- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by ceby2＠csc.com

Bill - The tape drives are Reel 2 Reel (of course) I've been thinking of keeping one of those for show, but if I get a taker for the system I'll have to leave that up to them. As to the 5363... are you sure you're not confusing that with the 5364. That really was a PC sized machine, and one I'm definitely after. It came bundled with an IBM PC (model 5560 I think) which acted as the console. The 5363 is nearly the size of the 5362. It looks like a first generation AS/400. They both use the 5 1/4" disks. As to keeping the 5360, well you're right about the 8" media being more common. But then, the 5362 takes the same media, and is about 1/10 the size. In fact it's just as powerful processor wise. The difference is a smaller card cage and smaller disk capacity. The 5360 I have has at least 4 of those 19" platter disks. The 5362 take up to 2 of the 14" variety. I have just the one in the 5362. And no-one's prying the '62 from my cold dead fingers. The biggest challenge I have with that is modifying the power supply when, as is the plan, I move over to the UK. It's wired for 110v only. The 5360 is strickly 220, and it may even be three phase. I don't honestly recall. On to the PC file copy utility: I'm afraid it's one of the feature sets I don't have media for. I do have an emulator card set up. Just to make it interesting, I'm using a MCA version plugged into an IBM PS/2 Model 70 Luggable running OS/2 (just wanted to tick off as many obscure IBM technology boxes as possible). No problem with the workstation connectivity (so long as the couplers joining the 4 pieces of phone cord from the study to the living room don't pull loose, he he). But without the feature set on the host, there's no copying capability. There's media going, but it's fetching a really good price (see my note about the e-Pay auction). -Colin ceby2(a)csc.com Senior Consultant National Performance Engineeering Practice CSC Consulting

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Miniscribe 3650

by echafe＠roadrunner.nf.net

Hi I need a Miniscribe 3650 hard drive or the logic board for one any suggestions would be appreciated Eric

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Removing duct tape residue.

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

I've cleaned up permanent magic marker off white and beige plastic computer components with virtually 100% success with the following methods. Obviously first make sure the item is turned off / unplugged / cooled off / discharged / etc. I use 100% concentration denatured ethyl alcohol to remove as much of the marker markings as possible. It will take a lot off and leave the markings much fainter. Then I wet another paper towel with the alcohol and sprinkle ajax or comet cleanser on it and then scrub till it's off. This scrubbing mixture scrubs off tape's adhesive residue very well also. I use pure white cloth like paper towels, not printed, so the ink of printed paper towel's printing doesn't end up back on the item. If it's something that can be disassembled so that the plastic part can be put in a deep sink ( or bathtub ) , I do that with a dishwashing scrub brush first covered with straight dishwashing detergent and then heavily sprinkled with ajax or comet. It makes a thick paste at first and stays in place as you scrub. To get marker off painted metal, I use acetone. Use in well ventilated area ( outside? ) with no source of ignition anywhere near. It will take a little of the paint layer off, so don't rub in one spot too long. It may be changing the texture, but to me that's better than the marker markings. You might not want to do this to valuable "collectibles", but it was ok for what I was cleaning. At 05:06 AM 1/29/03 -0600, you wrote: >On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Jim Arnott wrote: > > > For cleaning computer plastics, the absolute best product I've found (in > > the US) is Hoppe's No. 9 Powder Solvent. Found at your local sporting > > goods store. Even removes PERMANENT Sharpie. > >Has anyone tried removing Sharpie from a chassis with textured paint? I >have a couple of items that were marked up with a Sharpie, and short of >paint thinner (which seems to dilute and bury the ink in the paint while >damaging the texture), I've found nothing that seems to work. > >-Toth

23 years, 2 months

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ADMIN: Demime is now active

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 22:32, Jeffrey Sharp wrote: > By popular demand, Jay and I have set up demime on the ClassicCmp server, > and all posts are being filtered through it. From here on out, all posts you > get from CC will be in plain text, with no attachments or HTML. Thank you! That's a great idea. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 2 months

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Looking for DEC parts

by antikgmbh＠compuserve.com

Hello, I found your e-mail address after searching for the DEC part# 21-15542-01 on the "googles" platform. We are a German independent distributor and looking for several DEC parts for our customer. May you can help ??? These are the parts we are looking for: 5 pcs. DEC 21-17311-01 or 21-17311-02 2 pcs. DEC 21-17312-00 or 21-17312-01 2 pcs. DEC 57-00001-01 2 pcs. DEC 57-00000-01 2 pcs. DEC 21-15542-01 Any luck for us ?? Thank you for a short notice. Best regards Erika Antik Elektronik-Vertriebs-GmbH Tel: +49 4191 89441 Fax: +49 4191 89337

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sys 36 software

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

interesting list System Support Programs> got it Utilities RPG II > got it Cobol Mcode > got it Display Write 36 Display Write Language Dictionary Business Graphics Utility Personal Services 36 Query 36 PC Support 36 > got it Additional SSP> NEED IT Base Communications> got it 3270 Device Emulation> got it MSRJE> got it - what is it? Display Station Pass-Through> got it Tape Support> got it PTF's> heave a few of those wow nice list but no basic or diags - wierd - daigs came with every system - unless some paranoid sysop destroyed them when parting with the system. diags are NOT covered in the license agreement - they are part of the machine! btw - on a 5360 there is a plate covering a storage area above the circuit breaker on the rear right of the machine - undo four screws and see if the ibm ce left the diag diskettes in there ;) Bill Message: 35 Subject: Re: ibm sys/36 5360 basic needed From: "Colin Eby" <ceby2(a)csc.com> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:34:47 -0500 Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Bill -- FYI, some 8" floppy based software just turned up on ePay. Item 2304666096. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2304666096&ssPageName=AD… They've got pretty much everything except what you were after. I've been bidding on it myself. In fact I've gone as far as a hundred bucks. If I'm bidding against anyone on the list maybe we can come to some co-purchase agreement before my media lust gets the better of my fiduciary responsibility. I already have quite a lot of it. System Support Programs Utilities RPG II Cobol Mcode Display Write 36 Display Write Language Dictionary Business Graphics Utility Personal Services 36 Query 36 PC Support 36 Additional SSP Base Communications 3270 Device Emulation MSRJE Display Station Pass-Through Tape Support PTF's - Colin Eby

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FW: Are you interested in an old computer?

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Hi folks, Old Amstrad available for quite possibly nothing apart from shipping. Looks like it's the PC1512DD model since it doesn't have a hard drive. I haven't asked him if he'd consider shipping to the US, but if he's going to pack it up anyway the destination doesn't really matter :) Please contact the seller directly. witchy -----Original Message----- From: David Errock [mailto:david@errock.co.uk] Sent: 26 January 2003 20:41 To: witchy(a)binarydinosaurs.co.uk Subject: Are you interested in an old computer? Adrian, I have an Amstrad PC1512 computer (complete with original manual and Amstrad system disks in original plastic pack) with mono screen and two 5" floppy disk drives (the disk drives are not identical, even though they were both "factory fitted") in a clean condition. It still works. I do have the cardboard boxes, but no polystyrene, and the cardboard is not in a good state! Are you interested in this? It seems a shame to throw it in the bin even though it is useless. Regards, David Errock david(a)errock.co.uk

23 years, 2 months

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Seeking manual for the Jupiter 4000

by kurtk7＠visi.com

I hate to belabor the request, but I really need a manual to the Jupiter 4000. Does anyone have any suggestions, I would really appreciate any help in locating a copy. Thanks Kurt

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XT-IDE drive lot spotted on eBay

by red＠bears.org

Normally I don't do this, but it's in a strange category and I know some folks here have been looking hard for these type of drives in the past. 12 Seagate RARE Hard Drives ST-325X 25MB NEW http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2304712236&category=11209 Ends 3 Feb 10:18a PST Good luck! ok r.

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IBM Power Server 590 components available

by anheier＠owt.com

I have the following from an IBM Power server 590 available for trade. IBM DAT (or some sort of tape drive) SCSI model EXB-8200 IBM 4x cdrom drive p/n 88G4917 SCSI MCA (I think) cards IBM SCSI2 port card FRU11H3600 IBM FDDI extender p/n 31g9395 3Com ethernet bus master adapter p/n oog3368 IBM SCSI I/O controller FRU 31g9729 IBM FDDI Main, p/n 31g9393 Thanks Norm

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PDP 11/23 Blueprints available

by anheier＠owt.com

I have a DEC PDP 11/23 Field Maintenance Print set (series FPF11-0) for a 11/23 floating point processor dated 1980-81., This is printed on approximately 60 11*17" pages. This would be very useful for someone trying to maintain a PDP 11/23. I am interested in trading for old CPU processor chips that I am collecting. Thanks Norm

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WANTED: VAX 11/750 Front/Side Panels

by jwillis＠manson.vistech.net

Wanted: VAX 11/750 chassis panels: * Front door * Outer left side panel * Back door * Back I/O cover panel Hoping to get these from an otherwise gutted or non-functional system. They will soon be all that remains to complete my 11/750. Thanks, John W. The VAXpirate

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non-profit

by dante_toza＠yahoo.com

I saw your comment and question. i have done quite a bit of research. i'd thought this might be helpful to you. http://members.aol.com/irsform1023/misc/comp501s.html --------------------------------- With Yahoo! Mail you can get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs

23 years, 2 months

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Neat find: Maxx Steele Robot

by keeblernsam＠zippytech.com

hello i was checking out your page and comments on you buying a maxx a few years ago ,just to let you know im a collecter and was wandering do you still have your maxx steele email me we will talk thanks. GUY keeblernsam(a)zippytech.com

23 years, 2 months

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GRiDCase 3 Battery Question.

by netsurfer_x1＠fastmailbox.net

Does anybody know the part or catalog no. for a battery for a GRiDCase 3 Laptop battery? I just this week got one of these old gems, & would just love to use it on the road. By the way, anybody know where I can find a GRiD-OS ROM for this thing? -- David Vohs netsurfer_x1(a)fastmailbox.net -- http://fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own

23 years, 2 months

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Wanted, book: "Practical Microprocessors"

by ssj152＠charter.net

I'm looking for a book for my HP 5036A microprocessor lab, "Practical Microprocessors" textbook (H.P. part no. 05036-90003). If anyone has a source for one of these, please contact me off list. I already have a source for one for $100 US and can't afford it... Thanks, Stuart Johnson

23 years, 2 months

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FA:HP-9805, Programmer's Panel, Teletype manuals & tool

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

FYI: I just threw some stuff on E-bay including a HP 9805 Statistics calculator, two volumes of model 33 Teletype manuals, a Teletype tool, a programmer's panel and an Apple computer Module ID book. The auctions are for 5 days only so don't delay. I will be adding more tomorrow. Joe

23 years, 2 months

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cctalk digest, Vol 1 #417 - 31 msgs

by sml49＠attbi.com

> Message: 22 > Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 14:29:24 +0000 (GMT) > From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jules=20Richardson?= > <julesrichardsonuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> > Subject: slightly newer Apple stuff... > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > hi all, > > I've just found someone local who's dumping a few Apple bits and pieces - a > Macintosh 2, LC3 and a Performa 400, plus a couple of monitors and > stylewriters. I said yes to them as I just fancy playing around with a bit of > Apple stuff. They all work apparently but I don't know what cables etc. they > have with them. > > Can anyone tell me anything about them or point me to any good Apple websites > that will? Not sure if they make the ten year mark or not (pretty certain at > least the performa won't!) so sorry for the bandwidth... THE source on the web for the lowdown on any of these old Macs is <<lowendmac.com>> The Mac II (2) is a 16 mhz machine with a Motorola 68020 processor and was the first color-capable Mac. The LCIII (3) runs a 16 or 25 mhz 68LC040 (no FPU as part of the CPU); I don't recall what the Performa 400 contains. The difference between the Performa and "standard" versions of some of these older machines has more to do with how they were sold and what software was bundled (sometimes a slightly different version of the OS, too) but otherwise not much. All have internal SCSI drives. The Mac II has a port for a second (external) floppy. These machines can run up to MacOS 7.6.1 but are quicker and more at home with 7.5.3 or even 6.0.8, which is quite speedy on even machines as slow as these. Do you plan to display them, actually use 'em or what? I have a slew of parts and old drives and whatnot for these machines - the drive's usually what goes on them. By the way: check the motherboard battery to make sure it's live (3.6v lithium). They'll boot w/o a live battery but will lose their time and certain other settings. Seth Lewin

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Back in the game

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

After a *very* brief unemployment, I started at a new job today - as an OpenVMS Administrator, if you can believe it. One of the more surprising moments during the interview process was when I was mentioning that I had a VAX 8200 and a DEC 4000 in my basement, and the boss said, "of course you do - all you VMS guys run that stuff at home." I've gotten lots of milage from running older/smaller version of Sun/DEC/etc boxes, but I'd never run across someone in an interview who *expected* it. Now back to the side of the table with money, but no time... -ethan

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'386 chip upgrade?

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Upgrade for IBM P70 luggable? Actually why not use a P75 which is the 486 model of the P70, I have a couple of both. One is missing the keyboard and the back but the SCSI disk and internals are there. Mike

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slightly newer Apple stuff...

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

hi all, I've just found someone local who's dumping a few Apple bits and pieces - a Macintosh 2, LC3 and a Performa 400, plus a couple of monitors and stylewriters. I said yes to them as I just fancy playing around with a bit of Apple stuff. They all work apparently but I don't know what cables etc. they have with them. Can anyone tell me anything about them or point me to any good Apple websites that will? Not sure if they make the ten year mark or not (pretty certain at least the performa won't!) so sorry for the bandwidth... I've got a few II's and a /// with a couple of profiles, and used LC's before but otherwise my apple knowledge is non-existant. I don't really have the space for them so they'll probably be up for grabs in a few weeks time... :-) cheers Jules Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

23 years, 2 months

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Model 100 DVI drive

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: Does anyone know if the specs on the Model 100 Disk-Video Interface is the same as the CoCo disks? I have a single-drive DVI and a single low-profile CoCo disk drive. They physically look to be the same but I wanted to be sure before I lashed them together. Thanks. Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. First Vice President Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile)

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Pinout for HP 2629b terminal?

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Frank McConnell wrote: > > Hmmm... htis one is not color, but there are a number of odd 'arrow' keys > > on the keyboard that might suggest scanning about a larger than displayed > > buffer... > > One of these would probably have arrow keys for moving the cursor, in > the block up top with the function keys: arrows pointing up, down, > left, right, and up/left meaning "top of buffer". These move the > cursor on the screen. Shift modifies them: I think up, down, left, > and right become "scroll thataway" where the cursor stays put and the > window into the buffer moves; and shift+up/left is "bottom of buffer". Well... eight 'arrow' keys (I think, I'm not in front of it at the moment) with the 'usual' up, down, left, right... then diagonal (???) keys, and some have the legend 'roll' on them as well... > There would also be "NEXT PAGE" and "PREV PAGE" keys that let you > page through the buffer. Hmmm... I'll look, but don't reall these... > If it's a graphics terminal (and has its original keyboard), the > numeric pad off to the right has additional legends for its > manipulations of the graphics cursor. I think it has its proper keyboard, but it has no numeric pad. Did note an alternate numeric set in the alpha keys similar to some keypunch machines... > > Any enlightenment you can provide will be greatly appreciated! > > I tried trawling my inventory database for the manual, but no luck. > But I'll keep my eyes open as I dig through boxes. Cool... Thanks; -jim --- jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw

23 years, 2 months

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OT: Location

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

I may be new to the list, but my location's always been there. Cheers! :) Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "Francois" > <francois(a)auradon.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 12:24 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: OT: Location > > Hi all, > Sorry for the OT post but I think it is worth noting since it relates to > the > list. > I seen a few post where people add their location after their name in the > signature, I think this is way cool and give a perspective on the > globalization of the list. > I would like to strongly encourage everybody on theis list to do the same > and add your location. > Thank you for your attention > Francois > Minnesota USA > >

23 years, 2 months

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Removing Duct Tape Residue

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Goo Gone is good. Be careful with Goof Off, as it is a paint remover (with petroleum-based solvents). It can disolve some plastics. Peanut butter (creamy :) ) or vegetable oil will often work to remove fresh adhesive residue. -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Wood [mailto:dbwood@kc.rr.com] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:33 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Removing Duct Tape Residue Try "Goo Gone" or "Goof Off". <snip>

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slightly newer Apple stuff...

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Can anyone tell me anything about them or point me to any good Apple websites >that will? Not sure if they make the ten year mark or not (pretty certain at >least the performa won't!) so sorry for the bandwidth... This is Apple's spec page for older Macs. <http://www.info.apple.com/support/applespec.legacy/index.html> -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 2 months

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ibm sys/36 5360 basic needed

by ceby2＠csc.com

Bill -- FYI, some 8" floppy based software just turned up on ePay. Item 2304666096. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2304666096&ssPageName=AD… They've got pretty much everything except what you were after. I've been bidding on it myself. In fact I've gone as far as a hundred bucks. If I'm bidding against anyone on the list maybe we can come to some co-purchase agreement before my media lust gets the better of my fiduciary responsibility. I already have quite a lot of it. System Support Programs Utilities RPG II Cobol Mcode Display Write 36 Display Write Language Dictionary Business Graphics Utility Personal Services 36 Query 36 PC Support 36 Additional SSP Base Communications 3270 Device Emulation MSRJE Display Station Pass-Through Tape Support PTF's - Colin Eby ceby2(a)csc.com Senior Consultant, National Performance Engineeering Practice CSC Consulting.

23 years, 2 months

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Tamper proof tools

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 0:30, Tothwolf wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Sue & Francois wrote: > > > Thank you for the answer, > > I have that set and unfortunately there is no bit that fits those weird > > screws. It looks like a hex nut driver would work on those star shaped > > screws but I can't find my set at the moment. I'm still looking for the > > proper tool though > > I believe what you are looking for is called an 'External linehead' bit. > Linehead fasteners, are extremely popular in Japan, but US made and > imported tools are available. Another good place to see drawings of screw head types is http://www.lara.com/reviews/screwtypes.htm -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 2 months

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'386 chip upgrade?

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

I've got an old P70 (IBM MCA luggable w/ plasma display) with a '386DX20 that I'm playing around with. Does anyone know if there's a drop-in replacement for the '386DX? I'm pretty constrained space-wise, no room for an interposer and barely room for a heatsink should one prove necessary. I'm not aiming for a fire-breathing monster, just more geek points when I boot AIX-PS/2 and Solaris-mca 2.6 on it. Thanks! Bob

23 years, 2 months

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first photo's

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

> Well.. I loaded up yer URLs - and 5 minutes later, when about 1/3 of the > first eleventy-bazillon byte .jpg had drizzled into my browser, I > abandoned it. ha ha - yeah, they were a bit big. Glad this browser's got a zoom feature. seems to be a common mistake people make when they first get a digital camera - I've seen a similar thing with scanners, where people insist on scanning a whole A4 page and sending that around for the sake of the tiny photo up in one corner. You learn by experience though I guess, and as someone else said it's nice to have the big images but some sort of warning and smaller thumbnail versions would have been nice. cheers Jules __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

23 years, 2 months

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Back in the game

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 27, 22:23, Ethan Dicks wrote: > After a *very* brief unemployment, I started at a new job today - as an > OpenVMS Administrator Congratulations! > Now back to the side of the table with money, but no time... :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 2 months

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5110 trade update (last one)

by fauradon＠frontiernet.net

Hi all, By now I have sent all interested parties a final email requesting confirmation of their earlier offer, if you were interested and have not received an email from me, please sen me one quick because I'll be closing the shop soon (figuratively) Thank you for your attention Francois Minnesota

23 years, 2 months

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Need ECU for Everex Step Megacube

by red＠bears.org

Hi, guys. I picked up an Everex Step Megacube yesterday, and fulfilled a 10-year-old, forgotten lust. I wanted one of these REALLY BADLY when they were new. Anyway, I need the ECU (EISA configuration utility) for this guy, or at the very least the .CFG for the motherboard. If somebody has it and could email me a copy (pkzip or somesuch is fine) I would be eternally grateful. Thanks! ok r.

23 years, 2 months

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Spectrum Holobyte Tetris

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

I thought I'd never hear that company's name again. I've been looking feverishly, for about 3 years, for a copy of Spectrum Holobyte's "Blockout!" The base game is a series of walls the player needs to take down by grouping 3 or more like blocks or symbols. It also contains bombs, missiles, and other cute destructive devices. It was a simple game, made to run in DOS, and I'd (or my wife would!) just about die for a copy of it. Ours died when my DOS-based BBS fried back in '97... Cheers... Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of David > Holland <dholland(a)woh.rr.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 9:33 AM > To: Classic Computer Talk > Subject: Re: Spectrum Holobyte Tetris > > Now, I don't have a copy of Spectrum Holobyte's Tetris lying around > here, but I don't recall hearing any mention of it having noteworthy > contents. > >

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System/36 whining and begging...

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

Another and perhaps the simplest way to archive sys34 or 36 pgms to diskette or cd is to use the 5250 pc emulator card or a clone card and the pc support pgms on the pc and sys/36. the emulator turns a pc xt or at into a 5251 terminal and does the ebcdic/ascii conversion for pc to 36 printer files. there are many different versions of the emulator cards still out there some will even run in windows. i even saw a pcmcia version for a laptop. you can save disk or diskette - library's,files and members on the pc from the 36 then transfer the diskette to a windows machine if needed and put it on cd. useing the same process one could even send a copy of sys/36 pgms via email. the labels and owner id must match the pgm distrubition diskettes label if copying a 8 diskette. then a person could do the reverse to get the files back on the 36. i have the emulator card but have not played with the copy to pc feature yet i got all this info from the pc support 36 manual. i am not sure how much the ibm standards differ from the shugart or other standards. ibm had the 1d and 2d diskettes and both had a low and hi density format (format 1 or 2). do keep us posted about which process you end up useing as i want to archive all of my fresh 8 in copies also. i hope the non ascii data of sys3x data (ebcdic) dosn't go down to the binary level. Bill Message: 17 Subject: System/36 whining and begging... To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org From: "Colin Eby" <ceby2(a)csc.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:44:09 -0500 Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Folks -- Thought I'd continue my unreasonable begging from the previous note back to Bill. I'd like to take on a little project of creating archival images of S/36 media. I've made a duplicate of most of what I own on fresher 8" stock. But I don't think that's a long term strategy for avoiding the inevitable ravages of media corruption. What I had in mind was something like a 'dd' dump of each disk that could be reloaded to fresh 8" media when required. I haven't given this too much thought so bear with me.... I'm working on a list of questions and puzzles to accomplish this goal.The first obvious problem is media to hardware integration. If memory serves, I read somewhere that IBM used an oddball disk format (Sellam, you might know this). 8" Shuggart drives come on the market from time to time but, would they, using low level drivers, be able to make a physical block by block copy of IBM S/36 disk data? The second problem is hardware to hardware integration. Has anyone had luck integrating a 8" drive with a more recent machine? And what are the alternatives? I presume this could be done on DEC hardware and then sent to any open platform over a network connection. Has anyone gotten an 8" floppy operating under an Intel based Linux host. That would seem the obvious media transfer station because of the wide range of hardware compatibility. Once these first two steps are done, any basic disk utility ought to make short work of creating binary dumps. An alternative approach might be to copy the disks directly on the System/36 host using platform native tools then sending the file across some form of network connection. The problem is I haven't a clue how that would need to be done. I've never read any low level API for S/36 as a platform. IBM seems to have kept anything harware layer proprietary. Any and all thoughts welcome. Thanks, -Colin ceby2(a)csc.com Senior Consultant, National Performance Engineeering Practice CSC Consulting.

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ibm sys/36 5360 basic needed

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

Ive always wondered about the 5363 the pc size'd 36. the pc support manual does mention it. the models are 5360 - large sys/36, 5362 - small sys/36, 5551 small model available only in japan and the 5363 pc sized sys/36. the pc support calls the 5363 a "system console". as far a spp is concerned, the 5363 uses 5 1/4 diskettes and the ssp on it is for the 5363 only. i'm not sure about the 8 in versions of 36 ssp. sorry i have no 5 1/4 in ssp diskettes. i don't think the 8 in, 5360 languages or office products pgms will even work with the 5363, they will run on the 5362. i have the same 5360 unit that you have - do you have the service manuals for it? you may want to hang on to the 5360 - you can do more with it and the 8 in diskettes are more commom to find. btw - do a search for 5363 or sys/36 and you should find a page that features a 5363 on it you may want to email him about the diskettes. are the tape drives on your 5360 the r2r or cart drives? Bill Message: 14 Subject: Re: ibm sys/36 5360 basic needed To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org From: "Colin Eby" <ceby2(a)csc.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:25:51 -0500 Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Bill -- I have most of the System/36 stuff... except the languages, sigh. You wouldn't happen to have any of the SSP on 5.25" would you. I have a 5363 I've never successfully IPL'd . And while I'm turning your request for assistance on its head... you wouldn't happen to want a 5360 would you? I have one in need of a good home. I don't even have a garage so I'm paying storage for the beast (2 tape drives, 2 printers, expanded main cabinet with additional disk platters and the magazine version of the 8" floppy). Maybe I can be more helpful if you have other S/36 needs in future. I have a lot of the books and even a few already scanned to PDF. While I'm begging, I don't suppose anyone out there has the Office suite for S/36, or any interesting applications? Or maybe someone wants to be free of a 5364 (a little easier on the electric bills than the 63, 62 or 60). My systems only have SSP, and I have a perverse desire to get some use out of them. -Colin

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How many PDP-12's are there now?

by root＠parse.com

So... all this discussion about PDP-12's has got me curious. How many of them are there in existence? It would certainly be interesting to get a list of machines and at least city locations -- I'll start the list: Ottawa/ON/Canada (mine) Roswell/GA/USA If anyone wants to send me info, I'll volunteer to collect and put it up on my website (I won't put email addresses or other incriminating evidence unless you want me to :-)). The other interesting thing that this discussion begs is the topic of (borrowed term) "biomagnification". It's from the environmental field, and basically relates to how bigger animals get more than their "fair" share of poisons because they eat smaller animals which have already concentrated the poisons in their systems. I've borrowed the term because lately what I've been thinking about is the accumulated collections of people who are no longer interested in collecting -- in this case, instead of just getting one or two machines at a time, you tend to get "clusters" of machines -- hence "biomagnification" :-) So... any collectors out there getting rid of PDP stuff? :-) Cheers, -RK -- Looking for Digital Equipment Corp. PDP-1 through PDP-15 minicomputers! Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices +1 613 599 8316. Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting and Training at www.parse.com

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Free PDP-11

by root＠parse.com

Saw this on the newsgroups; in case anyone missed it: > Steve Cayford <steve_cayford(a)unioncab.com> at TDS.NET Internet Services www.tds.net > > Newsgroups: uwisc.forsale,wi.madison.forsale > > Hi. We've got a PDP-11/23 Plus to get rid of. It's free to whoever would > like to come pick it up at Union Cab in Madison. > > Contact me by e-mail if you're interested. Cheers, -RK -- Looking for Digital Equipment Corp. PDP-1 through PDP-15 minicomputers! Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices +1 613 599 8316. Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting and Training at www.parse.com

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Taper proof tools.

by fauradon＠frontiernet.net

Hi all, I am looking for one of those tamper proof tool for the sega nomad. It is basically the same shape as the screws for the game cartridges on the genesis but it is so far recessed (3/4 in) that the pliers trick will not work. Anyone know of a source for such tool? Thank you Francois

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Casio CFX-200

by rojas_gonzalo＠hotmail.com

Hi: I have a perfectly functional (and I am using all days) Casio CFX-200 Scientific Calculator Watch... But, I am having a problem with it: due to the use of the clock, the lateral buttons was deteriorated and they have sharp borders... And that sharp buttons damage the cuff of my shirts... The local Casio Technical Support (Santiago, Chile) tolds me that it isn't exist replacement for the buttons... Do you know where can I get replacement buttons for my CFX-200 ?... or a replacement case ?... or how I can fix them ?... Best regards, and thanks in advance... Gonzalo Rojas _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Odd posting order on cctech

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

> From: ombra.nl(a)planet.nl [mailto:ombra.nl@planet.nl] > > Same problem here & I'm in the Hague using adsl with planet. The > funny order I can understand with different time zones but why 85 all > at once? Sometimes the original post comes long after all the > replies. Mostly they all arrive in my evening but not always. Same here, mostly between 10pm - 07am Amsterdam time... --f

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PDP-8: anyone tried NVRAM simulation of hard drives?

by c.morris＠townsqr.com

Has anyone had interfaced nonvolatile RAM to a PDP-8 to simulate an original hard drive? The DF32 fully expanded with four disks was only 256k x 12... Dallas Semi makes battery-backed NVRAM in a variety of sizes. Two DS1258 (each 128k x 16) would make for a very simple interface that would fit on a single card (or at most a double card). Packing the 12-bit words would complicate the interface a little but lower the cost of the NVRAMs. Using an old 3.5 or 5.25 inch hard drive would be very cheap per meg but would also require development of a controller (like the 8051 mentioned recently as an interface to an HP computer). I don't think there were any original drives greater than 1 Mword available, so larger ones would require nonstandard code to support them anyway. Any thoughts? -Charles

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Test post, please ignore

by jss＠subatomix.com

Testing a feature. Please ignore. -- Jeffrey Sharp [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type application/msword which had a name of MarketDataDeveloper.doc]

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Seeking LaserJet IIISi I/O card

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi I've seen these come up about once every month or so in eBay. I bought a duplexer for my 3si and an envelope feeder, on eBay. You just need to keep a search going, every few days. I'm sure you'll find one. I'd originally bought a parallel/serial card when I bought mine, surplus, because of the same problem. At the time, I bought it from a printer repair store. It cost almost $200. Later ( about 2 years ) the card failed. I located one on eBay for about $25, I was back on the air. Dwight >From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> > > >I have asked in the past about a replacement card for my HP LJ-IIID >with little success (they are apparently somewhat rare). Several >people offered me ones that did not physically fit. Well now, I >have a *newer* old HP printer, an HP LJ-IIISi that takes the square >interface cards with the white/grey 3-row connector. Unfortunately, >the printer I got from OSU surplus (which seems to print just fine) >only has this truely ancient C2059A integral print server - no serial >or parallel, Novell only. :-( Worse, the firmware is particularly >obsolete and deprecated by HP. > >So... if anyone has a spare interface card, I'm interested. Two, in >fact; one for me and one for a friend who needs to hook another IIISi >to his OS X Mac. The printer is on-topic (mine was manufactured in 1991) >at least. > >Let me know cost/part numbers/etc off-list. > >Thanks, > >-ethan

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Odd posting order on cctech

by ombra.nl＠planet.nl

Same problem here & I'm in the Hague using adsl with planet. The funny order I can understand with different time zones but why 85 all at once? Sometimes the original post comes long after all the replies. Mostly they all arrive in my evening but not always. M.R. Hoare

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TIL306 displays

by p.dalliessi＠paradise.net.nz

Hello Toth. I saw your reference to TIL displays at another site, and you indicated you may have some. Actually I am lookig for 4 pces TIL306 and 5 pces TIL308 displays. Would you be able to help please? Thank you in anticipation. Peter J. Dalliessi. New Zealand.

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Ebay: Mark 1 Computer Cards

by marvin＠rain.org

The pictures didn't load for me right now, but if these truely are the Mark 1 cards, it sounds like a neat collection! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2303799002&category=1247

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Bernoulli

by sml49＠attbi.com

Evan R. Pauley wrote: > >> Seth/all, >> >> Actually, he could be looking at a 20MB drive. Iomega produced a dual 20MB >> box called the Bernoulli Box II, which had two 5-1/4" 20 meg drives side by >> > This is the 5-1/4 unit (side by side) apparently with 20MB drives. > The 90meg 5-1/4 cartridges fit in it, but I doubt that they would > work correctly. Also 20meg is quite small any more. Well, I'll > hang onto it until I find some media to go with it, or someone who > needs it. Now that I think about it, the 90 I once used was a single-bay unit. Worked well and didn't seem to mind being knocked around. Worked fine on all Mac SCSI ports w/o difficulty so perhaps it'd do as well on older PC-centric SCSI cards. Seth

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Can a TU81+ be connected to a TU80 controller?

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Yea, the TU80 is Pertec, I know since I own 2 of them... So I can't imagine they're compatible at all.. Don't think they are even the same family of CDC drives... Will J _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Ebay: Mark 1 Computer Cards

by fmc＠reanimators.org

John Lawson <jpl15(a)panix.com> wrote: > Even though his picture links were still broken when I checked it out - > from the description text, it is *highly* doubtful that Linksys would be > re-using Harvard Mark I relay cards (555 pounds of them) in it's mid-60s > Boeing 727 Simulator - trainer. Poking round the web last week gave me the idea that these could be >from a General Precision GP-4, a computer whose legacy on the web seems to be that it was used in Singer-Link cockpit simulators. -Frank McConnell

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