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Lee,
I'm posting a copy of this on the CC list as well as replying directly
to you since this is of interest to several of the list members.
At 11:20 PM 6/11/03 +0100, you wrote:
>Hello Joe,
>
>> I missed the first part of this thread but if you're talking about HP
>> 9121 disk drives ...
>
>We were. I dragged one out of a dumpster on Sunday.
Oh. I did see your message about that.
As far as I can see
>the only thing wrong is a crack in the case top where someone stood on
>it.
I just tossed a complete but GRUNGY 9121 in the trash. If you want the
case let me know before the trashman gets here and I'll rescue it for you.
It was FILTHY. The outside cleaned up pretty well but bugs had been living
inside and it was full of dirt and debris. I took it apart and tried to
clean it up but finally gave up in disgust. The drives were packed full of
crud. I cleaned them as best as I could without going through a complete
rebuild. One drive seems to work but the head wouldn't seek on the other
and it's pulling too much current. Both had gobs of stuff wound up on the
lead screw and that may be what's jamming it. I spent several hours working
on the thing and finally decided that it just wasn't worth the trouble so I
tossed the whole mess.
>
>> What kind of docs are you looking for?
>
>I'm looking for the Amigo and/or SS/80 protocoll docs so I can roll my
>own code to drive the HP 9121 from a PC using an HP-IB card. I just
>want to test the thing, it would be nice if it works.
Well you're in the right place at the right time. We were discussing
these protocalls on the list a few weeks ago. Peter Brown asked some
questions some of the protocalls and that's what started that entire
discussion. Frank McConnel scanned and posted one of the protocalls on a
web site. Contact him and ask about the address. I THINK it was the SS-80
protocall. Peter is working on a program to read CS-80 disks on a PC via a
GPIB card and he has a working version of it. He's sent me a copy but I
have to set up a W'98 machine to run it on. I think Peter wants to add
Amigo and SS-80 support in addition to the CS-80. ALSO FWIW several of us
including Steve Robertson have been playing around with the old HP 1000
computers and are writing our own operating system for it. Steve has
written a driver for the CS-80 hard drives and has it working (crude but
workable he says).
Also I've been playing around with the old HP LIF Utilities. LIF stands
for Logical Interchange Format and was widely used by HP for some of their
early disk drives. LIF is a real simple format and it's also like the old
tape format. HP has now placed the LIF Utils in the public domain and you
can download them from HP for free. The utils are supposed to alow you to
read, write, initialize and format LIF disks on a PC but the other day I
noticed that it also said that it would support LIF disk drives connected
to a PC via a HP-IB card so I decided to try it. I've played with that a
little but I haven't been able to get it to work. I posted a question about
it on the list a couple of days ago but didn't get any responses. I got the
PC to recognize the drive but it keep saying that the disk was
incompatible. I used THE SAME drive and disk with a HP-85 so I know they're
compatible. I don't think the HP-85 writes a LIF format so I can understand
why the PC couldn't read the disk but I should have been able to format and
initialize it but couldn't so there's something else going on. I was using
a National Instruments GP_IB card and that might be the problem but the
utils recognized it and didn't complain about it so I don't know for sure.
I some HP HP_IB cards so I'll have to install one, find the drivers for it
and see if that's the problem but that's going to take some time too.
I've got several projects cooking right now that take priority but when I
get time I'm dabbing around with trying to interchange files between the
HP-85, 9000 200s and a PC. I've done some work on it but at the moment I'm
mostly just gathering up drives, systems and SW to try out. When I get
everything I'll sit down and do some serious research. FWIW I can read a
disk written by a HP-85 on a 82901 disk drive in a PC drive using LIF but
the programs are stored in a tokenized format so it comes out as mostly
garbage. There's no option on a 85 to save the program files in an ASCII
format but there is one in the HP 9000 200s so I should be able to trasnfer
files between the 9000 200s and a PC via sneaker net. One the things that
I'm going to try is to read a tokenized HP-85 file into a 9000 200 (or
something else like an Integral PC) and then resave it in an ASCII format
so that it can be transferred to a PC.
So there you go. Lots of avenues to pursue! Let me know what you come up
with.
>
>Then I'll have to get an HP computer.
Good! Go to it. A LOT of HP computers support that HP 9121 drive. The
HP 85*, 86, 87 or any of the HP 9000 200 or 300 series. I'm sure that many
of the newer 9000 series also support it but I'm not familar enough with
them to tell you which ones.
* The original HP-85 needs a Mass Storage ROM but the 85B has it built
in. I think all the 86s and 87s have it built in.
Joe
Hi
More back on subject, the MRAM looks like it is
a non-distructive read, unlike the core.
Back on cores:
It seems like they also used a 1/2 opposite
inhibit while doing reads to give them a little
more noise margine. This way, cores without a
x or y would have a 1/2 wrong way and those
with only x or y driven would have 1/2 positve.
The matching would get 2 - 1/2 or a full 1.5
write. Both X and Y would be driven with the
average Im, of all of the cores, and not half.
Dwight
Well today I got the last piece of news about starting my non-profit museum
here in Texas and I have got all the official okays from Austin (Secretary
of State and Texas Comptroller). Now all that is left is to get the
non-profit status ok from the IRS. I hope to start fund rising here in Texas
first since they can get tax right off here and then nationwide after I get
the IRS OK. So far my only cost was a $25 fee to the State plus the cost of
priority mail. The IRS is going to be a little more costly with a minimum
fee of $500 to file. Since I still do not have a job it's hard to spend that
kind of cash right now but the cost of keeping the collection is getting
higher and higher plus no one can really se it right now.
> These drives are notorious for having broken mounts at
> the heads.
The only damage is a crack in the back of the case top
where someone planted his/her size 12 boot on it.
Everything else is intact, even the cageless fan.
Cheers,
Lee.
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I have been monitoring this new problem for a few days. Actually,
it first surfaced weeks ago, but I had zero time to look into it.
Anyway, I have a three drive Smoke Signal Broadcasting disk system,
in which one drive, 2 (last one on 0,1,2 chain), has this nasty whine
when
powered on. The other two drives work and sound fine.
The faulty one's driver motor never stops when powered on whereas the
other two do. The others must have the last one due to the terminator
which functioned correctly in the chain. I have managed to pull the bad
drive and managed to get the two working ones to work with terminator
resister moved to drive 1. I put 2's (bad drive) large electronics board
onto 1's drive mechanism and it works fine. That leaves 2's drive
mechanism
as being bad; either the small circuit board or the drive motor.
Also, when 2 is selected the red LED does light up, but no diskette can
be read.
Something is forcing the drive motor to stay on or the drive motor
itself is defective.
Any suggestions? I plan to put 1's (good drive) small electronics board
onto 2's drive mechanism to see if the drive motor control or the drive
motor itself is bad. Left my soldering iron at work. :^(
While dumpster diving at the end of a radio rally (what,
doesn't everyone do this?) I found, in with the usual PC
scrap, an HP 9121 dual disk unit.
The unit powers and a small LED flashes five times but
that's as far as I've got because I've not got anything
to plug it into.
I take it I can use DSDD 3.5" disks in this and that with a
General Instrument HPIB card and some hand rolled code I can
try it out. Anyone done this? Any pointers to where to start?
Any online docs for the command set/protocols?
Cheers,
Lee.
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>From: "Brian Chase" <vaxzilla(a)jarai.org>
>
>On Wed, 11 Jun 2003, TeoZ wrote:
>
>> Never heard of the lower pressure before. I thaught humans breath
>> because of the buildup of co2. So lowering the pressure and just using
>> oxygen wouldnt help much would it? Besides 100% oxygen makes things
>> that are normally low combustible highly combustible.
>
>Take a cubic meter of air at STP. Remove all the non-essential gasses,
>leaving only the oxygen behind. You'll end up with same amount of
>oxygen necessary to support human life, but the overall pressure will
>be lower owing to the lack of those useless gasses.
>
>Well, that's my educated guess at least.
>
>-brian.
>
Hi
Brian is correct. They run the capsules at lower pressure
so that they don't have to make the skins as thick and can
reduce overall weight.
Humans also breath to bring in oxygen as well as to exhale
CO2. It is kind of a dual purpose.
Dwight
>From: "William Donzelli" <aw288(a)osfn.org>
>
>> Well I would be more worried about the guy with the methane farts next to me
>> then the stray pencil lead dust.
>
>NASA was also very concern about the conductive carbon dust or particles
>causing electrical problems.
>
>> Some of the things the russians did were low tech but usefull. Whose smart
>> idea was it to fill a capsule full of electical boxes with 100% oxygen
>> environment for no particular reason?
>
>There was a sound reason - use a high oxygen atmosphere, so you can lower
>the pressure inside the capsule and still have it breathable. With a
>lower pressure inside, the walls of the capsule can be much thinner,
>saving weight.
>
>William Donzelli
>aw288(a)osfn.org
>
Hi
The big error was having a bunch of wires dangling
through the hatch where they could get squished. The
oxygen was a contributing factor.
They were practicing in reduced atmosphere to look
for potential problems. As William stated, they needed
the increase oxygen level to keep from passing out.
I zero G, fire doesn't spread much.
Dwight
At 06:41 AM 6/11/03 +0100, you wrote:
>> It's going to be either SS/80 or Amigo protocol (I forget
>> which).
>
>From what I've found it's most likely Amigo
I have one HP manual that says that the 9121 uses the Amigo protocall
and another that says that it uses SS-80. However I believe that it is Amigo.
>
>> (I have some printed documentation from HP on this, which
>> I guard with my life -- it's that hard to find!).
>
>No chance of a .txt version?
What kind of docs are you looking for?
Joe
i have a DECstation 5000/125 system
(case,monitor,keyboard,mouse,cables,MAGMA SBUS I/O card). i don't know what
it is worth so please be honest if anyone wants to make an offer. i live in
San Diego California so think about shipping costs.
...real offers only please...
my email- philliphale(a)cox.net
Can anyone on the list that has set up a non-profit email me a copy of their
bylaws? Or tell me where I may see them online. Since the IRS says they are
public documents I hope someone could share what they put together with me.
Thanks in advance. Send to jrkeys at concentric.net
>From: "Hans Franke" <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de>
>
>> >If you want to talk about long lines, waits and delays, how about the
>> >DMV?
>
>> Heh Heh, I live in a small town. The wait at DMV is never more than
>> 5-10 mins. No stop lights either.
>
>Well, Munich is supposed to be a large city, still the
>waiting line is usualy less than 10 Minutes (*1) And
>best of all, they changed the line policies some time
>ago: As soon as you reachend the counter once, and you
>have to go for another counter, like paying a fee, you
>may jump the line when you return. So only one waiting,
>followed by a real express handling. It's a totaly new
>feeling.
>
>Gruss
>H.
Hi
At least the Santa Cruz DMV does have lines any more.
You take the number and sit down and read your mail
or whatever. They call you when you are next.
Dwight
"Fred N. van Kempen" <waltje(a)pdp11.nl> wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, Zane H. Healy wrote:
>
> > > Does anyone have a copy of MicroRSX V4.x which I can install
> > > on a MicroPDP-11/53 ? I have a very old version (label says
> > > V1 !) but although it will install on the /53, it freezes
> > > after the final reboot, probably when it hits some feature
> > > specific to the /53.
> >
> > Why on earth are you looking for a copy of MicroRSX? The system can run
> > RSX-11M or M+, either of which are far better.
>
> Yeah, well, the guy that owns the box used to run MicroRSX on it,
> and asked if it could be made to run that again.
>
> So, teh question is: is it around?
Sure. Just ask Mentec. They're still selling it.
http://www.mentec-inc.com/
Micro/RSX is at V4.6 currently.
Johnny
Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus
|| on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt(a)update.uu.se || Reading murder books
pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
From: Hans Franke <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de>
Subject: Re: ZX81 Kits (was:cctalk digest, Vol 1 #633)
Date: 06/10/2003 1:29 PM
> Jup, and understandable. I still have a hard time
> to get a complete picture here. I tried several times
> to order a bunch of ZX81s from him, back when he
> asked 29.95, and when the price rose to 49.95. I
> never got any reply. I tried eMail and since this
> didn't work Fax and finaly a real letter.
>
> And I wanted to buy more than just one little Kit.
>
> Now, I have a hard time to see any business minded
> structure (and the whish to earn money) in ignoring
> potential customers at all.
Well, I've done a certain amount of business with Mr. Newfeld, and every
transaction has been a little flaky around the edges: order (and prepay for)
two kits, only receive one, wrong product received, etc. The last time *he*
called *me* and told me about some obscure expansion devices he had "found"
in his warehouse, and did I want them? We agreed on a price, he charged my
Visa, and two months later I still had not received the merchandise. He then
stopped answering my phone calls and emails, and, sadly, I had to threaten
one of his subordinates over the phone in order to get Mr. Newfeld's
attention. Ultimately, he did not ship the promised goods, but sent something
else instead.
Also, I and others have made *very* generous offers to him concerning large
quantities of other merchandise he claims to have "mountains" of, and his
response has been to ignore us. No counter-offer, nothing but dead silence.
This is the behavior of someone who's "trying to make a living?" Seems
counter-productive to me . . . almost like some sort of weird power trip . . .
Glen Goodwin
Orlando, FL USA
0/0
> The MA [ == Massachusetts ] RMV, OTOH, made me sign up *5 weeks* in
> ...
> That was about 10 years ago, though, and I think they're doing much
> better now.
They are indeed. Since I moved back from Manhattan (late '98) I've
rarely had to wait more than 10 minutes for anything. In this period
I've been in there quite a few times registering two different cars,
taking the test for a motorcycle permit, registering a bike, etc.
It's still a gummint bureaucracy, but I have to say it's not a half
bad service they're running these days.
--Steve.
smj(at)spamfree.crash.com (lose spamfree to get through, m'kay?)
Just a thought, there is a festival coming up this next month for Apple II wackos, I'm thinking of actually going. It is in Kansas and is apparently called KFest, oh how original. Anyway, it would be neat to go and save money, if someone from Denver or CO (or Utah) is going, maybe I can hook up and carpool to save some money. Apparently Steve Wozniak is going to conduct the Keynote and be present for a good part of the week, the festival (or conference) is 5 days, with tutorials, old programming stuff, new, gettogethers, hang outs, get drunk and be silly kinda stuff.http://www.kfest.org/email me directly if you are going and want to carpool. (be smart, edit this address)Laterz
Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).
Possibly the idea was taken from the recent movie "The Dancer Upstairs", which is about the Sendero Luminoso in Peru. IIRC, in the movie they use a chicken to deliver dinamite. I know that the real Sendero did use a dinamite-carrying duck at least once.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:dwoyciesjes@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:50 AM
To: ClassicCMP
Subject: OT: Suicide chicken in NZ...
Apologies for this post, but I do recall there are some guys here from
Christchurch, NZ...
>from The Register...
Suicide chicken terrorizes NZ
- Kamikaze poultry the new face of international terror?
11 June 2003 12:25pm
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/31140.html
--
--- Dave Woyciesjes
--- ICQ# 905818
On Jun 10, 22:23, Eric Chomko wrote:
> I have been monitoring this new problem for a few days. Actually,
> it first surfaced weeks ago, but I had zero time to look into it.
>
> Anyway, I have a three drive Smoke Signal Broadcasting disk system,
> in which one drive, 2 (last one on 0,1,2 chain), has this nasty whine
> when
> powered on. The other two drives work and sound fine.
>
> The faulty one's driver motor never stops when powered on whereas the
> other two do.
Sounds like the motor control board is faulty.
> The others must have the last one due to the terminator
> which functioned correctly in the chain. I have managed to pull the
bad
> drive and managed to get the two working ones to work with terminator
> resister moved to drive 1.
The terminator should be on whatever drive is last in the chain (the
end of the ribbon cable).
> I put 2's (bad drive) large electronics board
> onto 1's drive mechanism and it works fine. That leaves 2's drive
> mechanism
> as being bad; either the small circuit board or the drive motor.
> Also, when 2 is selected the red LED does light up, but no diskette
can
> be read.
Motors sometimes burn out, but other faults are relatively uncommon.
These motors normally have three or four wires; two are the power, and
the other(s) are the tachometer signal back to the control board; this
tells the control board how fast the motor is going. The tacho may be
broken, but a faulty control board is more likely. If one of the other
drives uses the same motor you could try swapping, which at least would
tel you whether its the control board or the motor itself.
The whine is probably because the motor is running far too fast, and
that is why you can't read a disk. Don't let it run like this too long
or you'll damage the motor.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Hello,
My father has used his bondwell b310sx for the last 10 years or so.
It's 16 shades of grey lcd screen is beginning to go so I suggested he
get an external monitor to use as the screen instead.
However, while there is a vga output at the back where I have attached
the monitor noting appears on the screen of the monitor.
The b310sx seems to recognize that a monitor is attached by blanking the
lcd but nothing appears on the external monitor.
Does anyone have experiance with doing this?
Thanks for your time,
Mike
Hi,
I came across a whole boxful of Apple II cards at the weekend that I'd
forgotten I actually owned. Unfortunately nearly all of my Apple hardware is
too far buried to really dig out at the moment and play around with any of this
stuff, but there's still a few cards that I'd be interested in finding more
about if possible and getting necessary software for.
Card images [640x480 resolution and around 60KB or thereabouts] are at:
http://www.moosenet.demon.co.uk/temp/apple2
PAL Colour Card: No idea as to manufacturer; mainly analogue circuitry on
board plus the modulator and a bit of TTL. Am I likely to need software for
this to work with a UK TV?
IC Test Card: Made by a Japanese company called Fairy, given the 20-pin ZIF
socket that (I assume) goes with this, I imagine it's a tester for TTL logic
chips. Most of the card's logic is buried beneath black gloop with black
cardboard over the top, so who knows what's under there - the 40-pin chip with
the 'test OK' sticker on it has had the markings ground off too. Anyone heard
of one of these or have software for one?
Vitalograph card: I gather Vitalograph these days make medical equipment.
Whether this card is from the same company or not I don't know - and ideas what
the 3-pin (XLR?) connector would have hooked up to? Some TTL on board, some
OP-amp chips. 40-pin chip is a 6522. All chips are date-coded 1980 or 1981.
Z80 Card: Actually a "Z80 Card II" made by Creative. Presumably software
exists for one of these somewhere still. No on-board memory, and 4 unknown
DIP-switches in the lower-right corner. CPU is Z80-A, card seems to have been
made in late 1982.
ROM Card: No idea what this is; presumably the 6 ROMs (2716 chips) contain
utilities that could have been accessed under software control? No idea what
the switch at the rear edge of the card does either.
80-column card: Marked as 'Chinex' and made by Creative, presumably necessary
software for this still exists somewhere? Any ideas what the 'middle' connector
(with no cable attached) is for?
ZIF-socketed card ("unknown_04.jpg" on the website): The ZIF socket is a
28-pin unit. I'd say it was a programmer, but wouldn't it need an external 24V
(??) supply if that were true? The 40-pin chip is marked as "S6821P", whatever
one of those is. The first 3 of the switches are labelled as '16', the next 3
as '32' and the last 4 (overlapping by 1 with the previous 3) as '64'.
Card with 8 LEDs and 4 empty 16-pin DIL sockets ("unknown_02.jpg" on the
website): Any ideas? Possibly a joystick controller or something and the
joysticks plugged in via the DIL sockets? The two 40-pin chips are 6522's.
There's a back of 8 DIP-switches on board, plus a switch in the top-right which
just seems to enable or disable the LEDs as far as I can see.
Card with remote pushbutton switch ("unknown_03.jpg" on the website): All TTL
logic on board, ROM is a 2716 chip. Underside is labelled "Wild card". Anyone
seen one of these or know what it is?
cheers for any help or pointers on the above,
Jules
Re: Sunday, June 01, 2003
The 6610 has been outplaced and moved, and,
to a person who is decidedly a non-scrapper.
To all those that responded, Thanks.
John A.
I have a Slt 286 that powers up fine and was working fine. it has lotus, and
word on it and when i turned it on today it says insert setup disk into a: and
there is no way for me to get around it. i can't get to c:, please help
tim_goober(a)hotmail.com
I have a Wyse 386 PC available if anyone wants it. Its a WY3116SX-01. It
has 3.5 and 5.25 drives in it, and had an IDE hard drive, but I pulled
that a while ago (I will be happy to supply a replacement, I think it was
a 40 MB drive). I'm not sure how much RAM it has in it (probably 2, 4, or
8 MB, but I doubt any more than 8 MB). Also has a VGA video card it in.
I might have the config software as well, but I'll have to dig. I do have
the RJ-12 to Din-5 keyboard adaptor to enable you to connect a standard
AT keyboard to it.
If anyone wants it, just come pick it up, or cover shipping costs (from
Ridgewood NJ 07450).
It gets stripped and tossed if I don't hear from someone before the end
of the week.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>It
>helps bunches if you actually speak (or, at least, understand)
>English, unlike several people from apparently Korea who demanded
>their gramma was given a drivers license. Sadly, she didnt speak
>a word of English, couldnt read it either (so much for the YIELD
>sign..) and got into frantic-rage mode when made clear that she
>could not get a license, as she could not even be asked her
>name.
Here in NJ, the DMV drivers manuals are printed in English as well as
Spanish, and I think Arabic (possibly others as well). The exam is also
given in English or Spanish written, and with special reasons, English or
Spanish oral for people with reading problems (I wonder if that's a valid
excuse for ignoring speed limit signs? Sorry officer, I can't read, if
you would read the sign to me I'll be happy to obey it).
Of course, currently, almost all street signs of any kind are only
printed in English, so I guess once you pass the oral Spanish exam, you
are on your own for knowing what a sign says. (There are some parts of
some cities that post signs in Spanish, but they are not the norm).
And of course, when you NEED a drivers manual, the only ones the DMV ever
seems to have in stock are the Spanish ones.
Oh, and nothing beats the speedyness of the Trenton No-Fee DMV (a special
office for No-Fee registrations and plates). They had my reg and plates
ready before I could finish writing out the check. Yes, this is NJ DMV...
the only place you have to PAY for No-Fee registrations!!!
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
I just posted some new bounties of stuff I am seeking for a client. If
you've got these and are willing to part with them (at least for a
temporary amount of time) let me know.
Laboratory and Industrial Data Acquisition and Control (Strawberry Tree
Computers)
Lotus Measure: Data Direct to Lotus Spreadsheet
Lotus Comprehensive Developer Tools for 123 and Symphony
These and other bounties can be reviewed here:
http://www.vintagetech.com/index.html?section=bounty
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> May I suggest that you check Zebra's web site? Mr.
> Newfeld has these kits priced at *$99.95*
>
> A few years back he was listing them at $29.95. I
> bought a couple, and so
> did some friends. He immediately raised the price
> to $39.95, then $49.95, and
> finally the ridiculous price of $99.95. He's been
> sitting on these damn kits
> since the early eighties, and the only explanation
> for the price increase is
> plain and simple greed.
>
> Glen Goodwin
> Orlando, FL USA
> 0/0
Could be...
Being he is the last source of them.
Don't buy one, if you don't want one...
They were $50.00 last time I checked. Which was 2
years ago when I did a Trenton Computer Festival with
him, and helped him sell them from his booth.
Thanks for the update. I didn't know he raised the
price.
They ship from a warehouse in State College, PA. And
I'd guess he has to pay someone to fulfill the
orders...
He used to ship them from his offices in NYC, but no
more.
He does consulting now.
So, his costs have gone up (as far as storage, and
paying someone to pack and ship them...).
People who bought the kits at $29.95 got a deal. I
paid $100.00 for mine, and it was a good deal. (at the
time)
Knowing how much money Stewart lost in the Timex
Market when Timex quit, and in the Coco Market for
products we developed and then couldn't release (for
both platforms)...
I wouldn't call it greed. He could easily dumpster the
remaining kits and make MUCH more money doing other
things.
I guess you don't know Stewarts history as I do, so
you call it "greed".
Remember ORCH-80? It was a rip-off of Stewarts MUCH
BETTER Music Box. He got stuck with THOUSANDS of
Dollars of product that became unsellable, since the
Orch-80 was so much cheaper (a less sophisticated
design, and the sound wasn't at nice...), that it sold
BELOW the Music Boxes cost, AND with one SuperZap to
the Music Box Software, could use all the MB songs.
Not to mention all the S-100 Product he got stuck
with, AND the companion pieces, the Rhythym Box, which
now wouldn't sell because he wasn't selling Music
Boxes.....
I could tell you stories.
Stewart isn't quite greedy... But, definitely
interested in making a living, as we all are. No?
Al
trying find out exactly which part number can replace u6049b,which offered by
Atmel applicated in radiator fan control timer for car.
any one have any idea.
jackie
[demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type application/pdf which had a name of U6049B.pdf]
Greetings!
When I got home yesterday, waiting on my doorstep was a package I had
totally forgotten about. Someone sent me an original HP2000F Users Guide in
an HP binder :) WooHoo!
Also, I am on vacation this week, (a working vacation sort of, so no big
joy), but I will be a little harder to reach and slower to respond than
usual (yes, I can hear you all laughing now). Should be back to normal
monday.
Jay West
There is a _new_ type of memory being developed called MRAM, which uses
magnetic fields to store data.
An interesting quote from the article (to bring it on-topic):
"Magnetic fields have been used to store data since time immemorial,"
he joked. "We were using it in the early 1960s and 1950s."
The article can be found at:
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103_2-1014865.html
Cheers,
Bryan
On the "Turner Classic Movie" cable channel, at 3AM EST
tomorrow morning, _Hot_Millions_ will be shown. Made
in 1968, it's one of the first, if not the first, depection
of computer crime in a movie. I haven't seen it in many
years, but I seem to remember it being pretty amusing. I'm
going to try to record it. Here's the IMDB link:
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0063094
With Peter Ustinov, Maggie Smith and Karl Malden.
Bill
Hi all,
Been doing some more scrounging from the curbside, found an NEC APC
III. I thought at first it was just an XT style computer, but closer
inspection showed it was at least a little more unusual than that. The whole
inside of the system is filled up with descrete component boards pluged into a
coman bus system. I asume this is memory expansion, HDD and FDD drive. It was
significantly diferant from the standard XT hardware that I considered it was
at least worth a second look. If some one could give me some more info or
direct me to some long forgoten site with details of this machine I would
apreciate it. Otherwise I'll just "throw it on the pile" and keep it around
for good looks......
Peter T.
The old building of the Sunnyvale store (their first) was
a giant chip :)
==
That was their SECOND location in Sunnyvale. The first was two blocks
east, on the other side of Laurence Expr. MUCH smaller, but a larger
selection of useful stuff (like ICs).
I don't think I've been there more than three times since they moved
>from there.. It is such a hateful experience I'll go anywhere else
first.
I have one each parallel port and SCSI 100 mb zip drives (Iomega) with power
supplies and cables. $10 each + shipping or trade for older CPU processors.
Thanks Norm
I have a Sinclair ZX81 with the power supply and the 16K RAM module. Not
sure how to get working, but appears in good shape. Best order + shipping
or trade for old CPU processors.
Thanks Norm
I finally got my teletype pages in a reasonable condition. With
the recent discussions I thought people might be interested. Have
pictures, videos, and my stilted prose. Let me know if you have any
comments.
http://www.pdp8.net/asr33/asr33.shtml
Does anybody know what a ASR 33 cost around 1970?
Here's my fix for the gooey rubber print hammer
http://www.pdp8.net/asr33/pics/ph_top.shtml
And the resistors browning the power supply card.
http://www.pdp8.net/asr33/pics/ccu_left.shtml
David Gesswein
http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Run an old computer with blinkenlights.
Have any PDP-8 stuff you're willing to part with?
Yesterday I drove about 250 miles (round trip) to get a small truckload
of old computers and parts. The partial list is below:
Various manuals including, but not limited to:
Teletek FDC-1, SBC-1, System Master, SBC 86/87 guides and others
Digital Research Assembler and Tools manual, Macro Assembler Manual and
Link-80 manual
Turbodos (various manuals)
Lync Telecom (Manuals, disk, etc.)
Peak 68K S-100 card docs
Soroc IQ130 Operators Guide
MPM OS Guide, Users Guide, Programmers Guide.
Western Digital FDC 1771m 1791 datasheets
CP-Net Network OS guide
Jameco JE664 EPROM Programmer Manual
Solid State Music PBI and IO4 Manuals
Heathkit H-88 Operators Manual
Godbout/Compupro Product User Manuals 1975-1980 (bound)
A variety of N* manuals including MDS-A and MDS-A-D, DOS, System SW and
others
Zilog 82/83 data book
ST506 OEM and Service manuals
Books including:
TV Typewriter Cookbook (from Radio Shack)
Intro to Microcomputers (1976 - Osborne)
Z-80 How To Program - Zaks
8088/8086 programming - Cofferton
Tons of disks (at least 100 each of 5.25" and 8" and a hand full of
3.5") including:
Minix on 5.25
Turbodos Boot, etc.
Basic/C-basic versions
Sourcer 5.25
Modula-II 5.25
Turbo-Pascal 5.25 and 8"
OS-88 5.25 (about 15-20 disks)
CP/M (8")
3 S-100 computers
1 tall rackmount chassis with 2 8" drives and 1 Hard Drive
1 shorter rackmount chassis with 2 8" drives but no cards
1 shorter rackmount with 1 N* 5.25" and several cards
About 6-10 loose S-100 cards including IMS 8K and 4K RAM, a partial
populated 86/87 card and a few others.
Other machines
1 Heathkit H-19 terminal in good condition
1 Zenith H-88 or H-89 equivalent, beat to piss but maybe reparable.
2 AT class (I think) clones.
Misc:
Some DC300XL tapes
A pile of MM5257N-3 parts (I have no idea what they are)
Lantastic-Z package with cables, software, docs, etc.
A really neat National Semiconductor Series 32000 kit including docs,
spec sheets, data sheets and some chips.
I even got a nearly full box of Greenbar
I haven't had a chance to clean or power up any of the machines, nor
have I really looked at all of the disk labels to see what software
there is. All that will take some time.
Once I do that I'll just have to figure out what to do with everything!
:)
Erik Klein
www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum
The Vintage Computer Forum
>From: "Tore Sinding Bekkedal" <toresbe(a)ifi.uio.no>
>
>I have recently bought colour tape for the 33.
>
>The printer has a black substance that pushes the printhead towards the
>paper. This has dissolved into an oily-like thing, and there is zero
>pressure for the head against the paper. I will try to put a licorice
>candy (L?kerol) in its place as a kludge, but it very likely won't last.
>Do you know what causes it? Where to get a new one? Is that SUPPOSED to
>happen?'
>
>Confused Regards
>
>-Tore
>
Hi
I've seen this happen to others but mine did just
the opposite. The rubber turned to brittle stuff and
crumbled.
I guess the issues is that like some plastics, rubber
just doesn't last.
I think the stick on feet idea is the best home remedy.
Dwight
From a local SIG list.
I am not affiliated yadda yadda
Doc
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Siglinux] Symbolics Lisp machine to a good home
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 17:21:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mark <mindfunk(a)mindfunk.net>
Reply-To: SIGLinux GNU/Linux Users Group <siglinux(a)utacm.org>
To: siglinux(a)utacm.org
Anyone want a symbolics lisp machine. It worked as of 6 months ago. I
don't have any time to invest at the moment to it, So, I'm looking for a
good home for it.
It's free, but you have to come get it. I live in ft. worth. Bring many
people with you.
namaste,
Mark
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Well the Commodore CD-1000 CDTV box came today and now the search starts for
the mouse, 3.5 FD, remote control, keyboard, and monitor for it. Also the
manuals for it. There is a good write-up and pic's of it at
www.cdtv.org.uk/1254.html.
It's based on the Amiga with a 68000 @ 7.14Mhz chip. Anyone having extra
parts for this computer that they do not need contact me off list.
> Focus Systems makes scan converters to go from VGA or RGB to an
> assortment of things. IIRC, one of their products was a translucent LCD
> panel that you put on an overhead projector for showing the image of your
> computer screen.
>
> This sounds very much like the scan converter box for that LCD panel. I
> would not at all be surprised if it is really just a fancy RGB to VGA
> converter and can probably be plugged into any VGA monitor.
Thanks - I wondered whether that was actually VGA output too. I don't know what
frequencies the Mac II outputs - but I was hoping the box might buffer each
line of video and do something intelligent with it before spitting it out to
the LCD connector, but it doesn't look like it given the chips that are in
there.
Still, I do have a Mac II somewhere so might hang onto it as-is, or failing
that the metal case might come in handy and as interface box for something!
cheers
Jules
>From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com>
>
>On Sat, 7 Jun 2003, Jim Davis wrote:
>
>> You will be treated like crap at all levels of any transaction at fry's.
>> Expect, No, assume that
>> any advertised product will be out of stock, that the pepsi machine
>> will of be of more help
>> then the sailsdroids. Don't even think about using a check, unless you
>> have about an hour or
>> two to wait ( I AM NOT KIDDING ), Check all the packages, as frys simply
>> returns
>> defective and returned products to the shelves. Returns? Plan on
>> spending the day.
>> Need I say more?
>
>And that's on a GOOD day!!!
>
Hi
First, one needs to realize that Fry's is a discount store.
They do everything as cheap as they can. They do not hire
sales people with computer knowledge. I don't expect them
to answer any question more complicated than "where is
such-an-such?". They are require, now, by law to mark items
that have been returned as such. Most items that have been
returned are working and have nothing wrong with them. They
do not have in store personal that can test everything in
the store.
I often buy return items when on sale. I expect to test them
when I get them. I have only had one bad item that was re-wrapped.
They replaced it without question( they may have put it back
on the shelf ). It did take time standing in line.
I guess it is mostly expectations. One can often find most
any of their items cheaper, someplace else. Unless you happen
to be at that someplace else, it isn't worth the gas to look
for it.
As for people ripping them off, their biggest problem has
and always will be with the store personal.
Dwight
Hi,
Just came across a little 5x5x1" high metal box with the following connectors
on it:
15-pin connector labelled "to computer"
15-pin connector labelled "to monitor"
15-pin high-density connector labelled "to LCD panel"
connectors for "power in" and "power out"
It's badged as being made by In Focus Systems, "For Macintosh II" and model
"A-35C".
Before I just trace it inside to see what it does I thought I'd ask here about
it - maybe someone knows exactly what it is. Presumably some sort of frequency
convertor unit; any ideas what LCD panel connected to it and the specs of it? I
was hoping it would actually contain some sort of buffer memory inside (and
might come in handy for something else with a bit of hacking), but it seems
not. Chips inside are standard logic / timers, a couple of 8-pin "7660CPA"
chips (whatever those do), and analogue sections for R, G and B. Chip dates are
all within 1990.
May still prove useful for something one day anyway!
cheers
Jules
>Just came across a little 5x5x1" high metal box with the following connectors
>on it:
>
> 15-pin connector labelled "to computer"
> 15-pin connector labelled "to monitor"
> 15-pin high-density connector labelled "to LCD panel"
> connectors for "power in" and "power out"
>
>It's badged as being made by In Focus Systems, "For Macintosh II" and model
>"A-35C".
Focus Systems makes scan converters to go from VGA or RGB to an
assortment of things. IIRC, one of their products was a translucent LCD
panel that you put on an overhead projector for showing the image of your
computer screen.
This sounds very much like the scan converter box for that LCD panel. I
would not at all be surprised if it is really just a fancy RGB to VGA
converter and can probably be plugged into any VGA monitor.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>