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NeXTStation Color monitor cable pinout needed

by ian_primus＠yahoo.com

Thanks to your help, I now know what I need - I need the three headed cable with two 13W3 connectors and one DB-19. ( this thing - http://www.obsoletecomputermuseum.org/nextcolor/monitor_cable.jpg ) I have scoured the internet looking for the pinout of this cable, but to no avail. I did find some information about the monochrome slabs, but it doesn't help me very much. There doesn't seem to be much out there about the color NeXTStations at all. Anyway, if anyone has the pinout of that monitor cable, it would be much appreciated. It shouldn't be too hard to add the extra connector to the old Sun monitor cable I already have. All the pins on the Sun cable do go straight through, and there are wires for all of them, I checked with a multimeter. Thanks! Ian Primus ian_primus(a)yahoo.com

23 years, 2 months

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PDP-8 front panel switches needed

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

> Does anyone know of a source for (or have) enough PDP-8 (the original > "straight") front panel switches to fill in a front panel? I am working > on a replica of the PDP-8 (non-functional) for a museum exhibit, and need > to find either a source for switches or some that look close enough. In the interests of keeping viable machines still functioning, and given that this is for a non-functional museum display, it might be worth looking into actually making something - painted wood, vacuum-formed plastic, whatever. Just a thought. I'm not a DEC person (don't have the space!) and these switches might be common as muck for all I know. But I'd hate to think parts were being used on a static display that could be used to keep hardware running elsewhere... cheers Jules Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

23 years, 2 months

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vaxstation 3000?

by acme＠ao.net

Okay, I'll bite. Questions (from a non-DEC mperson): Where is it? Where can I find information about the VS3000? Google pointed me to tons of sites regarding the 3100, 2000, 4000, etc., but nothing specific to the 3000. Why? Is the 3000 a dog? To the classiccmp DEC-heads: is the 3000 a good starting point for someone who's curious about VAXen? If not, why not, and what would be a better place to begin? TIA -- Glen Goodwin Orlando, FL USA > Anybody have any interest in a VaxStation 3000? > Looks clean, no monitor or kbd.

23 years, 2 months

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Berg Connectors

by chd_1＠nktelco.net

Is there a replacement for the Berg connectors? I am talking about the 100mil spacing, dual inline connectors that had individually insertable, crimp contacts. The AMP MT connectors look like a replacement. Does anybody have experience with this? I am working on an DEC RX01/RX02 emulator for my pdp-8/e and want to run a cable about 20ft. I was thinking about using 4 runs of cat5 twisted cable and the individually contacts would be quite convenient. -chuck

23 years, 2 months

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Getting Started with VAXen (was Re: vaxstation 3000)

by classiccmp＠crash.com

> To the classiccmp DEC-heads: is the 3000 a good starting point > for someone who's curious about VAXen? If not, why not, and > what would be a better place to begin? If you want to get started with VAXen, any flavor of VAXstation 3100 would be a great place to start. A basic VS3100 (aka model 30) would be an adequate, very cheap way to start. They'll do everything you'd need to begin learning about the VAX and VMS, Ultrix, or *BSD. These early models are limited in terms of expansion and speed by current standards, however, and if you have the money or opportunity you might want to look for something faster like a VS3100 m76, or any VS4000. To learn more about the different VAX models, I'd take a look at the NetBSD/VAX page http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/vax and look into the different model descriptions. To get licenses and media for running VMS, go to the DECUS/Encompass OpenVMS Hobbyist Pages at http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/index.html You'll have to join Encompass, but that's free. And you'll need the serial number from your VAX/Alpha. If you check the archives for this mailing list, or hit Google Groups archives for comp.sys.dec and comp.os.vms, you'll find all kinds of info and links to web sites. Good luck, and have fun! --Steve.

23 years, 2 months

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Fw: Emulated Peripherals

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 3:23 PM Subject: Re: Emulated Peripherals > UGGGGG!!!!! > > Ok, what moderator let that obvious advertisement through??? I know it > wasn't me. > > Sorry folks, I'll try to ensure that doesn't happen again. > > Jay West > List Admin

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Probably doesn';t fall under the 20 year rule... Cubix 1010

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

Local scrapper/reseller ahd a Cubix 1010 "fault tolerant' computer system, it is 2 chassis each with 6 P-200 or 233 boards in them....

23 years, 2 months

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Question on chip date code

by vcf＠siconic.com

I am looking at a chip that is causing me confusing with regards to its actual date code. The chip is labeled thusly: (logo) /718 DM74157N 9322 (logo) looks something like this: /\/ /\/ ...which probably makes it National Semiconductor. My first instinct is to guess that its date code is 9322. However, it does not fit within the context of the rest of the board, which is 1976. They are definitely not original, as the board calls for a 74257 but the 74157 has been put in its place with the addition of a capacitor across +5 and ground. Is it possible that the date code is actually "/718", and what I am seeing as a slash is actually what remains of a '7' that wasn't printed correctly? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 2 months

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ULTRIX ris install

by franco.tassone＠inwind.it

Few days ago gome guys (including me) were wondering how could it be possible to do an Ultrix installation via RIS support. I was able to fulfill this task right now, if someone is interested I can help in this odd work.

23 years, 2 months

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Mac Printers (Cambridge, UK)

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

OK, I haven't decided what I'm doing yet with the various Apple machines I got the other week, but I know the printers are just getting in the way, so if anyone wants the following just give me a shout: Apple Stylewriter II + manual Apple Colour Stylewriter 2500 - no PSU, needs 13.5V HP Deskwriter 660C + PSU + driver disks (ok this one doesn't hit the ten year mark :) I had the same printer for the PC which failed a while back, and I kept the centronics interface board from it so you're welcome to that too. I may also have the manuals for the PC version still, which might be useful. I've only got the one data cable, currently plugged into the colour stylewriter; I expect it works with all three printers though. I have no idea what of the above works - all the systems that came in the same haul worked fine though so I expect they were just dumped as surplus. Free for collection from Cambridge, UK. cheers Jules Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

23 years, 2 months

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PDP-8 front panel switches needed

by vcf＠siconic.com

Does anyone know of a source for (or have) enough PDP-8 (the original "straight") front panel switches to fill in a front panel? I am working on a replica of the PDP-8 (non-functional) for a museum exhibit, and need to find either a source for switches or some that look close enough. If you have some you wouldn't mind parting with, please contact me with your asking price. If you know of a source, please pass it on. Thanks! -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 2 months

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new find pdp-11/05

by robinm＠rpi.edu

Hello, Thanks to those pointing out about the various sorts of pdp-11/05 backplanes, and pointing me to the engineering drawing repositories. I had forgotten where that was, though I knew of its existence. I'll keep everyone updated as to our progress in getting this machine alive again. Michael Robinson RPI Electronics Club Vaxherd/PDP-11 Fixer robinm(a)rpi.edu

23 years, 2 months

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NeXTStation Color DSP cable pinout

by ian_primus＠yahoo.com

I recently accquired a NeXTStation Color, complete with color monitor and DSP box. Unfortunately, I don't have the cable to go from the NeXTStation to the DSP box, and therefore, I can't use the computer because the keyboard also connects to the DSP box. Does anyone have the pinout for this cable? Also, how does everything connect? I have seen various info on the internet that conflicts. I am assuming by looking at it that the monitor port is just a monitor port, and connects to the monitor through a standard 13W3 cable (came with the computer, but it Sun branded). Then the sound box would connect to the computer through the DB-15 on the back of the computer labelled "DSP" and to the DB-19 port on the sound box. Then the keyboard plugs into the sound box. But >from searching the internet, I have found things such as this http://www.obsoletecomputermuseum.org/nextcolor/monitor_cable.jpg that show a three headed cable that would connect the monitor to the computer, and to the back of the sound box. But then what would the DSP port be used for? And how would the computer get the signals from the keyboard? I'm new to NeXT hardware, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Ian Primus ian_primus(a)yahoo.com

23 years, 2 months

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VHS Tapes as storage.

by kittstr＠access-4-free.com

Hi, I seem to remember reading in popular electronics, about software that would let you use a vcr to backup your computer. I think it was about 10 years ago. Does anyone remember or know anything about this. My searches on google have turned up nothing. Thanks for any help you can provide! Andrew Strouse

23 years, 2 months

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cctech digest, Vol 1 #370 - 5 msgs

by robinm＠rpi.edu

> > Could someone scan the engineering drawings for an H217C stack? > > Go to http://www.spies.com/~aek/pdf/dec or > http://www.maincoon.com/classiccmp one or both will have drawings for > the 11/05. Hmm, we do have the drawings for the 11/05. However, neither of the above sites seem to have drawings of the H217C. > > This is partly for my own edification (I have one such board in my > > machine), and partly because of the fact that this "new" pdp-11/05 has no > > core with it. Its engineering drawings seem to indicate that it wants > > 4 or 8kW of core (one or more of H213-H216), *not* the 16kW of a H217. > > (Granted, by placing two H214s into a chassis we get 16kW, but I > > digress.) > > It will depend upon which backplane you have. If it's an 11/05-S > backplane then it's the same as what I have and you can go to > http://www.shiresoft.com/pdp-11/11-10/index.html to see how to use an > H217C (which is what I have in mine). I'm fairly sure it's not an 11/05-S, though I could obviously be wrong. I don't have the machine in front of me right now. Looking at the machine you have, the form-factor is very different (that, of course is not conclusive). This machine looks like a lower-profile beast, the modules enter from the side of the chassis, which is a pain because you have to take the machine out of the rack to get at them. > > If so, the next question is, can I do this with an H217? (Drop in an > > H217C, and tell the machine that it's really an H214/H215.) This might > > sound like a gratuitous waste of core, which it is, but I happen to have > > another core board (not in my machine) that could be used... So anyway, > > the engineering drawings would answer this question really fast. > > > > It's not so much the drawings but the wirelist for the backplane. You > really need to know which backplane you have. I have that. Again, my question is what does the H217 look like in comparison to the H213-H216 family? Pretty much the only piece of data I need to answer my question is the engineering drawings of the H217... Guy: BTW, the proud owner of this machine is Jesse Kempf, whom I believe you have talked with. He's not on classiccmp, though. Thanks, Michael Robinson RPI Electronics Club Vaxherd/PDP-11 Fixer robinm(a)rpi.edu

23 years, 2 months

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4k x 24 core memory box

by aek＠spies.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11713&item=3007514062 FYI.. Seller (of course) has no clue what it is.

23 years, 2 months

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What computer is this front panel for?

by aek＠spies.com

> Perkin Elmer, maybe? Probably Harris. Doesn't match the layout of the original Datacraft 6024.

23 years, 2 months

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HP 9000 "Nova" I-class systems

by jwillis＠arielusa.com

I have a copy of HPUX 11.0, but I can't seem to boot off the CD. It says "Bad LIF magic" when I do a boot 52.2.0.0 etc etc. How does one get these things loaded up with an OS? -----Original Message----- From: Keven Miller Sent: Wed 2/12/2003 10:07 PM To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Cc: Subject: Re: HP 9000 "Nova" I-class systems > It's probably too old for full parisc-linux support. > (www.parisc-linux.org) > I was somewhat surprised, but happy that my G40 installed HPUX 11i. It seems to run ok, but slow with the default 128M memory. Just added 256M, and will be running more tests soon. Keven Miller [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat]

23 years, 2 months

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HP 9000 "Nova" I-class systems

by jwillis＠arielusa.com

Anyone out there have experience with HP 9000 "Nova" class systems? Specifically the 9000/800 I40 especially, but any in the class. John

23 years, 2 months

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TIL306

by donrecardo＠blueyonder.co.uk

Hi I just stumbled across your message ( I think it was you that started it ) asking for a substitute for TIL306 displays I have infact got ten TIL306RS displays in my parts bins Maybe you have allready found a local source for them and so dont need them any more As for cost I know I was surprised at how expensive they were when I bought them but if your interested in any then make me an offer plus postage ( UK Funds only) Don PS I am in England

23 years, 2 months

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11/44 is alive :)

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Thanks to all who helped! I checked out my backplane (NOW I see why the 44's always tilt up in the rack, so you can frequently get to the backplane wiring) and sure enough, missing NPR jumpers. I wire wrapped them back in (laughing at just how long ago it was since I had to use a wirewrap tool) and now - voila. The 44 comes up just fine, passing T, T/E, and T/A tests anyways. I can also deposit and examine a random memory location or two, probably a good sign. Now I just have to find out why it doesn't seem to think I have a TU58 attached...then get some RL02's up... Another question - I was perusing the net for what OS's I can run on the 44. I already have RT11 with TSX+ up on another machine, so on this one I was looking for something different. Being as my bent is multiuser basic machines (like HP2000 TSB), I was piqued by some references to EduSystem25 I think it's called. I got the impression it USED to be Poly BASIC, but that software was later acquired by DEC and turned into the EduSystem25. There was a link saying where EduSystem25 can be found, but alas, the link is dead. Does anyone know where manuals and media might be found for EduSystem25? Thanks! Jay West

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11/44 is alive :)

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> Mentec allows you to use up to version 9.6 in their hobbyest > program, but I don't know if it is limited to emulators only. > > Version 7, and emulators, available at > > http://simh.trailing-edge.com/ Not only is it limited to emulators, but it's also limited to emulators owned by DEC. The actual verbage in the license is: "EMULATOR shall mean software owned by Digital Equipment Corporation that emulates the operation of a PDP-11 processor and allows PDP-11 programs and operating systems to run on non-PDP-11 systems." It's commonly accepted that this means SIMH, as Bob Supnik was a DEC VP at the time. You can see the complete license at my website: http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/pdp11emu.html There is a Hobbyist License in the works that would allow certain versions of the OS's that Mentec has to be run on real hardware. Some unfortunate circumstances have held it up though. Zane

23 years, 2 months

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More Transputer equipment for sale

by tim.myers＠sunplan.com

Almost the last item in my Transputer collection is now up on Ebay - this is a boxed B012 clone (Transtech TMB12) with 4 20MHz T805 TRAMs on board. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2308085144 if anyone's interested. Still to come is an Inmos analogue TRAM. Tim.

23 years, 2 months

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What computer is this front panel for?

by jss＠subatomix.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3401934914&category=1247 They think it's a PDP-8 panel, but I highly doubt that given: (0) It's got 24 bits, or maybe 18 + 6 if you look closely. (1) The switches are the wrong color (2) No "|D|I|G|I|T|A|L| PDP-8" anywhere on it (3) Doesn't look like any PDP-8 I've ever seen So what is it? -- Jeffrey Sharp

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Probably OT: Exabyte tape drives

by jrasite＠eoni.com

A friend seems to have come into a pile of Exabyte 8505XL and tapes. 18gb IIRC. Supposedly for Suns, but perusing Exabyte's site shows that they'll fit in just about everything except Mac. Any interest? Anyone know what they might be worth? <http://www.exabyte.com/support/online/documentation/hardware.cfm?id=109> P-mail reply please. Judging from some of the other lists I'm on, the moon seems to be in an intolerant to OT posts phase. <mailto:jrasite@eoni.com> Jim

23 years, 2 months

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vaxstation 3000?

by grg2＠attbi.com

Anybody have any interest in a VaxStation 3000? Looks clean, no monitor or kbd. BTW is there a faq about hooking up a VGA monitor to a Vaxstation video connector? Regards, George

23 years, 2 months

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HP 7970 E spool disk drive for sale in India(!)

by vcf＠siconic.com

Here's the guy in India again. I doubt anyone will jump on this offer, especially after Lawson's incredible tale of Indian customs malfeasance, but if you do get it, I'm sure it'll make for a very entertaining story. Reply-to: rajatkakkar(a)rediffmail.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 21:23:15 +0530 From: rajatkakkar <rajatkakkar(a)rediffmail.com> To: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> Subject: Re: HP 7970 E spool disk drive Respected Sir / Madam, I want to sell the HP 7970 E spool disk drive, as I am not putting it to any use. Hence, please guide me regarding the web-sites through whom I can sell or even donate it to a person / organisation where it should be put to some good use. Regards Rajat Kakkar -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 2 months

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HP 7980S 800bpi option?

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

Hi, A long time ago, Frank McDonnel wrote: > For 7980s, 1600 and 6250 are standard and 800 is an option. > 7980A is HP-IB, 7980S is SCSI (single-ended). There's also > an "XC" option which does in-the-drive compression on 6250BPI > tapes; I think this option does not coexist with the 800BPI > option. I have one of these drives, and am very happy with it. It would be even better if I had a manual :) But, seriously. I am (desperately :) looking for this 800bpi module for the drive; I have the XC option which I'm willing to remove in favor of the 800bpi module. Does anyone here have an option part number, or, even better, the option itself ? *help* [squeeky-voice scream] --fred

23 years, 2 months

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11/44 is alive :)

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

> There is a Hobbyist License in the works that would allow > certain versions of the OS's that Mentec has to be run on > real hardware. Right. > Some unfortunate circumstances have held it up though. Ahh, what excuses do they (Mentec) claim these days, then? --fred

23 years, 2 months

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11/44 is alive :)

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

> Naive question - will RSTS/E run on an 11/73? Yes. Very nicely, too. --fred

23 years, 2 months

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New find: pdp-11/05

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

Henk wrote: > From an 11/05 pocket guide I know that there exist 3 different > versions of the 11/10 backplane with distinct differences as to > in which slots the boards go! > Sorry, can't be of more help (yet), because I do not have a copy > of that 11/10 pocket guide booklet. I actually saw that guide today. The main difference is the amount of core memory the backplane will support, and, hence, the backplane slot layout for the system. It is VERY important to know which kind of backplane you have, otherwise, damage to the boards WILL occur ! You can just slide out the backplane from the cage, and read the ID on the sticker. --fred

23 years, 2 months

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VGA screens on.. (was RE: vaxstation 3000?)

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

> > BTW is there a faq about hooking up a VGA monitor to a > > Vaxstation video connector? I was able to dump all DEC single-frequency tubes by getting some IDEK (Iiyama) 17" color monitors which have both VGA and BNC (3 and 5, SOG supported) ports. Excellent picture, including GPX/SPX/SPX+ and the PMAG cards! --f

23 years, 2 months

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vaxstation 3000?

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

Forgot a couple of steps. > to a BNC to HD15M cable to a HD15F/HD15F gender changer to a HD15M to BNC video cable > to a SONY 5 BNC Multisync Monitor At 02:09 PM 2/14/03 -0500, you wrote: > > BTW is there a faq about hooking up a VGA monitor to a > > Vaxstation video connector? > > >I've done it, for testing purposes. IIRC, I used the DEC cable which >ended in BNC, joined, by using BNC/BNC straight adapters, to a >BNC to HD15 cable, to a SONY 5 BNC Multisync Monitor ( Sony, >Radius, Rasterops, HP branded ? whichever is handy at the time). >Probably only hooked R,G, and B though. The Sonys can accept >separate sync ( all 5 BNC's connected ), composite sync ( 4 BNC's >connected ), and sync on green ( 3 BNC's connected ), and will >autosense and autoswitch to the correct sync type. Never took it all >the way to a GUI though. Just wanted to get a text screen to make >sure the box was alive. > > > > > > > > >At 06:51 PM 2/14/03 +0000, you wrote: >>Anybody have any interest in a VaxStation 3000? >>Looks clean, no monitor or kbd. >> >>BTW is there a faq about hooking up a VGA monitor to a >>Vaxstation video connector? >> >>Regards, >> >> >>George

23 years, 2 months

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New find: pdp-11/05

by robinm＠rpi.edu

Hello, Today a friend of mine acquired a pdp-11/05 from our school's engineering department. Unfortunately, it isn't in too good shape. Fortunately for him, I've spent the last three years restoring (sucessfully!) a pdp-11/45. So I offered to help. However, this machine is somewhat of a different animal, so questions: Could someone scan the engineering drawings for an H217C stack? This is partly for my own edification (I have one such board in my machine), and partly because of the fact that this "new" pdp-11/05 has no core with it. Its engineering drawings seem to indicate that it wants 4 or 8kW of core (one or more of H213-H216), *not* the 16kW of a H217. (Granted, by placing two H214s into a chassis we get 16kW, but I digress.) That would have been enough to shut me up, but I looked a little further. It appears that the H213 (4kW) stack is a proper subset of the H214 (8kW) stack. The schematics appear to indicate that the H214 has all of the lines, bus connections, etc. as the H213, plus a few more. Indeed, it appears that if I were to place an H214 in the machine, but tell it that it was an H213, it would be fine (and see 4kW of course). Am I right? If so, the next question is, can I do this with an H217? (Drop in an H217C, and tell the machine that it's really an H214/H215.) This might sound like a gratuitous waste of core, which it is, but I happen to have another core board (not in my machine) that could be used... So anyway, the engineering drawings would answer this question really fast. If not, I guess we'll be looking for an H213-H216... :) Thanks, Michael Robinson RPI Electronics Club Vaxherd/PDP-11 Fixer robinm(a)rpi.edu

23 years, 2 months

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New find: pdp-11/05

by GOOI＠oce.nl

As Guy said: > It's not so much the drawings but the wirelist for the backplane. > You really need to know which backplane you have. That is very true!

23 years, 2 months

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Want Documation M200 manual

by vcf＠siconic.com

I appreciate having the scans of the Documation M200 punch card reader manual available online thanks to David Gesswein, but it just doesn't compare to having the original manual in your hands. If anyone has a copy of the original manual and would like to trade, please e-mail me directly. Thanks! -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 2 months

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Virtual vs Physical memory (was Re: Designing around a 6502 )

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Hans Franke" <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de> > >> > A segmented architecture... > >> I have one word to say about segmented architecture... "Ewwwww" > >:) I like segmented systems. It's one of the best concepts for >address space extension. Ok, I also think that the 8086 is one >of the best 16 Bit CPUs (*1) ever, and as the 186 core at the >top of their evolution. > >Gruss >H. > >(*1) There are other great ones, like the 9900. Hi Hans Then you'll love the Z8000. Its segments are non-overlapping ( unless a mmu makes them so ). I like the 186 myself but have to admit that the time for segmented memory has passed, in general purpose computing. Dwight

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Gridcase 1530

by ligkig＠hotmail.com

Dear Sir, Greetings form Geolab! We are formed in 1991 as an independent multi-discplinary Geotechnical, Environmental and Construction Materials Service firm providing engineering and scientific consulting, subsurface exploration and testing services to both public and private sector clients. At this moment, we are using Gridcase 1530 (386) for the purpose of doing our Pile Drive Analysis Test (PDA Test). Due to this computer is an old unit, we frequently facing problem that bother us once we turn on the computer. The monitor always promp the error as stated below: "Invalid configuration Information : Code 02 Strike F1 key to continue" However, once we strike the F1 key, another error will occur named, Disk Boot Errores. We really appreciate if you can help us out in this matter as soon as possible, this computer is really valuable for our department. We hope to hear >from you soon. Thank you for your kind attention. Regards, Ricky Engineer ligkig(a)hotmail.com

23 years, 2 months

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DEC xx2247 keys

by fm.arnold＠gmx.net

cctech-request(a)classiccmp.org schrieb am 12.02.2003: >----------<snip>----------- >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 15:05:43 -0600 (CST) >From: <lemay(a)cs.umn.edu> >To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: DEC xx2247 keys >Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > >I bought a xx2247 key from ebay. Just in case others are planning to do the >same, the key appears to be an almost brand new copy. There is a *slight* >amount of rust in the areas that were cut away, but other than that it is >nice shiny new chrome. > >I purchased mine for the starting bid of $10, but they then charged me $10 >more for shipping (actual shipping was $4.30), making for an expensive key. Thats a general problem on Ebay, seller tend to cover their listing-costs into the "shipping" or "handling" fees they charge. Your only chance to make this clear is a mail to the seller on this before you bid. Make clear that you will only bid if the seller follows the rates of e.g. USPS or some other shippingcompany. Then you have the choice to take or to leave it. >I called the local locksmith and they will duplicate this type of key for >$6 each. The other thing to note is that the key I obtained from Ebay auction >is stamped Do Not Duplicate, which the original DEC keys (I have 2) do not say. > >I figure they had a original copied a few years back, and added the Do Not >Duplicate just in case a customer needed more than 1 key, so they would >have to pay through the nose for it. On my PDP8E I have a similar key, also having this text. Thatone is original however. So there seems to be both versions to be around. > >Now I see they have the starting bid boosted to $25, for a non-original >duplicate key, what a load of... That way too expensive, hope they don't sell it and come back on the carpet. > >PS: I happen to have the locking mechanism disconnected from a PDP 8/E >power supply, and before i reinstall it, i plan to bring it and the keys >to that locksmith so i can have some cheaper, 'working' copies of the >key made. I like having a key sitting in the lock ready to turn. If others >need a key, let me know and i'm sure I can get you one for a lot less >than that ebay guy. Nice offer! Frank

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DEC xx2247 keys

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 12, 15:05, <lemay(a)cs.umn.edu> wrote: > I bought a xx2247 key from ebay. Just in case others are planning to do the > same, the key appears to be an almost brand new copy. There is a *slight* > amount of rust in the areas that were cut away, but other than that it is > nice shiny new chrome. > > I purchased mine for the starting bid of $10, but they then charged me $10 > more for shipping (actual shipping was $4.30), making for an expensive key. > I called the local locksmith and they will duplicate this type of key for > $6 each. My local keycutting shop cut a copy for just a little less than that. The key style is quite standard. The trick, of course, is getting the first one :-) If anyone in the UK needs one, I can get them cut. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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IBM drives in a Kaypro

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I kind of hate to ship off my hard found, and not likely to find many more >IMB drives, anything else yall can think of I could safely offer this >person for his kaypro? Any old full height 360k drive perhaps? I have some half height 5.25 360K drives. They are working pulls from PC clones. I don't think I have any full height ones. Some (most?) are black, and many have that little imprinted asterick that designated the 360K "B" drive as opposed to the 1.2MB "A" drive. I don't know if these are IBM branded drives however, as many were probably NOT pulled from actual IBM PCs (some might have been). If you want one, just let me know. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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IBM drives in a Kaypro

by fm.arnold＠gmx.net

cctech-request(a)classiccmp.org schrieb am 12.02.2003: > >----------<snip>----------- >Message: 6 >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 17:53:21 -0800 >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >From: Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com> >Subject: IBM drives in a Kaypro >Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > >I got this message from a guy today, and I am just wondering if he is >correct, will the IBM drives work in the Kaypro? > >5.25" full-height, 360 KB floppy drives >(the big black ones)? Do they work? >I'd be able to use them to restore a pair of old Kaypro computers that use >these drives. The "B" drive on each Kaypro appears to >be shot. >----------<snip>----------- > Hi, I have one or two Teac FD50A floppy drives around that I dont need. Contact me per PM if you are interested. Frank

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Kaypro II

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Because of a peculiarity in the Kaypro format (Fred Cisin has gone over this before, but I don't have the details at hand), you must format the Kaypro disk on your target PC for it to work. This formatting can be done on a PC with programs such as Xenocopy, MediaMaster, Convert. The disk formated on the PC can then be used in the Kaypro. You can copy files from native Kaypro disks to this disk, then read it in the PC with the software. -----Original Message----- From: Mike van Bokhoven [mailto:mike@ambientdesign.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 6:03 AM To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Kaypro II <snip> - Does anyone know if it's possible to write Kaypro disks with a PC and 5 1/4 inch drive? If not - any hints on where to dig up software? <snip> Mike.

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VHS Tapes as storage.

by knightstalkerbob＠netscape.net

"Andrew Strouse" <kittstr(a)access-4-free.com> wrote: >Hi, I seem to remember reading in popular electronics, about software that >would let you use a vcr to backup your computer. I think it was about 10 >years ago. Does anyone remember or know anything about this. My searches on >google have turned up nothing. Thanks for any help you can provide! > >Andrew Strouse > There was also a hardware/software solution for the Amiga platform, found on Aminet in the disk/bakup dir, VBackup016.lha. "Some days ago I got a message from the german distributor of the "VideoBackupSystem" (Performance Peripherals Europe). They told me, that they think, VBackup looks so similar to the VBS (especialy due to the usage of the same hardware) that VBackup is a violation of the VBS copyright." I may have the older file that has the schematics & software still archived somewhere. -- Bob Mason 2x Amiga 500's, GVP A530 (40mhz 68030/68882, 8meg Fast, SCSI), 1.3/3.1, 2meg Chip, full ECS chipset, EZ135, 1084S, big harddrives, 2.2xCD Gateway Performance 500 Piece 'o Crap, 'ME, 128meg, 20Gig & 40Gig, flatbed. Heathkit H-89A, 64K RAM, hard and soft-sectored floppies, SigmaSoft and Systems 256K RAM Drive/Print Spooler/Graphics board HDOS 2 & CP/M 2.2.03/2.2.04

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DEC xx2247 keys

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

> > My local keycutting shop cut a copy for just a little less than that. > > The key style is quite standard. The trick, of course, is getting the > > first one :-) > > Not really... the point of the XX2247 is that a full-service locksmith > should be able to cross-reference that to a set of key depths, Finding a good locksmith who can do that isn't all that easy over here. > Another word to the wise on DEC keys - if you have a newer PDP-11 > (11/24, for example) or a newer keyed VAX (like my 8200) with the > *plastic* lock body - there are no tumblers. A key blank will > operate your machine - DEC shipped an orangish-red plastic key > with those systems, but the older keys (or a blank) will turn the > lock. The plastic keys are actually a slightly different size. All the ones I've seen are beige plastic (but they may be slightly later, mostly >from Alphas). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Differential SCSI vs. SE ?

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

All, Doc writes: > I have a couple of DEC Wide-FWD conversion modules. P/N DWZZA-VA > Look 'em up, and if that fits your bill, I'll send you one for > shipping costs. I looked at the DEC StorageWorks documentation, and it seems that I will need the following: :: DWZZB is a Fast Wide Differential to Fast Wide Single-Ended SCSI :: bus extender and signal converter. It is 8 or 16 bit Fast Wide :: Differential SCSI on one side and an 8 or 16 bit single-ended :: SCSI on the other side. DWZZB is SCSI-3 (ANSI X3T9.2-10R3) :: compliant, can handle data rates up to 20 (16-bit) MB per second, :: and operates transparently to SCSI bus. The product fully supports :: all the latest SCSI-3 bus phases as well as all earlier standard :: SCSI compatible implementations, back to SASI. :: :: DWZZB is bi-directional in operation and can be cascaded. A :: maximum of two can be attached to a bus in a series. Termination :: on the single-ended side is user selectable. The 16-bit fast wide :: differential side features user removable resistors. DWZZB handles :: the more powerful 16-bit SCSI buses as well as 8-bit buses and :: handles data rates up to 20 MB per second on Fast SCSI. It is :: fully compatible with 2- to 5 MB per second data rates of earlier :: SCSI interconnects. It extends SCSI buses from 3 or 6 meters to 25 :: meters using synchronous transfers. :: :: DWZZB can be used to connect the widening range of available :: differential SCSI storage devices and subsystems to single-ended :: hosts. No changes are required to existing devices or software; :: the DWZZB does not occupy a SCSI bus node According to the document, I'd need the :: DWZZB-AA Standalone Product-includes built-in universal power :: supply for general purpose SCSI bus length and signal :: conversion needs, can be used with any SCSI-2 :: compatible device. or the :: DWZZB-MA Module for OEM use-includes basic module that operates :: at 20 MB per second and is fully ANSI compliant for :: embedded applications (power suppler and packaging to :: be ordered separately by OEM or system integrator). Does anyone have some of these available? Thanks bunches, Fred

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cool find.

by cvisors＠carnagevisors.net

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Okay cool find for the day. I just got myself an Indigo2 R8000. and the cool thing is I actually got a copy of IRIX 6.5 with it, I now have IRIX media Yay! it also has another network card installed in the machine, plus some video capture board, but unfortunately with out the breakout box. at present just installing Irix on this machine, as the original install had /usr as a NFS share.. anyway a nice machine to add to my collection of way too much stuff. (already been told off from the significant other about it ;) ) - ----------------- I saw two shooting stars last night I wished on them but they were only satellites Is it wrong to wish on space hardware? I wish, I wish, I wish you'd care Billy Bragg 1983 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBPjIaTfy2mMMkIDolEQK/0QCgpgQL5RY0/DryJhn0ju+KIEKoBLYAnjwW ebh4IcpZkOC/Y7x/oVklGubG =sWny -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Sun tapes

by aw288＠osfn.org

I have a bunch of old Sun tapes I need to get rid of, as I no longer run any Sun-3 or Sun-4 machines. Most of these are real Sun distributions (although they look cheesy) of SunOS 4.1 and 4.1.1, plus SunLink and Openwindows. There also might be some third party stuff. I think all of these tapes actually have data on them, but I no longer have a suitable tape drive to verify them (so maybe expect a few to be flakey). Anyone need these tapes (about 13 1/4" QIC-24, I think) for cheap? For the lot - $8 plus shipping for 10512? I thik I also have quite a few unused 1/4" tape carts, also cheap. Real cheap. Contact me off list... William Donzelli aw288(a)osfn.org

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DEC xx2247 keys

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 13, 9:37, John Allain wrote: > > The plastic keys are actually a slightly different size. All the > > ones I've seen are beige plastic (but they may be slightly > > later, mostly from Alphas). > > For reference I have two DEC plastic keys here: > 1217119-01 grey marked "'digital' and 'Anti Static' > 1217606-0-0 blue marked "'digital' and 'REMOTE' > > the keying part is just a single tooth on a 1cm cylinder. > > The first is for BA213,BA215 cabinets (at least), > they work in pre-alpha uVIII's. > The blue key is for other purposes I don't know of yet. The first is what fits my 11/24. Mine say "Anti Static" too. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Differential SCSI vs. SE ?

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

All, Now that I inherited a nice set of StorageWorks enclusures with an HSZ40C controller, I might as well use it, no? I plan on connecting it to the primary file server of my "fun" network (also known as VAXlab, aka pdp11.nl) so I'll have more (and safer) storage there. Only prob is.. the HSZ40C has a diff-scsi port, whereas the machines have SE. Is this easily converted with a cable, or will I be doing resistor- balancing and/or use a signal converter box? Thx, Fred

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