- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by chu＠verizon.net

I have gotten my PDP 11/73 to start up and go through an initialization script for RSX-11Mplus. However, I do not know any uids/passwords, so I cannot login; I can only watch the script go by. I am able, while the script is running, to break into MCR and run commands like PDP and DMP. I am able to dump in octal some of the files like [0,0]001054.DIR;1. Does anyone know where the user names/passwords are stored? My memory says that the maybe they are not encrypted? Is that so? TIA, DAve Chu

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DHV11 on BSD2.9

by chpap＠ics.forth.gr

I have read in a message by Steve Schultz that there are 2.9BSD drivers for the DHV11-A around. Can I still find them?

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KNOCK IT OFF people

by jwest＠kwcorp.com

Yes, cctalk is not the totally off-topic free zone that cctech is. However, do NOT interpret that as a "anything goes" policy. I've sat back and watched the past few days of crap threads and I'm a little tired of it. More importantly, I've received numerous complaints. OFF topic posts on cctalk ARE ok. But I think we're all adult enough to know what is pushing the envelope. Sure, go off topic, that's what this list is for. But extended threads on religion, politics, etc. that are little more than pi**ing contests are just off-base. Thanks Jay West

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Help ID this board...

by cb＠mythtech.net

> There is only one sticker on the card >that says "1990 LTI; All Rights Reserved; I believe LTI is Lapis Technologies. They made video cards for the Mac. I would guess it is probably a video card of some kind. Many of the older full page display cards had 9 pin connectors. I don't know if they used a standard video output or if they had to go to the monitor they were meant for. >Since the board is blue, I figured that its >probably a prototype of something, maybe a video card? Probably just artistic license on coloring the board. I have seen blue video cards before in the Mac. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Identifying a Motorola chip - MC14544?( OT)(actually grass ai rports)

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

> Ethan wrote > >> Any help would be greatly appreciated; Particularly since the people > that > >> own the property have sold off the end of the strip to a local farmer > who > >> keeps cows there... And the other pilots are a bit too soft to leap the > >> fence and wander through a herd of cattle in the middle of the night > just > >> to turn on the lamps... > > > >I've been to a strip in NW Ohio, Fremont, that has a grass strip butting > >into a narrow asphalt strip in a Tee shape... the State airport guide > >warns that cows may be present on the grass runway and to perform a > >flyover before attempting a landing there. > > I live across the street for an inactive grass field, main problem for > pilots was deer > and dogs on the runway. We could never fly kites or launch Estes rockets > this close to an airport. > I once had my dinner interrupted by a pilot who crashed and walked up to > the house and asked to > use the telephone. His Globe Swift's alternator had failed. He couldn't > manually crank down the > landing gear and wanted to land on grass to save the plane. Now we have a > sixty acre park, we > still mow the runway, great for walking dogs and exercise, no cars > allowed. Occasional wood chucks, > deer, turkeys, and foxes however. > > Mike

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3 BC26V-12 cables available

by stuart＠stuartsjohnsonfamily.net

I recently received a bunch of stuff, including 3 each BC26V-12 SI disk cables, frequently used with RA60, RA80, etc. disk drives. I have no use for them, so if anyone wants them, they are available for the shipping expense. Contact me off list if you are interested, tell me how many (1-3) you want. These cables came from my previous employer and were removed some years ago >from working equipment (that I decommissioned when I worked there) and should be fully usable. First come first served. Regards, Stuart Johnson ssj152 AT charter DOT net // should be obvious how to fix email address

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Felix CE 801 Calculator

by stefan＠softhome.net

Is anybody interested in buying a Felix CE 801 calculator ? I haven't tested it yet, charging some batteries, but when I have done that I will let you know. The date is probably 1975, and its made in Romania. Stefan.

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cctalk digest, Vol 1 #479 - 54 msgs

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

> Blah blah. More inanity from Al. No response to > my last message in which I asked for replies to > specific questions and issues that I raised. <Snipped rest of the rant....> I decided to stop feeding the troll... Regards, Al Hartman (Macintosh Emulation List Host) http://www.topica.com/lists/MacEmuList My Homepage http://www.geocities.com/alhartman Enlightenment means taking full responsibility for your life. - William Blake

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Info wanted: IBM vacuum tube digital computer demonstrator

by massimo.vettore＠zf.com

On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Joe wrote: >Yes, that's the item but I'm pretty certain that he's wrong about it being a > field engineer's test set. A couple of list members have tracked down several > of these but no docs yet. Hi The diagrams of the plugglable units should be available at: http://www.piercefuller.com/collect/ibmpu/ Max

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PDP-11/04 on Ebay - whats wrong with it?

by David.Kane＠aph.gov.au

Hi, A PDP-11/04 on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=3403225 748&rd=1 I have to start by stating I am in Australia. Our dollar might have crept back up to a smidgen over 60 cents US today, but the opening bid on the PDP will still be considerable, then add international shipping and ooooooh ouch. But despite all that I am still toying with the idea of bidding on the item. I do need a little assistance before making a definitive decision. For those unaware the item was listed before recently but was passed in unbid. I did not get interested last time since the description did not list a CPU card, and the seller did not reply to an enquiry regarding a CPU card. I notice that this time there is a CPU card listed (M7263). My quandary is over the seller's comment that the "Unit powers up and reads 0002777" although the pictures have it reading 000277. My worry is that the unit is severely broken. Can any take a stab at guessing what might be wrong, is it possibly just the lack of a boot device (floppy of hard disk)? David Kane

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Have VAXStation II/GPX & Intel iPDS and need an Intel MDS 225/230

by melamy＠earthlink.net

Hi all, I am trying to accelerate my plans to get my Intel MDS up and running... I have a VAXStation II/GPX with two monitors, mouse and keyboard. I think I have all the docs and disks for it also. It belonged to a friend who gave it to me because he was just going to throw it out. It was working for him, but I don't know the first thing about getting it running or do I really want to take on another project. What I am looking for is to use it in trade for an Intel MDS 225/230 development system. I don't need software or manuals for the MDS (I have all that). I don't even need any of the ICE modules. I also have an Intel iPDS with software that I would consider in trade also. Any one interested? Best regards, Steve Thatcher Seattle area, Washington state

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Book available

by anheier＠owt.com

I am cleaning out some more stuff and have the following books available: Learning IBM Basic, David Lien, 1984 An Introduction to the Basic Language, John Skelton 1971 Understanding Telephone Electronics, Radio Shack, John Fike, 1983 How to Program and Interface the 6800, Andrew Staugard, 1987 $5 each + shipping. Thanks Norm

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DEC disk drive power consumption (was Re: QBUS SCSI

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> in my BA123 and get away from the RQDX3. If I thought I had enough room > in a BA23 for the KDA50 and enough cards to make it worth the effort, > I'd consider that, but between cabling and power consumption, I don't I don't think you can put a KDA50 in a BA23, isn't the reason that "Corporate Cabinets" have dual BA23's in the rack so that you've got enough power for everything? At least I seem to remember reading that was the reason. Zane

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On topic: Invention & Technology

by jrasite＠eoni.com

In the newest issue of American Heritage of Invention & Technology magazine (Spring, 2003.) there is an article on the Houston Spaceflight Center. In it it details the history of the MCC from its inception to February 1, 2003. Included in this history are details of the systems used to control the United States manned spaceflight program. (Originally (5) IBM 7094s). All in all a most interesting article. Pick up a copy at your local large chain bookstore. Or subscribe! <http://www.americanheritage.com/it/index.shtml> Jim -- If there is light in the soul, there will be beauty in the person. If there is beauty in the person, there will be harmony in the house. If there is harmony in the house, there will be order in the nation. If there is order in the nation, there will be peace in the world. ~ Chinese Proverb ~

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Univac III on eBay

by Innfogra＠aol.com

> but I am looking for serious bidders." > He wants real money. I think it will not bring his reserve price which I bet is at least $5000, probably more. I do not expect it to sell. It would be interesting to see what his reserve actually is. I base my reserve price estimate on what he wants just to handle the machine for shipping. This thing is not going to get scrapped, he has had it for decades. He will sit on it longer if he doesn't get what he wants. Stored in a semitrailer is good. It looks dry, just dusty. And some looks like it was stored with stretch wrap. It should be in good physical condition. Note that the seller's feedback is (1) which means he is subject to fits of unrealistic expectations. Paxton Astoria, OR

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G.W.Bush a liar?

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

> Well, I was trying to be good and not pique the ire > of my neighbors to the south in my mother's and > wife's birthplace, but I find I can't hold my peace > at the incredible amount of BS, most of which is > parroting the Bush administrations lies and more > damnedable lies. I'm not aware of ANY lies by the current administration, no less "lies and more damnedable lies" Also, you can't hold this administration responsible for the misdeeds of past administrations. In fact, I'd call the previous administration one of the most dishonest and criminal administrations this country has ever had. Luckily our system of government is such that people like this cannot remain in power for too long. As for the rest of what you say, I don't have any data for or against it. America is a representative republic. Not quite a democracy. And yes, the government does things that the people don't necessarily like or agree to. Given that, I still believe we have the free-est and best form of government on the planet. It is not corruption or mistake free. Nor is it free of the normal human expressions of greed, ego, hatred, and agression. It's still head and shoulders above all other government systems on the planet. Considering the broad areas in which the U.S. is invlolved in, the huge amount of AID it gives to the rest of the world, you have to see that basically we are a good country. I would like it to be perfect, but that's not possible in human affairs. It could certainly be better. And what I like about Bush and his administration is that he got right to the task of setting right all the wrongs of previous administrations he could find and fix. I know he will be relected in 2004 with a landslide. It's a shame he can't run for a third term. Cheney will probably not be able (or willing) to run for President in 2008. Before the election, and before I saw Bush in action. I was sure he'd be a one term President and that Hillary Clinton or maybe Al Gore would run in 2004 and take back the Presidency for the Democrats. Now, I'm sure that won't happen. It's amazing that you can call a liar, a man whose reputation is largely made by his truthfulness and trustworthyness. As Governor of Texas he kept most all of his promises. And left the state in a much better condition than it was when he took office. You may not like his policies, or his decisions. But, that doesn't make him a liar. Regards, Al

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Univac III on eBay

by ekklein＠pacbell.net

This is truly amazing. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3403344993 I have no affiliation with this auction whatsoever. I do wonder what my wife would say if I bought this, though. "Honey, clear out the guest room, I have a mainframe coming!" Erik S. Klein www.vintage-computer.com

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Need Read-It! v1.02 and/or v1.1 OCR software/manual by Olduvai (for Mac)

by vcf＠siconic.com

I'm looking for a copy of Read-It! v1.02 and/or v1.1 by Olduvai (for the Macintosh). This is OCR software circa 1987-1988. The important thing is the manual. I don't really need the software at this point. There i$ a bounty for thi$. If you have this then please contact me directly at <sellam(a)vintage.org>. Thanks! -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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was Re: Identifying a Motolora chip -now OT Elk on runway

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 2/24/03 11:21:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, mike(a)ambientdesign.com writes: > It's also interesting to hear that cows on the runway isn't only a New > Zealand phenomenon... > > We lost a Lear Jet here at the Warrenton, Oregon Airport when it hit a 1500 pound Roosevelt Elk halfway down the runway on an early morning takeoff last October. Totally trashed the Lear Jet, the Elk was in 500 pieces but the pilot and passengers were OK and able to get out of the plane before it totally burned. We had a herd of about 50 Elk living on the airport flats. Now they have an Elk proof fence that I swear will cause hard drives to fail when you drive across the grat-t-t-t-ting to get to our local UPS drop off center. The Lear Jet was over 10 years old so to get this on topic does anyone know if the older Lear Jets used computers and what kind? Paxton Astoria, OR

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QBUS SCSI card...

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> The truth is, if you are willing to wait, I've even seen some go as low as > the $40+ > to $60+ range? With some, condition might be poor, or they may not be > operational > and be being sold as is, but they might also be just fine. That's the eBay > gamble. I > do remember the MTI QTS-25 I had sold on eBay a couple of years ago to > Zane went for only $50 The thing to remember is that the controllers in that price range are tape only. For example, that MTI QTS-25 was tape only as I recall (or to put it another way, I don't recall buying any SCSI controllers on eBay that weren't tape only :^) The jump in value from Tape only to disk only is pretty huge, then there is a lesser jump in value from Disk only to Disk/Tape. Zane

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DEC disk drive power consumption (was Re: QBUS SCSI card...)

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> --- Doc Shipley <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> wrote: > > I do know that my MVIII uses a hack of a lot less power booting off a > > remote disk than it did spinning up 3 MFM drives. I can only assume > > that the RAxx use even more juice. > > Dunno about anything as new as an RA9x, but the RA81 draws 30A surge > current (which is why they have that daisy-chain power sequencer port), > and 8A steady-state. That's a big honkin' motor in there, plus several > square feet of controllers. I'd recommend RA7x instead. The RA9x drives are 8", while the RA7x drives are 5.25". Zane

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Fwd: Free to good home VRT-19

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

Posted to comp.sys.dec, please respond directly to jfedorko(a)rangersys.com > Subject: Free to good home VRT-19 > From: "Joel" <jfedorko(a)rangersys.com> > Date: Sun, Feb 23, 2003 17:03 EST > Message-id: <1Yacnbd0keSd28SjXTWckQ(a)giganews.com> > > Free to good home, a DEC VRT19 worked fine the last time I powered it up (2 > years ago). I need the space. > Available for pickup between Baltimore and DC. > > Drop me a note a jfedorko(a)rangersys.com if you are interested.

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TU58 Emulation (was: M9312 Bootstrap Questions)

by jss＠subatomix.com

Frank Arnold wrote: > I hope you can boot anything else, do you have a DL11-W? You could use > this with a PeeCee emulated TU58 for diagnostics ect. Two questions. First, has anyone here emulated a TU58 successfully in software? I searched through the archives and found lots of posts that say "you could" and none that say "I did". If it's doable, what software should I use? I found this: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/computer-science/history/pdp-11/utils/t… Second, where do I get the diagnostics to load over the emulated TU58? -- Jeffrey Sharp

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SCSI cards

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

At 02:37 PM 2/24/03 -0500, you wrote: >What was the name of the German company? I don't remember :( I wish I still had my Rainbow hardware guide, they were listed in there :(

23 years, 1 month

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HP1000 F & A700 - pictures

by aek＠spies.com

Does anyone have access to a set of F-series manuals, especially installation reference manuals? -- I have over 100 manuals for HP's 16 bit series. Most have been scanned some are up at www.spies.com/aek/pdf/hp Unfortunately, with the exception of the FE handbooks, HP tended to put out dozens of small manuals which scatters the information that you need out all over the place.

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HP1000 F & A700 - pictures

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

Look here: http://www.spies.com/~aek/pdf/hp/1000/ When you open the front panel of the HP1000F does it have a sticker inside with 1 - 4 numbers of the form 12992A - 12992L ? Those are the loader ROM part numbers. Take a look at the document 12992-90001_loaderRomsApr86.pdf which describes the various loader ROMs which you may have installed in your CPU. The document also describes how to load and execute the loader ROMs. >From: Adrian Vickers <avickers(a)solutionengineers.com> > >2) Does anyone have access to a set of F-series manuals, especially >installation reference manuals? If so, are they in electronic format; if >not, can you/they bear to part with them for at least as long as it will >take me to scan them?

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Epson HX-20 Question

by chriss＠kingston.net

Hi Tony, Saw your posts on the net regarding HX-20's. I was wondering if you would be able to give me a couple pointers. I picked a hx-20 up a few years ago, and am now getting a chance to play with it. I have downloaded and read the 3 PDF's on Epson's site. I have not been able to find a copy of the BASIC Tutorial. I have a ROM installed in the _bottom_ of the unit. Not in the expansion slot, which is filled with the Cassette Unit. Should the ROM be autodetected, or does it have to be loaded? If loaded, how to I load it? I have not been able to get things working experimenting with LOAD "PAC0" and "LOAD PAC1". When I first powered the HX-20 up years ago, it had a 3rd option, but then I initialized it and of course, it is now gone. Thanks in advance. ChriS

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Identifying a Fujitsu chip - MB15140?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Wow! You guys are good. Maybe you can help me. I need some Fujitsu chip information. I have a bunch of Fujitsu MB15140 CR-G with a date code of 8809 I would like to know what they are. Picture at http://members.aol.com/innfosale/MB15140A.JPG I got them from Fujitsu, Hillsboro, OR, when they were discontinuing the 14" & 8" drive lines there. I suspect they are related to the 23XX 8" hard drives but am not sure. Fujitsu made quite a few products there, POS stuff too. Thanks for the help. Paxton Astoria, OR

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Identifying a Motolora chip - MC14544?

by doug_jackson＠citadel.com.au

Wasn't that chip used in the Tandy TRS-80 Model 100 machines. I remember playing with the Band Pass filters to convince the TRS-80 to work with CCITT tones, instaed of the Bell tones that were used in USA. That was a while ago Boy, did I get myself into strife with the campus computer manager with that little 300 baud modem. Doug Jackson Director, Managed Security Services Citadel Securix +61 (0)2 6290 9011 (Ph) +61 (0)2 6262 6152 (Fax) +61 (0)414 986 878 (Mobile) Web: <www.citadel.com.au> Offices in Melbourne, Sydney, Canberra, Hong Kong, Boston CAUTION - The information in this message may be of a privileged or confidential nature intended only for the use of the addressee or someone authorised to receive the addressee's e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify postmaster(a)citadel.com.au. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Citadel Securix. Feel free to visit the Citadel Securix website! Click below. http://www.citadel.com.au

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M9312 Bootstrap Questions

by fm.arnold＠gmx.net

cctech-request(a)classiccmp.org schrieb am 24.02.2003: Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:48:36 +0100 From: Andreas Freiherr <Andreas.Freiherr(a)Vishay.com> Subject: Re: M9312 Bootstrap Questions >Jeffrey, > >are you sure the 11/34 manual is talking about the M9312? - I seem to >remember that my copy describes the M9301, of which, IIRC, there are >-YA, -YB, and -YF versions. > >Since all M9301s are completely different from the M9312, it would be no >surprise if you cannot match the switches between docs and hardware... > >Andreas > >Jeffrey Sharp wrote: >> Ok, I got my PDP-11/34 mounted in its rack and have started to audit >> jumpers, switches, etc. I am being cornfused by the M9312 bootstrap >> terminator module. >> >> First, I'm confused about what version of the module I have. My 11/34 user's >> manual (EK-11034-UG-001 '77) talks about a -YA, -YB, and -YF version of the >> board. My M9312 manual (EK-M9312-TM-003 '81) talks only in terms of >> bootstrap ROM part numbers. The DIP switch references in the two documents >> conflict, even differing on the switch settings necessary just to boot into >> the console emulator. >----------<snip>----------- thinking back some 18-20 years, you are right on this comment that the -YA -Yb -YF variationd appley to the M9301 only, that module has no easy upgradable proms, but standard multiboot configurations. The keydifference is that M9312 stores one PDP11 instruction in 4 consecutive nibbles of the prom, therefoere 1 Prom = 1 Bootdevice. The 9301 has a conventional structure where the 4 proms are placed adjacent and each prom provides 4 bits of the program. Therefore if you modify the 9301, all 4 proms must be changed at the same time. I had to do it once, adding a new device to the boot routine, splitting it into the roms, burn those and get it to work, and I remember it was a tedious job. Frank

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Fw: old alpha in the bay area (free)

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

----- Original Message ----- From: "seph" <seph(a)commerceflow.com> To: <port-alpha(a)netbsd.org> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 2:07 PM Subject: old alpha in the bay area (free) > I have an old alpha I want to get rid of, I really don't want to have > to throw it away. It lives at my house, in the bay area. If you'll > come and get it, it's free. It does work, I installed netbsd onto it > awhile back. > > It's missing its model tag, but I believe it's an old dec3000. here's > what I do know: > > it's turbo channel > > it's not small (about the size of a full pc tower) > > it's got 4 disks. 3 rz25s and 1 rz26 > > it's got 256 megs of RAM. > > it comes with a monitor. a sony gdm 1926 (yes, you have to take the > monitor) > > it has a cdrom (caddy based, I have caddies) > > it has a tape drive I don't recognize. > > > If for reason there's an overwealming response, I'll be swayed by > useage and how soon people can pick it up. > > please reply to me, I'm not subbed to the list. > > seph

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Univac III on eBay

by aek＠spies.com

I just put up three docs at www.spies.com/aek/pdf/univac/univac3 that will tell you more than you ever wanted to know about the Univac III One of the reasons it wasn't very popular was they didn't maintain backwards software compatibility with the I and II on the III.

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Trivia Question

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

A real computer doesn't know what the square root of negative one is? :-P -----Original Message----- From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 1:33 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Trivia Question On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Hans B Pufal wrote: > > If I write a PC emulator that runs on a real computer, does the computer > > become not real? > Or does my PDP-9 emulator running on my PC make IT 'a real computer'. I It significantly enhances its reality coefficient. But a REAL computer has casters, (or a forklift) A REAL computer dims the lights during power-up (for the NEIGHBORHOOD) A REAL computer attracts attention from the Fatherland Security.

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QBUS SCSI card...

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

Hello Gene, Even though RD-5x fit in there fine, what is probably an inexpensive but more reliable solution than the RD-5x is to go with 5.25" FH ESDI drives as some other "personal users" have done. They come in larger storage capacities than the RD-5x drives too. Pick up a Sigma SCD-RQD11/EC when it shows up on eBay for around $35 to $50 ( or even less these days? ), and ask Mark Green about an ESDI drive. He got all four ( some of them around 600 Mb ) that I had a couple of years ago for what would have averaged out to $10 each ( plus shipping ). Best Regards At 06:57 AM 2/24/03 -0800, you wrote: > > > That's just amazing. I never knew the demand for those things was that > > > high. I wish the guy that was doing the IDE controllers had entered > > > production. :) > > > > I think a lot of people, "personal users" too, are getting tired of > struggling > > with RD-5x drive unreliability, and/or want the larger storage capacities > > they could obtain with SCSI > >Well I've got a KDA-50 board set so I'm not _totally_ out in the cold, but >it sure would be nice to use a drive that a) wasn't 150lbs (RA81) and b) >wasn't 3 feet long (RA92). Neither of which fit in the BA123(? nice >roll-around chassis, card cage is on the right side) enclosures that my 2 >MicroVAXen use. > >g.

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Semi-OT: Wanted - Vacuum Tube Protyping Boards

by bill＠timeguy.com

A friend of mine is getting heavily into building radios, digital clocks (using nixie tubes and/or miniature vector displays), etc. from tubes. I've been thinking that some of those nifty prototyping boards like we used in high school would be great for him to use for testing new designs. The ones I used had a base made of clear plastic with an array of holes in the top which lead in sets of 5 or so to a common set of metal contacts. There were dozens of sets of contacts on each board. The tubes were mounted in sockets on small squares of PC board with traces leading to pins along the edges. These pins would plug into holes on the base, and you would plug wires into the other holes on the same contact strip to connect something to that pin. There were also inductors, variable caps, pots, etc. on small boards. Any idea where I might be able to buy something like this setup these days?

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HP Apollo 710

by jacqui＠newcorp.co.uk

Hi I'm looking at buying a HP Apollo 9000 Model 710 32MB, can you give me a price to buy?? Thanks Jacqui NEWCORP SERVICES Tel: 01477 505615 Fax: 01477 500242 email: jacqui(a)newcorp.co.uk www.newcorp.co.uk

23 years, 1 month

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MVME 333-2

by Mark.Meyrick＠beck-pollitzer.com

Dear Sir, We have a client who is desperate to purchase an MVME 333-2, can you give me an idea of where I might get hold of one of these. We regularly get requests to find old XVME equipment so please keep me informed of any equipment you aquire and I will do the same. Best regards Mark Meyrick Technical Project Manager Beck & Pollitzer Control Systems Tel: 0044 1621 890310 Fax: 0044 1621 890319 ________________________________________________________________________ This message is intended solely for the use of the individual or organisation to whom it is addressed. It may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please notify the originator immediately. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not use, copy, alter, or disclose the contents of this message. All information or opinions expressed in this message and/or any attachments are those of the author and are not necessarily those of Beck & Pollitzer Engineering Ltd. Beck & Pollitzer Engineering Ltd accepts no responsibility for loss or damage arising >from its use, including damage from virus. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all known viruses by MessageLabs. ________________________________________________________________________

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Identifying a Motolora chip - MC14544?

by jplist＠kiwigeek.com

Howdy folks; I'm trying to identify a Motorola chip for my father - his guess is a 300 baud modem... The chip comes from circuitry which allows folks to remotely control the lights on a runway. All of the breakers/generators are in a little shed at the end of the runway, but there is a controller board in the tower to allow you to turn on lights without having to trek down to the shed... Unfortunately said controller is broken, and my old man has tracked it down to this chip. Any help would be greatly appreciated; Particularly since the people that own the property have sold off the end of the strip to a local farmer who keeps cows there... And the other pilots are a bit too soft to leap the fence and wander through a herd of cattle in the middle of the night just to turn on the lamps... Thanks! JP

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"Real Computers" (was Re: Trivia Question)

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

The Osborne 1. -----Original Message----- From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 2:27 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: "Real Computers" (was Re: Trivia Question) <snip> How many CP/M machines provided both schematics and source code?

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BA123 and disks (RE: QBUS SCSI card...)

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

True, the various ESDI disks are proving to be a fine and reliable replacement for the RD drives, using the same form factor. My MV4 (in a BA123) has three Hitachi drives, 680MB each, and are emulated as RA82's. Nice, reliable and _fast_ ! These drives, and the controllers (Sigma, ADC, Emulex, Dilog) are real cheap now. --f > -----Original Message----- > From: Mail List [mailto:mail.list@analog-and-digital-solutions.com] > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:38 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: QBUS SCSI card... > > > Hello Gene, > > Even though RD-5x fit in there fine, what is probably an inexpensive > but more reliable solution than the RD-5x is to go with 5.25" FH > ESDI drives as some other "personal users" have done. They > come in larger storage capacities than the RD-5x drives too. > Pick up a Sigma SCD-RQD11/EC when it shows up on eBay > for around $35 to $50 ( or even less these days? ), and ask > Mark Green about an ESDI drive. He got all four ( some of them > around 600 Mb ) that I had a couple of years ago for what would > have averaged out to $10 each ( plus shipping ). > > > Best Regards > > > > > At 06:57 AM 2/24/03 -0800, you wrote: > > > > That's just amazing. I never knew the demand for > those things was that > > > > high. I wish the guy that was doing the IDE > controllers had entered > > > > production. :) > > > > > > I think a lot of people, "personal users" too, are > getting tired of > > struggling > > > with RD-5x drive unreliability, and/or want the larger > storage capacities > > > they could obtain with SCSI > > > >Well I've got a KDA-50 board set so I'm not _totally_ out in > the cold, but > >it sure would be nice to use a drive that a) wasn't 150lbs > (RA81) and b) > >wasn't 3 feet long (RA92). Neither of which fit in the BA123(? nice > >roll-around chassis, card cage is on the right side) > enclosures that my 2 > >MicroVAXen use. > > > >g.

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Info wanted: IBM vacuum tube digital computer demonstrator

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Yes, that's the item but I'm pretty certain that he's wrong about it being a field engineer's test set. A couple of list members have tracked down several of these but no docs yet. Joe At 04:42 PM 2/24/03 +0100, you wrote: >On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Joe wrote: > >> Can anyone tell me more about this thing or even (HOPEFULLY) have a >> manual for it? > >Hi Joe > >Could be this one: >http://www.newbegin.com/itemmis_28.html > >Max

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Info wanted: IBM vacuum tube digital computer demonstrator

by massimo.vettore＠zf.com

On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Joe wrote: > Can anyone tell me more about this thing or even (HOPEFULLY) have a > manual for it? Hi Joe Could be this one: http://www.newbegin.com/itemmis_28.html Max

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M9312 Bootstrap Questions

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Well, my 11/34C has the M9312 in it. See www.pdp-11.nl and click on the folder PDP-11/34A. Inside that folder is a folder called CPU information, in there is the folder options, and the last item is the document "bootstrap" (M9312). Maybe that's a little help. I have a scan of the M9312 manual and also of the M9301 manual wich will be at Jay's in a few weeks ... - Henk. > -----Original Message----- > From: Andreas Freiherr [mailto:Andreas.Freiherr@Vishay.com] > Sent: maandag 24 februari 2003 13:49 > To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: M9312 Bootstrap Questions > > > Jeffrey, > > are you sure the 11/34 manual is talking about the M9312? - I seem to > remember that my copy describes the M9301, of which, IIRC, there are > -YA, -YB, and -YF versions. > > Since all M9301s are completely different from the M9312, it > would be no > surprise if you cannot match the switches between docs and hardware... > > Andreas > > Jeffrey Sharp wrote: > > Ok, I got my PDP-11/34 mounted in its rack and have started to audit > > jumpers, switches, etc. I am being cornfused by the M9312 bootstrap > > terminator module. > > > > First, I'm confused about what version of the module I > have. My 11/34 user's > > manual (EK-11034-UG-001 '77) talks about a -YA, -YB, and > -YF version of the > > board. My M9312 manual (EK-M9312-TM-003 '81) talks only in terms of > > bootstrap ROM part numbers. The DIP switch references in > the two documents > > conflict, even differing on the switch settings necessary > just to boot into > > the console emulator. > ... > > -- > Andreas Freiherr > Vishay Semiconductor GmbH, Heilbronn, Germany > http://www.vishay.com

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QBUS SCSI card...

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

Gene, I took a look at the CTP dealer listing index, and the current listed prices for UC08's run from a low of $300 to a high of $750 Out of the 12 listed that have prices showing, the average is $511.25 There was a UC07 recently on eBay in the UK that sold for GBP 252.00 (currently approx. US $397.91 ) EMULEX UCO7 Q-BUS SCSI CONTROLLER FOR DEC http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=2307510324 With variations in exchange rate, that US equivalent was about $420 on the day it closed. Best Regards At 09:49 PM 2/23/03 -0800, Gene Buckle wrote: >Why is it that the UC08 SCSI controller on ePay right now is going for a >buy-it of$799? Are QBUS SCSI controllers THAT rare? I was going to try >to find one for my MicroVAX II, but not for that kind of dosh.... > >tnx. > >g.

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Transitional Technology Qbus SCSI controller

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

Hello, I just received this inquiry from a "personal use" user about a card that I am not familiar with. If any of you want to help him out, his address is included. Wasn't someone asking about a differential scsi controller lately? If he'd have better use for a single-ended, and someone else needed a differential, perhaps you'd have a trade. Best Regards From: Robertdkeys(a)aol.com Message-ID: <54.b0c1e41.2b8b0e5b(a)aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 00:57:47 EST Subject: QTD-1 qbus diff scsi board - you folks know anything about??? Since you folks deal in legacy qbus things, I was wondering if you might know anything about a Transitional Technology, Inc., model QTD-1 differential mscp/tmscp scsi controller? I have one that a friend sent me, to use in an MVII machine, but I can't seem to find out any information anywhere about the board. It is dated 1989, but must have been made by one of the lesser qbus card manufacturers. If you know anything about this particular board, I would be most interested in finding out the particulars, so I can get this thing running. Thanks R.D. Keys robertdkeys(a)aol.com

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PDP11 - RQDX1 standalone format utility?

by chpap＠ics.forth.gr

I would like to do a bad sector scan on a RD52 connected to a RQDX1 controller (The machine is a pdp11/73 without OS) prior to installing BSD2.11.Is there a standalone program like zrqch0(standalone version of zrqc from the xxdp package - only for RQDX3) that can be downloaded directly to the pdp via vtserver and recognizes the RQDX1 , i.e. a version of zrqb or something similar?

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Info wanted: IBM vacuum tube digital computer demonstrator

by mranalog＠attbi.com

Joe wrote: > > Can anyone tell me more about this thing or even (HOPEFULLY) have a > > manual for it? Joe, 1948 IBM 604 Computer Engineers Field Unit Price $6000 http://www.newbegin.com/itemmis_28.html --Doug ========================================= Doug Coward @ home in Poulsbo, WA Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/analog =========================================

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G.W.Bush a liar?

by homeranonymous＠netscape.net

Well said. Ditto all the following: > I'm not aware of ANY lies by the current > administration, no less "lies and more damnedable > lies" > > Also, you can't hold this administration responsible > for the misdeeds of past administrations. > > In fact, I'd call the previous administration one of > the most dishonest and criminal administrations this > country has ever had. > > Luckily our system of government is such that people > like this cannot remain in power for too long. > > As for the rest of what you say, I don't have any data > for or against it. > > America is a representative republic. Not quite a > democracy. And yes, the government does things that > the people don't necessarily like or agree to. > > Given that, I still believe we have the free-est and > best form of government on the planet. > > It is not corruption or mistake free. Nor is it free > of the normal human expressions of greed, ego, hatred, > and agression. > > It's still head and shoulders above all other > government systems on the planet. > > Considering the broad areas in which the U.S. is > invlolved in, the huge amount of AID it gives to the > rest of the world, you have to see that basically we > are a good country. > > I would like it to be perfect, but that's not possible > in human affairs. It could certainly be better. And > what I like about Bush and his administration is that > he got right to the task of setting right all the > wrongs of previous administrations he could find and > fix. > > I know he will be relected in 2004 with a landslide. > It's a shame he can't run for a third term. Cheney > will probably not be able (or willing) to run for > President in 2008. > > Before the election, and before I saw Bush in action. > I was sure he'd be a one term President and that > Hillary Clinton or maybe Al Gore would run in 2004 and > take back the Presidency for the Democrats. > > Now, I'm sure that won't happen. > > It's amazing that you can call a liar, a man whose > reputation is largely made by his truthfulness and > trustworthyness. As Governor of Texas he kept most all > of his promises. And left the state in a much better > condition than it was when he took office. > > You may not like his policies, or his decisions. But, > that doesn't make him a liar. > > Regards, > Al

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Not at all Re: TRS-80 Floppy Drive

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Al Hartman <alhartman(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Micros back then were more like cars. You could > customize them heavily. Only now with all these > case-mods and cooling options are we getting back into > what used to be fun about being a Computer Hobbyist. When next I find myself looking at the bizarre heat sink and fan contraptions in modern desktop PCs, I think I will try to think about fenders with fins. The alternative is to think about the J. C. Whitney catalog, and I don't think that's quite appropriate. -Frank McConnell

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Off-topic (John Allain: do not read) Re: cctalk digest, Vol 1 #472 - 25 msgs

by allain＠panix.com

> But that comment was directed at you, so referring > to you as "he" wouldn't work. That comment was: > He actually had the audacity to quote the ten > commandments to someone whose religious > beliefs and oaths contradict many of them, and > try to say that it should be the basis for international > law. He causes me much nausea. I never sent you this. Don't lie about me on the list. Actually, the topmost statement here doesn't even make grammatical sense to me. Is everyone here just sick or something? John A.

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