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Longevity of CD-R (was RE: Preserving Newspaper.)

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Kodak seems to be mostly out of the gold CD-R business, but Mitsui and >Taiyo Yuden still make gold media. It's hard to find at retail, though >a Google search turns up plenty of mail order sources. Of course it >is much more expensive than silver. Any idea about the quality of Verbatim's "Azo" dye? Obviously they hype it as being far better than other media, but I didn't know if anyone knows any "truth" about it. I have been moving to those because that is what I have been buying for my VCD recorder. I settled on them because they were the only ones I could get to work reliably in my VCD recorder when I first got it. It turned out to be a defective recorder (cooling fan was broken, so the unit overheated within minutes), and now just about any 74 minute CD-Rs work in it... but I have stuck with the Verbatim despite the slightly higher price... simply because I was impressed that they managed to work consistantly even in a broken recorder. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Sellam on TechTV

by cb＠mythtech.net

I have a QuickTime Movie of Sellam's section on TechTV's ScreenSavers the other day. Unfortunatly, it is about 11 MB, which is more than I can host over my DSL if it is going to get any number of hits. How many people want me to put this up, or is there someone with a better connection that wants to host it instead? (I also have a slightly higher quality version that is about 21 MB). The clip runs about 9 minutes and requires Apple's QuickTime (if anyone has easy access to an MPEG converter and wants to convert it, feel free). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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watch out for this guys!!! [Fwd: Access restricted: Verify your account information.]

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com> wrote: > At 01:08 PM 11/9/02 -0800, Frank McConnell wrote: > >What really cheeses me off about this sort of thing is that the > >service providers don't go out of their way to make it easy to > >identify fraudulent use of their names (or do any kind of sane mail > >filtering, for that matter) by looking at the source and destination > >domain names in e-mail headers and URLs. > > Two great opposing forces are at work on the internet, total control and > verified identity, vs, anarchy and annonmenity (sorry spelling is not a > major force). I guess I put this the wrong way round. The company on whose behalf this stuff was e-mailed (HP) has allowed someone to make it hard to identify that the stuff really originated with or in fact has anything to do with them, beyond easily-forgeable bits in the From: header name (the text bit, not the address) and body which I know better than to trust. > Unfortunately the same verified ID that would let me track down a spammer, > also would allow oppressive regimes to control internet content. I'm not asking for a cryptographically verifiable ID, I'm asking that those who would allow other parties to send authorized corporate communications in their behalf via unencrypted e-mail at least put enough effort into making sure that these communications at least give the appearance of coming from the authorizing party. Allowing the mailing-list company to use specific name(s) in hp.com in the From: header address and URLs would do; allowing the mailing-list company to use specific name(s) in hp.com in the Received: headers and SMTP envelope address would be nice too. This is all just DNS tricks. Absent this, how can I (as the receiver) tell the difference between authorized and unauthorized communications? I can't, and if I can't I don't see how I can expect anyone else to do so. That's what makes it possible for some miscreant to forge e-mail claiming to be from HP, or eBay, and get people to reply with their credentials. The recipients can't tell which messages to trust. ObCC: turned up a copy of Abrash's _Zen of Assembly Language_ at the book sale yesterday. It's a good book (and hard to find), but you can probably get most of his message out of his later books that are somewhat easier to find: _Zen of Code Optimization_ and/or _Graphics Programming Black Book_ (which latter I believe is available in some form or other online). -Frank McConnell

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[OT] Headed for the scrap heap...

by patrick＠evocative.com

The following spare parts from 3Com equipment (1992-1994) are headed for the scrap heap unless someone wants them (all or individual): CEC for 3Com NetBuilder II 3C6000 Power Supply for same Two Ethernet cards for same One HSS V.35/RS232 high-speed serial card for same 16-port serial card for 3Com Communications Server CS/3100 10-BaseT option card for same All items are in Berkeley, CA, and of course no charge (unless you need it shipped, then just actual cost). Patrick

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Xerox Parc

by lgwalker＠mts.net

Something that I have always wondered about is why Xerox never sued Jobs ass off for the Mac GUI and also MSWindows which was derrived from Xerox's 'Small-Talk". They were a major corporation and Apple was quick enough to disembowel DRI's GEM altho Sam's Atari ST still continued to use an updated version of the original. MS has also litigated any threat to their bullying dominance and despite the protestations of the C-64 fans GEOS (any coincidence there) is obviously a clone of the GEM desktop. The mouse was also developed at Palo Alto. I have trouble simply accepting that a major corporation like XEROX was simply a stupid wimp. From all evidence I've seen Xerox invented the GUI. Something more important than CP/M, MSDOS, or UNIX. What am I missing here. Lawrence lgwalker(a)mts.net bigwalk_ca(a)yahoo.com

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PDP-8/E Ext. Memory Test Wierdness

by cmcnabb＠4mcnabb.net

My PDP-8/E currently has four fields of core installed - fields 0 through 3. All fields pass both the 4K Memory Address Test and 4K Checkerboard Test with no problems. The Ext. Memory Address Test also runs fine. However, when I run the Ext. Memory Checkerboard Test I get wierdness. Here is the run: PDP-8E EXT MEM DATA & CHKBD SETUP SR & CONT <--- Set SR to 000000000011 4 FIELDS IN THIS SYSTEM FIELDS SEL'D ARE 6 5 3 2 0 <--- First bit of wierdness. This should be 3 2 1 0 PROG WILL RELOCATE PR LOC FAIL ADDR GOOD BAD PATTERN 01660 50000 7777 0000 ALL 0 - 10 01660 50001 7777 0000 ALL 0 - 10 This continues through fields 5 and 6 until I hit the halt key. The Config is as follows: PDP-8/E CPU EAE Ext Memory & Timesharing ASR-33 Teletype and Associated Control 4K Core stacks for Fields 0 and 1, 8K Stack for Fields 2 and 3 What I don't understand is why the Ext. Mem Address Test works correctly, but the Ext Memory Data and Checkerboard can determine the number of fields while messing up on exactly which fields they are. Anyone seen this before? -- Christopher L McNabb Operating Systems Analyst Email: cmcnabb(a)4mcnabb.net Virginia Tech ICBM: 37.1356N 80.4272N GMRS: WPSR255 ARS: N2UX Grid Sq: EM97SD

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11/44 scare

by jpl15＠panix.com

Well, this evening I fired up the PDP11/44 machine that I drug to VCF5 and back... it has moved into the house to live in what would have been the dining room, had I not made my office there. I thought of leaving it in the garage and just having the teminals in here, but it's getting regularly down into the teens and below at night, and Winter is hardly here yet... Anyway, after checking things out visually, I powered it on and the monitor immediately trapped to the console and halted. Ah. Schiess/Merde/Caca! Okay, no problem, something shook loose during all the moving and loading/unloading.. I powered down and re-seated the cards. Power back up, same thing. Starts to boot, traps to ODT, proc halts displaying the address it's stumbling over. I paused to give vent to language that is best represented by ASCII line noise. BUT: I have doc! I have Processor Manuals! I have the Technical Manual! And, using ODT, I found that the system was trying to boot the ESDI drives and failing. I'm so proud of myself - decoded the error codes, followed the registers to what was hurting... the Dilog 626 has died... tried to boot from the RL02 - that works fine. Got the other 626 from the other (dead) /44 chassis - now all is well. SO - I'm looking for another Unibus ESDI controller.... as well as all the other Junque. I'm supposed to have a SCSI card on the way - if it works it will have been a Good Deal. If it's trash - oh, well: keep looking. And there you have it. Cheers John

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Signetics 2650

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

LOL, AFAIK, Ehrlacher still has some 2650s.. He gave me one. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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watch out for this guys!!! [Fwd: Access restricted: Verify your account information.]

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> wrote: > Why not save energy, and use a water immersion that is very slowly brought > to a boil? Hey, why not be green, at least from an energy point of view? I'm imagining a big concave mirror and a hoist. Tie the rope to appendages appropriate to the crime, and hoist the miscreant into the focal point. ... What really cheeses me off about this sort of thing is that the service providers don't go out of their way to make it easy to identify fraudulent use of their names (or do any kind of sane mail filtering, for that matter) by looking at the source and destination domain names in e-mail headers and URLs. For example, four years ago I bought a then-new HP scanner. I registered it, and gave them an e-mail address. Once a month or so, I get this thing that says something like "Happy Halloween from HP" in the Subject, was mailed from some domain name in p0.com, and has a bunch of URLs with domain names in p01.com. How the foo is J. Random Customer supposed to tell the difference between this and an attempt to defraud or commit identity theft? -Grumpy Ol' Frank

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Best Find of the Weekend!

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I still like the old TI Programmers calculator that I found a few years back at the "Tektronix Country Store" (where they surplus stuff). Nice LED model, that can convert between the various number systems (I never was that great with Decimal to/from anything). It has the added benifit of being almost identical to the one my Dad had when I was growing up. Except for the battery, it works fine and came with the box, manual, and a power brick. Does anyone still make "Programmers Calculators"? I've got either a Sharp or a Cassio that I bought new 12+ years ago. I forget which brand it is, but it was the one I really liked. It was basically the battery operated/enhanced version of a solar powered one I'd had in High School (which unfortunatly died). I'd love to find a good solar powered one, as I can never remember to pick up batteries for it, as a result I've not been able to use it in years :^/ Zane > > I vote for this as a candidate for "best find of the > decade". > > --- Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote: > > OK I'm claiming the prize now and it's only > > Friday! > > > > Top this: Not one, not two, but THREE Tektronix > > 31 calculators, all NIB! > > > > Found these at a garage sale. They appear to be > > from the estate of a Tektronix employee that bought > > them in Beaverton and shipped them to Orlando when > > he was transferred here. Two are "normal" 31s, the > > other is a different color and is marked "Coulter > > Model 43 Data Converter". It has options 1, 4, Pa > > and Pb installed. I've posted a couple of pictures > > of it at <http://home.cfl.rr.com/rigdon14/tek-31/>. > > I haven't checked out the other two yet but they > > also seem to be well optioned out and have what I > > think is the interface to connect the TM500 modular > > instruments. > > > > Joe :-) > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos > http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 >

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Ithaca Intersystems DPS-1 available (?)

by geoff＠pkworks.com

Yah, I saw that. If he drops a zero off the price I'm interested... >Just spotted this in last week's Want Advertiser - didn't get around >to reading the computer section... Located in Townsend, MA maybe an >hour out of Boston? Rest is literal from the ad. I called just now to >see if it was still available, but no answer. I have no affiliation >with the seller. > >===== > >ITHACA INTERSYS DPS-1. This is an extremely rare S-100 bus minicomputer >from 1979. Mint cond & has many cards inside, all orig. It also comes >w/ the mathcing Ithaca dual 8" drive encl. 2 terminals & 2 other drives >that can go w/it. 1 of these recently sold on E-Bay for $4000. Priced >for quick sale, $1000; Call Aaron 2:30-9:30PM. (Townsend) 978-597-8018 > >[I believe this is a residential number. GMT-0500. --S.] > > > >

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Ohio Scientific Challenger 1-P

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > I pretty sure that Mike Haas has AT LEAST one. Bob Rief and I located a stash of OLD computer stuff in Gainsville and bought all the S-100 stuff (a truck load!) and turned Mike unto the rest of it including a couple of OS computers and a Motorola Exorcisor machine. Needless to say he got everything that we left! Okay, so what about this thing? Trash? Treasure? Scarce? Common? Is it interesting enough that I should try to add one to my collection of 8-bitters here? Later -- Glen 0/0

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Need datasheet for AT&T T7525 codec 1991-1994

by foo＠siconic.com

Hi. I need a data sheet for an AT&T T7525 codec from the 1991-1994 timeframe. The data sheet must be dated. If not, then I need the entire databook. There is a cash reward for this. If you've got this, please reply to me at <sellam(a)vintage.org>. Thanks! Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Ohio Scientific Challenger 1-P

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

Does anyone have any information on this computer? TIA -- Glen Goodwin If I am not for myself, who will be for me? And if not now, when? -- Pirkei Avot

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(Fwd) Re: _Collectible Microcomputers_ now available for order

by lgwalker＠mts.net

This seemed to not get thru a classic talk screening. Could you give me reasons why this shouldn't have been posted ? ------- Forwarded message follows ------- From: Lawrence Walker <lgwalker(a)mts.net> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: _Collectible Microcomputers_ now available for order from VCF Send reply to: lgwalker(a)mts.net Date sent: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 14:12:23 -0600 No I think you're wrong here Sellam. He's more like genital lice. A parasite. What is more interesting is that he had the audacity to try and discredit the value of Michaels book on a list of classic computer enthusiasts. Michaels contributions to the computer community go back to the days of Micro 80 and his newsletter is a valued resource. As is obvious this creep's main concern is making a buck off recent interest in older computers despite all the appeals to the higher virtues of his contribution to blah, blah, blah. The usual tactic of a charlatan. A while back an interesting poster to the list, a scrap dealer who could have offerred us insight into the workings of that world was harassed off the list. I viewed that as unfortunate but slime like this who selfservingly slag an info- source valueable cause it might undermine their preying on unknowledgeable collectors is beyond redemption. Lawrence > On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Mail List wrote: > > > How is it you feel you have a right to pass judgement on me? > > Because you're a dick. > > > No, I was concerned that the data sources might be incomplete and fail > > to "conveniently" acknowledge the commercial market sector. You know, > > that portion of the economy that is encumbered with real expenses ( like > > marketing expenses, payroll, taxes, etc. ) and that provides jobs ( for > > those that still have one ) and therefore has to charge prices for their > > goods and services which allows them to meet those expenses and remain in > > operation. > > Look, the book is called _Collectible *MICROCOMPUTERS*_. Sure the LSI-11 is a > microcomputer, but that was conveniently left out. There is no pricing > information for PDP stuff, so you can continue to ask whatever the hell you > like for it. > > The prices in the book were based on a mixture of actual scarcity (i.e. > supply), demand, gut feeling, and past sales, in that order. At least > that is how I approached it when Michael consulted with me on the pricing. I > can't speak for Michael, as he had final say as to how to value each machine > since it was his book. I think he did a terrific job. The values are > reasonable. The values are based on what a machine might go for in the real > world, not what it would sell for on eBay if the seller was a dealer and had > overhead such as taxes and marketing and payroll, etc. > > Since when does ANY value guide take this into account? You are now > arguing for the sake of arguing. Just admin you're a dick and move on. > We'll forget about you soon enough. > > > Don't lament when you're out of work, when you have > > previously condemned that sector that provided you your jobs. Don't > > lament when you see the value of your retirement accounts decline in > > value when you condemn those companies that your very same account is > > invested in, decline in value, as you complain about their prices ( no > > competent fund manager invests funds in the average eBay seller ). This > > thing called the economy is something we are all in together. Soil that > > where you eat, and you may find the food no longer edible. > > Ok, George Bush, we'll allow you to attack Iraq just to get you to shut > up. > > <violins> > > > You know, I used to believe that if everybody worked together, everybody > > could see some benefit from that cooperative relationship, whether that be > > parts you have a use for, or cash to buy parts you want, etc. There have > > been times that I could have run something by you that would have helped you > > out, but previous contact seemed to indicate that you were all about > > yourself only. I have since given up. My impression was that you can't stand > > to see anyone else realize any benefit from their contribution. You want it > > all for yourself. So you have closed off those opportunities. > > </violins> > > Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org > > * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com * > ------- End of forwarded message ------- lgwalker(a)mts.net bigwalk_ca(a)yahoo.com

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Enhancing RT-11 and Fixing RT-11 Bugs

by jhfinepw4z＠compsys.to

Although this list is semi-public, I thought it best to keep this inquiry a bit more limited than immediately posting this in alt.sys.pdp11 and vmsnet.pdp-11. If I don't receive any replies from classiccmp, then I will try those two newsgroups, but any feedback from classiccmp would be greatly appreciated so that obvious (but not to me) aspects of this content that are inappropriate can be changed. Note that since V5.03 of RT-11 was released in 1985, I am abiding by the ten year rule. Please note that I realize that there is almost no interest in fixing bugs in RT-11, let alone producing enhancements. If you feel that such activity is best left to Mentec or you don't wish to participate, then read no further. As for why I enjoy fixing bugs in RT-11 and making enhancements, the reason must be the same as for someone who climbs Mount Everest - because it is there! As of November 2002, V5.07 of RT-11 was 4 years old, having been released in November 1998. Even if Mentec does eventually allow hobby use of versions of RT-11 subsequent to V5.03, especially V5.07, I just can't believe that Mentec will ever spend the money to decide to release another version of RT-11 when there are already insufficient sales to even support selling RT-11 and all of the layered products. My suggestion is that the very few individuals who are still interested in fixing bugs and writing code to enhance RT-11 pool their resources. While there are many minor and several major bugs still in RT-11, it no longer seems likely that there will be a further release. If you are interested in bug fixes and extensions to RT-11, along with support for V5.03 which may be used as a hobby version of RT-11 under the Supnik (SIMH) emulator, I would appreciate being part of, even leading if no one else is willing, a small group to share and define future extensions to RT-11 as well as fixing the current bugs. If no one replies, I guess I will lead a one person group. But even someone who is interested, but might only wish to comment on how and which bugs, along with any enhancements should be undertaken, would be extremely helpful. Also if you are only interested in using the enhanced features of a future RT-11 and NOT even in being a beta tester, you can still provide valuable help by stating which features would be of use. For example, at the very least and until the hobby license allows later versions of RT-11 after V5.03 to be used, a Y2K compliant V5.03 of RT-11 would seem to be reasonable. While I would rather spend my time fixing the bugs and making enhancements to V5.07, there may be sufficient interest to make V5.03 Y2K compliant until the hobby license for at least RT-11 (as opposed to RSTS/E and RSX-11) is extended. Another extension that would seem to be in order while there is sufficient expertise around is to allow for dates beyond 2099. For example, current VMS 64 bit implementations probably allow for the year 25,000. Extending the DATE value significantly beyond 2099 to at least 9999 will require at least 5 MORE bits to be used for the DATE value within the resident monitor and in random file directories. I also have looked at the implementation of a PH: (PATH pseudo device HANDLER) that could act like the Symbolic Name List in VMS or the PATH NAME in DOS. And an enhancement I have thought about would be the ability to boot and execute RT-11 within a DSK file, i.e. allow the LD: to be a System Device bootable using DUP. Another might be to allow more RT-11 partitions to be active for MSCP device drivers instead of only 64 RT-11 partitions - and if feasible, 256 RT-11 partitions depending on how RT-11 handles characters in the third character of the device name. Of course, 2 extra bits would need to be found in the queue element. As far as I understand, all future changes to RT-11 (both bug fixes and extensions) are unlikely to be used by any commercial sites. Further, in order to attempt to be compliant with the current and any future hobby license from Mentec, I suggest that all changes to RT-11 be made available ONLY for hobby use unless they have Mentec's approval for use by commercial users. If anyone at Mentec is reading this, I suggest that contact be made to arrange for this aspect of the use of any changes made to RT-11 that are not made by Mentec. Obviously, if there is no contact with Mentec, NONE of the changes will be approved of or supported by Mentec - which is probably the BEST solution since then the users will do all the work and coordination for the changes that are needed as well as being responsible to ensure that the changes are bug free and work correctly. However, a win/win solution might be for Mentec to allow V5.07 of RT-11 to be used by hobby users and for the bug fixes (especially the bug fixes) and enhancements to continue to be sold by Mentec to the commercial users after they are provided without charge to Mentec by the hobby community. I don't know if this arrangement has ever been made between the manufacturer and the hobby community, but I can't see how it would hurt Mentec. In this regard, a completely ISO 9000 compliant version of RT-11 might even be possible. About the only utility still needing 4 digit years is MACRO-11 and that is already done - in a private version I did in 1997. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- To obtain the original e-mail address, please remove the ten characters which immediately follow the 'at'. If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

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watch out for this guys!!! [Fwd: Access restricted: Verify your account information.]

by mikeford＠socal.rr.com

At 01:37 AM 11/9/02 -0500, Patrick Finnegan wrote: > > What about molten iron :-) > >Sounds good, as long as you _slowly_ lower them into it, like the 'T1000' Doesn't work, the molten iron gives off a ton of IR heat. I used to work in a steel mill and people would toss old pallets into molten iron carriers and about 10 feet up they would burst into flame. Falling into boiling water is much worse I am told.

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11/44 - Dilog update

by jpl15＠panix.com

Number one, I misread the model number of the ESDI card that failed: it's a Dilog DU686... sorry, sorry! A moment with Google turns up that not only is Dilog still in business (www.dilog.com) but that they sell and service a large number of Unibus *and* Qbus cards. It turns out that the DU686 is ESDI / MSCP and they'll fix dead ones for only $250... $350 with revs, ECOs, and updates. The main office is in Switzerland, branch in Tustin, CA. No prices for new stuff listed on the sites, but I'll phone them Monday and see... they have SCSI and Pertec formatters, and Unibus adapters to make modern small SCSI drives look like a Spindle Farm, sans the noise, weight, and floor-space. Cheers John

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IBM 6546-00N monitor focus

by Qstieee＠aol.com

This has marketing name G52. It is a 15" PC type monitor. I'm looking for information on how to adjust the focus. Images and text are good, bright color and convergence but not exactly in focus. Suspect an internal adjustment; nothing apparent on built-in on-screen menu.

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VAX manuals found

by Qstieee＠aol.com

I came across these DEC VAX manuals while looking for something else. Am not selling, but will provide information from these if needed non-commercially. DECserver 300 RF30 / RF71 R215F KFQSA BA46 RRD42 StorageWorks family user guide VMS 5.5-2 release notes VMS 5.5 upgrade

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Ithaca Intersystems DPS-1 available (?)

by classiccmp＠crash.com

Just spotted this in last week's Want Advertiser - didn't get around to reading the computer section... Located in Townsend, MA maybe an hour out of Boston? Rest is literal from the ad. I called just now to see if it was still available, but no answer. I have no affiliation with the seller. ===== ITHACA INTERSYS DPS-1. This is an extremely rare S-100 bus minicomputer >from 1979. Mint cond & has many cards inside, all orig. It also comes w/ the mathcing Ithaca dual 8" drive encl. 2 terminals & 2 other drives that can go w/it. 1 of these recently sold on E-Bay for $4000. Priced for quick sale, $1000; Call Aaron 2:30-9:30PM. (Townsend) 978-597-8018 [I believe this is a residential number. GMT-0500. --S.]

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Signetics 2650

by phillipmilks＠juno.com

I'd like to find (buy) these IC's & equipment, development systems, etc for it. E.G. Instructor 50, SBC w/ optical card reader, etc. TIA ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

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Cray T3-D Supercomputer Gov't Auction

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>I also think this is a good idea. It would give the RCS folks a >bit more publicity and general visibility. I'm not overly fond of >Providence, RI, but the area near Brown University is nice. It'd >still be easy for people to stay in Boston and catch a train >(or drive) down to the event. There is also the proximity to the RICM... Megan

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watch out for this guys!!! [Fwd: Access restricted: Verify your account information.]

by fernande＠internet1.net

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Cray T3-D Supercomputer Gov't Auction

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>Hey, here's an idea - hold VCFeast 2.0 in the RCS mill, if a big room is >available. It has that wonderful DEC Maynard look about it. And we will >not have to move either the KL10D or the Univac 9300. I like that... I could display the 11/70 (decdatasystem570)... I'll have to get some time to work on it... Megan

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OT: Florida junkyard

by aw288＠osfn.org

I received a lead on some interesting junk located in Iverness, Florida, and I need some eyes and ears. Is anyone local to that area? The interesting junk in question is an AN/FPS-7 radar set (minus antenna). This is a very large, powerful, 1950s air defense set - look for lots of very large waveguide. And if you go to the yard - who knows, you might see some cool DECjunk. William Donzelli aw288(a)osfn.org

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FW: Huge lot of DEC parts on E-pay

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

I would also chip in a little... but even though I'm sort of in the neighborhood (about 20 minutes away from him), I don't have the storage space for such a haul... Then the question becomes how we part things out to people? Does someone start offering them on ebay? Do they get parted out to the people who contributed to save them (and who decides the value)? Do they get maintained as a central cache where CCmpR's can purchase spares (with the contributors getting a price break)? So much hardware... it would be shame to see it disappear from the available pool forever... (if course, that would mean that whatever is left is that much more valuable). Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: gentry at zk3.dec.com (work) | | Unix Support Engineering Group | mbg at world.std.com (home) | | Hewlett Packard | (s/ at /@/) | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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Cray T3-D Supercomputer Gov't Auction

by mross666＠hotmail.com

>Too bad it needs 440v 3phase and also requires the cooling unit, how >cool >would that be to have setup at VCF-East 2.0 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >Anybody gonna bid??? I would think about it... but I'm a 'foreign national'. Funny they think they can discriminate against permanent residents that way... ho hum. Well never mind - I WILL bring my Connection Machine to VCF-East! :-) Wonder if there are prizes for 'most blinkenlights'? :-) BTW anyone else who owns one please get in touch - there can't be many of us! Mike http://www.corestore.org _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Mike 2 8008 Computer on EBAY

by gmphillips＠earthlink.net

Not sure if anyone here might be interested in this. Never seen one on EBAY before. Didn't this machine show up around the same time as the Mark-8? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2067562893

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Fwd: Data General Eclipse in East Aurora, NY being scrapped (fwd)

by foo＠siconic.com

See below Christian's message for the information on 5 Data General Eclipse's waiting to be scrapped after this weekend. Can anyone rescue them? Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com * ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:11:10 -0500 From: Christian Fandt <cfandt(a)netsync.net> To: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> Subject: Fwd: Data General Eclipse in East Aurora, NY being scrapped Hey Sellam! Sorry I can't talk much at the moment, but I would like to ask you to pass this on to the ClassicCmp list. I cannot take the gear but it should _definitely_ be rescued. Wish I had the space (and time too! This is short notice for me.). Guess the fella found my email address through the Rescue List or maybe a web search, or ? East Aurora is a suburb of Buffalo, it's about five to ten miles southeast of the city and about ten or so miles "inland" from Interstate 90. Best regards to everyone. I promise to write to you, Sellam, later in the Fall to see what's been happenin' lately. -Chris NNNN -- -- >From: "Eric Kotz" <eric(a)erickotz.com> >To: <cfandt(a)netsync.net> >Subject: Data General Eclipse in East Aurora, NY being scrapped >Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:50:54 -0500 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 >X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 > tests=none > version=2.31 >X-Spam-Level: > >Hello, > I saw you are interested in many Data General systems. Where my dad >works, they have a total of 5 Data General Eclipse systems that >are being scrapped. 3 work, two are parts machines (parts machines are >missing the actual racks). I see you guys want Data General hardware-I'm >wondering if you have any interest in these machines. >These would be free for the taking. We also have like lots of >disks/manuals/etc for them. > >Now the caveat:These MUST DISAPPEAR by the weekend. If they are still here >monday, they are scrap. Personally, I can't bear to see these go for >scrap-they are so unique, and the fact that they work still must be more >unique. They were in service up until a month ago. > >The machines are in East Aurora, NY (about an hour from you). If you have >any interest, or know >someone that does, please send me an email, or call me at 585-758-3274 > >Thanks, >Eric Kotz >eric(a)erickotz.com > >--------------------------------------------------------- >This message has been ROT-26 encrypted for security purposes. Any attempt >to decrypt this message is illegal under the DMCA. Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net Member of Antique Wireless Association URL: http://www.antiquewireless.org/

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calculators, was: Re: Best Find of the Weekend!

by dittman＠dittman.net

> I have a 16c here. Nice little piece. Does anyone have a PDF of the HP-16C manual? I've seen a CD for sale with all the manuals, but I just need the one. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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SPARCbook and other finds Today

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Today I got 2 Tadpole Sparcbook laptops ( one is good for parts only and neither had a battery); a Sun Sparcstation IPC; a Compaq docking station with the cdrom drive still in it (I have looking for one of these drives for my Compaq laptop that I got from a thrift some time back); 2-IBM 4224 printers; digital LA310 printer; a Sun optical mousepad; and several other items all for $19.

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Best Find of the Weekend!

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> At 03:29 PM 11/8/02 -0800, you wrote: > >I still like the old TI Programmers calculator that I found a few years back > >at the "Tektronix Country Store" (where they surplus stuff). > > FWIW I think that at least two of these Tek 31s came from that store. The > paper work with one of them has "List $4550.oo Sell $450.oo Brand New" > written on it. I remember Rick Bensene telling me about the sale at > Tektronix's store and I think that was the price they were selling them for. > Also two of these have been stamped "No Service SALVAGE Available" in a > cartouche with the Tektronix world logo. Many, many years ago (back when it was only open to Tek employee's) the Country Store used to rock! My Dad and I'd spend a lot of Saturday mornings there, we'd get in line before it opened, and they had a dumpster out front that was loads of fun to go through while waiting. In the 70's and early 80's there was all kinds of interesting stuff there. I've still got some tools and other stuff that I got back then. One of the best items I got was a hand held IBM card punch, new in the box (and it still is). I still remember the rows of test equipment, and the occasional computer equipment that they'd have back then. I've been there a few times since then, but besides the calculator the only good thing I've found was an old gutted PDP-11 rack. Though when I got married a couple years ago, my folks found me a totally awsome computer desk there! I don't think I've been back since the guy that had run it for as long as I can remember retired a few years back. Part of the problem is I work when it's open, and the other problem is I'm not sure where they moved to (keep meaning to ask my Dad). Zane

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_Collectible Microcomputers_ now available for order from VCF

by foo＠siconic.com

Michael Nadeau has written a most excellent guide for collecting computers call (of all things), _Collectible Microcomputers_. It's not available in stores yet but through an arrangement with Michael and the publisher you can order it through the VCF website. http://www.vintage.org/special/collectible.php The price is $29.95 plus $5 for priority mail shipping. If you want a cheaper shipping option then just e-mail me. I'm taking payments through PayPal (including credit cards) or personal check or money order if you prefer (e-mail me for the latter options). We had hoped to introduce it at VCF 5.0 but the USPS took longer than expected to deliver the package. There are a ton of pictures in this book! There are a lot of machines that I've never heard of, which is cool, because I learned something new, and sucks, because now I have to go out and find them ;) Support your fellow list members and buy a copy of this book! Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Xerox PARC

by aek＠spies.com

> What your missing is the legal status of the work done at PARC. It was > in (large) part done with grant money This is the second time that you have said this, Bob. In all of the years I've been collecting information on PARC's research computers, I have never seen any mention of any money from outside of Xerox Corportation being used to fund their research. Where, exactly, did you see this information? There are ties between SRI and PARC, esp through the people from Englebart's lab that went to PARC, and it is well documented that his research was DARPA funded.

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Hitachi HM6116 Datasheet

by jlcollado＠bigfoot.com

Andreas, searching the web for the HM6116P-4 2Kx8 SRAM dataseet, I found an emial in a message board form you stating that you had the 1982 Hitachi Memory Databook. Could you send me the datasheet ? I would really appreciate it. Regards, Eng. Jose Luis Collado Buenos Aires, Argentina.

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Symbolics disk tool and ifs tape generating code

by mac.wood＠t-online.de

Hello, I'm desperatly looking for the Symbolics Disktool Software for addding non Symbolics MFM disks to my 3640 machine. I hope there are still some people with Symbolics Lisp Machines out there who could help me, By browsing older netnews articles I found a posting concering some lisp code to generate a breath-of-live tape i.e installing a machine without access to a running Symbolics 36xx machine. Here's the link to that posting: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=David+Gadbois+group:cu.slug&hl=de&lr=&ie=U TF-8&selm=899148625.11494%40news.Colorado.EDU&rnum=6 Does someone still have that code ? Any bit of information will be appreciated. Regards, Marc

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ENOUGH! was: Re: _Collectible Microcomputers_ now available fororder from VCF

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> > I apologize for failing to adequately trim the message that I appended > mine to. The juxtaposition made an implication about Dick that should > instead have been the option of each person to draw their own conclusion. > > > It should be a cause for concern that after ubiquitously voicing unpopular > opinions about every issue (such as that MICROS~1 products did "not have > security holes"), that he would spam all with a virus and disappear > without a trace. ROFL! Thanks Fred! That really made my day! Glen 0/0

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Best Find of the Weekend!

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

OK I'm claiming the prize now and it's only Friday! Top this: Not one, not two, but THREE Tektronix 31 calculators, all NIB! Found these at a garage sale. They appear to be from the estate of a Tektronix employee that bought them in Beaverton and shipped them to Orlando when he was transferred here. Two are "normal" 31s, the other is a different color and is marked "Coulter Model 43 Data Converter". It has options 1, 4, Pa and Pb installed. I've posted a couple of pictures of it at <http://home.cfl.rr.com/rigdon14/tek-31/>. I haven't checked out the other two yet but they also seem to be well optioned out and have what I think is the interface to connect the TM500 modular instruments. Joe :-)

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OT: Phones (was re: BBSs & PPP)

by classiccmp＠crash.com

Sellam Ismail writes: . > I am UberGeek. I can't argue with this one -- I have no warehouse to "whip out" for the UberGeek comparo... ;^) > Merlin's suck. I've got a full-blown miniature central office in > my house. The eOn (formerly Cortelco) Millennium [...] I think most of us would be well served by a small Panasonic or AT&T Legend hybrid switch. Many people would be stepping up with a nice 3x8 or 4x12 system. If any of you are wondering, I'm here to tell you its worth it if you like to tinker with phones as well as computers. As for me, I've got a nice little Nortel CICS switch and voice jail nailed to the wall in the basement. And soon, very very soon, callers on hold will relax to the mellow strains of Mel Torme belting out his immortal version of "So Happy Together" or Guy Lombardo's version of "Mrs. Robinson," and other aural atrocities... Follow this link if you're more curious than revolted: www.ultralounge.com (Flash req.) or http://www.dblcrown.com/eow1.html for a review. Far, far afield, I know... Ob. classiccmp: Did anyone here pick up one of the two VAX 11/725's that went on eBay recently? --Steve.

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Appearance on TechTV

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I will be appearing on TechTV this Thursday, November 7, between the hours >of 4:00p and 5:30p. I don't know the name of the program or the exact >time (I'll be finding out tomorrow) but this at least gives you advance >warning if you want to catch it. well gee... maybe if I had received this BEFORE 9:15 on the 7th I could have taped it and dumped to MPEG for everyone. Any idea yet what the name of the show is? TechTV tends to repeat the daytime stuff during the later hours. Maybe it will be shown again later tonight. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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ENOUGH! was: Re: _Collectible Microcomputers_ now available for order from VCF

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

>You can forward this on to him. He knows how to reach me. You, and your opinions, are not worth it ... Rich B. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Discovery Computers 4 Sale

by vern5wright＠hotmail.com

I have two Discovery computers (x86 multiprocessor) for sale REASONABLE or amusing trade, in San Diego. Amazing machines - wish I had the time to play with them but I'm trying to get down to 27 machines. Be quick - or next week they'll go to the Computer Museum. Vern Wright vernon_wright(a)hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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VAX 11/750 Restoration Project

by GOOI＠oce.nl

I do not have any experience with VAX 11/750's, but I have once heard the following about the PSU. They are not like the PDP-11 PSU blocks. Those can operate without any load as they are series regulators. The PSU's of the VAX 11/750 *must* have a certain minimum load for correct operation because they are switched-mode. I do not remember if those SMPSU's can be damaged by running them without a minimum load, but I know SMPSU's that will die without a load. So, to be on the safe side: get some bulbs from your car, connect them to the outputs of the PSU to shine a some light on the restoration of the VAX 11/750 ;-) success, - Henk.

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DEC Parts haul

by jpl15＠panix.com

I'd gladly kick in some bux toward this... both selfishly (I want some stuff for my 11/44 system) but more to just help preserve this resource and keep it out of the scrap shredders. And I'd be willing to also give money to rent a local (to the Stuff) storage unit for a month or two until logistics could be worked out. Further, I'd help out with transportation if the load as a whole has to be shipped somewhere out of the area it's in now. Cheers John

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FW: Huge lot of DEC parts on E-pay

by mtapley＠swri.edu

I'd donate a small amount. I don't think I need any parts now. It'd be cool to get consideration if I need some later, but c'est la vie if not. - Mark

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ENOUGH! was: Re: _Collectible Microcomputers_ now available for order from VCF

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

>I apologize for failing to adequately trim the message that I appended >mine to. The juxtaposition made an implication about Dick that should >instead have been the option of each person to draw their own conclusion. Whatever... >It should be a cause for concern that after ubiquitously voicing unpopular >opinions about every issue (such as that MICROS~1 products did "not have >security holes"), that he would spam all with a virus and disappear >without a trace. Perhaps he left because he felt he was unwanted? After the responses to your message, I would guess that he didn't exactly feel the love around here. Certainly I didn't agree with him on every point, and his battles tended to escalate pretty quickly, but he has never done anything to me personally, and I can put politics aside. He and I have made several deals on the side for parts, and he has provided me with some very good technical help and suggestions. I contacted him recently, and all is going quite well with him. He is extremely busy with several projects, and he said he couldn't devote the time necessary to be active on the list. Also, he gave a reasonable explanation for the virus issue, and said that it had finally been cleared >from his PC. Although *he did not directly say this*, I think the virus issue and the flamewars made him (like they did me) want to leave the list. If anyone wishes to contact him to verify any of this, I'll provide his email address upon request. Oh, and by the way, flamewars are one thing, but picking on someone who can't read the message to defend himself is quite another -- whether or not you agreed with him... Rich B. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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ENOUGH! was: Re: _Collectible Microcomputers_ now available for order from VCF

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I second that, Marvin. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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FW: Huge lot of DEC parts on E-pay

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

I'd chip in a chunk.... I mean... I _could_ afford the lot, but there's no way in hell I can store it, or have it shipped to Holland, where I am now... *sigh* --f > -----Original Message----- > From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 5:32 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: FW: Huge lot of DEC parts on E-pay > > > On Fri, 8 Nov 2002, Tothwolf wrote: > > > On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Bruce Lane wrote: > > > > > Found on Usenet. The starting bid is a bit high, but > perhaps listmembers > > > could pool resources...? > > > > > > I leave it to you to decide. If I were still collecting, > I'd chip in a > > > bit myself. > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2068638523 > > > > Wow...is this seller legit? > > > > I wonder if this lot would fill even Sellam's warehouse? ;) > > It's already full. This would break me. > > But we should definitely get a pool going so we can at least make Mail > List pay way more for it than he wants to. > > Sellam Ismail Vintage > Computer Festival > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------- > International Man of Intrigue and Danger > http://www.vintage.org > > * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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MS-DOS file needed

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

Doe anyone have a copy of BACKUP.EXE from MS-DOS 5.0 that they would zip and email to me? TIA -- Glen 0/0 If I am not for myself, who will be for me? And if not now, when? -- Pirkei Avot

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