- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by ejchapel＠attbi.com

I have a M0100 mouse in good condition. Contact me for if you are still looking. Ed Chapel Vancouver WA USA >From: "Arthur Odekerken" <admin(a)cchasselt.be> >To: <dan(a)decodesystems.com> >Subject: Apple mouse >Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 23:51:07 +0100 > >Hi! > >I am a systems administrator at a cultural center in Belgium. We have 3 >light tables (12 years old) that are steered with a mouse but we only have >one mouse left. It was very hard for me to find a mouse that worked, >because it had to be a female DB9 Serial plug, with at least 7 cables >soldered. Finally I came across the Apple M0100 (Made in the U.S.A. type >590-0320). At your website I found some pictures of the same mouse. My >question now is, do you know where I can find such a mouse, because if I >don't find it, it could cost the centre a lot more money than just the >price of one mouse. > >Thanks! > >Arthur Odekerken

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8086/8088 Primer - an intro to the Architecture, System Design, & Programming

by collison＠cnri.reston.va.us

I found a manual in my collectibles, "The 8086/8088 Primer - An Introduction to Their Architecture, System Design, and Programming" Anyone interested?

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Clinton Macintosh Repair & Maintenance manual

by collison＠cnri.reston.va.us

Anybody have an interest in this?

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Dos V3.2, V3.10, & V2.0 - who was looking for this?

by collison＠cnri.reston.va.us

I found several versions of DOS in my collectibles, incl.: DOS V3.10 on 51/4 floppies with ref manual, user's guide, & applic setup guide DOS V2.0 on 51/4 floppies with ref manual DOS V3.2 users guide [may have the OS on floppies, but would need to determine interest prior to searching] Anyway, there was some traffic a few days ago from someone looking for an early version of DOS on floppies, 51/4 I think So, anyone out there interested?

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New to List

by paul＠ease.co.uk

Hi all I?m new to this, but IBM AS/400 and larger mainframes are my interests. Paul

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HP9000 Workstations

by amanise＠mscn.demon.co.uk

Hi Folks, Please forgive my ignorance in this respect, but are HP9000 series 300 and 700 workstations considered classic computers yet. The ones I'm thinking of were new around about 1992, and are pretty well complete - although the owner can't get them to boot now. You might have seen my list of stuff I posted here last week - same stuff. I thought I'd better make a posting asking a bit more about their classic status now - since I didn't get a single expression of interest in the equipment. Are they desirable at all - or just old boxes? The lack of interest might have been because I stated thet they were uk based, do any other Brits subscribe to this list? So many questions, so little time.... Seriously, if anyone can spare a few minutes to steer me in the right direction on getting rid of these things I'd really appreciate it. Many thanks Adrian Manise

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Was there a DEC LINC-5 (not -8)?

by classiccmp＠crash.com

> > There actually may be more PDP-12s out there today than there are PDP-8s > > or PDP-8/Is. Certainly more than the PDP-8/S or LINC-8 machines. > > If only I could find a LINC-8. :-/ Something I've been wondering about -- my prep school had what I very strongly remember being labeled as a LINC-5, definitely DEC, a large cabinet with formica counter under a blinkenlight front panel. And a TTY or Flex-o-writer positioned next to or mounted on an "L" or return extension of the counter. The powder blue/lime green color scheme from the LINC-8 photos looks right, but it was definitely in the neighborhood of ~5 feet tall rather than a standard 19" rack. It was built out of what must have been Flip Chips, in a cage around to the right of the unit as you faced the console. Sadly they decommissioned it after my first year (1981/82), and I never got a chance to learn anything about it - it was reserved for upper classmen only. Also, the sole teacher who understood the beast (Mr. Garrison, noted for his gruff nature and pipe smoking) was leaving or retiring after that year. Is my memory faulty and this had to be a LINC-8, or was there such a thing as a LINC-5? Thanks, --Steve. LINC Links: The LINC: An Early "Personal Computer" [Quick history. --S.] http://www.ddj.com/documents/s=1493/ddj0004hc/do200007hc001.htm Laboratory Instrument Computer (LINC) "The Genesis of a Technological Revolution" [Nice, narrative history of the original development. --S.] http://www.nih.gov/od/museum/exhibits/linc/main.html What different PDP-8 models were made? http://www.faqs.org/faqs/dec-faq/pdp8/section-6.html

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Help with pricing on EPay

by 3sdiarftt02＠sneakemail.com

> One of my main beefs are the number of sellers in the US > who restrict the volume of bids by refusing to ship to > anywhere outside own their limited vision of the world. > Either thru fear of unknown extra efforts, (which for the > most part are minimal) or even ignoring the "will ship to" > section. My pet hate is people that charge 50% to 100% more postage to ship from the US to Australia than it actually costs. I have been gouged, *over*charged, an amount almost equal to the cost of the item before now. That is to say that on a US$25 item I might be charged US$35 postage, but it's only cost US$18 for them to post. I've walked away from purchases where postage costs have been this disproportionally high. Chris J.

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IBM system 3

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

Oh yeah, there are other stories concerning left behind comps. ironic though, i listen to a satellite hobbiest radio network (www.w0kie.com) and thier playing the blues as i am writing this. while working security at a local plant, the managers were so used to my scrounging that they usually told me about new stuff in the scrap bin during my break. so as usual, when hearing about "some computer stuff in the bin" i go out to it expecting more plc stuff (joy, more westinghouse pc-1100's to add to my collection). i look into the bin and find two boxes with non standard port/ connectors on it marked "four phase systems". i was about to load them into my car - when i thought why, i'll never find anything more for this comp no docs or hd's,printer etc. it turns out that i left 460/470 cpu's go for scrap! next week - same story but these are still on the loading dock - yep my jaw about hit the floor when i found a rack with the hd,diablo disc drive,comms,printer and terminals next to the rack and a box of spare cards for both cpu's aggghhhhh! i still have that half of the system. but wait it get's better!! last week - i call the local retired ibm c.e. and we start talking about old comps when i bring up the rare four phase stuff. yep he said it - "wow i just threw a complete system 470 away last year" - doh!!!!!! of all the systems i have passed up - the iv-70 is the one that haunts me the most - so close yet so far. someday - i may find the cpu's, or part with the half that i have (no, not scrap but trade or give away). one note - i am glad that the VCF does have a complete four phase system 470 perserved - that fact alone help's me sleep at night when i remember my mistake of leaving the cpu's in the scrapper. Bill Message: 5 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 13:44:33 -0500 (EST) From: William Donzelli To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org cc: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: IBM system 3 Re: PDP-12 on eBay (IBM 650 on ebay) Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > I curse this day --> Back in college (many years ago, about 1983, before I > got into collecting), I went to the apartment of a fellow compsci major to > quell some beer. In the middle of his living room was a complete IBM system > 3, in perfectly mint condition. He told me I could have it if I could get it > out of there. Idiot me said "You gotta be kidding - no thanks". *SIGH* This seems to be a good test to see if you are an official old-timer in the computer collecting hobby - passing up a free machine that today people would kill for. I have been there, many times (IBM, Amdahl, DG). How about others? William Donzelli aw288(a)osfn.org --__--__-- __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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DOS 3.20

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

Hmm... I'm ancient, not quite set in my ways, but close, and really want to get hold of that book. The shot at getting one on e-bay was pretty close (package, disk and all!), but the auction had already closed. Hmm. Do we have acces, somewhere, to a 'grand library of esoteric tech-dom?' Might find one there... -smiles- Cheers! Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of Sellam > Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 11:55 AM > To: 'cctalk(a)classiccmp.org' > Subject: RE: DOS 3.20 > > On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Tillman, Edward wrote: > > > Any ideas where to find one now though? > > Try a local thrift store. If you don't find the manual you're looking > for, you may just find a good book on MS-DOS that has similar information. > > Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer > Festival > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > International Man of Intrigue and Danger > http://www.vintage.org > > * Old computing resources for business and academia at > www.VintageTech.com * >

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VAX 11/780 /750 Diagnostics - new project

by msell＠ontimesupport.com

Guys, After fighting (with no success) my 11/780 again today and wasting a buttload of electricity doing it, it looks like I'm going to have to bite the bullet and create a diagnostic application to help me figure what is wrong with the beast. I originally thought about writing a JAVA-based application that would communicate with the console (card on the 750 and 11/03 on the 780) and by using the minimal troubleshooting commands available, and at least isolate what sections of the startup routines were failing or examine the memory space to figure out what may or may not be responding or is out-of-whack. I would appreciate it if anyone here had some documentation for the 780 outside of the following manuals: Diagnostic System User's Guide Hardware Users Guide Remote Diagnostic Option Guide ... available for purchase - please let me know. These manuals I already have, and if I can't get any clear documentation describing the routines that the 11/03 is executing, then I'll have to manually (with the help of this application) disassemble the code to determine what's not happy. The built in console diagnostics of the 780 do not really give a clear enough picture to find out exactly what has failed just by looking at the program counter value when the 11/03 stops during the boot process (at least with the troubleshooting docs I currently have). I was hoping to create an application that would simulate the boot process, but by examining/depositing register contents as the 11/03 would normally execute them, and provide more detailed information. Of course, this application, being serial based, could certainly extend beyond the realms of the 11/780 and 11/750. You could conceivably deposit boot programs into memory if your boot media fails, or even extend the application to work with other computers/manufacturers as well. Any suggestions or additional comments would be welcome. I would probably make this application available under a GPL- style license, even though I do not agree with Mr. Stallman's religious beliefs regarding commercial application development... (but that is a different story for another day) - Matt P.S. - Gunther - did you get your 780 running yet? Hopefully I can help you out as well. Matthew Sell Programmer On Time Support, Inc. www.ontimesupport.com (281) 296-6066 Join the Metrology Software discussion group METLIST! http://www.ontimesupport.com/subscribe_t&c.html. "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er...

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Help with pricing on EPay

by lgwalker＠mts.net

I buy and occasionally sell on EPay. Since I am out in the boonies now, I no longer have the luxury of a great curbside, dumpster, yardsale, or thrift-shop finds. While despite this, I did retrieve 2 DEC Pros from the town dump, and a complete Adam system, in the last 1 1/2 years here, and found a local salvager that gobbled up the remains of a government department that was closed down, there is very little available locally. It becomes a challenge to acquire even parts for your existing collection. From my perspective EPay serves a valuable function, and there are many of us far from urban centers. A recent request for Vax parts from a person. unexpectantly, in rural Alberta (Saskatchewan ?) drove that home to me, and it is true whether you're one of our strange breed, in India, Africa, or the Austalasia regions. One of my main beefs are the number of sellers in the US who restrict the volume of bids by refusing to ship to anywhere outside own their limited vision of the world. Either thru fear of unknown extra efforts, (which for the most part are minimal) or even ignoring the "will ship to" section. I routinely respond to something I'm interested in with "will you not ship to Canada" and the answer is almost invariably yes. They simply did the default form. Most Canadians are aware of this frustrating US national jingoism and rarely (never ?) do you find them posting similiar restrictions on sales because they know it simply involves filling out a small slip at the post office. The problems with the commercial shippers like UPS is a different number, and while it may work well in-country is a disaster outside. Similarly where I live, we pick up at the local post office so those who won't ship to a PO box are city dwellers who don't realise the realities outside the urban centers. Street addresses don't mean much here. Lawrence lgwalker@ mts.net

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Was there a DEC LINC-5 (not -8)?

by classiccmp＠crash.com

> > There actually may be more PDP-12s out there today than there are PDP-8s > > or PDP-8/Is. Certainly more than the PDP-8/S or LINC-8 machines. > > If only I could find a LINC-8. :-/ Something I've been wondering about -- my prep school had what I very strongly remember being labeled as a LINC-5, definitely DEC, a large cabinet with formica counter under a blinkenlight front panel. And a TTY or Flex-o-writer positioned next to or mounted on an "L" or return extension of the counter. The powder blue/lime green color scheme from the LINC-8 photos looks right, but it was definitely in the neighborhood of ~5 feet tall rather than a standard 19" rack. It was built out of what must have been Flip Chips, in a cage around to the right of the unit as you faced the console. Sadly they decommissioned it after my first year (1981/82), and I never got a chance to learn anything about it - it was reserved for upper classmen only. Also, the sole teacher who understood the beast (Mr. Garrison, noted for his gruff nature and pipe smoking) was leaving or retiring after that year. Is my memory faulty and this had to be a LINC-8, or was there such a thing as a LINC-5? Thanks, --Steve. LINC Links: The LINC: An Early "Personal Computer" [Quick history. --S.] http://www.ddj.com/documents/s=1493/ddj0004hc/do200007hc001.htm Laboratory Instrument Computer (LINC) "The Genesis of a Technological Revolution" [Nice, narrative history of the original development. --S.] http://www.nih.gov/od/museum/exhibits/linc/main.html What different PDP-8 models were made? http://www.faqs.org/faqs/dec-faq/pdp8/section-6.html

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VAXStation 4000/60

by livewire＠netadel.com

I rescued a VAXStation 4000/60 from Weirdstuff a few months ago and made a few attempts at locating VMS for it. I've had no luck, and due to a new project I've gotten myself into, I'd really like to find a home for this critter. It's got 24MB RAM and a hard disk of some size (I knew this earlier today..). It's in nice physical condition save the flip down panel cover which got broken off. If anyone wants this, and is in the SF Bay area (the closer to Mountain View the better) please send me an email and we'l arrange a pickup time/date. This is free to a good home. ---------------------------------------------- PLEASE NOTE: This e-mail server will be in the process of transitioning >from one IP address to another on 01/25/2003. If you experience un- deliverable email, bounced email, or other stangenesses, it is probably due to the move. Please try back in a couple of days if your mail to me gets messed up. ---------------------------------------------------

23 years, 3 months

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IBM 3670 Brokerage Communication System - need old 1971 manuals

by jimkeo＠multi-platforms.com

Can anyone suggest where I might obtain an original or copy (they are less than 50 pages) of 2 IBM manuals: GA27-3048 IBM 3670 Brokerage Communication System Concepts & Configurator GA27-3049 IBM 3670 Brokerage Communication System Installation & Planning Also, if anyone recollects working with such a system (Merrill Lynch in early 70's?) I would appreciate a description of how a broker or analyst could specify stocks in which he/she was interested along with some price limits or ranges and then receive a message alert on the terminal if limits were exceeded during real-time monitoring of trades in that security. In other words how were price alerts implemented. Email me directly via jimkeo(a)multi-platforms.com with Subject "IBM 3670" if you can. Thanks! - Jim Jim Keohane, Multi-Platforms, Inc. "It's not whether you win or lose. It's whether you win!"

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[for sale] IBM 5100 + IBM 5120

by collector＠email.it

For sale: IBM 5100 + manuals + cassette http://www.inversewave.com/vintage/ibm5100.zip IBM 5120 http://www.inversewave.com/vintage/ibm5120.zip regards,

23 years, 3 months

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IBM 5100

by gessler＠ucla.edu

I'm away from home but would appreciate hearing more about the possibility of buying a 5100 or related computer. Could someone please resend me the information? Many thanks, Nick

23 years, 3 months

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An original Compaq "portable"

by MTPro＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/13/2003 12:55:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, cctalk-request(a)classiccmp.org writes: > YA AOL luser. LART, anyone? Hi Jeffrey, I just couldn't pass up responding to this from you. Prejudice is prejudice and it is wrong. You cannot stereotype any group of people, yeah, not even AOL users. You owe me and other decent AOL users on the list an apology. This is arrogance pure and simple Mr. high and mighty "subatomix" user. Best, David

23 years, 3 months

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Mentec Hobbyist plans?

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Anybody know if Mentec (http://www.mentec-inc.com) has just dropped their hobbyist licensing/cdrom plans? Bill -- bill bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net austin, texas

23 years, 3 months

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Looking for both parties who claimed my NeXT inkjet and IBM parts

by jingber＠ix.netcom.com

I had a rather lousy turn of events last night and hosed my inbox. I'm looking for the parties who negotiated a deal with myself for 1) NeXT inkjet printer, and 2) The remainder of the NeXT and IBM items. Thank You, Jeff

23 years, 3 months

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An original AOLuser

by loedman1＠juno.com

>The AOL slamming that goes about on this list - indeed any of the >AOL/Microsoft/Luser slamming - does not help our image either. Yes, >folks, many people on the outside, including *many* respectable old >computer collectors, do not have a very good opinion of this list... >William Donzelli >aw288(a)osfn.org With the exception of the often excessive sarcasm of a certain member, I, as a relative newcomer find this list to be both informative and quite well run and the members to be quite generous with their knowledge both on and off the list. Rich Stephenson

23 years, 3 months

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(no subject)

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

Don't know if anyone would find anything useful here, but in a search for datasheets, I found this link ... Electronics Datasheets links ... http://la.mine.nu/~emil/electron.html

23 years, 3 months

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Update: BBC Acorn

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 12, 18:38, Joe wrote: > Well the Acorn is alive again. I finally got around to fixing the > power supply. That also took care of the buzzing sound that was > coming from the speaker. I'm also now getting a prompt. Before the > PSU blew I was getting the ROM messages but no prompt. Now I'm > getting "Acorn OS", "Acorn DFS", "BASIC" and ">" with a blinking > underline prompt after that. However it's still not responding to > the keyboard (except for the Control-Break). Well, that's a fair amount of progress, even without the keyboard. Do you still have the description I wrote about how it works? > Just for the hell of it I tried powering it up with different > ROMs removed. With the "US BASIC" ROM removed it asked "What Language?". > Of course since the keyboard wasn't working I couldn't tell it anything. You wouldn't have been able to anyway. Without a language ROM of some sort, it won't listen to you. unless you have a Second Processor unit installed, and it drops to the "*" prompt. > With both the "US BASIC" and "DNFS" ROM removed it reported "View A2.1", > "No Text", Editing No File", "Screen Mode 7", "Printer Default" and a > "=>" prompt. Looks like I fell into some kind of monitor program. > Still can't do anything due to faulty keyboard. That's not a monitor prompt, it's the command mode of VIEW, which is a word processor. This is slightly odd. View is, in Acorn OS terms, a language, equivalent to BASIC, COMAL, LOGO, FORTH, Wordwise, or any number of terminal emulator ROMs. So removing BASIC but leaving View and the DNFS should have resulted in your getting the View prompt, just as it did when you took out both BASIC and DNFS. > I cleaned up before Christmas and misplaced the bag with the screws > for it, *&^(&%%! That's all right. No proper BBC Micro has screws, except three M3 machine screws to hold the PSU in place, and *possibly* some mushroom-head self-tappers to hold the PCB steady. The keyboard screws should be replaced with PCB clips for quick access, and the case screws should be thrown away ;-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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BBC Acorn

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 12, 19:43, Joe wrote: > Nope, all the RAMS are soldered directly to the board and no solder flux. I'm sure it was built with 32K and that appears to agree with the US model number. Yes, I'm sure it is, I was just pointing out that in the general case, amount of memory is not a good way to tell. AFAIK, Acorn sold only Model Bs in the States. > It's not running at the moment but when it was it said soemthing like: > > "Acron version 2.1 > DFS OS > BASIC OS" > > There's also a EPROM that says "DFS OS" in it so I think it's supposed to say that. I've not seen a US model start up, but I expect Acorn removed the "BBC Microcomputer" part for trademark reasons (in many countries outside the UK, BBC is a trademark of Brown Boveri & Cie, and anyway it wouldn't mean the same in the States). Presumably they changed the other strings too. How many (EP)ROMs are in it? Do they have any numbers on them? > OK thanks for the pointers. I searched the net but found so many sites that I haven't had time to go throught them all. If you're looking for repair information, the ones I listed are good places to start. You might also consider joining the BBC mailing list. If you want to, send a message with "subscribe bbc-micro" in the body, to majordomo at cloud9.co.uk. > Nope, that's not what I got. It didn't say anything about BBC or Microcomputer or the amount of memory and it definitely said "OS" twice. I did get the beep then the speaker had a slight buzzing in it. (Possible due the the failing capacitor in the PSU). I was in the process of checking the PSU outputs for noise when the cap blew. It was quite noticeable! Maybe they changed the banners more than I thought. > Actually I didn't get a cursor. I wasn't sure if it was supposed to have one or not. Yes, you should. > Thanks for the description. That's about what I expected. Sounds like I need to find a VIA. I need one for my spares anyway. There are two mylar(?) ribbon cables that connect the keyboard to the main circuit board. Is the wide one the column inputs and the narrow one the row outputs? (Keeping my fingers crossed that it's that simple!) I doubt if it's that simple. UK models don't use mylar ribbons, they use a single 17-way notched IDT cable with a 0.1" pitch, and with a single-row Molex IDT header at each end. If the cable is damaged you can use ordinary 34-way cable with 34-way 2-row IDC headers; just ignore the second row. Download the service manual; it has the keyboard diagram, with pinouts. Fix the PSU first, obviously. The Beeb is a bit choosy about power regulation, and if the 5V and 0V connectors (of which there are three pairs) don't all make good connections to the board, you can get strange faults because the voltage may be too low at some points on the board. The red and black wires are +5V and 0V respectively. There's a purple wire for -5V, but this is only used for the serial port and audio amp. There's a +12V output but only on the AMP connector at the front, as it's only needed for peripherals. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 3 months

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Apple II+

by 3sdiarftt02＠sneakemail.com

> I have a couple of Apple II+ computers circa 1979-1980 - were working > when shut down many years ago. Is there a market for these? or should > I put in trash? A rule of thumb I now go by: If you paid more than $50 for it and it still works, don't throw it out. Sell it or keep it, but don't throw it out. May still need some work, possibly referencing original price rather than the price you paid, but I'm liking it so far. Chris J.

23 years, 3 months

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Apple II+

by bradleyandassociates＠choice.net

Hello: I am new to this listing, so please bear with me. I have a couple of Apple II+ computers circa 1979-1980 - were working when shut down many years ago. Is there a market for these? or should I put in trash? Thanks. Ken Bradley Ken Bradley Bradley & Associates 859.344.1965 859.344.1967 (Fax) bradleyandassociates(a)choice.net http://users.choice.net/~bradl/ Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Bradley & Associates

23 years, 3 months

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IBM PS/2 Model 25

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/13/2003 3:20:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, jrkeys(a)concentric.net writes: << > I am looking for a good, cheap PS/2 Model 25 (sx I think). It's the > all-in-one model, with the screen built into the computer itself. It should > have at least one disk drive, hard drive and a keyboard and mouse would be > nice. > >> they can be found, but are QUITE heavy!

23 years, 3 months

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PDP-12 on eBay

by bones＠northrock.bm

You know you're (I'm) a geek when you're interested in buying CD's with high rez pix of naked computers <grin>. I too would love to have a copy of the CD - I wonder if he'd entertain the possibility of selling *that* on it's own... Dennis

23 years, 3 months

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Osborne OCC1

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Glen, Attached is a ZIP file with two JPEG images that are scans of pages from the Osborne 1 Technical Manual that relate to the PS and wiring. They might be useful to you. Bob -----Original Message----- From: acme(a)ao.net [mailto:acme@ao.net] Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 4:03 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Re: Osborne OCC1 From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> To: Glen Goodwin <acme(a)ao.net> Subject: Re: Osborne OCC1 Date: 01/08/2003 7:55 AM > I recently had an OCC-1 that blew something in the PSU. That odd thing was > at it kept working! I wasn't really intersted in it so I gave it to Glen Good > . I expect that he'll troubleshoot/repai > r it soon. Okay, Joe, I get the hint ;>) I'll take a look at it this weekend -- should be a quick and easy fix. Later -- Glen 0/0

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Osborne OCC1

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Oops! This was not meant to go to the list, but if the images are useful to anyone else ... -----Original Message----- From: Feldman, Robert Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 10:51 AM To: 'cctalk(a)classiccmp.org' Subject: RE: Re: Osborne OCC1 <snip>

23 years, 3 months

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MicroNOVA on eBay

by jss＠subatomix.com

Um, someone needs to bid this idea right out of the seller's head: "Don't need the microNOVA? Then toss it and use the rack!" http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=2300442901 Stirling, NJ. Pickup only. $1 init bid. I am not associated with the seller. -- Jeffrey Sharp

23 years, 3 months

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Fortran Coding Form

by Roy_Edenfield＠engelhard.com

If you still have these, I would like to have them. Please let me know. > I found a stack (3) of 'Fortran Coding Form' pads with an IBM logo, > GX28-7327-6 U/M 050, Printed in the USA. Legal size (8x17)Nice light > green, one stack is pretty nice, the others show a little yellowing. > Don't know what dates these were available for. The lab I found these at > was created in 1973, so that's a good limit for the 'Wayback machine'. > > I assume these are what Fortran coders would arrange their code on before > translating the code into the paperpunches. > > Header fields are Program, Programmer, Date, Punching Instructions > (Graphic or Punch), Page Of, Card Electro Number. > > The main area is headed up with Comm (comment?), Statement Number, Cont > (continue?), Fortran Statement, Identification Sequence, followed but > miscellaneous squares numbered from 1 to 80. > > Asterisked comments at the bottom are "A standard card form, IBM 888157, > is available for punching statements from this form" and "Number of forms > per pad may vary slightly". [snicker- especially if you pulled a few out!] > > Anyone want For Free? I imagine it'd be a cool prop material for your > classic cmp. I'll stuff it in an envelope and send it out bookrate. > > L

23 years, 3 months

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PDP-12 on eBay

by nicko＠hal-pc.org

> On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Hans B Pufal wrote: > > > Zane H. Healy wrote: > > >>It looks like Al Kossow is the high bidder now, and he surpased the > > > > > This is one system I *REALLY* hope he gets! I want to see scan's of some > > > of those manuals :^) > > > > Seems like Al has been outbid, is it time to set up a subscription to > > support Al in snagging the machine? I'd be up to subscribing $50 toward > > such a project. > > Is it only me, or does that listing look like hammered crap in > Mozilla? I'm on my laptop, which runs at 1400x1050 only, so I have the > fonts juked up to 14pt. The text runs right over the bidding frame and > most of the pics. > It's not the font size either - I turned my fonts down to 10 pt. and > no joy. > > Doc > Me to! Had to resort to IE to be able to read the whole page. -nick

23 years, 3 months

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DOS 1.0

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Those binders usually had useful information in them. And at least there was printed documentation, as opposed to today. As to the software, I wold hardly call it "infantile." Limited, perhaps. But remember what programs such as WordStar ran under (64KB RAM for CP/M and program code). I had WordStar on one 90KB SSSD disk on my Osborne 1, and could put 20 pages of text on another disk, and do real work. SuperCalc came on another 90KB disk. Try to do that with MS bloatware. -----Original Message----- From: Ed Tillman [mailto:ETILLMAN@satx.rr.com] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 12:13 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org; cctech(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: DOS 1.0 Hmm... In the '80s, almost everything came in small, tabbed 3-ring binders, and were all quite funny to read! :) Does anyone remember Peach Text, Peach Calc, WordStar or any of the other infantile office software? They all had 'em... Cheers... Ed <snip>

23 years, 3 months

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DOS 3.20

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

Any ideas where to find one now though? Cheers! Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "Fred Cisin > (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 12:02 AM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: DOS 3.20 > > On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, John Willis wrote: > > IBM PC-DOS or Micro$oft MS-DOS? I have the PC-DOS 3.20 manual. > > The only difference that I found between them (except for certain highly > customized OEM MS-DOS versions) was DRIVPARM. It is present in both, but > is not documented in PC-DOS. It is incompatible with the IBM BIOS. > > (DRIVPARM worked with both PC-DOS and MS-DOS with three different generic > clones; DRIVPARM would not work with either MS-DOS nor PC-DOS on real IBM > AT and PS/2 (model 50?)) > > > Some OEMs included the "technical reference manual" as appendix to their > MS-DOS manual. IBM sold it as a separate book after 2.00. >

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DOS 1.0

by mhaffely＠katun.com

I found an IBM M$-DOS 1.0 manual (no disks sadly) It comes in a three ring binder, and is quite funny to read, esp the errata. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. **********************************************************************

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Anybody near Bremerton, Washington?

by djg＠drs-esg.com

I have been looking for a Calcomp incremental plotter and found one in Bremerton, Washington but it is pickup only. Since I'm on the other coast that isn't too practical. Is anybody nearby that might be interested in picking it up and mailing it FedEx ground to me for some $? Thanks, David Gesswein http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Run an old computer with blinkenlights.

23 years, 3 months

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An original Compaq "portable"

by JOHNSOY＠aol.com

Thank you so much. I will try. Good luck in your hobby. YVONNE Y

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Eurobeeb finds

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

Before the new year I had a lead on some parts and said I would reveal what they were after I won or lost the bid on them. Well I won. What I got was a lot of EuroBeeb cards and parts. For those that don't know the EuroBeeb was a BBC Micro compatible computer but in a EuroCard (160mm x 100mm) format. As well as the standard CPU, VDU and I/O cards theer are a lot of digital I/O cards, analog I/O cards and some specials such as EPROM programmers. I also got the documentation for all the cards, the only thing I'm short of is some of the system software. For those who want to look there are some pictures at .. http://members.lycos.co.uk/leeedavison/6502/eurobeeb/score/index.html Cheers, Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

23 years, 3 months

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Old machine photos

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Foil, or any metallic reflector, can produce hot spots. A large piece of white poster board works better. A trick for photographing reflective surfaces is to use a black sheet _in front of_ the subject, and shoot with the lens sticking through a hole in the sheet. In this way, you don't get your own reflection in the picture. Hair spray also works, but might be hard to clean off. Spray laundry starch might also work, but I haven't tried it. Watch for glare off chip surfaces, which can make part numbers unreadable. The trick is to have the light coming in at an angle that does not reflect into the lens. A common setup is two (or 4) lights, one on either side, at a 45 degree angle (with the camera perpendicular to the subject). In this way, the fall-off from the light on one side is balanced by the opposite fall-off of the light on the other side, so the illumination is even across the subject. For 3D objects, it is customary to have the (brightest) light coming from the upper left, so the shadows are on the lower right. Sean's last comment is a good one -- keep taking pictures until you get good ones. The only added cost is in your time, but then why take the time to produce a poor picture? -----Original Message----- From: Sean 'Captain Napalm' Conner [mailto:spc@conman.org] Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:03 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Old machine photos > <snip> The goal is to light the computer well and > eliminate glare - especially on screens. A large piece of cardboard covered in aluminum foil makes a good reflector, and to reduce glare on monitors you may want to try hairspray. Professional photographers use it to reduce glare on glasses so it might be worth trying on a monitor if you don't think it'll hurt it. <snip> If it's a digital camera, go wild with the pictures. Take lots of pictures; more than you think you need. Then select the best from the lot. Why not? It's not like you have to pay for developing the pictures. -spc (Go for quantity, then select for quality ... )

23 years, 3 months

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Looking for 8050 drive(s)

by ksk＠ieee.org

Skipped content of type multipart/alternative

23 years, 3 months

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SEIKOSHA SP1000VC

by Pvolks＠usa.net

Hello there, for those interested I've got a SEIKOSHA SP1000VC with the C-64 cable. It has not operated in many years since I sold my c-64 a very long time ago. But it worked flawlessly and hasn't been dropped or abused since. For those interested I am asking for the first good offer over $40us. E-mail me if your interested. PETER K.

23 years, 3 months

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An original Compaq "portable"

by JOHNSOY＠aol.com

Look, Just tell me how to remove my name. Please. I can never give any information or help anyone. I am older and not interested. I have poor vision and to delete so many emails is more than I can deal with. Someone help me get unsubscribed...Please YVONNE Y

23 years, 3 months

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Mentec Hobbyist plans?

by mross666＠hotmail.com

>Bill Bradford wrote: > >Anybody know if Mentec (http://www.mentec-inc.com) has just >dropped their hobbyist licensing/cdrom plans? The Mentec Hobbyist license is *broken*. Clause 1. says: 'EMULATOR shall mean software owned by Digital Equipment Corporation that emulates the operation of a PDP-11 processor and allows PDP-11 programs and operating systems to run on non-PDP-11 systems.' It's crystal-clear; you can't run under the hobbyist license except on a emulator which is *owned by Digital*. There ARE no emulators 'owned by Digital' (or Compaq or HP for that matter). So the Mentec license is no help to anyone who wants to run pdp-11 OSes on emulation (SIMH, E11 etc), and stay 100% legal. It's no help at all as regards running on acutal -11 hardware. It's a very wierd term to have in a license... I guess this term is a hangover from the days when Bob Supnik was still at DEC, and SIMH might have become an official DEC project. Mike http://www.corestore.org _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

23 years, 3 months

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An original Compaq "portable"

by cb＠mythtech.net

> Then there were/are the Webbies... > > WebTV - Get youres' 2dAy! Hey... I got great use from WebTV... I bought someone's used system for $10 at a garage sale. Saved me $40 on the cost of the keyboard to work with my Satellite Decoder... and I got a 1 gig IDE hard drive as a bonus. :-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

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scanning notes (was RE: VAX 11/780 /750 Diagnostics - new project)

by cb＠mythtech.net

>> Do you have any tips for scanning books? Such as resolution, color >> settings, etc... And to go one step further... recommendations for what hardware people use for scanning? I am thinking about undertaking some manual archiving. Mostly so I can get rid of manuals that I no longer need, but might want to reference once again some day in the future. I was thinking of using an old HP OfficeJet all in one Fax/Scanner/Printer for the task. I figured that way I could drop a dozen pages on it at a time. I don't have a sheet feeder for any of my flatbed scanners. Would something like this work for the task? Or am I better off locating a cheap used sheet feeder for a flat bed scanner. In the long run I figure I will save to PDF... but with how cheap CDs are, I will most likely keep the interm scanned image as well, and just make the PDF more for easy quick access to the pages. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

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An original Compaq "portable"

by jac＠clarkeorg.com

I have an original Compaq portable, that I had hoped to some day gut out and put in a "modern" motherboard etc, with an updated screen, but now it appears as if it may actually be of worth to someone as is. I even have the original receipt from Sears Business Center, where I bought it. Got an IBM proprinter also at the time, but that is now long gone. Anyway, is there some way to find out what the value of my Compaq is? Thanks to all who reply. John Clarke Philadelphia, PA

23 years, 3 months

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Anybody need some RL02s?

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I got a mail from a person in Houston who has an 11/44 they needed to get rid of... but their u-haul truck fell through, and they had to haul it up here to Austin in batches, in their car. Tonight I got the first part of the batch - which ended up being a pair of RL02 drives, and a MINC-11! pictures: http://www.pdp11.org/minc/ Anybody need the RL02s? Right now, I'm concentrating mostly on getting all this documentation organized and scanned (finally!) and just messing around with smaller systems. So, I dont have space for the RL02s, although I'll be using that enclosure to rackmount some other equipment. Next week (hopefully), he'll be bringing up the 11/44 if weather and time permits. Therefore, two free RL02s. Must be picked up in Austin, Texas. I *might* have a disk pack for one of them around somewhere as well; need to dig. Megan Gentry - please email me your postal address again; I have a huge box of print sets and paper tapes to send your way. Email me if interested.. Bill -- bill bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net austin, texas

23 years, 3 months

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TK50 / RSX Docs

by runtime＠wzrd.com

Sorry, folks. Both have been spoken for. Don

23 years, 3 months

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Digging in basement, "new" finds (pick, m4 data 1/2 tape)

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I was digging in the basement, and found a few things I forgot I had. I think some on the list may be interested in copies of some of this stuff, if so, let me know off list. A lot of Pick Assembler documentation from my days working on the Pick O/S: The original "rainbow" microdata reality assembler manual, the ultimate pick assembler manual, the general automation pick assembler manual, and the alpha microsystems pick "open architecture" assembler manual. Some of the stuff in this box was "confidential - internal only" and not for public release. I doubt they care these days. Various info on the M4 Data autoloading 1/2 tape drive: The M4 Data 9900 series tape drive field service manual (very thick, includes schematics), the M4 Data Diagnostics manual for 8900, 9800, and 9903 streaming tape drives (this is really 5 pages of quick reference lists for the diagnostics on the drive). Then there is a 3 page chart showing the jumper settings for the optional SCSI interface card (this drive was most often pertec, not scsi). I seem to recall someone asking about this on the list a while back. I was sure I had accidentally pitched this info - so I was quite happy to find it, since I have a mint M4 in the basement :) Jay West

23 years, 3 months

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