- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

Hey people.

by vance＠neurotica.com

I'm back. Peace... Sridhar

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OT: dumpster dive and water/mold cleanup

by mythtech＠mac.com

>One that I found may be worth money, it is a Disney Snow White record >set :-) If complete, maybe, but don't be surprised if it fetches less than you think (well, maybe with eBay you'll get a good price). I bought a small stack (5 or 6) of Disney 78's at a flea market a few years ago. Although none were complete, and none were in mint condition... I only paid $20 for the bundle, and got a large stack (30 or so) of 45's in the deal too. Then again, maybe I just got a steal (all the guy was selling was records, so I assume he had some clue as to what he was selling) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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QWERTY/Dvorak (was //c+ switch settings)

by mtapley＠swri.edu

Sellam asked: >Who the hell uses Dvorak? Yo. >A very interesting and unique feature to have >on a computer (anyone else know of a computer that had a switch that would >instantly change the keymapping between QWERTY and Dvorak?) Now this is *cool*!. Why didn't Apple include a Dvorak keymapping with the early Mac's, if they knew enough to do this in hardware with the //c+? Oh well, it's in there now, and ElectricDvorak exists for the earlier macs. I use it, love it, and strongly recommend it to anyone meeting the following criteria: can spend about 2 weeks of 30 minutes/day to practice -AND- ( is not a touch typist -OR- has any problem with RSI) It does, fairly reliably, generate a 50% speed-up in typing, with fewer errors. My wife, a qwerty touch-typist who then learned dvorak touch, reports that it does *not* interfere with qwerty touch-typing - she switches from one to the other with the only symptom being that she types about 30 seconds of gibberish before "locking in" on the new layout. I can't report from personal experience, because I'm a qwerty hunt-n-peck and dvorak touch. I'm at least 100% faster dvorak. I do recommend that you learn dvorak touch, because that'll accentuate the advantages of it, and because that way you don't need to rearrange the keycaps. A very useful demo is to have a Dvorak typist type while the "key caps" panel is open on a Mac. It's *amazing* how the little black dots seem to almost all flash on the home row... Available in modern Mac OS (as the dv or dq layouts, dq recommended because that way ctrl-x (cut), ctrl-c (copy), and ctrl-v (paste) are still one-handed operations). Available in modern Windows machines, look in the keyboard control panel. If you want to run it on an old Mac, let me know and I'll fix you up with ElectricDvorak (for sys 6.0.8 or later, I think) or the ElectricDvorak layout for more recent systems. - Mark

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CDC serial card for SGI...

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

Hi! I've just aquired a CDC 6-port serial card for my Personal Iris 4D/30. The model number might be CD23/3608, the ROM is labeled `CD83/3608-FW01 240757 V1.007 COPYRIGHT 1990 CENTRAL DATA CORP'. Anyone have a lead on the switch & jumper settings, or IRIX drivers? It looks like the ports can be set to either RS232A, RS232B or RS422. (I should look up the differences between A & B. I just donated a TI expansion chassis to Merle with a RS232B card in it) It also appears that the RAM can be upgraded from 16K to 64K, and it will take an EPROM of 64K (installed), 128K, 256K, or 512K. It should be a lot of fun to play with, I hope I can get it running. Built pretty good too, only turned-pin sockets. Bob

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OT: dumpster dive and water/mold cleanup

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>It grinds a new surface all right, it grinds the surface right off! I've never seen this thing but just a thought: were you grinding the wrong surface (seriously)? I think things would have to be pretty bad for me to use a grinding product on a CD. I do have what is essentially a soft pad (just to remove dust and prints and suchlike >from the surface) and I have seen various "CD restorer" kits (these seem to be mostly fluids that claim to fill in the scratches and prevent them from interfering with the data readback ... I'm not sure I believe that!) Antonio

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VMS stuff...

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> Quick question, does anyone know where to get the associated install kits to > go with the OpenVMS Hobbyist License PAKs? In order to run VMS on these > classic VAXen (3100/m76, etc...) I need a resource for the layered products. > ( macro32/64, pascal, etc...). > > Thanks, in advance, for the info! > > Mike N. The word on comp.os.vms is that the new Hobbyist CD's will be ready real soon now. Montagar software is sold out of the V7.2 VAX Hobbyist CD's, and the new ones should be V7.3. Your other options are to get something off of ePay, or to buy the CD's direct from Compaq/HP (tends to be very expensive). Personally, I use a combination of all three sources. Zane

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VMS stuff...

by mlnealey＠earthlink.net

Hi All, Quick question, does anyone know where to get the associated install kits to go with the OpenVMS Hobbyist License PAKs? In order to run VMS on these classic VAXen (3100/m76, etc...) I need a resource for the layered products. ( macro32/64, pascal, etc...). Thanks, in advance, for the info! Mike N.

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id this Digital card?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Found this while scrounging this past weekend. It's marked "Digital" and "LG Controller" and "5016948 01 F1". Besides plenty of SSI ICs, it contains an 8255, 8 27256 EPROMs and an Intel 80186 and a 50 pin ribbon cable header. It measures 11 1/2" deep x 10" wide and looks similar to a Multibus card with one wide and one narrow card edge connector. (the wide connector is only used for ground). I searched the on-line DEC Field Guide and Google but didn't find anything that sounded like it. Joe

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Looking to program a N82S181

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Bruce Thanks for the reply. I've found two people that have a DATA IO that takes these. I sent off for the ones that Jameco has in their catalog and it looks like they are fast enough for the application I have ( Olivetti M20 w/ Z8000 ). The 1K ones I got are Nationals and the 2K ones are Phillips. I'm still trying to figure out the PROM from the machine. There are some parts that don't make sense. The PROM is used for address mapping. Once I get it figured out, I can do the remapping I need to do. Later Dwight >From: "Bruce Lane" <kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com> > >Hi, Dwight, > >*********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > >On 26-Aug-02 at 17:45 Dwight K. Elvey wrote: > >>Hi >> Is there anyone that is in the silicon valley area >>that can program N82S181's? > > I'm about 800 or so miles north (southeast of Seattle), but I can program those if you don't mind doing mail order. > >>Also, does anyone have >>a source for or N82S181C parts? > > Yikes... No idea on that one. That particular part came from Signetics, and Signetics was bought out many moons ago by Phillips. > > You might try plugging the device number into the Google search engine and see what happens. > > My programming rates are on my web site at http://www.bluefeathertech.com/devices.html > > Let me know if you want to do the programming. > > Thanks much. > > >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, >Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com >ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com >"I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior >to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk) > >

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Changes

by rhb57＠vol.com

Had been un0subb'd for whatever reasons for a moth or two now and went to the Classiccmp.org site anmd see that all the off-topic, on-topic has been cured with a simple system (well maybe not simple for the admin anyway) and so far "I like". For now I'll likely lurk the list and see how things have changed rather than going back to regular conversation. I do like the changes so far, hopefully it will be just as nice between the 2 versions of the list.

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OT: '94 power mac looking for a home

by mtapley＠swri.edu

All, well, 2 years off-topic, anyway. A co-worker of mine is trying to find a good, preferably working home for a 1994 Power Mac. Send applications to me or sdykes(a)datasys.swri.edu . Sandy's not looking for any money for the machine, but has fond memories of it and wants to see it put someplace where it won't get trashed. Museums get preference, but let one of us know if you are interested. - Mark

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Quick intro and requests

by jfrim＠idirect.com

Hello, Just a quick introduction... My name's Justin, and I've been collecting old computers for quite a while now. Just joined the list today. :) Now for a requests: Among my collection is an NEC ProSpeed 286 laptop computer, which seems to be in full working condition. The only problem is I have no manuals, drivers, or utilities for it. I couldn't find anything on the internet despite extensive searching, and contacting NEC support as well as scouring through the NEC FTP site. My specific problems are I can't switch to the external video output, or activate the serial port, parallel port, or internal modem (which I think is 2400 bps). Second, I have a 486 Philips P 3464 server tower, which I think runs at 25 MHz but I'm not completely sure. Likewise, I don't have any software or documentation for it. Fortunately, I do have the key which was conveniently stuck in the keyswitch when I picked up the computer! And although it looks like it has a ROM based BIOS setup complete with a debugger, I have no idea how to use it's arcane interface and I can't even get the computer to boot from a hard drive! If anyone has any information on these computers, drivers, utilities, setup programs, etc, please let me know! Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -Justin

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trailing-edge.com

by bob_lafleur＠technologist.com

www.trailing-edge.com (and it's subordinates, like simh.trailing-edge.com) has been unresponsive for about a day now. Does anyone know if this is just temporary, or a permanent situation?

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QWERTY/Dvorak (was //c+ switch settings)

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Now this is *cool*!. Why didn't Apple include a Dvorak keymapping with the >early Mac's, if they knew enough to do this in hardware with the //c+? Oh >well, it's in there now, and ElectricDvorak exists for the earlier macs. I'm not sure when it first appeared, but they DID offer alternate key mappings on the early Macs. I know for sure they were available in System 6. Dvorak was just one of a few alternate maps (most dealt with international keyboards). I think this showed up VERY early in the Mac System Software (may have been there from the begining, but I'm not really sure). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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SGI Indigo..

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Aug 31, 8:02, Jeff Hellige wrote: > > > I also have a rebadged Logitech mouse, model# M-S43, SGI > >> part# 063-0010-001, that is dark gray, almost black in color. > I put a query on Usenet concerning the mouse and I got a > reply back stating that it had shipped with the 230/330/550 line of > workstations, as well as being shown in some product shots of the > Octane2. Ah, that makes sense. I've never paid much attention to those funny Intel things that SGI plasyed with for a while, but AFAIR some of them did have that sort of colour scheme. I wondered if the mouse had been from a rebadged machine, but 230/330/550 sounds more likely. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Epson Action Laser II spare parts

by wienke_geoff＠msn.com

We are looking for a few spare parts: paper guide output tray paper support Have 2 units - now with broken components. Looking for a source to buy these parts. Regards, Geoff wienke_geoff(a)msn.com

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OT: dumpster dive and water/mold cleanup

by mythtech＠mac.com

>There's a product called "Disc Doctor" that's supposed to clean >mold/mildew from vinyl LPs, as well as other aspects of cleaning them; >from what I've read, this cleaning solution was created by a chemist >who spent years researching and creating it. Don't confuse this with the "Disc Doctor" for CDs. The CD thing will destroy your discs. It is a hand crank unit that the CD clips into, and comes with a spray on chemical. You are supposed to use it with badly scratched or dirtied CDs. Spray the fluid on, clip it into the hand crank, and turn the crank. Then it rebuffs the CD surface, and "grinds" a new coat on it to remove sratches. Well, I have one, and after trying to recover 3 CDs with it and it didn't work, I decided to try it on a new CD (because I didn't like the looks of the CD when it was done). It rendered the new CD useless. And was repeatable on 4 more CDs (you know, just making sure I wasn't doing something wrong). It grinds a new surface all right, it grinds the surface right off! -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Serial floppy drives

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

Tim Linder asked: > Did anybody ever market a floppy disk system that communicated via > RS-232? The floppies for the Epson Geneva (PX-8) communicated via RS-232. Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

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old zenith mod. zwl -184-02

by longshot＠ptd.net

Found this old 'puter that works..has power supply as well. Appears to have modem built in..."Zenith Data Systems Supersport...Any further info?..........Lane Roberts

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Novell 68b File Server

by PHardwick＠cybersols.com.au

Hi All, I would like to contact Marvin Johnston who posted a message on Sun, 07 Jul 2002 16:52:49 in regards to parts of a computer collection that he was selling. I am interested in getting hold of a Novell 68b File Server (this was the one with the Motarola 68000 CPU). Could Marvin, or anyone that has one of these for sale please email me at PHardwick(a)cybersols.com.au. I am currently in the USA and not Australia as my email domain would suggest. Many thanks and Kind Regards, Paul.

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OT: dumpster dive and water/mold cleanup

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Small tin with white pop off cap, tin is covered in blue and white, >thick white stuff pours out of it on cloth and rubbed on tanished >metals to get it bright again. Sounds like a product around here called Noxon which I use all the time to restore metals. Since I already have some Noxon I'll give it a try on a CD before I hunt and see if I can find Brasso (since Chad says it's available here in the US). Now to burn a CD, and scratch it up to see if it works. Thanks -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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OT: dumpster dive and water/mold cleanup

by mythtech＠mac.com

>I've found that 'Brasso' applied by hand can descratch a CD >that was unreadable due to serious scratching and make it >useable. What's Brasso? -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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OT: dumpster dive and water/mold cleanup

by mythtech＠mac.com

>I've never seen this thing but just a thought: were you grinding the >wrong surface (seriously)? No, I followed the directions to the letter, a few times, just to see if I was doing something wrong. You are supposed to use it on the reading surface (as opposed to the lable side) >I think things would have to be pretty bad for me to use >a grinding product on a CD. It doesn't advertise that it "grinds", rather it says it "buffs" the scratches out. But after trying it out on a few CDs, grind is MUCH better word for it, as it litterally tears the surface of the CD apart (leaving behind a very scratched up surface that no longer reflects worth crap). >I do have what is essentially >a soft pad (just to remove dust and prints and suchlike >from the surface) and I have seen various "CD restorer" >kits (these seem to be mostly fluids that claim to fill in the >scratches and prevent them from interfering with the >data readback ... I'm not sure I believe that!) I have one of those too... and it works VERY well, although not for seriously scratched CDs, but ones that are really dirty, and have some mars on them, it works nicely. But it is a much more gentle process. It looks like an overgrown jewel case, you put the CD in it read side up, spray it with the fluid (which from the ingedients is little more than alcohol and gelatin from what I can gather), and then close the cover and spin the handle. It then rubs in a pseudo circular motion, a soft felt pad (like a mini car buffer) across the surface. You spin it for a bit until the CD looks shiney. Then remove it, let it dry fully (a few seconds) and so far, most all of the CDs I have used it on have come back to life, at least long enough for me to image the disc to be burned to a new CD. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Um, OK....

by mythtech＠mac.com

> Oh. Well, yeah. They're mostly the same folk. As contradictory as >that sounds, it is really the truth. Amazing how that is huh. They'll give you all the real junk, but toss the stuff that is of interest. >Let me guess. "But I thought you only like OLD Macs?" No, it was more along the lines of "Well, it never worked right for me anyway". My retort was simply "Yeah, but you're a moron" (I've known his brother since I was in the 3rd grade... so I can get away with calling him a moron and not fear that he will stiff me when he junks the iMac G4 in a month when he craps it up too.) And to add insult to my weekend... I just got back from my sister's house (had to fix her PC, her kids shoved the power button clean out of the front of the case). It seems her husband did the same thing to me. They got a new PC, and she planned to turn the old one into a kids gaming computer. But her husband decided it was taking up space and gave it to some guy he knows from work last month. At least I don't mind half as much with this one, it was only a P180 Compaq, this little black, non expandable desktop unit. And it went to another user rather than the trash. No serious loss. (although it would have made a nice tiny netBSD server since the thing was little bigger than a VCR) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Serial floppy drives

by doug_jackson＠citadel.com.au

One existed for the HP-48 series of calcs. It was called (I think) drive-95. The device used serial, and kermit to communicate with the calc for program storage. (I *reallllly* wanted one of those...) Doug Jackson MSS Operations Manager Citadel Securix (02) 6290 9011 (Ph) (02) 6262 6152 (Fax) (0414) 986 878 (mobile) > -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 8:40 AM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Serial floppy drives > > > On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, tim lindner wrote: > > Did anybody ever market a floppy disk system that communicated via > > RS-232? > > Yes, but, ... > Only one really "caught on" > Radio Shack "Portable Disk Drive" was sold for the Model 100. > It was serial, but not quite RS-232. The first version was > Single-Density? on a 3.5" disk. > > CAUTION - The information in this message may be of a privileged or confidential nature intended only for the use of the addressee or someone authorised to receive the addressee's e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify postmaster(a)citadel.com.au. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Citadel Securix. Feel free to visit the Citadel Securix website! Click below. http://www.citadel.com.au

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Fw: Vintage Computer for Sale: Ithaca DPS-1

by dogas＠bellsouth.net

Hi all, Here's a nice guy trying to sell his Ithaca DPS-1 and matching dual 8" drives. It sounds like they're in great shape. Tell him dogas sent you, but I'm not affiliated with the sale. Contact Ken at his net1plus.com account below if interested. Good luck! ;) - Mike: dogas(a)bellsouth.net From: Ken Silvestri <ksilvestri(a)net1plus.com> To: 'Mike' <dogas(a)bellsouth.net> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 11:27 AM Subject: RE: Vintage Computer for Sale > Hello Mike, > > Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, but I have the details you > were looking for. > > Ithaca Intersystems Mod# DPS-1, Ser. # MFD-0675 > > Boards: > * IA-2030 Rev.A 64K ram > * IA-2000 Rev.A Z-80A CPU > * IA-2020 Controller? > * IA-1190 Rev.B I/O > * Tecmar S-100 D/A > * Backplane, Thinker Toys w/20 edge sockets > > Floppy Drives: > 2-8" drives in matching enclosure > Ithaca Intersystems Mod# 950 > Ser# DBD 0608 > > All switches and lights on the front panel appear to be functional. > The whole system is in excellent shape and includes the cables. > > I will let it go for any reasonable offer. > > Live well and prosper, > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Ken Silvestri > > > > > > T: 978-597-8018 > > > F: 978-597-2309 > > > E: ksilvestri(a)net1plus.com > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Olivetti M24 monitor

by wrm＠ccii.co.za

Hi all >Display Frequrency: 24 MHz >Horizontal Freq: 25,862 kHz >Vertical Freq: 59,873 Hz >Dots per trace: 640 >Number of Traces: 400 >Power Supply: 15V +- 1.5% Thanks, Robert. Just a tad too low to use a VGA monitor. Anyone know how to crank the horizontal scan rate on a VGA monitor down? Should be do-able, no? >I have a block diagram (from AT&T 6300 Plus docs), which I can scan and send >you if you want it. I think the monitor this guy has is pretty toasted. I'd like to replace it, not to try and repair it. Do you have the pinouts for that connector, maybe? Thanks Wouter

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SGI Indigo..

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Aug 30, 1:01, cvisors(a)carnagevisors.net wrote: > Thanks for all of this information, it looks as if the mouse, which looks > like the right sort of mouse, is one of the mice used for the Indigo2. > Which unfortunatly is a PS/2 mouse, the person I got the indigo from, > though is going to have a bit of a poke round and see if he can find the > original mouse. Its from a university who are pretty anal about keeping > all of these things together. so hopefully it will turn up.. Maybe this will help: there are basically 4 mice that have been used on SGIs. Some early 4D's used an optical mouse made by Mouse Systems, rather rectangular in shape; it's possible to convert some old Sun optical mice to SGI use and vice-versa (see the 4DFAQ aka "This Old SGI" for details). BTW, having the mouse work correctly on one axis but not the other is a common symptom of using a mouse pad with the wrong line spacing. Some people have in the past incorrectly attributed this to "one of the LEDs not working", but in fact the perceived non-illumination is because one LED is visible red and the other is infrared. Most Personal Irises and the original Indigo (both R3000 and R4000 models) use a Mouse Systems mechanical mouse, which has a 6-pin miniDIN that plugs into the keyboard. This is basically a serial mouse. It's a beige colour, same as the keyboard, with about 32" of cable, part no 9150800. Benjamin, are you sure you've not misread the last digit? I've checked half-a-dozen mice in case I had any variants... The Indigo^2, Indy, and later machines use a PS/2 type mouse, also 6-pin miniDIN, which plugs into the machine (which has two PS/2 ports, one for the mouse and one for the keyboard). The first ones were made by Mouse Systems and look just like the earlier Indigo serial mice, except that they are normally granite (grey) in colour, have a much longer cable -- about 105" -- and a different part number: 063-0001-001. The very earliest ones, however, were beige (the earliest Indy keyboards were beige). Later Indys, and O2/Octane/Origin/Onyx2 and the like, were sold with a PS/2 mouse made by Logitek. It's a rebadged 3-button Pilot mouse (equivalent Logitek type M-S35), also granite coloured, part no 063-0009-001. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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cctalk digest, Vol 1 #152 - 52 msgs

by foxnhare＠bigvalley.net

From: Tothwolf <tothwolf(a)concentric.net> Subject: OT: dumpster dive and water/mold cleanup You might want to contact the libraries in your area for companies that do freeze-drying too, since this is a big amout of items and there are contractors with large faciltiies (though I would hope you could get the family to chip in as they want some of the stuff you rescued for them) Larry -- 01000011 01001111 01001101 01001101 01001111 01000100 01001111 01010010 01000101 Larry Anderson - Sysop of Silicon Realms BBS (209) 754-1363 300-14.4k bps Set your 8-bit C= rigs to sail for http://www.portcommodore.com/ 01000011 01001111 01001101 01010000 01010101 01010100 01000101 01010010 01010011

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ASR33 questions

by ekklein＠pacbell.net

I just received one of William's ASR33s and it appears to be in good working order. I am not at all familiar with these machines so I have a few questions about their operation and interfacing. First off, when I power on this unit the "main" motor doesn't run. It turns when moved manually, but it won't move by itself. Depending on the motor position at power-up (I think) I sometimes hear what sounds like a warning buzzer. Is there something I'm doing wrong? How would I run this machine in "local" mode? Once I figure out that this machine is working (I assume the problems are mine and not the machines) I'd like to hook it up to my Altair (which is now running great thanks to Dwight!). How would I go about doing this? I'm guessing I'll need some sort of box to interface between the TTY and RS232, but I haven't yet found any information on that. Can anyone point me to an article, website or some other source of information on this? If I manage to get that all done, is there anyone on this list who has software on paper tape that I could get copies of? I'd be most interested in a BASIC variant and any BASIC programs that could run on it, but anything else would be great. What am I missing? Is there anything else I should know? Thanks! Erik S. Klein www.vintage-computing.com

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OT: dumpster dive and water/mold cleanup

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 9/1/2002 12:29:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kenziem(a)sympatico.ca writes: > On Sunday 01 September 2002 06:07, Tothwolf wrote: > > > >I am currently trying to figure out how to clean/salvage books that were > >exposed to the water, and since the texts are irreplaceable, I'm hesitant > >in what I try. Many books have a very fine powder-like mold on their > >covers, while the pages are ok. Some books have small amounts of mold > >growing on the edges of the pages. > > > Get the books into a freezer! > > They will freeze dry and the cold will slow/stop the mold growth. > I did that once, but I dont think just placing them in the freezer is enough detail. I had ice crystals on my books. I guess they have to go in plastic bags.

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Great HD Guide

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Stopped at a new thrift in the area Friday and picked up several books (19) and one is titled The Hard Disk Technical Guide by Douglas T. Anderson PCS Publications March 1991. In it all list of various hard drives and their spec's but the best part is the listing of various controller cards and their jumper setting's (93 pages). There is lots of other good information in it and it's a total of 224 pages long and cost me a big 20 cents plus tax. This will help a lot in working with older cards when trying to get the right jumper settings. If anyone needs help with a card email me and I will see if it's listed in the book.

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Info needed: Old video card

by macmcc3＠aol.com

I am looking for the EISA "CFG" file for the trident tvga8900c video card. If you have it or know where I can get it, it would be appreciated. Mac Mccurdy mac_mcc3(a)juno.com

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PDP-9 lives again....

by hansp＠aconit.org

Some 20 odd years after it was decommisioned we finally got our PDP-9 to boot software off an old DECTape. Advanced Software System version 5A came up today for the first time on our restored -9. This after a long and frustrating summer when we spent over 100 man hours chasing a processor fault which resulted in the execution of the saved PC value after an interrupt (instead of the word after the saved PC value). Turned out to be a misaligned delay circuit which caused a reset signal to arrive late and provoke all sorts of havoc in the processor while nicely reseting all the tell-tales. Seems like the memory and processor hardware is quite stable now. We have two DECtape units attached with two more units availabe to be attached. Further debug on the DECtapes and learning the software will be followed by attachemnt of TU20 mag tape units. If anyone knows of an available (and cheap) large X-Y plotting scope preferably somewhere in europe we would be very interested in hearing >from you. We have a graphics controller but no large screen. With the screen, the DECtapes and the TU20's this is going to be one impressive system. We also used the -9 for the first time today to try and recover an image >from an old Elliott 903 paper tape I was given in the UK recently. Due to operator error that attempt failed but I fully expect to be able to get a tape image this weekend. -- hbp

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S-100 Board Info Needed

by r.stek＠snet.net

This reply is a bit late, but I just received my digests this morning.... Although I have contributed some items, the Sol site is Jim Battle's - not mine. It is a wonderful resource for Processor Technology, the Sol, and also has some NorthStar materials. Jim's SolACE emulator is one of the best classic computer emulators I am familiar with. So if you haven't been there, I suggest a visit: http://www.thebattles.net/sol20/sol.html Bob Stek Saver of Lost Sols

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Old DOS software

by tony＠baechler.net

Hello all. I am looking for MSDOS software from the early 1980's. I have some leads, but not many. Specifically, what I want is the entire PC-BLUE, PC-SIG, and any other similar collections. I would prefer to download them >from someone and burn my own CDs but if you have them on CD-ROM and you are willing to sell that is fine. Here are what leads I have. I looked on google for PC-BLUE and found that oak.oakland.edu apparently had everything but are long gone. I used to download from there in 1997 but apparently there are no full mirrors left. However, ftp.mirror.ac.uk has several disks but nothing past 1989. I know that there were more than this by a 1991 post I found from the old simtel20 indicating that volumes were still being added. I would like the full set, even files into the 1990's. Regarding PC-SIG, google showed almost nothing at all. I tried every set of keywords I could think of, but there is very little to be found. Again, ftp.mirror.ac.uk had quite a bit but cut off at 1989. I know they had at least 1,000 disks, probably over 2,000. I used to download them from a local BBS many years ago, so I know they sold a CD-ROM. If I could buy or download that somehow I would be very happy. They are now out of business. Amazon might have it but I doubt it since they cannot get them >from the publisher and have been known to offer items which they did not really have. Finally, I found another directory called COMUG which I assume was another user group. Does anyone know if there are any other disks from them besides those posted? I am in the US. You can write either on or off-list if you can help. I have no ftp upload space unfortunately. I can use .iso CD images. Sorry if this is off topic, but the FAQ seems to not be working.

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Looking for SIMMs for PS/2 P70 386

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

Thanks to the local college boyz, I now have a slightly misused P70 to play on. The previous owner was kind enough to break off the retaining clips when he pulled the memory, but other than that it seems to be usable. Booting without any memory elicts a `211' error early in the POST, and booting with one or more of 8MB (IIRC) SIMMS gives a 225 error. I did a little research, and it seems that the max SIMM it'll take is a 2MB parity part, I know don't have any of those. Anyone happen to have a spare 8MB kit? Also, I'm looking for the S/370 card for it, if anyone has an extra they'd like to get rid of. ^_^ Bob

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ASR33 questions

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Aug 31, 18:59, Erik S. Klein wrote: > I just received one of William's ASR33s and it appears to be in good > working order. I am not at all familiar with these machines so I have a > few questions about their operation and interfacing. > > First off, when I power on this unit the "main" motor doesn't run. It > turns when moved manually, but it won't move by itself. Depending on > the motor position at power-up (I think) I sometimes hear what sounds > like a warning buzzer. Is there something I'm doing wrong? How would I > run this machine in "local" mode? Sounds vaguely similar to a problem I have (occasionally) with mine. Sometimes the motor noise starts to rise and fall slightly, as if the motor is struggling; eventually it blows the fuse. In my case, I suspect the problem is something binding (needing adjustment) and/or needing correct lubrication. There are lots of parts that need lubrication, and it's definitely NOT a case of oiling or greasing everything in sight! There should be a knob on the front right. Turn left for online, centre off, right for local. > Once I figure out that this machine is working (I assume the problems > are mine and not the machines) I'd like to hook it up to my Altair > (which is now running great thanks to Dwight!). How would I go about > doing this? I'm guessing I'll need some sort of box to interface > between the TTY and RS232, but I haven't yet found any information on > that. Can anyone point me to an article, website or some other source > of information on this? You'll need a couple of RS232-to-20mA current loop converter circuits, one for the Tx line and one for Rx. Usually a small power supply, a couple of opto-isolators, and just a few other components. > What am I missing? Is there anything else I should know? Probably ;-) But I'd get the machine working in local mode before you start worring about interfacing it. David Gesswein's excellent site at www.pdp8.net has the ASR33 manuals in the document archive. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Any body know anything about :Laser P5

by rhudson＠cnonline.net

It's a small keyboard and 80x8 line display. built in software seems to be a word processor, spreadsheet, calculator, database (1 text field), Phone numbers, spell checker. seems to be aimed at the ed market. I picked it up because there is a legend on the outside that suggests it runs some kind of BASIC, but the option turned out to be a keyboarding drill. Anyway, found lots of surface stuff on the web, but I am interested in: 1) what processor 2) pinout of IO port on back 3) Can I add a BASIC (I don't mind if I can junk the WP et all at the same time) here's the Place that made it: http://www.perfectsolutions.com Hey Sellam, what would you want to trade for it? : ^ ) Thanks! ron

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id this Data I/O part

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I found a small circuit board marked "Data I/O", "702-1072" and "Plug in Adapter". There is also a paper label on the board that says "910-1347-1 E". It has two 16 pin DIP ICs on it. I can't see their part numbers because they have paper labels on them. The board mounts using three metal standoffs and has a row of 14 pins along the left and right hand edges. Can anyone tell me what it is? Joe

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ASR 33, KSR 43, Friden Flexowriter

by dna63＠optonline.net

Perhaps you may have some interest in these machines? Currently have 3 ASR 33's 2 with omni modems, one with relays 1 KSR 33 programable 1 Friden Flexowriter, that I saw as imput to a cray computer at a computer museum on the web.

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Zenith SuperSport

by vcf＠siconic.com

The following system is available in New York, NY. Not free but taking offers: Zenith Data Systems supersPORT SX, model ZWL-0300-10, serial number 039DF001098. In addition, I have (i) two rapid charge batteries, model ZA-180-85, for the unit, (ii) two Handok model CL40-7601 110 - 240 volt, 50/60 Hz AC power supply units, part number 150410-2, serial numbers 890610730 and 90055756, and (iii) (w) Zenith Data Systems external full card expansion unit model ZA-3040-EB, serial number 009EE002110. Reply privately for contact information. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Misc computer boards available for trade

by justin＠frontierproductions.com

Hi, I am looking for a Truevision NuVista+ video capture card for an old Apple Quadra 950 computer of mine made in 1990. Any ideas where to find one? Justin

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Looking for Intel pds Prom programming software

by sid.jones＠gb.abb.com

This is a very late reply to the above message (read in 2002!) but I have a few bits and pieces of Intel memorabilia loitering in my archives. Can't remember if I've dumped the 2nd hand PDS I owned, but I've still got the system discs.. Sid Jones email : jonesthechip(a)logicmagic.co.uk

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Fwd: FW: Looking for REAL old parts (IBM 5155 + 5170)

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Got a fellow here offering up an old IBM 5160 PC. If anyone is interested, please contact him directly. Thanks much. *********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** On 29-Aug-02 at 07:05 williamkepler(a)webtv.net <williamkepler(a)webtv.net> wrote: > You have an antique query on the web about an antique system.......I >aquired an IBM 5160. If I can't find a modulator for it I will attempt >to sell it.....interested ? > It has CGA and the rest of the usuals. 2 5 1/4 floppy drives and >10Mb hard. > > *********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)

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Looking to program a N82S181

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Is there anyone that is in the silicon valley area that can program N82S181's? Also, does anyone have a source for or N82S181C parts? This is for an Olivetti M20 that I'm working on. Dwight

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DG Aviion & 3 phase supplies

by Qstieee＠aol.com

While I agree with the other answer that often there are several single phase supplies inside, connected to separate phases, note that there are some commercial solutions if you truly have one big power supply with a three phase primary on the transformer. See http://www.phaseconverter.com/ and http://www.phase-a-matic.com/ for example. These devices have a long life time and can be found on industrial surplus markets (which of course are on the web too)

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ASR33 questions

by classiccmp＠vintage-computer.com

I just received one of William's ASR33s and it appears to be in good working order. I am not at all familiar with these machines so I have a few questions about their operation and interfacing. First off, when I power on this unit the "main" motor doesn't run. It turns when moved manually, but it won't move by itself. Depending on the motor position at power-up (I think) I sometimes hear what sounds like a warning buzzer. Is there something I'm doing wrong? How would I run this machine in "local" mode? Once I figure out that this machine is working (I assume the problems are mine and not the machines) I'd like to hook it up to my Altair (which is now running great thanks to Dwight!). How would I go about doing this? I'm guessing I'll need some sort of box to interface between the TTY and RS232, but I haven't yet found any information on that. Can anyone point me to an article, website or some other source of information on this? If I manage to get that all done, is there anyone on this list who has software on paper tape that I could get copies of? I'd be most interested in a BASIC variant and any BASIC programs that could run on it, but anything else would be great. What am I missing? Is there anything else I should know? Thanks! Erik S. Klein www.vintage-computing.com

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Um, OK....

by mythtech＠mac.com

> One of the well-known two-edged factors in collecting like we do is >the fact that all your friends/neighbors/colleagues/family decide you're >a better option than Goodwill. "Don't throw out that rusty 3.5" floppy >drive! Doc _collects_ that stuff!" Oh gee, and I just have the a-hole friends that use me for tech support for the life of their computer, and then when they decide to upgrade it, they throw out the old one without even ASKING if I wanted it!!!! (sorry, I'm a bit bitter since a friend's younger brother just did this to me. He had an iMac that he bought used, and had been having problems with, and has been using me for the last two years for support to keep it running. Well, he got sick of it this week, and bought a new one. I found out last night when my friend was raving about how great his brother's new iMac G4 was... and when I asked what he did with the old one, I just about drove over there to choke the living shit out of the kid when I was told that it went in the garbage on Wednesday's curbside pickup) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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WTD: CDP1861 and other RCA COSMAC parts

by philpem＠dsl.pipex.com

Hi, I'm currently trying to build a COSMAC Elf, but unfortunately I can't find any RCA CDP1861 "Pixie" video controllers anywhere. Has anyone got some spares they feel like parting with? I've nearly got everything I need to build an Elf, sans the Pixie chip. Some CDP1822 COSMOS RAMs would also be nice. Right now I don't care if the parts are NOS, pulls or NOS in need of serious cleaning. I just want these parts so I can build a COSMAC Elf! Thanks. -- Phil. philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/ PGP Key ID: 0x0E18C95F PGP Key Fingerprint: 2741 5CB7 1D45 6F77 D1FC FA3D 7A87 2DA4 0E18 C95F

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