Hi,
The boards I have are:
assy pn40827-05 rev-6 (has 3 82s181 proms on top edge)
assy 40505 rev-C (has crystal and berg connector on top)
Building a cpu is anything but practical... why should modding
this? ;)
Allison
-----Original Message-----
From: Loboyko Steve <sloboyko(a)yahoo.com>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:47 AM
Subject: Re: Core Memory Interfacing?
>
>I have the Xerox Hytype II service manual with
>schematics of the infamous Logic I and II boards,
>several versions. Let me know the Board #'s and etch
>and if I got 'em, I can scan them. I used to repair
>these printers (mostly at a board level) in a previous
>life.
>
>I don't know if making them into your own CPU would be
>practical but there sure is a lot to learn on these
>two boards...even now.
>
>--- "Peter C. Wallace" <pcw(a)mesanet.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, ajp166 wrote:
>>
>> > From: Peter C. Wallace <pcw(a)mesanet.com>
>> > >
>> > >Hytype IIs also use a 8 bit TTL based microcoded
>> machine (IICRC they use
>> > >74LS283 adders, 74LS170 register file chips,
>> along with bipolar
>> > PROMS)...
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > I have a few of those boards... Wich I had the
>> correct prints for the
>> > board numbers
>> > I do have. Could be fun to bend them into a
>> general purpose 8bitter.
>> >
>> > Allison
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I remember playing with that idea many many years
>> ago. I dont think it has
>> much of an address range though...
>>
>>
>>
>> Peter Wallace
>>
>
>
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From: Hans Franke <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de>
>
>> Is a good thing. The extensions are very fine.
>
>Gaby is very determinated wehn it comes to CP/M.
>Girls ... :)
We can't do math but we seem to gravitate to CP/M. ;)
It's still a favorite as it does have a decent filesystem
and is fully understandable without reading source
code.
Allison
From: Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)aracnet.com>
>
>I've already become convinced the only practical way to preserve it is onto
>live filesystems that are regularly backed up.
I do that. Further I usually use a SET or drives if they are the fixed
media
as then if one fails the other unpowered twin is valid. SCSI RZ2x and 5x
drives are handy for that though I also use RD52s, and ST225s.
Allison
From: Chad Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net>
>I've read about bolt types on Brit bikes a bit. It seems that they had
>a variety of things they called Whitworth.
>
>Chad Fernandez
>Merle K. Peirce wrote:
>> That's because you had the wrong wrenches. I've always wanted to have
>> someone ask me for a half-inch wrench and hand him a Whitworth
>> half-inch. I think there's a set in the Rover.
Whitworth were decimal inch sizes. I have a set from about 30 years back
along with metric and fractional inch sizes. What I dont have is a pair of
vise grips, feh!
Allison
I have a PS/2 - E. It's a little tiny 80387(?) with a 387 math
coprocessor. Four PCMCIA slots, and a floppy drive. Integrated
video, parallel and serial. 1.4M floppy, and unknown(right now)
hard drive.
Does anyone know anything about it?
What can I do with it? Will OS/2 work? What interface does the
hard drive use, BTW? What are my chances of getting BSD or linux
to drive the PCMCIA slots? Anything else I should know about this
one?
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
Does anyone have any docs on the Harris 24 bit line (or
the Datacraft 6024?) Considering there are still H-series
machines in use, I've not been able to turn up much at
all on them.
On April 4, Tony Duell wrote:
> > I can stuff it in my front side pocket with reflector end sticking
> > out. Doesn't feel uncomfortable.
>
> Do you guys have small pockets or something? I've carried things a lot
> larger than a 2*AA maglite in my pocket.
Is that a maglite in your pocket, or...
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "I thought it would go quickly,
St. Petersburg, FL that rubberized bottom..." -Sridhar
> From: Chris
> ....
> F-ing scary!
>
> Remember, this is the country that awarded 3 million dollars to a lady
> because she put her hot coffee in her lap, and then spilled it... and was
> able to sue McDonalds because the coffee was too hot and it burned her
> (yes, there is more to that story, but the fact that she was even able to
> get to trial is just f-ed up... where is the personal responsibility in
> this country?!?)
>
> -chris
>
<rant>
Amen brother! C'mon who, in their right mind, would put a _paper_
cup full of hot coffee between their legs while in a car! That chick has to
some kind of moron!
Are people afraid of taking responsibility for their actions? Geez,
they only claim it when it's for their benefit, or when the result is good.
Otherwise, it's the other guy's fault...
</rant>
Sorry about that. Had to get it off my chest...
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On April 4, Chad Fernandez wrote:
> >>They _are_ incredible. And since we're on the "Stupid Laws and
> >>Legislators" kick this week, here's another one. I can't verify it,
> >>though. One of Austin's City Councilmen wanted to draft an
> >>ordinance against carrying the LED flashlights, as they could
> >>be used as a "stunner" in robberies, rapes, etc. The word I got,
> >>from a stenographer, was that he was temporarily blinded by one.
> >>The one he had in his own hand, that is. He was looking at it in
> >>the store, pointed it at his face, and, yes, you guessed it,
> >>pushed the button. What a maroon. These are the dolts who get
> >>to decide what I can and cannot do.
>
> What's an LED flashlight? Do you mean one of thelaser pointers?
No, an LED flashlight. ;) See http://www.photonlight.com.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "I thought it would go quickly,
St. Petersburg, FL that rubberized bottom..." -Sridhar
> > While we're on flashlights I really should rave again
> > for white LED ones. My favorite can cast a 150
> > degree solid pyramid of pure white light, absent of
> > any filament artifacts, for 10 hours off one 9v battery.
> > If you turn it down 1 notch, you get 100 hours life.
> > These things are incredible.
>
> They _are_ incredible. And since we're on the "Stupid Laws and
> Legislators" kick this week, here's another one. I can't verify it,
> though. One of Austin's City Councilmen wanted to draft an
> ordinance against carrying the LED flashlights, as they could
> be used as a "stunner" in robberies, rapes, etc. The word I got,
> from a stenographer, was that he was temporarily blinded by one.
> The one he had in his own hand, that is. He was looking at it in
> the store, pointed it at his face, and, yes, you guessed it,
> pushed the button. What a maroon. These are the dolts who get
> to decide what I can and cannot do.
An officeholder elected by your neighbors...
The tyranny of kings is nothing compared to the
tyranny of the majority...
-Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"]
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"The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits
On April 4, John Allain wrote:
> While we're on flashlights I really should rave again
> for white LED ones. My favorite can cast a 150
> degree solid pyramid of pure white light, absent of
> any filament artifacts, for 10 hours off one 9v battery.
> If you turn it down 1 notch, you get 100 hours life.
> These things are incredible.
I second this. I now use them exclusively, while my trusty Maglite
sits in a drawer. I use Photon lights, http://www.photon.com, and I
like them a *lot*. If you like to use flashlights to peer into
machines and such, and like the idea of having a tiny but astoundingly
bright one to carry with you everywhere along with your wallet or
house keys, this is the way to go.
(not an employee, just a satisfied customer, yadda yadda)
-Dave
--
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St. Petersburg, FL that rubberized bottom..." -Sridhar
AMISH VIRUS:
Thou have just received the Amish Virus.
Since we do not have electricity nor computers,
thou art on the honor system. Please delete all
of thine files.
Thank thee.
Right off, let me say that I know next to nothing about the realities of
using core memory. I only know that it looks like pretty cool stuff to
play with. Would I be completely off my tree to try to build a core
memory interface from scratch, assuming I had a pre-strung core frame with
all the cores and wires intact? When I say "interface", I mean basically
something that will let me talk to the core from a PC or from my
recently-completed Mark-8 using TTL or CMOS levels. If I have a 64x64
frame, would I just need something on the order of 256 driver transistors
(one to drive each of the X and Y wires in either direction) plus some
kind of op-amp or comparator circuit to monitor the sense wire (is there
just one of these per frame?) and determine whether or not a bit has
flipped during a read pulse? Or are there all sorts of ghosts and goblins
lurking in core memory that I don't want to confront?
> I really need a copy of the manual for a Data Systems Design DSD-440
I scanned it yesterday. It should be up at www.spies.com/aek/pdf/dsd
later today.
I'm interested in finding other DSD product manuals to add to the
archive, also. I should have the Multibus disc/tape manual somewhere.
> From: Douglas H. Quebbeman
>
> > At 07:19 PM 4/3/02 +0000, you wrote:
> > >Yes, I did know there's second bi-pin bulb held in place of red
> > >holder in Maglite's end cap hidden under that spring.
> > >Cheers,
> > >Wizard
> >
> > Hmmm; I'm another magliter, especially the solitaire (1AAA) model.
> > They're great for looking in dark, recessed spots in old computers :-).
>
> I got my Solitaire free by answering a survey from ADP back when I
> was self-employed. I explained I didn't have a staff, but the caller said
> that didn't mind.
>
> I find the bulbs only lose lifespan when you drop the flashlight a
> time or two.. they simply aren't shock-resistant.
>
> -dq
>
>
- Well, I keep a 2 AA size Maglite in each of my two toolboxes, and a
3 D cel Mag under the front seat of my truck. It does pretty good for some
hammer type work...
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One more reason to stick to classic hardware/software:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/732958.asp?0dm=C18MT&cp1=1#BODY
"A California company has quietly attached its software to millions of
downloads of the popular Kazaa file-trading program and plans to remotely
turn on people's PCs, welding them into a new network of its own."
> I'm just crazy enough! And if that doesn't scare you... I'll
> beat you with this airline pillow!
"Nooooooooooobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our
chief weapons are fear, torture, and a ruthless and
fanatical devotion to the Pope...
And now.... bring out, the cushy airline pillow!"
ROFL!
-Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"]
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"The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits
I got a phone call early this morning from one Harry Landis, a surplus
dealer in Foxboro, MA, who knows I like old computers. He has eight
boards from a Harris Model 8 CPU, said to be used in their 60, 600 and
700 systems, including the two board CPU. He wanted to know if I wanted
them. I said no, but that I'd check around - hence this e-mail. I've
not seen the boards and do not know their condition, nor do I know what
Harry wants for them (and, no, I'm not financially involved in this in
any way), but if anyone's interested give Harry a call at 508-285-7568.
>While we're on flashlights I really should rave again
>for white LED ones. My favorite can cast a 150
>degree solid pyramid of pure white light, absent of
>any filament artifacts, for 10 hours off one 9v battery.
>If you turn it down 1 notch, you get 100 hours life.
>These things are incredible.
I have one of those squeeze model LED ones clipped to my keys. Works
nicely for temp lighting (the squeeze and hold activation makes it a bit
hard to use for long term lighting).
It was marketed as a "white LED", but it definitely casts a blue tint in
my opinion. Not enough to off set colors to an indistinguishable point,
but enough to tell that it looks blue.
I use the thing all the time when glancing for wires in a dropped
ceiling, or when looking into the dark corners in or behind a computer
case (just to bring it on topic).
Overall, not bad for a $3 item (actually, I got it free as a gift, but
have seen it sold for $3)
-chris
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> > Some of those I copied to Tim! I was useing them back when
> > to build mine, from the emergence of V2.2 on.
>
> > >http://www.retroarchive.org/cpm/archive/unofficial/
>
> > Da place!
>
> Isn't
>
> http://www.gaby.de/cpm/index.html
>
> more like the official unofficial web site ?
A couple of years ago, I put some finishing touches on a
project I began back in 1988, when I got a copy of the
DRI PL/I-86 compiler. Back then, it wasn't the freeware
that it is today. But of course, today, you can download
it from either of the two sites above.
My goal was to modify it so that it one could use the
Microsoft linker and librarian instead of the DRI linker
and librarian; with this change it would be possible to
mix object modules from other Microsoft-compatible
compilers. Also, I wanted to revise and extend the
runtime system. I completed most everything except
providing access to DOS environment variables. But
the DATE() and TIME() BIFs work as they should, and
you can pass the command line arguments by defining
them as arguments to main() much as in C.
DRI and Microsoft both used the Intel OMF format for the
object files, so it wasn't hard. But like many projects,
it just got stalled for along time.
I recently packaged it up and forwarded it to Peter Flass,
noted PL/I advocate who's omnipresent on comp.lang.pli.
He's going to include it in some archive, but didn't mention
which. You may or may not end up seeing at the two above
sites.
But if anyone out there is interested in it, you can
also obtain it directly from me.
Regards,
-dq
-Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"]
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"The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits
On Feb 26, 8:50, Sellam Ismail wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Paul R. Santa-Maria wrote:
>
> > I have received a box of old Apple II disks including a bunch of
13-sector
> > disks. It would be quicker if I could directly boot these disks
instead
> > of using BOOT13 or the Basics disk. Does anyone here still have the
> > 13-sector boot PROMs for the Disk II controller card? These are small
> > 256-byte PROMs; can anyone here burn them if I cannot find originals?
>
> I've been searching for years and I don't think I've ever even seen a
> 13-sector disk controller. Just about everybody updated their old
> 13-sector boot controller when the 16-sector version came out.
>
> I think I may actually have the 13-sector boot PROMs but where they are I
> wouldn't know.
>
> Here's an idea: boot trace the BOOT13 disk and grab the code from it.
> It's most likely just the old 13-sector disk controller PROM code.
> Alternatively, if you have a copy of the original Apple disk/DOS manual
> you'll find the 13-sector PROM code there. Take this code and burn it
> into a PROM and swap it with the correct PROM on the 16-sector controller
> and it should work.
As Sellam implies, it's only the boot PROM (P5) you need to change, not the
state machine PROM (P6). I have a card somewhere with BOTH sets, switch
selectable, but I haven't seen it for a while.
The oher way to use the 13-sector disks is to make converted copies with
MUFFIN.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
> From: Hans Franke <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de>
> So it looks as if ZX 81s are a good source to get 2016s ?
Arrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhh!
Would you really trash a ZX81 to get a US$2.00 part which is commonly
available???
If you decide to go through with such a plan, will you please save the
leftover ZX81 parts? Certain parts of these things are becoming very hard
to find. I'll pay the freight if you send them to me! If you don't want
to send them out of Germany please give them to deserving ZX-TEAM members
near you!
Glen
0/0
> I started working for Science Dynamics in 1972. The company had been around
> for about five years when I joined. After I left in 81 the company was
> bought by McDonald Douglas (I think). McDonald Douglas had it for a while
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Unless this is a new food franchise in airports,
I think you mean McDonnell-Douglas...
;)
-Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"]
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne M. Smith [mailto:wmsmith@earthlink.net]
> > > that enable others to engage in mass distribution.
> Doesn't it make as much sense to go after those involved in "mass
> distribution"
> > > of the circumvention device, such as DeCSS?
> > Owning the equipment to comit a crime (especially if that
> equipment has
> > legitimate uses) is not (or at least should not) be equivalent to
> > comitting that crime.
> I don't diagree with you, but read again what I said --
> "distribution" not "ownership."
To punish someone for distributing equipment which could be used to
commit a crime is just as ludicrous. It does not matter whether the
alleged crime involves a computer or not. You don't punish people
for selling rat poison, kitchen utensils, notebook paper, or
photocopiers, do you?
What about panty-hose and ski-masks -- I hear those are used in crime
a lot! :) When will we have the digital millennium hosiery act?
It would be absolutely idiotic to punish someone for distributing
software which _might_ be used to illegally copy things to some other
media.
You may as well put Fred in jail for Xenocopy, in fact ;)
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
> At 07:19 PM 4/3/02 +0000, you wrote:
> >Yes, I did know there's second bi-pin bulb held in place of red
> >holder in Maglite's end cap hidden under that spring.
> >Cheers,
> >Wizard
>
> Hmmm; I'm another magliter, especially the solitaire (1AAA) model.
> They're great for looking in dark, recessed spots in old computers :-).
I got my Solitaire free by answering a survey from ADP back when I
was self-employed. I explained I didn't have a staff, but the caller said
that didn't mind.
I find the bulbs only lose lifespan when you drop the flashlight a
time or two.. they simply aren't shock-resistant.
-dq
-Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"]
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"The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits
> Ethan Dicks wrote:
>
> > > DOWN WITH FRED! EVIL PURVEYOR OF ILLEGAL TOOLS OF CRIME!!! FIE! FIE!
> >
> > Fire up the molten iron vats!
>
> Hmm Tar and Feathers must have gone out of style. :)
And it's pretty hard to run someone out of town on a rail when
hardly anyone knows how to make s split-rail fence anymore...
...and Grampa forgot to show me... <sniff!>
-dq
-Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"]
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"The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits
>But does OpenVMS/vax support USB?
No but since you're doing a PCI driver,
a USB driver should be a breeze.
Having a Qbus framebuffer and a USB
keyboard and mouse would be fun :-)
Now that I look I don't see any PCI widgets
for the VAX 7000/10000 or the DEC 7000/10000.
So I think PCI and TRUBOchannel are pipe-dreams.
Pity, they would have been the easiest ways to
get a framebuffer.
Now if you get a TurboLaser (AlphaServer 8200/8400)
they *do* have PCI expansion available, so you could
do PCI graphics there. Possibly even multiple
graphics heads :-)
Antonio
>On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Don Caprio wrote:
>
>> Any ex employee's of Science Dynamics (Torrance, Ca) out there? Jeff, Neil,
>> Ralph, Dave, and Less are you there?
>
>I know of a Science Dynamics in New Jersey that does inmate telephone
>systems. Is this a genuine coincidence or is it possibly the same
>company?
>
>http://www.scidyn.com/
I started working for Science Dynamics in 1972. The company had been around
for about five years when I joined. After I left in 81 the company was
bought by McDonald Douglas (I think). McDonald Douglas had it for a while
ran it into the ground and then it was repurchased by the Ex-CEO. Don't
know what happened to it after that.
> Science Dynamics Corporation (SciDyn) has been developing and delivering
> technologically advanced telecommunication solutions for years. The name
> SciDyn may be new to you, but weve been in business now for 25 years. Our
> solutions are installed in 18 countries around the world and currently
> process more than 250 million minutes per month.
I'm sure the common names are just a coincidence.
> > On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Doc wrote:
> > > > You may as well put Fred in jail for Xenocopy, in fact ;)
> > > They probably will, very soon. :(
> >
> > Did John Draper write "Easy Writer" WHILE he was in jail?
>
> Now, that's the story he told me ... or well, at least
> what my memory tells me he said. I'm geting old.
Here's an early reference, from the comments of the source code
to FIG-FORTH 1.1 dated 17-September-1979, one year after I met
him on exit from Harrisville:
; APPLE FORTH BY CapN' SOFTWARE $40.00
; EASYWRITER (word processor for APPLE
; by CapN' SOFTWARE) $100.00
So it appears it was an Apple II package before it was an IBM package.
-dq
-Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"]
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"The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits
At 12:23 PM 2/04/2002 -0600, Christopher Smith wrote:
>A VAX-11/780 (...but what would I run on it? It would have to be
>RSTS/E, since VMS 1.0 hadn't been released, probably.)
I thought that VMS was ready and shipped with all VAX-11/780s. We ran VMS
on the VAX that was shipped to La Trobe University in either late 1979 or
very early 1980. From dim memory, it was running V1.5.
Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)kerberos.davies.net.au
| "If God had wanted soccer played in the
| air, the sky would be painted green"
As someone that runs a P166 on an ASUS board in a higher end case
that can hold and run 3 RX56s{5.25" full height} and not melt, I would
say better gives better. FYI: it's a 24/7 box that I rely on to work and
it does quite well with NT4.
Good PCs can be built but, you do have to work at it.
Allison
I've got a pair of them sitting here, looking for a home. They seem to
power up, but don't display anything. Just looking for enough to buy me
a lunch + shipping.
Also have for dispersal:
StorageTek 2920 9-track PERTEC interface tape drive, might need a new
head, otherwise completely functional. $5 + shipping -- It's 150lbs and
rackmount - about 24"Hx18"Wx12"D If no one wants it, it'll end up as
scrap. UPS/FedEx/USPS won't ship this I'm sure.
Mac Quadra 610, Mac IIci, Quadra 700. $10ea OBO.
Apple //e. One has Disk ][ interface + 1 drive + 64k RAM expansion card,
one has Duodisk interface and drive. I'm willing to give out as much of
these as wanted. $5 each, what I paid for it, + shipping.
Thanks for supporting your local poor college student.
-- Pat
>I made a quick mirror of it a couple of years ago when it looked like it
>might vanish. Since Gaby is doing such a good job, I necer saw fit to
>keep the mirror at retroarchive.org updated.
Tim was kind enough at that time to send me his master for that site
on Cdrom... faster than DSL. ;)
Gaby is doing a great job.
Allison
Hello Listers,
Awhile back I scrapped/recycled/trashed an R400X DSSI expansion chassis.
Between the steel back cover a back of the backplane, I found a
plastic sheet, part number 7438980-01 rev. c01g?r0?
The question marks follow guesses on smeared digits....
My question is this:
Could this succesfully be used as an anti-static work surface? It
doesn't seem to attract lint like I would expect, which makes me wonder.
Maybe it was simply to protect the backplane from shorting? Would I
be better off using a sheet of cardboard? It would be nice to have
something to lay cards on while sorting/re-assembling/etc.
Chad Fernandez
Michigan, USA
>(greedy self interest note: anybody know how I can keep a
> copy of the MR trailer on my PC for repeated viewing?)
Rumor has it (haven't gotten around to trying, as most trailers suck
anyway), if it is streamed with QuickTime, and you have the QuickTime 4.0
or earlier player, you can bypass their anti-save ability.
Also, I know a number of the non savable streams become saveable in
QuickTime 5.0 IF it is registered as a Pro version.
Humm... better send Apple's QT team to jail, sounds like they are
releasing software that can bypass copy protection. :-)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>
> > PCB boards, cheap dykes of various sizes. I used to have
> ^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> This one was just *too* good to let go past :-)
As you might expect, this requires a lot of social engineering...
;)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douglas H. Quebbeman" <dquebbeman(a)acm.org>
Date: Thursday, April 4, 2002 10:25 am
Subject: Re: Shoddy Hardware (Was: Re: WW fixtures (was Re: "New" PDP-
8))
> PCB boards, cheap dykes of various sizes. I used to have
^^^^^^^^^^^
This one was just *too* good to let go past :-)
cheers!
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The MPE news group is quite active. A lot of helpful people participate in
that group. The OS documentation is available at docs.hp.com . Hardware
related info is harder to come by.
Good luck,
SteveRob
>From: Frank McConnell <fmc(a)reanimators.org>
>Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
>To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
>Subject: Re: Anyone know where I can find a FAQ...
>Date: 03 Apr 2002 16:08:35 -0800
>
>Sridhar the POWERful <vance(a)ikickass.org> wrote:
> > ...for MPE/iX?
>
>http://www.3k.com/faq/hpfaqi.html
>
>The HP3000-L mailing list (gatewayed to newsgroup comp.sys.hp.mpe) is
>a good place to ask HP3000-related questions.
>
>-Frank McConnell
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> > Tony,
> > As hard as it may be to envision, I bet _most_ of the subscribers to
> > this list do not own tap & die sets. Many probably own only one hammer,
>
> People here don't have soldering irons, they don't have tap and die sets.
> What the heck do they use to repair computers (;-) in case you're
wondering).
Once upon a time, when I worked as a programmer for an
hourly wage, with time-and-half for overtime, and lived
rent-free, I was able to acquire a reasonable set of
tools, but most of them were for the other hobby, working
on my Audi's.
But I do have a logic probe, a RatShack-labeled Ungar iron,
heating elements up to 43 watts (glows red!), and lots of
TTL parts, etc. No scope, no analyzer, nothing esoteric.
But a breadboard, a manual wirewrap tool, a few spools
of wirewrap, protoboards, some material for making cheap
PCB boards, cheap dykes of various sizes. I used to have
heat sinks, IC pullers, two rechargeable Wahl irons (well,
I still have one).
But now I mostly have a salary that grows 1% behind the
rate of inflation and a mortgage that consumes most of
the cash, with food coming in second.
So, debugging hardware ofen involves totems, incense, etc.
Or lots and lots of "remove and replace"...
;)
Sridhar the POWERful <vance(a)ikickass.org> wrote:
> ...for MPE/iX?
http://www.3k.com/faq/hpfaqi.html
The HP3000-L mailing list (gatewayed to newsgroup comp.sys.hp.mpe) is
a good place to ask HP3000-related questions.
-Frank McConnell
From: Douglas H. Quebbeman <dquebbeman(a)acm.org>
>The Hazeltine 2000 is a 1972-era computer terminal. It used core
>memory, but did not have a microprocesor, and therefore, no
>software.
>
>So at least the Hazeltine did it in hardware.
As did the VT52 and a slew of others.
>When you'd turn it back on, it usually lost some bits, but you
>would always bring up the last screen that had been displayed,
>if someone didn't explicitly clear it. Not the kind of terminal
>to use in secure installtions...
Later ones had a power on circuit to effectively punch the clear button.
Allison
I really need a copy of the manual for a Data Systems Design
DSD-440. If I knew what I was doing I would just ask for the
switch and jumper settings, but that's not the case. I would
like to get a copy of the entire manual.
If someone has the manual scanned already, I can take 2MB email
attachments.
--Doug
=========================================
Doug Coward
@ home in Poulsbo, WA
Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center
http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/analog
Analogrechner, calculateur analogique,
calcolatore analogico, analoogrekenaar,
komputer analogowy, analog bilgisayar,
kampiutere ghiyasi, analoge computer.
=========================================
> PS: Oh, Your dept who bought up that 25 dells made serious
> *mistake*. Only way dept can depend on them running w/ replacement
> parts is dell's especially their power supplies and few oddball
> boards. PSUs are totally non-standard pinouts. Oh, your dept also
> didn't choose AMD and let dell know everybody else wanted
> quality but flexible choices in different brands of CPUs instead
> of Intel-only.
Oh, I pitched MicronPC, but no one here has ever heard of them...
But anyway, it's irrelevant. Every machine will be obsolete in
three years, and every machine has a three-year next-day-
response service contract. When the three years is up, we
buy new ones and give the old ones to employees.
Oh, and the only thing we've ever had go bad in Dells:
* company president drops laptop and kills it
* construction administrator packs one in overhead
storage on plane and crushes screen
* Western Digital Hard Drive failed in a new Dimension
* Sony tape library jammed and replaced with another Sony
* Seagate SCSI drive in PowerEdge Server RAID 5 array *will* fail
* user killed mouse and lied, Dell replaced anyway
* sysadmin ordered white keyboard for black computer,
asked for swap, Dell sent back keyboard free
And while Micron's would be nice, I'll do *anything* to
avoid buying Hewcom Pacqward...
-dq
-Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"]
Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply
"The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits
> -> I assume everyone knows what casting flash is... these screws
> -> have casting flash...
>
> Look closely. It is not casting flash. Screws aren't cast.
> As mentioned in an earlier post, the heads and threads are
> made by pressing (deformation) of a rod.
>
> When the form dies wear, are improperly secured, or are misaligned,
> the result is "extruded squish", not "casting flash".
<insert Ewok worship sound emoticon here>
I stand corrected.
-dq
-Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"]
Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply
"The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits
On April 2, Christopher Smith wrote:
> > What wonderful machines these are. The first ones, though, shipped
> > with 10MB drives, not 40MB, and it was SYSVR2, not 3.
>
> I don't doubt the 10M disk, but I've never seen anything below 3.0 for it.
>
> I have 3.5 on mine, with a 3.0 dev kit.
That's not the UNIX SysV "release" number, that's the UnixPC 7300 OS
version number...like Solaris2.x is SysVR4, but there's version 2.7,
2.8, 2.9, etc. The UnixPC 7300/3B1 OS base is definitely SysVR2.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "I thought it would go quickly,
St. Petersburg, FL that rubberized bottom..." -Sridhar
More US Government running amok!
Joe
>Subject: Adios, Internet Radio
>
>
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>Delivering breaking news, as well as analysis and
>commentary, from eWEEK.com
>
>April 3, 2002 // Volume 2, Issue 41
>
>=========================================================
>In This Edition
>=========================================================
>--OUR TAKE
>Adios, Internet Radio
>
>=========================================================
>Our Take
>=========================================================
>ADIOS, INTERNET RADIO
>
>-- By Chris Gonsalves --
>
>I'm a fan of Stardog, personally. Maybe you like CelticGrove
>or BlueCityJazz. Doesn't matter. In a few weeks, listening
>to music on Internet radio will be dead as a mackerel.
>
>Shame really. The Internet radio business has been growing
>at something like 100 percent annually and is thriving in
>genres underrepresented on FM stations, such as classical,
>blues, jazz and gospel. Doesn't matter. The government,
>acting once again in the special interest of the music
>industry, is about to crush the idea.
>
>In the latest example of groundless regulation and greed
>interfering with free commerce, the U.S. Copyright Office is
>considering a proposal that would force Internet radio
>stations to pay exorbitant royalties to record companies and
>performers, something their over-the-air counterparts are
>not required to do.
>
>Where AM and FM radio stations pay a small fee to music
>composers, Internet radio stations are facing fees of up to
>14 cents per listener per song. That fee would bankrupt
>nearly all of the Web broadcasters operating today,
>according to the group saveinternetradio.org.
>
>Copyright officials have until May 21 to make the call, but
>considering that the recommended shakedown came from the
>advisory group they created--the Copyright Arbitration
>Royalty Panel (CARP for short)--it's clear the rubber stamp
>is warmed up and waiting.
>
>How did we get to this point? Even if you thought Napster
>and others of their ilk were the bad guys, how did Internet
>radio become to the target of the Harry Fox crowd? It began
>in October 1998, when Congress passed the "Digital
>Millennium Copyright Act" (DMCA), which gave record
>companies the green light to collect royalties when music
>was played via "digital media" such as Internet radio.
>
>It's an interesting departure from a music industry
>standpoint. Record companies and performers don't get
>royalties from AM and FM radio play because the copyright
>folks consider the promotional value of the airplay payment
>enough. So why the switch for the Internet? The theory
>bought by Congress is that Internet listeners can make
>"perfect copies" of the songs being streamed, and those
>copies could hurt CD sales. That would be a good argument,
>except that, as anyone who listens to Internet Radio knows,
>you can't make "perfect copies." You can't easily make
>copies at all. And if you can, they are of too low a sound
>quality to be useful in creating your own CDs. What you get
>sounds pretty much like those cassette tapes you used to
>make off the FM radio. Not great.
>
>Never ones to let facts stand in their way, the solons
>assigned to the CARP published their recommended royalty
>schedule in late February. As the basis for the outrageous
>fee schedule, the CARP report cites a $5 billion deal
>between Yahoo! and Broadcast.com. The result was a figure
>that would leave most Internet broadcasters, who have
>attracted precious little advertising, liable for between
>200 and 300 percent of their gross revenues. And, oh, by the
>way, the fees are retroactive to October 1998. According to
>Internet radio industry figures, a midsize independent
>Webcaster with an average audience of 1,000 would owe
>$525,600.
>
>See you later Stardog. It was nice knowing you.
>
>To e-mail eWEEK Deputy News Editor Chris Gonsalves,
>click here:
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From: Loboyko Steve <sloboyko(a)yahoo.com>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
>been mentioned before. Without those, its a heck of a
>lot of discretes, and there's no way around it. Too
There are pther parts out there.
>a wall. I also suspect that because of all of the
>unknowns involved regarding the magnetic properties of
>the core that you use, the way to go about it is to
If you read the article ALL of those parameters are can be
tested and defined, before building the whole core plane.
>of core is that there are thermistors involved also,
>and that core had a very narrow range of temperature
>operation. There were even programs designed
>specifically to cause "hot spots" in the core in order
>to test it (you'd have to know the physical layout of
>the core to pull this trick off).
Actually when doing that you'd also vary the slice level or
the power supply levels to see where the edges are.
FYI: I checks my notes and a 64x64 array needs 65
drivers and something like 192 diodes to drive the select lines.
Allison