- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Hi all, It seems that adverts are tolerated on this list, so here goes... :-) The time has unfortunately come to get rid of my Diamond D5 Wordprocessor unit; I've had it for 6 years or so now and not really paid it any attention due to lack of time. Whilst I'd like to keep it, lack of space is forcing sale as I currently need the room for more pressing (car, not computer) projects. The system's complete (dating from around the mid 1970's) including: Base unit itself (complete with twin 8" floppies + keys), Display unit, Keyboard, Printer (Diablo daisywheel, badged as Diamond), User manual, Lots of discs (including system disc master copies and backups) - all of these are in disc boxes so unless bit-rot has set in should be OK. I dumped a few pictures in a directory at: http://www.moosenet.demon.co.uk/temp/diamond (640x480 or thereabouts, directory listing gives the file sizes) I got the system in a non-working condition (along with a pile of Link machines and fileserver unit, which was what I was really interested in) and I'm afraid what with lack of time it's stayed that way. When power is applied it'll try to read from the drives, chatter for a while and then stop, with nothing appearing on the display. I found a hand-drawn schematic for part of the display unit circuitry within the user manual, which suggests that the previous owner may have been pointing a finger at that. However, I've never even had time to do the rudimentary first checks on the machine (cleaning board contacts etc.) so it's possible a good strip-down and clean might even sort it out. (as an aside I seem to recall that the back of the display tube glows when the unit's turned on, which is at least encouraging) I'd like around 30 pounds for it if anyone's interested - hopefully it'll find a good home where someone can restore it to running condition again! I'm located just north of Cambridge, UK. cheers Jules __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Epson HX-20 repair details - more info

by M.Clemence＠exeter.ac.uk

Thanks to the couple of guys emailing me about this I have measured a few more things after Tony Duell's advice as follows. The three test points on the board are as follows with the machine off labelled Vp 4.8V +5 0V Vc 2.86V The transisitor Q8 has 4.8 V on the emitter but 0.18 Von the collector the +ve side of Capacitor C11 is 2.86 V pin 15 on IC7 is high None of these values change when the machine is switched on. As an aside, for those who maybe wondering why I'm bothering - I work at >from Exeter university medical physics department and I have been asked by one of our research groups to help them with a problem regarding a pair of Epson HX-20's (from about 1983). This group still use this machine to control a piece of equipment which is used as part of a large clinical study in diabetes and there is currently no available replacement. We are in the process of replacing these computers with newer machines (for which we need to replicate and validate that the software performs identically as before which will take some time) but we would like if possible to keep them running in the meantime. If any one would be willing to supply photocopies of the relevant bits of the manual (schematic in particular) I would of course pay towards copying/postage/time. Yours Matthew Clemence

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semi-OT: Replacement OS/2 Install Media

by pat＠purdueriots.com

Now that I have a good machine to try installing OS/2 on (a PS/2 Model 95), it seems that the install disks for my copy of OS/2 Warp 3 have become re-magnitized in a patter to obscure the original data. Does anyone have a copy of OS/2 that they can send me (Teledisk images or dd images or an ISO is just fine with me) or know if I can talk to someone at IBM to get new media to replace the failed old media? Thanks for the help! Pat -- "The Microsoft/IBM FORTRAN was adequate for teaching FORTRAN 77. But the performance was AMAZING! It could actually take longer to run a benchmark like sieve of Erastothanes with compiled FORTRAN than with interpreted BASIC." -- Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) http://dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2040637020924.gif

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A Momentous Decision

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> > >> Just out of curiousity, how many other people here name their classic >> computers (for reasons other than giving them a network address) >> >> -tony > >Personally the only computers I give names to are ones on my network (of >course basically every system I have setup is networked). I've reached the >point though where the name is likely to simply reflect what kind of hardware >the host is. Other times the name might be what it was prior to my getting >it. > > Zane > Hi I have one at work I call "Piece of Sh*t". Does that count as naming? Dwight

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amiga

by garoalexanian＠netscape.net

I found your great web site. Would you please give me some advice? My A4000 with a Cyberscsi I module does not always boot from the floppy or the hard drive (let alone from external hard drives). I'm certain I've got proper end termination and a good cable. When it does not boot from either the hard drive or the floppy it does not even check in with the floppy as it should. I was wondering if you knew the proper voltages on the hard drive power connector. Mine gave 5.0 volt and 11.77 volt. But my A200 give 5.0 and 11.23 (it also boots intermittantly). Also, whether a low density floppy would work in place of the high density it comes with. I have a spare low density in case it is the floppy which is intermittant. THanks for any comments. I bought all these and am having nightmares __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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Tandy XENIX Disks

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Reminds me of a couple of AT&T 6300's that I used in an exhibit at the Field Museum of Natural History here in Chicago. The keyboards were mounded under 1/2 inch particle board, with just the keypads showing (to run the program). We needed to add an extra instructional label beside the keypad, so the exhibit preparators screened the labels and, to protect them, mounted thin plexiglas over them. To mount the plexi, they drilled 4 holes all the way through the particle board -- and the keyboards that were underneath. Amazingly, neither of the keyboards was destroyed. Bob -----Original Message----- From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:21 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Tandy XENIX Disks <snip> There is one other nasty fault I've seen (at least on the M3, and I suspect the M4 is identical). There's a plastic post moulded into the bottom case of the machine under the keyboard. If something heavy is dropped onto the keyboard, it will cause this post to hit the PCB with enough force to break tracks. While you have the keyboard apart, examine this area of the PCB very carefully. > had that problems with M3 and M4 KB's -tony

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Need help with DSSI/SCSI and an ext CD-ROM

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

I wrote: > The SCSI connector, however, is NOT usable for what you're doing. > The BA440 box (which is what your cab sounds like) has provisions > for changing its internal (DSSI) bus into a SCSI bus, for example > to be used with the KFQSA controller. That way, you can use SCSI > devices with the VAX by mounting them in the old DSSI rails. > > The VAX does _NOT_ have a SCSI controller by default; unless you > have something like a KFQSA, Dilog or Emulex SCSI-to-Qbus controller, > you can NOT use the RRD43. Make that an KZQSA, obviously... Does anyone have a KFQSA and/or KZQSA they'd be willing to let go for a fair price? Thanks, Fred

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OT Re: Naming Computers (strategy, and WHY)

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I like what my computer is named (work): VAX11785.. my dad's computer formerly was VAX11780, but that was 2 machines ago.. and now his is faster : ( Will J _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp

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Anyone Care About RT-11

by jhfinepw4z＠compsys.to

In regard to the Freeware CDs for RSX-11 and RT-11 I have now finished the verification tasks that I feel are needed to ensure that I am producing correct images. I have made some copies of the CD images from: ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/cd-images/ http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RT-11/ http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RSX-11/ They will shortly be sent to those individuals who requested them. Since there might be a number of individuals who can't download at a reasonable speed (even with DSL it takes about 3 hours each at about 30 KBytes per second as compared with about 3 KBytes per second on a dial up line), I am prepared to make additional copies (Tim Shoppa no longer seems to have the time to do so) and make them available at my cost (for media, label, envelope and shipping carton plus postage to the US) and make them available at my cost of about $ 5 / $ 8 / $ 10 for 1 / 2 / 3 CDs. If you prefer to have me use Maxell Black brand CDs which I have been told last about twice as long, the cost will be $ 1 more per CD. Note that all the prices are in US dollars for destinations in the US and postage from Canada. If you are in a different country, the postage will be different. Also note that any funds that I receive will be regarded as a gift. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

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TLZ-06AA drive equivalent

by rgopalan＠ntaf.cmmacs.ernet.in

Hi, We have a TLZ-06AA 4mm DAT drive on our DEC 3000-500 Alpha server and there is some problem with it. Can someone tell me if there is an equivalent drive for the same? Thanks. Rajagopalan

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Sgi personal Iris

by sales＠sgdp.co.uk

Bill, Do you still have these PI's, if so what is the spec 4D/20 12 or 20Mhz, or 4D/30, 4D35. Any info would help, if gone thanks anyway Thanks & regards David Frith SGD Systems Ltd T: +44 1235 227322 F: +44 1235 766065 Email: sales(a)sgdp.co.uk Web: www.sgdp.co.uk This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the above named recipient(s) and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify the sender at +44 1235 227322 and delete this e-mail message from your computer. Thank you. intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com)

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CP/M and NEC PC8001A items available

by dcohoe＠qualitymeats.on.ca

Recently I found someone (thank you Joe!) who had a bunch of Z-80 stuff including Televideo TS803's, Xerox 820-II's etc. I brought quite a lot home, but he still has some items that he values highly. He apparently needs to move soon and is short of cash. The things I got from him were in excellent condition. He's located in western New York state. I've tried to help him out and if necessary, could store stuff for someone. If you email me off-list, I can give you his address. regards, Dan Cohoe Here's what he sent me the other day: I have several items left to sell: 4 NEC PC-8001A computers and a few printers with 4 boxes of assorted hardware and software. Note: Only 3 NEC Monitors (Green). However, to make up for the missing monitor I have bundled with these computers 2 AMDEK (Amber Monitors) (Condition unknown) 1 AMDEK II Color Monitor (that needs minor repair) 1 Apple Monitor III (was working when I last used it. Note: One of the mini disk units seems to work when it wants to... Also, I have about seven boxes of Z80 and CP/M related items: 1) a few TRS-80 Mysteries decoded books 2) Tons of CP/M Books (assembler/database/communications) 3) Kilobaud Magazines 4) Digital Research CP/M Plus manuals 5) Much more I know that one of these boxes contains the original LDOS manual with LDOS related magazines.... (still need to find the box...it's hidden here somewhere...) Brian

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IBM APL for PC help: missing VM232___.AIO

by william.white＠us.ing.com

Are you still in need of this file? I presume you are looking at IBM APL version 1.0. I still use it but the trick is always getting it to work with larger hard drives and Windows. Bill White ING Employee Benefits - Actuarial Telephone: 612-342-3145 FAX: 612-342-7029

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PDP-8L and BA08A : how to connect them ?

by sonnet＠sols.ucl.ac.be

Recently, I saved a DEC PDP-8L (S/N 2209) with a BA08A memory expander box (S/N 587) from being trashed. It is is still pretty good shape. However all the flat cables connecting the two boxes have been cut right where they come out of the boxes. There are 8 double flat cables of 11 conductors between the two boxes. The connectors are still plugged in their original location but there is no hope to match the ends which have been cut. I want to reconstruct the connection cables between the main box and the expander. Before starting the soldering work, I need to know how the connections were before (which "Flipchip" connector card in the main box was paired with which connector in the expander box?). So far, I could not find any information or drawing about the BA08A on the Internet. Could someone help me, who owns a complete PDP-8L system (or technical drawing and maintenance guidebooks) ? I am ready to send a list of the number and location of the "Flipchip" cards on the main board in the two boxes as well as the description and location of the cables. Many thanks, Philippe Sonnet

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HP Series 80 site (for HP-83, HP-85, HP-86, HP-87 and the 9915A and B)

by vassilip＠dsl.cis.upenn.edu

I have placed scanned versions of some of the manuals I have here and I plan to scan the rest as my time allows. The manuals are at: <http://www.series80.org/Manuals/index.html> I have also placed images from all the ROMs I have at: <http://www.series80.org/Images/index.html> Thanks **vp

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Dauphin DTR-1

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I went to a small local hamfest yesterday and picked up a DTR-1. It's complete and includes all the accessories including the original boxs, papers, SW disks, manuals, PSU, slide off cover, pouch, external floppy. The only thing wrong with it is the battery is dead (no problem, 6 A size NiMH cells) and the hard drive has zillions of errors. I'm attempting to reformat the hard drive but the previous owner says that the drive is bad and needs to be replaced. Does anyone have a HP 40 Mb 1.3 inch KittyHawk drive that you're willing to part with? Or does anyone know if anyone ever came up with a way to install a different drive such as one of the PCMCIA drives or the IBM Microdrive in it? Joe

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decitek reader

by bellmfg＠erols.com

Hello, I don't believe you are still looking but I have manuals for the 262 series. Regards, Bernie

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Lost digests

by mhscc＠canada.com

I didn't realize that my mailbox had filled up, so I missed a few digests; is it possible to retrieve past digests with Mailman as it was with the previous system? mike

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Destructive labelling (was RE: Tandy XENIX Disks)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 26, 16:14, Tothwolf wrote: > On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, Doc Shipley wrote: > > On Sat, 26 Oct 2002, Sark wrote: > > > > > And they thought people would steal mouse balls WHY? > > > > Because people steal mouse balls. A friend works in a major computer > > chain store, and I used to work for University of Texas, in IT. > It isn't just the larger companies or universities that have a problem > with this either. At one local school where I maintain dozens of older > systems, some years the kids steal the balls out of the mice. The year > before last, some kid even stole 6-8 mice (and switched 4 of them out with > dead junk mice. This year I'm planning to ty-wrap the cables to something > behind the systems so that won't happen again. I sure wish I could find a > lifetime supply of the older 3 button PS/2 Logitech mice. I've found those > things to be nearly indestructible in a school, and the younger kids will > usually find a way to break anything... Talking of breaking, and mouse balls, you might be amused by the story of the blackboard and the mouse ball. See the URL below. Oh, and vuft cricket (mentioned on the same page) is played with the sort of ball you commonly find near a PC and the sort of bat you commonly find in front of the same PC (you know, the one with the clicky top surface). http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~bjmi100/uni%20history/compsci.html -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Fw: VAX 7000/610 available, Cambridge MA USA

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Stone" <lcs(a)MIT.EDU> To: <port-vax(a)netbsd.org> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 6:24 PM Subject: VAX 7000/610 available, Cambridge MA USA > A complete VAX 7000/610 system, working when removed from service, > will be junked next week. It includes three 19" rack cabinets; > one looks like the CPU, another has a TZ857 tape drive, TSZ07 (9-track) > tape drive, and a pair of RA92 disks. The third cabinet as three > BA350SB StorageWorks disk array units full of, I think, 2Gb drives. > > You must come get it. It's on a ground-level loading dock right now, so > a truck with a lift gate would be helpful. > > Please reply to me if you're seriously interested. This is a big > machine that draws a lot of power, so be sure you know what you're > getting into. > > -- Larry > > (happily running 1.6 on a VAXstation 4000/60)

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Fw: Free Microvax IIs in San Diego, CA

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

As seen in c.o.v-- too far for me to drive! Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Young" <bill(a)cox.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.os.vms,comp.unix.ultrix,comp.sys.vms Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 2:27 PM Subject: Free Microvax IIs in San Diego, CA > I have 3 Microvax IIs in the San Diego, California area that need to find > a new home. They are the Q2, Q3, and Q5 models (pedistal/rack mount, > rolling tower like enclosure, and short rack with RA81). Unfortunately I > don't have time to deal with shipping or parting them out. If you are > near the San Diego area and would like to pick them up, please send mail to: > > s h @ . > p o c n > a l o e > m e x t > > Thanks, > Bill Young

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cp/m favorite?

by mtapley＠swri.edu

> gil smith asked: > I am curious what your favorite cp/m system might be. As usual, my favorite is the DEC Rainbow. Z-80 for CP/M, 8088 for CP/M 86-80, both available via anonymous update from ftp.update.uu.se, and you can even run (early) MS-DOS, and move data back and forth between OS's, on the same platform. Color and graphics available, with the right monitors and graphics card; MFM (ST-506 format) hard disk possible, again with the right add-on card. Price is usually right (just take it away), *if* you can find one. The unusual floppy format is an issue, but that's true of many CP/M systems. - Mark

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Destructive labelling (was RE: Tandy XENIX Disks)

by zmerch＠30below.com

Rumor has it that Gene Buckle may have mentioned these words: > > I'm surprised that Intel didn't try to blame the Pentium FDIV bug on > that... > > >This supposedly happened sometime in the late 70's early 80's. As long as the Pentium was on the drawing board... That could've too! (Hell, the Itanic is almost on topic already... ;-) > > It still cracks me up that according to Intel I'm a 48,000-year-old > man... ;-) > >Oh do tell. :) One of Intel's "excuses" before actually acquiescing and replacing the original Pentiums was that "under normal computing use [1], a person would only trigger the bug once every 24,000 years..." I had 2 separate Autocad files that when rendered in 3-D wouldn't render right on a buggy Pentium but would render fine on a non-buggy Pentium or a 486. They weren't anything mongo, either... one was a 3-D rendition of a door canopy, and the other was a simple desk with a couple of shelves. When rendered, the center shelf on the desk jutted out 4 or 5 inches past the desk on the buggy pentium! We couldn't figure out what the Hades was wrong with my drawing file, until I rendered it on my workstation (an old bodged-up 486-33). Granted, it took a very long time to do it [2], but both files rendered fine on that old beast, but rendered wrong on 3 different brand new pentium-based machines. Laterz, Roger "Merch" Merchberger [1] as in, not *trying* to execute special code or computations that would prove the bug exists; like doing that special Calculator routine that would spit out wrong numbers... [2] Set up job, go get lunch (15-20 minutes). See one error, make change, set up job, go do 4-5 services calls... etc... Granted, that was better than rendering on my old 386sx-16 (With Math-Co) - Set up job, go make dinner, eat dinner, watch a couple hours of TV... check job, make one change, set up job, go to bed.... Took me all weekend to do a job that I could have done in 30 minutes on my 700Mhz (dual 350's) Pentium-2 Machine... -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers zmerch(a)30below.com What do you do when Life gives you lemons, and you don't *like* lemonade?????????????

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Destructive labelling (was RE: Tandy XENIX Disks)

by zmerch＠30below.com

Rumor has it that Gene Buckle may have mentioned these words: > > The Stores in a certain college where I once worked insisted on checking > > every delivery to make sure it was complete. I couldn't undertand why one > > or two ICs in several orders were faulty, until I realised they took them > > all out of the tubes to count them :-( > > >Intel or AMD had a similar problem (huge yield problems) because of an >overzealous clerk counting silicon wafers by hand. By *touching* them. I'm surprised that Intel didn't try to blame the Pentium FDIV bug on that... It still cracks me up that according to Intel I'm a 48,000-year-old man... ;-) Laterz, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers zmerch(a)30below.com What do you do when Life gives you lemons, and you don't *like* lemonade?????????????

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Destructive labelling (was RE: Tandy XENIX Disks)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 26, 0:12, Tony Duell wrote: > I'm not going to say where it happened, but I remember an incident where > the Stores engraged the ID number onto (delicate) winchester drive HDAs > with a Dremel-like tool. Needless to say the number of bad blocks was > somewhat rediculous! The Stores in a certain college where I once worked insisted on checking every delivery to make sure it was complete. I couldn't undertand why one or two ICs in several orders were faulty, until I realised they took them all out of the tubes to count them :-( -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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hp300 for free in Portland, OR (fwd)

by spc＠conman.org

Someone from another mailing list I'm on is giving away a stack of HP300 equipment. Please contact the person---I'm just passing on the information. -spc Forwarded message: > From port-hp300-owner-spc=conman.org(a)netbsd.org Fri Oct 25 16:48:44 2002 > Delivered-To: port-hp300(a)netbsd.org > Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 13:48:30 -0700 (PDT) > From: Zetan Drableg <gelbardn(a)skylab.org> > To: port-hp300(a)netbsd.org > Subject: hp300 for free in Portland, OR > Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0210251341140.32398-100000(a)magic.skylab.org> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Sender: port-hp300-owner(a)netbsd.org > Precedence: list > > Hello friends, > > It is time I get rid of my stack of hp300 equipment. > There's a 380, a 400, and a bunch of lower-than-380 > boards & cases available. I know the 380 & 400 work great. > > These items aren't really shippable because of weight, > so I suppose this only applies to Portland/Seattle/SanFran > areas. > > Gotta get rid of them by the end of the month, so lemme know > quick! > > thanx > nate > > > >

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Need SA400 help

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

Can anyone help me with settings on this drive? Specifically, drive select, termination, and pinouts on the power connector (J2) would help. Also, the specimen I have has a power switch on the front which appears to be factory-installed. Is this common for this drive? The photos I found on the 'net don't have a switch . . . TIA, Glen 0/0 If I am not for myself, who will be for me? And if not now, when? -- Pirkei Avot

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Televideo 912 terminal problems

by ian_primus＠yahoo.com

I just got a Televideo 912 from an ebay auction. It seems to work fine, it feeps, and a cursor appears in the upper left. I have tried to connect it to my Linux computer in place of my regular terminal (a DEC VT100),and it didn't work. I noticed that after the terminal had been on for a minute or so, the cursor disapears from the screen, regardless of wether it was connected to the computer or not. Then, if I turn it off and on again, the cursor reappears, and then goes away again. I have tried setting the baud rate, etc. according to the manual I downloaded from vt100.net. Any suggestions? I really want to get this terminal working. Thanks! Ian Primus ian_primus(a)yahoo.com

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[OT?] Supra FaxModem

by Gary.Messick＠itt.com

Hi George, Try: http://www.supra.com/support/diamond/default.asp?menu=support <http://www.supra.com/support/diamond/default.asp?menu=support&submenu=Legac y_Modems> &submenu=Legacy_Modems Gary -----Original Message----- From: Voyager [mailto:voyager@hol.gr] Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 11:24 AM To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Subject: [OT?] Supra FaxModem Hi, It may sound a bit offtopic, but it's near the 10yrs margin :-) I have an external 28.8 Supra FAX modem, the one with the 2 digit green LED display. It's never flashed, and contains one of the very early firmware versions. I recall that Supra had an extensive file list (including manuals in PDFs) for downloading at supra's site, then moved to Diamond, then nothing, they vanished. Could anybody help me locate a mirror of these files? I need the flash files to upgrade it up to 33.6 version (needs several consecutive flashes) and the AT command set that supported (the non standard commands). Cheers George ************************************ If this email is not intended for you, or you are not responsible for the delivery of this message to the addressee, please note that this message may contain ITT Privileged/Proprietary Information. In such a case, you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. You should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Information contained in this message that does not relate to the business of ITT is neither endorsed by nor attributable to ITT. ************************************

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modem help

by oliv555＠arrl.net

I have a couple of (almost classic) external modems missing the wall warts. Anyone on list running either of these that can provide the dc voltage/current requirements? Thanks. Sportster 33.6 faxmodem Motorola ModemSurfer 33.6 -nick

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OT Re: Naming Computers (strategy, and WHY)

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

>Questionable taste! > >There, *now* we've hit bottom. :-) Well the taste, according to various women I've talked to, depends somewhat on what you eat.. And some of them like the taste... Heh *puts away shovel after digging past the bottom* Will J _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp

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6 free RA81 disks near philly (for pickup only)

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

Dave McGuire and I had the good fortune of being able to rescue that lot of PDP-11/70 kit from Williamsport, PA. in there was a pile of stuff that none of us really want or need. one of those things is 6 RA81 disks. they are currently arranged in 3 DEC short racks. come take them, they are under a tarp in my driveway. come before it snows. -brian -- "He's hopped up on caffeine. He has the strength of ten mice." -PVP

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ID this Apple II card?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Can anyone tell me what this card is for? <http://home.cfl.rr.com/rigdon14/apple/what.jpg>. There's a logo on it but it's so stylized that I can't read it. It looks like "WcAIR". The ribbon cable on it is about four foot long and has a DB-15F connector at the far end. The lage IC on it is an AMI 8038GK. I'm not sure what it is but most of the 8038s that I could find a listing on are octal bus transcievers. I couldn't find a listing for the AMI part so it may be something very different. Most of the ICs have 1984 date codes. Joe

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Pet Question

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Tried my Pet 2001 series today and no display? If I turn the bright up all the way I can see white broken lines across the screen. The built in cassette players comes on fine. Anyone have clue where to begin? thanks

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SIMH HP2100 Simulator question

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"SP" <spedraja(a)ono.com> wrote: > In http://www.spies.com/~aek/HP/JeffsPaperTapes/ Al isn't subscribed, so asked me to post that this was a private directory and is now gone. -Frank McConnell

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Destructive labelling (was RE: Tandy XENIX Disks)

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Umm, all I have to say is: Clue-by-four! Kinda reminds me of an engine I saw where the owner had welded a connecting rod back together... Oddly enough, it broke... Stupid people shouldn't breed... Will J _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp

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6 free RA81 disks near philly (for pickup only)

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Damnit, why must you be sooo far away? I could use the drives, and certainly I could use the racks (I have a DECDatasystem sans rack as the owner had made the rack into a toolbench) Will J _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp

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Cool Finds at Auction and Thrifts today

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I am sure I will be *so* flamed for this, but; Terminal Server is a pretty cool thing, our network ran it for years, glitch-free... Now its 2000... I just wish I could find the EISA config floppy to load NT on my AXP 150s, always wanted NT alpha. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp

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HP1000 Card Edge Connectors

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Yeah the 2nd one does rather look like a V.35 cable, often used with CSU/DSUs and similar crud.. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp

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Cool Finds at Auction and Thrifts today

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

I walked into one of the local thrifts today and spotted a cool looking terminal with Data General label on the front but on the back it said Wyse model WinTerm 2500-TP. It was priced at $21.12 but I was able to get it for $12.21 plus tax. I just hooked up a Compaq KB and mouse to it and it seems to work fine. I went into several menus it has on it and it's setup for 256 colors looks real sharp. I also picked up a Commodore model 2002 Digital/Analog RGB monitor have not tested it yet but it was only $1. Other items today were Wyse 60 and a model 160 have not tested either yet but they also were $1 each; Apple III Business Graphics manual and software for 25 cents; Sharp Pocket Computer carrying case and Printer/Cassette interface model CE-122 but no computer was with it but it was free; another Turbografx16 with 1 game cartridge and power adapter. My strange picks for today were a these hand held game consoles; Space Revenger by Tronica (1983), MARIO'S Cement Factory by Nintendo (1983), Donkey Kong JR. by Nintendo (1982), and Backjack 21 by RADIC:.

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Anybody heard of an Interac 2400?

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

I have this box, slightly smaller than a mini-tower, with video adjustment pots on the front, a wad of ports on the back (external disk, laser disc ports (serial), touch screen port, and more), several proprietary boards and a 3.5" ST506/ST412 disk inside. It *may* have come with my Sony LPD-1500. I know the Sony came from a pallet lot of interactive kiosks from the "Pharmacy Network" (the disc had 6+ retail drugstore names, and you told the kiosk where it was and it played commercials, interactive games, etc., tuned to your pharmacy). I have found *no* info on Google about it. ISTR it was manufactured right here in Columbus, OH, but I have never heard of it before running across it. Should be from the 1989-1992 timeframe, give or take 3 years. Whether or not it came from the Sony, it seems to be an interactive laser disc controller. Any clues? Thanks, -ethan __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/

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OT: Loss of the Scorpion, was Re: Naming Computers [was: A Momentous Decision]

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I also recommend going to the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry, and going through the U-boat... My god, what a horrid place to spend any length of time! And I don't want to think about being submerged... I also would recommend going to the HMS Belfast in London, 6" gun WWII light cruiser.. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp

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HP1000 Card Edge Connectors

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

at 03:12 AM 10/25/02 -0500, you wrote: >I was checking my inventory of unusual cables to see if I had one of >these, and although I couldn't find one, I came across a couple of other >unusual cables. I put up photos and information here: > http://www.techmonkeys.org/~tothwolf/cables/ > >If anyone has an idea what they might be, speak up so I can tag and >inventory them properly... > >-Toth the top one looks like a commodore vic20/c64 to serial cable (If my memory is still working right....) it should be 10 double sided pins IIRC on the 'card edge' end... the bottom one looks like a winchester extender, used for some Routers and NT1's

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HP1000 Card Edge Connectors

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

I checked with one of the HP1000 dealers on the net and was quoted $100 for a 12966A serial cable. I guess that would be either a 12966-60004 or a 12966-60006 for standard 25-pin terminal / modem cables. Now I'm glad I recently picked up an unused 12566C off of eBay complete with the 48-pin connector for just over $20 delivered. When that arrives I should be able to use that connector to build a serial cable for the 12966A. Is there a scan of the 12966A manual (12966-90001) on the net somewhere? I've found a large selection of other HP 1000 manuals, but not one for the 12966A. I did google up a 2 year old message from Frank on this list with card edge signal descriptions so I at least have that. -Glen >From: "Glen Slick" <glenslick(a)hotmail.com> >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: HP1000 Card Edge Connectors >Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:33:05 -0700 > >I think the necessary connector is a dual row 48 contact 0.156" spacing >card edge connector. I'll have to see if I can find a source. I think >some place like http://www.edac.net would let you specify such a connector, >but actually buying some in low quantities might be a different story. > >-Glen > > >>From: "Will Jennings" <xds_sigma7(a)hotmail.com> >>Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >>To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >>Subject: Re: HP 2647A / F Terminal & HP1000 >>Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:52:43 -0600 >> >>Closest I ever came to cables was the hacked-off ends as gold scrap : ( >> >>Will J _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp

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Micom 2000

by wh.sudbrink＠verizon.net

Well, maybe I just scored an ebay bargan. I just "bought-it-now" for $30 plus shipping. A quick web search seems to indicate that this is an early (1975?) 8080 based small business computer. There is an old classiccmp thread with a few general messages about this box. Anybody want to talk about it... what software it runs, etc. Did I just throw $50 away? Bill

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ET-3400 Revision Questions

by patrick＠evocative.com

Guys, I just got an ET-3400 that was partially built. On average, the construction seems to be fairly good. I haven't yet plugged the rascal in, I'm still doing a visual checkout and comparison to instructions and schematics, and trying to find the point or points at which the kit has remaining steps. Mechanically it seems to be in great shape: the labels for the case haven't been applied, and the case is completely unscratched. Soldering is generally good, but flux hasn't been removed so it looks untidy. The keys still have the thin plastic film over their caps, and it's obvious that this unit has had little if any use. Perhaps the builder had a problem and wasn't able to diagnose it, I don't know. I have a manual with schematics, but it's apparent from inspection that the manual refers to an older revision (part numbers different, parts changed or absent, etc.). The main board is part number 85-2712 (-2). Unfortunately, I don't have the x-ray views of the board, and the component side is completely covered with a white plastic mask that carries various labels and graphics, so traces on that side are all but invisible. Before I break out the probe, I've got a couple of questions, for those who may know: The 6800 in the schematic is a 6802 on the live unit, and the 6875 in the schematic is absent altogether, and there's no trace (no pun intended) of a location for it. This seems to make sense; the '02 has its clock generator on board, correct? Where is its 128 bytes of RAM mapped? There are also two 2114's on this board, rather than two 2112's and two empty sockets for additional 2112's. There's a jumper soldered between U4 (a 74126) pin 5 and the nearest resistor (part of the 8-LED assembly). Not on the schematic, but it seems like it quite possibly could be a pull up or down (pin 5 is an input to a tri-state buffer, pin 6 is the output to the DBE signal on the MPU, at least, according to the schematic I _have_). Again, I can't tell easily in this area of the board because the component-side traces are covered with the white plastic mask. The ROM is 444-364, so I suspect the source listing in the manual I have (for ROM part number 444-17) won't nearly cut it and routines have probably moved. Does anyone have a listing of this ROM they'd be willing to share? IC1 is listed as a 'LS241 on the schematics I have, but there's a 'LS240 in the socket. I can't visually verify that the change is appropriate, or just a bad substitution by the builder, because the component-side traces are covered by that white mask. It seems plausible that Heath would, for whatever reason, decide to invert the sense of the lines buffering the eight binary display LEDs (not the 7-seg displays on the right, the eight FLV117s on the left), and this would be an appropriate substitution. Of course I can quickly find out with a logic probe or some of Heathkit's infamous "short wires", but I was just wondering if anybody knew for sure? Does anyone have a GIF or JPG (or other format) of the x-ray of the main board (even a newer or older revision), or a copy of the "Illustration Booklet" that they'd be willing to share? For that matter, does anyone have a copy of the manual for this (or near) board revision? The manual I have is from Raymond Sarrio, and it was listed on his site as the Illustration Book, but it turned out to the Manual (I'm going to contact him as well). I'm happy to buy/trade... Thanks! --Patrick

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Fw: Sign of the times :(

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

> In news:3DAC9616.5EB1C69C@pacbell.net, yi ge mei you wei ba wrote: > > > Looks like california plates, but where ? I'd go grab it for you > > if I knew where it was .... no street signs in the photo :-) > > Area Code: 818 > Prefix: 762 > Location: North Hollywood > > Well this is as close as I can peg it. Wish someone would salvage it. In reference to: http://216.102.153.252/sgi.jpg For the graphically or bandwidth challenged, it's an Onyx sitting beside a dumptser. Possibly a troll, but if I was withing a half-days' drive I'd spend the weekend driving sidestreets to be sure... Bob

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FW: CP/M and NEC PC8001A items available

by dancohoe＠oxford.net

This didn't get on the list first time around so here it is again. Recently I found someone (thank you Joe!) who had a bunch of Z-80 stuff including Televideo TS803's, Xerox 820-II's etc. I brought quite a lot home, but he still has some items that he values highly. He apparently needs to move soon and is short of cash. The things I got from him were in excellent condition. He's located in western New York state. I've tried to help him out and if necessary, could store stuff for someone. If you email me off-list, I can give you his address. regards, Dan Cohoe Here's what he sent me the other day: > I have several items left to sell: > > 4 NEC PC-8001A computers and a few printers with 4 boxes of > assorted hardware and software. > > Note: Only 3 NEC Monitors (Green). However, to make > up for the missing monitor I have bundled with these computers > 2 AMDEK (Amber Monitors) (Condition unknown) > 1 AMDEK II Color Monitor (that needs minor repair) > 1 Apple Monitor III (was working when I last used it. > > Note: One of the mini disk units seems to work when it wants to... > > Also, I have about seven boxes of Z80 and CP/M related items: > > 1) a few TRS-80 Mysteries decoded books > > 2) Tons of CP/M Books (assembler/database/communications) > > 3) Kilobaud Magazines > > 4) Digital Research CP/M Plus manuals > > 5) Much more > > I know that one of these boxes contains the original LDOS > manual with LDOS related magazines.... (still need to find the > box...it's hidden here somewhere...) > > Brian >

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Looking for CRT tester/rejuvenator

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Claude.W" <claudew(a)videotron.ca> > >Hi > >Looking for a "recent has possible" CRT tester/rejuvenator to do work on >several older terminals, monitors and other equip with CRTs I have around >here... > >Borrowing the high $ unit from work is not good for me....Carrying large >monitors into work is not practical... > >Will trade or $s. > >Claude >http://computer_collector.tripod.com > > Hi They can be tested in place. Most rejuvenators just run the filaments at about 1.5X to 2X the voltage while the rest of the voltages are at zero. You can do this with a bench power supply. Dwight

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Even stranger classic software

by jpl15＠panix.com

In the late 70s I remember seeing a tiny little ad in the back sections of Byte for a program for Passover. You plopped your Apple ][ down on the table next to the Charoses and roast lamb and wine - and the damn thing stepped you thru the Seder, songs and all. "Daddy - why on this night do we have our computer on the dining room table, instead of the desk? Daddy - why on this night are all our relatives and guests dying from hunger because you can't get a disk to read?" ;} It was a stunning concept - and right then I began to formulate the cynical observation that *some* people have way too much time on their minds... Cheers John

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