since about 1 or 2 weeks classiccmp seems to silently discard my
postings without any error. What's wrong? Am I the only one who
has that problem?
thanks
-Gunther
--
Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org
Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care
Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine
tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org
4.7 should be doable, 5.x not likely. The biggest problem with
MV-1s I've seen is it's hard to get enough memory in them.
I'd say for 5.0 4mb is really running too close to the bone.
Allison
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Sunday, April 14, 2002 2:16 AM
Subject: MicroVAX-I VMS support?
>
> Can anyone tell me the latest release of VMS that will run on a
>MicroVAX-I? The last one I ran had 4.5 on it, but I'd like to run at
>least 4.7 or 5.x.
>
> Thanks,
> -Dave
>
>--
>Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!"
>St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill
>
I put this circa-1991 item on eBay, it looks like
it's going to end at less than $10.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1345799733
I'm auctioning a batch of other computer-related items,
but this was the most classic or obscure.
- John
Canon FV-540 Still Video Floppy Disk Drive
This was used with the Canon RC-540 Still Video Camera,
an early digital camera dating back to
1991. It was part of Canon's Professional Still Video
Imaging Kit, a $4900 package.
It stored images to a 2" inch floppy disk, and you'd
move those floppies to this SCSI device to view
thumbnails and retrieve images using Canon's SV-Scan
software or other packages. Each could
store up to 50 images at low resolution (72 DPI) or
up to 32 images at high resolution (150 DPI).
I will include a Zip file (Wfvscan2.zip) containing
Windows FV-Scan software, which requires a Corel
or Trantor SCSI card interface. I haven't tested it.
I think there was Mac and even Next software
available for this unit. Perhaps you can find it
on the net.
The box has S-Video in, and composite in and out,
and two SCSI ports.
Can anyone tell me the latest release of VMS that will run on a
MicroVAX-I? The last one I ran had 4.5 on it, but I'd like to run at
least 4.7 or 5.x.
Thanks,
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!"
St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill
Hello,
I've begun to prepare a site with a wealth of Option Board information.
Hopefully, the end result will be that any person with an Option Board and
no docu/software will be able to use it productively.
http://dbz.icequake.net/oldskool/dob/
I would appreciate any comments, criticism, flames, corrections, information,
whatever. 8)
--
Ryan Underwood, <nemesis at icequake.net>, icq=10317253
jabber=nemesis at jabber.icequake.nethttp://www.icequake.net/~nemesis
|= icequake networks, ltd. =|= university of missouri rolla =|
|= system administration =|= computer science =|
Well, from the overwhelming response already, it seems like a good one =)
Now for an important issue:
I have no real clue of electronics pathways, circuity (board level
repairs), soldering, etc. nor am I knowledgeable of electrical currents,
signalling or anything else necessary. I have quickly realized this.
If I paid money is some form or means, would it be possible for someone to
actually set this up in a provided 5.25" or 3.5" bay blank? I am fully
willing to pay for components, shipping and labor.
The concept is thus: 2 LED's for SCSI controller I/O, 2 LED's for Ethernet
and 4 LED's for SCSI drives. Was hoping for SCSI LED's to be orange,
Ethernet to be yellow and SCSI drives to be possibly blue. I would have to
assume that even the blue LED's can be obtained reasonably from somewhere
to make this work. Again, I am ignorant of electrical work and this is why
I ask for help.
The SCSI controller is an LSI Logic 22910, the Ethernet controller is an
IBM PCI Ethernet adapter (AMD PC-Net II) and I think the SCSI drives for
front panel LED's are pretty standard. I DO HAVE THE SHEETS ON ALL OF THESE.
Anyone interested? Please email me in private:
john_boffemmyer_iv(a)boff-net.dhs.org
I am a computer technician and network troubleshooter. I am in NO way a
rocket scientist or experienced avid hobbiest like some of my brethren
here. Many of you have this knowledge and experience, please help if you
can. ...BTW Doc, yes, I really do have too much time on my hands
sometimes... when I am not commuting 2 hours each way to work and putting
in 42hr+ work weeks. The weekends become a lull and boredom sinks in...
that is when my damned mind rears it's ugly head and starts thinking (I
hate when it does that).
Thanks gang,
John
----------------------------------------
Founder, Lead Writer, Tech Analyst
and Web Designer Boff-Net Technologies
http://boff-net.dhs.org/index.html
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On April 11, Joe wrote:
> I just talked to Eric Smith and he's going to be visiting this area (Orlando) around May 17 or 18. I thought it might be a good time for another Junk Feast. Let me know if you're interested.
Hey! Yes!! :-) I missed the last one because I hadn't moved down
here yet...but now I'm just a little ways away in St. Petersburg.
Barring any catastrophe, count me in!
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!"
St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill
Hi, few days ago I moved my HSC90 into the basement and today I
changed the power-plug to a 4-prong household kind, plugged it
in and it actually powered up. I could even boot it from the
RX33 disk that had been sitting for years on a scrap yard. All
good news. But seems like I have a serious error in the CI
"host adapter" and the HSC User Manual doesn't say anything
about it. the K.ci fails DIT with status 111. SHOW ALL says that
K.ci was not detected. The three boards show the follwing lights:
|
R |
R R
1 2 3
where "R" marks a red LED and | marks a row of yellow LEDs. Notably
the green LEDs underneath the red ones don't come on whereas they do
come on on all the SI interfaces.
Knowing that the CI is finnicky with unterminated ports I did
connect all four to the star coupler. But it didn't change the
error. Are my cards broken? I hope there's some other oversight
that can be uncovered with the deciphering of the status 111.
Thanks,
-Gunther
--
Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org
Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care
Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine
tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org
> Are you saying that a program in a mask programmed ROM is
> not firmware? Because everybody else that I know would call it
> that.
>
There are many who would disagree with them, Tony. One
characteristic common to all definitions I've run into in firmware
is that it's FIELD-Programmable. Another is that it's non-volatile,
i.e. persists between power cycles.
Richard, you seem to be forgetting all those adverts from the 70s
and 80s that boasted "Firmware in ROM!". Also a quick look at a
dictionary reveals ... 8^)=
---------------------------------------------
firm?ware Pronunciation Key (f?rm w?r ) n.
Computer programming instructions that are stored in a
read-only memory unit rather than being implemented through
software.
Source: The American Heritage? Dictionary of the English
Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright ? 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
---------------------------------------------
firmware
n : (computer science) coded instructions that are stored
permanently in read-only memory.
Source: WordNet ? 1.6, ? 1997 Princeton
University
---------------------------------------------
firmware
Software stored in read-only memory (ROM) or programmable ROM
(PROM). Easier to change than hardware but harder than software
stored on disk. Firmware is often responsible for the behaviour of a
system when it is first switched on. A typical example would be a
"monitor" program in a microcomputer which loads the full operating
system from disk or from a network and then passes control to it.
Source: The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing,
? 1993-2001 Denis Howe
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John R. Keys Jr." <jrkeys(a)concentric.net>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 8:13 PM
Subject: Help on two new finds
> Today I found a Black IBM external 8 inch drive at a Goodwill here for
> $12.99. I checked google and could not find any real good info on it.
> IBM's site was not much help either since this unit is from 1995.
Anyone
> have in details on it, I would like to hook it up to the AS/400 I got
> the other day.
>
> Down at my warehouse while looking for some manuals I came across a
box
> that was addressed to someone in MN. I opened it and found a strange
> looking keyboard/computer. It's black with gold stripes and says on
the
> front "System Logic / KBD-1 SYNERGISTIC DESIGN INC." . This is a
> strange looking machine, the key caps are white clued on paper using
> black and red print. Anyone have one of these along with a manual or
> any information on it? Thanks in advance John
>
Greetings;
FYI - at some point in the not too distant future (read weeks) I want to
move the classiccmp list onto a different machine (but same location). This
isn't being done for cpu/memory load or bandwidth reasons, it's mainly for
logistical reasons. So - one machine will be dedicated to handling all
classiccmp list traffic and that is all it will do. Right now the machine
the list is on is also one of several doing backup DNS and mail for the ISP.
Once the classiccmp stuff is moved it will also be shadowed by some of our
other servers, but the primary server will be dedicated to classiccmp.
I am perfectly willing to subsidize the entire cost of the hardware for the
new machine. However, I am also willing to accept any donations of cash or
hardware to cover the cost. I will host the machine and maintain it always
for free, but the initial hardware would be nice to get some help with
(although not required!). Here are the components and costs. If anyone has
any of the components to spare and is willing to donate them, great - or if
you want to kick in some cash to defray the cost - great too. But whatever
people don't cover, I'm willing to cover myself even if it is the entire
amount.
ASUS micro-ATX motherboard with built in video and network interface: $65.00
Intel celeron 1.2ghz $80
Teac Floppy: $10
IDE CD-ROM: $30
256mb RAM: $80
30gb ultra IDE hard drive: $0 (I already have this sitting around, but a 2nd
to mirror might be nice)
1U rackmount chassis: $150
In order to address the previously discussed issues of [offlist] tags and
html rejection, as well as because of a lot of other nifty features, I'm
also considering using mailman. It gives a wonderfull web interface for
those that want to do their subscribes/unsubscribes & the like on their own.
Yes, it still supports email subscribtion requestions. Basically, it gives
me a lot of flexibility and options that majordomo doesn't. Not sure about
this all yet.
Thanks!
Jay West
Bill Richman wrote:
>...
> while having the reader software ignore them, I'd like to follow some
> kind of established standard. Can anyone give me any pointers on
> this?
Since DATA I/O makes a paper tape reader to connect to some of their
PROM programmers, there a great description of various paper tape and
data formats included in their PROM programmer manuals.
http://www.spies.com/arcade/TE/DataIO29A.pdf
See Appendix A
Regards,
--Doug
=========================================
Doug Coward
@ home in Poulsbo, WA
Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center
http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/analog
Analogrechner, calculateur analogique,
calcolatore analogico, analoogrekenaar,
komputer analogowy, analog bilgisayar,
kampiutere ghiyasi, analoge computer.
=========================================
I have a line on "at least 32 tk-50 tape cartridges" for free in (I think)
Ohio. If you want these, follow the sig instructions and mail me. I may then
put you in contact with the owner.
--
Jeffrey Sharp
The email address lists(a)subatomix.com is for mailing list traffic. Please
send off-list mail to roach jay ess ess at wasp subatomix beetle dot com.
You may need to remove some bugs first.
So far, cash ($35) has been donated as well as the following hardware...
256mb RAM
32X IDE CDROM
1.44mb floppy drive
Quite a few people have asked if I can take the donations via paypal... so
my paypal id is jwest(a)classiccmp.org
It is a personal paypal account, so as I understand it, you can send
donations if you have a verified paypal bank account. They have to come from
a bank account, not a credit card.
Also - I don't wish to have extra cash left over from any donations. So I'll
probably work out something where if there is cash left over, the extra
amount is divided up among the people who donated based on their percentage
of donation and send them cash back. Or it could be kept in case hardware
fails, but I really don't want to go down that route. In any case, once the
hardware is all purchased and covered, I will post an accounting of each
amount or hardware donated so everyone knows it's all above-board so to
speak.
My sincere thanks!
Jay West
I made contact with an employee of Kansas Computer Recycling Corp. in
Topeka. The conversation drifted to my favorite subject, and he said
they had a bunch of cards for Amigas, including what he thought was a
toaster . . . .
Well they did have them. I went home with 15 Toaster cards, 5 Flyer
cards, 18 Ethernet cards (extremely rare and pricey), 4 68040 accerator
cards, and a plethora of other goodies.
I will have extras of the above for sale, once I chip through them and
see what's working and not. This has to be the <<<<BEST>>>>> Amiga find
in all the years I've played with them.
Also at KCRC in Topeka, I saw a Sun SPARQ in the scrap pile out back, so
they occasionally get the higher grade stuff. Check out
www.kansascrc.com or e-mail kansascrc(a)go.com. Gerald & Lynne Hartman
are the owners, and they dismantle mostly later PC stuff and pitch the
old/odd stuff out the back door.
Gary Hildebrand
ST. JOseph, MO
Please contact Darren directly if interested in this system; he would like
it to go to a good home.
Bill
----- Forwarded message from Darren Harrison <harrojnr(a)ozemail.com.au> -----
From: "Darren Harrison" <harrojnr(a)ozemail.com.au>
To: "Bill Bradford" <mrbill(a)mrbill.net>
Subject: Re: vax micro computer
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:54:31 +1000
Thanks Bill,
It is a Digital MicroVAX 3100-80 with a storage expansion. Both are SCSI
compatible and the storage expansion also has a 9 track port.
VAX 3100-80
Model No. -470ZM-B9-A01
SN - KA236W6545
Storage expansion
Model No. - SZ12J-JA
SN - AB23403IHO
I did notice you were in Austin, TX.
The VAX and I are in Melbourne, Australia. Hope this doesn't cause any
problems.
Thanks again,
Darren Harrison
Urban Science,
harrojnr(a)ozemail.com.au
----- Original Message -----
--
Bill Bradford
mrbill(a)mrbill.net
Austin, TX
> Christopher Smith wrote:
>
>There's also an alternate alternate procedure that would involve
not
>running sys$system:startup.com or whatever, and just trying to run
>"authorize," installing the proper images until it stops
complaining
>about not having them ;)
I suppose if you are a masochist, yes :-)
The original poster seems to have missed
the required
$ SET NOON
That should be the first thing you
type, without that the first error
bombs you out and you get to
boot all over again ...
It looks like he just didn't know
that at the Username: prompt,
if you have managed to boot with
SYSUAFALT (and the startup files
don't plug this hole! ... which is
the reason for the long-winded
crack anyway) then as long as
it's the console and as long as
you enter SYSTEM you just need
to hit RETURN (well anything really)
for both the password prompts and
you are in.
Copious details at:
http://www.openvms.compaq.com/wizard/openvms_faq.html
and plenty of docs at
http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/
(OpenVMS User's manual is probably
a good one to start with).
Be nice to see that list of docs ...
Antonio
I contacted a local (Kansaas City) amigaphile and Toaster technician,
and he gave me the lowdown on hardware requirements for the Toaster and
Toaster Flyer systems.
The Toaster 2000 and Toaster 4000 cards are different, and require
different software to operate. The physical difference is that the 4000
card was made a bit shorter so it would easily fit in the standard slot
on an A3000 or A4000 desktop. The A2000 card was in its own dedicated
video card slot, and wasn't limited in lengh.
I'm getting the software from him, and we're setting up a test machine
to do a go/no go test on these cards. He also does componenet level
repairs on motherboards, etc. for most Amigas, if anyone is interested.
Of course that is limited by parts availability.
Gary Hildebrand
ST. Joseph, MO
> From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com>
> I concede I am not only both silly and lazy, but somewhat disturbed (and
> somewhat disturbing as well).
God-oh-mighty. Sellam, what's this? Honesty and personal disclosure all
in
one post? What could be next? Kindness?
Dude!
Glen
0/0
Hi;
I am interested in one of your Toaster 2000 cards when you get around to
deciding what you are willing to part with. I have been keeping a 2000 around
for years.
Thanks for the info too. I like the history.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerome H. Fine [mailto:jhfinepw4z@compsys.to]
> As for the first bug I want to put on the list, MACRO-11 does
> not conform to the ISO standard since it uses ONLY 2 digit
There's an ISO MACRO-11? :)
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
To all who may be interested,
The "CommodoreOne" is nearing completion. Check out
http://www.commodoreone.com for a picture of the partially assembled
motherboard! :) (Click on news)
If that site is down, go to http://www.geocities.com/profdredd/ and click
on "CommodoreOne Details" for a bigger picture with important features pointed
out.
Cheers,
Bryan
Anybody need a small, lightweight, fast line printer?
If so, delete this post. :)
We got in 2 printers yesterday that are DEC badged on front, but the
only other info I can find is a Printronix label on the pedestal
designating it a P300. I guess Printronix built printers for DEC?
Anyway, they are pristine. I haven't unwrapped the pallets they're
on, but judging by the condition of the computer that drove them, I'll
bet even the ribbon is good. They're available for sale, not by me. If
you need one and are willing to arrange shipping, contact me off list.
Doc
I have a Documation D150 card reader that I am trying to make operational.
I fired it up today and ran a card through, only to have a big black
streak get "printed" to the card. I thought this was odd, so I opened it
up and found several problems.
The black streak was caused by the roller that pulls the card through the
slot. It's basically melted into a gooey ink-like mess. Actually, only
one side of it has melted. The other side is mostly intact, so I may be
able to just eliminate the melted side and still use this roller. It
looks like this:
__ __
| \/ |
==| |== <-- spindle
|__/\__|
^- one side melted
Then there is a rubber gasket that was around a disc that was situated
perpendicular to the way the card slides through. This roller dried up
and crumbled into several different pieces.
^
card goes in this way ---> and the rubber disk spun this way |
|
I think the purpose of this roller was to push the card against the guide
so that it goes through the reader straight.
Then there are two toothed belts driving cams from motors. One of them
got completely obliterated. The radial threads inside the belt got
wrapped around the drive cam and left a gooey residue on it. The other
belt is still in tact but very gooey, and is probably going to go at some
point as well. I was able to get this code off of it: SDP 6R6-055018C
I did a Google search but didn't turn anything up on this reader.
Does anyone know of a source to get replacement belts and parts for this
reader?
--
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
* Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *
On April 12, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> > Yeah. She's gonna get a flood of marriage proposals from dweebs
> > she's never met.
>
> Actually, she already does and has publicly lamented about this before.
Bummer. We should all have such problems.
> Did I miss where you asked if she was cute, keeping in line with your
> trademark theme? ;-)
I already know she's cute. :)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!"
St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill
On April 12, James B. DiGriz wrote:
> > I wasn't going to mention it...but yes, quite cute indeed.
>
> Absolutely. The thing is, I look at her work, and I tend to forget or
> not care about that. I'm getting an inferiority complex, in fact.
Me to, for the latter anyway. I don't forget...it just makes me
wonder if she's single. ;)
> Bet she's dreading slashdot, though :-)
Yeah. She's gonna get a flood of marriage proposals from dweebs
she's never met.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!"
St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk]
> Here's how I'd do it (to make an 8 * 1 bit fusible-fuse PROM).
[snip]
> The way it works is like this. Normaly the Rd/Pgm relay is in the Rd
> state (as shown). In which case the sense relay is energised if the
> selected fuse is intact. You can use the contacts of the
> sense relay to
> turn on/off a light bulb or something.
Very close to what I imagined doing -- though, I hadn't gotten as far as
an address decoder. :) Thanks.
> To blow a fuse, select it with the decoder tree and then energise the
> Rd/Pgm relay briefly. Enough current will flow via the
> limiting resistor
> to blow the selected fuse. When the Rd/Pgm relay returns to
> the normal
> position, there will no longer be a path to ground for the
> bottom end of
> the sense relay, so this relay will not be energised.
Again -- a good plan. I was thinking about using a momentary switch
for programming anyway, rather than anything more complex, so that
fits exactly with what I wanted.
> I am going to _have_ to make one of these just for fun....
I'm glad that I'm not the only one crazy enough to consider trying it.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote (after Vassilis Prevelakis):
> > The built-in printer takes hp92261a print cartridges which (amazingly)
>
> Is this the Thinkjet cartridge (little clear plastic thing with a black
> rubber ink sack inside)? If so, then the printer electronics is likely to
> be close to the Thinkjet as well (see above for my comments on HPIL on
> this, etc).
Yes, the Integral takes Thinkjet cartridges. I think the Integral's
printer is just a Thinkjet repackaged to fit in the top of an
Integral, though it's been a while since I've looked at or inside an
Integral and lately my memory for these sorts of details has gone
to hell.
-Frank McConnell
I'm certainly not going to get involved in a discussion about PALs and
FPGAs, but if anyone wants to know more about microprogrammed machines,
I have a book which I will gladly trade for any interesting terminal
manuals. Beware, it's over 400 pages of machines I've never heard of.
Contents follows:
ACM Monograph Series
Foundations of Microprogramming: architecture, software and applications
Ashok K. Agrawala and Tomlinson G. Rauscher
Academic Press, Inc. 1976
ISBN 0-12-045150-6
Chapter 1 - Introduction to Microprogramming Concepts
1.1 Basic Computer Organization
1.1.1 Basic Hardware Resources
1.1.2 Control of Primitive Operations
1.1.3 Generation of Control Information
1.2 Evolution of Microprogramming
1.3 A Simple Microprogrammble Machine - An Example
1.4 Microprogramming and Programming
1.5 Microprogrammability
1.6 Microprogramming, Microprocessors, and Microcomputers
Chapter 2 - Architectural Characteristics of Microprogrammed Computers
2.1 Introduction
2.2 Hardware Components
2.2.1 Overview of Hardware Components
2.2.2 Control Store Design
2.2.3 Arithmetic and Logic Unit Design
2.2.4 Local Store
2.2.5 Main Memory
2.2.6 Data Paths
2.2.7 Summary of the SMM
2.3 Microinstruction Design
2.3.1 Introduction
2.3.2 The Vertical-Horizontal Characteristics
2.3.3 The Encoding Characteristic
2.3.4 Microinstruction Design for the SMM
2.3.5 Microinstruction Sequencing
2.3.6 Residual Control
2.3.7 Control Store Literals
2.4 Microinstruction Implementation
2.4.1 Introduction
2.4.2 The Serial-Parallel Characteristics
2.4.3 The Monophase-Polyphase Characteristics
Chapter 3 - Microprogramming Languages and Support Software
3.1 Introduction
3.2 Microprogramming Languages and their Translators
3.3 Simulators and their Implementation
3.4 Computer Description Languages
Chapter 4 - Computers with Vertical Microinstructions
4.1 Introduction
4.2 The Standard Logic CASH-8
4.2.1 CASH-8 Background
4.2.2 CASH-8 Architecture
4.2.3 CASH-8 Microprogrammability
4.3 The Burroughs B1700
4.3.1 Burroughs B1700 Overview
4.3.2 B1726 Architecture
4.3.3 B1726 Microprogrammability
4.3.4 B1726 Microprogramming Language
4.3.5 Sample B1726 Microprograms
Chapter 5 - Computers with Diagonal Microinstructions
5.1 Introduction
5.2 The Hewlett-Packard HP21MX
5.2.1 HP21MX Background
5.2.2 HP21MX Architecture
5.2.3 HP21MX Microprogrammability
5.2.4 HP21MX Microprogram Examples
5.2.5 Additional HP21MX Features
5.3 The Digital Scientific META 4
5.3.1 META 4 Background
5.3.2 META 4 Architecture
5.3.3 META 4 Microprogrammability
5.3.4 META 4 Examples
5.4 The INTERDATA Model 85
5.4.1 INTERDATA Model 85 Background
5.4.2 INTERDATA Model 85 Architecture
5.4.3 INTERDATA 85 Microprogrammability
5.4.4 INTERDATA 85 Microprogram Example
5.5 The Microdata 3200
5.5.1 Microdata 3200 Background
5.5.2 Microdata 3200 Architecture
5.5.3 Microdata 3200 Microprogrammability
5.5.4 Microdata 3200 Microprogram Example
5.6 Other Computers with Diagonal Microinstructions
5.6.1 The Datasaab FPU
5.6.2 The MLP-900
5.6.3 The CONTROL DATA 5600
5.6.4 The Data General ECLIPSE
Chapter 6 - Computers with Horizontal Microinstructions
6.1 Introduction
6.2 The Cal Data Processor
6.2.1 Cal Data Background
6.2.2 Cal Data Architecture
6.2.3 Cal Data Microprogrammability
6.2.4 Cal Data Microprogram Example
6.3 The PRIME 300
6.3.1 PRIME 300 Background
6.3.2 PRIME 300 Architecture
6.3.3 PRIME 300 Microprogrammability
6.4 The Varian 73
6.4.1 Varian 73 Background
6.4.2 Varian 73 Architecture
6.4.3 Varian 73 Microprogrammability
6.4.4 Additional Varian 73 Features
6.5 The Nanodata QM-1
6.5.1 QM-1 Background
6.5.2 QM-1 Architecture
6.5.3 QM-1 Microprogrammability and Nanoprogrammability
6.5.4 QM-1 Examples
6.6 The Burroughs Interpreter
6.6.1 Interpreter Background
6.6.2 Interpreter Architecture
6.6.3 Interpreter Microprogrammability
6.6.4 Interpreter Examples
6.6.5 Interpreter Applications
6.7 The Argonne Microprocessor (AMP)
6.7.1 AMP Background
6.7.2 AMP Architecture
6.7.3 AMP Microprogrammability
6.7.4 AMP Example
6.7.5 AMP Experiences
6.8 MATHILDA
6.8.1 MATHILDA Background
6.8.2 MATHILDA Architecture
6.8.3 MATHILDA Microprogrammability
6.8.4 MATHILDA Example
6.8.5 Additional MATHILDA Features
Chapter 7 - Developments in Microprogramming Languages
7.1 Introduction
7.2 Register Transfer Microprogramming Languages
7.3 Higher Level Machine-Dependent Languages
7.4 Higher Level Machine-Independent Languages
7.5 An Evaluation of Developments in Microprogramming Languages
Chapter 8 - Applications of Microprogramming
8.1 Introduction
8.2 Emulation
8.3 Program Enhancement
8.4 Executing Higher Level Language Programs
8.5 Operating Systems
8.6 Signal Processing
8.7 Graphics
8.8 Microdiagnostics and Fault Tolerance
8.9 Other Applications of Microprogramming
Chapter 9 - Perspective
9.1 Overview
9.2 The Past
9.3 The Present
9.4 The Future
9.5 Concluding Remarks
On April 12, Gene Buckle wrote:
> > > > the I/O is custom PLD logic that is impressive, if it is standard logic
> > > > chips, that is great that he could find the chips in prototype
> > > > quantities.
> >
> > > It's not a he, it's a she. :)
> >
> > or inbetween ?
> >
> Not a chance. From the pictures at http://www.commodoreone.com, she's a
> cute little wisp of a girl. :)
I wasn't going to mention it...but yes, quite cute indeed.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!"
St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Franchuk [mailto:bfranchuk@jetnet.ab.ca]
> The main reason I have never played with them is I could never find a
> Fuse Prom Burner schematic that looked reasonable. I still
> would like to
> do a TTL computer with fused based proms ( or EEPROM's as modern
> substitute )for control logic. I am just finishing up a nice
> FPGA design
At one point I considered making an "illustrative project" of building
a pseudo fuse blown PROM out of several inline type fuses -- like are used
in power supplies, for instance.
It would be possible to illustrate not only electronically, but visually,
the way that the ROM works. :) "The black ones are 0s... ;)" (or is that
a 1?)
Anything beyond a size of several bytes would be unmanageable, of course.
I figured you might fit 64 bytes in the size of a VHS tape if you use
small fuses.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
On April 12, Chris wrote:
> > The Trenton MVA office is in Trenton (ahem) right off of Route 1, and
> >is a fair distance from Edison where TCF is now held. There is likely
> >an MVA satellite office in Edison but I couldn't guess as to where. I
> >try to avoid Edison.
>
> Well.. I guess if the Trenton computer fest is really held in Edison...
> then it doesn't really matter where the Trenton DMV is.
When it was started, it was held at the Trenton State College campus
in West Trenton. Then it moved to the campus of Mercer County
Community College (*after* I moved out of the apartment that was
nearly walking distance from there!)...now the Edison thing.
> Alas, hitting the Edison DMV is useless. NJ only allows you to do the
> initial NF (No Fee) registrations in person and in the Trenton DMV office
> (they are the only one with the NF plates, and for some reason, they
> require it to be in person rather than by mail).
Yup.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!"
St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill
> The Trenton MVA office is in Trenton (ahem) right off of Route 1, and
>is a fair distance from Edison where TCF is now held. There is likely
>an MVA satellite office in Edison but I couldn't guess as to where. I
>try to avoid Edison.
Well.. I guess if the Trenton computer fest is really held in Edison...
then it doesn't really matter where the Trenton DMV is.
Alas, hitting the Edison DMV is useless. NJ only allows you to do the
initial NF (No Fee) registrations in person and in the Trenton DMV office
(they are the only one with the NF plates, and for some reason, they
require it to be in person rather than by mail).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
I've been doing some web searching and reading the "TV Typewriter"
book concerning puched tape encoding schemes, and I'm a bit confused.
I've written a program to punch tape on my PC, and a short bit of code
to read the tapes on my IMSAI 8080, but there are some problems.
Since the unpunched tape leader looks just like a "zero" to the tape
reader, I usually end up with some extra 0's at the start of my
programs on the IMSAI. Also, I have a feeling that the tape reader
may "eat" some of the codes if they're things like X-ON, X-OFF, etc,
although I may be wrong. If I'm going to do something along the lines
of using two 4-bit values to represent each byte, or an escape code to
distinguish real 0's from leading blanks, and maybe include a
full-width (FF) punch every foot or so to allow for easy folding,
while having the reader software ignore them, I'd like to follow some
kind of established standard. Can anyone give me any pointers on
this?
-Bill Richman (bill_r(a)inetnebr.com)
Web Page: http://incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r
Home of the COSMAC Elf Microcomputer Simulator, Fun with
Molten Metal, Orphaned Robots, and Technological Oddities.
I'm trying to build a development platform for my Imsai. I've tried various
CP/M emulators but haven't found one I like yet.
Has anyone sucessfully run CP/M on a PC without running under dos and/or
windows?
Thanks.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: FLTLT(AAFC) Geoff Roberts [mailto:co.614sqn@aafc.adfc.gov.au]
> I think that means you may have a console password enabled.
> Um. Bad karma.
> There is an alternate procedure in the VMS System Management Manual
> involving SYSUAFALT
> you could give that a go.
There's also an alternate alternate procedure that would involve not
running sys$system:startup.com or whatever, and just trying to run
"authorize," installing the proper images until it stops complaining
about not having them ;)
Of course, that's the long way around. The point is that if you've
gotten as far as actually running that script, you can pretty much do
whatever you like.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com]
> > didn't answer my email, and I really didn't feel like
> playing telephone
> > games trying to find the right number ;)
> That's a darn good reason not to buy _anything_, in my world. But I
> do like Plextor readers. They're much faster in large reads than
> equally-rated other brands, and they seem to get a better sound out of
> music CDs. Plus, they'll boot darned near anything.
I like them too -- I waited a month and a half for somebody to
talk to me about buying one...
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com]
> > can also use the conv=noerror option to ignore read errors if you
> > really want whatever data you can get.
> Um, I've not been successful with that option in Linux or in NetBSD.
> I've tried it reading from damaged tape and from damaged CD media. dd
> will keep trying... to read the same unreadable block.
> If I missed the way around that, I'd really like to know.
I'm not sure. I was under the impression that the errors were ignored
and it kept going. This did make a good (AFAIK ;) copy of a disk that had
some problems once for me...
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
On April 12, Gene Buckle wrote:
> > > > the I/O is custom PLD logic that is impressive, if it is standard logic
> > > > chips, that is great that he could find the chips in prototype
> > > > quantities.
> >
> > > It's not a he, it's a she. :)
> >
> > or inbetween ?
> >
> Not a chance. From the pictures at http://www.commodoreone.com, she's a
> cute little wisp of a girl. :)
I wasn't going to mention it...but yes, quite cute indeed.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!"
St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill
On April 11, Carlini, Antonio wrote:
> >Ok... I'll bite... what is that "peripheral"? Nukes or something?
>
> Not sure I remember this correctly
> but I have a feeling it was something like
> the Washington metro - where obviously
> "Washington" is a code name for
> some plausible east coast city that
> actually does have a metro, just
> in case my memory is failing again :-)
That would make sense...Washington DC does indeed have a Metro, and
last I heard Tim lived in Bethesda, MD, which is right off the DC
beltway.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!"
St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill
> Is there a website somewhere that will tell me exactly how to
> put the boards in an 11/34c? Someone gave me a working 11/34a.
> It boots RT-11. I want to add the cache and floating point
> boards. I've never had my hands on a UNIBUS machine before.
Potentially stupid question, but isn't this still a PDP-11/34a? Is there
such a thing as a PDP-11/34c?
One place you might want to start is the PDP-11/34 User Manual at:
http://www.spies.com/~aek/pdf/dec/pdp11/
Zane
On April 12, Sridhar the POWERful wrote:
> > The Trenton MVA office is in Trenton (ahem) right off of Route 1,
> > and is a fair distance from Edison where TCF is now held. There is
> > likely an MVA satellite office in Edison but I couldn't guess as to
> > where. I try to avoid Edison.
>
> What? You don't like Indian people?
I'm fine with Indian people. It's just the whole "bullets flying
overhead" thing that I just can't get used to...and they tend not to
be fired by the Indian people.
Weenie. ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!"
St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill
On April 12, Chris wrote:
> What wonderful timing for you to post the reminder... THANKS! (now, does
> anyone know if the Trenton DMV is anywhere near the fest grounds? Maybe I
> can transfer my fire department's trailer registrations to NF while I am
> down there so we can stop paying reg fees every year)
The Trenton MVA office is in Trenton (ahem) right off of Route 1, and
is a fair distance from Edison where TCF is now held. There is likely
an MVA satellite office in Edison but I couldn't guess as to where. I
try to avoid Edison.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!"
St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill
Forgot to mention my website (a bit of promotion).
Check http://home.hetnet.nl/~tshaj
Click on the 11/35 console.
Click on the PDP-11/34A link. Enjoy a little.
Click on the *_folder_* PDP-11/34A.
The tree open. Click on the CPU information.
2 subfolders appear. Click on these to get to some documents.
Extra promotion.
In the first page, click on the starfield.
I have updated my StarShip website extensively.
Have a nice weekend, all,
- Henk.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Engdahl [mailto:jrengdahl@safeaccess.com]
> Sent: vrijdag 12 april 2002 4:20
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: PDP-11/34c website?
>
>
> Is there a website somewhere that will tell me exactly how to
> put the boards in an 11/34c? Someone gave me a working 11/34a.
> It boots RT-11. I want to add the cache and floating point
> boards. I've never had my hands on a UNIBUS machine before.
>
> I did some web searching, and found a series of messages from
> when Megan did something similar, but it would be nice to find
> this info all in one place.
>
> --
> Jonathan Engdahl Rockwell Automation
> Principal Research Engineer 1 Allen-Bradley Drive
> Advanced Technology Mayfield Heights, OH 44124
> http://users.safeaccess.com/engdahl jrengdahl(a)safeaccess.com
>
> "The things which are seen are temporary,
> but the things which are not seen are eternal." II Cor. 4:18
>
>
>
WHERE CAN I FIND A FREE WIN OP SYS SETUP SOFTWARE FOR MY COMPAQ SLT286? IT ALREADY HAS DOS/WIN INSTALLED BUT I CANNOT ACCESS IT- WIN? WIN3.1? I DUUHHHH DUNNO....!!!
Google tells me that the TSU05 interface board, itself a rebadged Dilog
board, emulates a TS11. Does anyone know for sure if this emulation is good
enough to fool V7M UNIX?
Google also tells me that the TS05 is slow. Are there any other issues with
this transport, such as tape eating, or might it be pretty dependable?
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