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CoCo's *are* real... (was: OT: PC Motherboard with a vacuum tube

by tlindner＠ix.netcom.com

> On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Roger Merchberger wrote: > >> Define "real" -- Admittedly, the CoCo1's chicklet keyboard sucked bigtime, >> but The CoCo2/3's keyboard is as good as anything made nowadays... (that's > > With one glaring exception: NO CONTROL KEY. > > What computer comes without a CONTROL key? Sellam's been dying to bring that up. Did you notice that "Control" key on that CoCo 3 of yours? Anyway I think most CoCo 1-2 terminal emulators use the Break key as a control key. Not very slick, but it worked. What really sucked was the 32 column screen. I never bought one of the many 80 column cards, they were all serial based. Only useful under OS-9. It is funny how many places you wil find Motorola's VDG (MC6847). > That and the RF video out only with no built-in composite video output > would have made the CoCo a complete lemon if it weren't for the > brilliance of the users that managed to extend and expand it. And OS-9 > was also a definite plus. I'm curious, what experience have you had with OS-9? -- tim lindner tlindner(a)ix.netcom.com "Life. Don't talk to me about life." - Marvin, the android

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Who was looking for old VMS for an 11/750??

by jwillis＠arielusa.com

Cool. So you have an 11/750. I'm curious, what did you do about powering it? I heard they require three-phase 240V power. best john -----Original Message----- From: Brian Hechinger Sent: Sat 9/14/2002 1:32 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Cc: Subject: Re: Who was looking for old VMS for an 11/750?? On Sat, Sep 14, 2002 at 12:33:51PM -0600, John Willis wrote: > I'm looking for an actual 11/750 system. but this message has > piqued my curiosity. Do 11/750s not run the VMS hobbyist > kit from montagar? * The minimum memory requirement for OpenVMS Vax Version 7.2 is 4 megabytes. Additional components, such as DECnet for OpenVMS VAX, DIGITAL TCP/IP Services, or VAXcluster, require more memory to ensure satisfactory performance. * The MA780 shared memory is not supported. * You cannot install or upgrade to the OpenVMS VAX Version 7.2 operating system on the following VAX computers and system disks: Computers: MicroVAX I, VAXstation I, VAXstation 8000, VAX--11/725, and VAX--11/782 System disks: RK07, RL02, RC25, RD32, RD51, RD52, RD53, RZ22, RZ25, and RZ23L so the answer is, with enough memory, and the right disks, yes you can. however, the reasons for running pre-7.2 are usually nostalgic. i run 7.2 on all my machines, but only because i'm new to VMS and don't need the added confusion of multiple versions. plus there is the fact that i have all my VAXen clustered, so they all need to be about the same version. for nostalgia, i have an 11/750 that has 4.3 BSD on it since that was where i had my first unix account in college. -brian -- "Oh, shut up Buddha." -Jesus Christ (South Park)

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Who was looking for old VMS for an 11/750??

by jwillis＠arielusa.com

I'm looking for an actual 11/750 system. but this message has piqued my curiosity. Do 11/750s not run the VMS hobbyist kit from montagar? -----Original Message----- From: Brian Hechinger Sent: Sat 9/14/2002 11:07 AM To: Classic CMP Cc: Subject: Who was looking for old VMS for an 11/750?? email me off list. i might be able to help you out. -brian -- <ed> i'm trying to use a windows shell function to move a directory... <ed> and it reports that it failed with the error "the operation completed successfully"

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HP CS/80 Instruction Set Programmers Manual (5955-3442)

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

I did get a private reply with a temporary pointer to the CS/80 spec so I now have a copy. Thanks to some help from Bob I got past the HP 2117F power supply issue so now the box is not totally dead. Some day after I figure out a lot more about how this system works I'll have to try building an HPIB cable to connect to the 12821A disc interface in the system and see if I can get it to talk to one of my CS/80 drives. Apparently this box has a CS/80 boot prom which I have been told is not too common. -Glen >From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: HP CS/80 Instruction Set Programmers Manual (5955-3442) Date: >Fri, 13 Sep 2002 17:14:48 > >At 11:22 PM 9/12/02 -0700, you wrote: > >Does anyone on the list have a copy of this manual that can be copied or > >scanned, or is there a scanned copy on the net somewhere already? > > > I think Frank McConnell has one. He used to be on this list but I >haven't seen anything from him in quite a spell. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Deskstation Raptor 3 for sale.

by listor＠melin.org

Available in the Stockholm, Sweden area, I have to get rid of some computers due to the wife-is-getting-sort-of-mad-at-this-computer-collecting-business-problem and this one must go : Deskstation Raptor 3, featuring : Full Tower Case Alpha 21164 UniFlex Motherboard 4 PCI / 3 ISA slots Dual SCSI II ports 2 serial / 1 parallel ports 1.44 Floppy Drive 96MB RAM / 2MB SRAM Cache 1.9GB SCSI II Hard Drive S3 something VGA card (will produce 1024x768 in 16bit color) 10/100 NIC with Digital chipset that works great with NT4 The computer works great. The only thing that needs replacing are two 8cm fans that was mounted in the front panel of the case. They were completely shot and I removed them a while ago. Please email any bids, small or large to joacim at melin dot org. I will ship wherever but please bare in mind that this box runs on 220 volts power and purchaser will pay for all shipping costs and other fees. I don't have any illusions of making a ton of money out of this box but I want it to find a good home and not being dumped somewhere, which is what will happen if I don't find a new owner for it. To sum up - it's a great box. It won't run Linux or any flavor of BSD but it's still a great machine to run as a server. I have tried to boot the Windows 2000 RC1 beta on it but it never get's pass the boot screen... Joacim

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Have DG AV530s, need media/docs

by classiccmp＠crash.com

I've recently come into posession of two working Data General AViiON AV530 workstations, and an as-yet un-tested AV410. Copyrights on the PCBs indicate a 1990 provenence so I think I'm okay WRT list rules... ;^) First question: Anybody have bootable media that they could see fit to duplicate or loan? None of the BSDs seem to have made it to the DG m88k boxes, though many people have asked and some work has been done. (Last time I checked was a while ago, though...) Second: Anybody have docs for this model, paper or 'lectronic? Third: The AV530s are dual-capable - can I just pull the CPU from one AV530 and pop it on top of the connector blocks on the other AV530? Wouldn't mind hearing from someone before I discover the answer myself via a smoke test... There are jumpers that are labeled clearly WRT running sinle- or dual-processor, but is there anything else I need to know? Thanks, --Steve. Steve Jones ...!uunet!crash.com!smj Arlington, Mass. CRASH!! Computing (any spambots parse bang paths?) "Chaos will ensue if the variable i is altered..." - SysV Programmers Guide

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Available - UK- Tricom Custodian II Network Security Controller

by dave＠naffnet.org.uk

Hi, Looking for a home is a Tricom Custodian II network security controller. This is a device that sits between modems and equipment to be protected (host computer/terminal server etc.), and provides a layer of extra security, including ring-back. This is a 19" rack-mounting unit with dual (one redundant) power supplies. The frame itself consists of a backplane that accepts HD63B09 (6809 compatible) SBCs, each controlling two host/modem pails (four serial lines). The frame accepts one Supervisory Module. and up to 16 Line modules (the cards are distinguished only by their firmware). The Supervisory Module has connects to a serial log printer and a terminal. With the frame comes the SM and four LMs, and cables to suit (so up to eight lines could be protected). There is a manual, too, but I have put it in a safe place, so it'll have to follow the unit when it re-surfaces. The system is menu-driven, and is fairly intuitive, so this should not be a problem. I am looking for some sort of swap:- I would love a KA655 CPU for my uVAX, perhaps with some (up to two) 16MB memory cards to suit, or a very basic EIS '11 QBUS system (no need for storage, just CPU/serial/memory). I am, of course, open to other offers... The beast weighs in the region of 12Kg, plus cables, so collection might be the best option (west Berkshire), although I'm sure that Parcel Force would appreciate the business. Cheers, Dave.

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Your M20 problems

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Hans It just occurred to me that your system may have the same problem mine did when I first got it. I was seeing occasional bad reads. I took the drives apart to clean the heads when I noticed something funny. Both disk drives had terminators installed. I removed one of these and my problems went away. It was such a long time ago that I'd forgot about it. While tracing down signals for my 512K fix, I noticed the terminator R-Pack that I'd taped to the disk drive ( I try to follow the first rule of intelligent tinkering: "Save All the Pieces" ). I had to go back through the thought process of why it was there. Eventually, I remembered that you were having drive problems. Strange how the mind works sometimes. Dwight

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CP/M-8000

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi He should also be aware of the manuals at: http://www.spies.com/~aek/pdf/digitalResearch/ and http://www.retrocomputing-world.com/biblio/cpu/z8000/z8000.html Chris and I are working on getting CPM-8000 up and running on our M20's. It has been a slow project. I just yesterday figured out how to get the machines to take 512K of RAM ( CPM8000 needed 128K of free RAM and the normal 224K system was not big enough ). Chris is already quite handy with the assembler but I've mostly been looking at hardware issues with the help of the manuals from Hans Pufal. Progress is being made but it is slow. It takes me several hours to pull the 16K DRAMs to stick in 64K one on the expansion boards. I currently only have one card modified for a total of 256K ( w/ motherboard ). When I do all three, I'll be at 512K ( a power user ). Dwight >From: "Christian Groessler" <cpg(a)aladdin.de> > >Hi, > >On 09/13/2002 10:55:11 PM ZE2 jurjen.kranenborg wrote: >> >>In case you still are looking for it, here's the link to the >>officilial DR distribution of CP/M-8000 tuned to the M20: >>http://www.cpm.z80.de/source.html >>On this page you will find the link to CP/M-8000 distributions > >Thanks. I knew this already :-) > > >>I have a few questions concerning the z8001 and accompanying >>software, may I get in contact with you about this (I am planning to >>build a Z8001 system myself (in the year 2002? Yes, because I bought >>the parts in 1985 and I rediscovered them just recently) > >Yes, sure. > >regards, >chris > >

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CP/M-8000

by cpg＠aladdin.de

Hi, On 09/13/2002 10:55:11 PM ZE2 jurjen.kranenborg wrote: > >In case you still are looking for it, here's the link to the >officilial DR distribution of CP/M-8000 tuned to the M20: >http://www.cpm.z80.de/source.html >On this page you will find the link to CP/M-8000 distributions Thanks. I knew this already :-) >I have a few questions concerning the z8001 and accompanying >software, may I get in contact with you about this (I am planning to >build a Z8001 system myself (in the year 2002? Yes, because I bought >the parts in 1985 and I rediscovered them just recently) Yes, sure. regards, chris

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HP CS/80 Instruction Set Programmers Manual (5955-3442)

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

Does anyone on the list have a copy of this manual that can be copied or scanned, or is there a scanned copy on the net somewhere already? I have a couple of CS/80 HPIB disk drives and I am curious how they are controlled and would like to read the CS/80 programming manual if I can find one. The drives I have are a 9133H which is a combo 20MB hard drive and floppy drive unit which I have used with my HP IPC, and a 2203A which is a whopping 670MB dual disk unit which I haven't hooked up to anything yet. Was that the biggest CS/80 HPIB drive HP ever made? Some day I'll try interfacing one of the drives to the HP 2117F box I have if I can ever figure out how to get it to power up. -Glen _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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WTB: DEC VAX 11/750 in New Mexico, W. Texas, Arizona

by jwillis＠arielusa.com

Wanted to buy: Digital Equipment Corporation VAX 11/750 system In New Mexico, West Texas or Arizona would be best as these are heavy and expensive to ship. John Perkins Willis Software Engineer/Database Architect Ariel Technologies (505) 524-6860 jwillis(a)arielusa.com

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Almost OT?: The origin of the smiley emoticon...

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Eric Smith [mailto:eric@brouhaha.com] > > > > Is that the article that claims that no smiley's were ever > used before > > 1982? > > He doesn't claim that. He claims that he independently > invented it and started the use of it on the Internet. > Actually, if you go the the bottom of the page here... http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~sef/sefSmiley.htm ... I don't think he is claiming that he started the use of it, he seems to only be concluding that. He says "...but it is pretty clear from the timing that my suggestion was the one that finally took hold..." Of course, everyone interprets written words in different ways... -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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74H52 chip

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

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ATM NIC trade?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

I have the opportunity to set up some ATM networking kit and I'd like to include one of my SGI machines in the system. I'm looking for a GIO bus ATM NIC for an Indy or Indigo2. I have a brand-new-in-box Newbridge VIVID S-Bus ATM (OC-3, 155Mb/s) card with Solaris drivers to trade, preferably to someone in the UK. BTW, anyone (again, in the UK, because you'd have to collect it) want some Newbridge ATM kit, going fairly cheap? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Broken mouse!

by hansp＠aconit.org

I have been asked if I can repair or replace a broken mouse. It is for a CDC Cyber 910 workstation, the mouse is obviously manufactured by Mouse Systems, its number is MSC 401162-006/E The connection is a DE9 male connector which connects to the system keyboard. The problem is that the mouse was dropped and only one LED works. The mouse allows horizontal cursor movement but not vertical. If anyone has a replacement available or can provide additional information please contact me off list. -- hbp

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Reveal external CD-ROM

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 11, 23:55, Justin Frim wrote: > $20 to anyone who can find me an MS-DOS driver for a Reveal external 2X CD-ROM drive, model CD 610, FCC ID: > 138-EXT-CDROMSLM > > Specifics: > ISA controller card: Reveal Computer Products Inc, V1.2, FCC ID: 138-MMCD861 > CD-ROM drive: Matsushita-Kotobuki Electronics Industries Ltd, model CD-563-B, FCC ID: IUO9TB008CRB > > DIP switch information for switch bank SW1 on the controller card would also be useful. Did you try a Google search? I did, after I discovered there wasn't enough information in your message or my old Reveal manuals to be sure what I have is what you want. The first hit for "reveal CD610" leads to this page: http://ellingson.com/reveal/products/cdrom/ which will allow you to tell which model you really have, and download the drivers atc. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Software & docs for Shiva Fastpath 4 box

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 12, 9:51, Ethan Dicks wrote: > --- Carlos Murillo <carlos_murillo(a)epm.net.co> wrote: > > >> Now I have another question: How do you connect the Fastpath 4's > > >> DE-9 Localtalk connector to a phonenet network? > > >With a standard (ancient) DE-9<->PhoneNet adapter. Barring that, I > > >have made DIN-8 to DE-9 LocalTalk adapters > > > > >You would need a female DIN-8 connector to go the other way. > > > > That would be the trickiest part... I think that I should > > try wiring the DE9 directly to a 4wire phone cable; it is easier > > to find a phone cable than a female DIN8. > > That won't work. The LocalTalk/PhoneNet adapters are not passthrus. > Apple LocalTalk adapters contain self-terminating connectors (the > plastic pip in the end of the cable pushes on a switch that disengages > the internal terminator; PhoneNet adapters use RJ-11s with > external terminators), and both adapters contain at least a transformer, > IIRC to couple the Mac to the network. There might also be a resistor > or two in the adapter. I haven't opened up one in over 10 years. All the commercial LocalTalk and Phonenet adaptors contain an isolating transformer, which is carefully designed to preserve nice clean square waves from one side of the interface to the other. Note that you can't just use any old small transformer! There's a web page describing the innards at http://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/MiscInfo/Hardware/appletalk.phonenet It's also commonly believed that the Farallon Phonenet system using unsheilded cable works better than Apple's own grounded shielded cable system. However, I have seen one DIY design that didn't use an isolating transformer. Called CapNet, it was intended for small networks, and used capacitors to acheive some degree of isolation. A slightly updated version was claimed to work with printers and the like. http://hyperarchive.lcs.mit.edu/HyperArchive/Abstracts/info/hdwr/at-connect… http://www.loten-am-mac.yucom.be/cap1.htm -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Reveal external CD-ROM

by jfrim＠idirect.com

$20 to anyone who can find me an MS-DOS driver for a Reveal external 2X CD-ROM drive, model CD 610, FCC ID: 138-EXT-CDROMSLM Specifics: ISA controller card: Reveal Computer Products Inc, V1.2, FCC ID: 138-MMCD861 CD-ROM drive: Matsushita-Kotobuki Electronics Industries Ltd, model CD-563-B, FCC ID: IUO9TB008CRB DIP switch information for switch bank SW1 on the controller card would also be useful. BTW, I'm not really offering $20... just gratitude. But that's priceless, right? ;) And if anyone's wondering why I'd want to use such an old peripheral, it's because it's going on a dedicated network server I'm setting up (FTP, HTTP, SMTP, NAT, Socks5, and DHCP). The server only needs a CD-ROM for two things: #1, installing the operating system (Win32. Don't laugh. I'm no UNIX pro) and software distributed by CD (this is a one-time thing). #2, providing an "online CD of the week" available for download by FTP and HTTP (the bottleneck will be in the server's internet connection bandwidth anyways, not the CD-ROM speed)

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VAXstation 3520 (was: Re: MasPar, anyone?)

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

Jochen Kunz wrote: > On 2002.09.11 08:18 Roger Ivie wrote: > > They used the VAXstation 3520 because they got a real good deal on > > them from DEC, who was anxious to sell the thing. I designed the > > interface between the 3520 and the MasPar which, AFAIK, was the > > only 3rd party interface done for the 3520's proprietary MBUS. > Du you still have access to doc about the VAXstation 3520 and its MBUS? > NetBSD on a VS 3520 or 3540 would be so nice as NetBSD VAX supports SMP > for more than a year now... I do have some docs. The stuff I have is mostly hardware oriented; it talks about the bus protocol more than the registers and console firmware implementation, which is what you would be interested in. However, I'm in the process of moving, so I'm not sure what box it would be in. I also don't know what the NetBSD group's attitude toward underground document shipments is; I acquired the stuff under NDA and was probably supposed to destroy it when the project was over. If someone had a good way to anonymously donate sensitive documents to the NetBSD project, I might have several they would be interested in. Or perhaps not. It may be the case that I could put my hands on a copy of the MSCP spec, for instance. Or maybe I just talk big and don't actually have that sort of stuff lying around. I definitely may or may not have a copy of the SOC CPU spec, which could (or could not) be interesting to the 4000/VLC crowd. I could even have interesting and unusual pieces of hardware, such as a couple of rtVAX400s if such things exist, but they don't, so I clearly must not have any. Definitely not 3 of them. Not that it would matter; if they did exist, there would probably be a nasty bug in the ASIC anyway. Or maybe not. > tsch??, > Jochen Aufwiederschreiben, Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

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Cromemco Z80 Assembler manual (was: Cromemco 64KZ Info Needed)

by mhscc＠canada.com

As a matter of fact, I do, but it's 206 pages... write me off-list & we'll see what we can do. mike -------Original Message------- From: "Douglas Wood" <dbwood(a)kc.rr.com> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Cromemco 64KZ Info Needed Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 14:01:38 -0500 Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Any chance you have a copy of Cromemco's Macro Assembler for Z80 user manual? Douglas Wood Software Engineer dbwood(a)kc.rr.com Home of the EPICIS Development System for the PIC and SX http://epicis.piclist.com

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Obsolecence (Was RE: OT: PC Motherboard with a vacuum tube)

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 02:43 PM 9/9/02 -0400, Sridhar wrote: >On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Philip Pemberton wrote: > >> > Posessing a decoder not "authorized" by the MPAA >> > so that you can watch your *own property* on some OS which the MPAA & >> > friends felt was beneath their dignity to port to should /not/ be a >> > crime. >> Finally! Someone who shares my opinion :-) >> I'm not buying a DVDROM for my PC due to region coding - if I want to buy a >> DVD in the 'States to watch here in the UK, I'll go ahead and do it. > >There are ways around region coding. Keep talking. I'm all ears. Joe

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Price of GPIB (was: Proper Observance of ESD Handling Proceedures

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 01:01 AM 9/10/02 -0400, Bennett Paul wrote: > > >Yeah? So? > >Maybe the ones you had were junk. Or maybe he wasn't interested in squeezing every last penny out of them. I know for a fact that Fred doesn't make his living by selling HP-IB cards. > >Or maybe you didn't have the ability to properly manage your assets? > >You did end up going out of business, right? I strongly suspect Fred has made a lot more money in his career than you'll ever see! Especialy with your attitude. > >Opinions are like assholes Fred, everybodys got one, and everybody elses >stinks but your own. That term certainy seems to apply to some people that never post on this list except to complain about other people (and then only post anonymously!) and only lurk on the list looking for bargains that they can turn around and make a fat profit on! Joe > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1759281641 > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1758428714 > > > > >At 11:49 AM 9/9/02 -0700, you wrote: >>On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Mail List wrote: >> > And Louis Schulman thought GPIB interfaces were worth only about $5 >> >>Yeah? So? >>He is certainly entitled to that opinion. Particularly since he can find >>them at that price. When I closed out my office, that's more than I got >>for them. > >

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OT - Warren Zevon

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I think Warren Zevon has come up here a couple times. I figured I'd let any fans that don't already know, know the bad news. I know my day is ruined now. Zane September 12, 2002 Warren Zevon has inoperable cancer Sep. 12, 2002 "Werewolves of London" rocker Warren Zevon, the singer-songwriter whose satire, cynicism and wit went on display in the 1978 album "Excitable Boy," has been diagnosed with inoperable lung cancer, his publicist said Thursday. Zevon, 55, was told of the terminal diagnosis last month by doctors and he is spending time with his grown children, spokeswoman Diana Baron said. The entertainer lives in Los Angeles. "He has been diagnosed with lung cancer which has advanced to an untreatable stage," she said, adding he's writing and recording as many songs as possible and will be in the recording studio next week. Zevon said in a statement, "I'm OK with it, but it'll be a drag if I don't make it till the next James Bond movie comes out." (AP) -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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Univac rescue

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I bet my 4381 weighs more... Scariest experience with it is a tie between it teetering on the liftgate, and when it rolled away toward someone's car in the parking lot... Thankfully I managed to steer it away, barely! Will J _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Turbo Pascal Toolbox: Numerical Methods

by djenner＠earthlink.net

In rummaging through the storage closet, I found most of my old Turbo Pascal (for DOS) floppies, but I didn't find those for the Turbo Pascal Toolbox: Numerical Methods, Version 4.0, IBM Version (1987). I found the book, and it says that there are three floppies, which are probably 5.25" 360KB disks. So, does anyone have copies of these disks they'd be willing to part with or share with a bona fide owner? Thanks, Dave -- David C. Jenner djenner(a)earthlink.net

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Anybody know anything about the TI TMS 32010 DSP chip?

by jbdigriz＠dragonsweb.org

Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote .. > I picked up a machine (TI TDS) that I thought was a developement system > and it has a TMS 32010 pod on it. > > Joe I'm only vaguely familiar with the system with the separate 32010 pod. There was the original TMS32010 EVM that has the DSP, TMS9995 host processor, dual serial ports, audio tape interface, EPROM programming socket, and a 40-pin emulation cable. This would be part number RTC/EVM320A-03. Been looking for one, with software, for some time. What is the model number of yours? I have a bunch of TI DSP literature from the 32010 period and I'll try to look it up. This sounds somewhat later, though. jbdigriz

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MasPar, anyone?

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Scratch "may have" and replace with "was"... Masscomp, or Massachusetts Computer Corporation, made multibus machines running RTU (Real Time UNIX). Not really sure why Perki-Data bought them (thats the common term for Perkin-Elmer Data Systems, since that was really Interdata after being bought by P-E).. Then they spun all the computer stuff off as Concurrent Computer Corp., who at some point accquired Harris's computer division also.. I have an Interdata and multiple P-E/Concurrents... Will J _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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Heathkit ET-3200 digital trainer on EBay

by vaxman＠earthlink.net

BIN $25

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EIA 232 vs. 422, Color Computers (was Re: Serial floppy drive s)

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

>> similar. 422 by the way is specified to go almost 1000 feet, while >> with 232 you are lucky to get over 10 feet. Regards - Mike > That's not true. Serial cable can go for a good many feet before > the signal breaks down (someone should pipe in with actual data ;) 450 feet at 9600 bps through multi strand sheilded cable. This was between two buildings and ran through a drain to get under a road. 19200 bps was tried but was error prone. dropping the speed to 9600 bps worked. Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact VT Merlin Communications Ltd IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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Software & docs for Shiva Fastpath 4 box

by mythtech＠mac.com

>So, can I now go and assume that the DE9 in the Shiva Fastpath has the >same pinout as the older serial connectors in the original mac and the >Mac512K? Unless they used some special Shiva only adaptor (which is HIGHLY doubtful), then yes, you can make that assumption. There were only two styles of Localtalk connectors for connecting to computers, the DE-9 (used by old Macs, PCs, repeaters, and hubs/routers/bridges) and the mini-din 8 (used by most Macs, printers, and some hubs/routers/bridges). In both cases, the pinout was a standard, so if you can find the pinouts for the mac's din 8 serial port and the old mac's DE9 serial port, it should be trivial to make up an adaptor. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Software & docs for Shiva Fastpath 4 box

by carlos_murillo＠epm.net.co

Does anybody have the configuration software for the above device? I want to connect my older mac phonenet network to the rest; I know about the localtalk-ethernet bridge software, but I don't want to hog down a Mac (only possibilities: IIci or SE/30; none of them are particularly fast). Carlos. -------------------------------------------------------------- Carlos E. Murillo-Sanchez carlos_murillo(a)nospammers.ieee.org

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MasPar, anyone?

by Qstieee＠aol.com

You know, I should look through my old stuff more before posting. The company I was thinking of in my earlier post may have been MassComp, not MasPar. Though you say MasPar had a DEC connection, I believe MassComp was actually located in MA. Anyway, we got another great story from someone who really understands computers. Someone should take all of these types of stories from this list and write a pre-quel to the popular Hacker books, about how a lot of computer system really got born.

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TI-74 and TI-95

by dittman＠dittman.net

While cleaning up some old stuff I found my TI-74, TI-95, and PC-324 printer. I completely forgot I had these, even though I used to use them all the time. I think the most interesting accessory is the Pascal module for the TI-74, allowing programs to be written in Pascal instead of BASIC. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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Amstrad cpm boot disk wanted. (fwd)

by vcf＠siconic.com

Can someone in the UK help Mike out? Please reply to him directly. Reply-to: <mikecoen(a)blueyonder.co.uk> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:43:32 +0100 From: Mike Coen <mikecoen(a)blueyonder.co.uk> To: "'archive(a)vintage.org'" <archive(a)vintage.org> Cc: 'Anthony' <dub(a)ntlworld.com> Subject: Amstrad cpm boot disk wanted. Hi. Do you know the best way to get hold of an Amstrad cpm boot disk in the UK ? Thanks. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Paratronics Logic Analyzer

by DeRoe＠aol.com

Joe, I'm not the one who first requested a copy of your Paratronics Logic Analyzer manual, but I do have a need for a copy if it is indeed the Paratronic Logic Analyzer, model PI-616. Let me know what you have, ok? Thanks, Don

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MasPar, anyone?

by Qstieee＠aol.com

I believe it stood for Massachusetts Parallel processing, or perhaps Massively Parallel processing. It was for real-time high performance use. It was merged with Concurrent Computer Corporation of Oceanport, NJ (formerly Perkin-Elmer, originally Interdata). I have some history with the Interdata and successors, and might be able to contact someone with info on your unit.

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OT: Obsolecence (Was RE: OT: PC Motherboard with a vacuum tube)

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Our local Blockbuster Video here in Chicago is rapidly decreasing the number of video cassettes it rents, in favor of DVD's. Soon there won't be any available, except at the public library or specialty rental stores. I guess they are trying to force users to switch to DVD. -----Original Message----- From: R. D. Davis [mailto:rdd@rddavis.org] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:31 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: OT: PC Motherboard with a vacuum tube <snip> Once someone purchases electronic equipment, one should be able to continue using it for as long as one wants, and be able to repair it whenever necessary... of course, that should also apply to most things, such as refridgerators, cars, washing machines, furnaces, radios, televisions, etc. Is not obsolescence is a concept which needs to become obsolete? I propose that we form a Society for the Obsolecence of Obsolescence, and I jest not.

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Obsolecence (Was RE: OT: PC Motherboard with a vacuum tube)

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Yes, but go to a Best Buy or similar store, and you can still buy a VCR. What gets my attention is the speed with which the newer medium/technology is being pushed. It took a lot longer for CD's to replace LP's, and as another recent thread mentioned, you can still buy LP's and turntables. What I object to is being "forced" to switch, to have to buy new hardware when what I have is still functional and functioning. We can keep our old computers running, and functional, with old programs, or even newly written programs for the old platforms. I still use NewWord (copyright 1986) on my 1994-vintage HP 200LX palmtop that I carry with me every day. I guess if I purchesed prerecorded videocassettes like I purchased my old software, I could keep playing them. In software, if I rented (annually licensed) my software, it could be cut off at any time, like WordPerfect was for certain Data Generals,IIRC, or like MS would prefer. Enough rambling, though. -----Original Message----- From: J.C. Wren [mailto:jcwren@jcwren.com] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 8:41 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: RE: Obsolecence (Was RE: OT: PC Motherboard with a vacuum tube) "I guess they are trying to force users to switch to DVD." You make it sound like a conspiracy. It's a simple matter of economics. Every time you play a VHS cassette, you degrade it. DVD does not inherently suffer from this, unless you mishandled a DVD. DVDs take less space, in a vertical spine-out display configuration. DVDs do not need to be rewound. DVDs have a better picture. DVDs have better sound. In fact, the *only* disadvantage that DVD has as a medium is that unlike VHS, it's not readily recordable. If I were a video rental store, I'd be dumping miserable VHS cassettes as fast as I could. Let the antique shops rent them. The DVD market now represents a rather large percentage of the rental market, since a reasonable DVD player is as cheap as a mid-range VHS deck. --John -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Feldman, Robert Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 09:21 To: 'cctalk(a)classiccmp.org' Subject: OT: Obsolecence (Was RE: OT: PC Motherboard with a vacuum tube) Our local Blockbuster Video here in Chicago is rapidly decreasing the number of video cassettes it rents, in favor of DVD's. Soon there won't be any available, except at the public library or specialty rental stores. I guess they are trying to force users to switch to DVD.

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Anyone in the Pacific Northwest (USA) going to the VCF?

by dpeschel＠eskimo.com

Sorry if you're subscribed to both lists. This is for the people who are only subscribed to cctech. I want to bring an exhibit. Taking things on the plane is even more of a nuisance than usual these days, shipping could be expensive, the train may not be very practical, and I can't drive. So a ride would be the logical way to go. I'm in downtown Seattle. Thanks, -- Derek

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IN BAD TASTE: Putting the blame where it belongs?

by jbdigriz＠dragonsweb.org

John Foust <jfoust(a)threedee.com> wrote .. > At 09:39 AM 9/12/2002 -0700, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote: > >But I think that the 1989 Flight Simulator is the FIRST reference to > >planes with the WTC. > > When they built the WTC, the builders and planners were quite aware of > its potential as a terrorist target. > > - John I promised myself I would not contribute to any off-topic threads again on this list, but I have to at least say that your comment is going to have to qualify as one of the great masterpieces of understatement, or maybe caustic irony, of not just this decade or century, but of the millenium. 'nuff sed. jbdigriz

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Anybody know anything about the TI TMS 32010 DSP chip?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I picked up a machine (TI TDS) that I thought was a developement system and it has a TMS 32010 pod on it. Joe

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HAMFEST!

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

There's a hamfest this Saturday in Melbourne Florida at the civic auditorium. This is one of the best one hamfests in the state and definitely worth visiting if you're in the area. While you're there visit Astro II <http://www.astrotoo.com>. They're located a few miles away and I always find GOOD stuff there. That's where I found the RCA Cosmac VIP. E-mail if you need directions or anything. Joe

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Univac rescue

by GOOI＠oce.nl

> 80 Floppies: > http://users.bestweb.net/~toober/images/Univac04.jpg This looks quite like the SSP (System Support Processor ?) of the A-series (again ? , it is over 7 years ago). That was also a small table with a few 8" floppy disk drives and to the right a white table surface. I worked on an 1163 and a 1172 Sperry / UNISYS machine. Was one of the happy few allowed to program in assembler. HAd some "odd" things like no stack and some, I still think IMHO, nice instructions, like EX, execute remote. The EX instruction was sort of the execution of one instruction "somewhere else". Compare it to a JSR to a subroutine of one instruction (besides the RTS of course). BTW the 1163 is a main frame, so not likely found "at home". Pity. - Henk.

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MasPar, anyone?

by IVIE＠cc.usu.edu

Qstieee(a)aol.com said: > I believe it stood for Massachusetts Parallel processing, or perhaps > Massively Parallel processing. It was for real-time high performance use. MasPar was a company out of Milpitas, CA founded (I understand) by ex-DECcies. They built a SIMD massively parallel machine. The unit was controlled by a front-end computer, originally a VAXstation 3520 running Ultrix, later some flavor of DECstation 5000 also running Ultrix. They used the VAXstation 3520 because they got a real good deal on them >from DEC, who was anxious to sell the thing. I designed the interface between the 3520 and the MasPar which, AFAIK, was the only 3rd party interface done for the 3520's proprietary MBUS. They claimed to have licked the problem of compiling for and debugging SIMD machines using standard languages; IIRC they supported FORTRAN and C. Seems to me they were more proud of their debugger than their compilers. I debugged the front-end interface hardware by poking hand-assembled code into the console using CP/M KERMIT's TRANSMIT command on my (then) trusty Kaypro 10. When I arrived with the prototype and my Kaypro, they said "How quaint; he hand-assembles code". After a while it was "Wow! Scope loops you can see on a scope!" (they were using a high-level interpreted thingy called hdb for hardware debugging; their scope loops were too slow to see on a scope) By the time I left, it was "show us how you did that." Sometimes being an old fart pays off. -- Roger Ivie ivie(a)cc.usu.edu

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Software & docs for Shiva Fastpath 4 box

by mythtech＠mac.com

>That would be the trickiest part... I think that I should >try wiring the DE9 directly to a 4wire phone cable; it is easier >to find a phone cable than a female DIN8. This won't work as there are electronics in that box. A TeleNet connector doesn't just re-pin from a din 8 to a phone wire. Besides, it only uses 2 of the four wires (the yellow/black pair aka "line 2"). You will need to build an adaptor to go from Din 8 to DE 9, or just check eBay and see if you can find telenet connectors with the DE9 already on it. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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What is a Texas Instruments TDS?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

What the heck is a Texas Instruments TDS? It^H^H They look like developement systems. Joe

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Today's Dumpster Grab...

by daw＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Well, it'a a touch short of the 10 year rule, but I know there are DEC collectors running around here... I found a Digital VRT17-HA monitor just now. It has 5 BNC connectors, R, G, B, HD, and VD sync. It has a switch, for choosing either 75 ohm or 2k Ohm. It's currently on the 2k Ohm setting. It also has a DIN-8 connector, which appears to be for servicing it. After some quick tests (swapping around the R G and B lines) it appears to work fine, except for the Blue line in the cable itself. Woo-hoo! Now at least I don't have to mess around inside with the high-voltage stuff... Does anyone have a spare cable they're willing to part with? Digital part # 17-04340-01. Next line on it is BC13L-10. -- --- David A. Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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Anyone in the Raleigh NC area?

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 9/11/2002 1:39:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mythtech(a)mac.com writes: << This is on eBay right now, anyone in the Raleigh North Carolina area that wants these things? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2051689106 >> hmmm, I'll check it out. I guess the SE30 would be worth it. -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

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Anyone in the Pacific Northwest (USA) going to the VCF?

by dpeschel＠eskimo.com

I want to bring an exhibit. Taking things on the plane is even more of a nuisance than usual these days, shipping could be expensive, the train may not be very practical, and I can't drive. So a ride would be the logical way to go. I'm in downtown Seattle. Thanks, -- Derek

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