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list changes & RFC on archives & rack chassis

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

1) Ok, here are the two things I was considering doing to change the mailing list settings.... A) Reject posts to the list which contain any kind of HTML content. I think this would be fairly unobtrusive - most people don't want HTML posts here anyways. And - I would bet that most all SPAM contains some form of HTML, so this might not get rid of all SPAM forever, but I think it would make the very few that come here dwindle to even less. Comments? B) I also like the 'self-policing' idea of making posts to the list from non-subscribers get a subject tag of [OL] or something like that. This one I am not sure how to do off the top of my head, but would think it pretty straightforward. Comments? 2) WRT the archives at www.classiccmp.org THAT is a project I have fallen far behind in. When I moved the list from the old ISP to the new ISP (me in both cases, long story)... something broke in getting emails from the list to the archive mechanism. I noticed this maybe a month ago, and when I started digging into it I realized it was time for a change - the archives there are not searchable and that just isn't acceptable. So - I have been looking for software to HTML'ize the mailing list that allows searching as well. I really need suggestions here as my initial searches came up less than satisfactory. The archives are currently using hypermail. My criteria is something that is FreeBSD and Sendmail friendly, and allows searching the archives OR viewing them by thread. I don't mind if the emails need to get stored in a database, but if they do, mysql must be the database used (picky aren't I). The only package I found had statements all over it to the effect that "this package will no longer be supported by the author". I did notice the list archives for netsaint that are stored at sourceforge look REALLY nice, and do allow searching, but didn't see a good way to follow threads. I would greatly appreciate it if anyone can point me to mail list archives that work well (for the user) and look nice (or to software for unix that does the same). Please send these suggestions to me off-list at jwest(a)classiccmp.org 3) This isn't really important - just random "what if" thinking out loud - I was considering moving the mailing list and mail list archives off to a separate machine that does nothing but classiccmp. This is being considered for logistics reasons, not for horsepower/load reasons. I have all the spare components (cpu, memory, drives, etc) but no spare rackmount chassis. I can just order a rackmount chassis under my company which I'm perfectly willing to do, but was wondering if anyone had a rackmount chassis just laying around that they didn't need and would donate to the cause. The key criteria - EIA units (space!). I would strongly prefer a 1U (1 EIA unit, or 1.75 inches) tall unit. We charge on rackspace by the inch, so I want the machine to take as little space as possible so I can obviously sell the rackspace to other paying customers. I would consider a 2U (2.5 inches) tall unit (which I already have spare) as a fall-back plan, but definitely nothing taller than that. Anyone have a spare laying around? If so, please contact me OFF LIST at jwest(a)classiccmp.org Regards, Jay West

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Apple's A/UX

by mythtech＠mac.com

Does anyone know where there are some archives of Apple's A/UX OS and some of its software (like AppleShare Server Pro, and Retrospect 2.0Ci). I just acquired an Apple Workgroup Server 95 (which is actually 9 years old, so its ALMOST on topic), and since it originally was designed to use A/UX, I figured it would be a good system to play with it on. I'm just not sure where to get a copy, so I figured I would start by asking here, since I know A/UX has been brought up before (heck, maybe I will get lucky, and one of you has the original software that came with the WGS 95, and would be willing to send me a copy). TIA -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Basic GIGI usage

by tony.eros＠machm.org

I set up a DEC GIGI yesterday, but I'm not sure I did it right. I connected the RGB connectors to the monitor and connected the "MONO" connector to the "Video In" port on the monitor. When I turn everything on, the GIGI's "Local", "Basic" and "L1" lamps are on and the screen paints from a solid light blue to a solid brick red. Then the screen clears, leaving a block cursor flashing at the top left corner of the screen and the "Online" lamp lit on the GIGI. But I get no response on the keyboard. Are there any GIGI owners out there with a tip as to what I'm doing wrong? Does anyone have any scanned GIGI docs? Thanks! -- Tony

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Recent Road Trip pics of stuff avalable PDX

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I was back in Portland for a few hours and visited a friend who is a secondary market dealer. He wanted to know what to do with a Sun 3/280 that I had mentioned to the list earlier and an Alpha 2100 Server he had gotten in. He also had found a couple of rare HP calculators that I had him searching for. Included are the Sun and Alpha, an Alpha 503e Personal Workstation, a HP9100B, a HP46 Desktop, The DEC InfoServer 150 I mentioned earlier and a sneak look at one of the "saved" piles The Alpha Server 2100 I am sure is working but the drives have been pulled, no sleds either. Came from the Government. I think the Alpha 503e PW is complete but I only took a picture of it as an after thought. The DEC InfoServer 150 looks complete and operational. I have the equipment to test there but not the time. I posted the pictures here: http://hometown.aol.com/innfogra/ The Alpha 503e he is planning on selling on eBay. He also wants top dollar for the HP Calculators. However I have got him to take offers from the list first. He has the ability to ship heavy items. He also does a good job shipping airport to airport on some heavy systems. I prefer to be contacted at whoagiii(a)aol.com. Things are getting busy and there are times I can't read the list for quite a while. Paxton Astoria, Oregon USA

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Symbolics 3620 screen issues

by tony.eros＠machm.org

I've seeing some screen jitters on the screen of my Symbolics 3620. The characters are sort of doubled up and horizontally offset, as if you had two copies of the same text on a pair of overhead slides, lined them up one over the other and then moved the top one about a half-character to the right. Take the whole thing, make it kind of blurry and you have the effect I see. Is this a standard sort of monitor problem that is easily fixed by tweaking some internal pot (I hope!) or is it likely some bigger problem? Does anyone have any maintenance documentation on this beast or a spare monitor they don't need? Thanks! -- Tony

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Toilett processing (Was: ZX-TEAM meeting and Webcam)

by zmerch＠30below.com

Rumor has it that Douglas Quebbeman may have mentioned these words: > -- and I said originally -- >> I remember seeing greenbar, pinfed *bedsheets* a long time >> ago... I wonder if any company's still making them. ;-) >If not, someone has a lot of it in stock... > >I bought a brand new box of 20lb greenbar at Office Despot >in June 2001 for $38.00. I was really talking about the bedsheets - I think they'd be a cool part of 'retro dream-computing...' and might be quite rare nowadays... I have a color lazer with serial/parallel/ethernet ports, full Postscript 2 capability, 2G SCSI hard drive, and 112Meg RAM - I can print from most any classic machine I have (some multiport, like my Tandy 200, can print on the serial & parallel interfaces... ;-) so actual greenbar paper isn't ezactly at the top of my list... The only classic machine I can't get to print is my MicroVAX 3100/m38 - and that's only because I can't get it to talk TCP/IP... :-( <sniff> Laterz, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig. If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.

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Free highspeed PPT punch available..

by jos.mar＠bluewin.ch

the catch ? It's local pickup only in Zurich , Switzerland.n Its a 110 V rackmount Tally unit in good cosmetic condition, functionality unknown. Contact me offlist if interested. Jos Dreese

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PDP 7 saga

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Pardon my bad taste in replying to my own message, and the spelling error on the previous subject line. I am posting this on the list because of the broad interest and the fact that I haven't compiled a list of all interested. I will do that soon. I did not get to look at it. My meeting schedule got changed around and was not able to make connections. I did talk with people on the phone so they know there is interest. I spoke with the operator and he said that it is just "idle" at the moment. I have scheduled another appointment for April 1st or 2nd when I will be next down there. It sounds like nothing is happening immediately. Expect pictures like the ones I have posted of my recent Road trip. Paxton Astoria, OR

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HELP! RA81 power sequencing jumper, where the heck is that?

by bqt＠update.uu.se

On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Gunther Schadow wrote: > Whatever. Who can tell me where this power sequencing jumper > is so that I can set it to being the first to spin up? You have two small round connectors on the back of the drive. Those are the power sequence in and out. You usually hooked all (or groups) of RA81 together with the power sequence cables, and the drives started in sequence. About 10 seconds between each drive. The first drive have a special plug in the in-socket. Johnny Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt(a)update.uu.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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HP9133 HDAs (was Re: DSQD Drives)

by fmc＠reanimators.org

ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote (after Joe Rigdon): > > 225s and 251s are handy to keep around since they'll replace a number of > > OLD hard drives. I've used 225s to replace the dries inside of some of the > > HP HP-IB disk drives. > > The hard disks in my HP9133s _are_ ST225s. And AFAIK they're original > from HP. Sounds like a 9133D, which did have a half-height ST225 inside. The earlier 9133XVs used something full-height. -Frank McConnell

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PDP & saga

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I am posting this on the list because of the broad interest and the fact that I haven' t compiled a list of all interested. I will do that soon. I did not get to look at it. My meeting schedule got changed around and was not able to make connections. I did talk with people on the phone so they know there is interest. I spoke with the operator and he said that it is just "idle" at the moment. I have scheduled another appointment for April 1st or 2nd when I will be next down there. It sounds like nothing is happening immediately. Expect pictures like the ones I have posted of my recent Road trip. Paxton Astoria, OR

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Tek 2230 @ 2232

by mdg＠idirect.com

Hi; Question to you Tek gurus; is the 2230 a true digital scope meaning that what you see is a digitized signal or is it an analog scope that has a digital storage function that you turn ON whenever you need to capture something ?. Is the 2232 the same in that respect ? . I remember using one of them years ago at work - I could see a nice trace of 67 MHz (analog) but I could also use a digital storage function to capture a 20 kHz event. Now I need one for myself; as for the digital scopes I've found that the ones I'd accept are those with 2 Gs/sec to be able to see a series of not very repeatable periods at 80 MHz but they are a bit too expensive... .So I need a 100 MHz analog with digital storage capability at lower freq. Please respond to my E-mail adress: mdg(a)idirect.com Thanks, Art

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Infoserver 150 DEC

by fdebros＠verizon.net

Does anybody here have a Users Manual I could purloin? Fred

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New Additions to the Museum

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

1. Singer/Friden EC 1117 calculator that works got it for $3. 2. 20+ different mousepads. 3. NEC TurboGrafx 16 with CD ROM missing controller and ac adapter. 4. NEC TurboBooster 5. TRS-80 fifteen meg external harddrive. Model 26-4156 6. TRS-80 Model II KB 7. Entex electronics Hockey hand held console from 1979. 8. GI Joe MAINFRAME action figure - New from 1986. 9. Atari 7800 Pro system with 15 + cartridges. 10. Box full of Sega Saturn items. 11. A Nintendo Virtual Boy 12. Compaq Portable 386 "lunchbox style". 13. Book Computers The Machines We Think With by D.S. Halacy, Jr - 1969. Have not read it yet but the pic's are nice. I have already spotted a few items that I will have to start looking for.

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MiniMINC

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

Oh yeah... the PDT had 6 terminal connectors on the back -- the console port, three serial lines for terminals, one serial line for a printer and one modem port which could be either asynch or synch. Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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FS/Trade: StorageTek 2920 9track

by pat＠cart-server.purdueriots.com

I'm looking to get rid of my StorageTek 2920 9track tape drive, if anyone is interested. It *might* need a new head, but probably just needs a better I/O card than what I had. PERTEC interface, rack-mountable (actually needs to be racked for it to sit up correctly), about 150lbs, 120VAC in. It worked for a few tapes I tried - the problem might actually be in the tapes I was attempting to use with it. Would prefer local pickup, but could ship (assuming I can find somewhere that'll take something this heavy) if paid enough to do it. I'm not really looking for much money, just 'enuough' for a couple meals or so. Best offer within 24hrs gets it (or a flip of the coin if I get multiple offers). -- Pat West Lafaytte, IN.

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My VMS Conundrums... (was: Toilett processing...

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Geoff Roberts <geoffrob(a)stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au> >?? I didn't think the video device need to be configured. VMS should take >care of that, and it should 'just work'. Yep, usually on install. RE: printing. The default printer will go to one of the serial ports, nominally one labeled with a printer. You can do a {print/que=devname} also. UCX or one of the IP stacks can be installed. However I vaguely remember around V5.5 remote ques and printservers were incorperated into VMS services. Allison

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IBM 3480 parts

by pat＠purdueriots.com

Well, I can't find any buyers for my IBM 3480 units, so I'm starting to disassemble one of them so I can re-gain some free space and probably sell off the large chunks of steel. I was wondering - does anyone (Sridhar?) have any technical docs for the 3480, like a service manual or something that would tell me the pinouts of things like the display? Thanks -- Pat

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SIMTEL (was Re: Source code for 805x line-by-line assembler?)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I'm hoping to come up with an alternative to this, naturally, but I have to > start somewhere, and that will require a line-by-line assembler, so one can > use the mnemonics instead of having to learn the HEX codes for each > instruction. > > Hopefully there's one already been done out there somewhere ... Brain rot kept me from remembering how I handled this... I didn't... well, I have a hardware debugger called DryIce-51 or something like that. You pull your 8051, plug this in, it has its own 8051, and IIRC it has an assembler built-in. Handy for debugging interrupt routines, althought it's not a true ICE, so you can't trace through machine states. Then again, more brain rot... I had *some* kind of monitor, because for the DS5000, I found it handier to use it than to pull the chip and stick in the DryIce. Found the SIMTEL 8051 stuff, at least what I downloaded. Wasn't much. But I have a WIC-80 tape labeled to indicate some more 8051 stuff is on it. The 486 with the Jumbo-250 seems to be dying... -dq

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Wright Punch up for auction

by mhstein＠canada.com

Gee, Brian, I offered one of these right here at the same time as that pile of IBM docs that I sent to Norm & you; ya shoulda spoken up. How are you guys coming along with scanning those manuals? Anything on line yet? mike -----------------Original Message----------------- Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 16:08:22 -0800 From: "Brian Knittel" <brian(a)quarterbyte.com> Subject: Wright Punch up for auction There's a Wright Punch up for auction at www.govliquidation.com. The Wright Punch is a cool little manual hollerith card keypunch machine. Someone ought to get it! It slipped by me -- auction closes at 8 PM eastern time, that's less than an hour from now. Sealed Bid sale, $35 min. The downside is you have to pick it up in Norfolk, VA next week, and take a big pile of other junk along with it. You'll need a pickup. If you're interested it's event 623, lot 46, item 37. http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=25154 Brian

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ZX81 and 6116

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 23, Tony Duell wrote: > IIRC it's a true static RAM, 1K*8, 24 pin DIL, pinout similar to the 2716 > or 6116. I think WE/ is on pin 21, and I can't remember what's on pin 19 > (which would be A10 if it were a 2K device). Maybe nothing, maybe another > CS input. > > It was not commonly used, but my Nascom2 has a few in it... What's a Nascom2? That name sounds familiar. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Watch those lateral G's man, St. Petersburg, FL I've got sandwiches in my lap!" -Sridhar

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My VMS Conundrums... (was: Toilett processing...

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Roger Merchberger wrote: > >The usual... I don't have any paper-based documentation whatsoever -- all I http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/ Admittedly not as convenient as paper-based, but pretty useful nonetheless. Start, I guess, with the User's Manual: http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/73final/6489/6489pro.html >I've tried 'help' but there are a lot of things that *just* *won't* *run* >whatsoever, including [but not limited to] every text editor I've tried, >because I can't figure out how to get the terminal screen configured... >which (of course, with my luck) 'help' either 1) doesn't tell me, or 2) has >obfuscated it *so* badly that I won't have a chance in Hades of ever >finding it there... What terminal do you have connected? If it's one of the VT series, try: $ SET TERMINAL/INQUIRE and don't type anything until the $ prompt comes back >I used the VMS construct of DOS's 'copy con filename.txt' {I don't remember >what it is anymore -- it's been 6-9 months since I've even sparked up my >VAX} to try to do a few things on it, but it's so hard editing anything >that I took what little spare time I had towards other pursuits. :-/ $ EDIT filename.txt will fire up some variant of TPU with an EVE personality but EDIT/EDT is still around (if you've ever used a standard editor on RT11 or RSX, this is pretty near identical. emacs and vi[m] are available too. >The system: >VAXStation 3100/m38, 32Meg RAM, VMS Version 7.1 [the full monty - even has >the BASIC package in the distro - 11 disks worth!], (2) 1Gig hard drives >{RZ26s? I think - it's been a while}, 2Meg 8-plane grafix buffer [this is >the biotsch that won't config right for the terminal settings, hence no >text editors] 17" display, keyboard, mouse [of course] & I just got off >eBay 5 AUI->RJ45 transceivers [$22US shipped! Whoohoo!] so I won't have to >have thinnet strung all over my new ancient house - I can stick with Cat5. Did it come with the OS installed or did you do it? You could just re-install to get DECwindows. Without DECwindows you cannot do full-screen editing on the monitor - it's just a dumb glass tty. Your options appear to be: 1) flip S3 and hook up a VT to the printer port and use it as an alternate console 2) log in over the network (telnet or SET HOST) 3) Install DECwindows 4) Use EDT in line mode or use TECO (4) would be an education, but perhaps not ideal :-) (3) is the way to go. (2) you should do ... all VAXes have the right to be networked. Antonio

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HP9133 HDAs (was Re: DSQD Drives)

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Yeh-- The 'XV' used the ST-419. Fifteen meg, *very* hard to get. An RD-52 can be used in it's place, although you can only use 15mb of it. I fergit what the 'V' used (was it an ST-506?). Jeff On 23 Mar 2002 09:43:51 -0800 Frank McConnell <fmc(a)reanimators.org> writes: > ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote (after Joe Rigdon): > > > 225s and 251s are handy to keep around since they'll replace > a number of > > > OLD hard drives. I've used 225s to replace the dries inside of > some of the > > > HP HP-IB disk drives. > > > > The hard disks in my HP9133s _are_ ST225s. And AFAIK they're > original > > from HP. > > Sounds like a 9133D, which did have a half-height ST225 inside. > The earlier 9133XVs used something full-height. > > -Frank McConnell > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Free highspeed PPT punch available..

by jos.mar＠bluewin.ch

the catch ? It's local pickup only in Zurich , Switzerland.n Its a 110 V rackmount Tally unit in good cosmetic condition, functionality unknown. Contact me offlist if interested. Jos Dreese

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HP Sketchpro digitiser

by dl6du＠t-online.de

Hi Do You have any information yet ?? I Have also such a digitizes and want to use it wit autocad 14 .. do you have any drivers ?? Aart

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IBM 3480 stuff

by pat＠cart-server.purdueriots.com

Well, as I've not found anyone willing to come and get a 3480 tape drive unit from me, I've taken one apart and am planning on selling the 'useful' bits from it. I still have two drive units completely un-touched, so if you're interested in them, drop me a line. I'm not looking to get much money, just enough to cover what I paid for it. So far, I have available: 2x 3480 Tape drives.. the actual 'drive' taken out of the unit. 1x 3480 drive unit power supply 1x 3480 drive 'air pump' motor + filter + air tubing.. a 1/3HP, 250VAC motor with an 'air pump' assembly on it, along with the IBM air filter assembly and whatever teflon (?) clear tubing that came out of the drive unit. 1x 3480 tape drive unit 'display' that has the main 'user-controls' for the drive on it. 1x 3480 A22 tape controller 'logic boards unit'.... the set of logic boards, backplane, and cable from the 3480's controller. Bunches of custom IBM chips and weird-ass cables (don't know the real name, look like a 16pin(?) DIP socket stuck on one of those plastic with metal traces ribbon-cables. 2x 3480 B22 tape drive units, complete. If I don't get any responses, I plan to (attempt) to get rid of the drives on eBay, disassemble the power supplies for parts, try and sell the motors to industrial suplus dealers, and save the displays for who-knows-what. Try and contact me ASAP, if there's interest I can hold onto something for a while if need-be. -- Pat West Lafayette, IN, USA

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SIMTEL (was Re: Source code for 805x line-by-line assembler?)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I found a number of hits there from GOOGLE, but found, also, that they were > apparently out of date and inaccessible. > > A traditional macro-assembler is a wonderful tool, but probably inappropriate > for inclusion in a debug monitor intended to reside in the processor's > on-board ROM. If you don't mind translating a not too-terribly-long program for another processor, then I believe MIKBUG for the 6800 may do ok. My first embedded systems project was a 6800, and I included MIKBUG in the ROM so that I could precisely what you want to do. The 8051 being a more generous chip register-wise, translating it shouldn't be difficult. You can find at least one version here: http://www.swtpc.com/mholley/MP_A/mikbug.txt Looks like a fun weekend project. Regards, -doug q

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ZX81 and 6116

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 23, Pete Turnbull wrote: > Zilog made a "quasi-static RAM" 4K x 8, called Z8132, but it's > 28-pin. I think that's the Z6132...interesting chip... -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Watch those lateral G's man, St. Petersburg, FL I've got sandwiches in my lap!" -Sridhar

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SIMTEL (was Re: Source code for 805x line-by-line assembler?)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > From: Douglas Quebbeman <dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com> > > > Personal preference here is for the traditional macro assembler > > generating .HEX files... SIMTEL has quite an extensive collection > > of software for the 8031/8032/8051/8052 and derivatives... > > Doug, does the SIMTEL20 repository still exist? Where? > > I don't mean simtel.com where all the DOS and Windows stuff is . . . Urg. It might not, so I suppose I need to package up the 8051 et al stuff for any who want it... I think I can get that done today. -dq

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DCA IRMA-III convertible 3270 interface

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 23, Doc wrote: > > > Car seats? Get a grip. Yes, literally, too. At spring break, on the > > > beach or near it, a motorcycle is the *only* acceptable conveyance. > > > > It's a Porsche 911 convertible. Think you can make an exception to > > that rule? ;) > > Grumble, mutter, curse... > > Are you _sure_ it's a convertible? Want me to send you a picture? ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Watch those lateral G's man, St. Petersburg, FL I've got sandwiches in my lap!" -Sridhar

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List Archives

by jhfinepw4z＠compsys.to

Hi Everyone, Now that I have switched to my "newer" system with the box that holds TEN 5 1/4" hard drives, I am thinking of some house keeping on the files I maintain. One very large mess is the set of classiccmp posts that I have some interest in. I would like to group them, but have not decided on sub-sets as yet. I am thinking of the following: Classiccmp General Classiccmp List (this post will go here) Classiccmp Technical Classiccmp Spam (including comments on spam) Has anyone else set up their own sub-sets? I guess I could try these out and see how they work, but I though I would ask for suggestions? Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

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DCA IRMA-III convertible 3270 interface

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 23, r. 'bear' stricklin wrote: > > He's still crashing on my couch...I think the whoe gulf coast thing is > > getting to his brain. Clean air and...umm...well, spring break, > > beach, bikinis that are about this --> <-- big, you kno... ;) > > So now I'm sitting here in my toner-stained pants, sucking on a bloody > knuckle, and I only want to know one thing. > > Where the @*(*& did I go wrong? Hey, don't sweat it. I'm sitting here at 2:30AM hacking on sendmail configs. Short of a bottle of chloroform or a really big net, I don't think there'll be any of those "this --> <-- big" bikinis gracing my bedroom floor anytime soon. :-< -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Watch those lateral G's man, St. Petersburg, FL I've got sandwiches in my lap!" -Sridhar

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TSX-PLUS (Was MicroPDP 11/73)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 22, 17:18, R. D. Davis wrote: > Quothe Pete Turnbull, from writings of Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 06:11:34PM +0000: > > Didn't anyone else show interest in TSX? > > If I recall correctly, I did. Weren't there at least five of us? I thought there were at least three or four, but I wasn't sure about more -- and it's not worth Jerome's while to do anything unless there's enough interest. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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ZX81 and 6116

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 22, 22:43, Richard Erlacher wrote: > I guess I'm having a "senior moment" but I don't remember the 4118 at all, > though I definitely remember that there was such a thing. Mostek made a > couple of pseudo-static RAM parts that were on a ~2716-compatible pinout. Was > that one of them? I've got some 1K- and 2K- byte parts from those days but I > don't remember the numbers right offhand. > > Perhaps someone could refresh my recollection. 4118 is the same pinout as a 2716 except that pin 21 is the /WR line instead of Vpp, and pin 19 is NC instead of A10. It's a genuine static part, 1K x 8. A 6116 is similar, but 2K x 8, with A10 on pin 19. There are also low-power CMOS versions of the 6116. Zilog made a "quasi-static RAM" 4K x 8, called Z8132, but it's 28-pin. They also, confusingly, made 16-pin dynamic RAMs 8K x 1 and 16K x 1 called Z6115 and Z6116, similar to the more common 4116 DRAM. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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DCA IRMA-III convertible 3270 interface

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Wasn't there some mention of these things a few weeks ago? Was somebody looking for one? I seem to have a couple. It's a flip-over MCA/ISA adapter. Speaking of PS/2s and 3270s, did Sridhar permanently toast himself? He's been notably absent lately. Doc

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ZX81 I/O ports

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> > You mena it's beyond the ingenuity of these people who connect up > scanners/cameras/LCD panels/... to the ZX81 to add a serial port? No, no, I meant a ZX81 doesn't have one built in. Of course we use the Z80A-SIO (and -PIO). Modems were also commercially produced in the mid-eighties which allowed a simple mod so they could also be used as serial ports. > I've not tried it, but I can see no good reason why you couldn't link up > just about any common serial chip/UART to the expansion connector, and > then buffer the outputs of that to/from RS232 levels. It's been done any number of ways. ZX-TEAM also has a ZX81-hosted BBS ;>) Glen 0/0

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ZX81 and 6116

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 22, 23:51, Glen Goodwin wrote: > > From: Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> > I read that using the 2114s saved Uncle Sir Clive 25p per unit. When the 4118 was scarce, that was probably true. > I've also > noticed that on the earlier boards all the ICs were socketed, but the later > ones were spotty, socket-wise. Typical Sinclair chintziness. Not necessarily. A soldered connection is generally more reliable than a socketed one. For that reason, many manufacturers solder most parts, unless they contain firmware that might need changed, or are custom parts subject to revision (PALs, ULAs, etc). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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DCA IRMA-III convertible 3270 interface

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 23, Doc wrote: > Car seats? Get a grip. Yes, literally, too. At spring break, on the > beach or near it, a motorcycle is the *only* acceptable conveyance. It's a Porsche 911 convertible. Think you can make an exception to that rule? ;) > <flamebait> > European or Russian only. > </flamebait> Uh-huh. Troublemaker. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Watch those lateral G's man, St. Petersburg, FL I've got sandwiches in my lap!" -Sridhar

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A good glue guide

by vcf＠siconic.com

Here's an interesting site. You tell it what two materials you want to glue together and it makes recommendations. http://www.thistothat.com/ -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 23, Doc wrote: > > He's still crashing on my couch...I think the whoe gulf coast thing is > > getting to his brain. Clean air and...umm...well, spring break, > > beach, bikinis that are about this --> <-- big, you kno... ;) > > > > There have been some sights around here that I'd swear were about to > > make his little mainframe-hackin' head explode. ;) > > To which, I assume, Mr. McGuire is totally immune? Are you kidding? I've just escaped living near College Park, Maryland for the past nine years. I haven't seen this many heterosexual women in the same place at the same time in, oh, about nine years. I now find it prudent to apply a liberal quantity of ScotchGard(tm) to my car seats before going out. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Watch those lateral G's man, St. Petersburg, FL I've got sandwiches in my lap!" -Sridhar

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DCA IRMA-III convertible 3270 interface

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 23, Doc Shipley wrote: > Speaking of PS/2s and 3270s, did Sridhar permanently toast himself? > He's been notably absent lately. He's still crashing on my couch...I think the whoe gulf coast thing is getting to his brain. Clean air and...umm...well, spring break, beach, bikinis that are about this --> <-- big, you kno... ;) There have been some sights around here that I'd swear were about to make his little mainframe-hackin' head explode. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Watch those lateral G's man, St. Petersburg, FL I've got sandwiches in my lap!" -Sridhar

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SIMTEL (was Re: Source code for 805x line-by-line assembler?)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Douglas Quebbeman <dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com> > Personal preference here is for the traditional macro assembler > generating .HEX files... SIMTEL has quite an extensive collection > of software for the 8031/8032/8051/8052 and derivatives... Doug, does the SIMTEL20 repository still exist? Where? I don't mean simtel.com where all the DOS and Windows stuff is . . . Glen 0/0

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free Tektronix 7603 manual for shipping costs

by TMWillis＠research.att.com

J. Darren Peterson: I realize you posted the e-mail below two years ago, but I am wondering if you are still looking for a good home for your Tek 7603 manual. I just recently acquired one and I am trying to fix it up. You can contact me at: tmwillis(a)worldnet.att.net. Thanks for your generosity. Fellow Tektronix enthusiast Tom Willis From: J. Darren Peterson (jdarren(a)ala.net) Date: 02/21/00-08:17:28 AM Z I would like to find a home for a Tektronix 7603 / R7603 Oscilloscope Service Manual and will give it for the cost of shipping. The shipping will be $3.20 for USPS Priority Mail. I will send to first person to contact. Thanks.

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WTB: DEC MicroVAX II

by tpao＠co.la.ca.us

Including drives, memory, SCSI controller and ready to go.

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TRS-80 pocket (Was: I'm looking for ___, will trade ___.)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: steve [mailto:tosteve@yahoo.com] > Things I'm looking for: > - HP-85 > - Exidy Sorcerer > - NEC PC-8201a > - Commodore 128D > - TRS-80 pocket PC (PC1) > - Panasonic RL-H1000 Pocket PC This reminds me... I have a "pocket" computer, which is, as far as I can tell, nearly identical to the above TRS-80, except made by some other company. (Don't remember which) Does anyone know a source for LCD screens for these things? My screen is cracked, and I'd actually like to use this thing again. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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FS: HP 7470A paper plotter...

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

I just rescued an HP 7470A plotter from hitting the round file. But realistically, I'll never use it. has an open foil package with the 5 colored pens in it. And a serial looking cable. Free for pickup in New Haven, CT, or pay (via money order or PayPal) for shipping, packing materials, and maybe something for the labor. :) Now, kinda OT, but here goes. Answers probably should be off-list... I have a Sun Ultra1 Creator. It doesn't want to boot to the hooked up Sun monitor, and yes, a type 5c keyboard and optical mouse are connected too. It boots to the serial terminal, and I get a message "Memory Address not Aligned", then the ok prompt. Haven't had a chance to search online yet. This is my fist foray into the world of Sun. Hopefully I can get Solaris 8 on this puppy, then move to NetBSD... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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by uban＠ubanproductions.com

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Semour Cray Lecture

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

This is a nice lecture. Does anyone know where I can find a copy of the book that is referenced in the lecture: J. E. Thornton. Design of a Computer: The Control Data 6600. Scott Foresman and Company, 1970 --tom At 10:19 PM 3/21/02 -0800, you wrote: >Hey y'all ... I just found a web-based version of a lecture >Gordon Bell gave about Seymour Cray in 1997. It's wonderful. > >http://www.research.microsoft.com/users/gbell/craytalk/sld001.htm > >There are detailed notes under many of the slides. The last slide >is hilarious and kind of touching. > >brian > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >_| _| _| Brian Knittel / Quarterbyte Systems, Inc. >_| _| _| Tel: 1-510-559-7930 Fax: 1-510-525-6889 >_| _| _| Email: brian(a)quarterbyte.com >_| _| _| http://www.quarterbyte.com > > >

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Tango Schematic capture, PCB layout and autorouting programs (fwd)

by donm＠cts.com

Joe, the chap below contacted meabout the Tango stuff that I sent to you, and has been unable to reach you at the most recent address I have for you. Would you please contact him. Thanks. - don ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 15:47:31 +0800 From: S. K. Li <saikeungli(a)ctimail3.com> To: Don Maslin <donm(a)cts.com> Subject: Re: Tango Schematic capture, PCB layout and autorouting programs Unfortunately that email address is not O.K. too. Do you have another one? Thanks. SK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Maslin" <donm(a)cts.com> To: "S. K. Li" <saikeungli(a)ctimail3.com> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 9:20 AM Subject: Re: Tango Schematic capture, PCB layout and autorouting programs > > > On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, S. K. Li wrote: > > > Many thanks for your reply. Would you give me Joe's updated email address? I > > could not reach him with the old one. Thanks. > > I saw an email from him today from `rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com'. Try that one. > > - don > > >

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IBM PPC Laptop on eBay

by dittman＠dittman.net

I saw this on eBay and thought people here might be interested: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2011374761 I am not associated in any way with the seller, I found this looking for tape drives(!). -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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