- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I will gladly keep my eyes open for a set for you. At auction this only >cost me $10 because no one there wanted Mac stuff. Thanks. >As to were I get this stuff it's mostly at thrift's and auctions (the best >are schools and tech businesses The trifts around here never have anything that great, also tend to be expensive, and one of them won't even sell CPUs, just the rest of the stuff that went with it. (I finally got official word as to what happens when someone drops off a computer.. they told me it isn't an issue, they refuse them at the door, and they now chain off the lot at night and Sundays when they are closed so people can't drop off stuff and leave). Schools around here don't seem to auction things publically (once in a while they do them privately inside the school, but for the most part, they just throw stuff out... but at least I made a contact with someone at the school board of one of the local towns and told them to cut it out, if they are chucking things, give them to me, I'll take care of removal and disposal... they liked the idea as it reduced their costs, but I haven't heard from them since... maybe they just haven't tossed anything since I contacted them, I'll have to give them another call soon). And businesses... humm... around here, there are a few Pharmacutical companies, that is about it of size... and they destroy anything being disposed of (I tried REALLY REALLY hard to get stuff from one that was doing a major upgrade... they were literally throwing out brand new 15" LCD screens because they upped everyone to 17"s before all of the 15" were given out... but their policy dictated that they must be destroyed, so they were cracking them all before chucking them in the dumpster... I have a friend that works at the place, and he said it was killing him to do it and he and I made a number of calls to see if at the very least they would donate them to a local school or something... and people wonder why drugs cost so much in the USA!!). So it sounds like I am just in a crappy part of the country for computer salvage. I'll have to start poking around for other auctions... and maybe make a trip to the local land of landfills and see if any of the yards get machines they want to have removed. But at least I have been on the right track... I'm just going to have to try harder in the future. Thanks for the tips. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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[dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca: Re: PDP-11 stuff to get rid of]

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

More details. Bill ----- Forwarded message from David Evans <dfevans(a)bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> ----- Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:22:46 -0500 From: David Evans <dfevans(a)bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> To: Bill Bradford <mrbill(a)mrbill.net> Subject: Re: PDP-11 stuff to get rid of On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 10:13:58AM -0600, Bill Bradford wrote: > I can find some people to get it, if its okay for me to forward your > mail to a couple of mailing lists. > Sure. It's just way too massive, I can't devote proper power to it, and I can get the same amusement value in my 11/73 using SCSI disks on an MSCP adapter. It's located in Waterloo, in southern Ontario, Canada. I'd love to trade it for a PDP-11 nameplate for a BA123 (mine right now claims to be a VAXstation II/GPX) or maybe some more memory for my KDJ11-B, but I wouldn't say no to somebody willing to take it for the price of helping haul it down the stairs. :-) I have the rack rails and some SDI cables, too. I guess I could throw in a KDA50, since I doubt I'll ever need that given that I have the SCSI controller, but I can just as easily hang on to those boards since they're little. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans(a)bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Ph.D. Candidate, Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual ----- End forwarded message ----- -- bill bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net austin, texas

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[dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca: PDP-11 stuff to get rid of]

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Contact David directly if interested. ----- Forwarded message from David Evans <dfevans(a)bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> ----- Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:06:15 -0500 From: David Evans <dfevans(a)bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> To: mrbill(a)pdp11.org Subject: PDP-11 stuff to get rid of You want to come and haul my RA80 away? :-) -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans(a)bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Ph.D. Candidate, Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual ----- End forwarded message ----- -- bill bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net austin, texas

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Richard Crandall just cancelled a payment to you

by rick＠jelcoventures.com

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Ohio Scientific C4P-MF ROMs

by cott＠acclamation.com

I'm sure some of you in this group have heard of the "Catweasel" floppy controller, which allows you to read nearly any type of floppy. Recently, I sent Email to the manufacturer asking if they thought there was any possibility their controller would read my Ohio Scientific C4P floppies. After a little discussion, we decided it could. However, it turns out they're working on a new project: a hardware emulator for old 6502-based machines. Right now, it only emulates a Commodore 64, but they say that, if I can get them the ROMs, they can make it emulate a C4P, too. I sent them the ROMs from my cassette-based C4P, but it would be really cool if we could do the floppy-based one. Can anyone out there with a C4P-MF send me the ROMs? Thanks, Chris Ott

23 years, 3 months

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Help with pricing on vintage computers?

by gmanuel＠gmconsulting.net

Hi Everyone, I am new to the list and really love it already. I was wondering if anyone knew if there was a resource, like Kelley Blue Book sort of, for vintage computer pricing? I have several to sell and several I would like to get, but I have no idea what to ask or expect to pay for them (or even if they are collectible for that matter LOL). Any help would be appreciated. I am not looking for a book per se, but some place (a website maybe?) to get some ball park figures. Thanks, Greg Manuel

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cctalk digest, Vol 1 #378 - 36 msgs

by gstreet＠indy.net

> 7. Xenix OS for early generation IBM PC (Ron Collison) > 8. Macro Assembler for early generation PC (Ron Collison) > 9. 8086/8088 Primer - an intro to the Architecture, System > Design, & Programming (Ron Collison) Hello Ron, Indeed, I'm interested too! Thank you, Robert Greenstreet

23 years, 3 months

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M100 Keys Sought

by 3sdiarftt02＠sneakemail.com

No, I've found it, the: Novx M100 Multipoint Microprocessor Continuous Reference Ground Monitor http://www.novxcorp.com/html/m100.html (Isn't Google fun?) > > Now we're guessing between a cash register, a palmtop computer, a > Tandy > > computer, a telephone, a jazzy car, or a spiral galaxy... > > Certainly he means a DIY M100 Analogue Modular Synthesizer project! > http://www.takeonetech.de/buchi/m100/ > > Or maybe a Lotus Elan M100, or a Konica Q-M100 digital camera, or a > Sharp 19N-M100 television? Chris J.

23 years, 3 months

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M100 Keys Sought

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

Cute... Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "No Junk > Mail" <3sdiarftt02(a)sneakemail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:07 AM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: RE: M100 Keys Sought > > > Should I bet on the galaxy? > > No keys. > > > > On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Ed Chiodo wrote: > > > > I have a mint condition M100 that I would like to sell. > > > > One problem: the original keys were replaced with custom screened > > > > keys for an OEM application. Does anyone know of a source for > > > > replacement keys?

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Re: NeXT archives/museum?

by joe_web＠worldonline.fr

hello, i waqnt to open a museum next summer/winter. if i can have some documents, i am interrest. do you speak french or german, because i live in frane, and my english is not very good. by ---------- Initial Header -----------

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M100 Keys Sought

by 3sdiarftt02＠sneakemail.com

> > I have a mint condition M100 that I would like to sell. > > One problem: the original keys were replaced with custom screened > > keys for an OEM application. > > Does anyone know where I can get replacement keys? > You mean the Sord M100, don't you? > I'd keep the keys as they are - IMO they make an ordinary machine, > well, a > little less ordinary. Nah, it's the Milonio M100 pool cue http://users.myexcel.com/hughtiernan/cues/id88.htm But seriously, leave the keys and try and include any material related to the reason for the custom job. Historically much more interesting that way... Chris J.

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M100 Keys Sought

by Ed_Chiodo＠compuserve.com

I have a mint condition M100 that I would like to sell. One problem: the original keys were replaced with custom screened keys for an OEM application. Does anyone know where I can get replacement keys? Thanks, Ed

23 years, 3 months

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Fwd: Apple mouse needed in Belgium

by dan＠ekoan.com

Can anyone in Belgium help this fellow? >From: "Arthur Odekerken" <admin(a)cchasselt.be> >To: <dan(a)decodesystems.com> >Subject: Apple mouse >Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 23:51:07 +0100 > >Hi! > >I am a systems administrator at a cultural center in Belgium. We have 3 >light tables (12 years old) that are steered with a mouse but we only have >one mouse left. It was very hard for me to find a mouse that worked, >because it had to be a female DB9 Serial plug, with at least 7 cables >soldered. Finally I came across the Apple M0100 (Made in the U.S.A. type >590-0320). At your website I found some pictures of the same mouse. My >question now is, do you know where I can find such a mouse, because if I >don't find it, it could cost the centre a lot more money than just the >price of one mouse. > >Thanks! > >Arthur Odekerken

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PDP-12 on eBay

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Hi Chad / readers, I am not sure either, but this is what I know for sure. Before the merger SPERRY/Burroughs, Burroughs had a systems line but I do not know anything about those. SPERRY had the 1100-series; I programmed even assembly (MASM-1100) on those fine main frames. After the merger, so now it is UNISYS, the 2200 came available. It has a smaller footprint, lower power consumption, but is compatible with the 1100. Compiled/assmbled programs from the 1100 run on the 2200 without any re-compilation. I worked with the 1100 from 1990 to 1995, unitl I left the company. Never had any contact to 1100's afterward. Sometimes I miss the "@ASG,T" and all other demand-mode commands and the assembly language ... EXEC was (is?) a real good OS. - Henk. > -----Original Message----- > From: Chad Fernandez [mailto:fernande@internet1.net] > Sent: woensdag 15 januari 2003 6:24 > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: PDP-12 on eBay > > > Gooijen H wrote: > > Later, somewhere around 1989, they introduced the 2200, the smaller > > version of the 1100, but runs the same instruction set. > > I vagely remember that the 2200 line was called the "A-series", as > > there was also a "B-series" as a result of the merger of SPERRY and > > BURROUGHS to the new UNISYS. > > But, I am not sure. I left that company (and fine 1100) in 1990 ... > > > > - Henk. > > I'm not sure 100% sure either, but I recall differently (but > only from > reading). The 2200 was the Sperry's mainframe contribution > to Unisys. > The A-Series was from the Burroughs side. > > I don't remember hearing about any "B-Series". Do you mean > the systems > that ran Btos..... I think that's what it was called. I don't think > they were mainframe class, but I'm not sure on that either :-) > > Chad Fernandez > Michigan, USA > >

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Richard Crandall just cancelled a payment to you

by alanp＠snowmoose.com

I think someone gave PayPal the wrong e-mail address for payment. alan Bruce Lane wrote: What the...? *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 14-Jan-03 at 21:40 rick(a)jelcoventures.com wrote: >Richard Crandall cancelled the following payment to you: > >Amount: $29.95 Why do I get the feeling this should have been in private E-mail? Whodaheck is Richard Crandall, anyway? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)

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Collectible Microcomputers

by 3sdiarftt02＠sneakemail.com

ROTFLMA > rick-at-jelcoventures.com |CC| <aj85h8qq6k0t(a)sneakemail.com> wrote: > > You've got cash! > > Richard Crandall just sent you money with PayPal.

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PDP-12 on eBay

by GOOI＠oce.nl

> -----Original Message----- > From: Chad Fernandez [mailto:fernande@internet1.net] > Sent: dinsdag 14 januari 2003 7:53 > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: PDP-12 on eBay > > Look where Unisys is today :-( They mostly sell intel based > stuff. I know a few years ago they still marketed some > A Series machines, but I think it existed as a carry over > from an earlier time. I worked with SPERRY and later UNISYS 1100 machines. Big main frames. They have a 36-bit architecture and the nice part of if is that you can always read the octal dump, because a 36-bit word was always the complete instruction. With "multi-byte" instructions in a dump it is a bit more difficult to find the start of an instruction. SPERRY had a character set called FIELDATA. It is 6-bit (uppercase only), so you fit put 6 characters in one (36-bit) word. Later, somewhere around 1989, they introduced the 2200, the smaller version of the 1100, but runs the same instruction set. I vagely remember that the 2200 line was called the "A-series", as there was also a "B-series" as a result of the merger of SPERRY and BURROUGHS to the new UNISYS. But, I am not sure. I left that company (and fine 1100) in 1990 ... - Henk.

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M100 Keys Sought

by 3sdiarftt02＠sneakemail.com

I'm guessing the original poster is referring to a fairly modern Palm PDA. If so, I'd recommend leaving in the custom keys. There are only four main buttons plus up/down and they can be reassigned using software so the icons are, on the whole, unimportant. Chris J. > In this context, what is an M100. In my company, the designation > refers to > a Radiant branded touch-screen cash register with a NetPC (smal box, > baby-ATX form factor) driven by WINNT 3.51. I'm sure tis isn't the > same... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > I have a mint condition M100 that I would like to sell. > > One problem: the original keys were replaced with custom screened > keys for > > an OEM application. > > Does anyone know where I can get replacement keys?

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VAXStation 4000/60 (claimed)

by rick＠netadel.com

Someone has claimed this.. thanks for all that were interested - it's nice to know that stuff I get emotionally attached to (ie: anything I touch), can go to a good home :) ---------------------------------------------- PLEASE NOTE: This e-mail server will be in the process of transitioning >from one IP address to another on 01/25/2003. If you experience un- deliverable email, bounced email, or other stangenesses, it is probably due to the move. Please try back in a couple of days if your mail to me gets messed up. ---------------------------------------------------

23 years, 3 months

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Xenix OS for early generation IBM PC

by collison＠cnri.reston.va.us

Title on unopened box: "IBM Personal Computer XENIX Software Development System" - its on 51/4 floppies. Includes the Xenix Operating System and documentation, etc. This a new package, e.g. still shrink wrapped. Min. config. requirements on PC is 512K Ram & 20Mb HD Anyone interested?

23 years, 3 months

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A Few New Finds Today

by cb＠mythtech.net

>1. Black Macintosh TV no mouse, KB, or remote with it. Will test it on >Wednesday. If you happen to ever come across any of the mouse, kb, remotes... I could use a set. I have a Mac TV (finally... thanks John!!!), but it lacks its extras as well (and currently is supposed to be DOA, but I hope to finally have a look at it this weekend). I only run this by you because you seem to have the magical ability to find the most awesome stuff at little to no cost... where DO you do you hunting?!? Oh, and FYI: the MacTV will work with a universal remote. Sony TV code. At least that is true with my PowerMac, which came with a remote that is also compatible with the MacTV, so I draw the conclusion that the MacTV should also be compatible with a universal remote, sony code set. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

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M100 Keys Sought

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

It'd be real nice if he'd specify... eh? Cheers... Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "No Junk > Mail" <3sdiarftt02(a)sneakemail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:34 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: RE: M100 Keys Sought > > > I'm guessing the original poster is referring to a fairly modern Palm PDA. > > If so, I'd recommend leaving in the custom keys. There are only four main > buttons plus up/down and they can be reassigned using software so the > icons are, on the whole, unimportant. > > Chris J. > > > In this context, what is an M100. In my company, the designation > > refers to > > a Radiant branded touch-screen cash register with a NetPC (smal box, > > baby-ATX form factor) driven by WINNT 3.51. I'm sure tis isn't the > > same... > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > I have a mint condition M100 that I would like to sell. > > > One problem: the original keys were replaced with custom screened > > keys for > > > an OEM application. > > > Does anyone know where I can get replacement keys?

23 years, 3 months

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M100 Keys Sought

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

In this context, what is an M100. In my company, the designation refers to a Radiant branded touch-screen cash register with a NetPC (smal box, baby-ATX form factor) driven by WINNT 3.51. I'm sure tis isn't the same... Cheers! Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of ED CHIODO > <Ed_Chiodo(a)compuserve.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:47 PM > To: CCTALK > Subject: M100 Keys Sought > > I have a mint condition M100 that I would like to sell. > One problem: the original keys were replaced with custom screened keys for > an OEM application. > Does anyone know where I can get replacement keys? > > Thanks, > Ed

23 years, 3 months

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Help with pricing on vintage computers?

by mikeford＠socal.rr.com

I love this logic, the price on ebay a place where all the traditional requirements of willing buyer, willing seller, and open market are met, isn't valid because its too high. No the acceptable price is the price you once saw in a scrapyard after years of digging through the place 3 times a week and have never seen since.

23 years, 3 months

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Dos V3.2, V3.10, & V2.0 - who was looking for this?

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

Hi Ron! INTEREST!!! INTEREST!!! INTEREST!!! INTEREST!!! I'm the guy looking for eraly copies of DOS -- anything in the 3.xx range. I'm most interested in the texts, but definitely wouldn't turn down the OS software if it came along! Prefer 3.5 floppy, but can load-on a 5.25 reader to my system if neded. I'm reachable off-list at wrathbone(a)hotmail.com or ICQ 10460417. INTEREST!!! INTEREST!!! INTEREST!!! INTEREST!!! Cheers! Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of Ron > Collison <collison(a)cnri.reston.va.us> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:35 AM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Dos V3.2, V3.10, & V2.0 - who was looking for this? > > I found several versions of DOS in my collectibles, incl.: > DOS V3.10 on 51/4 floppies with ref manual, user's guide, & applic setup > guide > DOS V2.0 on 51/4 floppies with ref manual > DOS V3.2 users guide [may have the OS on floppies, but would need to > determine interest prior to searching] > Anyway, there was some traffic a few days ago from someone looking for an > early version of DOS on floppies, 51/4 I think > So, anyone out there interested? >

23 years, 3 months

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A Few New Finds Today

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

At auction I picked up the following: 1. Black Macintosh TV no mouse, KB, or remote with it. Will test it on Wednesday. 2. Box of 82+ video cards. 3. Box of New capacitors (100's). 4. Many more items but too new to list in detail. At thrifts: 1. TI external disk controller model PHP1800C 2. 3-CompacTape TK50 cartridges from digital. The labels on them read: Vax RDB/VMS 4.1A STAND TK; RDB 5.1A STANDARD TK50; and Vax RDB/VMS 4.1A MULTI TK5. Each was $1

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Hackers Guide to the APPLE II

by cmurray＠eagle.ca

Hi all Does anyone know where I can get the Hackers Guide to the Apple II. I know the controversy surrounding the subject but this Guide was mostly directed to the hardware-side of the Apple and permitted one to program it to control gadgets around the house. Many thanks. Murray--

23 years, 3 months

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Help with pricing on vintage computers?

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

The "model" (whatever it is) might be correct for market situations where the buyer and seller can negotiate a price, but I doubt that it was designed to cover situations like auctions, especially eBay auctions. My last $0.02 on this subject. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 3:31 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Help with pricing on vintage computers? <snip> The science, and the model, is correct. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 3 months

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AERCO RAM Upgrade for Atari-ST

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

One of my beloved Classic Computers is an Atari-ST. It's only a 520-ST (512k RAM), so in the heyday... I bought a RAM upgrade to bring it up to 2.5mb of RAM, with the possibility of 4mb... I've lost the manual, and also... The upgrade no longer works at all... Does anyone have the manual for one of these they can send me, or point me to someone who will sell me a RAM upgrade for this unit? I still have instructions to solder chips to get it to 1mb, but I'd prefer to max it out if I can. Also, I'm looking for a SCSI adapter for it, as I have several SCSI drives from 80mb to 1.2gb. I'd like to put one on here to make it more useful. I won a Spectre 128 GCR adapter on eBay a few months ago, so a 4mb (or so) Mac Plus, would be a useful machine to use for Wordprocessing... Or just for play. I'm going to TCF this year and hoping to spot a Color Display for this unit so I can play some of the old games in Color. I have a composite cable that runs to my Amiga Monitor, but the display isn't all that crisp. I have some Tandy Color Computer Stuff for trade (Editor/Assembler for Coco III, Serial to Parallel Adapter, Disk System & Controller, RS-232 Adapter, more...), and possibly some other interesting things, including cash... Regards, Al __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

23 years, 3 months

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OT: paging MAC expert(s) --- What's a Performa

by cb＠mythtech.net

> I have an old macintosh portable I bought in 1995. I have no idea what >it is worth but I love it. I am also not very computer literate. I also >own a macintosh preforma 6360. I now own an imac. Maryann DeMatthews Well, I'm not sure what you are getting at with your email, but the question posed in the subject line was "what's a Performa"... and the simple answer is... a Mac that Apple produced during a time when they thought that different names would increase sales. Performa's were the same Mac's as the LCs, and some Quadra's and PowerMac's. Apple was under the misguided notion that if you complicate the product line by releasing the same computer under 3 different names, you could convince different market segments to buy their version of the computer at their price. LC's were marketed to education and sold at one price, with one software bundle Performa's were marketed to the home user, sold at a different price, and with a different software bundle and Quadra's and PowerMac's were marketed to businesses, at an even more inflated price and with almost no software bundled. Of course, I am SOOO glad that Apple decided to go to the opposite extreme with their product lines, and name everything, no matter how radically different, the exact same thing. Makes it so wonderful to try and figure out what model someone is using over the phone -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

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PDP-12 on eBay

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

>On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, John Honniball wrote: > There's one in the Science Museum (London) collection. It appeared in > Tim Hunkin's "Secret Life of Machines" TV series a few years ago. I missed the context of this, but that grabbed my attention. Is it actually *at* the Science Museum - or out at Wroughton? I only recently found out that all the large stuff is kept off-site there and can be visited by prior arrangement; I must go for a wander around sometime... cheers Jules __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

23 years, 3 months

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International shipping

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I sell all over the world and have no troubles with it, many times the cost of shipping is more than the cost. I almost always use the US Postal System for overseas shipment. They have reliable systems and treat packages much better than UPS. Global Priority mail for items under a kilo is very easy and the USPS will even provide envelopes and boxes for small stuff. The Post Office also has a software program that will allow you to calculate shipping anywhere in the world besides the US. It is the USPS Postal Assistant and you can get it on CD or download it from the USPS. Since the rate charts need regular updating it is easier to use the download. There are interesting differences over the world. For instance Global priority will not work to Italy, only regular air post. These are easy to figure out with the USPS software. The USPS is also very competitive on shipping to other countries. When I do estimates of cost, the USPS always wins over sending by UPS, Airborne or Federal Express. FedEx often comes in second by the way. USPS works internationally, quite well. Paxton Astoria, OR

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Dec 3000/300 keyboard/mouse box

by steven_nikkel＠ertyu.org

I recovered a couple Dec 3000/300 machines at work, with keyboards and mice and can't find any of the keyboard/mice break out boxes. What do they look like? Or where can I find them inexpensively? -- Steven Nikkel

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Further Ebay Madness: On topic

by jpl15＠panix.com

One of the Tandy 486 machines from the Treasury Sale of the old Mustang Ranch brothel in Nevada... data intact!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=179&item=2084442322 Asking $895.00 - auction ended - nobody bid. 10 OPEN REG #mind(brain)((skull)) 20 SET (@boggle = TRUE) 30 CLOSE ((skull))(brain) 40 PONDER {world_is_getting_wierd} Cheerz John

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Let Programmers Worldwide Bid On Your Tech Projects

by mediaking8＠libero.it

Can you imagine being able to post any kind of computer project and have a variety of programmers from this country as well as all over the world bid on it? It is the power of outsourcing merged with the power of auction bidding, and may the best man win. Our programming team can handle anything you have in mind: C++, Oracle, Java, ASP, Visual Basic, Web design, business applications, security and cryptography, database apps, and anything else you want to post. They work on all operating system platforms: .NET, Windows CE, Palm, as well as platforms you never heard of. And it costs you nothing up front to post a job. Just pay a very small commission if and when you find a programmer that meets your needs. Are you a talented programmer or do you run a programming operation? Want more work? If you can answer "Yes", then we're just what you're looking for. For more info: http://www.project-outsource.net.dj@ns.todnkewgrpy.ph/search.php?id=oucomnw ----------------------------------------------------------------- You received this mail because this is a Join Up List. If you feel you received is in error, click here http://www.project-outsource.net.dj@ns.todnkewgrpy.ph/search.php?id=oucomnr and we will courteously take you off our rosters. search words: suspensory warday angloman textman hypinosis chromophilous

23 years, 3 months

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Fw: KIM audio files

by edsa＠alphalink.com.au

Hi. Do you own the KIM-1 Repository website? I tried sending to the following email addr given on the page but it bounced... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed" <edsa(a)alphalink.com.au> To: <dogbert(a)mindless.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 2:37 PM Subject: KIM audio files > Hi, > > I've "just stumbled over The KIM-1 repository" :) > > I don't have a KIM-1 myself though I've had an interest in things > 6502 having once owned a UK101, C64 etc. > > I was particularly interested in your sampled KIM programs. > > I've also been experimenting with the computer programs stored > on audio cassette. My webpage has an encoder/decoder for Kansas > City Standard formatted tapes. www.alphalink.com.au/~edsa > > I noticed your WAV files are 16 bit mono, 11025 samples/sec. > I've found that using a resolution of 8-bits is more than adequate > for this type of task. Using 8 bit would cut your filesize by half! > > While researching the Kansas City Standard tape format, I read a > comment suggesting this was also used by KIM. However some > digging indicated this was not so. > > Since completing the KCS program, I felt the techniques used > could be adapted for just about any format including KIM. > However I wasn't sure how much demand there might be for a > KIM version. If you or other KIM users would be interest in > such a program, let me know. > > regards, > Ed > >

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Clinton Macintosh Repair & Maintenance Manual

by morgan＠cleptoscastle.com

I would be very interested in any Macintosh literature anyone may have that they do not need. Thank you. Morgan

23 years, 3 months

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Was there a DEC LINC-5 (not -8)?

by classiccmp＠crash.com

Sellam wrote: . >> strongly remember being labeled as a LINC-5, definitely DEC, a large . > Are you sure it wasn't a PDP-5? It definitely said LINC - the questionable part is that I think it said '-5', but I've never heard of a LINC-5 since then. I would've remembered if it said PDP-5. I'm beginning to think I must have gotten the number wrong somehow... In which case, it was still a pretty uncommon beast to come across, even though I didn't really get to know it. Can anyone say how tall a LINC-8 stood? Perhaps the countertop we had under the console was a post-sale addition. This comes partly >from staring at the picture of a LINC-8 here: http://ed-thelen.org/comp-hist/vs-dec-linc-8.jpg Thanks, all. --Steve.

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DOS 1.0

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

The "this page left blank" was a borrow from military 'technical orders.' Though quite stodgy about their regs t times, they mostly new that improvements and innovations would soon render a fixed document obsolete. So, they kept them in binders, replaced outdated pages with updated ones, and kept the "blank" pages as place holders (0's, if you like) for expansion beyond the then current document/section/segment length. Clear as mud? Cheers! Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "Live Wire" > <livewire(a)netadel.com> > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 10:58 PM > To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: DOS 1.0 > > > infamous "This page intentionally left blank" page. What's up with > that?? > > I have a stack of these pages ;) > > > I do also memember Wordstar and it's arcane command sequences. Those > > commands persisted though, through a number of ordinary text editors for > > programmers & such. > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/joe-editor/ > > This is as close to wordstar and the WS CTRL-K-x command set I have found. > I used to use wordstar on a tiny portable computer with a 4 line display > to > write asm for the amiga 500 and then dump it via the built in modem. > Joe is my favorite editor today, though I find myself living in vi for the > most part... >

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[MichaelDumas1@aol.com: VAX 4000-700 computer Center]

by classiccmp＠crash.com

This computer center is also listed on eBay, FYI: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1479&item=2300985733 --S.

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Help with pricing on vintage computers?

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

One could always do a mean and standard deviation on a group of eBay prices and get a reasonable measure of what a typical price might be. Still, you cannot deny that the extreme prices are actual prices that somebody paid. Just don't expect to get that much every time (or even ever again). Bob -----Original Message----- From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 2:30 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Help with pricing on vintage computers? <snip> There are, and have been, for decades, valid mathematical and actuarial methods for determining the value of a given object based on several criteria, including of course supply and demand. Why should ending prices of eBay auctions all of a sudden supercede that science? <snip>

23 years, 3 months

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Wicat 150

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Hi, I just checked the Wicat that I picked up recently. It powers up and gives a flashing block cursor on the screen but no other screen display. Is that normal? The hard drive spins up and recalibrates after about ten seconds but it's not being accessed otherwise. Any sugggestions? This one came from the Navel Training systems Center in Orlando Florida and it's very clean inside and has a full set of cards including what I think is a 2nd (optional) memory card. There's also a CMI 5619 hard drive in it. Joe

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Wicat computer?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I saw the recent discussions about these on this list but didn't read them since I'd never seen a Wicat computer and didn't know what one was. Well, today that changed. Can someone give me the run down on a wicat S-150A? Joe

23 years, 3 months

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[MichaelDumas1@aol.com: VAX 4000-700 computer Center]

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Located in Memphis, TN - please contact him directly if interested. Bill ----- Forwarded message from MichaelDumas1(a)aol.com ----- From: MichaelDumas1(a)aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 11:16:00 EST Subject: VAX 4000-700 computer Center To: mrbill(a)decvax.org I have a complete computer center for sale and liquidation. The server is a Vax 4000/600 which I believe was upgraded to a 700 SCSI Card 128MB Winchester Flash Cluster 32 GB of storage Decserver 700 24 VT420 Terminals 2 Rack Cabinets (smoked glass) 1 UDS Modem Rack w/ 14 Modems and 2 Power supplies 2 remote WAN Muxes Datability VCP 1000 Xerox 9-track 6250 tape drive 2 DAT Units 1 600LPM Printer 4 Monarch Computer Center Cabinets (pull down steel doors) 4 metal tape stands lots of VAX manuals, parts and accessories Need to sell, deinstall, or give away. Any ideas? Michael Dumas (901)737-7009 ----- End forwarded message ----- -- bill bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net austin, texas

23 years, 3 months

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Help with pricing on EPay

by cb＠mythtech.net

> One of my main beefs are the number of sellers in the US >who restrict the volume of bids by refusing to ship to >anywhere outside own their limited vision of the world. >Either thru fear of unknown extra efforts, (which for the >most part are minimal) or even ignoring the "will ship to" >section. I routinely respond to something I'm interested >in with "will you not ship to Canada" and the answer is >almost invariably yes. They simply did the default form. You'll be happy to know, that I check that I will ship to Canada. I've only done a few auctions, but those that I have done, I always say yes to Canada. Not to other places, but that is going to change... I have been limiting my ship to range only because I am new at auctions and want to get a feel for it before I have to start deailing with international shipping. But I've sent enough items to Canada in the past, that I'm comfortable with what's involved with it. > The problems with the commercial shippers like UPS is a >different number, and while it may work well in-country is >a disaster outside. This is my major problem with shipping outside the US (minus canada). I have heard horror stories about UPS and FedEx going to other countries. So when I am counting on using FedEx for delivery, I worry about what is going to be involved with getting the package to the person if they aren't in North America. So my line of thought has been... let me get the auction concept under my belt... then I'll work on the international shipping issues. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

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Y2K/Y10K for V5.03 of RT-11

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

I'm interested in what you propose, but suspect that Y10K would be overkill at this point. I'd like to see design discussion opened up for that... but it may all be moot since it wouldn't be compatible with V5.4, V5.5, V5.6, V5.7... ... and it is the sort of change which would truly affect everything in the system, requiring sources to rebuild the fixes... since no-one but Mentec has rights to the sources, the product of any such change would be strictly illegal, so I am wondering how you are proposing to get around that. Megan

23 years, 3 months

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[for sale] IBM 5100 + IBM 5120

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

> Is it possible to just put the unzipped files on your web server? I don't > like to download zips. Oh, I do. It goes really well with all the HTML markup that turns up here :-) cheers Jules __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

23 years, 3 months

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Dec 3000/300 keyboard/mouse box

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

On Mon, 13 Jan 2003; Steven Nikkel <steven_nikkel(a)ertyu.org> scribbled: > I recovered a couple Dec 3000/300 machines at work, with keyboards > and mice and can't find any of the keyboard/mice break out boxes. > What do they look like? Or where can I find them inexpensively? First of all, a RANT: Why is it that when a company takes a machine out of service, the first thing they do is toss the cables. Over the years I have scrounged a few DECstations only to find that the video cables were nowhere to be found. I also managed to haul home several VXT2000 workstations but only one video cable amongst all of them. $&^%**&%% Anyway. It is not so much a breakout box as it is a (rather long) cable with a molded box on the end of it. The box contains the sockets for the keyboard and mouse. I put together some info a while back and I will just paste it to the end of this. Hope it helps, Mike Thompson P.S. I have to wonder, now that you know what you are looking for, if it might not be worth another search around work. DECstation 5000 keyboard/mouse cable and related info --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- The DECstation 5000 has a 15 pin (male) D connector on the back for keyboard and mouse connections. There is a cable that plugs into the 5000 connector and has a keyboard socket (RJ-11) and a mouse socket (7 pin mini-din) on the other end. The part number for the cable is 17-02640-01. A reader of a previous version of this has confirmed from the manual EK-PELCN-OG for the Dec 3000/300L AXP that the same cable is used on that series of machines. He also confirmed the following pinout information. For a keyboard, use a LK201, LK401, or LK402. For a mouse, use a VSXXX-AA (round hockey puck) or VSXXX-GA (rectangular). CABLE INFO The cable pinout (from the DECstation 5000/240 manual) is: Pin Signal Desc. 1 GND Ground (to keyboard socket) 2 KEY.TX Keyboard transmitted data 3 KEY.RX Keyboard received data 4 +12v Keyboard power 5 GND Ground 6 MSE.RX Mouse received data 7 MSE.TX Mouse transmitted data 8 GND Ground (to mouse socket) 9 GND Ground (to mouse socket) 10 NC 11 NC 12 NC 13 +5v Mouse power 14 -12v Mouse power 15 GND Ground (to mouse socket) I have also verified the above info with a VOM. KEYBOARD INFO As for the keyboard, I had a couple of them open a while back (to clean out the cookie crumbs) and traced them out somewhat. Looking into the end of the plug on the cable coming from the keyboard. |------------| | o o o o | | B R G Y | |___| |___| |____| B - Black - Data from keyboard R - Red - +12v to keyboard G - Green - Ground Y - Yellow - Data to keyboard And looking into the socket on the end of the 17-02640-01 cable: (also applies to the keyboard socket on a terminal such as a VT420) |------------| | o o o o | | Y G R B | |___| |___| |____| Pin Y to pin 3 of the 15 pin D connector on cable 17-02640-01 G to pin 1 ... R to pin 4 ... B to pin 2 ... I do not include pin numbers for the keyboard connector because I have found on-line references to some of this info and in some cases the pin numbers differ. Your mileage may vary. MOUSE INFO As for the mouse, you will find the pinouts below and the signals. Please note that the pin numbers may not be the official DEC numbers. Here again, I have seen on-line references to some of this info and the pin numbers differ. Looking into the plug coming from the mouse: 5 6 7 o o o 4 o === o 1 o o 3 2 1 - -12v 2 - Data to mouse 3 - Ground 4 - Data from mouse 5 - +5v 6 - nc 7 - nc And looking at the socket on a machine or end of the 17-02640-01 cable: 7 6 5 o o o 1 o === o 4 o o 2 3 Pin 1 to pin 14 of the 15 pin D connector on cable 17-02640-01 2 to pin 6 ... 3 to pins 8, 9, & 15 ... 4 to pin 7 ... 5 to pin 13 ... 6 nc 7 nc

23 years, 3 months

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Xenix OS for early generation IBM PC

by cpg＠aladdin.de

On 01/14/2003 08:41:05 AM EST Ron Collison wrote: > >Anyone interested? I'm interested. regards, chris

23 years, 3 months

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Macro Assembler for early generation PC

by collison＠cnri.reston.va.us

I found the tech ref manual in my collectibles, but will have to look for the software if anyone is interested?

23 years, 3 months

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