- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

.. (and, as lab supplies, they don't get confused by being fed backwards, so I don't need the diodes)... Lab supplies have the diodes built in on both the + and - legs. running only one in "voltage source" mode, the other(s) in "current source" mode effectively. This is how any group of paralell power supplies works. So, I think if you use PSUs that have a current limiting circuit that is not only for short-circuit protection, but engages smoothly as current approaches the continuous rating of the PSU, You don't need this, in fact it can cause problems with groups of supplies hunting between Ilimit and Vlimit as load is transfered between them. you should be able to connect them in parallel with said diodes. Of course, these PSUs will not be the cheapest devices... As long as you match all the supplies to closer than the vf drop of the diodes nearly any supplies can be connected this way. However, this setup may get difficult if loading varies widely. Usually it isn't a problem as long as there is no minimum load requirement for the individual supplies. Another problem might be shutting down the entire system if one or more of the supplies fail: Use enough supplies so that one faliure is tollerable. you can then hot swap the dud supply. you wouldn't want the remaining ones to supply as much current as they can, keeping the voltage only half-way up and running your circuitry in brown-out mode. If the outputs are overcurrent protected then a faliure of too many supplies should shut down the whole thing. Trouble is it often doesn't work that way. Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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The Apple I on zdnn...

by bpope＠wordstock.com

News about the Apple I auction has appeared on zdnn @ http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1106-884678.html But they don't give a link to the auction site and they don't even mention Sellams' name! But at least it's getting *some* publicity... :) Cheers, Bryan

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UPS was Re: Need Burroughs Tape Spec's

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 16, John R. Keys Jr. wrote: > UPS delivered my Burroughs tape unit model BU4180 yesterday but it was > destroyed. They must have dropped it from a high place as this thing > weighs in at almost 80 pounds. Things inside are pretty bad but I would > like to try and get it looking nice again, since the boards inside are > damaged I do not think I can get it to work again. Does anyone on the > list have repair manual for this model? I would like to see how he belts > go around the pulleys inside the case. Thanks I'm wondering how UPS manages to stay in business anymore. I've shipped about four things via UPS in the past year, and EVERY ONE OF THEM arrived damaged to some extent. WTF?? -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Mmmm. Big." St. Petersburg, FL -Den

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UPS was Re: Need Burroughs Tape Spec's

by Huw.Davies＠kerberos.davies.net.au

At 12:31 PM 16/04/2002 -0400, r. 'bear' stricklin wrote: >Here's a data point for you. And another (Australian one). Years ago when RZ28s were new disk drives and StorageWorks was a new concept I was Senior Systems Programmer looking after a VMS cluster (this story is sufficiently old it might even be on topic :-). In those days RZ28s in SBB were about AUD$3K and we'd ordered 20. My office overlooked the loading bay and I watched in horror as the delivery driver DROPPED the disks off the back of the truck onto the ground (say 4 feet). He couldn't understand why I wasn't going to sign for the delivery - I told him to take them back. Digital changed their preferred courier shortly thereafter..... Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)kerberos.davies.net.au | "If God had wanted soccer played in the | air, the sky would be painted green"

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TTL computing

by tim＠snowgoons.fsnet.co.uk

>From: "Richard Erlacher" <edick(a)idcomm.com> >Date: Mon Apr 15, 2002 03:45:30 am Europe/London > >> Actually, I can see one way that there could be a benefit from >> using TTL.... >> >> The current advances in processor speed have come largely from just >> increasing the clock rate. There haven't been any major changes in CPU >> design to use those clock cylces more efficiently.... > >That's only a small part of the acceleration. The use of multiple piplelines >accounts for much of the performance increase along with increased >datapath width, and other little features. The gradual increase in interest in >parallelism is also going to help quite a bit, so we'll be seeing even more >pipelines in the future. > >> But somebody stuck with old, slow, TTL, just might hit on some way to get >> more performance out of it (because it's all they've got, and they need >> the performnce). The trick they discover just might also be useful to >> speed up ASICs (or FPGAs, or ...) >> >And just exactly HOW would they extract more performance from it? A new >architecture would require new software, both in development tools >and in OS and as applications. Just verifying that their innovation would >take several hundred lifetimes, and the generation of a full set of software >would take that one individual working alone, until well after the next big-bang. I've been keeping out of this conversation so far 'cos I'm not qualified to comment on much of it <grin>, but this statement strikes me as just being Plain Wrong. Your own example of pipelines is a perfectly good example of something which could easily have been invented by someone in their back room building a processor out of TTL. OK, the resultant processor would not be commercially viable, but it would serve perfectly well to demonstrate the theoretical concept and a practical embodiment of it. Enough for the patent application you'd file before taking it to Intel to commercialise, for example! The argument that anyone interested in new architectures is wasting their time ('mentally masturbating' as you so delicately put it,) is entirely specious IMHO. The first stage is always proof of concept, commercialisation is an entirely different game. I doubt the researchers on quantum computers are going to give up and go home because the first devices they produce are the size of a room, require liquid nitrogen to run and - heaven forfend - don't run Windows 2000 or Microsoft Office. If a new architecture offers significant enough benefits, the software support and everything else necessary to capitalise on it will follow. Cheers, Tim. -- Tim Walls at home in Croydon - Reply to tim(a)snowgoons.fsnet.co.uk

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OT Letting it go (was Re: The CommodoreOne is near!)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Christopher Smith <csmith(a)amdocs.com> > > From: John Chris Wren [mailto:jcwren@jcwren.com] > > > But then, one thing I have noticed about the list, > > besides being an > > excellent wealth of information and intelligent people, is > > that some don't > > know when to let something end. > > You can count me in that category. I wonder whether it's typical > of the kind of person you'd find on this list? > > As a general observation, technical types tend to push things > further than most people appreciate in several cases. > > Chris That's because we want to be *right.* It took me a long time to learn that I'd rather be happy than right. Glen 0/0

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Calcomp Ethernet Adapter M971L - Volunteer repair/Anybody got one spare?

by Arno_1983＠gmx.de

So this is going into the third - and, hopefully, last - turn. We had concluded that there is something wrong with the Ethernet adapter on our Calcomp CCL 600 ES laser printer. Now it's even worse - the printer locks up when the interface is installed and does no longer react to its front-panel buttons (On/Offline etc.) On the NIC, the lights for IP and DATA stay lit as long as the printer is on. We don't have the time and the knowledge here to start trying to repair that board, so we hope that somebody out there on the list might throw one in (pref. for shipping costs or little money, but place your prices), or does anybody feel like trying to repair it? Shipping would be from/to Nuremberg, Germany; or, if exchange at the VCF Europe in Munich is possible, I'll show up there and handle things. I'm on digest mode and have no Inet on the weekend, so my answers will be delayed a bit. Thanx in advance Arno Kletzander Arno_1983(a)gmx.de -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net

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Looking for info on an HP-IB cable

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Dan Veeneman <dan(a)ekoan.com> wrote: > I recently picked up an HP-IB cable, made by HP, with a > part number of 12009-60015. One end is an HP-IB connector > and the other end is a 15-pin card edge. > > Any ideas what device this cable connects to on the card edge end? A 12009A card, which is an HP-IB interface for L/XL/A-series HP 1000 computers. -Frank McConnell

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A2065 Ethernet

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

I picked up a PCI ethernet card today that is both 10 Base T and 10 Base 2 outputs. Now I will have a crash (bad term) course in networking, especially across different platforms. I'm wondering if this card is capable of using both outputs at once; i.e. base 2 to my Amiga Etherrnet and base T to a cable modem or hub. If it is an exclusive OR situation, I guess I'll have to get another NIC for another input/output. If all else fails, then I put Linux in the Amiga . . . . . Gary Hildebrand St. Joseph, MO

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Download CD images for RSX-11 and RT-11 Freeware CDs from Tim Shoppa

by jhfinepw4z＠compsys.to

>"William R. Buckley" wrote: > Over the past year, I have sent several messages to Tim Shoppa > requesting a set of CD ROMs containing the offerings of his at > the web site, metalab.unc.edu, yet to date I have not received > the requested material. I have also sent email to Tom directly > but, he has not answered. Is there some extenuating circumstance > of which others on this list are more familiar than I? > William R. Buckley, Director Emeritus > International Core Wars Society Jerome Fine replies: It took a week of trying, but I have finally downloaded all three CD images for RSX-11 and RT-11 from: ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/cd-images/ Note also that the file MD5SUMS seems to contain checksum values, but I don't know how to use these values or produce them myself to check if my files are correct. Can anyone help? The best time seems to be at night. Please realize that these are 650 MByte files and will take many hours in most cases, let alone a whole day (or three) if you do not have a high speed connection like DSL. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

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The CommodoreOne is near!

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: James B. DiGriz [mailto:jbdigriz@dragonsweb.org] > > Um, I think this is getting pretty bad. [...] > Chris, no offense, but get a grip. I'm kicking myself for > leaving room > for any unintentional humor in my comment, but maybe people > are reading > things into this thread that just aren't necessarily there? Perhaps -- I think you're reading more into my comment than was necessarily there. :) (Given that you stripped the entire qualifying couple of paragraphs out...) I have no problem with your comment, myself, or others' comments for the most part. I was only implying that I think we should try not to offend most people too much. Of course it won't always work, but such is life. In other words, Dave and Sridhar can say whatever they like one to the other, all in jest, and it can be understood as such. No problem. It's not so good when the target of the jest, or even a third party -- JCW in this case -- can misunderstand that jest to be disrespect. Anyway, I, for one, wouldn't want somebody making inflatable likenesses of myself... ;) > That's a big > problem with humor, why it is unprofessional and should be avoided in > the workplace, and why I should have proofed myself better. I think that's a bit too general. Certainly there's nothing you could possibly say that wouldn't offend _somebody_. > How about we just drop this whole subject? Hmm -- Ok. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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ALU IC information?

by BFeely＠aol.com

I am trying desperately to find a datasheet for the obsolete semiconductor 74F582. All I know is that it is a 4-bit ALU. I would appreciate it if someone could possibly e-mail me a copy. It would even be good if it was another 7400 logic type, as all the families have the same functions.

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cure equiepement that was in the rain... best practices???

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> On Mon, 15 Apr 2002, Dave McGuire wrote: > > > TLC it performs flawlessly). The water doesn't seem to do any harm at > > all, even with long-term exposure...it's the crap that the water can > > carry into the equipment, and sometimes corrosion later on. > > So what can you do with accumulated mineal salts around component > legs? Looks like tin "rust". I tried firm-but-gentle with a stiff > toothbrush, and didn't get anywhere. > > I have that MV3100-90 board that I think just needs the corrosion, > which I suspect is conductive, removed. Using a small area of the board where you could correct any damage that this substance might cause, try a little CLR... it's a mixture sold throughout the midwest (U.S.) that dissolves Calcium, Lime, and Rust deposits. Phosphoric acid is one of its components... so be real careful. I've never used it on PC boards before, but it can't be beaten for removing corrosion off metal parts. Regards, -dq -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

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OS/2 running under VMWare, or other emulator for Windoze

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Sridhar the POWERful [mailto:vance@ikickass.org] > Bochs is not a good idea on that machine. Bochs is meant to run on > non-PC's and it's a complete PC emulator. What he wants is > Plex86, which > is the system virtualization stuff from Bochs, with none of the PC > emulation stuff. He already has all that. Last I heard, Plex86 was still in the "concept only" stage. Is that information outdated, then? Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Explain the NeXTStation "dim monitor" problem, etc...

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> First off -- can somebody explain the common problem with the > monitors going dim? Can I fix it? (How?) Is there an internal > "intensity" pot that I can adjust to get more life out of the > monitor? It is just bright enough not to strain your eyes at > the highest brightness setting right now... (It's B&W) I have always assumed that the electrons just kick the sh*t out of the phosphor, and the the phosphor just dies... but I hope that's wrong, and that something can indeed be adjusted or replaced (other than the daggone tube itself). -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

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OT email response format (was Re: TTL computing)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Dave McGuire [mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com] > So, why don't you use a real mail client...? ... because restrictions here are such that they don't mind me using their pipe for personal things in a limited manner, but they really hate for people to put any software on their system (typical windows-using mindset, but let's not get into that :), and I'm really trying to play by their rules. They have no real mail client, in fact their installations of lookout(!) are even more broken than usual. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Download CD images for RSX-11 and RT-11 Freeware CDs from TimShoppa

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

Jerome writes: > There is a hobby version of Ersatz-11 which can be downloaded > for free: http://www.dbit.com/pub/ > You will want to download at least /e11/ and /putr/ followed by > those portions that you want to initially focus on. ... > The commercial version does cost $ US 2999 for DOS/W95/W98/NT. Well, considering what John's done for the emulator movement I can't call that predatory pricing. If the market is there, then so be it... BTW, I realize we have many consultants on this list who can justify that cost as a business expense. I also realize people of various means are on this list. I do confess to wishing I had more "leverage"; I hope that doesn't get taken as class jealousy. > In particular, I am allowed to use a raw SCSI hard disk drive by: > MOUNT DU0: SCSI5: > where "5" is the SCSI ID of the SCSI hard drive. This allows me to > use the same SCSI hard disk drive with both Ersatz-11 and on > a real PDP-11 system. Ken Harrenstein's KLH-10 has this ability, although I haven't used it yet. It sure would be nice if someone would do a commercial HP2000/2100 emulator and be able to cripple it slightly for those hobbyists who'd like to run one. Yes, Bob, I read your message, but I had something else in mind... ;) -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

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Explain the NeXTStation "dim monitor" problem, etc...

by csmith＠amdocs.com

Ok, I've got my NeXTStation working, but I'm in need of some advice. First off -- can somebody explain the common problem with the monitors going dim? Can I fix it? (How?) Is there an internal "intensity" pot that I can adjust to get more life out of the monitor? It is just bright enough not to strain your eyes at the highest brightness setting right now... (It's B&W) Next, can anyone tell me why, after booting into single user mode, and changing the root password with 'nu -m' I might still be refused a login next time I boot? I was able to get in once yesterday, after which I tried this morning and was refused. I booted to single user mode again -- looked at the current password hash, changed the password again (the hash turned out different, but I'm not sure that means much really, and could just be different "salt"), booted again normally, and still couldn't get in. So... is there a possibility that either: A) It's getting another password from somewhere and overwriting the one I put in? (I hope not.. :) or... B) Something's not starting right during boot right now, and it needs this to log people into the system? (More likely, I think...) It does still want to connect to the network, and complains about not being able to talk to several machines when it boots. I'm not sure whether this would make a difference, or how I would convince it not to do this. :) Any suggestions? Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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OT email response format (was Re: TTL computing)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: John Foust <jfoust(a)threedee.com> > Unfortunately, I don't think Winston said anything > about the inability to format e-mail responses > in conventional style, so we're stuck. "see below, plz." > now induces an immediate "CTRL/D" from my left hand. Okay, so what is the *preferred* method of replying to classiccmp posts? Reply at top? Replay at bottom? Or, embedded comments interspersed throughout the replied-to post? I prefer the latter, more conversational style . . . Glen 0/0

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Looking for info on an HP-IB cable

by dan＠ekoan.com

Hi, I recently picked up an HP-IB cable, made by HP, with a part number of 12009-60015. One end is an HP-IB connector and the other end is a 15-pin card edge. Any ideas what device this cable connects to on the card edge end? Google isn't very informative with this one. Cheers, Dan www.decodesystems.com/wanted.html

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Explain the NeXTStation "dim monitor" problem, etc...

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 16, jpero(a)sympatico.ca wrote: > I know phosphors becomes fried slowly from long use but I'm referring > to cathode emissions: > > I wondered whom is right? > > cathode oxide or > heater coating? > > I think this is heater coating. Wouldn't this be an issue of indirectly heated vs. directly heated, i.e. having a cathode with an electrically isolated filament inside vs. just a filament acting as the source of electrons? Some filament-only tubes do have a coating, much the same as the cathode coating I believe. Though I've never seen a CRT with no cathode. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Mmmm. Big." St. Petersburg, FL -Den

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Need Burroughs Tape Spec's

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> UPS delivered my Burroughs tape unit model BU4180 yesterday > but it was destroyed. They must have dropped it from a high > place as this thing weighs in at almost 80 pounds. Things > inside are pretty bad but I would like to try and get it > looking nice again, since the boards inside are damaged I > do not think I can get it to work again. Does anyone on the > list have repair manual for this model? I would like to see > how he belts go around the pulleys inside the case. Thanks You are admirably mellow. In lieu of tasting the blood of the a**hole who did this, I'd want everyone who handled that package fired from UPS, Hell, everyone who *might* have handled it, except for the one I'd have the rapport with, the delivery guy. Don't tell me this was a 7-track drive, or I'll weep profusely... -dq -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

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Champaign trip (aka DEC Galore)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Mzthompson(a)aol.com [mailto:Mzthompson@aol.com] > No doubt, Chris spent yesterday evening going through the > carload of stuff > I took over to him. I'll let him tell about that. Don't let him get Actually, I spent yesterday evening cleaning plaster dust out of my room, since the ceiling decided it was a good time to come loose in one spot, and fall down on my keyboard, minidisc player, apple newton, etc, etc... I did boot the NeXTStation (which now has a monitor cable and mouse, thanks to Mike), and get the XTerm talking to one of my other systems. (... Now if I can just figure out how to service XDMCP requests with GDM) > away with calling it his 'latest haul', because he didn't, it was > 'home delivery'. :) Indeed... > The big sour note, I recognized some single drive expansion > boxes. However, > the DEC badge had been replaced with a Compaq. Compaq > actually went to > the trouble of having the plastic badge inserts remade in their image. > Fortunately, I had not yet had lunch. Heh. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years, 2 months

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VCF Apple-1 Auction 4/19-4/21

by vcf＠siconic.com

The VCF is auctioning off another Apple-1 computer. Complete information on the auction can be found here: http://www.vintage.org/special/apple-1/ The auction will take place from April 19 through April 21. See URL above for complete information. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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TTL computing (link to) Re: Fuse PROM

by mtapley＠swri.edu

Fred wrote (about a demo PROM with visible links): >How about using circuit breakers? >Then you would have a manually erasable PROM, without further expenditure >each time that you program it. Then Richard wrote (about the distinction between hard-, firm-, and soft-ware): >It happens that some folks differentiate >between hardware and firmware based on whether you can touch it or not. You >can't touch firmware, at least not in a practical sense, just as you can't >touch software. Hmmm. If the circuit breakers are the type that pop out a button when they break, I *could* touch software, after it was programmed into the circuit-breaker PROM. Actually, if things were set up *just* right, I could arrange to be hit over the head by software (as it was being written to PROM). Do we need a new name for this device? FEPROM (officially Finger Erasable Programmable etc., but we all know it's really Fred's Erasable etc.)? - Mark

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FWD: Re: Goodbye VAX hello ALpha

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Mmmm, Windows user. Crunchy and good with ketchup. -Dave On April 15, David Woyciesjes wrote: > Has anyone seen this news posting? > > -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Goodbye VAX hello ALpha Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 22:55:13 -0400 From: Bill Gunshannon Organization: University of Scranton Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec References: <3Hmt8.2238$GS6.168438(a)bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com> On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Deane Williams <dwilliams296(a)comcast.net> wrote: > Hello > Just wondering is there a reseller/company that will take > VAXes in trade for Alphas?? I'm talking about 3100s and > even some 4000/XXX and 36/38XX series VAX. And after they get done rolling onthe floor laughing you could put them on a truck and send them up here. I can at least promise they won't be taking up space in a landfill. bill -- > > --- David A Woyciesjes > --- C & IS Support Specialist > --- Yale University Press > --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu > --- (203) 432-0953 > --- ICQ # - 905818 > Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 > Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash > -- Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!" St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill

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UPS was Re: Need Burroughs Tape Spec's

by nemesis-lists＠icequake.net

> If FedEx dropped their price a little I think more people > would use them vice UPS. Thankfully the SGI Indigo2 and 19" monitor> I was waiting on arrived today by UPS and appears to have come > through the ordeal at least physically intact. Don't count on FedEx either. My Indigo2 and monitor each came in large and small pieces. :/ FedEx Ground in St Louis. -- Ryan Underwood, <nemesis at icequake.net>, icq=10317253

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ForSale: WangTek tape drive...

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Wangtek tape drive - Model No. 5150EQ - Assy No. 30551-20B Rev.G Wangtek ISA controller card & ribbon cable - Assy. No. 30475 Rev. C1 10 tapes (5 still in plastic!) - Global G6150 (DC6150 compatible) - I'll answer any queries about the chips on the adapter... - I haven't had a chance to hook it up and try it yet. - Best bid received in 48 hours (5:00pm Thursday, Eastern Time) takes it all. - Considering the weight of the tapes, shipping (from New Haven, CT) will likely cost around $10. - I can easily ship via UPS Ground (my personal preference), or I can do USPS... - I prefer PayPal, but I'll accept Money Order, or cash if you pick it up in person. *** More goodies to come as I clean out & organize the computer room in my house! (Won't my wife be so proud of me! :) - Would it be better to put up a little web page listing the other items I'll be selling, instead of a message like this? Or is this (the 'ForSale:' subject line) okay? -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Download CD images for RSX-11 and RT-11 Freeware CDs from TimShoppa

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> Jerome Fine replies: > > Add one more "m" to your "Hmm" and it will be the same response > that Hasimir Fenring manages to use in the Dune series. > > Seriously, I don't want to have to maintain my own internet system > since I am much more interested in RT-11. Also, since Ersatz-11 > runs under DOS/W95/W98, the W98 (Yeck) environment has become > a default last resort. Are/were you an Ersatz-11 beta tester, or are you rich? I thought it cost US$3K. -dq -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

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UPS was Re: Need Burroughs Tape Spec's

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> > > From: Dave McGuire > > > > On April 16, John R. Keys Jr. wrote: > > > UPS delivered my Burroughs tape unit model BU4180 yesterday but it was > > > destroyed. They must have dropped it from a high place as this thing > > > weighs in at almost 80 pounds.. > > > > I'm wondering how UPS manages to stay in business anymore. I've > > shipped about four things via UPS in the past year, and EVERY ONE OF > > THEM arrived damaged to some extent. WTF?? > > Meanwhile, I personally have never had a problem with UPS, and with > the volume of packages coming & going in this building, I've never seen > anything bad either. Maybe just a moron for a driver? He didn't mention whether it was residential or commercial delivery; with commercial/business dleivery, you usually end up establishing a relationship with the delivery person; as a result, I think those guys are more carefully because they're going to have to look you in the eye. OTOH, residential delivery drivers just dump the package and run... so in that case, I might suspect a delivery person. But I've seen videotapes of UPS employees offloading planes, and with one guy "going long" you can tell how respectful they are with stuff. And they were being quite jolly about it, too... -dq -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

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by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> I think I mentioned it before relative to UPS but I once shipped a 19" monitor > from here (California) to Virginia IICRC. The monitor made it fine to the guys > driveway (He was watching as the UPS driver pulled up) > > It was being kicked off the back of the UPS truck onto the asphalt driveway > that destroyed the monitor. Pretty hard to pack anything (thats big or heavy) > to withstand that... Yup, I'd be in prison now for beating the UPS driver within an inch of his life.... -dq -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

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Explain the NeXTStation "dim monitor" problem, etc...

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> > > First off -- can somebody explain the common problem with the > >> monitors going dim? Can I fix it? (How?) Is there an internal > >> "intensity" pot that I can adjust to get more life out of the > >> monitor? It is just bright enough not to strain your eyes at > >> the highest brightness setting right now... (It's B&W) > > > >I have always assumed that the electrons just kick the sh*t > >out of the phosphor, and the the phosphor just dies... but I > >hope that's wrong, and that something can indeed be adjusted > >or replaced (other than the daggone tube itself). > > The above basically sums it up. Those early B/W NeXT mono > monitors have very short lifespans. Couple that with not being able > to turn off the monitor seperately from the computer and you > can then see why most of them are pretty dim. This comes up on > Usenet quite a bit still. Once they're dim, they're dim. Don't got no Next stuff, but I figured whatever was true of them would be true of my Apollo (&HP) monitors... -dq -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

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Huge Nortel Web Auction this week.

by lgwalker＠mts.net

Just ran across this in the Montreal Gazette. Nortel Networks Corp. has put up for auction untold millions of dollars worth of computers, test equipment, office phone systems, photocopiers and tool kits it once used in St. Laurent and Florida to build Internet equipment for which demand has evaporated. The auction will be Webcast - on http://www.dovebid.com - Thursday and Friday, starting at 9 a.m. A Montreal-area preview day tomorrow will allow potential buyers to physically examine the local assets, not just massive quantities of high-end electronic gear but also fork-lift trucks, heaters, air-compressors and more than 230 Dell laptop computers, PCs and servers. Nortel is conducting a similar preview day at another plant in Boca Raton, Fla. The St. Laurent plant builds Internet transmission equipment and had 6,000 people on its payroll in mid-2000, a figure Quigley estimated has been cut in half. Its gates, on the south side of the Trans-Canada Highway, will be open between 9 a.m. and 4 p.m. "Please watch for auction signs," DoveBid's Web site instructs out-of-town buyers coming to see for themselves. Lawrence lgwalker(a)mts.net bigwalk_ca(a)yahoo.com

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OS/2 running under VMWare, or other emulator for Windoze

by msell＠ontimesupport.com

BOCHS won't even start on my Win2K laptop. Blows immediately with illegal opcodes. Oh well.... moving on...... - Matt At 04:36 PM 4/15/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com > > > > I was hoping to find a way to run trusty OS/2 on my laptop > > when I wasn't > > > busy with work...... > > > They stopped trying to support it in the 2.x days. I got Warp 3 to > > partially boot, but that's all IIRC. I'd say go find > > yourself a copy of > > partition magic (or fips) and dual-boot if you want to play > > with OS/2. :) > >Will BOCHS run on that version of windows? You may have a chance with >that too -- I've heard that it would boot OS/2, but that's second hand >information. > >Chris > > >Christopher Smith, Perl Developer >Amdocs - Champaign, IL > >/usr/bin/perl -e ' >print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); >' > Matthew Sell Programmer On Time Support, Inc. www.ontimesupport.com (281) 296-6066 Join the Metrology Software discussion group METLIST! http://www.ontimesupport.com/subscribe_t&c.html. "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er...

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UPS was Re: Need Burroughs Tape Spec's

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I dunno, I think shipping UPS to a business address versus a residential address may have some effect, not sure.. I hate Fedex ground, they like to deliver my company's packages to Lewan & Assosciates, an office product-type company down the street from us. Gah! Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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NEC V20 and Rainbow (was: NEC V-20 was: Native CP/M)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Lawrence Walker <lgwalker(a)mts.net> To: Mark Tapley <mtapley(a)swri.edu>; classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> I would be interested in seeing the mod documentation when you find it. I keep hoping I'll find a cheap stash of V-20s to use on about 3 or 4 of my boxes, altho they come up fairly reasonable on EPay from time to time. Hows the Stylewriter project going ? Lawrence What do you call cheap. They are commonly available from JDR and other for around $10 for the V20-10, and $9 for the -8{8mhz} version. Allison

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OT email response format (was Re: TTL computing)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: R. D. Davis [mailto:rdd@rddavis.org] > Quothe Christopher Smith, from writings of Tue, Apr 16, 2002 > > because I just don't have the time to write a well-formatted reply, > > and because it is not that offensive. > Your point is? Let me take a guess: you feel that your time is more > important than anyone else's time, disk space and bandwidth. As to it I don't have any say over anyone else's time, but I certainly do my best not to take much of it. If I can save them 20 minutes of work, at the expense of reading a poorly formatted email, why not offer the choice? As for disk space, you'll note (I hope) that even the most terribly formatted of my posts usually have all of the cruft clipped out of them. In addition you'll note that (yes, as a courtesy to anyone who might be reading) I tend to strip out other peoples' formatting mistakes when I reply too. My point is that even though I usually do these things, and even though I probably put more work into it than most other people due to this piece of microsoft trash that I'm using as a mail client, I don't agree that these rules ought to be enforced short of using social pressure when it's appropriate. Did you really not get that from my last post? (I'm not being condescending here, I'm really curious as to whether I missed the mark in trying to lay that out...) > not being offensive, let's just say that there are people in this > world who don't bathe or use deodorants who don't think they're > offensive to others. Indeed, and I generally wouldn't associate with them for the health of my own nose. If a poorly formatted post is that offensive to you, then certainly you're welcome to not read it, and you will either gain time, or lose one of a number of other things because of it. I won't say that it's right or wrong. > For many years most Usenet posts and e-mail did follow such rules, Most still do, at least the ones that I read. Some don't, and of those, most have no good reason not to -- I'll grant that. I still believe that because exceptions to that rule exist, enforcement of the rule ought to take that into account. > then, the 'net became "popular;" the world wasn't perfect back then > either, but most users of the 'net at that time were more likely to be > more intelligent, or at least better educated, than the average > person running loose in our society. It's a shame that's not the case any more, certainly. So how about that classic cmp UUCP network? Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> Quothe Christopher Smith, from writings of Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 10:48:39AM -0500: > > (typical windows-using mindset, but let's not get into that :), > > Alas, it's illegal to properly fix such problems with an appropriate > LART. > > > and I'm really trying to play by their rules. They have no > > Why play by their rules? The more who do, the worse the problem will > become for all of us. Let the biz'droid lusers know that their > software is broken and that they need to pay an appropriate > professional to fix their minds as well. Dang, RD, I was ready to quote your reply to Marvin with a big uppercase DITTO MAN!, then you go and say something like this... Gotta respect ya, you sure don't mince words... OTOH, when we bought those 25 Dells at Christmas, I drew the line on new software; we got Win 2000, not Win XP, and I tried like hell to get Office 2000 instead of Office XP, even to the point of trying to get TPTB buy Office 2000 at a local Marketpro show. But they like that one-stop shopping... -dq -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

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UPS was Re: Need Burroughs Tape Spec's

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 16, Douglas H. Quebbeman wrote: > He didn't mention whether it was residential or commercial delivery; > with commercial/business dleivery, you usually end up establishing > a relationship with the delivery person; as a result, I think those > guys are more carefully because they're going to have to look you > in the eye. > > OTOH, residential delivery drivers just dump the package > and run... so in that case, I might suspect a delivery person. All residential deliveries...but as far as being on the receiving end, I work from home and usually see the driver in person, and I *always* establish a relationship with the drivers for all the services that deliver packages to my house. > But I've seen videotapes of UPS employees offloading planes, > and with one guy "going long" you can tell how respectful > they are with stuff. And they were being quite jolly about > it, too... Fear. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Mmmm. Big." St. Petersburg, FL -Den

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OT email response format (was Re: TTL computing)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Tothwolf [mailto:tothwolf@concentric.net] > Then I guess you will have to deal with people like myself > reformatting > your emails when replying. I personally can't stand to see an > email thread > with mostly proper quoting where someone replies at the top. > Several email > lists I'm on have an enforced rule that email must be quoted > and threaded > properly. That's all good and everything, but I'm certain I'd have reservations about subscribing to a mailing list that enforced it. It so happens that it's quite a bit of extra effort for me to re-format mail so that it looks acceptable, and should I not have the time, yes, I will reply in a form closer to what this piece of $(*& mail client tries to shove down my throat -- I do that both because I just don't have the time to write a well-formatted reply, and because it is not that offensive. HTML is a different story, since most sane people, given a choice of mail readers, would pick one that won't display it. On the other hand, that can be stripped out automatically, leaving no trouble for the people on either end of the conversation. At any rate, removing a post, or a subscriber, because they put the quotations in the wrong place is completely idiotic; this is done, right, or how else would the rule be enforced? > To date, all of the email etiquette information I've read > states that a > reply should always follow the quoted text, with the authors' > names at the > very top. Quotes should also be trimmed down, sometimes to just one > author's text. Any extra or unnecessary quoted text (including sigs) > should be removed to save bandwith. Sure, in a perfect world, that's great, but I've seen some very informative posts that don't follow these rules. Would you just dump them? You're certainly not going to talk everybody into following all of these rules all of the time. > If the subject of a thread changes significantly, the subject > line should > be modified accordingly. A modified subject line should > typically include > _at least_ 1/3-1/2 of the original subject line text, > prefixed by 'was', > and surrounded by parentheses. The current subject line is a > good example. Indeed it should, but again, people forget, or just get lazy, and that doesn't mean that the text of the message is any less valuable. I suppose the point of this whole rant is that regardless of how good these rules are, people will not follow all of them all of the time, and there's really nothing you, or I, or anyone else, can, or should, do about it. (There must be a rule about the number of ,,,s in a single sentence.) That being said, and this being off topic (on top of the fact that it's a problem that can't -- or shouldn't -- be fixed), I'll shut up now. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Explain the NeXTStation "dim monitor" problem, etc...

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Dave McGuire [mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com] > It's been many years since I ran NeXTSTEP, so this might be > useless...but does "nu" modify the netinfo database? If not, well, > that might be the problem. Um... I have no idea. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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UPS was Re: Need Burroughs Tape Spec's

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 4/16/2002 12:12:37 PM Central Daylight Time, dquebbeman(a)acm.org writes: > > > > > From: Dave McGuire > > > > > > On April 16, John R. Keys Jr. wrote: > > > > UPS delivered my Burroughs tape unit model BU4180 yesterday but it was > > > > destroyed. They must have dropped it from a high place as this thing > > > > weighs in at almost 80 pounds.. > > > > > > I'm wondering how UPS manages to stay in business anymore. I've > > > shipped about four things via UPS in the past year, and EVERY ONE OF > > > THEM arrived damaged to some extent. WTF?? > > > > Meanwhile, I personally have never had a problem with UPS, and with > > the volume of packages coming & going in this building, I've never seen > > anything bad either. Maybe just a moron for a driver? > > He didn't mention whether it was residential or commercial delivery; > with commercial/business dleivery, you usually end up establishing > a relationship with the delivery person; as a result, I think those > guys are more carefully because they're going to have to look you > in the eye. > > OTOH, residential delivery drivers just dump the package > and run... so in that case, I might suspect a delivery person. > > But I've seen videotapes of UPS employees offloading planes, > and with one guy "going long" you can tell how respectful > they are with stuff. And they were being quite jolly about > it, too... > > -dq > I ordered a NIC from a company and it shipped inside a bigger box shipped UPS. One corner of the box was crushed to 50% of its original height. Thankfully the NIC was far from damaged. I should have taken a picture of that box just to show what UPS does. They don't give a *(&* about the packages.

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The CommodoreOne is near!

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: John Chris Wren [mailto:jcwren@jcwren.com] > But then, one thing I have noticed about the list, > besides being an > excellent wealth of information and intelligent people, is > that some don't > know when to let something end. You can count me in that category. I wonder whether it's typical of the kind of person you'd find on this list? As a general observation, technical types tend to push things further than most people appreciate in several cases. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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OT email response format (was Re: TTL computing)

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> > From: Dave McGuire [mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com] > > > So, why don't you use a real mail client...? > > ... because restrictions here are such that they don't mind me > using their pipe for personal things in a limited manner, but > they really hate for people to put any software on their system > (typical windows-using mindset, but let's not get into that :), > and I'm really trying to play by their rules. They have no > real mail client, in fact their installations of lookout(!) are > even more broken than usual. My requirement for mail clients that would be used here at work includes most importantly that they be MAPI-enabled e-mail clients. If you have to ask why, the answer is: our line of business application is a Windows-only application, and we find that by sticking exclusively to Windows-based applications, we achieve a high rate of integration between all our systems, and more importantly, between all our lusers, er, users. The shorter version of that ansnwer is: groupware. I'd be interested in seeing what e-mail clients Dave and others use *THAT ARE MAPI-ENABLED*. Not a criterium for most of you perhaps, but it is for me. -dq -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

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Download CD images for RSX-11 and RT-11 Freeware CDs from Tim Shoppa

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 16, Carlini, Antonio wrote: > > Any reasonably modern BSD-based system should have the md5 > program > >preinstalled. If not, you should be able to find it at > > I think you'll find he's running a much older > version of BSD called W98 : Hmm. Well, that's a problem that's easy to solve. :) -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Mmmm. Big." St. Petersburg, FL -Den

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UPS was Re: Need Burroughs Tape Spec's

by mythtech＠mac.com

> If FedEx dropped their price a little I think more people >would use them vice UPS. I don't do heavy FedEx Ground shipping (although I do heavey FedEx Express shipping, so the discount may carry over, I don't know), but in my limited uses of FedEx Ground, they are between $5 and $25 cheaper than UPS Ground depending on distance, weight, and size. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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The CommodoreOne is near!

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: John Chris Wren [mailto:jcwren@jcwren.com] > Jesus. And people wonder why women have a hard time in the industry. Um, I think this is getting pretty bad. On the other hand, I don't know (nor have I any idea whether anyone does) the target of all of this jest well enough to predict whether she'd have a problem with it. That said -- I will assume that "the industry" is on topic here and continue along those lines for a minute -- I don't know whether this is really an industry specific problem. It strikes me as occurring in many different social settings. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Champaign trip (aka DEC Galore)

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

I took a little trip over to Champaign, IL yesterday (Mon) and met up with fellow list member Chris Smith. Chris: Just to let you know, I made it home, hot & tired, but ok. It was good to meet you and visit for a while. No doubt, Chris spent yesterday evening going through the carload of stuff I took over to him. I'll let him tell about that. Don't let him get away with calling it his 'latest haul', because he didn't, it was 'home delivery'. :) After that I went to a little town about 12 miles southwest of Champaign. It is named Sadorus and has a population of around 400. It just occurred to me, this town probably holds the record for DEC per capita. Anyway, I stopped at a place called C-U Digital. There I found a warehouse, roughly 8,000 sq. ft., filled with nothing but DEC. A summary of what I saw: Stacks of 5000/2xx DECstations, boxes of LK201/401 keyboards, piles of DECserver 90's, several RAxx drives, several StorageWorks cabinets, a mess of RF7x DSSI drives, a few Alpha servers, several RAID cabinets. This is just the short list. I'd go on but I don't want to be the cause of excess drooling. :) Chris: IIRC, they have VT100 keyboards, and a few still in original packing. Kevin Craft, the owner, was away on a fishing trip, so I talked with this brother Keith. It seems they are still doing a good business, supplying die-hard customers with DEC hardware. He related one recent story where a customer wanted to replace a couple dying VR260 monitors, only the customer insisted that they be new units. I did get a few prices and as expected they are a lot higher than what we list members would prefer. IIRC, an RRD42/43 for around $75, or an RF73 for around $50. About the only good price I heard was around $10 for about any DEC drive mounting bracket. Granted I have found them for less than half that, but those deals are getting fewer and farther between. I guess I can't fault these two for the prices, after all, selling DEC is their livelihood. Keith did mention the amounts of stuff setting around that has not sold in years. For example, a pallet full of DELNI's. I brought up the the subject of this mailing list and hobbyists who are always looking for various items. I then mentioned that selling a mess of DELNI's for a few bucks to hobbyists was better than setting on a pallet gathering dust. He went defensive on me, stating that as soon as he does that, he will get a call from a faithful customer wanting dozens of them. Of course that was Keith talking and Kevin is the boss. I know from past dealings that Kevin is a little more receptive to some ideas. I did get an agreement that sounds promising. I know where this a local cache of DEC, removed from service and setting dormant. The place has a habit of letting stuff set for around five years and then just tossing it. Even with that, I can't seem to talk them out of anything now. I suspect that is because 1) I am cheap, 2) I am just some individual who wandered in. I told Keith that I would get an inventory and he can make an offer, and if it goes through I would like a couple of the machines as a finder's fee. He agreed. The big sour note, I recognized some single drive expansion boxes. However, the DEC badge had been replaced with a Compaq. Compaq actually went to the trouble of having the plastic badge inserts remade in their image. Fortunately, I had not yet had lunch. Well, I have rambled enough. If there is a DEC item that you just absolutely, positively have to have regardless of the price then you might want to contact them. Kevin Craft C-U Digital 100 W. Market St. (the main drag thru town) Sadorus, IL 61872 (217) 598-2424 kaccudigital(a)aol.com (Kevin's or Keith's, I don't know which) Mike

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TTL computing

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 16, Richard Erlacher wrote: > Last month, I had to build a programmer for a microcontroller. It required > only three components other than the MCU. There was an oscillator, a MAX232A, > and a 74HCT125. I had no trouble getting a suitable oscillator, and I > generally have a few MAX232's around. It took weeks to find the HCT125, > though, given that I didn't want to pay $10 for shipping of a $.25 part. In > the meantime, I'd built the thing with a GAL16V8. Overkill, well, true, but I > didn't have to deal with the widespread search. Hmm, Mouser has 74HCT125s in stock at $0.40. They're in SO-14 packages, but they've got 'em. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Mmmm. Big." St. Petersburg, FL -Den

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UPS was Re: Need Burroughs Tape Spec's

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 16, r. 'bear' stricklin wrote: > The 'missing packaging' photo is essentially what things looked like when > I opened the box. The rest of the photos detail the damage done. Clearly > this is not the fault of UPS. I couldn't have filed an insurance claim, > and it would've been unreasonable of me to have done so. The entire burden > of the damage was on the bonehead shipper who didn't pack the thing. To > the shipper's credit, he took responsibility and shipped me another one > (again, in an otherwise-empty box (grr!) but which arrived, mercifully, > intact). Hmm, does that vendor have any more of them? :) > The point is, UPS publishes packaging guidelines. Use them and be happy. > > Based on my experience, I'd have to say that your gripes with UPS > destroying packages might better be placed squarely on the inadequate use > of packing materials. My experience has been just the opposite, unfortunately. I rarely if ever receive anything that's been poorly packed, and I nearly always have problems with packages destroyed by UPS. I guess I'm just unlucky. :-/ -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Mmmm. Big." St. Petersburg, FL -Den

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