I recall someone asking about SIPPs the other day. Was it on this list ?
I found 3x 30 pin SIMM -> SIPP converters in my junk box if that is
out any help.
"Scarletdown" <SecretaryBird(a)softhome.net> wrote:
> Yeah. I discovered that shortly after my last post. How about
> FreeBSD? Would that work on such a miniscule setup?
You may need more than 8MB of RAM to run FreeBSD versions >= 3. 2.2.x
will run in 8MB, maybe as little as 4MB (I'm thinking the "5MB"
requirement on the CD jewel-box insert had to do with running
sysinstall from a RAMdisk filesystem). ObClassicmp: 486/33, 8MB RAM
200MB HD, running FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE of 23 Apr 1998 and in use as
dial-on-demand PPP router w/NAT. I've had the hardware for >10 years
so it must be on topic.
There's been some recent discussion on the freebsd-stable mailing list
about how to do a small installation, where "small" would appear to be
in the 14-83MB range. Take a look at (long URL):
<http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=E17xMiU-000JaP-0…>
These folks are mostly discussing version 4.x on later iron with more
RAM but comparable disk space (sometimes with flash EEPROM imitating
disk).
There's also the PicoBSD project whose aim is (or at least used to be)
a floppy-sized installation based on FreeBSD.
I think you'll find that this is another experience-building project.
-Frank McConnell
I'm looking for a copy of Delrina WinFax Pro 4.0 in the retail box. I am
more interested in the box than the software, so just having the software
won't do.
This is a bounty item, so anyone who can come up with this will get some
$$$.
Please reply directly to me at <sellam(a)vintage.org>.
Thanks!
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Hi Joe:
At 09:37 PM 10/13/02, you wrote:
> I'm sending a copy of this reply directly to you as well as replying on
the list so I can be sure that you get a copy.
Thanks. I subcribed to cctalk, and will dump cctech once it seems like
posts are coming through -- looks like I'll miss stuff otherwise.
> No, the 85B has more memory (32k vs 16k) than the 85 (aka 85A) but it's
standard memory and not RAMDISK memory. The E-Disk ROM MAY be able to
convert all or part of that to RAMDISK but it would leave you with no user
memory. FWIW The 128k memory cartridge is strickly for RAMDISK memory, it
can't be used for regular memory.
Ahh. Knew there was something about ramdisk in there. I actually have a
64K expansion card. I opened it up to find a second row of chips not
installed, so I suppose I could make it a 128K if ever needed.
>Also I'm pretty certain that 85B does not have the I/O and Mass Storage
ROMs built-in. The HP-85F has those built in and it looks like an 85B and
says 85B on the front but it should have a metal tag on the back that
identifies it as an 85F. The 85F were delivered as part of various HP test
systems and AFIK they were never listed separately in the HP catalogs.
That's probably why few people have heard of them and may be confusing
their capabilities with standard 85Bs. The 85F is a nice catch IMO, you
gain two ROMs and don't use up any of the ports on the back.
I have not heard of an 85F before. I was pulling my 9915A apart, and found
six ROM locations under the module card cage. I also just noticed a post
>from someone about it too. There is an I/O rom and a 9915-specific rom,
and four spare locations.
> I'm sure they would, there are quite a few 9915s out there but AFIK I
have the only keyboard around. I'll see if I can find the schematic. If I
can't I guess I'll have to re-create it. But me every week or two and make
sure that I do it else I'm liable to get busy with other projects and
forget it.
Well, I have been poking around with the keyboard connector, and will post
my findings to the list. There are some locations I can't figure out, so
your assistance may still be required.
> How did your buddy manage to read the HP ROMs? With the Assembler?
I'll have to prod him to elaborate on the list -- I'm not sure if he is
subscribed yet or not.
thanks,
gil
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Hi vp:
>From an old 9915A brochure:
>Control Signals Interface:
>Connector - 15 pin D-subminiature connector, ...(snip)...
So the Control connector provides some handy ways to restart the 9915
remotely. I was thinking it might have been a mini-gpio with some
program-readable i/o lines. Oh well.
>The 9915 has sockets for two sets of ROMs: The EPROM card you mentioned
>(which can accomodate up to 32K using 2516, 2716, or 2732 EPROMs) which
>can store user application programs. The second set is a bank of 6
>sockets for HP-85 ROM MODULES (white letters). These are the same modules
>that plug into the HP Series 80 ROM drawer (HP 82936A). The default
>configuration of the 9915 includes the 00085-15003 I/O ROM and the
>98151A Program Development ROM (which contains instructions for controlling
>the front panel LEDs and switches).
>
>The second bank is located under the expansion card cage. You can
>get to them by unscrewing one screw in the back of the 9915 (under
>the bottom slot) and one on the Operator Interface card.
I just found these rom locations as well. Hidden, but saves a rom drawer
slot.
>With just the I/O ROM even if you get an HP-IB card you will not be able
>to use disks, you also need the 00085-15001 Mass Storage ROM for accessing
>old-style Amigo drives or the (unobtainable) 00085-15013 EMS ROM that
>allows access to the SS-80 drives (e.g. 9122, 9133D/H etc.).
DOES ANYONE HAVE AN EMS ROM? It would be nice to get you to dump the
binary for possibly putting it into an eprom. John Shadbolt (are you on
this list John?) has managed to read an ASM rom, and burn an eprom. It
then ran from the Prog-rom-module card in and 85.
>Given the EPROM card, it may be easier to make a small ROM emulator board
that
>allows data to be uploaded via a serial interface.
I thought about a little flash pic or something that could emulate the rom
signals, but that looked non-trivial. But a configurable 2732 emulator,
hmm, that's probably even been done.
Problem is, for an 85, it's hard to find the prog-rom card to run an eprom
anyway. I've been looking at a prog-rom module here, for possible pcb
duplication, but it is stuffed with ttl and a few house-numbered parts. At
least it does not have a programmed micro or custom "translator" chip like
the serial card. DOES ANYONE HAVE A SCHEMATIC OR OTHER DOCS FOR THE
PROGRAMMABLE-ROM-MODULE?
>The keyboard is simply an 8 by 10 matrix buffered and debounced, and
>provides 76 cross points. The shift, control and caps lock keys are provided
>as dedicated lines.
Well, I started peeking at the operator interface card in the 9915. First
off, it looks the the video connector may just go to the edge connector, so
the video may be available (inside) even without the card.
The chips connecting to the keyboard and control connectors were house
numbers, so I just poked the keyboard connector with a scope, to guess at
the matrix i/o lines. Then, after a bit of playing with a couple of jumper
wires (and the incorrect but usable tv monitor), I have determined most of
the keyboard matrix:
2 3 4 5 6 7/8 9 10 11 12 13
14 down 8 I K M , L O 9 left
15 up 7 U J N . ; P 0 right
16 K4? 6 Y H B / ' ( - RPL
17 K3? 5 T G V LIST? CR? ) = -CHAR
18 K2? 4 R F C RUN PAUSE CONT \ ROLL
19 K1? 3 E D X + -LINE BS LOAD
20 K-LBL 2 W S Z - * ) ( STORE
21 1 Q A SP / ^
22 SHIFT
23 CTRL
24 CAPS-LK
Where the +-*/()^ keys in the bottom right are the numeric pad versions.
The numeric pad number keys were not found. Pins 7/8 (connected together
inside) are used with lines 22/23/24, but I'm sure don't connect to the
rest of the matrix at all. There are still a few unknown keys in the main
matrix though. Pin 25 use is unknown (2.5V). Pin 1 is chassis ground.
It's too bad this wasn't a parallel interface or something, since an
adapter to a serial keyboard would have been easy. I suppose an adapter
could use an array of analog-switches to drive the keyboard port, but it
might be easier to find an old keyboard with isolated switch contacts, and
wire it appropriately.
gil
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Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> I don't know what the difference is between an A and a B model. [...]
There are two models corresponding to the 85 and the 85B.
I am supposed to have an 9915B (that's what it says on the box), but the
main PCB says 9915-66512 Rev A. Go figure. If I could power it up I'd
know whether its an A or a B by the amount of RAM, but I am still debugging
the PSU.
> >As for the control connector, I have no idea what that might be used for.
>
> I don't recall if it's input and output or only input but the 9915 can
> detect switch closures and take pre-programmed action.
>It all depends on wether you want the data to be still "mostly "there if
>something goes wrong with the file.
>AFAIK PDF and TIFF will be totally unusable with any one byte missing.
>whereas HTML XML and other text based format will still have useable and
>recognizable data.
The other way of looking at this is that your text/html files could
be utter garbage and you would not know any better. Or more likely, one
or two characters could get corrupted and produce something that is
still readable but incorrect ...
The real advantage of text (I think) is that we are still likely to be
able to do something with it 100 years from now. The medium is most
likely to be the problem (7-track tapes anyone..?)
MD5SUM and CDcheck will help detect errors years down the line (I'm
assuming that you write stuff to CD and immediately verify against the
original sources ... and obviously you keep duplicates of all the really
important CDs ...)
If getting the stuff back matters, you can try looking at the various
tools that can produce "parity files" for you. I think they are geared
towards having N files of a set size and adding P parity files to
regenerate lost data, but it's a start. Much better to keep a master
copy of your CDs somewhere IMHO.
Antonio
Sorry to bother folks, please contact me off list.
I tried the last email address I had, which is ip500(a)home.com, but since
@home dumped so many customers, I'm not surprised that address no longer
works.
-Toth
On Oct 13, 14:12, Megan wrote:
>
> >Jerome Fine replies:
> >
> >While I have a number of versions of the source for SST (Super
> >Star Trek) which was first written around the same time, I don't
> >think I have the FORTRAN IV source for the SST.SAV and
> >SST.DOC files (well obviously I do have the source for the
> >DOC file since that is the source) that were also released
> >around 1979 as well. Those two files are at dbit under games
> >for RT-11 unless you want me to e-mail them.
> >
> >Might you know where the FORTRAN IV source for that
> >version might be found. Also, I suspect that the 1979 version
> >of SST must have been compiled using V3.0x of RT-11.
>
> Your message was in response to my message about Spacewar on
> a GT40... I wasn't talking about Star Trek or Super Star Trek.
> They are entirely different games...
>
> I've not seen SST for quite a while... I might have a copy
> somewhere in my disk archives, but they are not currently
> accessible (being in storage)... I'm pretty sure there is
> a copy *somewhere* on the net...
Jerome, have you looked at the FORTRAN IV version of Star Trek on my page
at http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/startrek/ ? It's Kay Fisher's
(from DEC) translation of Mike Mayfield's program. It's not the same as
the version at dbit, though. If that one is a 10x10 grid instead of the
classic 8x8, it's probably the UT Super Star Trek released through DECUS.
You can probably find it in the DECUS catalogue.
--
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Network Manager
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Hoping as many peoples as there are ideas may respond and all help is
appreciated. Off list if possible @ vze4cykj(a)verizon.net
If I downloaded files on my PC for old systems (e.g. Apple ][, Amiga,
Amstrad, Commodore, PCjr, Sinclair, TRS-80, Texas Instruments TI)
(1)Please describe some ways to move files to any of above systems assuming
they had hard drives or floppy with correct format. Please note the above
are only examples, I mean to include all classic systems excluding most PC
XT systems.
(2) Please describe any other alternative way different from downloading to
PC first
(3)Describe software and hardware that will be needed and know-how's.
Please be detailed and kind as possible, s I am A novice at this.
Regards
Stewart
A Mattel Aquarius. It's not something that I would have normally picked up,
but it seemed to be reasonalbly complete, CPU, mini expander, printer, tape
deck, RAM cart, and a half-dozen carts. Most in original boxes, if not
packing. After reading all the "coming soon"'s and "under development"'s,
all I'm really missing is a few carts and the 16K RAM cart (the one I've got
is 4K). Alas, the thrift store I found it at has succumbed to the
parts-are-worth-more-than-the-whole, and each piece was priced seperately.
I haven't added up the total yet. :/
Bob
> I'd love to have one, never seen a live one - but
> it was one of the experimental 68k based terms
> brought to you by the makers of Unix(tm) ;)
While the BLIT was experimental (and contrary to other posters was
68000-based), it was commercialized as the AT&T 5620. It was the 5620 that
was based on a WE processor. We had tons of them at Georgia Tech. The
successor terminals (the 630 & 730) switched back to the 68000.
Check the FAQ: http://www.bell-labs.com/user/dwd/5620faq.html
Ken
okok, tis bedtime again, or so it seems... sorry, all..
--fred
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred N. van Kempen
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:58 AM
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: RE: DEC QBus FDDI adapter DEFQA / M7534 docs
>
>
> Dave! You are alive!
>
> -fred
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dave McGuire [mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 2:19 AM
> > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org; port-vax(a)netbsd.org
> > Subject: Re: DEC QBus FDDI adapter DEFQA / M7534 docs
> >
> >
> > On Friday, October 11, 2002, at 08:09 PM, Matt Thomas wrote:
> > >> I wonder why the DEFZA isn't supported yet?
> > >
> > > Because no one has had enough interest to do it yet.
> > >
> > > The DEFZA requires a new driver. The DEFQA can reuse
> > > the existing PDQ framework for DEF[TPE]A.
> >
> > I have a few DEFZAs here that I'd be happy to donate for driver
> > hackitude.
> >
> > -Dave
> >
> > --
> > Dave McGuire "PC users only know two 'solutions'...
> > St. Petersburg, FL reboot and upgrade." -Jonathan Patschke
> >
> >
>
Dave! You are alive!
-fred
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave McGuire [mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 2:19 AM
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org; port-vax(a)netbsd.org
> Subject: Re: DEC QBus FDDI adapter DEFQA / M7534 docs
>
>
> On Friday, October 11, 2002, at 08:09 PM, Matt Thomas wrote:
> >> I wonder why the DEFZA isn't supported yet?
> >
> > Because no one has had enough interest to do it yet.
> >
> > The DEFZA requires a new driver. The DEFQA can reuse
> > the existing PDQ framework for DEF[TPE]A.
>
> I have a few DEFZAs here that I'd be happy to donate for driver
> hackitude.
>
> -Dave
>
> --
> Dave McGuire "PC users only know two 'solutions'...
> St. Petersburg, FL reboot and upgrade." -Jonathan Patschke
>
>
I've just posted some more DEC'ish stuff on E-pay in the 'Other hardware; vintage; other' category (#1247). Included among these is a couple of DHV11 serial mux's, a dual-height extender, four M9047 grant cards, and some TK50 tape controllers. All cheap opening bids, no reserve on anything.
Also, as a reminder; My existing auctions for such things as engineering drawings for the PDP11-05S/11-10S, the TU60, and the MF11-U, all end this evening between 18:31 and 18:56 PDT.
If interested, pop over to Ebay and use the 'Search by seller' feature to scan for seller ID 'bftbell' (sans quotes, of course).
Thanks for putting up with my occasional ads.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy,
Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com
ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
"I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior
to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)
>what is THE favorite terminal you folks here use ?
>Now I have all this nice VTxxx I ever wanted, but they always
>miss the graphics capabilities, I had on my terminals in the office.
>(not talking about GUIs, just few nice lines on the screen)
I have a very clean H19 terminal, with a graphics board by Northwest
Technical Products (I think -- it's at home, and I'm supposed to be working
:-)). I even have the manuals for the H19 and the graphics board. The
board allows for some nice graphics capabilities, and 132 column text
(SWEEEEEEEET in WordStar, though hard on the eyes). I use it as a terminal
for my Compupro S-100 system ... Still works just fine, and it's clean and
neat. A nice terminal....
Rich B.,
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At 09:06 PM 10/11/2002, vance(a)neurotica.com wrote:
>So DEFZA is different hardware from the other three? The NetBSD/pmax FAQ
>seems to indicate otherwise. Maybe it should be changed.
>
>Peace... Sridhar
Yes it is.
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> The VT420 came in three types B&W, Green, and Amber, personally my favorite
> is the Amber, but I think I've got at least one of each type. I've got two
> I use all the time, one is the console on my two main servers, the other is
> plugged into two ports of a DECserver. If I had the desktop space, I'd
> probably have at least a couple more plugged into the decserver.
I really like the VT420, and my VT525 is nice, too, but for
my emergency console I've got an LT320 plugged in to my
DECserver 90M. The LT320 is nice and small, and I've got the
table-mounted extension arm so it is out of the way.
The LT320 is a third-party plasma terminal. There are MMJ and
DB25 serial connectors, and LK201/401-compatible and AT-compatible
keyboard connectors. I use an LK401 with mine.
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At 04:19 PM 10/11/2002, vance(a)neurotica.com wrote:
>I wonder why the DEFZA isn't supported yet?
Because no one has had enough interest to do it yet.
The DEFZA requires a new driver. The DEFQA can reuse
the existing PDQ framework for DEF[TPE]A.
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Hi.
Are there any programming docs for the DEC QBus FDDI adapter DEFQA /
M7534 available?
I have one of this beasts and a NetBSD driver would be quite nice. This
may be not to hard to accomplish, as there is already support for the
other PDQ cards (DEF[TEP]A).
--
tsch??,
Jochen
Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/
Just dug a Tandy 600 out of the dungeon up here at the
science center, found an appropriate power supply and
tried it out. Nada. Zip. Anybody out there have
experience with this machine? All I know is that it
has internal ni-cads (which are to be clipped out), an
SSDD 3 1/2" FD, and looks like a Model 100/102 on
steroids. I think the chipset is also unique (80C88
?). Any thoughts would be appreciated...
Robert Little
Astronomer
Talcott Mountain Science Center
Avon, CT
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Are you still looking to get rid of this?
How much are you asking for it?
* IBM ThinkPad 750T (pen-based computer with doc). Comes with power
brick, dock and 185mb PCMCIA hard drive. PenWindows 95
installed.
// www.fernsoft.com
// The place for custom software and graphics,
// doing the hard stuff so that you do not have to.
Well, I happen to have a 5.25" Hull height Seagate 10gig SCSI drive
available. It powers, never fully tested it though. Hildebrand was going to
take it but it fell through. I also have a 1gig IBM and I think one or two
2gig drives (Maxtor? and Seagates). Anyone need one or specs? Seagate seems
to like me lately. Going for shipping only.
john_boffemmyer_iv(a)boff-net.dhs.org
BTW: nice to see that Sridhar is still with us. =)
-John
At 12:18 AM 10/9/02, you wrote:
>On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Bruce Lane wrote:
>
> > Actually, that's a 2.2 gig drive. The 12400N is an early Hawk series,
> > very popular with the Sun 'lunchbox' systems.
>
>As a matter of fact, I'd like to find one of these for my Sparc LX. It
>came without a drive (removed because the place that owned it was
>paranoid).
>
>-Toth
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The last time I saw a teletype gainfully employed it was maintained by Western Union service people, even though it was attached to a real-time computer system, not the WU network. So WU may still maintain some service capability.
Hi Stefan:
The greenkeys teletype email list averages a few emails a day (not
overwhelming). To sign up, you need to go to:
http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeys
You can poke through the archives at:
http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/
You can peek at my incomplete and random tty stuff at:
http://www.vauxelectronics.com/gil/tty/
There's also some interface stuff at:
http://www.vauxelectronics.com/gil/tty232/
Bill Buzbee wrote a program that lets a tty send/receive email, ftp, and
other cool things:
http://www.buzbee.net/heavymetal/http://www.buzbee.net/heavymetal/Intro.htm
And yet more tty stuff at http://www.rtty.com and http://www.nadcomm.org
later,
gil
At 08:42 PM 10/9/02 +0200, you wrote:
>Yup, I saw them on eBay, but he would only sell me the complete things :(
>And since I live in the Netherlands shipping them complete was VERY
>expensive. I would have payed for the whole thing but just would have let
>him send the smaller parts to me.
>
>But yes, if you could add me, send me more info, please do!
>
>Stefan.
>
>At 11:12 9-10-2002 -0700, you wrote:
>>Hi Stefan:
>>
>>You may be interested in the greenkeys teletype email list -- lots of good
>>folks with questions, answers, etc. (I am admin of it). Let me know if you
>>want more info. You could join and ask, or I could forward your message if
>>you'd rather. There is likely someone on greenkeys who can help you.
>>
>>I'm not personally familiar with the 35 (though it's just an ascii version
>>of the baudot 28). The 35 is a heavy-duty machine that you should be able
>>to return to service (as opposed to the 33, which is a crappy design that
>>just wears out). I'd love to see some pics of your 35.
>>
>>There was a guy in NJ last month with two 35 machines on ebay. He could
>>not get $5 for them, and may still have them.
>>
>>I have collected a few teletype machines that I am restoring (not selling):
>> an M15-ksr, an M31-ksr, an M33-asr, an M28-ksr table-top, an M28-ro, an
>>M28-rotr, an M28-td, an M14-td, and an M14-ktr.
>>
>>
>>gil smith
>>
>>
>>At 07:19 PM 10/9/02 +0200, you wrote:
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >I have here a half working Teletype ASR35. I am missing some parts, namely
>> >the plastic hood, manuals and some lightbulbs. Also the ASR35 isn't
>> >working properly, I am missing half of the keyboard sorta speak, you can
>> >type uptil the letter H or so and then if you continue it starts with
the A
>> >again.
>> >
>> >So any help with that is also welcome.
>> >
>> >Thanks!!
>> >
>> >Stefan.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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>
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Hi,
Just PackRatted a NCR 3400 system from a house
on the next blok.............
It'll be legaly on topic in 2.5 month from now
Seems it could run OS2 2.0 and UNIX SRV4
It's got a Exabyte tapestreamer (propably a 8200-type)
and a few SCSI HD's
It's got RAM-modules with 7 chips each, which seems a
rather odd number to me. In 3 Banks of 8 Modules.
They look a bit like 30-pin simms ..........
Does anyone know if it's value is more than
a rather heavy boat-anchor
Sipke de Wal
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>On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, James Rice wrote:
>
>> By the strict 10 year rule, Tandy 1000's are on-topic. I bought the
>> My 2000 is even older.
>
>Both the 2000 and 1000 had interesting deviations from the PC "standard".
>The 2000 was a "720K" 5.25" disk format.
>
>IIRC,
>The 1000 did not use DMA for disk I/O, somewhat like the PCJr.
>
>--
>Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com
In stock form the 1000 did not use DMA, but any of the Tandy, and many of
the third party memory expansion cards added DMA to the system.
Even a dual 360k drive 384k RAM T1000 was a pretty decent machine IMHO.
At least it came standard with a printer port.
--
To Sleep, Perchance to Dream. For in that sleep of death what dreams may
come when we shuffle off this mortal coil must give us pause
So, does anyone know what ever happend to Richard Erlacher?
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Why do now what you can put off until the last minute...
A gentleman in Canada has some hardware that he's willing to give
me (old computers in questionable state). Thing is, neither one of
us is sure if there's any paperwork required to bring these boxes
over the border. He's even willing to deliver, but not without any
necessary paperwork.
Can anybody fill me in on what would be required? Would working
versus non-working make a difference? It's close to 15 years old
if that matters...
Thanks,
--Steve.
smj(a)spamfree.crash.com
Does anyone know where I could find a distribution of BSD 2.9 that I could
install on my PDP-11/23. Also, will it work with just a 'TU58' (or
possibly two) - I should hopefully have a working emulator by the end of
the week - and 32kW of ram? I don't need it to do much - I'd just like to
have something set up to play with a little.
Thanks!
Pat
--
"This fucking university has shown time and time again that it is
completely fucking incompetent when it comes to employing technology"
-- Anonymous
http://dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2040637020924.gif
At 04:57 PM 10/13/02, you wrote:
>The dimm must be 2k refresh. I dont wanna spend a lot on this.
It is.
>Its for a StarMAX 4000/160. I bought the box ram-less for $10CAN and now I
>learn it might not roll OS8 but just 7.5....it might just be thrashed...
It will run any OS from 7.5.3 through 9.1. See
http://www.lowendmac.com/moto/4000.shtml
>this would be my fastest mac in my "home-network" , replacing an old and
>slow 6100/60...
I know the feeling. Apart from the compact macs in my collection, I've got
two powermacs on my lan. A dual 233MHz 604e running 9.1 and a 7300/166
running Yellow Dog Linux.
>Think of what you might want (small item) in a trade for this...
I don't know. An accelerator or Z80 card for an Apple II? Stuff for a TRS80
model 1 or 100? A NIC for a C64 (joking!)? Most of my stuff is 1980s or
there abouts, space is at a premium in London so I don't have room for any
of the bigger, older kit. Mail me off list with an offer of whatever you
feel is appropriate.
Best Regards
Rob
John Lawson wrote:
> On 13 Oct 2002, Frank McConnell wrote:
> > What's so amusing? The cover photograph is of a Fortune 32:16, and
> > placed to the left of the title and blurb "An Insider's Advice on How
> > You Can Earn Thousands of Extra Dollars".
What I found amusing was the placement of a computer made by a company
named "Fortune" next to those words. Not because of any particular
failings of the company or its hardware.
> Actually a similar thing went on with Molecular - which I thought were
> quite advanced machines for the time. We sold several of them, got
Molecular apparently did build some interesting machines,
multiprocessor Z80 systems which were connected to an in-the-box
CSMA/CD bus for communication with the computer that had disks
attached. Haven't seen one but have heard about it from some folks I
work with who used to work for Molecular or with their systems.
> It was such a snazzy name: Fortune 32:16. A business name - substantial,
> executive - not like having Fruit on your desk... or a business computer
> touted by... Charlie Chaplin???? Puh-leeeze!
Also a good way for one executive to tell his peers and underlings how
much he could blow on a desk ornament.
-Frank McConnell
Hello Erik,
Your e-mail address "erikb(a)cyberspace.org" doesn't exist according to my
server. Please let me know the correct address, so I can reply.
greetings,
Michiel
ps. (almost) old-computer-related bit: I just got a Jamma-converter for CD-i
players complete with snackbar-type quiz game. The questions are in German, but
it's still great fun to play; especially since you get credits by just pressing
a button instead of throwing money into the machine...
>From: emanuel stiebler <emu(a)ecubics.com>
>what is THE favorite terminal you folks here use ?
Textronix 4025. No color, but nice graphics, macros, screen scrollback,
contained a Z-80 (or 2?) and 64k RAM back when that was actually an OK
computer system. Intuitive graphics language. Very nice physically. Loved
it. Can't find one, now...
- Mark
I thought it might be a nice idea to bring some 8 bit British micros to
VCF. Having measured my suitcase & dug out my roll of bubble wrap here's
what I reckon I can bring. The machines won't be boxed but I will bring
power supplies (220V) for those that won't work off a generic PSU (Dragon,
QL). The BBC has a built in PSU, the electrons need 19V and the spectra 9V.
I'm open to offers, either money or kit, my aim is more to defray my
airfair than to make a profit.
Of course, if anyone's looking for anything in particular that's more
common in the UK than the USA do let me know.
Best regards
Rob
3 off Acorn Electrons - working
6 off Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K rubber keys - 5 working, one with minor
keyboard fault (B and N keys)
2 off Sinclair ZX Spectrum + 48K - one fully working, one with some keys
not registering
2 off Dragon 32 - working
2 (or possibly 3) off Sinclair QL - all with some keys not registering.
1 off Acorn BBC Micro model B with DFS (floppy disk interface chip - less
common) - working. I may be able to bring a drive as well.
1 off Cambridge Z88
Possibly 1 off Oric 1
Hi
Sorry, I know this is quite off topic but I know a lotta people here
accumulate tons of stuff with time (like me) and there is a good chance some
will have this...
Looking for these for an older Apple system...32megs or 64megs 3.3v edo 2k
refresh 168pins...
Will trade for vintage/semi-recent/recent stuff - I have tons : networking,
DEC, Sun, SGI, Apple, 8-16 bit hobby micros etc... - Ask
Thanks
Claude
http://computer_collector.tripod.com
Moonlighting With Your Personal Computer
Waxman, Robert J.
World Almanac Publications, 1984
ISBN 0-345-31652-5
What's so amusing? The cover photograph is of a Fortune 32:16, and
placed to the left of the title and blurb "An Insider's Advice on How
You Can Earn Thousands of Extra Dollars".
Oh well, I thought it was funny.
-Frank McConnell
Well, after the recent discussion of scopes for vintage computers, I've put
together a web page with a couple of pictures of two of my scopes. One is a
Kenwood SM-220 station monitor that I use with the Ham Radio stuff. The
other is a Tektronix RM-503 dual channel scope that I use for
troubleshooting the PDP-8/E and perepherals. In the photo, it is sitting on
top of a currently non-operational Sykes 7200 Dual 8" Disk drive.
Here is the URL:
http://cmcnabb.cc.vt.edu/scopes.html
>DEC GT40. That's a PDP11/05 (with real core memory) and a VT11 vector
>display board set in a desktop case with a monitor on top and a separate
>keyboard). 3 user input devices -- the keyboard, a light pen and the
>lights-n-switches panel.
I wish I had one... I'm trying to get the hardware I need to at
least put a VT11 on an 11/05 or 11/34a so I can get spacewar
running... As I mentioned in a prior post, I found the DR11C
which has the original spacewar control boxes we used at WPI
back in the later 70s. I also found the source for the spacewar
we played -- written by a friend of mine who was also a student
at WPI...
Megan
Hi all,
Wheee.. thas been a loong weekend so far, trying to get all the
piles of DEC stuff back into cabinets and in complete, working
order... Then again, one can whine about that here, as we all
do it, sometimes with grumbling wives and annoying kids in the
dim background, but hey.. :)
Anyway. Does anyone have (part of) the following items I could
use to complete the 11/83 (BA123) box:
- BA123 front plate saying "PDP-11/83" - mine says "MicroVAX II"
- BA123 "front panel" switch set - I have one in, but kinda need
two more, if they're around
- *external* cable set for the tape unit - see below.
I have an Emulex QT13 Pertec controller doing TSV05 emulation-
runs well. However, for obvious reasons, the Cipher F880 tape
drive is external, in a neat "tabletop" kind of box, even, with
the two signal cables coming out and going into the back of the
BA123, through one of the (now empty) faceplates. I'd like to
replace that with a QT13 cab kit for BA123, and a cable I can
plug into the Cipher and then into the cab kit thing, like I
have for the (external) TK50 drive connected to my MicroPDP.
I _know_ they exist, as I have seen them... just don't know where
to look for these gadgets.
Also, if anyone in Holland still has a couple of larger ESDI
drives (600+ MB, similar to RA82) laying around.. pse contact me
off-list.. I need one to emulate a RA82.
Thanks, now back to my cabling issues here... :)
--fred
On Oct 12, 21:00, jkunz(a)unixag-kl.fh-kl.de wrote:
> On 11 Oct, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> > Uses 30 pin parity memory. May not like 3 chip PC SIMMs.
> May depend on the SIMMs / RAM chips and the refresh cycles they need.
> My SS1+ was happy with 3 chip SIMMs.
So was mine. It does depend on the refresh, though. That's why some older
PCs also have trouble with some 3-chip 30-pin SIMMs. One of my friends had
that problem.
> > Prefers 9 chip SIMMs. Can take 1MB, probably takes 4MB (mine did).
> All SPARCstations should be able to take 4 MB SIMMs as the SS1 can take
> them. (According to the sun.hardware.FAQ file.)
Yes, it does. I had an SS1 and still have an SS1+ that both have 4MB
SIMMs, and I've seen an SS2 with 4MB SIMMs.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Okay, it is a PDP-8/L, but I don't remember an -8/L with the kind
of paddle switches this one has... I seem to remember them being
the rocker kind like on a pdp-8/I
Megan
> Solaris, and the max memory is 64MB except for the SPARC 2 which can
> take 128MB with a rare and expensive add-in board.
Isn't that 96MB with a rare and expensive add-in board, and 128MB with an
EVEN rarer and expensive daughter board for the rare and expensive add-in
board.
Zane
(Sorry, I couldn't resist, but from what I've seen it's true (each of my
Sparc 2's has 96MB)).