- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by jmkatcher＠yahoo.com

Obsolete SPARC/Solaris server purchased on eBay. Takes some sort of SIMM/DIMM but not specified anywhere. I know it's not exactly a historic machine, though it is awfully nice as a home computer. Is anyone familiar with these beasts? Many thanks in advance, Jeff Katcher jmkatcher(a)yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/

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Turbo BASIC (was Re: QL (was: ZX-81 Question))

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Glen Goodwin [mailto:acme_ent@bellsouth.net] > > For a while I used Turbo Basic under MS-DOS. It was an > > incredible development environment... for a BASIC ... running > > under MS-DOS... Ok, so it was "passable." Still :) > No, it was incredible. Removing the constraints of using I wouldn't go that far. It was still a BASIC ;) I like my HLLs to have _some_ structure. > line numbers was > a huge improvement on its own. Allowing variables local to a > function or > procedure was a nice bonus as well. Right on both counts, there. > Turbo BASIC also has an interpretive mode. I vaguely remember this, actually. It's been a while, as I said. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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My VMS Conundrums... [long - multiple replies]

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Merchberger [mailto:zmerch@30below.com] > Then I get something to the effect of (it's been a long time): Unknown > Terminal. Well, a: SET TERM/DEV=vt100 (I think) will get you past that, but I don't know whether the console will support enough VT escapes to run TPU. Maybe. :) Try it and see. Generally the graphics subsystems on VAXen are only used for running a windowing system. If you wanted to run DECWindows, it's a different story. > It was easier getting a full-screen text editor running on my > CoCo, for > crimeny sakes... [[and it has a real OS, to... ;-) ]] Well, if your CoCo runs OS9, I'll agree with that last part. Still, it shouldn't be such a problem on your VAX. > be, if a little wordy (SET DEFAULT [000000] versus cd / ... > thank god I top > out at 110wpm... ;-) but I really wish it would have been a Actually that's not as bad as it seems. First off, you can abbreviate default to "DEF", and [000000] to [0,0] Next, you generally don't need to change to the root directory, because there's not much there aside from the index file (which it's usually bad to manipulate by hand ;) VMS also will assume that if you SET DEF [FOO] FOO is in the root directory. Otherwise it wants you to prepend a directory separator, and say [.FOO] Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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ancient terminals, was: Re: ZX-81 Question

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 3/26/02 9:20:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, jkunz(a)unixag-kl.fh-kl.de writes: > And that reminds me of the Tektronix ASCII Terminal I rescued lately. > Characters are drawn only once and the analog "memory" display tube > keeps the dots fluoresceing. No screen refresh! This is one of the > Terminals where you can see that Tektronix is well known for > oscilloscopes... > What model of Tek terminal? Paxton Astoria, OR

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RSX-11 Documentation available

by tim.myers＠protasis.co.uk

I've been made aware of a set of RSX-11 documentation that's being disposed of in the building where I work. This wil be disposed at the end of Wednesday 27th, so if anyone wants it, please mail me directly now! I've got no where to store this long-term, but can hold it for a week or two. There will be no cost for this, but you will have to pay for shipping (I can FedEx internationally), or collect from Chester, UK. There are 9 rather large 3-ring binders, so shipping to the US may be prohibitive. --- Tim Myers, Protasis UK Ltd., Cheshire Innovation Park, PO Box 1, Chester, CH1 3SH. Tel : +44 151 355 4590 DDI : +44 151 355 4931 Fax : +44 151 355 4942

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MiniMINC

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>Actually there was a dual microm that would give the PDT11/150 >EIS and FIS... *actually* -- the dual microm simply combines the 3007 and 3010 microm chips into one dual carrier, which frees up a slot for the EIS/FIS chip... you still need the EIS/FIS chip, however. I've got a couple of PDT-11/150s with the mod. There was a version of space invaders for a VT100 on RT-11 which required EIS/FIS for some reason. For quite a while we used the EIS/FIS emulator driver (I think it was from Ian Hammond), at least until we found a supply for dual microms and EIS/FIS chips. (This was back in the days when the PDT-11/150 was sold to DEC employees and we had a broad-spectrum mailing list to discuss it -- I was a moderator for it) Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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Heathkit et-3100

by mhstein＠canada.com

http://bama.sbc.edu/heath.htm or http://www.circuitarchive.co.uk/heath.htm What else do ya need? I have one of these somewhere; not much to it... mike ----------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 08:36:33 +0200 From: John Franklin <John.Franklin(a)sita.co.za> Subject: Heathkit et-3100 can anyone help. I am looking for manuals, diagrams etc or any info on the Heathkit ET-3100

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QL (was: ZX-81 Question)

by Huw.Davies＠kerberos.davies.net.au

At 04:05 PM 25/03/2002 -0500, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > For a while I used Turbo Basic under MS-DOS. It was an > > incredible development environment... for a BASIC ... running > > under MS-DOS... Ok, so it was "passable." Still :) > > > > I hear that DEC BASIC is good, too. > > > > Both of the above examples are compilers, though, I think. > >While it's possible that DEC BASIC was an early adopter >of incremental compilation techniques, I don't think so... >I'm pretty sure DEC BASIC is a simple interpreter. I guess >I should look at the source... It depends on which DEC BASIC. VAX BASIC was both an interpreter and a compiler. I tended to use the compiler - earned a living once programming a student records system in VAX BASIC, FMS and Indexed Sequential files. Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)kerberos.davies.net.au | "If God had wanted soccer played in the | air, the sky would be painted green"

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DEC Hardware design available

by aek＠spies.com

> Just a note that <http://www.alibris.com/home.cfm> lists two copies of > Computer Design: A DEC View ... for sale. One is $34 and one is $57. That's > cheaper than Ebay by a long shot. I have one up for $49 with no bids right now. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2011505056

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Source code for 805x line-by-line assembler?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> 805x processors cannot (without external hardware) write to program memory, so any > line assembler would be dependant on some (common) hardware tricks to write to > program space. Although I keep some Intel parts around, I prefer the Dallas Semiconductor DS5000 familiy, which allows software to partition its 64k memory between code space and data space. However, I'll grant that this qualifies under your definition of "hardware tricks", even though it's not quite what you had in mind. Regards, -dq

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My VMS Conundrums... [long - multiple replies]

by zmerch＠30below.com

Rumor has it that pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com may have mentioned these words: >On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Roger Merchberger wrote: > >> I've tried 'help' but there are a lot of things that *just* *won't* *run* >> whatsoever, including [but not limited to] every text editor I've tried, >> because I can't figure out how to get the terminal screen configured... >> which (of course, with my luck) 'help' either 1) doesn't tell me, or 2) has >> obfuscated it *so* badly that I won't have a chance in Hades of ever >> finding it there... > >If you have an ANSI terminal (or a vtXXX) hooked up to it, all you need to >do is 'set term/ansi'. If you're using a framebuffer monitor, I think >you're outa luck, both myself and a guy I know that worked for DEC either >can't figure it out or have deemed it impossible to do ANSI emulation on >those things (or anything useful). My suggestion is to try and get it to >work with a text-terminal first. Well, I've rescued a Wyse sumthinorother terminal, unknown condition but with an RJ-11 interface for the keyboard, and over the winter, I've finally found an RJ11-based Wyse keyboard... but with the move, I've not had time to actually test it... let alone I don't have a serial adapter that will work for it (or at least I'm not sure...) so that's something else I'd have to do... However, up until now I didn't have a terminal to use -- I kinda thought that a 2Mbyte 8-plane grafix framebuffer would have been good enough... :-/ >Second, once you install DecWindows (http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/), >it should auto-magically start up OR you can start it using a DCL script >called 'DECW$STARTUP.COM' or something similar. It should be available >under the 'SYS$MANAGER:' drive-alias. The URL above is a GREAT reference >to (Open)VMS - I've been able to figure out just about any problem with >those docs and this list. (thanks guys!) Thanks for the tip... I'll check it out once the system is set up again (prolly in a couple of months, if I'm lucky...) >Nice setup, makes my VAXstation 3200 look puny. :( Just promise to never >stop running VMS on it. With people like Gunther running Ultrix or NetBSD >on it ( <cough> sick bastards <cough> ;) the world needs as many VMS >users as it can get to stay in sync. Well, I also have one of the latest versions of Ultrix for it, and I had installed it to see what it was like... and I found it slow - but it did install *very* easily (unlike my trials & tribulations with VMS...) ============= and ============== Rumor has it that Carlini, Antonio may have mentioned these words: > What terminal do you have connected? > If it's one of the VT series, try: > $ SET TERMINAL/INQUIRE > and don't type anything until the $ prompt > comes back I don't have a terminal, but I'll try this when I get the system set up again - but I tried everything in the "help set terminal" and "set terminal xxxxx" most everything, and I couldn't get the framebuffer to recognize anything useful to get an editor working... ============ and ================== Rumor has it that Geoff Roberts may have mentioned these words: >> >> The only classic machine I can't get to print is my MicroVAX 3100/m38 - >> >and >> >> that's only because I can't get it to talk TCP/IP... :-( <sniff> >> > >> >Er, why not? What version of VMS? VMS 7.1... >IIRC, the VMS docs are viewable online at DEC^H^H^HCompaq's web site >somewhere. As others has stated, too... but it's tough to take those into the 'loo' for a little 'light reading...' ;-) >HELP SET TERMINAL should work, if you use a VT term into the console port. I tried to do that 'till I was blue in the face (at *least* 16 hours worth) -- it just doesn't work with a framebuffer... :-( >Hmmm, I managed to get a Vax 6310 going when I didn't have any idea what VMS >was, >so I'm sure you can do this.. Working, yes... working usefully... alas, no. :-( >EVE or just plain EDIT should work, again from a terminal. If the graphic >display working at all? Sure, the display is working great - until you try to start a text editor. Then I get something to the effect of (it's been a long time): Unknown Terminal. >> 2Meg 8-plane grafix buffer [this is >> the biotsch that won't config right for the terminal settings, hence no >> text editors] 17" display, keyboard, mouse [of course] > >?? I didn't think the video device need to be configured. VMS should take >care of that, and it should 'just work'. It 'just works' to display text -- lots of it (110+ columns at 58 lines or somesuch - looks bitchin' on the 17" monitor that it came with!) And it works great in Ultrix. Just won't let VMS run a damn text editor... :-( >Are you sure the monitor and graphic buffer are compatible? Error message? >Anything on the display? I pieced together 2 3100's to get the right mix of memory, hard drives, framebuffer & monitor, but the framebuffer & monitor were a matched pair; I just raided the second box for mem/HD. >Shouldn't be THAT hard.....Did you install VMS, or was it there already? I installed it myself - I think it took 2 tries, but once I got the hang of it it wasn't unusually difficult... it's trying to make it do something without a text editor afterwords that's been the PITA... ============== and ==================== Rumor has it that Eric Dittman may have mentioned these words: >> HELP SET TERMINAL should work, if you use a VT term into the console port. > >HELP doesn't require a VTxxx terminal. Yea, but the "SET TERMINAL" part does... I've used SET TERMINAL this, that & the other, to no avail... >> EVE or just plain EDIT should work, again from a terminal. If the graphic >> display working at all? > >Use EDIT/EDT in line mode. <Sarcasm> Holy-my-goodness... Why not just use EDLIN? </Sarcasm> <Really-Rude-Sarcasm> I've spent more than 6 years on this list, and all I hear is VAX this... VMS that... Ya Wanna Real System? VAX is the Only Way... VMS is the *only* Real OS... So I *finally* got one for myself - and I have to use a _line_ _editor_??? It was easier getting a full-screen text editor running on my CoCo, for crimeny sakes... [[and it has a real OS, to... ;-) ]] </Really-Rude-Sarcasm> The sarcasm is just letting off a little steam - I'm joking, really! Honestly, the hardware's great - and I'm sure VMS is all it's cracked up to be, if a little wordy (SET DEFAULT [000000] versus cd / ... thank god I top out at 110wpm... ;-) but I really wish it would have been a little easier to get working without having to hang a termainal off of it... And to be perfectly honest, at first all I really wanted to do with it: Write & run BASIC programs! I'd figured *hopefully* the BASIC was much more powerful than anything in the PeeCee world, and I wanted something faster than my CoCos... ... And learn VMS, in the process. >> > [1] Well, OK - to be technical, the thing runs *great* - I just can't *do* >> > a frelling thing with it... > >Someone is a "Farscape" fan. I wondered if anyone would pick up on that... ;-) As always, I've appreciated any & all advice that comes from the list, but the framebuffer/terminal issues seem like they're a rather tough nut to crack. To be honest, I think I'm going to mothball the VAX/VMS combo for now, and try installing VMS on my wife's retired DEC 3000/300 machine. It's only got 64M RAM, but if at least I can get DECWindows to install right off on the machine, it might give me a better "taste" of VMS to tinker with before I dive headlong into the VAX again... But I'm not giving up! ;-) Laterz, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig. If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.

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Docs for WellFleet AFN model 1515

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

I don't think it's quite on-topic, but does anyone have docs for this? A WellFleet model 1515 Access Feeder Node. Looks like a modem server or something. Nortel swallowed Baystack which swallowed Wellfleet.... Nothing online for documentation. Main question is: The port marked "Console" is a DE9 *female*. No keyboard port, so I expect it's a serial port, but I've never seen a female DE9 serial. Will a gender swap work, or do I need pinout adapter? When your friends find out you collect "junk", they bring you the most amazing stuff. Doc

24 years, 3 months

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DEC PROFESSIONAL article needed

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Zane H. Healy [mailto:healyzh@aracnet.com] > This is needed as part of their work on invalidating Patent 6,185,681 > Here is the link about it from /. > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/24557.html > "A previously unknown Californian firm which has obtained a patent for > application-independent file encryption is seeking to enforce > licensing from > other companies in the security industry. " Um... Has anyone tried contacting Glenn? IIRC, he reads comp.os.vms, and maybe he kept a copy... Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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DEC Hardware design available

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> I've been looking for this book for a while- > the last few copies on ebay all went over 50$, > so Al's price isn't out of order.. it seems to > be the going rate. It is THE DEC book to have ;) Worse, it's one of the few I don't have! :^( Zane

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Bernie Klatt - you out there?

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

... or more to the point, does anyone know or have a copy of the famous (or should that be 'infamous') 8BBS software? I've been considering a bit of a BBS retrospective, and thought having an '8 running a BBS would be an interesting addition. -jim --- jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw

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Heathkit et-3100

by John.Franklin＠sita.co.za

can anyone help. I am looking for manuals, diagrams etc or any info on the Heathkit ET-3100

24 years, 3 months

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Apple 3.5" controller card

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Hello all, I recently received an Apple-branded 3.5" floppy drive controller card. After doing a bit of web research, I found out it was a "LIRON" card, and NOT a SuperDrive card. I also found out that it will only work with a specific type of 3.5" drive: the UniDisk. I don't have a UniDisk, so the next logical questions are: - Does anyone have a UniDisk 3.5" drive that they's be willing to swap/dump/sell? Yes, I did see a couple on eBay, but I'd rather avoid paying $40-$50 for one.... - If I do not find a UniDisk, would anyone want this? What would you trade for it? I have no docs, and it is the card/cable only. If I do not find a UniDisk, then it is untested, except to say that I put it in an Apple IIe, with no drive connected, and it did NOT smoke :-) Thanks! Rich B. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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QL (was: ZX-81 Question)

by zaft＠azstarnet.com

At 04:05 PM 3/25/2002 -0500, you wrote: >While it's possible that DEC BASIC was an early adopter >of incremental compilation techniques, I don't think so... >I'm pretty sure DEC BASIC is a simple interpreter. I guess >I should look at the source... If you're talking about DEC BASIC as implement on VMS, you are wrong: [Monica] $ basic hello.bas [Monica] $ link hello [Monica] $ run hello Hello, world. [Monica] $ [Monica] $ basic VAX BASIC V3.8-000 Ready It's an interpreter AND a compiler. (this is OpenVMS 7.2). GZ

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QL (was: ZX-81 Question)

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>While it's possible that DEC BASIC was an early adopter >of incremental compilation techniques, I don't think so... >I'm pretty sure DEC BASIC is a simple interpreter. I guess I don't know which platform/OS you are considering, but under OpenVMS, DEC BASIC is both a compiler and an interpreter. >I should look at the source... Not OpenVMS then ... Antonio

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QL (was: ZX-81 Question)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Douglas Quebbeman [mailto:dhquebbeman@theestopinalgroup.com] > > I hear that DEC BASIC is good, too. > > Both of the above examples are compilers, though, I think. > While it's possible that DEC BASIC was an early adopter > of incremental compilation techniques, I don't think so... > I'm pretty sure DEC BASIC is a simple interpreter. I guess > I should look at the source... Could be. Not having used DEC BASIC, myself, I'm not sure :) I am sure that Turbo Basic was a compiler. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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QL (was: ZX-81 Question)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> For a while I used Turbo Basic under MS-DOS. It was an > incredible development environment... for a BASIC ... running > under MS-DOS... Ok, so it was "passable." Still :) > > I hear that DEC BASIC is good, too. > > Both of the above examples are compilers, though, I think. While it's possible that DEC BASIC was an early adopter of incremental compilation techniques, I don't think so... I'm pretty sure DEC BASIC is a simple interpreter. I guess I should look at the source... -dq

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20" SGI/Philips FC20AS monitor

by rumi_ml＠rtfm.hu

Hello, i recently got an old (1992) 20" monitor of type SGI/Philips FC20AS. as far as i was able to find out it is probably a 64kHz fixed frequency model. does anyone have more information on this critter? maybe even a Modeline or something like that? thanks in advance! regards, Szabolcs Rumim

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Cook Race

by rochster＠hotmail.com

I'm looking for the Schematics or the pinouts to a Cook Race arcade game. I've just bought the two PCB with no information on how to connect it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time. Roch Henry Henry Amusements Ottawa, CanadaGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

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Semi-OT: PMac 6100 DOS

by Marion.Bates＠dartmouth.edu

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Unix disk images and archiving

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Hellige [mailto:jhellige@earthlink.net] > My '040 Cube is running NeXTstep 3.3 with CAPer, so if I made > images I could easily move them on to my main Mac for storage. The > distribution disks in question have NS 0.9, 1.0, 1.0a, 2.0, 2.1, and > 3.0, as well as a non-bootable disk of 3.2. They've been verified as > readable and still containing the OS (on my '040 Cube after being > locked). Due to the unknown quality of the OD in my '030 Cube I > really don't want to try and boot one on it and I'd like to get them > to another media before I lose the ability to > read them altogether. Well, after reading your post two or three times, and not finding a question in it, I'm going to try to answer anyway. :) I'll assume the questing is something like: "How on earth do I make a copies of the distribution disks onto different media?" Anyway, what I would do is to make an image, using dd, of one of the disks, and then try to put it on the external drive. See if you can boot it from there, and then read the image back from the external drive and make sure it hasn't changed. If that works, repeat the process. I would also try burning the image onto cd with cdrecord (for instance), if it's possible. That may just turn out to be another option. The added bonus here is that CDs are common as dirt. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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ZX81 and 6116

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> I guess I'm having a "senior moment" but I don't remember the 4118 at all, Excuse the typo, this should read "4116." Glen 0/0

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ZX81 and 6116

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> > > Pete, what modifications to the board are required in order to use a > 6116? > > I don't have either the service manual or my ZX81 handy, so I can't check, > but as far as I remember, just remove the 4118 and replace with a 6116. I'll check it out. > There might be a wire link to change (if so, it's obvious) but I don't > remember having to do that. There are no links on the board for different memory configurations. > It is good practice to fit a socket, though. I always do when I replace an unsocketed IC on a ZX81. > A few ZX81's had a pair of 2114's instead of the normal 4118, which were > in short supply at one time, but the same principle applies (the PCB is the > same). I read that using the 2114s saved Uncle Sir Clive 25p per unit. I've also noticed that on the earlier boards all the ICs were socketed, but the later ones were spotty, socket-wise. Typical Sinclair chintziness. Glen 0/0

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New hard drive in an Indigo2

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Doc --- Well, it does sort of apply here. It was "created" about 15 years ago... And I'm sure other lurkers would benefit from the links too... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash > ---------- > From: Doc > > Oops! That was supposed to be off-list. > > Never mind.... > > On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Doc wrote: > > > On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, David Woyciesjes wrote: > > > > > Doc - As someone who never played with RAID before, can you provide an > > > example setup, or two? > > > > David, > > I'm cleaning out my Inbox, and I couldn't remember if I saved this > > because I answered, or because I was going to.... > > Anyway, since I probably didn't, here are a couple links to clearer > > info than I can give: > > > > Quick&Dirty overview: > > http://www.uni-mainz.de/~neuffer/scsi/what_is_raid.html > > > > More detailed: > > http://www.amsstorage.com/html/raid_overview.html > > > > RAID management is more of an art than a skill-set. The number and > > range of variables is staggering. And I'm a rank amateur.... > > > > Doc

24 years, 3 months

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Symbolics 3620 screen issues

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > > console monitors are very special and very strange things. > Mono screen, > > some audio stuff in it, keyboard and mouse controller, ... and it is > > connected to the machine with a single cable. They are completely > > different from everything else on the world. > That, actually, doesn't mean a darn thing... > Consider the portrait monitor on my PERQ 2T1. It's got 3 > physical cables > back the host, which actually form 1 'logical cable' -- video > (no syncs) > : BNC, power : 3 pin DIN, everything else (syncs, > keyboard/tablet power > and signals, audio, etc) : DA15. IIRC, the NeXT mono monitors, which have everything (which I suggest in this context to mean sound, video, mouse, keyboard) connected to the monitor through a single 19 pin cable, aren't otherwise too weird at all... :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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DCA IRMA-III convertible 3270 interface

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: r. 'bear' stricklin [mailto:red@bears.org] > On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Dave McGuire wrote: > > He's still crashing on my couch...I think the whoe gulf > coast thing is > > getting to his brain. Clean air and...umm...well, spring break, > > beach, bikinis that are about this --> <-- big, you kno... ;) > So now I'm sitting here in my toner-stained pants, sucking on a bloody > knuckle, and I only want to know one thing. > Where the @*(*& did I go wrong? Well, nowhere necessarily. Bloody knuckles are part of the hobby, and I suppose toner-stains might be too. Bikinis are part of a different hobby. :) There's nothing which prevents you from taking another hobby up, you'll just have to decide how to spend your time. I have been doing less computer stuff recently, for instance, in favor of musical composition. Nothing to do with bikinis, mind you, but it could if I get famous. ;) ... on the other hand, maybe at some point in the future, computers will be considered "sexy." Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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TSX-PLUS (Was MicroPDP 11/73)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jerome H. Fine [mailto:jhfinepw4z@compsys.to] > If a couple of others all inquire (in addition to Turnbull and Davis), > I will inquire again. Well, I've never used TSX-11, but TSX-32 is interesting, and my PDP still has no useable system on it. :) ... so count me in. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Looking for 8M (4M?) 72 pin parity for old Indigo

by claudew＠videotron.ca

Hi I am looking for 72 pin true parity simms to stick in an old indigo that does seem to digest non-parity or EDO simms. Claude http://computer_collector.tripod.com

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TSX-PLUS (Was MicroPDP 11/73)

by GOOI＠oce.nl

I did also show my interest in TSX-Plus, and with this e-mail renew that interest. I have the TSX-Plus documentation for version 5 and a bit more. I scanned all of a binder of S&H that I have at 600 dpi and it is 200 Mb of TIFF files. The binder contains: - System Manager's Guide - TSX-Plus version 5.1 and 5.1C release notes - TSX-Plus version 6.0, 6.01, 6.2, 6.3 and 6.31 release notes - System Manager's Guide version 5 (14 files, total 37.4 Mb) (contents, introduction, chapters 1-9, appendix A, B and index) - Installation Guide version 5 (10 files, total 20.5 Mb) (contents, introduction, chapters 1-5, appendix A, B and index) - TSX-Plus Reference manual 5th edition, 1985 But, because of copyrights with S&H I can not offer this CD-ROM to an ftp site for download. When S&H makes TSX-Plus available, the documentation will be available. - Henk.

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ZX81 and 6116

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 23, 12:58, Dave McGuire wrote: > On March 23, Pete Turnbull wrote: > > Zilog made a "quasi-static RAM" 4K x 8, called Z8132, but it's > > 28-pin. > > I think that's the Z6132...interesting chip... Oops, typo. Yes, it's a 6132. I still have a few. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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New hard drive in an Indigo2

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Doc > > On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Christopher Smith wrote: > > > Anyway, shouldn't a decent RAID allow you to select the mode > > so that it only does striping ? > > Didn't I say "reliable"? Even RAID 0, plain striping, carries a > certain overhead in drivespace. The big problem is that with simple > striping you lose everything if you lose anything. RAID is *expensive*, > even if you get your adapter free. Drivespace overhead, tuning slices, > matching drives, power consumption, noise, etc. BIG cost is the > price of drives, for example 5x9G drives vs. 1x36G. > > <My Not-So-Humble Opinion> > A multi-channel adapter or multiple adapters, running JBOD, with > intelligent filesystem groupings, will probably boost your speed as much > as RAID will. (Assuming a single-user general-use Unix desktop.) RAID > can be tuned to big sequential reads or writes, or a lot of small r/w, > but it's damn difficult to get middle-ground or all-around performance. > </My Not-So-Humble Opinion> > > All that said, it's good practice and fun. > > Doc > Doc - As someone who never played with RAID before, can you provide an example setup, or two? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Free PDP-11/23 system *complete*, in Charlotte, NC

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Email Ron directly if interested. I'd love it, but I cant afford the shipping. 8-( Bill ----- Forwarded message from Ron Williams <rpwilliams(a)conninc.com> ----- From: "Ron Williams" <rpwilliams(a)conninc.com> To: <mrbill(a)pdp11.org> Subject: 11/23 system Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 21:47:47 -0500 do you know anyone who would be interested in PDP11/23, cards, la180 printer, rlo5 disks, etc, dual monitor cad system Design-Grafix software, rx50 diskette drives, all in a rollaround system, all rt-11 manuals, software development manuals, hardware manuals, circuit diagrams, etc, complete vt240, vt320, all in working order. (not new looking, but could be cleaned up) I would like to get rid of this stuff, and preferably not pay for shipping, as you know, this stuff is heavy. It served me well in my work, elect engineering, but as you know... Ron Williams Charlotte, NC ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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IBM 2520 card readers

by brian＠quarterbyte.com

Hey folks, there are a couple of IBM 2420 card read/punches up for auction along with two IBM 3268-2 dot matrix printers, located in Alabama. It's all in one lot, unfortunately. I'm interested in getting ONE of the card readers. Is anyone interested in the other reader and/or the printers? (Think how cool it would be to hook up to your PC running Hercules!) Reply directly if interested, Thanks, Brian =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _| _| _| Brian Knittel / Quarterbyte Systems, Inc. _| _| _| Tel: 1-510-559-7930 Fax: 1-510-525-6889 _| _| _| Email: brian(a)quarterbyte.com _| _| _| http://www.quarterbyte.com

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TSX-PLUS (Was MicroPDP 11/73)

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 20:50:18 -0500 > From: "Jerome H. Fine" <jhfinepw4z(a)compsys.to> > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: TSX-PLUS (Was MicroPDP 11/73) > Sender: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > > Jerome Fine replies: > > I DID inquire from S&H as to the possibility of a TSX-PLUS hobby > license. Basically the answer was that they were waiting to see what > Mentec would do - if anything - and in particular the ACTUAL wording > of any updated RT-11 license from Mentec. > > In any case, since there were so few inquiries for TSX-PLUS and > I was and am still so busy, I dropped the ball. But until Mentec > makes the more reasonable license available, it seems that S&H > wants to just wait and see. > > If a couple of others all inquire (in addition to Turnbull and Davis), > I will inquire again. Yes I'm still interested in TSX. I suppose I have a license for it at work, but I have more better PDP11 computers at home these days. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu

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TSX-PLUS (Was MicroPDP 11/73)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 4, ie ages ago, at 23:40, Jerome Fine wrote: > >Pete Turnbull wrote: > > >On Feb 4, 17:48, Jerome Fine wrote: > > > (a) As far as I know, there are no hobby versions, as yet, for TSX-PLUS. > > > However, if there is enough interest, perhaps we could inquire. I would > > > certainly be willing to contact S&H to see if they might be interested. > > > Since I was a sort of distributor for S&H at one point and I already have > > > my own license, I would be able to support hobby users. SO!!!! Are > > > there any potential TSX-PLUS hobby users out there who would like > > > to have this software? > > Yes! > ONE! I will inquire if the total reaches FIVE! Didn't anyone else show interest in TSX? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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DEC PROFESSIONAL article needed

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I was contacted via email by someone from PC Dynamics this morning. They're looking for a copy of an article by Glenn Everhart that appeared in the Mid-80's in an issue of the DEC Professional magazine. It deals with cryptodisk software for VMS. This is needed as part of their work on invalidating Patent 6,185,681 Here is the link about it from /. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/24557.html "A previously unknown Californian firm which has obtained a patent for application-independent file encryption is seeking to enforce licensing from other companies in the security industry. " Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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IBM 3480 bus adaptor (escon?)

by pat＠cart-server.purdueriots.com

Cool. Last I was there, they also had some ESCON cables then. If anyone's interested, I could grab them. -- Pat On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Sridhar the POWERful wrote: > > Cool. That's ESCON. If they were two thinner connectors stacked, it > would be parallel channel. > > Peace... Sridhar > > On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:49:41 -0500 (EST) > > From: pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com > > To: Sridhar the POWERful <vance(a)ikickass.org> > > Subject: Re: IBM 3480 bus adaptor (escon?) > > > > What part of the connector? The end of the 3480 connector looks the same > > except some pins seem to be 'connected' to the connector shell: > > > > _______________________________ > > |+x+x+x+xx+x+ 0 +x+xx+x+x+x+| > > .' / / '. > > | x+x+x++x+x+x O x+x+x++x+x+x | > > ----------------------------------- > > > > x's are 'non-grounded' pics, +'s are 'grounded pins', 0 is a threaded > > hole, O is a non-threaded hole, and the /s are screws > > > > Grounded means that they're sorrounded by the silvery stuff on the > > connector shell. Otherwise, they look exactly like the picture of the > > terminator i gave a URL to originally. If you want a picture still, try > > and be precise about what part of the connector needs clarifying so i have > > a good idea what to take a pic of > > > > On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Sridhar the POWERful wrote: > > > > > > > > It might be ESCON, or it might be Parallel-channel. Take a picture of > > > the connector. > > > > > > Peace... Sridhar > > > > > > On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com wrote: > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:35:53 -0500 (EST) > > > > From: pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com > > > > Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > > > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > > > Subject: IBM 3480 bus adaptor (escon?) > > > > > > > > I need some help with this one from the 'experts'. I know that this is > > > > the adaptor (one of two) from an IBM 3480 A22 controller that connected > > > > the device to its host system. I *think* that it's an ESCON adaptor, but > > > > want some verification on that. Also, does anyone have any interest in > > > > these? If not, one might make it into my 'museum', but the fate of the > > > > other is uncertain. If you have a desire for either or both of these, > > > > contact me off list. > > > > > > > > (Yeah, the 'connector' at the top of the pic is aparently the bus > > > > terminator. And no, I don't need the screw-driver handle identified, I > > > > know what that is ;^) > > > > > > > > http://cart-server.purdueriots.com/escon_adaptor_and_terminator.jpg > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > -- Pat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Goodwill Museum

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Is the museum still open? I tried their web site and got nothing? I hope to be going to Austin soon and wanted to stop by and see it up close. Thanks

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FA: PDP11 Qbus cards CPU and Memory

by fernande＠internet1.net

Hello, I'm selling some extra Qbus cards on Ebay. I know some of you here don't really like Ebay, but hopefully it'll allow me to recoup some money that I've spent unwisely on various computers/parts. Parts that I've never used, weren't what I though they were, etc. For those of you that do use Ebay, please check my auction out. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2012307302 -- Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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software UART

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> > If you don't mind listings provided as GIF files, here's one URL > http://www.avocetsystems.com/company/articles/magazine/auart.htm Thanks, Dick -- very interesting. Glen 0/0

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Oops (was Re: ZX81 and 6116)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> > That's certainly a horse of a different color. So the objective was to > replace a set of 4116's with a single 6116? That would reduce the available > RAM from 16KB to 2KB. Is that what you wanted? I've *got* to stop answering mail in the dead of night . . . For the record: ZX81s shipped with either a pair of 2114s (1K x 4) or a single 4118 (1K x 8) -- NOT 4116. The schematic states that the PCB would also accept a single 4816 (2K x 8). The TS1000s I have at hand contain a single 2016 (2K x 8). My apologies for the errors. Glen 0/0

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IBM 3480 bus adaptor (escon?)

by pat＠cart-server.purdueriots.com

I need some help with this one from the 'experts'. I know that this is the adaptor (one of two) from an IBM 3480 A22 controller that connected the device to its host system. I *think* that it's an ESCON adaptor, but want some verification on that. Also, does anyone have any interest in these? If not, one might make it into my 'museum', but the fate of the other is uncertain. If you have a desire for either or both of these, contact me off list. (Yeah, the 'connector' at the top of the pic is aparently the bus terminator. And no, I don't need the screw-driver handle identified, I know what that is ;^) http://cart-server.purdueriots.com/escon_adaptor_and_terminator.jpg Thanks! -- Pat

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Apple's A/UX

by mythtech＠mac.com

>It *used* to be on a site in Germany which now seems to be down for the >count. Someone on comp.unix.aux is building a new archive which may shortly >be available; watch that newsgroup. I'll keep an eye on that group... thanks -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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ZX81 software serial port (was Re: ZX81 I/O ports)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Stan Barr <stanb(a)dial.pipex.com> > Hmm...I did my ZX81 serial port in software! It was only used to > transfer data to the host computer, so it was pretty simple... Stan, I would really appreciate it if you would share this solution with me, assuming you still have the code. Thanks, Glen 0/0

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NetPower PeeCee with MIPs R4400 CPU ????

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Is anyone familar with these? I have the MB and cards for one. I also have Windows NT 3.5 and has Visual C++ for it. Joe

24 years, 3 months

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Recent Road Trip pics of stuff avalable PDX

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 24, Robert Schaefer wrote: > I believe that may be a SUN-3/180, as the 280 is a rackmount box. Take a > look at > http://www.obsolyte.com/sunPICS/3_280/ to see one. In fact, that may even For the most part, Sun was relatively consistent about their numbering schemes. Here's how they work: For model names of the form "Sun-X/YZ0": X = architecture...2, 3 or 4, 2=68010, 3=68020 or 68030; 4=SPARC Y = processor...1, 2, or 4 for Sun-3; 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 for SPARC Z = VME chassis type...1 or 4 for 3-slot; 5 for 6-slot, 6 for 12-slot deskside, 7 for newer purple 12-slot deskside, 8 for 12-slot rackmount, 9 for newer 16-slot rackmount There are some departures from this numbering scheme (3/110 for example) but it is mostly consistent. Not all combinations were sold by Sun, but most could be built. With the exception of the Sun-2 VME P2 bussing, the VME buses are compatible between all processor and chassis types. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Watch those lateral G's man, St. Petersburg, FL I've got sandwiches in my lap!" -Sridhar

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