- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by mythtech＠mac.com

I know Jay said he isn't going to touch this until the new server settles down and the kinks are worked out... and that is fine... but I figured I would mention it as a mental note for when he can get the chance to look into things. BAD side effect to the subject preface... sorting by subject no longer works properly (at least not here, Claris Emailer 2.0v3, but I suspect others as well). Based on where the responding person's email client sticks the Re:, and based on if it has double prefaces, the subject will be sorted in different places. As a result, yesterday and today's posts have been listing all out of order. That makes it much harder to follow a thread, and near impossible to delete a topic in bulk that doesn't interest you. So just food for thought, and my vote to remove the subject preface entirely (at least the list server inserted one... manually inserting OT or WTB, or FS or whatever for certain postings isn't really a problem) Of course, this should really go private to Jay, but I can't find his addy right now (I am sure I will spot it right after sending this) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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[CCTALK] In a bind-need ROMs for IBM laser printer

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: I'm in a bit of a bind. I need a set of ROMs for the IBM 4019-E01 laser printer. I need to uninstall the PostScript option, which requires reinstalling 4 ROMs. Lexmark parts carries the U25/U26 ROMs but not the U27/U28 ROMs, so I would have to order a new controller board for lots of $$$. If someone has this printer and can copy these ROMs for me, I'd greatly appreciate it. Alternatively, I'd take a controller board from a non-working 4019. Please contact me off-list. Thanks. Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile)

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[CCTALK] First SGI Workstations?

by aek＠spies.com

> I am wondering what the first SGI workstation was There should be an SGI hardware FAQ that I contributed some info to on the web that shows the early products. The first Unix products were based on the SUN 68000 design and ran a swapping Unix (1400 series) Later 2000 and 3000 series Irises ran with paging and 68010'a and 020's The 68000 based machines did not have a directly addressable frame buffer, and the original IRIS display didn't really do bitblts very well, making it great for visualization, but pretty poor as a windowing workstation. There were a few diskless products that could be netbooted and used as terminals in the 1000 series, but I'm not sure what software they ran (I suspect it was some variant of the Stanford V kernel)

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[CCTALK] RE: scanners & circuit boards..

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

> Glass is opaque to UV so you won't erase EPROMs either. EPROMs don't have UV-opaque glass windows, .. Scanners do though. Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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[CCTALK] Re: Keycap cleaning strategy

by dougq＠iglou.com

> They don't scratch. And no reasonable keyboard has the lettering put on in > such a way that it would rub off in a washing machine. If that were the > case, the legending would rub off in normal use. Nearly all decent keys > are two-part moulded. The best keyboards are... but some use silkscreening, and worse, all the laptops I've seen in the last few years except for perhaps the iBook abd the PowerBook (I'll check the Powerbook when I get home) use decals... and yes, they sure do rub off from normal use. Now, if lusers would wash the grease of their hands a few times each day, those decals would stay in place a little longer... -dq

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[CCTALK] RE: transistor counts again"

by dougq＠iglou.com

> > I find that hard to believe. The 4004 was part of a chipset containing > > the 4001 (ROM), 4002 (RAM) and 4003 (I forget exactly what, some kind of > > I/O?). The 4001 and 4002 parts were used in lots of 4004 or 4040-based > > designs. > > And according to Ted Hoff, it was quite by accident that it ended up with > part number 4004. Coincidence and all. Most companies that manufacture stuff just choose a starting number for what they anticipate might be a series of things. Then they just add one. Some of you might remeber a YES album from the 80s titled '90125'... the title wasn't known in advance, as they'd decided the title would simply be the same as the Atlantic Records serial number that would end up being assigned to that album once it was finally scheduled for manufacture. Additionally, that decision came at a time when the band wasn't called YES< but CINEMA, but that's veering way OT. Anyway, eventually, either marketing comes in with their own ideas about numbers, or the lawyers do: The Intel iAPX286 microprocessor had the part number 80286, by which it was more colloquially known. The Intel iAPX386, a chip for which I have the "confidential" pre- liminary specifications, would have had the part number 80386. But in a successful effort to wiggle out of the technology- swapping agreement they had with AMD, they decided not to produce the iAPX386. Instead, they produced the 80386, which also "coincidently" had the part number 80386. FWIW, the iAPX386 specification did not include the virtual 8086 mode that was present in the 80386. I always wonder what amazing things might have been put on that silicon instead of V8086 mode. Yes, V8086 mode is very useful for PeeCees, but of little use for modern, non-DOS-related operating systems. -dq

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[CCTALK] Test post and DEC Unix question

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

--- Rick Murphy <rmurphy(a)itm-inst.com> wrote: > At 03:49 PM 5/14/02 -0700, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > >I'm trying to break into (my own) DEC Alpha running Digital Unix V3.2... > Use: > >>> b -flags 0,1 dkc0 Why the 0? I did this (Thanks, Doc!) >>> b dkc0 -flags 1 ... and I got in just fine. > Once you're in single-user mode, "mount -r /" to remount the root... Right. I know what to do once I'm in. The only thing that threw me about Digital Unix vs other stuff I've used is that if you _don't_ use vipw to edit the passwd file, you have to manually run mkpasswd to update the hashed password file (I'm used to a shadow file, or, for older stuff, _just_ the /etc/passwd file and nothing else). > ...mount -a to get everything mounted... In my experience, if you intend to go from single-user mode to multi-user (i.e., you don't reboot from single-user), it's safest to not leave anything mounted that isn't mounted when you got your prompt. I'm not saying this is the case for Digital Unix, but for older BSDish stuff I used in the past, if you, say, mounted /usr/home while in single user mode, then ^D to exit your shell and allow the system to start up, but haven't unmounted /usr/home first, the startup scripts complain about a busy mount point or some other complaint. I always leave the system the way I found it, which is / mounted read-only, everything else unmounted. What you suggest might work these days, but I cut my teeth on 4.0BSD and Ultrix 1.1. This is just my first experience with Digital Unix on an Alpha. Still curious about the "0" in your sample line, though. Thanks for the tip, -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com

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[CCTALK] Sol computer emulator, Solace, updated to version 3.1

by frustum＠pacbell.net

I've just updated my Sol-20 web site with the latest version of my emulator for the Sol, Solace. Solace runs only under win32 OS's (or OS's that can emulate a win32 system, such as Wine under Linux or SoftPC on the Mac). Here's a link to the Sol Archive: http://www.thebattles.net/sol20/sol.html Follow the links to get to the emulator, which is now at version 3.1. Source code is included. What's new since 3.1? + emulation of sound for the P.T. Music System software + sound effects. Just as irritating as a real Sol. Idea from Bob Stek. + support for source-level assembly language debugging in the built-in debugger. + in the debugger, there is now a splitter bar that lets you decide how much of the screen is used for disassembly vs command history. + a few bug fixes, including suppressing the annoying bell sound every time a command was entered into the debugger. ----- Jim Battle == frustum(a)pacbell.net

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[CCTALK] HD repair techniques?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Tothwolf [mailto:tothwolf@concentric.net] > The drives are both a Conner CFS1275A, 1.2GB, 3 platters, 6 > surfaces. I'm > starting to suspect the top surface of the upper platter is the servo > surface, due to the behavior of the drive when it failed. Can anyone > confirm if this is the case, or if these type of drive even > use a servo I don't know much about the drive, but I think I may have another spare floating around (dead, of course, but it's been years, and I can't tell you the mode of failure). Let me know if you need more parts, and I'll check. > surface? The 1275A doesn't quite yet meet the 10 year rule, > but with all > the experts here, I figure someone is bound to know more about these > drives then I currently do. I think I took the brunt of the assault with my car post, don't worry ;) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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[CCTALK] List confusion? (was TRS-80 Model 1)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> > Err, you're right. This new list is too confusing. Hmm, the idea as I understood it was pretty simple. cctalk gets everything, cctech has the OTs filtered out. Right? Glen 0/0

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[CCTALK] Re: Keycap cleaning strategy

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> wrote: > When cleaning keycaps on real IBM PC keyboards (5150), all of the keys > EXCEPT the space bar pop off easily. But if you remove the space bar, > than reassembly of the space bar is more work than the combined total of > the other keys. The OmniKey's space bar is a bit more difficult to take off and reattach too. So when reassembling, do the big keys with supporting widgetry first. You may find it helps to do this before putting the keyboard back in its shell too, especially for the space bar which is right up against the shell. -Frank McConnell

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[CCTALK] [CCTECH] Keycap cleaning strategy

by lists＠subatomix.com

I'm going to clean a Sun 3 keyboard today. Its keycaps are filthy. The strategy I've used in the past for the keycaps is: * Goto the kitchen. There is a double sink there. * Fill one sink with hot, soapy water and the other will cold, non-soapy water. * Dump the keycaps into the hot sink and let them soak for a while. * Slosh the keycaps around a bit. * Transfer the keycaps to the cold water. If necessary, wipe grime from each one as it is transferred. * Arrange the keycaps for drying. Dry them with a hair dryer. * Test for dryness by tapping a table with a keycap. If any water drops appear on the table, repeat the previous step. I have a dishwasher, but I don't trust it. -- Jeffrey Sharp The email address lists(a)subatomix.com is for mailing list traffic. Please send off-list mail to roach jay ess ess at wasp subatomix beetle dot com. You may need to remove some bugs first. _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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[CCTALK] transistor counts again

by bfranchuk＠jetnet.ab.ca

Looking for information on 16x4 ram (74F219), I came across the the discussion of how many transistors are in a 6502. Did anybody ever get a answer to that? A simple 16 bit cpu like the the toy/2 runs at about 3300 transitors. A a simple stack machine about 3500???. Does anybody have the transistor count for the PDP-8 chip 6100? or the forgotton PACE-16 cpu by national. The SCAMP and PACE chips don't seem to have a web page up anywhere on the web! -- Ben Franchuk - Dawn * 12/24 bit cpu * www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html

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[CCTALK] scanners & circuit boards...

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Two factors here. One is that the scanner doesn't have a lot of the right wave length light. Two is that even a piece of paper will absorb +99% of any of the UV that would erase it. As long as there is something over the windows ( almost anything ), I wouldn't worry. When I was at Intel, we placed some 1702A's in direct sun light for several weeks without data loss. A few seconds in a scanner would most likely have little effect. If you are concerned, put some black electrical tape over any windows. If you don't believe that will block the light try doing it on a separate EPROM and put it under an eraser light ( you'll see what I mean when I say that even a piece of paper is quite effective, even in a strong UV light ). >From: "Richard Erlacher" <edick(a)idcomm.com> > >So long as you cover the windows of any UV-eraseable parts with somethng truly >opaque, e.g. a bit of aluminum foil under some cellophane tape,I think you'll >be OK, Jeff. > >Dick > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jeff Hellige" <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> >To: <cctech(a)classiccmp.org> >Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:09 PM >Subject: [CCTALK] [CCTECH] scanners & circuit boards... > > >> What's everyone's thoughts on placing circuit boards directly >> on the bed of a scanner for imaging? Any possibility of damage to >> the board from the light or other parts of the scanner? I've done it >> before with good results but not with anything truly unique. >> >> Jeff >> -- >> Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File >> http://www.cchaven.com >> http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757 >> _______________________________________________ >> cctech mailing list >> cctech(a)classiccmp.org >> http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech >> _______________________________________________ >> cctalk mailing list >> cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >> http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >cctalk mailing list >cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk >

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[CCTALK] [CCTECH] Orlando junkfest, anybody want a Sony MO drive?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I have a Sony SMO_D501 MO drive with the separate C501 controller card all mounted in a case with PS. Does anyone that's coming to the junkfest want it? If I don't hear from a taker by morning it's going in the trash. Joe _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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[CCTALK] Re: Subject Lines

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> wrote: > Can the [CCTALK] & [CCTECH] be shortened to something that does't take up > most of the the viewable subject line? I read most CLASSICCMP mail via Yesterday I sent Jay e-mail about subject tags and footers, and he wrote back that he'd look at them when he got a chance. -Frank McConnell

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[CCTALK] HD repair techniques?

by tothwolf＠concentric.net

Well, today I lost the first drive in years due to a head crash. The data it contained wasn't extremely important, since I can reconstruct it given time, but sadly, I didn't have a listing of the drive's contents. After getting the air reasonable clean in a makeshift clean-room, I took a look at the platters, and found the topmost surface of the upper platter is the one that took damage. (If I decide to do any serious work on the drive, I'll have to build a clean-box...) I'd like to get the drive to a state where I can at least get a directory listing, but the data it contained isn't worth what it would cost to send it off for 'professional' recovery, especially since those shops tend to charge a small fortune for Linux e2fs formatted drives. I have another drive that is identical to the one that failed, so I have donor parts to repair it with. The second drive has a bad head, but it affects one of the lower platters. I've never had to replace a head before, so I'm looking for advice, or even a step by step guide to replacing it. The drives are both a Conner CFS1275A, 1.2GB, 3 platters, 6 surfaces. I'm starting to suspect the top surface of the upper platter is the servo surface, due to the behavior of the drive when it failed. Can anyone confirm if this is the case, or if these type of drive even use a servo surface? The 1275A doesn't quite yet meet the 10 year rule, but with all the experts here, I figure someone is bound to know more about these drives then I currently do. -Toth

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[CCTALK] RE: [CCTECH] TRS-80 Model 1

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Sellam Ismail > > ... > > Note: As a benefit to those here on the cctech side of the list who value > topical messages, I am only sending these many referrals I receive every > month to cctech. > ...... > > -- > Ummm, aren't all cctech messages supposed to automatically get sent to cctalk also? If so, then that 'benefit' wouldn't exactly work they way you intend, Sellam... -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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[CCTALK] Subject Lines

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> > Can the [CCTALK] & [CCTECH] be shortened to something that does't > > take up most of the the viewable subject line? > > I'd like to vote to get rid of them altogether. I'm quite capable of > filtering list mail into folders without them. I would agree. On my Mac I had filters setup to deal with CLASSICCMP, and under 'elm', the long subject lines are a nightmare. Zane

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[CCTALK] [larrys@lexis-nexis.com: [rescue] Excellent news]

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

FYI, about ftp.digital.com... ----- Forwarded message from Larry Snyder <larrys(a)lexis-nexis.com> ----- From: Larry Snyder <larrys(a)lexis-nexis.com> To: rescue(a)sunhelp.org Subject: [rescue] Excellent news Reply-To: rescue(a)sunhelp.org Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 17:44:47 -0400 (EDT) I lifted this shamelessly from another list.... -ls- > From: Paul Vixie > Subject: Re: Off-Topic: Goodbye to ftp.digital.com? > > I have just communicated with the operators of gatekeeper.dec.com (with > whom ftp.isc.org shares a cage at PAIX) and was told two things. > > 1. HP plans to fully support gatekeeper (now that the merger is done), > and has approved a 1-Terabyte expansion to its disk storage subsystem; > > 2. ftp.digital.com is no longer the same computer as gatekeeper.dec.com, > it's a machine on the east coast somewhere. > > I've asked whether there's any problems looming for ftp.digital.com, and > I'll report back here if I hear anything. but gatekeeper.dec.com (which > I had a hand in creating back during my 1998-1993 stint at dec.com) is > absolutely safe from harm. _______________________________________________ rescue list - http://www.sunhelp.org/mailman/listinfo/rescue ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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[CCTALK] Re: [CCTECH] test

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Dammed quite list! I haven't gotten anything from it except the test messages. Joe At 10:11 AM 5/15/02 -0400, Jeff wrote: >> Steve wrote: I sent a test yesterday but, it was refused. Said I wasn't on the >>list. Wonder if this one will go through? > > Came through fine > > _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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[CCTALK] Re: [CCTECH] Keycap cleaning strategy

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 15, 14:11, <pdp11(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > I'm going to clean a Sun 3 keyboard today. Its keycaps are filthy. The > > strategy I've used in the past for the keycaps is: [...] > > I have a dishwasher, but I don't trust it. > > I've had pretty good luck cleaning the caps on Sun keyboards without removing them. By using a good quality commercial spray cleaner sprayed on a cloth, you can get them looking almost like new. If they were really bad, I could see taking them off and soaking them. > > The dishwasher would be a bad idea. You could easily end up with a bunch of little bits of melted plastic and a broken dishwasher. I've done it with a bowl of warm water and the sort of low-foam detergent used for cleaning floors, then a rinse. I've also done it with the sort of spray cleaner used for kitchen worktops. Either way, many of the caps usually need some rubbing with a cloth or fingers -- if they're dirty enough to need cleaned, they need some help. I often add a little water-based furniture polish at the end to help give them a nice sheen I wouldn't use a dishwasher. The water temperature isn't a problem, but the caps are just too small and light to stay where you put them, and if one falls beside the heating element, it will be destroyed. If I'm *really* lazy, I tie them up in a pillowcase and put them in the (clothes) washing machine, and follow up with the tumble drier. No.1 tip: make a note of the layout before you take the keycaps off. It all looks very logical until you actually try to put *every one* of the symbol keys back in the right place. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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"[CCTALK] CPU temperature monitoring

by dougq＠iglou.com

> I'm sure that most of you are aware that many of the newer > Intel and clone processors are real heat generators and that > it's critical to keep them with specified temperature limits. > I downloaded and installed a CPU and motherboard temperture > monitoring program called MotherBoard Monitor. My question > is how accurate are these types of programs? On CPU intensive > task my CPU frequently pegs out the temperature gauge in the > MBM but the BIOS temperature monitoring never shows any > indication of overheating. There is a calibration procedure you can go through, it's all in the documentation... -dq

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[CCTALK] CPU temperature monitoring

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I'm sure that most of you are aware that many of the newer Intel and clone processors are real heat generators and that it's critical to keep them with specified temperature limits. I downloaded and installed a CPU and motherboard temperture monitoring program called MotherBoard Monitor. My question is how accurate are these types of programs? On CPU intensive task my CPU frequently pegs out the temperature gauge in the MBM but the BIOS temperature monitoring never shows any indication of overheating. Joe

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[CCTALK] delays in posting

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Most people aren't seeing delays in postings appearing on the list, but some are... here's why... You have to put from the exact email address that you are subscribed with. If you mail server is munging that for some reason, the posts are considered to be from non-subscribers and I have to manually approve them, hence the delay. More to the point, I'm getting a few list members posts for moderation every time, because they apparently have a problem with the BCC or CC fields. I am not sure what's going on with that, but it only affects certain list members. Until I get some time (later today or tomorrow perhaps) to dig into exactly why that happens, those users posts will be slow because I have to approve them. I do check for posts needing approval VERY frequently during the day and night, but with the current workload still working on the list setup, this isn't probably quite as frequent as those affected list members might like. I'm trying! Jay West

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[CCTALK] [CCTECH] test not to [CCTALK]

by dougq＠iglou.com

Your test received here on CCTALK a-ok, intended or not... -dq

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[CCTALK] Re: scanners & circuit boards...

by dougq＠iglou.com

> What's everyone's thoughts on placing circuit boards directly > on the bed of a scanner for imaging? Any possibility of damage to > the board from the light or other parts of the scanner? I've done it > before with good results but not with anything truly unique. I've only done it once, with an unpopulated 8051 controller board I'd bought a few of from some guy's widow... I tried to buy the rights, but she wanted too much. I like the controller and when I run out (two more left, I think), I'll re-do the art. Not for commercial use, of course, and I may send the widow some bucks anyhow... -dq

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[CCTALK] RE: [CCTECH] test not to [CCTALK]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Jay, or some other list admin here... Is the delay, of messages from cctech getting posted to cctalk, intentional? Okay, after that downpour of cross-posts... the delay is shorter. I assume that's due to server processing? Just curious... -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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[CCTALK] [OT] Emabrgoed Domains

by mtapley＠swri.edu

</MODE=SMART_ASS> >From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> ^^^^^^^^^ >I understand the sentiment, but that hoses me. I work for one of those >guys (I'm not admitting which one here - company policy)... Ummm.... </MODE=NORMAL> Glad swri.edu wasn't on the embargoed list. I couldn't understand the punch through instructions. Is it easy to embargo countries vs. domains? - Mark

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[CCTALK] Re: [CCTECH] scanners & circuit boards...

by pdp11＠bellsouth.net

> What's everyone's thoughts on placing circuit boards directly > on the bed of a scanner for imaging? Any possibility of damage to > the board from the light or other parts of the scanner? I've done it > before with good results but not with anything truly unique. I've done it many times with great results. The only component I can think of that may be an issue are old UV erasable EPROMS. I would imagine that the scanner lamp may put out enough UV light to cause a problem. _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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[CCTALK] [OT] Emabrgoed Domains

by dougq＠iglou.com

Sorry about this, but the volume of spam has gotten intolerable, and the domains that are hosting it have been embargoed; anything from the domains yahoo.com hotmail.com msn.com aol.com will be deleted with extreme prejudice. If you happen to be one of those very few decent people who are using one of these ISPs (yes I'm pissed), and you want to contact me, you'll have to punch through the filter. To do that, take the two-word phrase I used in the sentence above, misspell the second word using the commonly-used shorter mispelling, concatenate it with the violence word that precedes it, capitalize, and enclose the result in square brackets. Someday, somebody will make procmail easy to use, and this won't be necessary. Regards, -doug q

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[CCTALK] transistor counts again

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> > >> > The 4004 was once rumored to have been named that because it had the >> > equivalent of 4004 transistors. >> > THAT is what probably gave rise to the 68000 silliness. >> > It's MUCH more impressive what was done with only 486! > >On Wed, 15 May 2002, Andreas Freiherr wrote: >> Shoudn't that read "80486"? >only if we stick with intel! > >That's what was so impressive about the Cyrix 486SLC, was that it DIDN'T >have the other 80,000! 'course it always seemed more like a fast 80386 to >me. >And the K6 does a really nice job with 6144! >and how about the Z80, V20, etc.? > Hi What are you guys talking about. The K6 has millions of transistors, as does the 486. Dwight

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[CCTALK] Test post and DEC Unix question

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Dan Kolb > > On Wednesday 15 May 2002 18:48 pm, David Woyciesjes wrote: > > > ..an example there is... > > # mount -u / > > ... when booted into single user. > > Thanks! That did the trick. > > Dan > -- > No problem. Now, if I can only get paid for doing this e-mail computer support as well as here ***sigh*** ;) -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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[CCTALK] DEC Unix (Break-in) DIgital Dec3000/500 Flamingo

by truthanl＠oclc.org

Ethan Dicks wrote: > > >I'm trying to break into (my own) DEC Alpha running Digital Unix V3.2... COINCIDENTLY: I was trying to break into a DEC 3000/500 system I inherited >from a launched development project here at OCLC. Rick Murphy's post also got me into single user mode on my system, But unlike you I haven't a Clue on how to edit the password files now that I am In. I had almost sent off for NetBSD for the Flamingo, but reading thier list I could not have used the console or Mouse that is on this system. My system has Digital Unix V4.0D (rev 878) May 5 1998 During the Boot the system changes Fonts and goes to 1280X1024 Mode My system has 224 MBytes of Ram 2 RZ25 drives, one RZ26 drive, one RRD42 cd drive and a TLZ06 tape transport. It also has the DEC lance ethernet installed. So how do I edit the root password from here? This is my first foray into unix admin.... Sincerely Larry Truthan

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[CCTALK] DEC Unix (Break-in) DIgital Dec3000/500 Flamingo

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Truthan,Larry > > Ethan Dicks wrote: > > > > >I'm trying to break into (my own) DEC Alpha running Digital Unix > V3.2... > > > COINCIDENTLY: I was trying to break into a DEC 3000/500 system I > inherited > from a launched development project here at OCLC. > > Rick Murphy's post also got me into single user mode on my system, But > unlike you I haven't a Clue on how to edit the password files now that I > am > In. > > I had almost sent off for NetBSD for the Flamingo, but reading thier > list > I could not have used the console or Mouse that is on this system. > > My system has Digital Unix V4.0D (rev 878) May 5 1998 > > During the Boot the system changes Fonts and goes to 1280X1024 Mode > > My system has 224 MBytes of Ram 2 RZ25 drives, one RZ26 drive, one RRD42 > cd drive and a TLZ06 tape transport. It also has the DEC lance ethernet > installed. > > > So how do I edit the root password from here? This is my first foray > into > unix admin.... > # passwd ...is the command. Look into vipw also... But be careful in that one... BTW, you can get X running on a NetBSD loaded DEC3000. If you search through the mail archives for port-Alpha/netBSD, you should find some info on how to do it... -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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[CCTALK] Test post and DEC Unix question

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> ---------- > From: Dan Kolb > Reply To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:32 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: [CCTALK] Test post and DEC Unix question > > On Wednesday 15 May 2002 17:28 pm, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > --- Rick Murphy <rmurphy(a)itm-inst.com> wrote: > > ^^^^^ Hmm....I seem to have not got Rick's message for some reason. > > > > At 03:49 PM 5/14/02 -0700, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > > >I'm trying to break into (my own) DEC Alpha running Digital Unix > > > > V3.2... > > I'm trying to do the same on OSF1/Digital Unix v4.0 > > > > Once you're in single-user mode, "mount -r /" to remount the root... > > This doesn't want to work for me - keeps saying 'device busy'. I can't get > > a man page for 'mount' up, because the root fs (and therefore /tmp) is > read-only, and I don't have another Digital Unix 4.0 box to get a man > page up on :-) Could anyone kindly point me towards the right options for > remounting a mounted filesystem read-write? > > -- > According to man mount(8) on my D/UX 3.2C box... -u Remount a file system.... -r read only -w read/write, which is equal to -o rw ..an example there is... # mount -u / ... when booted into single user. -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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[CCTALK] Re: [CCTECH] Keycap cleaning strategy

by pdp11＠bellsouth.net

> I'm going to clean a Sun 3 keyboard today. Its keycaps are filthy. The > strategy I've used in the past for the keycaps is: > > * Goto the kitchen. There is a double sink there. > * Fill one sink with hot, soapy water and the other will cold, non-soapy > water. > * Dump the keycaps into the hot sink and let them soak for a while. > * Slosh the keycaps around a bit. > * Transfer the keycaps to the cold water. If necessary, wipe grime from each > one as it is transferred. > * Arrange the keycaps for drying. Dry them with a hair dryer. > * Test for dryness by tapping a table with a keycap. If any water drops > appear on the table, repeat the previous step. > > I have a dishwasher, but I don't trust it. I've had pretty good luck cleaning the caps on Sun keyboards without removing them. By using a good quality commercial spray cleaner sprayed on a cloth, you can get them looking almost like new. If they were really bad, I could see taking them off and soaking them. The dishwasher would be a bad idea. You could easily end up with a bunch of little bits of melted plastic and a broken dishwasher. _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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Has the list gone dead?

by foo＠siconic.com

Anyone out there? Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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[CCTALK] Re: [CCTECH] TRS-80 Model 1

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 5/15/02 10:22:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, foo(a)siconic.com writes: > As a benefit to those here on the cctech side of the list who value > topical messages, I am only sending these many referrals I receive every > month to cctech. > Thanks Sellam. This is an interesting idea. If you get this message then CCTECH is working for you. It is for me. Paxton Astoria, OR

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[CCTALK] [CCTECH] TRS-80 Model 1

by foo＠siconic.com

Here's some lady with a TRS-80 Model 1. She wants money for it. $50-$75 would be reasonable. Reply-to: <bob-barb(a)humboldt1.com> Note: As a benefit to those here on the cctech side of the list who value topical messages, I am only sending these many referrals I receive every month to cctech. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 08 May 2002 18:35:31 -0700 From: ROBERT HEIMANSON <bob-barb(a)humboldt1.com> To: vcf(a)vintage.org RADIO SHACK TRS-80 MODEL I COMPUTER - Complete with Keyboard, Monitor, Cassette Drive Recorder, Printer, Books, Original Manuals, and Lots of Software. A REAL CLASSIC VINTAGE COMPUTER FOR THE COLLECTOR. Make an offer, plus UPS Shipping. E-mail Barbara at bob-barb(a)humboldt1.com. Call (707) 445-2279, evenings or Sundays Pacific Time. Write to: Barbara Heimanson, 4127 Walnut Drive, Eureka, California 95503. Barbara Heimanson -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com * _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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[CCTALK] [CCTECH] Working yet?

by foo＠siconic.com

Is cctech passing messages yet? All I see are messages from cctalk. A lot of them are messages that are on topic and should be going to cctech. I'm waiting to unsubscribe to cctalk until I know cctech is working. Who's doing the moderation on cctech? Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com * _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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[CCTALK] Who's going to Dayton? Take two

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

OK... something about the recent changes to the list adminstration process caused my reply to be bounced, but we'll try a fresh message... A couple of list members piped up about going to the Hamvention. I will be there on Friday only, and not for the entire day (previous commitment elsewhere). If anyone has a mind to get together, I will have a 2m radio and a cell phone. Write me directly for numbers. -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com

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[CCTALK] SPD/DOS ?

by aek＠spies.com

I picked up a box of 8" hard sectored floppies on my trip, and was trying to identify the system they came from. There is a system floppy that has the following paper directory included. Does anyone know what system this is for? DIRECTORY LISTING DSN=DISKJW S T ..NAME.. FT IF NT ...............L A B E L ---------------- 0 EDIT 03 05 02 SPD/DOS EDIT V3.17 74-10-14-2030 0 DCOPY 05 05 01 SPD/DOS DCOPY V3.09 74-10-14-1210 0 ERASE 06 05 01 SPD/DOS ERASE V3.02 74-10-10-0845 0 PACK 07 05 01 SPD/DOS PACK V3.05 74-10-08-0250 ? 0 FORMAT 08 05 02 SPD/DOS FORMAT V3.10 74-10-08-0140 0 ZAP 10 05 02 SPD/DOS ZAP V2.12 74-10-15-0110

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[CCTALK] transistor counts again

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] > Yeah. > The 4004 was once rumored to have been named that because it had the > equivalent of 4004 transistors. > THAT is what probably gave rise to the 68000 silliness. > It's MUCH more impressive what was done with only 486! Wouldn't that be 80486? Motorola kept it much smaller for a while, and then jumped to 88000 ;) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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[CCTALK] Commodore 1541 Drive

by gehrich＠tampabay.rr.com

At 09:45 AM 5/15/02 -0500, you wrote: >I'm trying to get one I have four of them on consignment on my web site. Let me know if interested and I will let you know off list what I need to get for one or more. Also they are heavy to ship (about $9 each) Gene http://www.voicenet.com/~generic

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[CCTALK] cctalk test

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

test cctalk

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[CCTALK] [OT] Emabrgoed Domains

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Douglas H. Quebbeman > > ....If you happen to be one of those very few decent people who > are using one of these ISPs (yes I'm pissed), and you want > to contact me, you'll have to punch through the filter. > > To do that, take the two-word phrase I used in the sentence > above, misspell the second word using the commonly-used shorter > mispelling, concatenate it with the violence word that precedes > it, capitalize, and enclose the result in square brackets. > Geez, you must be pissed! That's a hell of some hoops to jump through! -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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[CCTALK] FullPageDisplay (and landfill)[was RE: Alphaserver for trade]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

BTW, does anybody know if Radius sold their Mac Full Page Display under any other names? I think I have one, but I don't recall the brand at the moment.. > From: Chris > > > Aww, man! how come the good stuff is always on the other side of the > >country? > > Or Texas... what is it with Texas... why do you have all the old > computers? Is NJ using other states for landfill again?? > > -chris > Chris, don't you know that NJ (the Landfill state) isn't supposed to get the good trash, just the smelly stuff... -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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[CCTALK] Commodore 1541 Drive

by bob_lafleur＠technologist.com

> Also, is there any chance of making a 1541 read an Apple ][ disk? I know they both use GCR encodings for their disks, and it'd be really useful if I could read disks on my PC. I don't believe there is a way to make a 1541 read Apple ][ disks. I don't recall any programs to do this from the "old days" anyway, and if there had been a program, I'm sure I would have heard about it as I knew lots of people who had both machines, and it would have been somewhat desirable to move data between the two. - Bob

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[CCTALK] FW: Off-Topic: Goodbye to ftp.digital.com?

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Paul Vixie > Subject: Re: Off-Topic: Goodbye to ftp.digital.com? > > i have just communicated with the operators of gatekeeper.dec.com (with > whom ftp.isc.org shares a cage at PAIX) and was told two things. > > 1. HP plans to fully support gatekeeper (now that the merger is done), > and has approved a 1-Terabyte expansion to its disk storage subsystem; > > 2. ftp.digital.com is no longer the same computer as gatekeeper.dec.com, > it's a machine on the east coast somewhere. > > i've asked whether there's any problems looming for ftp.digital.com, and > i'll report back here if i hear anything. but gatekeeper.dec.com (which > i had a hand in creating back during my 1998-1993 stint at dec.com) is > absolutely safe from harm. > > > -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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