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WTB: 8088 pod of Fluke 9010 MicroSystem Troubleshooter

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

The title says it all. I'm looking for an 8088 pod for the Fluke 9010. I have some duplicate pods and I'll swap one of them or buy it outright. Joe

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Network cards

by dan＠ekoan.com

At 01:45 PM 8/9/02 -0500, you wrote: >Dont worry, along with my other roommates, I have 'security measures'. >Muahahahahah. I can vouch for a significant amount of heavy iron in Pat's apartment, which could be used for some serious defensive (and offensive) activity. His place is also rather difficult to locate given only an address, so Pat's stash is relatively safe. Now if he'd only keep the Hewlett-Packard gear for me... Cheers, Dan

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by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 08:15 PM 8/8/02 -0500, Pat wrote: >Ahh, crap. Didn't mean to send that to the list. Esp w/my address... :( WE know know you are, and we know where you live! :-)

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Stuff near Boston needing new homes

by phil+ccmp＠ultimate.com

I have a variety of old computer stuff (hardware, docs) of various kinds (DEC, AT&T, Sun) that I'd like to find new homes for near Boston. For a complete and current list, see http://www.ultimate.com/phil/stuff/ PLEASE REPLY TO THE E-MAIL ADDRESS ON THE WEB PAGE!!!

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UnixPC 7300 --> 3b2

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 09:48 AM 8/8/02 -0700, you wrote: >On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Doc Shipley wrote: > >> Hi. >> I'm looking at picking up an ATT 3b2 to complement my 7300. I know >> the 3b2 has a different CPU type (WE3102?) as opposed to the 7300's >> 68010. Are they binary-compatible? Specifically, can I use the same >> install and program media for both? >> >> Doc >> >> >> >No, completely different beasts... > >Peter Wallace Right. AND there's a whole series of different 3B2s. Joe

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Network cards

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Ya, hi, I'm interested (Token Ring Buff) If you are a token ring buff... I still have the following available for the cost of shipping (from 07450, NJ). 11 - IBM, Auto 16/4 Token Ring, ISA, RJ45 DB9 08 - IBM, Auto 16/4 Token Ring, ISA, RJ45 13 - IBM, 16/4, ISA, RJ45 DB9 08 - IBM, 16/4 Token Ring, Microchannel, DB9 04 - IBM, 16/4, ISA, DB9 03 - IBM, Turbo 16/4 Token Ring, ISA, RJ45 DB9 01 - Intel, M#770400331 16/4, ISA, RJ45 DB9 01 - Madge, Smart 16/4 AT Plus Ringnode, ISA, RJ45 DB9 That should be correct (it's what I have saved as a text file that I printed my inventory sheets from... the actual boxes they are in are under a pile of monitors and I'm not digging them out unless someone wants something). The cards are untested. They were given to me in a large box of assorted parts pulled during a mass ethernet migration (and other upgrades, there were things like 2400 -14.4 modems as well). I was not involved in the pulling, so I can't say what the status was before they were pulled. I don't have any reason to believe they are bad, but I honestly have no clue about them. (All the parts I did want worked fine, so I would imagine the Token Ring cards work as well) I don't want ANY of them... so take one, take them all... just get them out of here. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Anyone using their old Mac?

by Gavin.Haines1＠btopenworld.com

On Sat, Aug 3, 2002 9:20 am, Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com>wrote: >> Projects I have not been able to do. >> 1. Connect any Macintosh running System 6 to the internet > >ISTR doing that with MacTCP 1.x (an addon install, not included >in System 6) and a SCSI<->Ethernet box. I'm fairly certain that >the ethernet box came with System 6 drivers, but if someone here >knows that it flat-out can't be done, then I'm probably mistaken. >I have never tried it with dial-up, if that's what you mean. You can down the necessary control panels off the Internet, but I have never been able to get through to my ISP. I haven't got an Ethernet box. Problem with Ethernet for the LCII is that it takes the socket you need for the Apple IIe card. -chris added: >There are also System 6 drivers for the Farallon Etherwave >localtalk->ethernet adaptor, however, the Etherwave doesn't support >TCP/IP (limit of the Appletalk, not of the etherwave), so you have to use >MacIP (TCP/IP wrapped in AppleTalk), and a MacIP to TCP/IP bridge (like >IPNetRouter running on another Mac). And again, I see no reason it can't >be done. It would be more useful to be to be able to connect a S6 Mac to the Internet from any phone socket which is why I was trying to do it dial up. It is has to go via another machine, then there isn't any advantage. Obviously you can ethernet another mac to your iMac. >> 1. Connected the Apple II to the BBC Micro using the games socket on the >> Apple and transfered data successfully. (hard) > >Did you write a bit-banger serial port for the Apple? I am not sure what this expression means. I connected the Apple games socket to the BBC Micro User port and used an adapted version of the RS232 serial program which is in the "Red Book"

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FS: 150 MHz R4400 SGI Indigos!

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

A friend of mine has two R4400 Indigos and some extra SGI odds and ends that he'd like to sell. The first system is a doozy, it's LOADED! The blue sled that he mentions lets you set the SCSI address without removing the drive from the system, unlike the standard black sleds. His name, E-mail address and location are at the bottom of the message. Here's the details of the systems: > >Also, for the post, here's what's left!! > > >1 Iris Indigo (CMNB003B) R4400 150Mhz workstation >Elan graphics (030-8058-006, 4 GE-7s) >384 MB ram >9 Gig hard drive on blue sled (SCSI ID settable) >Irix 6.5.3 installed (will include all passwords, change as you like) >10 Base T Tranceiver (These are adapters. They fit onto the output of the built in GIO-BUS AUI Ethernet card >and convert the AUI plug to an RJ-45 standard Ethernet style plug.) >Power cord > >1 Iris Indigo (CMNB003B) R4400 150Mhz workstation >XZ-24 graphics (030-8122-001, 2 GE-7s) Z buffer, 24 bit >Minimal problems with this machine, probably related to the memory >180 MB ram (some of questionable quality) >4 Gig hard drive on blue sled (SCSI ID settable) >Irix 6.5.3 installed (will include all passwords, change as you like) >10 Base T Tranceiver (same as above) >Power cord > > >1 Bootable external CD drive (Toshiba 3x, I think) >2 CD caddies >1 3? SCSI cable >1 Power cord > >2 Indigo Keyboards (9500801) >2 Indigo Mice (9150800) > >1 GDM-17E11 17" SGI graphite monitor >10? Sun 13W3 Cable >Power cord >Manual > >1 17" SGI Monitor (older style, not sure of the model number) >3? SGI 13W3 Cable >Power cord > >Extras: > >1 Active SCSI terminator >1 LG1 Graphics board >1 Power supply (broken, good for parts) >2 R4000 100Mhz CPUs >1 3? 13W3 Monitor cable >1 Lock bar >1 Floptical drive on black sled >8 21MB floptical disks >1 Extra empty black sled >1 Iris Indigo owners manual (still in orig. shrinkwrap) >1 Set Irix 4.5 >Extra memory of questionable quality >Odds and ends > >All are in working order with the exceptions noted. > >Shipping is out of Los Angeles ? 90046 > >Reply to: > >Lee Redmond > >Redmond4(a)pacbell.net

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Another HTML message! Re: SEMI4200 IC

by swtpc6800＠attbi.com

.TL ''Another HTML message! Re: SEMI4200 IC'' .DM PP .SP .SI 5 .. .PP If you are are going to send a formated text message, please use a classic format. .PP This message is formatted using an NROFF style text markup language. This markup language is way over 10 years old and should be allowed on the Classic Computer mail list. .PP The version I used was developed for the FLEX based 6800/6809 computers from the late 1970s and early 1980s. The documentation for the TSC Text Processor can be found here. .SP http://www.swtpc.com/mholley/TSC_PR/TSC_PR.htm .SP2 .CE 2 Michael Holley www.swtpc.com/mholley

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Paging Tothwolf

by msspcva＠yahoo.com

Tried to send Tothwolf a message directly to the account at concentric.net and the system bounced it as 'user unknown': ==== Message from yahoo.com. Unable to deliver message to the following address(es). <tothwolf(a)concentric.net>: 207.155.198.87 does not like recipient. Remote host said: 550 5.1.1 <tothwolf(a)concentric.net>... User unknown Giving up on 207.155.198.87. ==== If anyone has a direct line to Tothwolf please pass this on. -- Frank ===== = M O N T V A L E S O F T W A R E S E R V I C E S P. C.= Clayton Frank Helvey, President Montvale Software Services, P. C. P.O. Box 840 Blue Ridge, VA 24064-0840 Phone: 540.947.5364 Email: msspcva(a)yahoo.com ============================================================ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com

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Thanks for the Lisa XL Info

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Forgot who it was that alerted me to the XL on eBay for $20, but wanted to >say thanks as I won it for the $20. Ah... so you are the one that won it. I don't feel as bad about not having gotten there first, now that I know it at least went to someone that will give it a good home (and not some "dealer" that will strip it and try to sell the peices for $100's each) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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TRS-80 Model III

by palazzol＠comcast.net

Sellam, IIRC, it is possible to have the brightness adjusted so that you can see the raster, but the contrast adjusted so that you cannot see the text. If the contrast is the knob that is frozen or broken...then that might be the problem. Strange, these pots tend to get a little dirty over time, but I've never seen one get that bad off. Maybe they were exposed to some kind of contaminant. I've got 3 Model III's, and the worst problem I've had was a bad VRAM chip. Also, if you do have a scope, I remember there was a decent test point where the video data can be tapped on it's way to the video circuitry. That way you can tell if it's a computer problem or a video problem. Good luck, -Frank

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Webster WQSMD Controller

by kevin＠ps8.co.uk

Hi all Does anyone have a copy of the manual for this QBUS SMD controller? We need to access the onboard diags/formatter. I believe there is an RS232 port on board (but do not have the pinouts), but I think we could also access it through the console. Thanks in anticipation Kevin

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UnixPC 7300 --> 3b2

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Hi. I'm looking at picking up an ATT 3b2 to complement my 7300. I know the 3b2 has a different CPU type (WE3102?) as opposed to the 7300's 68010. Are they binary-compatible? Specifically, can I use the same install and program media for both? Doc

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Found source for NOS tapes/media--need any?

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

Went to a local computer store and their discount table was full of old tapes and media, mostly new factory sealed. I got: DC2120XL XIMAT DC2080 RHOMAT 3m drive upgrade kit with 2120 XL ximat and arcadia dos backup app DC2060 KAPPAMAT irwin 40 128 meg optical disks. There was also other tapes of varying types and sizes, DC600,. lots of syquest 88 (are they backwards compatible with the syquest 44?) , 6120(?) and so on and so forth. If anyone needs some of these tapes, message me and we can strike a deal. Now I can use my IBM 6157 tape drive, and my PS/2's tape backup and M/O drive.

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SEMI4200 IC

by harryconickjr＠hotmail.com

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FA: Manual for Tektronix 4051 Data Com. Interface Item # 1756557693

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1756557693>

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info? Micro Instruments memory voltmeter

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I picked up an intersting gadget today. It's a model 5203C Memory Voltmeter made by Micro Instruments. It has a four digit Nixie tube display and appears capture and display + or - DC or AC peak voltages. Does anyone know anything about these? It has two zero adjustments, among other things I'm trying to figure out exactly what they do. Neither of them seems to "zero" the meter in the normal manner. Also what does "Narrow band" and "wide Band" mean? Changing the setting doesn't change the voltage range so has to be for something else. Joe

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Looking For: Extended Mass Storage ROM for the HP 85

by jsickles＠comcast.net

Hi I'm looking for the HP 00085-15013 Extended Mass Storage (EMS) ROM module for the HP 85 (A/B). A trade for some other HP 85 stuff would be a possibility. Thanks, Jim Jim Sickles jsickles(a)comcast.net

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looking for: extended mass storage rom for hp 87

by jsickles＠comcast.net

Hi, I'm also looking for an HP Extended Mass Storage module (hp 00085-15013) for the HP 85 (A/B). I'm trying to get an old disk drive (hp 9133 D) to work with an HP 85 B. I could probably find some HP 85 stuff to trade for this. Thanks. Jim Jim Sickles jsickles(a)comcast.net

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Blowing Up Old Computers

by dittman＠dittman.net

> Tandy M100, M102, M200. Olivetti M10. And whatever the Kyocera version > was called. (OK, they contain an 8085 CPU, which was originally an Intel > design, but I don't think that's the normal meaning of 'Wintel') These are Wintel, but they are MStel. The ROM was written by Microsoft. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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Another save

by mross666＠hotmail.com

A System/38 :-) http://www.corestore.org/s38.htm I'm picking up a System/32 and /34 in the next couple of weeks, now all I need is to find that System/3... If anyone else has a System/38 and is having a hard time getting it going, drop me a line - I've got big boxes stuffed full of manuals, MAPs, MIMs, and software... Mike http://www.corestore.org _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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TRS-80 Model III

by doug_jackson＠citadel.com.au

I know that the TRS-80 Model 4P uses a PLL to do the high res video mode, and that a common cause of crappy quality display is the setting of the VCO cap. My 4P was unsable until I adjusted the cap, not it is beautiful. regards Doug Jackson MSS Operations Manager Citadel Securix (02) 6290 9011 (Ph) (02) 6262 6215 (Fax) (0414) 986 878 (mobile) > -----Original Message----- > From: Curt Vendel [mailto:curt@atarimuseum.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:43 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: TRS-80 Model III > > > Sellam, > > Are the boot straps on eproms on the motherboards??? You > may be facing > possible bitrot, that's one possibility. > > > Curt > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com> > To: "Classic Computers Mailing List" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 3:31 PM > Subject: TRS-80 Model III > > > > > > I am trying to get a TRS-80 Model III working. When I turn > it on the disk > > drive spins for a while looking for a disk I presume. All > I get on the > > screen are wispish diagonal lines as if the horizontal hold is all > > whacked. > > > > I managed to unstick one of the video adjustment knobs on the left > > underside but all it does is affect the brightness level. > The other one > > requires a screwdriver to move at all (shimmying it up and > down) and does > > not seem to affect the display. I haven't opened it yet to see what > > adjustments are inside. I'd rather not, but there don't > seem to be any > > adjustment pots accessible from outside the case. > > > > What's weird is that I have access to a bunch of TRS-80 > Model 3's here at > > the ACCRC and pretty much all of the ones I have played > with so far are > > basically "dead" in this manner. The one I'm working on > just came in > > today and is in the same state. Also, the video knobs on the left > > underside are all stuck on everyone I've tried to get > working. What is > > the deal with that? Do they get rusted over time or > something? Very > > annoying. > > > > The fact that the disk drive spins up when I turn it on is > a good sign I > > hope. > > > > Any help on this would be appreciated. I know next to zero > about the > > TRS-80 series. > > > > Sellam Ismail > Vintage Computer > Festival > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------ > ---- > > International Man of Intrigue and Danger > http://www.vintage.org > > > > * Old computing resources for business and academia at > www.VintageTech.com * > > > CAUTION - The information in this message may be of a privileged or confidential nature intended only for the use of the addressee or someone authorised to receive the addressee's e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify postmaster(a)citadel.com.au. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Citadel Securix. Feel free to visit the Citadel Securix website! Click below. http://www.citadel.com.au

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Network cards

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

Ya, hi, I'm interested (Token Ring Buff) Sorry, you missed them by 43 minutes. Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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OT: Digital Watch Recommendations?

by bill＠timeguy.com

This is entirely OT, but since we're probably all gadget freaks here, I thought it would be a good place to ask. My "OnHand" PC watch recently bit the dust, so I'm in the market for a cool new toy to wear on my wrist. I've had various "DataBank" watches, a Timex DataLink, and the OnHand in the past. Not long ago I got a Kyocera PDA/Phone that handles most of the functions the watch used to provide, so now I'm just looking for something fun. I like BIG, HEAVY, INDUSTRIAL watches, so none of those effeminate little dressy things! I'm currently thinking about either a Casio camera watch, or a Timex "Internet Messenger" watch. Samsung has released a cell-phone watch in Japan, but not available in the US yet, priced at $1,000, and duplicates the function of my existing phone. Any suggestions?

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Network cards

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

Slightly OT but.. Two Madge Smart 16/4 PCI ringnode cards. Untested. Anyone? Cheers, Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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WTS: MCA NICs & PS/2 Model 70s

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I've got a bunch of (8) MCA NICS, and four PS/2 Model 70s with a NIC each in them. Only problem -- some of the computers dont have hard drives, some dont have floppy drives, and NONE have memory. All of the NICs are SMC/WDC cards that have both AUI and 10BaseT connectors on them. I'm interested in DEC and RS/6000 hardware, or money. Make offers if interested. -- Pat

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SCSI-View SCSI bus analyzer?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Is anyone here familar with the sv-1600 SCSI-View SCSI bus analyzer made by VeriSoft? I found one today. It's a card that fits in a 16 bit PC-AT socket. I'm looking for a manual and software for it. Joe

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Thanks for the Lisa XL Info

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Forgot who it was that alerted me to the XL on eBay for $20, but wanted to say thanks as I won it for the $20. Now if you can just find me a Lisa 1, then I will have a complete collection of the Lisa's. Oh yea the same $20 would be nice too. :-) On a little different note I was talking to my daughter about the Lisa 1 manual going for $350 on eBay and she reminded me of the fact that I tossed about 10 of those manuals (she took them to Half Price books to sell and only got about a nickel apiece for them) back in 1995 when I was closing down my shop to move to MN. Oh well you never know. :-(

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VMS question

by dittman＠dittman.net

> >>You can open a file to append, in which case the version number isn't > >>changed. Of course, typical VMS applications open the log file and never > >>close it and assuming you code it correctly, other applications can read > >>the log file. > > > >Unfortuantly at least version 1.9 of Samba (yeah, I know it's ancient, but > >it works for me) has the bad habit of creating a LOT of log files. I > >finally ended up creating a batch job to clean up after it. > > > > Zane > > Hey, I have an unused distribution of "rumba" which claims to > do what samba does but on VMS. Has anybody ever used it? > Is it any good? I've never used Rumba or Samba on VMS. I use either Pathworks or Advanced Server. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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VMS question

by rhudson＠cnonline.net

VMS has a distinctive that when you open a file for write or append, a copy of that file is made with a higher "Version" number. What happens then if you have a "log" type file, the OS (or some application) open it from time to time to add info. Mass copies of this file?

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classic computer rescue happy story

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

Actually, it's not a rescue of sorts, but a revival-- Got an email from a guy that runs a machine shop. Seems they use a PS/2 model 60 to run a lathe. They were having problems getting it working and were out of production. Turns out they are located about an hour away from me. We corresponded and a deal was struck and the following day a guy drove down to meet me and got two replacement model 60s from me for a cool $150. They wanted to keep using the same system since it was a package of some sort they bought quite some time ago and upgrading it would cost $10k. Kinda neat to see old machines still working. With it being a PS/2, I'm not surprised especially being in a machine shop. For those others that run computer museums, it might be wise to state your location. It was lucky he was located in the same state as me.

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Blowing Up Old Computers

by dittman＠dittman.net

> > Tandy M100, M102, M200. Olivetti M10. And whatever the Kyocera version > > was called. (OK, they contain an 8085 CPU, which was originally an Intel > > design, but I don't think that's the normal meaning of 'Wintel') > > These are Wintel, but they are MStel. The ROM was written by > Microsoft. I meant "These aren't Wintel..." -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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[Fwd: [6502ag] Re: Using a 8255]

by dogbert＠mindless.com

Ross Archer wrote: >r65c02p2 wrote: > > >>--- In 6502ag@y..., "rey_bbs" <rey_bbs@y...> wrote: >> >> >>>Is there a way to use 8255 in a 6502 computer instead of a 6522? >>> >>> >>Howdy Guys, >> >>I've read the list discussion regarding 8255's and the 6502 and >>thought I'd pipe up. I use 8255's with 6502 whenever I need lots >>of I/O bits per package count. Interface is rather simple. I also use >>NEC part Nr. D71055C which is a 8255 pin/program compatible CMOS >>component that will work to 10 MHz. Also using 82C55 for battery >>powered systems. All work quite reliably. >> >>The /RD and /WR signals for the 8255 I generate this way: >> >>/RD is 6502 R/W NAND Phi2 >>/WR is 6502 INVERTED-R/W NAND Phi2 >> >>Easily accomplished with single quad NAND...I generally use these >>same strobes for memory access and other buss connected device access. >> >> Regards All, >> Brian >> Hi, and thanks for that. The cool thing is you've just generated Z80-compatible strobes. Don't forget to use that last NAND gate left in your 7400 to invert the reset signal from 6502 pin 40 into 8255 pin 35. If not inverted, the 6502 RESET will hold the 8255 in reset indefinitely, and if omitted, may not come up 100%. Correct? -- Ross >> >> >>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >>6502ag-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com >> >> >> >>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> > > > >

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What about DOS-11? (was: Does anybody care about XXDP?)

by aek＠spies.com

> I haven't heard much talk about DOS-11 or DOS/BATCH (same thing?) At one point there were two separate products that were combined to create DOS/BATCH. It was sold until the late 70's but deemphasized in favor of RT-11. I have a bunch of DECtapes of this material queued up to be read in the next few months. The one document that I'm missing was the companion to the DOS/BATCH handbook that was the sys admin guide which describes the system generation process. A copy of a DOS/BATCH distribution tape that John Wilson and I read has been forwarded to Bob Supnik. Hopefully there's still someone left who would be willing to give permission for its release similar to that given for the version of RT that he has.

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Complete HP 150 available in Ft. Pierce, Florida

by vcf＠siconic.com

There is a complete HP 150 with software and documentation available in the Ft. Pierce, Florida, area. Shipping costs only. Might involve beauracratic red tape. If interested, please contact me directly. <sellam(a)vintage.org> -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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OT: Parity memory swap...

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

---Please reply directly to me--- Apologies for being off-topic, but considering the number of machines here that use 72-pin parity memory, hopefully someone can help me out. Thank you much for your patience :) I have 2 16x36 (64MB each) Parity 72 pin SIMMs... The sticker on them says... 02/27/97 1538 202639 16Mx36-6SIMST Void If Removed ...they are 1 3/16" high, 36 chips on each. I'm looking to trade these for a set of either 4 8x36 (32MB ea) or 8 4x36 (16MB ea) SIMMs. Of course, as usual, if it's cheap enough, I'll buy some too. Either way, none of my machines really like the 64MB SIMMs, so I at least want to trade those out. My Prioris HX MP/2 5150 (dual P-150s!) when I upgrade it to 4 CPUs, will use 128 bit interleaved memory, but I need to add 8 SIMMs at a time... BTW, I was just thinking... I have 608MB worth of Parity memory, in pairings... 2 - 64 - 16x36 6 - 32 - 8x36 12 - 16 - 4x36 12 - 8 - 2x36 Probably could trade these for full sets of either 8x36 or 4x36 SIMMs also. 512MB would be either 16 32MB SIMMs, or 32 16MB SIMMs. And no, I'm not looking to sell any. I have more machines (AXPpci33, Multia(s), PC64, SparcStation LX) that will use the rest of the RAM chips :) -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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Blowing Up Old Computers

by mythtech＠mac.com

>> Was the first Mac Laptop released before 1992 (which would make it >> on-topic here)? > >1989 if my factoidal memory cells are functioning properly. Correct, 1989, discontinued in 1991, so it was actually no longer available before the classic cutoff. And along with it, there are of course the line of Outback Mac "clone" laptops that predated the Apple Mac Portable. They were Mac clone units, but lacked the needed ROM chip. It was designed for you to take the ROM >from a Mac Plus, put it into the Outback, and then it had a special cable/connector that allowed it to dock to the Plus so you could share the ROM between the two. I've always wanted one of those laptops... someday I'll track one down (ideally I either want it fresh with cables, so I have to install the rom >from a Plus, or I want it with its slave Plus and cables). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Blowing Up Old Computers

by mythtech＠mac.com

> the line of Outback Mac "clone" laptops Sorry, OutBOUND, not OutBACK (I guess I had Subaru cars on my mind) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Test please ignore

by cisin＠xenosoft.com

D + At least there aren't MIME attachments, but it's still HTML! NOTE: the "<pre>" and "</pre>" are so that HTML compliant mail programs won't hide what he has written. -- Grumpy Ol' Fred On Tue, 6 Aug 2002, Ram Meenakshisundaram wrote: <pre> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2653.12"> <TITLE>Test please ignore</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> This is a test ..... Blah, blah, blah Ram 2002 OpenLink Financial Copyright in this message and any attachments remains with us.  It is confidential and may be legally privileged.   If this message is not intended for you it must not be read, copied or used by you or disclosed to anyone else.   Please advise the sender immediately if you have received this message in error. Although this message and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by Open Link Financial, Inc. for any loss or damage in any way arising from its use. </BODY> </HTML> </pre>

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[OT] Re: Outhouse Text Setting

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] > > "Common Sense"?!? > That would imply that anyone, even without current expertise, > should be able to figure out how to use it safely. Okay, true, I stand corrected. > It IS possible to use Outhouse (aka MICROSOFT Virus Transfer Protocol) > with reasonable safety. But what it requires is not "common > sense", but a > reasonable understanding of the problems involved, and of the design > failings of MICROS~1 products. That's my basic point. A basic understanding of the issues, and options, with Outlook (incl. Express) can secure it some. That, and a good firewall & virus scanner... > Somebody that I know who is computer clueless, thought that > the "Preview > Pane" was a Microsoft SECURITY feature! She assumed that it > was like a > door peephole, and provided a way to SAFELY see what was in > an attachment > in isolation! I removed 30 copies of Klez from her machine. > > Was that a lack of "common sense"? NO. It was an assumption > that MICROS~1 > had "reasonable" security designed into their products. You > would have to > know something about MICROS~1 for that to be a lack of "common sense". Well, I think the common sense part would apply (pretty much) to the "not taking candy from strangers" idea. But with the latest crop of virii (exploiting MS security holes), you don't even need to open an attachment anymore to get whacked. Or is it healthy suspicion of unsolicited e-mail? :) -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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[OT] Re: Outlook Text Setting [was: Differences between the.. .]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

-----Original Message----- From: Eric Smith [mailto:eric@brouhaha.com] > Personally, I feel that if you use common sense, Outlook can be > _almost_ as safe as Pine. Not even close! Example: Outlook will run Javascript in the preview pane. The problem is that when MS designed Outlook, they gave not the slightest bit of concern to security. Since then they've patched some of the worst problems, but they haven't fixed the overall design. As far as I can tell, their recent claim to be focusing on security is just lip service. I try to get all my clients to switch to Mahogany, which is free software, or Eudora if they insist on using commercial software. http://mahogany.sourceforge.net/ Eric - You're kinda right, but missed one thing. I said "use common sense". That would include disabling the preview pane, as it is a known security issue. :) Alongside not opening unknown attachments, adjusting the security zone settings, disabling VB scripting (and all other scripting) etc... -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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Outlook Text Setting [was: Differences between the...]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

From: Ram Meenakshisundaram [mailto:RMeenaks@OLF.COM] Hi Thilo, ..... SOrry about the HTML, its outlooks fault... Cheers, Ram FYI - I just looked here in my Outlook 2000. If you go into the Tools menu, select Options, then click on the Mail Format tab, at the top you should see an option that says "See in this message format:" There you can select Plain Text. But that doesn't change the format when you're replying to a message. And/or, if your creating/replying to a message, if you go into the Format menu (in the same message composition window) you can change it to Plain Text for that specific message. I use Outlook for composing messages. If your using Word to compose the e-mail, I suggest you change that in the "Tools - Options - Mail Format" window. If you have a specific question about this, e-mail me directly. :) Personally, I feel that if you use common sense, Outlook can be _almost_ as safe as Pine. Too bad it's Microsoft that's developing and supporting it. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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Cruftiness rating

by meltie＠myrealbox.com

I saw this link on Slashdot on Monday, thought it was pretty funny. It's a measure of how much cruft a Windows PC accumulates throughout its lifetime. Funny to laugh at, but not on topic, you say. Well, The Register is carrying the story and a plea of help from its author: "However we would like your input. A community effort is required to produce MacOS, POSIX-compliant versions, and touch wood, versions for PalmOS, phones and *even VAXes too*." Input? Original link: http://www.ddj.com/documents/s=7453/ddj0208q/0208q.htm El Reg: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/26475.html alex -- Live like you will never die, love like you've never been hurt, dance like no-one is watching.

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Nigerian Scam

by jhfinepw4z＠compsys.to

Do the police care about the Nigerian Scam? Is there anything they can even do? NOTE: This was sent to me personally, NOT to classiccmp. But I can't remember if anyone even cares any more and I should just toss it?????? ================================================ Email:victorowode@mail.com Dear Sir, I am Mr.victor owode. Bank Manager of Diamond Bank of Nigeria, Lagos Branch. I have urgent and very confidential business proposition for you. On June 6, 1997, [Snip - not much point to have the rest] ================================================= I can't remember what advice was given last time - just toss it or since September 11th, are the police so bogged down with real problems? Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

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Non-Intel Laptops

by roosmcd＠dds.nl

> > >I think the Digital > > >AlphaBook is more than 10 years old too - this being the only "old" > > >laptop I'd pay real money for. > > > > I have one... at least at work... I've been using it recently to > > do some testing. Linux runs on it just fine... > > Having just acquired a DECstation 5000 (MIPS) as well as a DEC 3000 > (Alpha), I'd love to know more about the AlphaBook. Can't find much > on the web apart from companies who are selling memory upgrades for > it. I doubt that the alphabook is more than 10 years old. My thinkpad N40 is from 1994 and surely the alphabook is faster than 50MHz and thus younger? According to google it has a 233MHz 21066A and according to my memory it should have something like a 166MHz processor, but maybe there were different versions. There's also a HP-UX version, the Precisionbook, which is very similar to the Alphabook. A bit more collectible is this one, I forgot to bid :( http://cgi.ebay.nl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2042227517&rd=1 Also look out for the RS/6000 thinkpads and the Silicon Graphics laptops (probably only sold to the military or something like that, I've never seen one for sale). Sparcbooks are just too common :). greetings, Michiel ps. For finding information on Alphabooks use www.archive.org on the tadpole and the rdi site.

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Test please ignore

by RMeenaks＠OLF.COM

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Differences between the Double Eurocard and VME

by RMeenaks＠OLF.COM

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Geek Joke

by cmcnabb＠4mcnabb.net

This came across the Virginia Tech Technical Support list server today: There are 10 types of people in the world.... Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

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Anyone Care About RT-11

by jhfinepw4z＠compsys.to

In regard to the Freeware CDs for RSX-11 and RT-11 I have now finished the verification tasks that I feel are needed to ensure that I am producing correct images. I will be making some copies of the CD images from: ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/cd-images/ http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RT-11/ http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RSX-11/ I have finally been able to reproduce all 3 CD labels. The 2 RSX-11 labels are quite well done. I hope to improve the RT-11 label - it has all the information, but the label is about 1/4" off centre. If I have not been able to obtain a better copy of the RT-11 CD labels by the time the CDs are being made, then I will just use what I have. I have also been able to get to the post office and check a sample package for the postage. The total amount in US dollars (all inquiries but one have been from the US) will be: ($ 5.00 / $ 9.00 / $ 12.00) for (1 / 2 / 3) CDs when I use standard CD-R blanks. In addition, I understand that Black Label CDs have a longer shelf life and are available at Business Depot. If anyone wants those instead, add $ 1.00 for each CD that you are requesting. Thus that price range will be ($ 6.00 / $ 11.00 / $ 15.00) Please include your mailing address!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In general, I will regard any funds you send as a gift so that if anyone really can't afford the CDs, please state why that is so. Outside of the US, probably add about $ 1.00 should be sufficient. If you are receiving this notice via a public list, I will send you my mailing address when you ask me to burn the CDs. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

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