lightly written across the top of the cover and at the top of the title page. Otherwise VGC. Cost: Free + Actual shipping, although donations are appreciated. Bill http://www.swtpc.com

24 years, 3 months

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Users manual, IEM 1mb mem board for HP 9000 series 200/300, Free+

by whdawson＠localisps.net

1 MBYTE MEMORY BOARD For HP 9000 Series 200/300 computers User's Manual September 1986 Publication #: 040986 Manual Part# 9837257 IEM, Inc. Fort Collins, CO Plastic Spiral bound, 22 pages incl. covers; configuration, dip switch settings, etc. VGC Cost: Free + Actual shipping, although donations are appreciated. Bill

24 years, 3 months

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OT: name that computer

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Sellam: Are you planning for VCFE 2.0? Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile) -----Original Message----- From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 3:49 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: OT: name that computer On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Chad Fernandez wrote: > I'm not that old :-) > > Of course the 50's had there problems too, but they are generally > portrayed as being quite wholesome. I wasn't around, but I suspect they > were. It was probably backlash from WW2. As long as people continue to age, there will always result a large population of curmudgeons who will lament their perception that "things were better in my day". Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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OT: name that computer

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Nothing yet ... this was from the 60's. :) > The B205 was a popular movie/TV computer and here is picture of > one in the Bat Cave and other places. > http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/B205/onscreen.html And Time Tunnel, although Sage parts may have been more prominent: http://neolase.lasers.org/TimeTunnel/Towers/Towers.shtml -dq

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Matrox STD-ALPHA VDC for Mostek MD-STD-Z80 Bus manual, Free+

by whdawson＠localisps.net

And finally: An almost mint manual: STD-ALPHA Variable Format Video Display Controller MANUAL NO. 159-A50-06/0 17/5/84 Matrox Electronic Systems Ltd. "Direct Plug-in for Mostek MD-STD-Z80 BUS" 66 pages 1.0 Specs 2.0 Function Description (2 pages) 3.0 Initial Check-Out 4.0 Software 5.0 Straps 6.0 Circuit Description (4 pages) 7.0 MCH-01 Character Generator 8.0 Read/Write Timing 9.0 Pin Assignment 10.0 Maintenance and Warranty 11.0 Ordering Information 12.0 C.R.T.C. Data Sheets (27 pages on HD6845S CRT Controller) 13.0 Schematics and Diagrams (4 pages) Cost: Free + Actual shipping, although donations are appreciated. Please contact me off list. Bill

24 years, 3 months

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Getting Wyse at Goodwill?

by whdawson＠localisps.net

Spotted these in the local (Washington, PA 15301) Goodwill: 1. Wyse 55 model 901237-01 w/ keyboard 840358-01 Dirty but not beat up. Green screen. No burn. Checks out OK in Local. $8.50 2. Wyse 150 900983-1 w/ keyboard 840358-01 Dirty but not beat up. Green screen. No burn. Checks out OK in Local. $8.50 If anyone is interested in one or both of these, LMK via private email to make arrangements. They're still at Goodwill. I would have bought them, but I have enough already for my own uses. Bill

24 years, 3 months

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procom cdrom controller available

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Hi folks. I have a Procom Technology 8-bit ISA bus CDROM controller available for the cost of shipping. Anybody interested? -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

24 years, 3 months

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Microchannel and Redhat?

by fernande＠internet1.net

Will factory Redhat work with MicroChannel? I'm having trouble loading anything but Windows on this computer!! Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

24 years, 3 months

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DEC distribution tapes - VAX vs RISC

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

On Sat, 9 Mar 2002; Jochen <jkunz(a)unixag-kl.fh-kl.de> wrote: > On 8 Mar, Mzthompson(a)aol.com wrote: > > > So the question is when did the RISC series of processors come into > > use, and are these 'unmarked' tapes likely for VAX? > > The DECstation 3100 was the first RISC Unix workstation made by DEC. It > came in 1989 to the market. Thanks, that was what my old and vague memory was recalling. > From there > on none of the new MicroVAXen / VAXstations was supported by Ultrix. What are you considering new? I am looking at the Ultrix 4.x Basic Installation guide dated 1990 and it lists over a dozen uVAX's, VAXservers, and VAXstations. > AFAIK Ultrix 3.0 was current at that time. Sounds about right. So it would seem OK to say that these tapes I have are for VAX. Looking at the tapes: 1) Ultirx-32 V2.0 16 USR TK50 1987 My question here would be was this the only tape needed to install this version? 2) Ultrix-32 V2.2-1 Supp TK50 1988 With this tape marked 'SUPP' I suspect that I only have the one tape of a multi-tape set. Well, someone else on the list was asking if I had any versions of Ultrix for VAX. I guess it looks like a possibility. Thanks, Mike

24 years, 3 months

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Blank Paper Tape Question

by bill_r＠inebraska.com

Does regular paper tape normally come with the sprocket holes pre-punched, or does the device that punches the data holes also punch the sprocket holes? I recently bought some "paper tape" from eBay, and it looks like the right stuff except it's totally without holes. I don't think I've ever seen "virgin" tape before, but I had the idea that the sprocket holes down the middle came with the tape. I'm kicking around trying to build my own tape punch, since I have been unsuccessful at scrounging or buying one so far. I picked up some stainless steel flat and some rod of the appropriate diameter for the holes today, along with some solenoids for actuating said rods. I'm thinking of machining the stainless to make my own punch, but the lack of sprocket holes on the new tape has me confused. Do I need to add another solenoid and pin to punch a smaller hole for the sprocket, or did I just buy some odd-ball tape?

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A proposal for a definitive URL linc source site

by lgwalker＠mts.net

I've spent some years on the net searching for info on my latest acquisition and how to get it functioning. In the mutitude of sites available some provided useful info on the machine or platform while others simply supplied pictures of a collection. Sources could lead you to a multitude of sites before you found the one that answered your questions, if you were lucky. The problem is the common problem on the net of too much information. Sellams site is a case in point, and IINM my site-list from T3C served as a source for his some of his list. The multitude of sites is just too overwhelming. What would be good is the definitive computer site for each computer or the catagory you're looking for. Jeff Helliges site for the Tandy 2000 http://www.cchaven.com Tim Manns TRS80 site http://www.tim-mann.org/trs80new.html Kees Travers TRS m.II http://home.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/cm/modelii.html Merch's site for the m.100 ( Can't find it in my list.Put it in your sig file Merch) For the CoCo http://zeppelin.tzo.cc/coco/coco.jhtml Tandy 1000 page (can't find it- Red dog page ?) As examples just for the Tandy boxes. comprehensive sites like the PCjr one http://mail.magnaspeed.net/~mbbrutman/PCjr/pcjr.html or any of the PS/2 Mafia pages and the IBM Can site for most models It would still comprise a multitude of info but would point you to the best sources of info on that box you just acquired. And of course generate a bunch of disagreements on the list as to the most authoritive site. Sellams site would likely be the best place to list such a thing as it is well- known and would likely need only a minimum of re-organisation. And of course could have various sections for those into micros, minis, and even mainframes. Rogers site could be a kickoff for Laptops. The main thing would be that the listing was the authoritive site in the opinion of the list, and save a collector from tedius Google searches. Possibly even a rating system could be used. Lawrence Reply to: lgwalker(a)mts.net Love of the Goddess makes the poet go mad he goes to his death and in death is made wise. Robert Graves

24 years, 3 months

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Intel RAM - What came when

by gmphillips＠earthlink.net

Can anyone here help me with this. I need to know the sequence that Intel RAM (SRAM and DRAM) was introduced. If you think you know dates, give them. In know that Intel's first RAM was the 3101 SRAM Then came the 1101 SRAM I "think" the 1103 DRAM was next. Then comes... What? I suspect the 2101? Or was it the 2102? Not sure which came first. I think the 2111 and 2112 came after the 2102. Anyway, if you can help, let me know what order you think the Intel RAM was introduced. I've tried figuring this out from the 1977 IC Master but it list everything up thru the 2114 and does not indicate when the chips were introduced. Here's the base numbers I'm interested in. 1101 1103 2101 2102 2104 2105 2106 2107 2108 2109 2111 2112 2113 2114 2115 2116 2117 2118 2125 2148 2149 3101 3102 3104 3106 3107 5101 Also, if you know of any early Intel RAM not listed, please let me know. As always, I am looking to buy any vintage Intel or Intel 2nd source processors, EPROM's, PROMS's, ROM, RAM, or support chips you have, that I don't, that you don't need. In particular, I'm looking for the following: Intel C1701 EPROM Intel C1702 EPROM (not C1702A) Intel C1602 PROM Intel C1602A PROM Intel C3101A in white CerDIP package without visible gray traces. Intel C2704 EPROM Intel C8080 (not C8080A) Eng Samples of Intel 4004 thru 8088 processors. Toshiba TMP9080AC (8080 clone) Mitsubishi M58710S (8080 clone) Early AMD 8080's before AMD started using the AM9080 part numbers.

24 years, 3 months

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More Free Stuff: Austin, TX

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

More free stuff (and pictures), for pickup only: Pile of Sun VME boards: http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/freestuff/tn/vmeboards1.jpg.html http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/freestuff/tn/vmeboards2.jpg.html http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/freestuff/tn/memoryboard.jpg.html One DELNI, 8-port AUI "hub"/concentrator? http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/freestuff/tn/delni.jpg.html Three GRIDcase 1520/1530 laptops. ONE AC power supply, that works in any of the machines. One has a funky hinge, but still opens. One of them has a nice "PROPERTY OF THE IRS" sticker. 8-) http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/freestuff/tn/gridlaptops.jpg.html Again, free for pickup in Austin. Might ship, but you'll have to offer me something in trade if I have to haul this stuff to the pack-n-ship place. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

24 years, 3 months

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FREE: Sun VME boards in Austin, TX

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I've got a pile (seven or eight or maybe more) of Sun VME boards free for pickup in Austin, TX. I know one of them is a 4/6x0 memory board (tons of 30pin slots); i've got a couple of SCSI controllers, some IPI controlelrs, ALM-2 boards, etc. Just cleaning out the closet. Must pick up - WILL NOT SHIP, *unless* you have something nifty to trade (looking for ham radio equipment, etc..) Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

24 years, 3 months

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FREE: Sun-2 machines in Austin, TX

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I've got a Sun 2/170 and a 2/120 (one is a big black rackmount cube-ish enclosure, the other is a deskside tower reminiscent of a skinny 3/260), free for pickup in Austin, TX. The /170 will need some cleanup and TLC; the /120 just needs a monitor cable (9pin mono monitor; an all-wires straight-through 9pin serial cable works fine), keyboard cable, mouse, and mouse pad. WILL NOT SHIP. You will need to come pick these up. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

24 years, 3 months

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2 qbus cards available

by William.King＠dadaboom.com

I have the following two boards which I like to dispose of. Free to a good home, as long as you don't put them up on eBay. Buyer pays shipping, let's say $5.00 each. 1. Computer Products Model 312 w/cabinet kit. I believe this is a DHV11 clone (dual width, qbus). The cabinet kit has 8 DB25 connectors. 2. Simpact Assocates, Inc. ICP 1622 Comm (quad width, qbus). I have no idea what this card is, but it does have a socketed DEC 21-17311-01 chip on it (which I believe is the bus interface.) I imagine that it is a communications card of some sort. Both cards are untested and shipped as-is. The ICP 1622 was pulled from a working system, so I'd guess that it works. The other arrived with a pile of equipment, so I have no idea about it's status. Bill

24 years, 3 months

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Open systems: was DEC kidding about itself?

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi found this funny t-shirt being auctioned on ePay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2008676061 What I don't quite understand is what message this t-shirt was supposed to convey, so I just thought may be I should take it literally. And so I did :-) See here: http://aurora.regenstrief.org/VAX/open-systems.jpg regards, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

24 years, 3 months

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VAX 6400 booting saga: A scary story with a happy ending.

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, let me share a frightening story with you that I lived through while my family had naptime. I decided to try out Isildur's idea of booting Ultrix using a KA62A processor in the hope that that would be supported right off the 4.5 boot tape. And I just happened to have one such T2011 board in a box (taken off a lonely 6310 in a barn full of bird-poop.) So, I took all 6 KA64As out and stacked them on some papers that I use to pack most of my boards (with papers between the boards so they would not stick together :-). Put the KA62A in and fired up. A lonely light lit and no real function was to be observed. I moved all 4 MS65A-DA boards out too, because I figured that may be a KA62A doesn't know how to deal with MS65A-DA. I swapped in some of those T2014 that seem to multiply while stored in the box. Anyway, it still wouldn't work. The self test progress report shows that the CPU detects no memory and then it reports that problem explicitly and stops. The CPU error status lights say hexadecimal C0. I could not find any table explaining what C0 status code is. It could be boring (like "no memory found", which I know) or it could indicate some condition that I could fix, like "backplane wiring error" :-). I stuffed the whole XMI bus full with those 32 MB cards in the hopes that one would work, but to no avail. So, perhaps the memory access path in that CPU board is broken? Is there any rewiring to be done when converting a 6400 down to a 6200? Anyway, my daughter came downstairs indicating naptime was over and so it was time to finish up. KA62A and all MS62A back in the box and all 6 KA64As and 4 MS65A-DA back into the bus fired up and all processors were indicating they were somehow not agreeing who would get to be the primary CPU. Hit reset and they figured it out. But now they were bitching about memory and the CPUs showed minuses in the selftest monitor. Rearranged the CPUs and the memory, still no good luck. Everything was screwed up! I was afraid I had killed all my boards by careless handling (I did this before, may be not with that polyester pullover that might have sent static sparks, like they do.) Took all but one CPU out and that did do the self test OK. But one MS65A board seemed broken. It failed regardless which slot I put it. Finally I took it all out. Then the CPUs back in and again it didn't work. I then put CPUs back one by one powering up each time to see progress. Slowly, one by one, the number of board which I thought I had killed reduced down to 1, the memory board. The order in which I put in the CPUs and the restarting every time seemed to be important. Then, finally I even found one configuration of the memory boards where all 4 were detected and tested fine. Hey I was so scared I had killed half of my VAX through carelessness. But I didn't. I am quite confused why it is all so finnicky about the order of installing the hardware. I won't mess with this machine's XMI configuration any time soon. regards -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

24 years, 3 months

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Today's Apple brag

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

Today's brag: a Woz IIgs with 20MB Applied Ingenuity internal HD and 1MB RAM card. I transferred the hard disk, cover (*smirk*) and RAM card to my 1MB ROM 03 IIgs, and now I have a faux Woz with ROM 03 firmware, a 20MB disk with 6.0.1 on it and 2MB of RAM. Now all I need is a CPU upgrade and a good modem ... The G3 for the PowerBook 1400 also arrived today too and that was almost as much fun. :-) -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- The fastest way to fold a map is differently. ------------------------------

24 years, 3 months

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Transmitter (Was: RE: OT Mitsubishi Monitor Weirdness)

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

On Sat, 9 Mar 2002; "Davison, Lee" <Lee.Davison(a)merlincommunications.com> wrote: > > As an example, I use to work on some navigational > > transmitters with power output of a few hundred watts. > > There was a test jack for sampling the RF output and you > > hooked a scope to the jack. The gotcha was when you > > hooked the coax cable to the transmitter first instead of > > the scope. If you did that, the transmitter went down > > within seconds. > This is rot! No it's not. I know of a couple technicians who goofed and caused it to happen. > On a transmitter with even a few watts output the > RF probe coupling would be -10dB or more, so even an open > or short on this would give a return of -20dB. This is so > small it can be ignored, in fact many antenna systems aren't > that good. I agree with what you say here, even for the vintage of the transmitters. They were built in the 40's & 50's. It was even fascinating to see how the technology worked. To modulate a portion of the RF with low frequency (ranging from 30 to 90 hz) there was two RF coupling loops with a specially designed fan blade spinning between the loops. This changed the amplitude of the RF coupled from one loop to the other. You can probably imagine the fascination of some technicians when we swapped out this vintage tube type monsters with state-of-the-art-neato solid state units. Got questions from the some of the old timers 'Duh, it taint got no moving parts, how does it modulate the carrier?'. > As a termination a scope is a very poor match for any low Z > RF source it's impedance being 1Mohm or more so it > wouldn't matter if you plugged it in or not. Also most test > gear can't absorb any ammount of watts for any length of > time, so if the port was a high power snif it would have to be > terminated at the port with a high power attenuator which > gives a good match regardless of it's terminating Z. Because of the vintage of the equipment and operating in the VHF band (108-118 mhz), we had special scopes that that had a special RF input section that could handle a few watts. This was what we used to check the modulation pattens and the like. > > The open circuit at the other end of the coax got > > reflected back to the transmitter as a low > > impedance and detuned it, and the monitoring circuits > > would detect the detuning and pull the plug. > This depends entirely on the wavelength length of the > coax. Did you use an exact odd multiple of 1/4 wavelength > coax every time? Yes, it was required for use with the scope. > can you remember the make/model of these transmitters? Nope, I have slept since then. They were all special designed for the government. In fact when they were replaced with solid state units (1980's), we had orders to destroy the old ones. They did not want them on the surplus market where they might show up in operation later. I do remember now, one model was built by Wurlizter (sp?), yep, the electronic organ folks. And now, I would like to apologize to the list. While this meets (and exceeds greatly) the 10 year guideline, it would not by any stretch of the imagination 'compute'. I was simply trying to point out the need for proper termination of a circuit, regardless of where the circuit is and what it does. Forgive me. Mike

24 years, 3 months

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PALCE16V8H

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

Slightly OT. Does anyone have the read/write spec for a PALCE16V8H? I want to put more memory on an 8032 SBC but can't afford to buy a programmer just to read the chip that does the decoding. I can replace it with a GAL part but I'd like to read the original. Ta. Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

24 years, 3 months

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spam (was:ADV: International Trade)

by mhstein＠canada.com

Why not start by just refraining from commenting and substantially adding to the spam every time... mike --------------Original Message-------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 03:26:44 -0500 From: "Glen Goodwin" <acme_ent(a)bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: ADV: International Trade > From: Doc <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> > Umm, that post looked like a duck & quacked like a duck.... I don't > _care_ if they said it wasn't a duck. Yes, and this kind of duck really sucks. When are we going to do something about this? Hello? Jay? Glen 0/0

24 years, 3 months

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CD-RW on a VMS system

by wilby98＠yahoo.com

I am looking down the road a bit on whether it might be feasible to add a CD-RW to my VMS system. My first question is if it will work with my present hardware: To be clustered: VAXstation 3100, VAXstation 2000 (will probably not be clustered, but be a dedicated disk formatter), MicroVAX 3100-30, MicroVAX II. ... and software: VMS 5.5-2 (will hopefully upgrade to latest version when get CD-ROM such as 'Toshiba XM-6401B'.) So if I add a 'Plextor PlexWriter (SCSI) and use: CDRECORD LD062 ... will I have a way to backup data onto CD-R's? How about 'performance'? I am thinking it will be slow, but how slow? -- Bill Amsterdam, NL

24 years, 3 months

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looking for an image of OBP 2.25 for SPARCstation 10

by salo＠Xtrmntr.org

hi, On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 08:39:15PM +0000, Andrew Basterfield wrote: > You can get one from here > > http://lios.apana.org.au/~cdewick/data/bootroms.html thanks to all who replied. i've never seen this site, sure it's cool :) regards, -- -- Lubomir Sedlacik <salo(a)Xtrmntr.org> ASCII Ribbon campaign against /"\ -- -- <salo(a)silcnet.org> e-mail in gratuitous HTML and \ / -- -- Microsoft proprietary formats X -- -- PGPkey: http://Xtrmntr.org/salo.pgp / \ -- -- Key Fingerprint: DBEC 8BEC 9A90 ECEC 0FEF 716E 59CE B70B 7E3B 70E2 --

24 years, 3 months

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looking for an image of OBP 2.25 for SPARCstation 10

by salo＠Xtrmntr.org

hello, i am looking for an image of OpenBoot PROM for SPARCstation 10, the latest one - 2.25 Version 0. is there any good soul out there who would send me a dump from EEPROM? i would really appreciate it.. thanks, regards, -- -- Lubomir Sedlacik <salo(a)Xtrmntr.org> ASCII Ribbon campaign against /"\ -- -- <salo(a)silcnet.org> e-mail in gratuitous HTML and \ / -- -- Microsoft proprietary formats X -- -- PGPkey: http://Xtrmntr.org/salo.pgp / \ -- -- Key Fingerprint: DBEC 8BEC 9A90 ECEC 0FEF 716E 59CE B70B 7E3B 70E2 --

24 years, 3 months

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OT: name that computer

by rachael_＠gmx.net

Hi while watchning 'I dream of Jeannie' episode 40 - 'The girl who never had a birthday', Tony uses a computer at NASA, It had black and white switches, grouped into blocks four. Looked as the front was made of brushed metal, have anyone seen that episode or know that kind of computer it might have been ? Regards Jacob Dahl Pind -- CBM, Amiga,Vintage hardware collector Email: Rachael_(a)gmx.net url: http://rachael.dyndns.org

24 years, 3 months

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ApplicationDEC 433MP server

by davebarnes＠adelphia.net

Hello all; I just picked up a Digital ApplicationDEC 433MP server. Monster server box. Seems to be a multi processor (up to 4) 486 server that ran SCO/Unix 386, modified for this machine. I am trying to get it running again, and seem to have some memory errors when it powers up and self tests. Does anyone have this machine they can provide more info on? Looking also for parts, cpu boards (mine only has a single cpu card), memory, etc.... Can anyone help? Thanks David Barnes

24 years, 3 months

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OT: Scrapping steel (was RE: Suggestions for hauling ...)

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

'course, it takes a heck of a lot of steel for it to amount to jack squat.. Steel is so worthless compared to aluminum, etc. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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