I'm involved with a historical preservation project (that has nothing to
do with my employer). I'm hoping to find Autocoder, Cobol, Fortran, RPG,
Sort 6/7, IOCS, ..., manuals, user-developed applications, the engineering
drawings that CE's used for field maintenance, or any other IBM 1401
memorabilia (including equipment!).
Do you have any of this stuff, or know anybody who might?
Thanks in advance,
Van Snyder
In a message dated 3/16/02 10:03:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, marvin(a)rain.org
writes:
> Jay West wrote:
> >
> > Please read the entire message below from the list admin (who is trying
> very
> > hard not to come out of his skin and choke someone)...
Jay, you're doing a fine job and we all owe you some gratitude for keeping
the list running as smoothly as it has been.
-Linc Fessenden
BTW, I am interested in either a z80 big board or a xerox 820 if
anyone has one they want to find a new home for...
--tom
At 09:03 AM 3/16/02 -0500, you wrote:
>> At 10:03 PM 3/15/02 -0600, you wrote:
>> >I've got what I was told is a BigBoard. Can someone check
>> >out the picture at:
>> >
>> >http://www.dittman.net/z80.jpg
>> >
>> >and see if you recognize it?
>>
>> That is a Xerox 820, which is the same schematically as a z80 big board.
>> The big board was a different form factor (the same size as an 8" floppy
>> drive) and was usually a kit.
>
>If California Digital is still in business, I believe the
>boxed CP/M they were (are?) selling is for the Xerox 820...
>
>If gone now, I have a copy...
>
>-dq
>
>
> BTW, I am interested in either a z80 big board or a xerox 820 if
> anyone has one they want to find a new home for...
Ditto that, and a Little Boards, too (ISTR Allison's
got one or more of the Little Boards)...
-dq
At 09:03 AM 3/16/02 -0500, you wrote:
>> At 10:03 PM 3/15/02 -0600, you wrote:
>> >I've got what I was told is a BigBoard. Can someone check
>> >out the picture at:
>> >
>> >http://www.dittman.net/z80.jpg
>> >
>> >and see if you recognize it?
>>
>> That is a Xerox 820, which is the same schematically as a z80 big board.
>> The big board was a different form factor (the same size as an 8" floppy
>> drive) and was usually a kit.
>
>If California Digital is still in business, I believe the
>boxed CP/M they were (are?) selling is for the Xerox 820...
It would appear that it is still available and reasonably priced!
http://www.cadigital.com/software.htm
--tom
>If gone now, I have a copy...
>
>-dq
>
>
> Here's a great test. If the thought of using the list to respond to an
> off-topic posting is appealing but responding to just the individual
> originator of the message isn't, then I'd suggest that maybe you have an
> ego problem that is being fed by having a semi-captive audience.
I'm in total agreement with this. Believe it or not, each and
every time I make first response to such a thread, I do so with
the intention of sending it only to the poster... then just after
I click send, I once again realize that REPLY goes to the list
instead of the SENDER and REPLY TO ALL doesn't work at all... [0]
Once I've done that I regret it, but admittedly not enough to
stop my subsequent OT posts in that thread.
Recently, I've had just enough presence of mind to remember
to re-address the message.
Outlook is programmable, so it can be made to operate the
way I want it to regardless of how brain-dead the listserver
software might be (I haven't been happy with any listservers
other than the IBM BITNET-hosted ones; this seems to be a function
no one else can do right). I guess I need to get started,
as soon as the Cyber simulator is finished...
[0] If you can't believe that anyone can be this absent-minded,
then you haven't interacted with a very wide range of people
-dq
> Where are you located? I'm just outside of Orlando Florida.
I'm in the Netherlands, so that's not exactly next door. But I don't think I'm
going to have much trouble finding a HP-85, at least I hope not.
> > About two months ago I noticed a complete HP-85 (tapes, manuals and a 19"
> > rack with HP-IB equipment)
>
> Was it on a pull out drawer and in a cabinet that was about 18" tall?
> If so I've seen those before, they're a data acquision system and it
> usually has a HP 3497 Data Acquision unit in the bottom. There's a number
> for the complete unit but I can't remeber exactly what it is. Somewhere I
> have a couple of manuals and tapes for that system.
Yes, that sounds exactly like it. Usually they have stuff standing there for a
few months, but this one was gone pretty quick. They normally have lots of
weird computer systems (not at the moment; I checked last Friday and it was
almost empty), but I tend to stick to the smaller systems; mostly what you see
are industrial controllers in 2m tall 19" racks....
Michiel
> >Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
>
> > Sure, but SPAM is at least partly pervasive due to the low cost
> > of harvesting addresses. This might bump it into the unprofitable
> > zone...
>
> I have asked for comments on the following - does anyone care?
I think your solution is somewhat Byzantine. Why not just
edit your headers to something that can't be replied to
by output from a harvester?
Regards,
-dq
> Yes, I have one. But I'm not sure if it works and I haven't had the time
>to test it or needed it bad enough to drive me to find a way to test it.
That's probably the one I gave you. It was working just fine last year. The
caddys can also be hard to find. I look for them at every ham fest / swap
meet.
SteveRob
>At 01:00 AM 3/16/02 +0000, you wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I'm looking for a HP-IB CD-Rom drive.
> >
> >Did one ever exist? I've never heard of such an animal...
> >
> >-tony
> >
> >
>
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 08:28:44 -0600
From: Paul Kasley <kasley(a)fnal.gov>
Reply-To: greenkeys(a)mailman.qth.net
To: greenkeys(a)mailman.qth.net
Subject: [GreenKeys] News item for WC2XPF
John F. Auwaerter,76,
Pioneer who helped create computer language
by Krystyna Slivinski
Special to the Tribune
John F. Auwaerter, 76, of Park Ridge, was a pioneer in the
telecommunications industry who was instrumental in the development of
the American Standard Code for Information Interchange, or the ASCII
computer language.
The code was the first 8-bit standard code that allowed characters, such
as those found on a keyboard, to be represented by the same codes on
many different kinds of computers.
"That was a major change in standardization for the telecommunications
industry," said Sylvan Silberg, a fellow former research engineer at
Teletype Corp. The code was developed in the 1960s through Mr.
Auwaerter's involvement an Institute of Electrical Engineers committee,
Silberg said.
"He traveled all over the world defining what this code would represent.
This is the code that is still used in PCs today," Silberg said.
Mr. Auwaerter died of cancer Saturday, Feb. 23, in Fountain Hill, Ariz.
Born in Chicago, Mr. Auwaerter served two years in the Navy as an ensign
stationed in the Pacific in World War II. He was a graduate of
Northwestern University in Evanston, where he received a bachelor's
degree in electrical engineering in the late 1950s. After working as an
engineer at General Electric in Baltimore, Mr. Auwaerter joined Teletype
Corp. in Chicago.
At the same time, he attended DePaul University and got a law degree in
the late 1950s. Despite the law degree, Mr. Auwaerter's career remained
focused on telecommunications.
During the late 1950s, he was responsible for developing a nationwide
network that provided up-to-date weather reports every 15 minutes, which
teletypes supplied to the Federal Aviation Administration.
"He knew how to get the most out of people and make them love it,"
Silberg said.
His other achievements included the creation of a secure high-speed
communication network for the federal government in the 1960s. He
retired from Teletype in the early 1980s as vice president of sales.
"He was quite dynamic and brilliant," said his daughter, Mary Loftus.
"He was in charge in whatever he got involved in."
Other survivors include two grandchildren.
A memorial service will begin at 11a.m. Friday in St. Paul if the Cross
Catholic Church, 320 S. Washington Ave., Park Ridge.
--Chicago Tribune, March 14, 2002, Thursday
(verbatim from Trib)
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Paul Kasley W9TS
Fermi National Accelerator Lab, Batavia, IL
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I Second that!
Firstly, regardless of your position on this matter, we must
all realize that we are enjoying the *privledge* of using this
*public* forum for discourse.
This privledge is granted purely by Jay's unselfish contribution
of time, effort, and bandwith. We owe Jay alot-- hassling him
for something that is part and parcel with a public forum such
as ours is unjustified and unfair.
The burden of keeping our forum relevent does not lie with one
person-- it lies with us all. Help preserve our relevence by
keeping your posts on-topic (yeah I know, I'm a guilty party too).
Yes, a few bums use our forum as a sleeping place, stinking it
up as they tend to do. But we have the power to evict them with
the <DEL> key. A small effort by many, is more powerful than
a great effort by a few (or the one).
It's cold, here in Kansas. I think I'll break up this soapbox,
and make a nice warm fire. Maybe I'll even roast a few hotdogs.
Jeff
On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 23:53:00 -0800 "William R. Buckley" <hhacker(a)ev1.net>
writes:
> Moral: Jay, given that you were granted control, and given that
> others were fully satisfied with your having such control (and the
> attendent responsibilities), it is clear that you should not give up
such
> control (lest the list go the way of the ICWS) and you should stick to
your
> guns.
>
> My vote is for Jay!
>
> William R. Buckley
>
> Sellam Wrote....
> > Ok, this is where I object. It is NOT your list. This list
>
> That's funny you should say that now Sellam, because you were the
> first one
> to post to me privately during the great "reply-to" debate that "it
> is your
> list, take care of it well....", and "you make the rules... do what
> you
> wish". I will go dig up your past private email to me that said just
> that if
> you would like. You have also posted words similar to that on the
> list in
> the past, I noted them well. I find it interesting that you are
> suddenly
> changing your tune. Does your past stance on this issue no longer
> mesh with
> your adgenda perhaps?
>
> > I don't want you to be the one to decide solely
> > how it is run. I, for one, would like some input on issues.
>
> You do get some input. I listen. However I also make the final
> determination. If you don't like it, or feel that I don't get
> reasonable
> input from the list members, please feel free to start an alternate
> list -
> that appears to be your motivation in any case.
>
> > That was true before. Unfortunately, the list has now been
> infiltrated
> > with spammers, which is quite unfortunate.
>
> Infiltrated with Spammers? See Jerome's recent post on this topic
> for a
> reality check Sellam.
>
> > Kill all off-topic messages (start with this one) as well as
> > spam.
>
> That statement is what a flamer would call a "target rich
> environment". I
> think I'll leave the gauntlet on the ground.
>
> > Jay, don't take this too personally, but that answer SUCKS! When
> will you
> > be "damn well ready"? The list asked for a solution several weeks
> ago. I
> > think it's time to finally do something.
>
> Sellam, you're trying to bait me. I'm not falling for it. Live with
> it.
>
> Jay West
>
>
>
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> From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell)
> Subject: Re: I have a PDP-11/34 programmer's console, what should I do with it?
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 01:08:38 +0000 (GMT)
> In-Reply-To: <01aa01c1cc34$96981700$8a0101ac@ibm23xhr06> from "John Allain" at Mar 15, 2 10:17:56 am
> Sender: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
>
> >
> > tony said:
> > > If you then solder the mating part of the connector to stripboard
> > > with a track cut between the 2 rows of pins then each pin will be
> > > on it's own strip.
> >
> > This isn't bad, except for that the signals are now one set of
> > 1,3,5,7... and one set of 2,4,6,8... If I want to keep the
> > contiguous signals together then I have to jumper just about
>
> I may be missing something here, but is there any reason why you have to
> keep the signals in numerical order? OK, you have a PDP11/34 console with
> the 20 way (or so) ribbon coming off it. What are you trying to link it
> to? If you're building your own interface circuit you're going to have to
> route the signals around to different chips, surely.
Seems to me that nearly all ribbon cables use even-numbered pins for
signal and odd-numbered pins for ground. So signal and ground lines
alternate in the cable.
carl
--
carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego
clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu
Intel Aboveboard MCA Microchannel memory expansion for MCA 286 (possibly
386) PS/2's with 2MB of 256K simms on it standard parity 30 pin simms, I
believe this may be capable of taking 1M simms, and possibly 4M simms, I
don't remember. was working when system was scrapped ~ 5 years ago
a 384K Ram card for PC's to take you 256k PC up to 640K, fully loaded with
64K drams. worked when it was pulled ~ 4 years ago
Microsoft PC Ramcard similar to above, but originally sold by Microsoft.
> On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Allison wrote:
>
> > Then there are the longer list of freeware mailers. Theres no excuse
for
> > living with crud. There is also no excuse for not knowing how to
"drive"
> > what you have.
Doc replied:
> Pine. It Isn't Just For Unix Anymore!
> There are Win32 ports now. I think there's a fairly stable MacOS <10
> port.
> Mutt has more features, and allows more granular tuning, but Pine is
> way easy to drive.
Okay. I'm probably the last person still using Microsoft Mail. It works
okay, but I can't find any information about security holes (or lack of
them) in this program, and it does not include the headers in messages
which I forward, so it's no good for reporting spam.
Sellam, I tried Pegasus v4 and the windows kept popping up in really odd
locations and sizes. It also has *way* more bells and whistles than I
need.
Doc, I tried Pine, but the Win9x version requires that I be on-line to read
email. I want to send/receive, logoff, and then read and compose new mail.
Other than that, it looks okay.
Can some one suggest a simple offline email handler that isn't giving that
"come hither" look to every Trojan on earth? And that's free?
Glen
0/0
Hi all,
I'm interested in any information/documentation regarding the hardware
of a HP9845, e.g. schematics, support and repair informations.
Kind regards
Andreas
> I'm just telling you like it is. It's called outreach. There is gear in
> the hands of people who, say, come across the archives from links, who
> will have no interest whatsoever in subscribing, and we need to keep it
> as easy as possible for them to post, or stuff will get junked that
> shouldn't.
Ancestry.com does this very effectively.
They have a message archive, but then you nring up a message,
you don't see the RFC822 e-mail address, just the name of the
poster.
Like with E-Bay, if you want the actual address, you click a
link that takes you to a different page. Here is where the
difference begins, and why Ancesrty's way is much cooler
than E-Bay's (but then _cooler than E-Bay_ isn't hard to do).
Anyway, you get a page where the host system looks up the
actual e-mail address, then constructs a graphic image
ON THE FLY that is a "picture" of the poster's e-mail
address.
Gonna take a hell of a bot to break through that...
Regards,
-doug q
> From: Stan Barr <stanb(a)dial.pipex.com>
> Just curious, but what do you guys *do* with ZX81s? I've got one rebuilt
in
> a large box with loads of i/o ports and a2d converter running
multi-tasking
> Forth, but I've not plugged it in for a while...
Okay, check out:
http://home.freiepresse.de/befis/zx96_e.htm
Then tell me what you *can't* do with a ZX81 ;>)
We can:
scan documents
control overhead projectors
control CNC tools and other robotics
run BBSs
play audio CDs
load programs from CDs
burn EPROMs
In addition to the above, we also use:
AT- and PS/2-style keyboards
5.25" fdds
3.5" fdds
IDE hdds
LCD screens
I've heard that a TCP/IP protocol handler will be unveiled at this year's
meeting.
Sure, some of these operations are slow, but the point is that we're doing
a *lot* with "obsolete" hardware. If we can get this kind of functionality
out of a Z80-based system, what could *really* be done with a 486-100,
P233, or P4-2.2 GHz system, given the time and brainpower?
Sellam once said that the ZX-TEAMers were "fanatical hackers." How else is
science advanced, other than fanatical hacking (and dumb luck)?
My personal project is WIN-ZX, which will perform many of the tasks Windows
3.1 handled for the PC. Presently it requires a 64KB system with a
MEFISDOS-based IDE hard drive, but I hope to trim it down to 16KB and
cassette tape.
Hope you join us for the chat --
Glen
0/0
> > Anyway, you get a page where the host system looks up the
> > actual e-mail address, then constructs a graphic image
> > ON THE FLY that is a "picture" of the poster's e-mail
> > address.
> >
> > Gonna take a hell of a bot to break through that...
>
> Not really. OCR algorithms are easily available I'm sure.
Sure, but SPAM is at least partly pervasive due to the low cost
of harvesting addresses. This might bump it into the unprofitable
zone...
> Decent system though.
Yeah, and if a bunch of genealogists can come up with it,
I'd be ashamed to be an IT professional if *we* couldn't
do at least as well...
-dq
>> One is the HDI-45 to RGB adaptor, that came with all the "AV" powermacs
>> that had the AV video port.
>This is the one I've been looking for... I have had this 6100 for over
>a year and haven't run across the HDI-45 adapter for less than $15-$20
>shipped.
There are literally DOZENS of these on eBay... as long as you don't mind
3rd party ones (if you want a true apple one, you might actually have to
look a few times over the course of 2 weeks before one shows up... even
those aren't exactly rare).
But, you are right, almost all of them end up in the $20 range after
shipping (and many before shipping). Again, it isn't because of demand,
but rather because 90% of them are 3rd party, all sold by the same
person, and all with starting bids of $9.99 + $10 shipping and handling.
Almost all go unbid, but because of that, the few that get listed by
someone else for lower prices, get driven up by people trying to get a
better deal (or from the one guy slamming the bids to make his the
cheapest for all I know).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
My latest score is an iSBX-251 bubble memory card. Tres kewl. The bonus is
that it showed up with a manual complete with schematics. I've got to get a
scanner working so I can get it on line, but if anyone has a question, drop
me a line.
Ken
> Today is March 15, 2002. The latest post available from the online
> archives is dated November 30, 2001. That's a hell of a lag.
I can't really quite imagine what all must be involved in being
part owner of a company, then having to pull out, and either
hustle to find a job, or start another company... I'd think
you'd want a little safety cushion...
At any rate, I'd have thought that by now, he'd have been
somewhat settled in... but with the downturn, he might well
be having trouble.
Bear in mind he's providing the hosting as well as being
list owner. Anyone wanting a change of status quo needs
to consider we could easliy lay this one someone else who
might drop it a month later...
-dq
Is anyone familiar with a Genrad 2620? There's one at a local surplus
warehouse but I can't seem to find anything informative via Google.
It's a "Field Service Processor" or something like that, with a fold-down
keyboard and a built-in CRT. I can get pictures if it helps, but I'm
hoping that someone familiar with the unit would let me know if it's
worth picking up.
Cheers,
Dan
What's kinda amusing about this is that various gullible/clueless folks
have actually sent substantial money to these clowns like these - of
course this is a fairly old and well-known scam that comes from several
African (and other) sources in the region.
Financial Darwinism in action!
Cheers
John
Death to SPAM, but don't restrict the List. My $.02
>I've never heard these called "video dongles", and while they don't
>come in the package with the 6100 DOS board, the manual says it's
>needed, shows its picture, and says it comes with the computer in
>which you're trying to install the board.
Well.. there are two different video "adaptors" that were being refered
to in that thread.
One is the HDI-45 to RGB adaptor, that came with all the "AV" powermacs
that had the AV video port. I think that was limited to the 6100, 7100,
8100 series (but may have included others). This was needed to connect a
standard RGB monitor to the HDI-45 AV video connector. Or, Apple prefered
you bought an AV monitor that plugged directly into the port and provided
video, audio, ADB, and for some reason I think color calibration (but I
might be wrong on the last one).
The other "adaptor" or dongle that was being refered to, is the Video
Loopback connector for the DOS cards. The two DOS card styles I have (the
"Houdini" from the Q610, and the later PC Compatability cards for the PCI
Powermacs), required a video cable that plugged from the DB-26 port on
the DOS card, looped into the RGB port on the Mac, and had an output for
RGB. It enabled you to use one monitor for both DOS and Mac, or if you
don't connect the loop to the Mac's RGB, you could use two monitors, one
for each world. Also, the Q610 version provided a Joystick/Game/Midi
port. That port was not on the cable for the PCI version, as the
Game/Midi port was right on the DOS card.
The question that seems to have come up is, does the 6100 DOS card have
that loopback connector at all? The PCI DOS cards can either use the the
external loop connector... OR an internal connector for Macs that support
it (you need the GIMO slot, which many of the PCI Powermacs had). There
is a possibility the 6100 card does something similar.
But, if the 6100 DOS card needs the cable, is most definitly should have
come with it. The Q610 came with it, and the PCI cards came with both the
internal AND external cables as far as I am aware (I have never bought a
PCI one new... two of mine came installed in a 4400 from Apple, and
included the external, but not internal cable, and my 3rd came installed
in a used 7200 with an internal, but not external... but the eBay ads I
have seen for boxed ones, always say they have both internal and external
cables, and since you need one or the other cable, and Apple had no way
of knowing which PCI Powermac you planned to use it with, it would have
made sense to include both styles)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Sorry about the HTML - I have now discovered a difference between
Pegasus mail V3 and Pegasus mail v4 - V3 worked properly, V4 puts
****ing HTML everywhere ****ing where.
Apologies
Doug.
> Yesterday we visited Computer Solutions in Orange, NJ and were given a
> lovely HP3000 Series 70. It's a large, but very lovely beastie and so
> far, at least, remarkably tractable. Also in the load were boxes of
> paper tape, tape reader , full 3000 docs and an HP2108. They also gave
> us an Apollo 400 system, server and 6 workstations. Very nice people,
> and aa lovely donation.
Without a doubt... say, was this from inventory (stuff they
sell), or something they once-uon-a-time used?
-dq
> Well.. there are two different video "adaptors" that were
> being refered to in that thread.
[..snip..]
> The question that seems to have come up is, does the 6100 DOS card have
> that loopback connector at all? The PCI DOS cards can either use the the
> external loop connector... OR an internal connector for Macs that support
> it (you need the GIMO slot, which many of the PCI Powermacs had). There
> is a possibility the 6100 card does something similar.
There is a cable with three or four connectors attached to it; I
assume this is what you're referring to. The package is complete,
the packing list is still there, I can bring it in tomorrow and
scan it.
Regards,
-dq
> John F. Auwaerter, 76, of Park Ridge, was a pioneer in the
> telecommunications industry who was instrumental in the development of
> the American Standard Code for Information Interchange, or the ASCII
> computer language.
Shades of Al Gore, this "I was first" disease knows no boundaries...
Gonna go Google this, but I was pretty sure Ralph Bemer invented
ASCII ....
-dq
On Mar 15, 11:09, Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
> I have a few disassembler stored on some archive
> somewhere. But on the chance that a lister might
> know of a more modern Z-80 disassembler than what
> I'm likely to have, I thought I'd post a query.
I use dz80, which you can find at http://www.inkland.org/dz80/index.htm
I see the current version is 2.0 (March 2002), but I use 1.31 (June 1999).
Actually, I made a few small changes to make the unix version work more
like other unix software (mostly to do with option letters and arguments,
which were strange and DOS-like in the original, and to allow use of hex
and octal in addresses and output, plus a couple of bugfixes for long
jumps).
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Jus' a little news blurb:
Mar 14, 2002 8:30 AM PT
Old Atari games play on Sony Ericsson phones
Mobile phone maker Sony Ericsson on Thursday announced partnerships
with two companies making games for mobile phones in its drive to
challenge handset market leader Nokia through mobile entertainment.
The newly formed handset maker, Sony Ericsson, said partnerships with
iFone and Synergenix would enable consumers to download some games for
free from the Sony Ericsson Web site, or access others for a fee from
an operator's Web site. IFone will be providing games from its Atari
catalogue, including classics such as Asteroids and Pong. --Reuters
This is from: http://zdnet.com.com/2110-1105-859957.html
Cheers,
Bryan
P.S. Happy PI day!!!
Well,
The subject says it all... I have a ROM (a 2764
I think, it came to 8K bytes) I need to render
into the most readable source code possible.
It is Z-80 executable, and contains ASCII strings
that have their high-order bits set (yes, PR1ME).
I have a few disassembler stored on some archive
somewhere. But on the chance that a lister might
know of a more modern Z-80 disassembler than what
I'm likely to have, I thought I'd post a query.
This need comes after having acquired and replaced
every single board in my Prime, only to still have
it be non-operational.
Thanks in advance,
-doug quebbeman
> Ethan Dicks wrote:
>
>ports. No DMB32 or anything like that (not that I would mind
locating
>one of _those_ either).
If only you'd asked 18 months ago :-)
>As you can see, it's a full boat - 16MB of RAM in 5 cards. I'd
love to
>run across an inexpensive MS820-CA or two. I wouldn't mind pulling
the
If only you'd asked ... :-(
>MS820-AAs out, but 16MB is an OK amount of memory for a single
user. I'm
>also on a long-term quest for free or nearly free KA825 boards -
I'd be
>nice to bring this up to an 8350.
If ... No, done that enough for one email.
If you can get three KA820s (or KA825s)
you should be able to get that to work too!
(But you cannot mix KA820 & KA825).
>right from looking at where the Lance chip is on the DEBNT. If
anyone
>has installation instructions, particularly cabling instructions,
>those would be very helpful.
The Owner's Manual is available at:
http://208.190.133.201/decimages/moremanuals.htm
as is the Installation Guide.
I *thought* I'd also scanned and sent an
install guide for one of the VAXBI ethernet
options, but I guess not.
When I had one in the lab, my VAX 8350
just mostly worked so I don't have too much
experience of playing with the ethernet.
The DSB32 and DMB32, and the CPU(s)
and memory were all pretty straightforward.
The only funny I remember with ethernet is
that you need to cable up a little bit extra
for the power required by the AUI in
the bulkhead. But that may well have been
the VAX 6000 ...
Antonio
> -----Original Message-----
> From: M H Stein [mailto:mhstein@canada.com]
> Freedom Fighters? Revolutionaries? Wow! And I thought we
> were just weirdos & nerds...
I think the politically correct term is "futurist" ;)
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
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'
I saw one of these yesterday. It looks like a monitor with floppy
drive in the bottom, at the back was a plug for the power and another
labelled video. I could not see anyplace for a keyboard to be
attached.
Does anyone know anything about this machine?
Collector of Vintage Computers (www.ncf.ca/~ba600)
> > cdrecord -speed 8 -dev 0,6,0 -eject -v AUX_3.0.1_Install.toast_image
>
> I don't know if this works or not. I don't know if the image is "real ISO"
> (I used Toast, so I couldn't say).
>
> > When I try to boot up on a IIci, the floppy works ok, and it starts to
> > search for the CD in the CD drive. The cd drive is a toshiba 5401B, I
> > pulled from an alpha. It never finds a valid disk. So, to try to
> > figure out what was wrong, I used BasiliskII (a mac-on-unix emulation)
> > and tried to mount the CD image as a disk under system 7.6...and it
> > wanted to format it. Should the CD be mountable?
>
> No, it shouldn't be. Toast complained about it too, but it worked fine
> for installation. The boot disk is needed to mount it.
I have lots of trouble with older 68k Macs that were used
by clueless lusers... in particular, here at my current
orkplace, our #1 Mac advocate didn't realize you have to
power off the system and SCSI devices when attaching them/
removing hem from the chain. I'm not sure what goes bad after
five years of connecting/dosconnecting with the power on
(the terminator resistors shouldn't be affected, should they)?
But I run into this a lot; I have little luck with CDs
on Macs, and more trouble with outboard drives in general
than I'd care to say...
-dq
> > > Chris , I'm sorry, you're totally wrong. The 26 pin connector is for an
> > >Apple Audio Vision monitor. No F--king Dongle.
> > I said a number of times, I have NOT used the DOS card that works with
> > the 630/6100... and that is the card in question.
> >
> > But I CAN tell you that EVERY OTHER dos card Apple made, needs a video
> > dongle... and they ALL connect via a DB-26 connector on the back of the
> > DOS card... which is exactly what the person described on the back of
> > their DOS card.
> >
> > Now, it is quite possible that Apple put an AppleVision port on the
> > 630/6100 DOS card, why, I would have NO idea, since the 630 can't use an
> > applevision monitor... but maybe they did.
> >
> > HOWEVER, on the back of the 6100... is an HDI-45 video port... THAT is an
> > AppleVision video port. That is NOT the same thing as the DB-26 on the
> > DOS cards. Totally different port, totally different function.
> > BUT... I have heard that you do not need a video dongle with the 630/6100
> > DOS card... I just can't confirm it one way or the other... and again,
> > since they are describing EXACTLY what will happen to a Quadra 610
> > Houdini DOS card if the dongle is not connected... I felt it was a good
> > guess that they might in fact need one.
> >
> > Now I am REALLY going to have to get 630/6100 DOS card... just so I can
> > figure out once and for all if it needs a video dongle (or do you prefer
> > the term... video loopback connector)
I've never heard these called "video dongles", and while they don't
come in the package with the 6100 DOS board, the manual says it's
needed, shows its picture, and says it comes with the computer in
which you're trying to install the board.
Complete package, appears not to have ever been installed, the red
Apple seal is still intact on the diskette pack (but was easily pried
open by yours truly while checking).
I think I even have a 6100 for it to go in, but dunno what I'll
ever do with the mess...
-dq
Hi ho,
now I hauled it home, the modules of this very impressive MTI
StorageWare assembly. It's a marvellous piece of super redundant
24/7 operational gear for any VAX cluster. The fun starts with
a box that probably emulates an HSC90 or so, that one has two
power supplys, and there are two of those boxes each having the
4 redundant CI connectors. Each box has 3 SCSI (?) connectors
that run to another 4-box assembly and there is another layer
of redundancy. Then all this drives 4 arrays of 4GB SCSI disks
each having 8 such disks. I conclude that this must be a RAID
array, because I don't know how else one could address 8 disks
on a SCSI bus (isn't 7 devices appart from the controller the
maximum?) Initially it seemed straight-forward to use as a
simple CI/HSC to SCSI adapter, but now it looks like this stuff
is best kept as one big impressive unit. I'm going to try find
the manuals for this too. Does anyone have experience with
this kind of gear?
regards,
-Gunther
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On March 8, Doc Shipley wrote:
> Just got home with my brand-spanking-old MVII and set about playing
> with it. It's indecently clean inside, cables all in good shape, fans
> all free and clean, cards well seated.
Sounds like a girl I once knew.
> I even managed to get them all back in properly, in order, and the
> cables connected right.
This too.
> This means I would, if I had the distribution hardware for the DHQ11s,
> have 25 serial interfaces? (plus console) What exactly is the DMV11?
> "Synchronous communications controller" sounds like it requires a DMV11
> on the other end as well.
It's a sync serial interface...you'd connect it to a CSU/DSU and a
leased line, or something similar.
> Everything VMS I've looked at says the DEQNA is unsupported in VMS
> >v5.2. Is that unsupported as in "don't call DEC/Compaq/HP", or
> unsupported as in "it don't work"? Am I stuck with NetBSD then? Does
> anyone know if NBSD will mop-boot over the DEQNA? I don't have VMS
> older than 6.2.
DELQAs are fairly easy to come by. If you want one and can't find
one immediately, email me.
> Anybody have 2 breakout boxes for the M3107, and no M3107? We could
> equalize.... For that matter, if anybody needs the card, I'll just
> share.
I might have one of these, I will check. Email me if you don't hear
back about this by the end of the weekend.
> You know you're over the edge when the lack of ethernet access in your
> garage is a problem.
Nah...that's just a *start*.
-Dave
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> > Apparently, this chap has a free PDP11 & MicroVax-II going to
> > a good home...
> >
> The PDP-11/73 will be taking a car journey here next week ... I think -
but
> am not sure - that the Vax is also spoken for.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Digest blues strike again :-)
Ah well.
Al.
>Of course, the problem is that it's password protected and stuffed if I
>know what it was. Any ideas on how to break in (I suspect after so many
>years I don't really care about the data although it'd be fun to find out
>what I saved there).
>
>This is an Original Messagepad running OS 1.3.
IIRC, if you hold the power button ON (slide the switch down like you are
turning it on, but hold it down), and then press the reset button inside
the battery compartment... that will wipe the system memory. That will
reset the password as well as wipe out EVERYTHING you might have had
loaded.... basically it defaults it back to factory settings. (Although,
I think any system upgrades you installed are preserved).
There is probably a tech note about this on Apple's web site, as it was a
fairly common issue back in the Newton days.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Since I have the hood open on my 8200, I thought I'd diagnose the
troubles I've been having with getting a DEBNT working in there.
The 8200 I have came with a KDB50, 4MB RAM and one CPU. Nothing
else (and was $13,000 when my former employer bought it - I just
re-found the receipt). The only serial ports are the four console
ports. No DMB32 or anything like that (not that I would mind locating
one of _those_ either).
Since it first arrived, I put in more RAM, COMBOARDs (that we made)
and a DWBUA (which I'm diagnosing for its own problems). I am now
attempting to use a DEBNT I received some time back. Here's what
it looks like inside...
T1001 KA820 - 8200 CPU
T1010 DWBUA - Unibus adapter
T1001 KA820 - 8200 CPU (not installed at present)
T1002 KDB50 - KDB50 SDI adapter
T1003 KDB50 - KDB50 Processor board
T1019 MS820-BA - 4MB RAM for VAXBI processor
T1019 MS820-BA - 4MB RAM for VAXBI processor
T1019 MS820-BA - 4MB RAM for VAXBI processor
T1008 MS820-AA - 2MB RAM for VAXBI processor
T1008 MS820-AA - 2MB RAM for VAXBI processor
1294 CBSBI - COMBOARD-BI (sync comms front end processor)
T1032 DEBNT - Ethernet and TK50 controller
(I used http://www.stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au/vax/VAXBI.html for reference)
As you can see, it's a full boat - 16MB of RAM in 5 cards. I'd love to
run across an inexpensive MS820-CA or two. I wouldn't mind pulling the
MS820-AAs out, but 16MB is an OK amount of memory for a single user. I'm
also on a long-term quest for free or nearly free KA825 boards - I'd be
nice to bring this up to an 8350.
The disks are 3rd-party ESDI (1.2Gb each) drives on a 3rd-party ESDI-
to-SDI controller. Very nice. Beats an RA81 hands down. At the moment,
I'm running VMS 5.4 and plan to continue for some time (due to
compatibility needs for the COMBOARD stuff I used to write). I do have
a pair of RA70s I was thinking of putting on it as well.
So... the DEBNT itself fails self-test if there is nothing attached
to the AUI connector. If I attach a DEC loopback connector to the
AUI plug, ISTR I get the yellow LED telling me it passed. If I put
a 10BaseT transceiver on there, the TX light stays lit with no networking
drivers/software loaded.
First and foremost, I'm attempting to verify I put the cables on the
right places. I have 30-pin connector off one end of the AUI cable.
I have a 30-pin connector with one wire attached that seems to be a
jumper block of some kind. At the moment, they are attached to the
BI backplane at block "E", I think because that's what seemed to be
right from looking at where the Lance chip is on the DEBNT. If anyone
has installation instructions, particularly cabling instructions,
those would be very helpful.
Once I get the hardware happy, I'll need to move to software. Since
I want to stay at VMS 5.4, what are my TCP/IP options as a hobbyist?
The only other VAX I have set up with Ethernet is also running 5.4 -
a uVAX-II with a DEQNA. I do have VMS 6.1, but I'm not using it
at the moment.
Thanks for any DEBNT and VAXBI tips and hints. I have some docs, but not
everything. Mostly, I'm drawing on general VAX experience combined with
observation and experimentation. I know my way around the VAXBI bus, but
not around some of the peripherals.
-ethan
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--- Gunther Schadow <gunther(a)aurora.regenstrief.org> wrote:
> Ethan, I'm glad to hear you are making headway in fixing your
> fried board...
I was up to my elbows in the 8200 last night. I think I've identified
the target pin on the DD11DK that is the destination of the damaged pin
in the first place - BB2 which is defined as a ground. This is odd because
on the paddle card, the signal is individually routed over pin 30 of JP2 and
is not tied to anything else on either end.
Having inspected the cable carefully, multiple times, I'm still scratching
my head as to how the damage could have happened in the first place. I
had notes written right on the Unibus cables where they stick onto the
back of the VAXBI - the notations match the docs (I have the DWBUA technical
manual with installation instructions). I can't even see how putting the
paddle card in backwards would have caused a massive problem. I'm afraid
to hook everything up and power it on again before I identify what was
wrong.
OTOH, I did drop the T1010 card in the VAX and look for its presence on
the bus. With the cables disconnected, the card fails self-test (Duh!)
but when I go to read the ident register of the DWBUA (E 20000000), I
get back FFFFFFFF, not the expected value (as documented in the manual).
Having written VMS VAXBI drivers in the past, I can say that this is not
good. The card "shows up" - the POST shows a "-0", so the VAXBIIC of
the DWBUA is detected, but it's exceedingly unhappy. I am suspecting
that the card is more fried than one chip. I'll keep working on it to
see if the card needs a rudimentary amount of attachment to the UNIBUS
to get far enough into its self-test to initialize the ident register,
but I'm not hopeful about it - I think it should show the world what
it is, even if it's unhappy.
Fortunately, I have docs for all of this. At this time, I suspect the
M9313 UET, the DD11DK, the cables and the T1010 card. I just have to narrow
down the list of suspects. I suppose I could drop the card in with the
chip at risk removed and a lead hanging out so I can monitor what's
happening on that pin. The pin itself happens to go to the outer-most
pad on the VAXBI bus, looking at the board, it's the farthest pad
>from the VAXBIIC on the solder side. It goes diagonally in more-or-less
a straight line to a pin of a DEC DC021C, 4 or 5, IIRC (it's not in front
of me here). Either that pin sources a whopping amount of current
>from the DC021 and it was shorted to ground by a bad cable or a problem
in the BA11, or somehow a very wrong voltage came from the BA11 into
that pin. It's the only way I can see how a trace can get cooked and
the chip melted at that pin.
Back to the basement...
-ethan
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In a message dated 3/14/2002 9:54:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rschaefe(a)gcfn.org writes:
<< So far, all I've found is two or three references to it on IBM's site.
Nothing comes up for the part number 40G1041. At least, I think it's the
part number-- it looks like all the other part numbers. Pretty sure it's on
topic too, at least the 82365s on the back are dated '92. Anyone know what
the settings are? It's got a 4-position DIP switch for `SLOT ADDR, `IRQ',
and `ROM ADDR', and also a slide-switch marked `BLK1 BLK0'. I wonder what
that does.
I hope I can put this thing to use--it's really pretty nice, at least to
look at. It's got little solenoids to physically lock the cards in the
slot. Only trouble (aside from not knowing what it's set for) is that it's
just a hair too wide to fit into the two computers I've tried it in so far.
Hope I can find something to put it in!
>>
Sounds like it fits the IBM PS/2 E, machine type 9533.
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