if one should show up, I'd like to find a Memorex 650/651
drive to try reading some discs someone gave me.
it is hard sectored, with the sector holes on the outside
edge of the disc instead of the inside.
so, im thinning the herd some more, and have had to make a tough
decision... to keep the lispm or not... and ive decided i need to find it
a new home. so, i have for sale, a Symbolics 3650 Lisp Machine. While
some of the gear has been given away, the lispm is one i paid a good bit
of money for (i actually bought it surplus from Symbolics!)
and so this one is for sale. It'll go on ebay soon if there's no interest
here. The machine is fully operational , has a 750 MB disk, 4 megawords
(36 bit word size) of memory, and has Genera 8.3 (the latest version as of
2001) installed. Some pictures of it can be found at the url listed on the
bottom.. just scroll about 2/3 of the way down. I'm asking $800.00.
It's in Pittsburgh, PA, btw.
happy hacking,
Isildur
http://www.vaxpower.org/~isildur/computers.html
Hello all!
I'm restoring a PDP-7 machine to functional condition, pictures at
http://tore.nortia.no. Anyone here ever worked at DEC while this was
happening? Anyone know anything about the PDP-7? I saw a post regarding a
still-functional PDP-7 running a Van der Graaff posted July 2002, but the
poster doesn't reply to my mail. Know where it was?
-Tore
"Pluribus unum, infinitiv thesaurus. Cardio anima stinki latina!"
I just received a HP 1611A Logic Analyzer with Option A65 (6502 uP) and I am
looking for 1) documentation, and 2) how to make the cable from the pod to the
uP socket.
My internet search (Google) turned up - zilch.
If anyone has the operations manual and/or the service manual or knows where
they might exist online, I would appreciate you posting the address or
emailing it to me. If someone has the manuals and would loan them for
scanning, that would be helpful too. Ditto for the manuals for sale.
I'm sure the cable from the pod to the uP socket is quite simple, but as I
haven't seen one in 15+ years, could someone describe it for me? If someone
has one for sale, that would be good too.
I am also interested in acquiring options for this unit:
HP #01611-62107 Microprocessor Logic Probe for 8080A, 9080, and Similar
Chips
HP #10260A Logic Analysis Plug-In Module and HP #01611 62105 Microprocessor
Logic Probe for Z-80A and Similar Chips
HP #01611-62101 External 8 Bit Probes
HP #1540-0325 Accessory Large Carry Case.
or other items not listed.
Many thanks,
Stuart Johnson
OK, a bit of an odd question here, but I'm wondering what people think as I'm used to a PWS 433au.
A co-worker of mine just bought a VAXstation 4000/90 and a DEC 3000/400. She wants to use one of them as a Mail Server running OpenVMS. The VAX looks to have 104MB, the Alpha looks to only have 96MB. Any idea on which would work best for her? Part of what has me concerned is the lack of RAM on the Alpha. If she uses the VAX, it will probably end up running V7.3, if the Alpha probably V7.2-1H1. DECwindows won't be loaded, which will help get the Alpha down to a better memory footprint.
Oh, she'll probably also want to run a Webserver on the system so that the mail can be accessed via the web.
Zane
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Richard,
Do you still have the manual for the above. I am prepared to pay swap borrow whatever to get a copy or sight of it. I have an old BBC hard drive ( in door stop mode)which uses it so it would be really handy.
rgds
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Those picture are all very interesting, but it's the results - or even
better the doing - that is much more interesting to see...
http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/esd.html!
paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Merchberger [mailto:zmerch@30below.com]
Sent: 21 May 2003 18:04
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Revengish URL
Rumor has it that John Lawson may have mentioned these words:
> This is diabolical - evil - reprehensible - unconconsionable -
>sick/twisted - dangerous - damn funny.
>
>http://www.fiftythree.org/etherkiller/
>
>For those who eschew browsers - it's a series of pictures of all the usual
>computer and networking connectors - - - spliced onto AC Mains cords. ;{}
They missed one -- True Story:
I had a lady walk into our store and said she needed a special cable for
her Mac, but didn't know exactly what it was. I showed her several cables
>from our stock, and she verified the port this cable was supposed to plug
into was the USB port, but she was *positive* the other end was supposed to
plug into the wall.
I was [evil ascii grafic follows]:
===>||<===
*this close* to saying "I'd be *more* than happy to wire that up for you,
ma'am!!!"
Imagining her plugging *that* bastage in... that gave all of us here at the
shop quite a chuckle for a good long time...
Laterz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
--
Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers
zmerch(a)30below.com
What do you do when Life gives you lemons,
and you don't *like* lemonade?????????????
I asked my partner, and here's what he came up with about them. Hope it
helps.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 16:41:52 -0500
From: Chris Radek <chris(a)timeguy.com>
To: Bill Richman <bill(a)timeguy.com>
Subject: Re: HP nixie tube module information needed (fwd)
On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 04:24:22PM -0500, Bill Richman wrote:
>
> http://www.ubanproductions.com/Images/nixie1.jpg
> http://www.ubanproductions.com/Images/nixie2.jpg
All I know is they were used in counters. These have a binary to
1-of-10 decoder made out of photoresistors and neon bulbs (!) in
the black box. It's not a HV supply like he guessed.
It should be possible to make a clock but he'll have to modify some
of them to reset before the usual cycle of 0-9. Resetting at
23:59:59 is probably harder and would take some kind of external
logic.
They already have a feedback to make them reset after 9 instead of
counting to 15 - it just has to be modified.
On the other hand if he wants to make a clock, nixies are cheap
and it might be better to just leave the counter modules as-is and
use some logic more suited to counting the time (which is not
10-based).
I'm sorry I don't have a schematic. It should be easy to trace
out - it's just four flip-flops and a feedback line for reset.
>I still have my ZX80 which preceded the Microtan. I
I think they were the other way round. I reckon 1979 for the Tangerine and
1980 for the ZX80. I also drooled over that Microtan and ended up with a
ZX81. By the way, there's a superb website devoted to the Microtan 65 here:
http://www.geoff.org.uk/microtan_65.htm. It's got scans of manuals,
magazines and all sorts.
paul
>Dave.
In a message dated 5/23/03 2:42:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
mikeford(a)socal.rr.com writes:
> So, whats an 8" floppy drive in unknown working state worth?
>
Last I checked Aluminum Breakage is worth 16 cents per pound. Full Height 8"
Floppies weigh about 15 pounds so their scrap value is about $2.40 each.
Most Scrap dealers like to get twice scrap value when they do an outside sale
so a scrap dealer would likely put these drives aside if you offered him $5
each.
Hope this helps.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
On May 22, 11:23, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
> On Thu, 22 May 2003, Ethan Dicks wrote:
>
> > Was it here that I was reading about turning a RadioShack
Desoldering
> > Iron into an SMT hot air tool? The basic gist is that you remove
the
> > rubber bulb, plug in an aquarium pump on a long-enough air hose,
and
> > pack some (stainless) steel wool inside the de-soldering nozzle.
The
> > pump provides continuous air over the steel wool which facilitates
> > heat transfer to get the air temp up to something useful. I have
> > used $800 commercial versions of this at work with great effect.
>
> Sounds cool. I assume at some point you need to change out the steel
> wool?
Probably not for a long time, if at all. Commercial steel wool is
oil-coated to prevent it rusting. Philip described his as going black,
which I expect will be the result of the oil carbonising in the hot air
stream. The result will be a tough coating of carbon that will prevent
oxidation. A similar idea is sometimes used for steel tools -- heat
until it develops a blue oxide layer then plunge into oil. The
resulting blue colour is fairly pretty, and rust-resistant.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Okay guyz - here's your chance to get a late 70's Minicom IV
acoustic-coupled 110Baud data terminal from none other than the the author
of the TTL Cookbook, TV-Typewriter Cookbook, etc.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=2730754787
Don't say I never told ya's nuttin'!
Cheers
John (who built a Lancaster TVT from scratch, on protoboards - it worked)
I have a SparcServer 470 available in south-central PA. It's full of
cards and looks complete. Powers up, but I haven't tested it further.
I'd like to trade it for Apple or DEC equipment, maybe money, or the
stuff listed here: <http://www.applefritter.com/other/wanted.html>.
Also available: SparcServer 690MP rackmount chassis w/power supply. Free.
Tom
Applefritter
www.applefritter.com
>The device pictured in the auction is not a 110 baud terminal.
>It's a 45.5/50 baud TTY device, designed for deaf persons
>(is that the current politically correct term?) to communicate
>with other TTY-equipped parties via telephone.
I thought it looked amazingly like the TTY device my brother has. I just
didn't want to speak up and show my ignorance (I'll do it now when I can
point the finger at someone else as say "he said it first")
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Was it here that I was reading about turning a RadioShack Desoldering
Iron into an SMT hot air tool? The basic gist is that you remove the
rubber bulb, plug in an aquarium pump on a long-enough air hose, and
pack some (stainless) steel wool inside the de-soldering nozzle. The
pump provides continuous air over the steel wool which facilitates
heat transfer to get the air temp up to something useful. I have
used $800 commercial versions of this at work with great effect.
I have done some initial digging and have come up with the following:
RS De-soldering Tool - $10 new
Weller De-soldering Attachment - in junk box
Aquarium Pump - $7 - $70 new
So... I can use one of my Wellers as the heat source, or I can drop $10
for a dedicated (non-temp-controlled) unit. What I'm hung up on is that
I have no idea what capacity pump to buy. The $70 pump is somewhat large,
but is adjustable. The $7 pump is too small to enclose a golf ball.
There are numerous models in-between, including several with dual taps.
So... has anyone here had any experience building such things? If I
didn't read about it here, I'm baffled where else I would have run
across the info.
Thanks,
-ethan
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A friend of mine, Marcus (mlivius(a)charter.net) has a Commodore 128 he is
willing to part with for shipping (and maybe a few extra bucks). It is
still in the original packaging but doesn't come with documentation (in
fact, he says it has rarely, if ever, been used). If anyone is interested,
please contact him direct (mlivius(a)charter.net) to work out the details of
shipping from Houston, Texas.
-spc
Anyone interested in a Compaq DeskPro 2? Reply to original sender.
Reply-to: <WebMaster(a)soberbikersunited.org>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 08:10:57 -0500
From: Web Master <WebMaster(a)soberbikersunited.org>
To: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com>
Subject: Re: Compaq DeskPro 2
At 09:51 PM 5/21/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>On Wed, 21 May 2003, Web Master wrote:
>
> > Do you have use for a Compaq DeskPro Model 2? Model 1, 2, and 3 were
> > versions of the first "DeskPro" personal computer. Mid 1980's.
>
>Hi there.
>
>Maybe...where is it located?
Oshkosh, Wisconsin
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Ugh... this tape drive is going to be the death of me!
Now that I have a small supply of Maxell tapes for my TEAC MT-2ST/N50
cassette drive (thanks Don!!!), I've run into the next problem.
All the tapes are reported as "content unknown", and claim to be 60 MB
(the drive claims to do 150 or 160 depending on which info you pay
attention to). Neither of those are too big of a surprise as the tapes
are used, and logically have data that Retrospect on the Mac can't
understand, and may very well have been written to last with an earlier
version of the drive (different models support different MB's, and from
what I can tell, the tapes are all interchangable for writing at max MB,
and upwards readable so you can read a lower MB tape on a higher MB drive)
However, all the tapes ALSO report that they are locked. Regardless of
how I set the write protect slide, the tape is still seen as locked.
Which means I can't erase or write to the tapes.
I opened the drive, and the write protect sense switch appears to be
physically functional. I have not yet broken down the drive enough to see
if it is electronically functional (although about the best I can do is
test for switch continuity in the open and closed positions).
I'm wondering, is it possible they are seen as locked because of the data
on them? Is there a way to software lock the tapes? Or maybe the locked
is a side effect of having been last written at a lower MB (some kind of
a safety to keep you from screwing up the data with a higher MB drive).
If so, is it safe to bulk erase the tapes to wipe the data, or will I
destroy some kind of a control track as well and render the tape useless?
I know some kinds of media should not be bulk erased for just that
reason. I would just give it a go, but since I only have 10 tapes, and
these have proven a bit tough to locate, I don't want to destroy a tape
without at least consulting the resident group of experts.
TIA
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>From: "ben franchuk" <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca>
>
>Dwight K. Elvey wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi
>> All make the assumption that you must make 8 bit/16bit
>> or, in your case, 20 bit. One can make a 1 bit alu that
>> can have data width controlled by instruction. It may
>> not be fast at math but much processor time is consumed
>> just looking at true/false. If your model doesn't require
>> passing data through the alu for mem/mem and mem/io moves,
>> a single bitter makes sense.
>> ( My Nicolet is a 20 bit machine. )
>
>Darn! All the good computer names are taken. :)
>Do you have any more information?
>
>> Dwight
>
>Some day I would like to see a DECIMAL computer in
>TLL or FPGA like the early decimal machines.
>Ben.
Hi Ben
I didn't build it, I just made it work. A real pain,
since I didn't have any schematics and it had several
problems. There are a couple of pictures at:
http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw/jcgm-vcfiv.shtml
Look down 8 rows. The first 2 pictures in that row
are my Nicolet machine ( It has 12Kx20 core ). It is
all ttl/dtl, thought. Notice the front panel switch
position. It is 7600 octal, the boot vector in core.
One of the interesting things is the ALU. It has a
5 input port adder. One can select from, ALU, ALU*, MEM,
MEM* and "one" to add together. One can do a lot with
this combination.
Anyway, back on the original subject, there are also
some interesting minimal instruction processors described
out there. As I recall, there was one that had only 4
operations. SUBtract was one of them ( considered more
important than an ADD ).
I've been toying with making a single bit relay based
computer. My intent is to make the main memory bank using
reed relays with a magnet to bias them. The idea is that
the external magnet has just enough effect that if the
reed relay is closed, it stays that way. If it is opened
it stays open. One would arrange these relays in an array
with small ceramic magnets, north and south poles alternating
so that there is no cumulative bias. Writing to the reeds,
coil in opposite directions causes it to open or close.
Data is handled by a shift register so that the bus is
always 1 bit wide. It'll be slow but what the heck.
To make things a little more complicated, I expect to use
3 phase clocking. With this, I can use overlapped clocks,
without racing.
Dwight
I wrote:
>> I'm looking for DEC DSSI cabling, terminators, etc. I'm located
>> in the Boston suburbs, but will happily pay shipping.
John Allain responded:
> mini-IDC based or mini-centronics based?
Er, yes. ;^) I've got to go from uVAX 3400 and VAX 4k500 bulkheads (and
KFQSA) to each other and some HSD05/HSD10. The HSD's use micro-DB50 sized
connector that looks like a Centronics, while the uVAX 3400 (and I assume
the 4k500) have what looks like an inverted micro-DB50 connector (male on
host).
I never used DSSI machines in production, so I'm very unclear what these
cables are or look like...
Thanks,
--Steve.
smj(at)spamfree.crash.com (lose spamfree to get through, m'kay?)
It appears that I may have cornered, at least the local, market for
3-1/2" floppies. A recent thrift-shop find was a computer-paper sized
box (That is, the size of a box of real computer paper: wide greenbar.
Now, hopefully no one is going to ask a question like "what's
greenbar?") packed nearly full of, mostly unboxed, and used, floppies.
Nothing useful on them, just a bunch of PeeCee software for Windoze,
so I don't have to worry about overwriting anything valuable. :-)
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All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature &
rdd(a)rddavis.org 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such
http://www.rddavis.org beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.
Free (you pay shipping), or trash by end of May:
Found a box of 53 used quarter-inch cartridge tapes hiding in my home.
These are LOW CAPACITY tapes (450 feet/137.2 meters), almost all are
3M brand DC 300XL/P tapes, some few are other brands. All are used
(contents unknown, apparently backups). Storage boxes are generally
present, in mostly good condition (some cracked), but have been written
on with marker. All have been stored inside.
You are welcome to as many as you like; tell me your shipping address
and I'll tell you shipping costs (USPS Parcel Post (calculated via
www.usps.com)). Shipping originates from zip 63132. No cost for
packing and shipping, only USPS out-of-pocket costs.
I fully expect a thundering silence; I just hate pitching them without
at least asking.
Mark Grieshaber
mvg1(a)earthlink.net
I'm looking for DEC DSSI cabling, terminators, etc. I'm located
in the Boston suburbs, but will happily pay shipping.
Low/no-cost preferred, but please feel free to respond if you want
money for it, or something particular in trade. I don't have a
list of what I've got handy, but who knows? I've got a pile of
uninventoried Qbus boards now and random other bits.
Thanks,
--Steve.
smj(at)spamfree.crash.com (lose spamfree to get through, m'kay?)
On May 6, 22:49, Tony Duell wrote:
> > Do you know where I could find technical documentation for the
MINC-11
> > or MINC-23?
>
> What do you need to know? I have the printset (schematics) for the
> Minc-11, which includes some, but not all, of the MINC modules.
If anyone in the UK wants a MINC-11, I know where there is one, almost
certainly "free to a good home", and probably with some docs and
software. The catch is that it's in Scotland, and *must* be moved
within a week or so (owner is moving and can't take it with him).
I'd have it myself, but I have no more room :-(
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Anybody know what this is?
It has a dial for cylinders, a disal for meas. val. (measurement value, I
presume), switches for 4 cylinders and 8 cylinders, a switch with options
"car", "ci", and "sim", a bnc connector labeled "osc. out", etc. The
display is 4 alphanumeric LEDs. On power up, it displays "Cn00" (where
'n' is all four vertical segments and the topmost horizontal segment).
I've posted pictures of the unit and some of the cards here:
<http://www.applefritter.com/temp/exiles/car/>
There isn't any brand name on it and many of the boards look custom. A
few though look like like custom prints.
I appreciate any help.
Tom
Applefritter
www.applefritter.com
Finally found a Wang VS-85. Had to take it apart to get it in the house!
I'll be putting up some information and pictures on my web site soon.
The power supply had been removed, so I hacked together some cables and
used a power supply from something else. It has 1MB main memory, an I/O
controller for 16 serial (Wang coax-connected devices), four SMD disk
ports, a tape drive controller, and a couple of other unknown I/O
controllers.
The most interesting part:
A CE manual, describing the CPU architecture, theory, and lots of other
useful stuff, along with complete schematics for the whole system, and
most of the I/O controllers.
This machine is 32-bit, with an instruction set similar to the IBM 370.
The CPU consists of a ton of TTL chips, an ALU made of 74181's, and an
8KB writable control store. The microcode for the CPU resides on a 5
1/4" floppy disk. The floppy disk drive in the CPU cabinet can only load
microcode, you can't use it to store data.
Each I/O controller has its own CPU (or several). The old ones have a
couple of 74181's and EPROMS with a control program, the newer ones use
Z80's, and have RAM only, the control program gets loaded to them when
you IPL the system.
It's about the size of a clothes dryer. The standard power is 120vac,
but the hacked-in power supply is 220vac. Draws about 4 amps @ 220vac.
--
Jim Donoghue
Smithy Co.
(734) 913-6700
Can anyone help this person? Thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gebreselassie, Daniel" <DGebreselassie(a)cnmcresearch.org>
To: <jrkeys(a)concentric.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: Week's Finds
> Hi
>
> I would like to get the manual of the NEC PC-8300 note book used to
monitor
> HPLC. Would you please tell me where I find the manual.
>
> Thank you
>
>
> Daniel Gebreselassie, Ph.D.
> CRI, Center I,
> Children's National Medical Center
> 111, Michigan Avenue NW
> Washington DC 20010
> Phone: 202-884-2710 (O)
> 240-305-1720 (c)
Hello,
Probably my best find at the recent Hamvention in Dayton OH was a
stack of nixie tube modules made by HP. In retrospect, I wish that
I had purchased the whole box of them, but I hopefully have enough
to at least make a clock.
I have two variations on the modules, the part numbers are:
HP 05212-6016 series 648
HP 05212-6003 series 415
They both use Borroughs B422 nixie tubes and look like they may have
an integrated HV supply of some sort.
Here are a couple of pics for reference:
http://www.ubanproductions.com/Images/nixie1.jpghttp://www.ubanproductions.com/Images/nixie2.jpg
I would appreciate if anyone can tell me what HP (or other) instruments
may have used these modules. I would also like to find a schematic of
the module if possible.
Thanks!
--tom
Thanks for that.
I tried simply zipping up a .WAV file created by the program I mentioned and
it compressed from 544kb down to 3.4kb. The original data file was 409
bytes, so although the result is 8 times bigger than the data file, storage
is not too much of a problem.
At this compression ratio (or rather expansion I suppose), a CD could store
80Mb of original computer data - more than was probably ever written for
some of those computers!.
paul
-----Original Message-----
From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk]
Sent: 20 May 2003 00:26
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Preserving ancient media
> That's sort of what I was thinking of. Of course, as you say, it is ZX81
> specific.
>
> Were these home computer tape format's standardised in any way, or at
least
Not at _all_ Just about every manufacturer did it his own way...
> based on an older standard? I seem to remember a format called
> "Cottis-Blandford" from years ago. Am I right in saying that most home
I thought the common one was 'Kansas City', but that was not common on UK
home computers (the BBC micro was perhaps the closest to it).
> computer's tape data format was 1200Hz and 2400Hz for logic 0 and 1 (maybe
No! Some did, many didn't.
What's worse is that some manufacturers used a constant time for each bit
(so that one state was a single cycle of 1200 Hz, the other was 2 cycles
of 2400 Hz, say), but many other manufacturers used a single cycle at
each frequency for the 2 states. This means the bit rate is not even
constant...
> the other way round). How many stop/start & parity bits (and possibly more
> control bits) are sent may be computer-specific I guess.
However, a reasonable quality digital audio recording of these old tapes
might well be enough to preserver them (you could play it back to a real
tape, or directly into the home computer). It's not an efficient way to
store the data, but it's better than losing it totally.
-tony
Jay West wrote:
> Zane wrote..
> > I've run RT-11 and XXDP (Diag's) on my /44. Ideally I'd like to get it up
> > and running with RSTS/E (an OS I think Jay would like), but I don't need to
> > worry about that at the moment as don't have access to it (Oh, well, my /73
> > is configured better)
>
> I find RSTS (at first blush) a little obtuse. Maybe I haven't dug into it
> enough. But RT-11 with TSX+? That I LOVE!
Strange, I'd have figured that the strong BASIC nature of the OS would
appeal to you, given some of the HP stuff you mess with. OTOH, when you
throw in the RSX and RT-11 runtimes, it does get a little unusual, but
that's part of what makes it appealing to me :^)
Zane
Hi --
Funny, I just did the same thing with a VaxStation 3100 model 76 which was
running netbsd . . .
The OpenVMS Hobbyist site (www.montagar.com/hobbyist/) has a number of links to
OpenVMS software.
Later --
Glen
0/0
> Finally sorted out the licenses, and now have OpenVMS installed on my
> MicroVAX 3100 80 (it was running netbsd)
> Cool, learning vms is *fun* well its a challenge.
>
> Does anyone know a good source for software for the VAX at all..
>
> Benjamin
>I thought you could use 3.5" HD/DD disks in a DS/DD drive just fine. At
>worst a piece of tape over the "wrong" hole if necessary.
At least with the Mac, this isn't a good idea for long term use. It will
sometimes format the disk as DD if you tape over the HD sense hole, but
even if it does, you can pretty much count on the disk failing in a very
short period of time. I've never had a disk last more than a few
read/write sessions. After that, errors start occuring and you can't read
or write to it any more.
In many of the cases, the disk is usually hosed after this and won't take
a format back to HD anymore.
I can't say that I've really tried it outside of a Mac, so it might just
be a Mac thing that keeps it from working.
And despite the fact that some company made a hole puncher to make DD
disks into HD disks (I have one), that doesn't seem to work any better on
the Mac. In fact, in my findings, it works even worse as it rarely ever
even took the HD format in the first place, and when it did, it
immediatly starting having R/W errors and was unusable anyway.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
In case someone missed it in all of the noise currently on
comp.os.cpm:
------------------original message---------------------
From: David L. Foreman <davelf11(a)cox.net>
Subject: Computers, Free
Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 18:39:49 -0700
I have six Applied Microtechnology Z80 computers, and
two Burr-Brown/Applied Microtechnology Z80 Computers available in Tucson.
The BB units use the STD buss and the others have a 22/44 pin card the
same size as the STD buss card (4 1/2 by 6).
The cards are the same except the bus.
There processor, ram memory, eprom memory, DA, AD, eprom programmer cards.
I have all the manuals and softwre for them. Also 5 1/4 and 8 inch drives
and power supplies for the disk drives. CP/M comes along also.
Must be picked up in Tucson before the end of the month.
Dave F.
Hi All,
Finally sorted out the licenses, and now have OpenVMS installed on my
MicroVAX 3100 80 (it was running netbsd)
Cool, learning vms is *fun* well its a challenge.
Does anyone know a good source for software for the VAX at all..
Benjamin
--
one you lock the target
two you bait the line
three you slowly spread the net
and four you catch the man
Front 242 Headhunter
Given a plotter made in 1985. ROM checksum error appears at powerup.
The ROM has the numbers 0785-18078 Rev A 10-29-84 and the second ROM has
the numbers 07585-18076.
Anybody have the image of these ROMs so I can reburn them?
Ken
CAD2CAM.COM
I read that the NASA is now searching for 8086 chips on ebay, as the supply on the market has almost disappeared.
Pierre
cctech(a)classiccmp.org schrieb am 16.05.03 17:19:18:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vintage Computer Festival [mailto:vcf@siconic.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 1:22 AM
> > To: Classic Computers
> > Subject: Re: Oldest computer still in current use
> >
> <SNIP>
> >
> > I am inclined to believe there may still be some ground
> > systems for the
> > Space Shuttle program that are run on 8080 based machines.2
> >
>
> I can confirm as a fact that there was at least 1 8086 flying on Columbia
> before Feb 1.
>
>
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Hi,
Have a client with an OLD point of sale/rental system which is hardwired
for DG 216 terminals. One went completely out last week and he wants to
try to replace it. Do you have any, or know anyone with some of these
left ?
Thanks in advance,
Tom Latimer, Precision Computer Systems
tlatimer(a)voyager.net
Okemos, Michigan
(517) 349 5332
<< I just took delivery of a Cybernetic Systems Mathiputer.It's a stupid
odd-shaped math toy that quizes you on arithmetic..... >>
Hey, i WANT one of those things! In some thirty plus years of
teaching special education kids, i have never found anything before or since
that has worked as well for getting number facts semi-permanently into a
certain subset of smart, but learning disabled, brains!
NONE of the newer fancy number facts software can hold a candle.... If
i knew how to program, i'd write something for windows that worked precisely
like the good ol' Mathiputer!
So.... If happens you know where i can get one that is still
functional, at a price i can possibly afford on school teacher's wages,
PLEASE LET ME KNOW!!
Thanks,
Ghena Dalby
Ghena2(a)aol.com
On May 19, 10:27, Witchy wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On
> > Behalf Of Rob O'Donnell
> > I remember these being in use at Ferranti, when I was an apprentice
there
> > about 20 years ago .. (so age fits!) AFAICR we only ever used them
in
> > stand-alone mode as a bulk copier. They were also RENTED, from
> > Livingston
> > Hire, if I recall correctly, (certainly we used them a lot) so
> > there may be a chance you can find some old docs from them.
>
> Is that these people?
Yes, same company. I've occasionally hired specialist test equipment
>from them.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Apologies for this message, but...
Does anyone know how to get ahold of David Betz? His e-mail box seems
to be a bit full...
MAILER-DAEMON@... wrote:
>
> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mercury.mv.net.
> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>
> <dbetz@...>:
> Recipient's mailbox is full, message returned to sender. (#5.2.2)
>
> --- Below this line is a copy of the message.
--
--- Dave Woyciesjes
--- ICQ# 905818
Well, I quickly checked for Outlook. Outlook Express *could* be
different as with many other things between Outlook/Outlook Express.
To see all headers do the following in Outlook:
- open the mail message (not preview, but "full screen")
- click "View" from the menu bar
- select "Options..." from the list that appears.
The "Message Options" dialog box opens.
- In the "Message Options" dialog box at the bottom the
scroll box shows the "Internet headers:".
- Henk.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zane H. Healy [mailto:healyzh@aracnet.com]
> Sent: woensdag 21 mei 2003 10:44
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Current Subscribe Procedure?
>
>
> >Being a major smart A** I can't resist pointing out the following
> >information in the message headers. Though since you're in
> a Win98 system I
>
> BTW, this was supposed to have a smiley in there....
>
> >suspect they're probably hidden from you (I read a lot of
> the messages using
> >'elm' on Unix so I see most of the headers). I don't think
> I see these when
> >I read the messages with Eudora on my Mac.
>
> It turns out that I can see the headers under Eudora, though
> I'm wondering if they show up under MS Outlook/Outlook
> Express. Do they?
>
> Zane
>
> --
> --
> | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator |
> | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast |
> | | Classic Computer Collector |
> +----------------------------------+----------------------------+
> | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
> | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. |
> | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |
> I have not subscribed since before the change to cctalk.
> Can someone please point me to the current procedure?
> I want to change to a different e-mail address.
Being a major smart A** I can't resist pointing out the following
information in the message headers. Though since you're in a Win98 system I
suspect they're probably hidden from you (I read a lot of the messages using
'elm' on Unix so I see most of the headers). I don't think I see these when
I read the messages with Eudora on my Mac.
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