- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

This is the whole list. The room has to be emptied _today_, so I can bring stuff home with me, if you want to get it later in the day. I'll try to take home any of the smaller unclaimed stuff to store. Again, everything is in unknown, untested condition; as-is. Let me know by around 5:00 pm eastern time... > ---------- > From: David Woyciesjes > > We're cleaning here, and got some stuff being tossed. > > Free, Come pick it up... > > 12 old modems - Gandalf LDS125 (?) > about 12 (?) dozen tape reels. 12" diameter. They're in 4 15" monitor > boxes... -1 box is probably taken... > 2 HP LaserJet IID, with duplex - Taken? > 1 HP LaserJet IIID, w/ duplex - taken? > some long comms(?) cables > Epson line printers > CSU/DSU > -- > And here's more stuff... 2 Topaz Powermaker UPSs 1, maybe 2 Datability Vista terminal servers 1, maybe 2 Delnis Digital DECRepeater 350 DeskJet 500 DeskJet Plus VT220 VT420 Radius 21" (?) monchrome monitor -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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dec Lab Modules

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 00:22:21 -0400 (EDT) > From: Doug Salot <doug(a)blinkenlights.com> > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: dec Lab Modules > In-Reply-To: <200204240417.g3O4HZQ23049(a)shell1.aracnet.com> > > I think he's asking about "laboratory modules" -- the *original* DEC > products from 1957 or so. You snapped the lab modules into a power > backplane (power supply was one of the "DEC Building Blocks") and > connected the logic elements via patch cords. > > The power pins aren't documented in my 1960 dec logic handbook, and they > don't seem to be documented in Bell's "Computer Engineering" either, so I > assume you need to find a "DEC Building Blocks" technical bulletin or > reverse engineer one of the lab modules -- this might help: > > http://www.ulib.org/webRoot/Books/Saving_Bell_Books/Computer_Engineering/00… I have here in my hands a 4-page "Specifications/Prices" sheet that is titled "DEC Digital Test Equipment" and covers the building blocks. But not in enough detail to determin pinouts. It is dated November 1958. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu

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Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 21, Richard Erlacher wrote: > > Most of the software in use in the UNIX world is free. Of course > > there ARE commercial packages, but...with very few exceptions, for > > every commercial package there's at least one free one that does the > > job as well or better. It's possible that I'm preaching to the choir > > here, but one of the common misconceptions that really bugs me is the > > notion that "unix == expensive", when in reality it's just the > > opposite. (The same goes for "pc vs. real computers" in the "I use a > > PC because I can't afford a Sun or an Alpha" case...) > > That's not been my experience. In fact, until LINUX, which I don't presently > use either, I had never seen any software of any use at all other than for > software development for UNIX. (This response is going to sound snotty, but I don't mean it that way) This is likely because you've not been looking in the right places, and have been (ahem) solidly mired in the world of commercial proprietary Windows stuff. > The EDA stuff I saw was not terribly useful, > but some folks managed to beat it into submission. I can't forget the There is a shortage in that area, but there are useful tools. I'm using some of them in another window right now...I'm designing a battery charger for a portable microcontroller-based system in one window and have a PCB layout tool ready to roll in another window. And I have the source code for all of it, even the operating system they're running under. And I paid $0 for the software and maybe $150 for the hardware. One can pay through the nose for functionality. One can even pay list price for all of one's hardware and buy it all brandie-new. It's just not very smart. ;) > tradeshow when I ruled out UNIX in my mind. A vendor had > essentially the same software for DOS and UNIX. The UNIX version > cost 50x what the DOS version cost, and the hardware also cost over > 10x the cost of an adequate PC. The two software packages "looked > and felt" as well as worked, indistinguishably once one was inside > the application. Oh, I don't doubt it for a second...but again you're speaking of commercial software. UNIX and commercial software don't get along very well, because commercial software goes very much against the whole UNIX thing. It's like using a PC as a network server...you *can* do it, but it won't work very well, it's not a very good idea, and you'll look like an idiot in the process. ;) > The FPGA/CPLD vendors would like to support everybody who's likely to use > their products. However, support is a problem under UNIX, since there are > numerous versions (I've had several) that lack compatibility. The size of the > market doesn't justify working up a freeware version for every UNIX version > though, so I think they're wise avoiding the expense. LINUX is getting some > support, though. Writing the software portably eliminates that problem completely. The world of Windows software development completely ignores portability. The common software in the UNIX world doesn't have a "version for every UNIX version". That's just not the way it works. > and, for the most part, the freeware is often better than the commercial > products. I've seen little "source-available" freeware that was very good, > however. The LINUX stuff is a good example. Much of the code sits, full of > ugly hacks and undocumented modifications, among comments relevant only to the > original code that was abandoned six or seven revisions back, though it's not > obvious. It's a wonder any of it works, but it seems it does. It's unlikely > there'll ever be UNIX/GNU freeware that's as useable as the comparable > DOS/Windows stuff, though, since what looks to be the case is that nobody > wants to document the UNIX/GNU freeware. Linux is a mess no matter how you slice it, mostly thrown together by script kiddies with no experience whatsoever...it's a bad idea to judge the entire UNIX world on the cleanliness (or lack thereof) of Linux, because as even the Linux people are fond of pointing out, Linux isn't UNIX. I'm not trying to be argumentative with you, and I respect your experience...please understand that I'm trying to point out that the world of computers is very different from the world of Windows computers...things are, well, just done differently. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Mmmm. Big." St. Petersburg, FL -Den

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Bytesize (was: Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format))

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

I figured it might be IBM as they did some odd things over the years. Another that comes to mind is Interdata (not the 8/32), any one know on that one. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Hans Franke <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, April 22, 2002 9:26 AM Subject: Bytesize (was: Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)) >> 9bits was the byte size for the PDP-10, I believe IBM360 and CDC6600 > >Na, the /360 was a plain 8 Bit/Byte machine, but I think you're >right about the CDC. AFAIR there was a Bull machine using 9 Bit Bytes, >and 18 Bit integers. > >Gruss >H. > >-- >VCF Europa 3.0 am 27./28. April 2002 in Muenchen >http://www.vcfe.org/

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Emulex UC04 SCSI controller for MicroVAX

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Florian Mayer > > Hi folks, > > I've got an Emulex UC04 and would like to use it in my MicroVAX II. Where > can I find documentation for it? > > Greetings from Germany, > > Flori > > Which reminds me. I have an Emulex "UC07/08 distribution panel" sitting on my shelf here. Anybody want it? -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Open source -- non computer topics

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] > Nobody wants to deny or minimize that. Most of us recognize > that he has > become an egotistical, inflexible loon. Thanks Doc. I'm not sure I could have put that any better. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> > > Minis excluded, I guess the TRS-80 ;) > > > Err, graphical web browser ? (Wave on the Cpmmies). > > Actually, I was joking around. That aside, I wouldn't be > surprised at all. Have you seen Tandy's "Deskmate" on the > CoCo? It's not GEOS, but it's pretty nice for the time, > with half decent graphical file management, etc, and runs > over the OS/9 kernel. For the truly devoted, I have a copy of PC-LINK for Deskmate. Copyright 1988 by America Online, Inc. -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

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1961 Vintage Computer Memory Book Item # 2018895703

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2018895703>

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Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format )

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: blacklord [mailto:blacklord@telstra.com] > > Minis excluded, I guess the TRS-80 ;) > Err, graphical web browser ? (Wave on the Cpmmies). Actually, I was joking around. That aside, I wouldn't be surprised at all. Have you seen Tandy's "Deskmate" on the CoCo? It's not GEOS, but it's pretty nice for the time, with half decent graphical file management, etc, and runs over the OS/9 kernel. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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dec Lab Modules

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Do the modules look like they'd plug into a Q-Bus or Unibus backplane? If so they can't be much older than about 35 years old I believe (if that). DEC itself I was started in '58, IIRC. Joe's book might have some of the info you need, there are a whole slew of Logic Handbooks from the late 60's through the late 70's (towards the end they changed the name). Zane > > John, > > This is a hell of a coincidence! I JUST posted the message below to a >fellow CC Lister. The book is dated 1971 so it may not cover what you're >looking for IF your modules are really 45 years old. Unfortunately the >book is really more of a catalog so there's little pin out info except >for some of the flip chip modules. > > > "I found a copy of "Digital Logic Handbook 1971" while cleaning around >here today. Digital as in Digital Equipement Corp. Need it? It seems to >be a data book of modules (M series Logic Modules, W series Special Purpose >Logic Boards, A series Analog modules, Lab Series and K Series Control Logic >modules, etc." > > Joe > > > At 10:46 PM 4/23/02 -0400, you wrote: > >Anyone have information on this product series? > >The 'dec Lab Modules' are 45 years old so on > >topic. What I'm looking for is the pin assignment > >for the backplane (only 5 jacks at this stage) > >All I know is that -15v,+10v,+10v and -3v are > >supposed to go in (I think) but I don't know where. > > > >John A. > > > > > > >

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WordStar (was RE: Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers)

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

By the time WS for Win came out, it was hardly the same company, and certainly not an equivalent program to WS 3.3. The program I use is NewWord, which was written by some of the main WS programmers after they were fired by MicroPro and started their own company to provide a WS for Morrow computers. NW was written in assembly language like the early WS versions. http://www.petrie.u-net.com/wordstar/history/history.htm -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Hellige [mailto:jhellige@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 7:33 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format) >Well, there's always WordStar for Windows or Lotus SmartSuite or >WordPerfect Office. I was always a Wordstar fan, and have a couple of versions here still, but Wordstar for Windows was horrible! Jeff

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Open source -- non computer topics

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Ryan Underwood [mailto:nemesis-lists@icequake.net] > It's not just "garbage". There is a reason for it, that the majority ... and the reason is completely political, which makes it garbage in my book. Not that I mean any disrespect to the Debian people; they have probably the best Linux distribution going, and I recommend it to anyone who asks. > of the Debian community agrees with, or it wouldn't be done. > Plain and I hope that's correct. Since I have probably less exposure to "the Debian community" than you, I'll take your word for it. > simple. I'm sure you are already aware of the reasons, but > reject them. I am aware of the reasons, yes, but not the reasoning. That is, I've heard the arguments, and they make no sense to me. On another note, I'll all for giving recognition to the GNU project, but I find Stallman's demanding it in that form to be tasteless. > What you label "garbage" are the very attributes that many > Debian members > hold dear. Probably exactly why I stay away from "the Debian community," so to speak. > If you don't like Debian, you are free to either attempt to > improve it, > or join the ranks of others who use a different system. It's > a personal > choice. Debian is different for a reason. I have just said several times that it's my favorite Linux distribution, possibly not in so many words. What I don't like are politics. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Merchberger [mailto:zmerch@30below.com] > I came home one day to "I tried deleting this file 'cause I > didn't think I > need it, and it won't let me." IIRC, it was the /lib directory... Well, in fairness to her, it's possible that she didn't need one of the files in the /lib directory ;) Especially Linux distributions are bad about just installing garbage that you don't need and will never use. > ObClassicCmp: Anyone ever get OS-9/68K running on a Palm yet??? :-) Wow, I was just thinking that I might be able to get Mach3 for MIPS running on my palmtop... ;) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Let's make a deal -- attn Richard Erlacher

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

Hey Richard, since you are able to get such great bargains, let's hook up and both make some Big Bucks: > From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> > Of course, I do buy it whenever I see the CD's at the thrift store. Windows > typically costs $2 there. I'll take all you can get (Win 95 and higher) for $10 each. > Office 2K cost $5, last time I saw it. I'll give you $15 each for as many as you can send. > Typically, > a nice ~200 MHz Pentium box with a little (32MB) of RAM and <10GB HDD and a > small (15") monitor, plus the usual keyboard and mouse, costs around $75. $125 plus freight. I could use a couple of dozen of them. Whaddya say? Let's cash in! Glen 0/0

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Cheap tools (was: Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Dwight K. Elvey [mailto:dwightk.elvey@amd.com] > $250.00 set from a good source. The sockets split open, > the Philips screwdriver points rounded and damaged the screws > and the ratchet busted without even using a cheater. > It had a life time guarantee. I found the replacements just > as useless. Worse still, the plating from one of the replacement > sockets peeled up and slashed my hand. Hans is right, windows is just like that. :) > It is better to have tools that don't break or damage > your hardware than to have guaranteed junk. Yep, not to mention that I prefer to deal with more reputable organizations, like the IRS, or the DMV, or the mafia. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Linux handheld

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

REVIEW: ZAURUS HANDHELD DOES MORE THAN LOOK SHARP Sharp Electronics Corp.'s Zaurus SL-5500 marries a flexible, Linux-based operating system with a slick, ingenious hardware design to provide a compelling alternative to Microsoft Corp.'s Pocket PC-based handheld devices. To read the eWEEK Labs review, click here: <http://eletters1.ziffdavis.com/cgi-bin10/flo?y=ePhW0BzN6x0DUm0mWn0Ak>

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Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> > > I find it interesting that the gaming market is one of the > > > main defining markets for current PC hardware...the very market that > > > PC users used to scorn. I've always thought it was stigma that was > > > unfairly applied to the Amiga, even if it was better at it than the > > > PC's of the same time period. > > > > Good point -- name something that the Amiga didn't do better... > > > > The Amiga was doing "desktop publishing" *before* the term > was coined! In what year do you place this revisionist history? People were casually using the term "Desktop Publishing" in 1985, the year the Commodore Amiga A1000 was launched... Regards, -dq

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Calculating VUP values

by Huw.Davies＠kerberos.davies.net.au

At 07:29 AM 23/04/2002 -0700, Carlini, Antonio wrote: >It's amazing DEC went to such >bother calculating VUPs by running >a set of real benchmarks on a finely >tuned system and then reporting a >measure based on some weighted >sum when this procedure would have saved >**sooo** much effort: I didn't expect the command procedure to be as good as the real benchmarks but given that the benchmarks are hardly likely to be available for end users I was just interested to see if this command procedure was of any use. At least you can run it on any VMS box. >According to this proc, the machines >I can reach right now report: > >VAXstation 4000-90A: 26.0 bogoVUPs (should be 32+ VUPs) >VAX 4000-700A: 30.8 bogoVUPs (should be ~40 VUPs) >VAX 4000-705A: 34.4 bogoVUPs (should be ~45 VUPs) >Alpha 2100 4/200: 35.2 bogoVUPs >Takara (EV56@500MHz): 87.2 bogoVUPs Well it's in the ball park, though it looks like it's giving only about 75% of the accepted VUP rating. Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)kerberos.davies.net.au | "If God had wanted soccer played in the | air, the sky would be painted green"

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Windows V1.0

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> > I don't recall any "Windows 2.0", but rather Windows 286 and Windows > 386. The floppies said Windows 286, but the box said Windows 2.0... -Douglas Hurst Quebbeman (DougQ at ixnayamspayIgLou.com) [Call me "Doug"] Surgically excise the pig-latin from my e-mail address in order to reply "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits

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Emulex UC04 SCSI controller for MicroVAX

by flori_m＠gmx.net

Hi folks, I've got an Emulex UC04 and would like to use it in my MicroVAX II. Where can I find documentation for it? Greetings from Germany, Flori

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Futuredata System

by flori_m＠gmx.net

Hi, I've got an old FutureData 2300 System. It has an 8085 CPU and two 8 Inch floppy drives. What is it? What is it good for? What operating systems run on it? Where can I find Software/Manuals/... Would also trade it with an SMD Controller for my MicroVAX II Greetings from Germany, Flori

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Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)

by blacklord＠telstra.com

Hi Dick, > > Good point -- name something that the Amiga didn't do better... > > > > Chris > > > Survive ... that's something it didn't do better. > Still alive, kickin' & new machines are about to be released :-) cheers, Lance ---------------- Powered by telstra.com

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Apple //e card

by pat＠cart-server.purdueriots.com

I've got an ALS Z-Card for my Apple //e, and was wondering if anyone had CP/M or MP/M for it. Any info on it would be greatly appreciated. I've tried using google, but haven't really found anything of much use. Also, has anyone tried making a 'soft disk' using SRAMs or an EPROM? I've now got a bunch of EPROMs that would be nice to be able to dump a 'disk image' that I could perhaps boot off of onto them. Any ideas from anyone on this? OR... perhaps something I could use a PC to emulate the disk... just throwing some ideas out there. It'd be nice if it emulated the Disk ][ card so that I could use it as a drop in replacement - is there any easily accessible docs for that? -- Pat

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New Museum Finds for the Week

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> 1. Tandy Portable wordprocessor WP-2 with the manual. I bought one of these New on closeout, boy what a waste of money since I've never really used it. I've even got the cassette recorder and cable to hook it up. > 2. A AlphaSmart Pro wordprocessor like the WP-2 except it links up to > PC's, Mac's and IIGS's using cables. Actually the WP-2 should link up with anything with a serial port, if it's got a comm program with the right protocol. I did this once, it was a royal pain as I recall. Zane

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Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)

by blacklord＠telstra.com

Hi Chris, > The VAX. :) (You did say all machines) Unfair! Not the same class! > > Minis excluded, I guess the TRS-80 ;) Err, graphical web browser ? (Wave on the Cpmmies). cheers. Lance ---------------- Powered by telstra.com

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New Museum Finds for the Week

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

1. Tandy Portable wordprocessor WP-2 with the manual. 2. A AlphaSmart Pro wordprocessor like the WP-2 except it links up to PC's, Mac's and IIGS's using cables. 3. Panasonic/REAL game console with about 8 or 9 games for it at $1.99 per game. Works great. 4. Sun type 4 and 5 keyboards (1 each) with mice. 5. always technology AL-1000 high performance parallel port SCSI adapter. 6. One of those tan Apple carryon bags for the early all-in-one Mac's for $2.99. (They go for $30 to $60 on eBay) 7. Lots of other items that are too new to put out on here yet.

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Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:edick@idcomm.com] > You may be onto something, but the use of bombastic > descriptors such as > "brain-damaged" suggest you really don't know what goes on in > big companies, Actually, I would argue that the term "brain-damaged" describes more than adequately what goes on in large companies, and most small ones. I would argue that, but I'm tired of arguing... > and have lost sight of the fact that not all people are the > brightest bulbs It's a hard fact to miss. > ... just look at our Chief Executive ... even his Papa, who > was considerably > more articluate than he is, though not a dimwit, was not > terribly clever. If you're talking about the US's president, I'm not sure I can agree with your classification of "not a dimwit" for him -- or his father, or any other politician I can think of... I'm sure there are one or two who aren't idiots; I just can't think of any. > more below ... Indeed... > > average person can watch them and make use of their vocaublary by > > utter such wise words as "duh, footbawl!" > Keep in mind that they're the majority of the user base. Again, that's difficult to miss. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Altos 580 and CP/M-MP/M Again.

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

After a long DEC-inflicted delay, I finally found time to replace the Altos' CMI doorstop with a 20MB Seagate ST225. The ST225 formats fine in the Diags and passes all read/write/seek tests, but neither CP/M nor MP/M, booting from floppy, are able to access the drive. I'm fairly sure I'm missing a critical step, like partitioning and making a filesystem, but there's a double hitch. I know nothing about CP/M _and_ nothing about the Altos. Online info is non-existent for the 580 and bewilderingly abundant for CP/M. I'm soliciting "favorite CP/M tutorial" recommendations, as well as a Cx4 for reading the HDD from the OS. Doc

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Shiva Fastpath files and documentation

by nemesis-lists＠icequake.net

Hi, I've posted an archive of files and documentation for the Shiva Fastpath series of Localtalk to Ethernet routers here: http://dbz.icequake.net/oldskool/fastpath/ Hope it helps someone. I remember corresponding with Ethan about this quite a while back; don't remember if you found this stuff yet. In any case, here it is! -- Ryan Underwood, <nemesis at icequake.net>, icq=10317253

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Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Hellige [mailto:jhellige@earthlink.net] > I find it interesting that the gaming market is one of the > main defining markets for current PC hardware...the very market that > PC users used to scorn. I've always thought it was stigma that was > unfairly applied to the Amiga, even if it was better at it than the > PC's of the same time period. Good point -- name something that the Amiga didn't do better... Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)

by dquebbeman＠acm.org

> On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Torquil MacCorkle III wrote: > > > But, Weren't you impressed with his use of the word 'moonified'? It's like > > he wrote the nonsensical rant with a thesaraus to sound smart. > > > > Yes. moonified threw me for awhile... > > kinda reminds me of some spell checker that we once > used that suggested broccoli as a replacement for Berkeley... Can you say "obg"? Either Enlzbaq is a ebobg, or he has a obg working for him... -dq

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3.5" floppy drive specs?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Does anyone have a handy list of drive specs for the various 3.5" floppy drives that they can post? I need to find a couple of old 720k drives but I don't know what part numbers to look for. Joe

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TFE - C64 Ethernet Cartridge (fwd)

by bpope＠wordstock.com

> > We are proud to announce that we have designed and implemented a fully > working Ethernet adapter for the Commodore 64. We call our design TFE > - The Final Ethernet (a pun on the name of the TFC :-). It consists of the > Embedded Ethernet board from Systor Vest AS > (http://www.embeddedethernet.com/) and a single 74LS139 decoder chip > mounted on a custom made printed circuit board. > > To show off our card, we have connected a TFE-equipped C64 to the > Internet. It is running the uIP TCP/IP stack > (http://dunkels.com/adam/uip/) including the web server as well as a > real-time streaming audio server that streams audio sampled from the > Datasette player. It can be reached at http://tfe.c64.org/. > > More information, including pictures of the cartridge, PCB layouts, > and source code can be found at http://dunkels.com/adam/tfe/. > > Note that this is not the same Ethernet adapter that Bo Zimmerman > talked about a few weeks ago. > > Adam Dunkels and Peter Eliasson > April 12, 2002 > > -- > Adam Dunkels <adam(a)sics.se> > http://www.sics.se/~adam > > Message was sent through the cbm-hackers mailing list > Like, this is too COOL!!!!!! Bryan

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suggestions on BBC Micro, voltage converter, PAL monitor (in US)?

by nemesis-lists＠icequake.net

Tony Duell wrote: > At last a message that's not part of a flamewar involving Richard > Erlacher.... Maybe we should create a separate list for flamewars. You've got to admit, the OT traffic is interesting at times. -- Ryan Underwood, <nemesis at icequake.net>, icq=10317253

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AS/400s in the Champaign area

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Russ Blakeman [mailto:rhb57@vol.com] > Remote dial-in access via an external modem should also be > available besides > terminals (twinax and 5250 emulators) as well as ethernet, > TR, etc - all in > the adapters added to it. You're right. It even came with the 2400bps modem ;) -- and at least one twinax block. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: blacklord [mailto:blacklord@telstra.com] > Indeed, out of all the machines then in production, which one > still in > use now is still capable of (more or less) doing what modern machines > can ? The VAX. :) (You did say all machines) Minis excluded, I guess the TRS-80 ;) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Open source -- non computer topics

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Franchuk [mailto:bfranchuk@jetnet.ab.ca] > And they all look like 95 to me. I use debian linux ... Red hat has They do, don't they? Well, default configured Enlightenment/Gnome and KDE anyway. That's creativity for you ;) Debian's nice, but it has its share of "political" garbage too, like the "GNU/Linux" plastered all over the place, or the fact that they insist on keeping "non-free" software separate. NetBSD is kind of nice (not spotless), as far as politics go. > too much political -- me is right and I am the only way -- > Also debian is the only version you can upgrade with a modem. Well, strictly speaking, depending on the amount of work you'd like to put into it, you can upgrade anything with a modem. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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FA: Interesting AIM-65

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

See <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2018077250> Joe

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Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: John Foust [mailto:jfoust@threedee.com] > >Good point -- name something that the Amiga didn't do better... > Keep software and hardware developers alive and in business? Ok, so you have a point there. I was thinking in terms of actual computing work. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 02:08 PM 4/23/2002 -0500, Christopher Smith wrote: >I've always thought it was stigma that was >> unfairly applied to the Amiga, even if it was better at it than the >> PC's of the same time period. > >Good point -- name something that the Amiga didn't do better... Keep software and hardware developers alive and in business? Whoops, sorry, just a little ex-Amiga developer humor there. - John

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Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

For some time now, the gaming console market has been where the real technological advances in consumer/PC computers have been made. Most PC users in the business world could get along just fine with a '386 if the OS and software weren't so bloated now. Bob (who is still trying in vain to get MS WinWord to behave and who uses a WordStar clone on the HP palmtop he carries) -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Hellige [mailto:jhellige@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 1:44 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format) <snip> I find it interesting that the gaming market is one of the main defining markets for current PC hardware...the very market that PC users used to scorn. I've always thought it was stigma that was unfairly applied to the Amiga, even if it was better at it than the PC's of the same time period. Jeff

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Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Bring on the kiddie porn! Is that $15k offer for nude pics still open? Oh, wait, you said Kiddie, I thought you said Kitty... figured I could shave my wife's cat for you (man... THAT is wide open!) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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suggestions on BBC Micro, voltage converter, PAL monitor (in US)?

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>You could buy a 110-220 step-up transformer, and that usually has the >european two prong plug built in. I myself would see if the power >supply has a split primary for the mains power; then rewire/flip the >switch for 110 operation and just use a US style power cord. No doubt you can get a suitable two-prong plug with an IEC on the other end of the lead, but in the UK (and the beeb is, after all, a UK box) the standard plugs are three-pin. >Monitor: If it is an RGB with seperate outputs, the NTSC/PAL question >is moot. I know that US RGB monitors for the Amiga will sync to PAL >rates (625 lines, 50Hz) with no problems. The conflict arises only when >the video is composite, as the color information is encoded >differently. I have seen small converters for sale, that change PAL >video to NTSC and vice versa. I've never seen how good/bad they work, >but that is a viable alternative, if your only output is composite >video. A small cub monitor cannot be much harder to ship than a beeb can it? The real problem is possibly going to be the 50Hz/60Hz issue. I know that in the lab (in the UK) we used to have a 110/120V 60Hz supply specifically for the oddball US kit we used to end up with, but that was (IIRC) done with something a little beefier than a stepup transformer. The small (but very, very) heavy step down transformer we also had, did nothing to convert the frequency (not a problem if all you want is juice, but if anything is trying to generate an approximate clock from the line frequencey ....) Antonio

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Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Chris > > >Bring on the kiddie porn! > > Is that $15k offer for nude pics still open? > > Oh, wait, you said Kiddie, I thought you said Kitty... figured I could > shave my wife's cat for you (man... THAT is wide open!) > > -chris > Ah, uh, err... Damnit! You know, I had a nifty comment, but I forgot it... I must say though, it would be interesting to see your wife's shaved pussy...cat. Sorry, couldn't resist that one... ;) -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: R. D. Davis [mailto:rdd@rddavis.org] > > and I'm really trying to play by their rules. They have no > Why play by their rules? The more who do, the worse the problem will > become for all of us. Let the biz'droid lusers know that their > software is broken and that they need to pay an appropriate > professional to fix their minds as well. Indeed I would tell them if they would listen to me. As it is, I have agreed to follow their rules, and will have to do that until they make more sane rules. In other words, when I took their job, I gave them my word. I don't believe I can count on them to fix these problems on my account. After all, they don't impair my work -- all of our clients use this junk too. (Sad, but what can you do about it?) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 21, Richard Erlacher wrote: > Friendlier OS' (e.g. Windows) have equivalent tools that are less onerous in > the demands they place on the user. Just ask the typical programmer what a > "regular expression" is. Better yet, give him a task requiring the use of Umm, a programmer that doesn't know what a regular expression is, is no programmer at all. Has Microsoft really steered us toward a future full of nontechnical computer programmers? -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Mmmm. Big." St. Petersburg, FL -Den

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Micro$oft Biz'droid Lusers (was: OT email response format)

by mythtech＠mac.com

>That's what normally >happens to MAC's. It's not unusual to see several MAC's in the dumpster. They throw out network card addresses? But then how does the cable company ID their modem users? -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Maybe OT, but quite funny

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Hans Franke > > Pleas check the following site: > http://members.truepath.com/objective/propaganda.html > it is a incredible slow server. It_looks_ like some > fundamental christian group, but what is presented as > truth about Apple OSx, is so far reaching, that it could > be also a parody of christian hate mongers. > > Hard to describe, but they draw a line from the fact that > the development name for the OS X Kernel is Darwin over the > usage of Daemons and the BSD icon to conclude that Apple > is a satanistic and pagan company ... or something like > that. So overdone that's realy funny again. > > chmod 666 the ultimat signe of satanic influence. > > Gruss > H. > > -- > Nah, I think this guy really is a genuine dumbass! Wait! I must be satan-spawn! I use OS X, and I like it! -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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3.5" floppy drive specs?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

>From my CSC Hard Drive Bible 7 look for Fujitsu 2532 Toshiba FD4603 YE Data 646 Paxton Astoria, OR

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Apple-1 Auction conclusion

by mythtech＠mac.com

>> Not exactly, but if you send me $15K, I'll send it to you. > >$15K for a picture? Will it include nude girls in the background? For $15k, I'll send you a pic of nude anything you want -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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