- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

HP 2860 Dual bay rack with smoked plexiglass doors HP 2100A cpu w/24K (includes 12920/21 mux set with an extra control board for control lines on all ports, unknown board - HP DATA 12604-60001, three grd tru boards, terminator, mark reader interface, 8 bit duplex register, trans sync modem, recv sync modem, and I/O extender intf) HP 2155A I/O extender (includes buffd tty register, 13037 interface, terminator, and line printer interface) HP 2100S cpu w/32K (includes 7970 tape controller bds 1&2, TBG, priv. int, and jumper) HP 7970B mag tape drive (800 bpi) HP 2748B paper tape reader HP 2610A drum Line Printer HP 7261A optical mark card reader Teletype model 35 LOADS of docs and paper tapes. Many of which I have not seen before and are new to me at least. Most of this stuff is in perfect condition, a few items are in "fair to good" condition. Most of the paper tape library seems at first blush to be RJE centric, some DB/Image, RTE, and DOS stuff seems to be there as well. 12 binders of docs for pretty much everything, hardware & software. I put up some pictures of the stuff while it was all in the garage/basement at http://www.ezwind.net/jwest/HP Also got the wayward 30062 terminal controller multiplexer connector panel that I have been looking for. Yay! An oddball (to me) item was in there.... a 98041A disc interface. This appears to let an hp 98xx? calculator hook up to large HP disc drives? Time to take a week off work perhaps and clean & test & play :) Jay West

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Modern monitors for HP 9000 300

by peterbrown10＠hotmail.com

Hi All, Does anyone have a suggestion as to a color monitor to use with old HP 9000 300 series machines? The important number is the line rate of 25 kHz. Most modern multi-sync models only start at 30 KHz so won't sync on to these older machines. Cheers Peter Brown _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

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Web is just a fancy 3270 session

by mross666＠hotmail.com

>Message: 31 >From: "David Gari" <dgari(a)msn.com> >Subject: Re: Web is just a fancy 3270 session > >(quote) >I was just typing a message into a web forum, hit the post reply button, >and while I am waiting I realize, SHEESH, this is just an graphical upgrade >of the 3270 CICS I was running 20 years ago. Except not as fast. >(end quote) > >There are other differences: > >No viri. Christmas tree? Mike http://www.corestore.org _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Osborne Computer Equipment

by michaelkqkq＠hotmail.com

Woohoo! thanks! I might "get a little crazy" for this one :) mike >From: "Erik S. Klein" <classiccmp(a)vintage-computer.com> >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: RE: Osborne Computer Equipment >Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 21:55:14 -0700 > >Ask and ye shall receive: >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2734991210&category=1 >247 > >I have absolutely nothing to do with the auction, the seller or eBay >(other then my account). I just bumped into this listing after reading >the email below. > >My best guess is that it'll close between $100 and $150 unless someone >gets crazy. > >Best of luck! > > Erik Klein > www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum > The Vintage Computer Forum > >-----Original Message----- >From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org] >On Behalf Of Michael Pike >Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 4:20 PM >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: Osborne Computer Equipment > >Hello all... > >I am looking for old Osborne systems (one of each). I am looking for an > >Osborne 1 with the original disks and documentation. I used to have one >as >a teenager and have since lost it... > >I am interested in all of the Osborne series (Osborne 1, Vixen and >Executive). The Osborne 1 is the most important as it was the first, >but I >am also interested in others as well. > >If you know of anyone who has one and will sell it, please email me.... > >I am very particular... it must have the books and original software. > >Thanks! >Mike > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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Interesting toy... "Gravis Phoenix"?

by ETILLMAN＠satx.rr.com

Clear DayJust picked up for pocket change at a yard sale: a Gravis Phoenix joystick/game pad combo (SN: 4794, Made in Canada, FCC ID: HYN1010A). Its old enough that it has, aside from the normal DB-15 game port adapter, a split unversal adapter for an AT or PS/2 keyboard port. The adapter is unique, I think, in the fact that it appears fully reversable to work with either. I plan to test it on my PC, but I wondered if anyone could point me in the direction of schematics, user manuals, drivers or installation packages. Any assist greatly appreciated... Cheers! Ed/San Antonio, Tx; USA

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Fry's (was goin to CA soon, to be a CC tychoon

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Fred N. van Kempen" <waltje(a)pdp11.nl> wrote: > On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Al Kossow wrote: > > That was their SECOND location in Sunnyvale. The first was two blocks > > east, on the other side of Laurence Expr. MUCH smaller, but a larger > > selection of useful stuff (like ICs). > Er... their second? I always thought that was their first.. I mean > the one just off of Lawrence Expwy, righthand-side when coming off > the 237, going towards Central Expwy.. its right before where Arques > crosses Lawrence. Fry's Sunnyvale location has moved twice. The first was on the other side of Lawrence, approximately behind Coco's. It was as Al said, the sort of place you could go for ICs, connectors, Amiga RKMs, potato chips, soda pop, and aspirin. I'm guessing that the big difference is that Fry's now uses the grocery-store model in the parts aisles: rather than hire knowledgeable buyer(s) to select a good range of stock, sections of the parts aisles are rented to to distributors who supply the stock (and maybe even put it out on the shelves). So you get very narrow, single-vendor selections of some types of parts. That and, well, the target market is everyone (instead of just Sillycon Valley geeks) now that computers are just a special case of consumer electronics. -Frank McConnell

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RX02 and catweasel (Was 8" drive hooked up to a PC)

by aek＠spies.com

I seem to draw hostility when I post about it here -- I don't understand that at all.. I've read hundreds of discs with it, and other that it being fairly slow, works pretty well. Getting your software working on a PCI Mac with the new version of the card, as well as adding hard-sectored and M2FM support is on my list to do.

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goin to CA soon, to be a CC tychoon

by ejchapel＠attbi.com

>At 12:00 PM 6/8/2003 -0500, Jim Davis, your nimble fingers typed: >Sorry, Getting totally OT here, PC HEIDENS was considered the "SOUP >NAZI" of the reseller world. Found their way to bankrupcy last year.. Har >Har. >NO CHIPS FOR YOU! Your analogy here is spot on... I had to pick myself up after falling out my chair laughing.

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RX02 and catweasel (Was 8" drive hooked up to a PC)

by tim＠tim-mann.org

Ethan Dicks wrote: > The data-portion of the RX02 is what a PeeCee FDC can't digest. It > *might* be possible to program an Amiga to digest RX02 disks (it also > lacks a dedicated FDC - it uses a 4096-bit shift register in the sound > chip to import the data, and (for MFM formats) miniterms applied by > the graphics co-processor to translate back and forth to plain binary > data). The Catweasel should be able to handle it, but, as has been > hashed out here before, you'd have to roll your own with it; the software > support is severely lacking compared to the capability of the hardware. If anyone is interested in reading RX02 format with a Catweasel, I've been down this road. My software for the Catweasel can read and write these disks. You can download it from my Web page. If you hate the Catweasel for some reason (I seem to draw hostility when I post about it here), you're also free to grab my software and adapt it to other hardware that can sample floppy drive output. -- Tim Mann http://www.tim-mann.org/

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DEC RL02 anyone need one?

by aek＠spies.com

If anyone has a copy of the RL02 Technical Manual, I'd like to borrow it to add to the documentation archive. ==== Thanks to Tom Uban, there is now a scan up at www.spies.com/aek/pdf/dec/disc

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WTGRO: SGI Prof Iris 4D/80

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I've got an SGI Professional Iris 4D/80, sans disk and some trim pieces on the case, that I want to get rid of. It's got some Digital and analog video input connections on it, and the max ram you can put in on the mainboard (16MB?) I'm willing to ship the whole thing, or just the boards + I/O bulk heads. $10 + shipping (Pickup is OK, too) for it all, or any part of it. I'm in Lafayette, IN, near Purdue. At least the case needs to be gone by next weekend, I can hold onto the boards for another week or so. I'm out of space and trying to thin the collection out. I've never hooked it up, and selling it for less than I paid for it when I got it a few months ago. I just want to keep it out of the dumpster if I can. Email me (off-list) if you have any questions, I can get a list of the boards in it if anyone is interested. If there's a lot of response, I'll take the best offer I get by Tuesday morning. Pat -- Purdue University ITAP/RCS Information Technology at Purdue Research Computing and Storage http://www.itap.purdue.edu/rcs/

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FA: Items of interest

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

I've placed a few items that may be of interest to the group up for auction on E-pay. First, a pair of ISA-bus prototype cards from JDR... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36327&item=2537218109 A box of unused DC6150 tape cartridges... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11165&item=2735013041 And a NuBus prototyping board from Vector... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4601&item=2735015142 Thanks for putting up with my occasional bursts of ad. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)

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Fw: contents of latest HP load

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

> >I picked up > > several of the 7970E tape drives. They all say 45 IPS inside and all but > > one are marked "option 052/151", the other one is marked "option 183". It > > was one of a pair that was mounted in one cabinent and run off of a single > > set of controller cards with some jumper cables connecting the two drives. > > option 151 specifies 45ips, master PE read circuits, 9 track, PE write > circuits (1600bpi) > > From what I've seen, -151 is the most common to find 'in the wild' these > days > > I would suspect that 052 is an elective option, not a standard configuration > option. I can't find any docs on option 052. > > Option 183 I also can't find any docs on, but I would guess it is something > related to being a slave drive. > > HP 7970 tape drives could be read/write, read only, dual format, or multiple > format. They could also be slave only units (where you have to have a master > to use it) or master. > > I personally think the nicest setup for a single tape drive is > the -157/161/165 which are 3 varying speeds of a master that can deal with 7 > or 9 track, PE or NRZI. However, these can't write PE mode, only NRZI. Lets > you read the most types of media though. Then the best setup for two drives > is either two 151's on two separate controllers, or a 151 and 150 > master/slave setup. > > I find the manual on these options especially confusing. > > Jay West

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Classic Computer Rescue Squad

by yakowenk＠yahoo.com

For the first time in ages, the Classic Computer Rescue Squad web page is up-to-date. While my current burst of enthusiasm holds up, you may want to take a look at it and suggest additions and adjustments. It lives at this URL: http://www.cs.unc.edu/~yakowenk/classiccmp/ccrs_list.html Cheers, Bill.

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IBM PS/2 Model 25

by danjr＠voyager.net

I am looking for an IBM PS/2 Model 25, preferrably one with an internal hard drive. If anyone has one or knows where I could get one cheap, I would be interested. This is the model with monitor integrated into the computer. Thanks Dan danjr(a)voyager.net

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Osborne Computer Equipment

by michaelkqkq＠hotmail.com

Yeah, right... do you treat all of your new users like this>! I already am bidding on several on Ebay, but I want the original stuff... I already have a bunch of original machines, but the Osborne 1 was MY FIRST CPM machine (aside from my Timex Sinclair 1000). I found this mailing list by looking at an auction on ebay who uses this group. Yeah I am a collector, and I do have deep pockets for the right machine - so instead of being a jerk about it, why don't you try and help out. Mike >From: Jim Davis <jpdavis(a)gorge.net> >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: Osborne Computer Equipment >Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 21:23:15 -0700 > >Michael Pike wrote: > >>Hello all... >> >>I am looking for old Osborne systems (one of each). I am looking for an >>Osborne 1 with the original disks and documentation. I used to have one >>as a teenager and have since lost it... >> >>I am interested in all of the Osborne series (Osborne 1, Vixen and >>Executive). The Osborne 1 is the most important as it was the first, but >>I am also interested in others as well. >> >>If you know of anyone who has one and will sell it, please email me.... >> >>I am very particular... it must have the books and original software. >> >>Thanks! >>Mike >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* >>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus >> >Sounds like you have a line on a deep pocket buyer. If you were a true >collector, a complete package >of manuals and "original disks" wouldn't matter. GO FISH! _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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Osborne Computer Equipment

by michaelkqkq＠hotmail.com

Hello all... I am looking for old Osborne systems (one of each). I am looking for an Osborne 1 with the original disks and documentation. I used to have one as a teenager and have since lost it... I am interested in all of the Osborne series (Osborne 1, Vixen and Executive). The Osborne 1 is the most important as it was the first, but I am also interested in others as well. If you know of anyone who has one and will sell it, please email me.... I am very particular... it must have the books and original software. Thanks! Mike _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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Interesting toy... "Gravis Phoenix"?

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

Actually, the joystick failed on my PC: the PS/2 connections disabled my keyboard, and the DB-15 connector blocked-out my sound card. Any thoughts on all of this? Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, Texas, USA Office: (210)592-3110, Fax (210)592-2048 Email: edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> -----Original Message----- From: Ed Tillman [mailto:ETILLMAN@satx.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 7:48 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Interesting toy... "Gravis Phoenix"? ..Just picked up for pocket change at a yard sale: a Gravis Phoenix joystick/game pad combo (SN: 4794, Made in Canada, FCC ID: HYN1010A). Its old enough that it has, aside from the normal DB-15 game port adapter, a split unversal adapter for an AT or PS/2 keyboard port. The adapter is unique, I think, in the fact that it appears fully reversable to work with either. I plan to test it on my PC, but I wondered if anyone could point me in the direction of schematics, user manuals, drivers or installation packages. Any assist greatly appreciated... Cheers! Ed/San Antonio, Tx; USA

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ZX81 Kits, socialist pinko left wingers and the right.

by big_boy_toddy＠yahoo.com

What cracks me up is that someone has the nuts to accuse another in a free market system of greed. What are you, some kind of socialist that another owes you? Somebody purchases at their expense (where is your money bub?), store at their expense (garage or otherwise costs money), market at their expense (if possible, were do you market such stuff these days, eBay seems only viable option), and still get them in the hands of those folks that enjoy and want to buy one. 20 years ago your labor was a lot less than it costs today, I speculate somewhere in the range of 20-30% of what it is today. That makes your labor costs today about 300-400% more today than they were then. I don't see anyone accusing you of being a greedy guy cause you get paid 200-300% more than you did in the early 80s, or maybe you don't work and suck of the nipple of the govern-mint. Just some thoughts. Hope you have a nice day!

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(no subject)

by booleangeneral＠ciudad.com.ar

Steve : I found your posting about the lower case option for the ADM-3A terminal . As you can see, this is not the last time that somebody will do this :o) I have one terminal here that works perfectly well. The only thing I need is the ROM listing to adapt some 2716 or 2732 the same way you did in the complete article web page. I couldn't download the files from the web page because it gives some kind of server error. Could you please be so kind to send me both files via email if they are still available ? I will appreciate that very much. Kind regards, Roberto G. Berner --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ADM-3A I just "restored" a nice brown/beige ADM-3A. I got a new CRT for USD 50, and then noticed that this unit didn't have lower case installed. What the "lower case" option consisted of was a lower case 2513-type ROM and a couple of 2102-1 chips, all of which can be inserted into sockets on the motherboard. Problem is, the lower case 2513 LC ROM is not readily available. So I built an adapter to make the multi-voltage 2513 PMOS chip I had from my other ADM-3A look like a 2716 to my EPROM programmer/reader. I read the upper and lower case chips, programmed a lower case 2716, and made a small adapter from to make the 2716 "look" like a 2513 in the socket, installed the chips/adapter, flipped a few switches, and voila! This is detailed athttp://juliepalooza.8m.com/sl/adm3a-2.htm I don't think that this is the FIRST time that this has been done - but it might be among the last!

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Sun SparcStation 5 power supplies (PN 300-1215-02)

by fernando＠serto.com.br

Hi mate! I've been looking for a power supply for my sparc5, and found one message from you, selling a few of these... do you still have one left? cheers, Fernando

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Spare Chips

by paularts＠home.nl

I want to work my Art EPP-2 programmer but i lost the software google doesn't have what i'm looking for any of you pherhaps (its for the 27 and 28 series) Paul

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Apollo Domain, Aegis, etc

by cube1＠charter.net

I'd be interested. I have a DN 3500, and also have tapes (in fact, a while back I offered to *give* away my duplicates, but had no takers. Jay Jaeger At 08:52 PM 4/6/2003 -0500, Tothwolf wrote: >I just acquired what seems to be a fairly complete set of tapes for an >Apollo system running Domain/OS. I was planning to make images of the >tapes, and wondered if anyone might be looking for any of this software? > >Here is a condensed list of the tapes: > AEGIS 9.6.1, tapes 1 and 2 > AEGIS 9.7, tapes 1 and 2 > TCP/IP 3.0 > DOMAIN/IX 9.5 > NFS 1.0 > NFS 2.0 > DPCC 3.1 > CC 4.8 > CC 4.89 > CC 6.6 M/6.5 MPX > FTN 9.38 > FTN 9.66 > FTN 10.6 M/10.5 MPX > Interleaf 4.0.66, tapes 1 and 2 > >Some of the (DC600?) tapes have bad drive belts, but that should be pretty >simple to correct. > >-Toth --- Jay R. Jaeger The Computer Collection cube1(a)charter.net

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Teletype: Problems again

by toresbe＠ifi.uio.no

I have recently bought colour tape for the 33. The printer has a black substance that pushes the printhead towards the paper. This has dissolved into an oily-like thing, and there is zero pressure for the head against the paper. I will try to put a licorice candy (L?kerol) in its place as a kludge, but it very likely won't last. Do you know what causes it? Where to get a new one? Is that SUPPOSED to happen?' Confused Regards -Tore

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Qbus Backplanes

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 5, 16:19, Tothwolf wrote: > Since we are on the subject of VAXen... > > What would be the most likely problem with a BA123 MicroVAX II that powers > up, but sometimes totally locks up during the diagnostics? (I'm not even > sure it can boot, as some of the RD53s sound a little sick.) I've pretty > much eliminated the boards as the cause, and the only things left are the > backplane and power supply. It does have those older power supply to > backplane wiring harness cables, which I guess I need to replace before I > put many boards in the card cage. Could be voltage drop between PSU and backplane, resulting in low voltage on the cards. Part of the problem with the harness (which was discussed here some months ago, in a different context) is that parts go high-resistance. Check the voltage (especially the +5V) on one of the cards. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Web is just a fancy 3270 session

by dgari＠msn.com

(quote) I was just typing a message into a web forum, hit the post reply button, and while I am waiting I realize, SHEESH, this is just an graphical upgrade of the 3270 CICS I was running 20 years ago. Except not as fast. (end quote) There are other differences: No viri. No pop-ups. No spam. No anonymous morons. No evil cookies dropped onto your machine, 3rd party or otherwise. No audio, just peace and (beep) quiet. Oh yeah; no graphics, no mouse, no point-and-click. If the speed bothers you, get a faster connection. I just wonder if improving the user interface to the point where monkeys can use it is an evolutionary step forward or backward.... -David Gari _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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Cool little modulator

by cb＠mythtech.net

>>Its an RGB -> NTSC modulator for the Apple IIc. It also came with a >>game/TV switch box, but I don't know if that was originally part of the >>package, or just a seperate item that was included in the auction. > > >COOL >I don't know anythng about them, but have been curious for some time. >Please report all you know, post picts, play with it, etc. > >OTOH maybe I am thinking about the thing for the IIc+ Sellam indicated that he thinks the modulator came with all IIc's, but I have to question... Why? The IIc already has a composite video out, so why also ship with the modulator. For that matter... why make the modulator at all?!? If the IIc has composite video, why bother with an RGB to composite? Does the IIc+ not have the composite? I would not be surprised if the Computer/TV slide switch shipped with all IIc's, much like they shipped with all Atari 2600's. Just a cheap item to toss in so people can connect it to their TV set. But including an apparently redundant function modulator, that just seems silly. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Optimem 600 worm drives

by rjkulman＠optonline.net

the information and details provided by richard erlacher are completely false and unfounded, this person has never made a purchase from me, nor do I know of any dealings with him. His objective in writing this about his dealing with me is obviously to just tarnish my reputation for some unknown reason surely a dealer of making a living selling computer items would provide details of what they are selling, pricing is always an issue with any sale, there's always someone somewhere selling it cheaper, so so they think. don't beleive everything you read, especially from richard erlacher there are at least 2 sides to very subjective commentary rj -- rj kulman rjk consulting llc 718 968 9167 voice 1810/Fax Reply To: rjkulman(a)optonline.com new / used computer stuff - credit cards accepted: discover-mastercard-visa-amer-exp Verified Paypal Acct / paypal- sign up and get $5.00 for each of us: https://secure.paypal.com/refer/pal=rjkulman%40optonline.net Nothing But Net Keep Your Options, Opinions and Software OPEN - current ebay auctions: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=rjkulman@o…

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Unknown Apple 2 cards

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

> It's the only card of the bunch besides the ROM programmer (which I also > have) that I recognize. yep - someone's found the user manual for me (complete with details on how to hack the card to work with 27128 chips - ahhh, the good old days of computing!) luckily everything the card needs is in ROM so I'm not missing any software for it. Hope it still works, I could certainly make use of it! > This is truly one cool lot of Apple cards. I have a lot more too, but most of them are more common - disk interfaces, SSC cards, Epson printer interfaces etc. There's four different audio cards too I think, three of which are homebrewed and one which has four 40-pin ICs on it; I'm yet to identify that last one. Unfortunately no SCSI or network controllers (so far anyway!) - that would have been nice :-) I'm still to see what I've left in the machines themselves but they're way too buried to get at presently. I know both my ProFile interface boards are in the Apple /// but other than that I don't know. > really like to know what the IC Tester does (though I think it's pretty > obvious ;) Well I did a search via deja/google and someone managed to get hold of the software a couple of years back, so it might be floating around somewhere. That IC tester and the programmer could probably do useful work for me; I just need to hook one of the Apple systems up to the PC somehow so it can communicate with the outside world. Probably be via serial, but if I had a SCSI card in the Apple in theory it could share a SCSI bus with the PC would would be interesting :) (I've only ever seen that done between two identical modern SGI boxes - not between hardware with a 20 year time difference!) cheers Jules

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Slightly OT

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi I couldn't help but pass this on: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3611062497&category=40129 later Dwight

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Systems Enhancement Corporation Power Administrator 800

by Paul.HILLS＠uk.landisgyr.com

Of course there is no "standard" 9-pin serial connector, except what has become standard just by virtue of mass usage on the PC. The original IBM PC had standard 25 pin connectors of course. Even that serial port was not a standard RS232, since the RS232 standard also has a second serial link on pins 14 and 16, along with all the control signals for the secondary link, which the PC didn't have (as far as I'm aware). I've never seen an RS232 comms link fully populated and used to the standard though! It is unlikely that any other equipment would conform to the PC world's 9-pin 'standard' unless it is quite new. Most recent test equipment tends to use the 25 pin connector if it has a serial port at all. The standard for test equipment (and probably UPSs as well) is GPIB (IEEE-488) which is parallel. paul -----Original Message----- From: Tothwolf [mailto:tothwolf@concentric.net] Sent: 05 June 2003 21:22 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: RE: Systems Enhancement Corporation Power Administrator 800 On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Feldman, Robert wrote: > It might be that the DE-9's don't have a standard PC serial pinout. At > work, we have a UPS that uses a DE-9 for programming, but the pinout on > the cable (a 940-0024C; Googling produces a number of hits) is > > Female Male > 1-4 > 2------------2 > 3------------1 > 5------------6 > 6 NC > 7-8 > 9 NC Let me guess...APC? :) Their ports are very fun, since if you plug in a standard serial cable, and open the port, it can turn off the UPS. The UPS' port supports both a dump-mode DTR/RTS/etc signaling as well as a smart-mode. The cable above is their "smart" cable. The 1-4 and 7-8 connections are also not needed if you are not using 3rd party software such as NUT, as they are just loop back connections. -Toth

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HP front-panel keys

by coredump＠gifford.co.uk

Quick question for those people with HP 1000 machines and the like... what are the front-panel keys like? Only I have a few discarded HP keys here that are all alike: Corbin Cabinet Lock CAT99 Corbin 4T1427 All the keys are brass. Are they for an HP front-panel lock of some sort? If so, which? -- John Honniball coredump(a)gifford.co.uk

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HP front-panel keys

by fmc＠reanimators.org

John Honniball <coredump(a)gifford.co.uk> wrote: > Corbin 4T1427 This would fit several models of classic HP 3000 -- mine has worked in a Series III and also in a Series 58, and I would expect it to work in at least Series II, 44 and 58. But not on Series 37, 64, 68, 70, or Micro 3000s. -Frank McConnell

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DRIVER

by jcinet＠prodigy.net.mx

SORRY, DRIVER FOR Citizen Type II printer model iDP-560-RSL COULD YOU SEND THE CONTROLLER, IF IT IS THAT YOU HAVE IT? PODRIAS MANDAR EL CONTROLADOR, SI ES QUE LO TIENES? PLEAS.

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Unknown Apple 2 cards

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

>> yep - someone's found the user manual for me (complete with details on >> how to hack the card to work with 27128 chips - ahhh, the good old days >> of computing!) > > Hey cool. Are these in electronic form? I'd like a copy. yep, see: http://home.iprimus.com.au/figjams/apple2/AP-64e.pdf Initial tests on the card seem to show it's working anyway. I need to dig out the Apple manuals themselves to see how to use the monitor, in order to look at data I've read from EPROM chips plugged into the card (just to verify that it's reading OK) >> need to hook one of the Apple systems up to the PC somehow so it can >> communicate with the outside world. Probably be via serial, but if I >> had a SCSI card in the Apple in theory it could share a SCSI bus with >> the PC would would be interesting :) (I've only ever seen that done >> between two identical modern SGI boxes - not between hardware with a >> 20 year time difference!) > > I don't see why it wouldn't work though. I imagine the controller in the Apple needs to appear as a device on the SCSI bus; I believe that rules out some of the available cards at least. Plus the ID of either the Apple or PC controller would have to change from the default obviously - I think this can be done with all the Adaptec PC cards I have, not sure about the various Apple cards that are available. Would be an interesting experiment to try anyway. cheers Jules

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Qbus Backplanes

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 5, 7:28, Ethan Dicks wrote: > --- vance(a)neurotica.com wrote: > > Hello people. Is there any way to tell if a backplane is QQQQ or QQCD by > > looking at it, and without having to pull the backplane out of the > > chassis? > In some older chassis, you can see the backplane wiring, but not on > boxes like the BA23 or BA123. > > > What if I can find the model number of the chassis? > > That's useful... The model numbers that look like BA-23, BA-11N, BA-11M, > etc., are the ones you want. > > Also, remember in newer boxes, it's three slots of Q22-CD, with the > rest Q22-Q22. That's true for a BA23 (3 slots plus 5), but in a BA123 it's four Q-CD, eight Q-Q, and the thirteenth slot is not bussed at all. > Older boxes can be wired for either 18-bit or 22-bit addressing, > which may or may not involve Q-CD slots. I _think_ the BA-11N is a > 18-bit Q-CD box... that's what I remember my 11/23 is in (but I > added the extra wires some time ago to make it Q22). Yes, a normal BA11-N is Q-CD. So is a BA11-S. If you can read the H92xx number off the backplane (it's often visible without too much effort, for example it's on the top of a BA11-M/N/S backplane) you can look that up to see if it's straight (Q-CD), serpentine (Q-Q) or mixed. The following is not exhaustive, but includes the common ones: PDP-11/03 BA11-M H9270 18-bit 4 x Q-Q PDP-11/23 BA11-N H9273 18-bit 9 x Q-CD H9275 22-bit 9 x Q-Q PDP-11/23+ BA11-S H9276 22-bit 9 x Q-CD microPDP-11 BA23 H9278 22-bit 3 x Q-CD, 5 x Q-Q H9281 18-bit various sizes, only two slots (AB) microPDP-11 BA123 54-17507 or 70-22019 22-bit 4 x Q-CD, 8 x Q-Q, 1 x non-bus DDV11 18-bit 9 x Q-Q, slots EF are separate Q-Q backplanes are usually referred to as serpentine (or sometimes as zig-zag), Q-CD as straight. Serpentine slot order goes like this: slot 1 ----> slot 2 | V slot 4 <---- slot 3 | V slot 5 ----> slot 6 etc Some of the backplanes have optional jumpers to enable/disable LTC interrupt, or for termination. Many carry the SRUN_L signal only on row 1. Beware of such differences when changing backplanes or linking two together. The DDV11 is unusual in being hex-height instead of quad-height; the extra slots are nor bussed, except for +5,V, 0V, and -12V, but may carry odd voltages, depending on which OEM or experimenter last used it! There's a rumour that the first 3/4 slots in a BA23/123 are special and you can't use them for anything except memory or processor; that's rubbish, they're normal Q22-CD slots and you can put anything that's Q-CD compatible in them, so long as it's after the processor. What *is* special is the range of PMI memory boards; if you put them in *front* of a KDJ11-B they use the CD interconnect for the Private Memory Interface but if you put them *after* the CPU they use the Q-Bus like all other memory boards. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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zenith minisport hd problems

by grunsjah＠talk21.com

Have minisport 2mb, external fdd (750kb only) and 10+, 2.5" floppy discs (mostly still sealed) also manuals somewhere. It all works but the battery life is very limited. Could mail it to you in return for postage. John Grunstein in U.K.

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weekend additions

by LewGa4＠aol.com

hello is any body still there i have a few questions before i sell a canon cat v777

22 years, 10 months

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DSP starter kit for sale

by sartore＠elbatech.com

Hello, I wish to notice that my Company inserted a TI starter kit on eBay, with number 2734510160. (you may try the direct link http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2734510160) Best regards, Marco Sartore Marco Sartore ElbaTech srl Via Roma 1 57030 Marciana (LI) Tel e fax 0565-901002 http://www.elbatech.com

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Unknown Apple 2 cards

by KevenM＠exegesys.com

>okay i don't remember the exact name of it the card with the button, but it >was used as a hacking card, the button when pressed issued a NMI, so and goes >into a program on the ROM, and allows you to debug any program running at the >time, and can also save memory contents, it was used for hacking games and >removing copy protection from programs. And I was going to be nice and just declare that I remember it as a debugging tool; such that the push of a button got you to a debugging status. ___________________________________________________________________ Keven Miller mailto:kevenm@exegesys.com http://www.exegesys.com

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Vaxstation 2000 and VXT software, 4 plane color supported?

by sgust＠ithh.infoserv.de

Some time ago I got my hands on a Vaxstation 2000. I searched for some Information about the machine and read somewhere that it should be possible to run the VXT X terminal software on the VS 2000. The only version of the VXT software I found was in VMS BACKUP format which I could not read. So I put NetBSD on the machine, it runs disk-less from a PC with Linux. Last week I searched again and found version 2.1 of the VXT software in tar format, so I could finally try it. It works, but only in monochrome. If I put my VS40X 4 plane color option board into the machine it seems to crash when it has finished loading. Some pixels get randomly set and the machine does not react on the break switch at the back. Is the color board supported by the VXT software? Or is it a firmware issue? My board has version 1.4, are there newer versions available? Or even older version? Anybody want to swap firmware dumps? The loading process via mop often takes several retries or even fails completely, especially when loading the full VXT.SYS version. It seems to work better if there is some load on the Linux server, perhaps the mop daemon sends the data too fast. Has anybody else seen this effect? Is it possible to use the VXTLDR.SYS to load the rest of the software via TCP/IP? I know nearly nothing about DECNET and don't have any other DEC equipment to run it on. Another minor problem is that I don't have a real DEC mouse. I use a small Atmel AT90S2313 micro-controller as protocol converter. It currently only supports one mouse button and needs an Amiga mouse, but I plan to adapt it to PS/2 mice. The information about the DEC mouse protocol I found leaves some minor questions. How many packets per second does a real DEC mouse send in stream mode? I chose to send 60 per second, as this was easy to implement via the timer0 interrupt on the Atmel. What does a real DEC mouse return as revision and manufacturer code? I return 0 for both but fear that there may be some software which expects real data. Soeren Gust

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simh help?

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

where do i get simh help? i'm trying to install VMS on a simh instance, and it doesn't seem to want to play nice. where do i get help for simh? the documentation is slim, and there seems to be no mailing list. help? -brian -- "I'd say don't quit your day job, but you're pretty lousy at that too." -Bender

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Cool Stuff

by jrice54＠charter.net

Just barely off topic, I got a load of cool stuff yesterday. I bought an original Canon 17" monitor, an object.station 41 bezel new in wrapper, a prototype intel Pentium Overdrive preocessor that is listed on intel's site as never released, a replacement ISA/VESA bus riser card for the object.station, and a mouse/keyboard new in wrapper for the object.station. The monitor completes one of my object.stations while the other is now complete except for the proper Canon monitor. The Canon PS2 keyboards with the unix key layout and the green NeXT keys are very hard to find as are the monitors. It's been a four year quest to located all of this stuff.

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ZX81 kits (was Re: Jupiter Ace)

by acme＠ao.net

From: Al Hartman <alhartman(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Jupiter Ace Date: 06/02/2003 1:13 PM > Stewart also still has ZX-81 kits for anyone who wants > to build one themselves. I think he sells them for > about $50.00US. May I suggest that you check Zebra's web site? Mr. Newfeld has these kits priced at *$99.95* A few years back he was listing them at $29.95. I bought a couple, and so did some friends. He immediately raised the price to $39.95, then $49.95, and finally the ridiculous price of $99.95. He's been sitting on these damn kits since the early eighties, and the only explanation for the price increase is plain and simple greed. Glen Goodwin Orlando, FL USA 0/0

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Collectors worldwide, UNITE!

by toresbe＠ifi.uio.no

Over the weekend, a thought has been taking shape inside my head: What if we made a Grand Unified Union of Computing Collectors? Okay, GUUCC doesn't pronounce well. "Geeewkhkh". (shudder) How about Collector's International Association... Erm, nope. ;) International Computer Artifact Preservation Society! ICAPS sounds good. Or, if you totally disagree with it all, send a suggestion. OK, www.ipacs.org. What should it contain? -A member's directory with all the computers he/she owns -A directory of computers -A knowledge base revolving around all of the computers. For example, a user should be able to: Search for "6-611" 1 Machine found. Siemens 6-611 (198?) 1 Owner found. Tore S Bekkedal One would then click the entry link, and open up a window with pictures and specs etc, and there would be interesting links regarding that machine, downloadable boot images, etc, etc. If one clicked the owner, one would see other machines in his collection. There should also be a "Market" where people could exchange spares, and machines etc. Also an "Opportunities" "Map" where you could see pickup opportunities? Companies should be able to "Donate" to the organization whereupon an entry would appear on the "map". IPACS would also allow for sharing of storage space, people splitting the bill for major warehouses? Any suggestions, alterations, criticism, etc, etc, most welcome! -Tore "Why O why must I always write an interesting quote below my name? Can't I write something about toenails? Or are they interesting as well?"

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DEC RL02 anyone need one?

by aek＠spies.com

If anyone has a copy of the RL02 Technical Manual, I'd like to borrow it to add to the documentation archive.

22 years, 10 months

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New to list...

by jdickens＠ameritech.net

Hi new to list... just won a SUN 4/690mp... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3027472460&category=1121… * have hints on moving... * what in it based on the pictures... * wants to make an offer to buy it for more than i paid for it * any one would care to comment? really just interested in the HP box going to convert it to a scsi disk box for some of my other smaller machines... and the monitor and keyboard.. the rest is a bonus Sincerly James Dickens

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DEC RL02 anyone need one?

by aek＠spies.com

Can you scan fiche yet? -- No, that project is probably not going to happen this year. Too many other things going on right now.

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id this 88100/88200 CPU card?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I picked up a pile of cards yesterday at a scrap place. One of them has a Motorola XC81100RC25G and four XC88200RC25E ICs on it. I know the 88100 is a 32 bit RISC CPU and the others are 16k Cache/MMUs. The only other IC on the board appears to be a 24 pin PAL but it has a label on it so I can't read the part number. The baord itself has three high density connectors on the bottom and is marked "Motorola Inc (c) 1989" and measures ~4 1/2" x 8 1/2" and has 6 mounting holes around three sides. Anybody know what it might be for? Joe

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QBUS board ID time

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 29, 17:28, Greg Elkin wrote: > The chap at Baydel (Leatherhead, UK) said he'd been there for years > (25 or more) and had seen them through making whole PDP11 systems > (apart from DEC CPUs) to their current range of NAS & SCSI RAID etc That was probably David Vallance. He was really helpful. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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