- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by ken＠seefried.com

>And microchannel; don't forget microchannel. The original "plug and play" >(except _it_ worked...) > >On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Geoff Reed wrote: > >> At 10:24 PM 7/22/03 -0400, you wrote: >> >> >Nosiree. Any PC, any RS/6000, really, any machine with PCI can do token >> >ring. >> >> Token ring didn't require PCI bus, I have some ISA Token ring cards around >> here somewhere > I've seen (at least) Multibus-I, Sun SBus & VMEBus token ring as well.

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Breaking News

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

Wednesday, July 23, 2003, 9:20 PM EST Re: Breaking News Hi Dwayne, > If this happened in Mosul then OH-58's would be ours. Had not heard about > their involvment. OK, I'll bite. How would you not know about their involvement? > Oh...and I am only 1/2 south of Mosul in a Quiet, Quaint, little Quandry > of a place. Did you mean "1/2 hour south". You are still at the abandoned airfield, right? Could you expand a little on "Quiet, Quaint, little Quandry"? > And I went to Mosul on Monday and Today (Wed) In one sense, I would have preferred not knowing that. Yeah, I know there are water runs, mail runs, etc. There have been quite a few news articles in the last 24-36 hours. I saved a lot of them until they got just too repetitive. I was going to say that I stand corrected with regards to the number of soldiers killed since May 1. I read one article iearlier today that reported numbers in the high 80's, low 90's (can't find the article at the moment) and then another article states 41 since May 1. I suspect I/we may be confusing combat versus combat/accident/illness. I am gonna close this out now and start another one. I have been feeling overwhelmed with all this recent news. My reaction is to break it down and deal with it in chunks. More soon, Dad

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8-inch disk drives

by melamy＠earthlink.net

actually, a point of history is that the 320K disks were still formatted for nine sectors. IBM, for some reason known only to them, filled the ninth sector with all "IBM" if I remember correctly. It has been 21 years since I did this, but I remembered wondering why in the heck they didn't bother to use the ninth sector they formatted. Maybe they were holding it close to them so they could release an "enhancement" that boosted the capacity to 360K. best regards, Steve Thatcher > >I am wonderign how on earth you can make a disk controller (note, not the >OS driver software, the physocal controller) that works correctly with a >9-sector-per-track format, but fails with the 8 sector-per-track version, >all other parameters being the same. Because that's the only difference >between the 320K and 360K MS-DOS formats.

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Token ring (UK)

by mikeford＠socal.rr.com

At 10:48 PM 7/22/03 -0400, vance(a)neurotica.com wrote: >What about Thomas-Conrad? I think I have a case of new in the box Arcnet cards etc by them.

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VCF Gazette Volume 2, Issue 1

by vcf＠siconic.com

VCF Gazette Volume 2, Issue 1 A Newsletter for the Vintage Computer Festival July 24, 2003 The VCF Gazette begins its second volume with this extra large issue. We've tried to stay fairly on schedule, but this issue has been delayed a bit due to lots (and I mean LOTS) of stuff going on. So, without further ado... In this issue: Yet Again, a New (Permanent?) Home for the VCF Archives VCF 6.0 Commodore 64 Parallel Super Computer Project Commodore 64 Prototype Up for Auction at VCF 6.0 Coming in August: The VCF Marketplace! Planning for VCF East 2.0 VCF Producer to Speak at XGDX VintageTech Launches e-Cycle PDP-8 Replica Project New VCF Donation Program Latest Additions to the VCF Archives Yet Again, a New (Permanent?) Home for the VCF Archives ------------------------------------------------------- Ok, so some of you might have been eagerly anticipating the planned Open House that we were supposed to have last December, which got delayed due to the move by the Alameda County Computer Resource Center, the fine folks that have been hosting the Archive for the last two years. Well, forget everything we said in the last issue. The VCF is proud to announce its new--and hopefully permanent--home for the VCF Archives. We've acquired a lease on a 4,560 square foot office/warehouse in Livermore, California. The new facility has a grade level roll-up door, a loading dock (for the big stuff), and lots of space to store lots of old computers. The VCF staff has been busily packing and moving the archive from the old facility to the new. As of this writing, most of the collection (60 pallets worth plus an additional 20+ SUV loads) has been moved already, with a couple more truckloads to go to finish the move. The collection has certainly grown much larger than was realized in the time we've been at the ACCRC. Once the remainder of the collection is moved over, the real work begins. It will take several months to a year to fully sort and catalog the collection, something we've been trying to accomplish for years now. However, this time it's different. With a new venture (see below) and a new focus, we intend to achieve this goal and finally establish a world class computer history research facility for hobbyists, researchers, and the business community to utilize and enjoy. We'll keep you posted on our progress. VCF 6.0 ------- Hooray! The sixth annual Vintage Computer Festival has been scheduled for October 11th and 12th. The Computer History Museum will again be hosting the event, but this time at their spacious new home. Being that this is the 20th anniversary of the Commodore 64, it is being honored as the theme computer for this year's event. We expect to have some great Commodore 64 exhibits and, if enough people pull together, perhaps we can finally complete the long-awaited C64 parallel supercomputer. We've also got an amazing auction being planned: a rare Commodore 64 prototype (serial #19) will be auctioned during the VCF weekend. See below for more information on each of these news items. With a larger budget and a desire to push the envelope of the VCF, we expect this year's event to be the best and biggest yet. Help make this year's VCF a success by contributing a talk or exhibiting your favorite old computer. Call For Speakers One of the most enjoyable aspects of the VCF is the series of superb talks we assemble year after year. We've got some excellent sessions already lined up, but we're looking for more. Have you got an interesting computer history topic or workshop you'd like to present at the Vintage Computer Festival? Let us know! Send your abstracts to <vcf(a)vintage.org>. Exhibit at the VCF Exhibitor's at the VCF enjoy a special status. Not only do they get all the attention, as well as ribbons and prizes for their award- winning exhibits, they also get to be part of the behind-the-scenes action at the VCF. Along with the speakers, the exhibitors are the VIPs of the VCF. Learn more about exhibiting here: http://www.vintage.org/2003/main/exhibit.php Buy, Sell and Trade at the VCF Marketplace As always, one of the most exciting aspects of the VCF is the Marketplace, where you can find a large and varied assortment of some of the most fantastical old computer thingies anywhere. Find that odd part you've been seeking out for your collection, then touch, smell, even taste it if you like, before haggling out a deal. There is simply no better place to buy and sell vintage computers than at the VCF Marketplace. For more information on selling at VCF 6.0, please visit: http://www.vintage.org/2003/main/vendor.php Stay tuned for more information about special events at the VCF. Get the latest updates at the VCF 6.0 website: http://www.vintage.org/2003/main/ Commodore 64 Parallel Super Computer Project -------------------------------------------- In 1999, the VCF envisioned connecting 64 Commodore 64 computers together to form one massively parallel Commodore 64 Super-Computer. The project has sputtered and stalled but the vision has never died. So this, being the 20th anniversary of the launch of the Commodore 64, makes it imperative that we finally deliver on this vow to do what no normally sane group of individuals would waste their time on. Power supplies will die, chips will burn out, and nerds will struggle over implementation details, but do this we must! To find out about how you can contribute to this project, please visit: http://www.vintage.org/projects.php Commodore 64 Prototype Up for Auction at VCF 6.0 ------------------------------------------------ What's cooler than 64 Commodore 64's tied together to form a massively parallel supercomputer? How about an original Commodore 64 prototype? At VCF 6.0, the VCF will auction off a pre-production Commodore 64, built in early 1982 just after the Winter CES, and harboring serial number 19. This is perhaps the rarest of all Commodore 64 computers, as no other prototype Commodore 64 units are known to exist. More information about this computer will be made available in the coming weeks, including photos and screen-shots. Auction registration will begin a couple weeks before VCF 6.0. Coming in August: The VCF Marketplace! -------------------------------------- We've been hinting at it for months, nay years, but it's finally come to fruition. The VCF Marketplace--THE place to buy, sell and trade vintage computers on the internet--will be open for business in August. The VCF Marketplace provides many innovative features, including a number of different selling methods. You can offer up an item for sale in several formats, hold an auction in one of several different formats, even list an item for trade, for give-away, or even for lending! You choose the format that best fits your preferences or needs on a per listing basis. The VCF Marketplace will be a veritable vintage computer bazaar. We've deployed one of the most powerful search engines on the net. You'll be able to search on a specific make and model of computer hardware, a specific vendor and title of software, a specific title and author of a book, and so forth. No more will you have to wade through dozens or even hundreds of irrelevant hits to find what you're looking for. Also available are invaluable notification features. You can program the service to alert you the very moment an item you've been desperately seeking gets posted. Take advantage of the personal inventory functions, allowing you to manage your computer collection online and share photos and information with other collectors (a free service!) Future phases will include store fronts for volume sellers, realtime online pricing guides (instantly generated from past sales data) and registry features (track the lineage of your most prized old computers). To celebrate our launch, the service will initially be free to all users for the first six weeks. After that, the site is still free to use for most sellers, with very reasonable fees for volume sellers. A separate announcement will be sent out when the Marketplace is officially launched. Stay tuned for further details! Planning for VCF East 2.0 ------------------------- Knock! Knock! <and you say, "Who's there?"> VCF! <and you say, "VCF who?"> VCF East 2.0! That's who, silly! That's right, the much anticipated follow-up to the first east coast VCF in 2001 is being planned for April of 2004. You poor denizens of the right coast vintage computer collecting scene have been starved long enough. The economy still sucks, and you're probably still out of a job, but we're going to forge ahead and finally fulfill our promise to return. Much more details are of course to come, and we've still got to nail down a date and place, but we've got plenty of time, and we've got to get VCF 6.0 out of the way first. But don't fret, this time we mean it: VCF East 2.0 is coming! Your feedback is warranted at this point. The Boston area is still being considered as the location, but enough noise from enough people in the same place can certainly put other locales in the running. Let use know where YOU'D like VCF East to be. Send your comments and suggestions to <vcf(a)vintage.org>. VCF Producer to Speak at XGDX ----------------------------- VCF Producer Sellam Ismail will be giving a talk on the history of video games at the next Xtreme Game Developers Xpo. The talk will cover the first video game system, Tennis for Two, developed at the Brookhaven National Laboratory in 1958, plus Spacewar! (1962), the Magnavox Odyssey (the first home video game system circa 1972) and Nolan Bushnell's Computer Space (1970) and Pong (1972), the games that launched the video arcade industry. The talk will include video clips, screen shots, and even actual demonstrations with original hardware of some of the games and systems discussed. The Xtreme Game Developers Xpo is the premier gathering for developers, programmers, designers and anyone with a passion for video games. This year's event is being held September 6-7 at the Santa Clara Convention Center in Santa Clara, California. XGDX is open to the public and is targeted to all levels of Game Developer, from the new game programmer to the seasoned professional. There will be approximately 20-25 technical lecture sessions and roundtable discussions scheduled each day. If you've attended in the past then you know that this conference is all about people sharing a common passion: the creation ofi video games. How will this year be different? More sessions, more peers, more opportunities to benefit >from the knowledge and experience of others in a select community. What hasn't changed? The belief that providing a forum where people in every aspect of the gaming community can gather, interact, share, and learn, will produce extraordinary results. To celebrate the inauguration of XGDX (formerly the XGDC), all attendees who pre-register online prior to August 1 will receive a $250 library of Game Development books free from Premier Press (you must attend the event to receive your lirbary in person). For more information, or to register online, please visit the XGDX website: http://www.xgdx.com/ VintageTech Launches e-Cycle ---------------------------- VintageTech, the VCF's historical computing consulting firm, has just launched a new service to serve its local community. Electronic waste has become a major issue in California and throughout the nation as well. Discarded computers and consumer electronics--basically anything containing a printed circuit board--can no longer be simply tossed in the trash due to the toxic elements teeming inside of them. To serve the need for electronic waste recycling, VintageTech has launched a new electronic waste recycling service called e-Cycle. e-Cycle serves the electronic waste recycling needs of the Tri-Valley area of California's Silicon Valley. More information can be found on the e-Cycle website: http://www.ecycle.info/ To find out more about electronic waste recycling in your area, your best bet is to do a web search. Not all localities are served by recycling facilities, and there may not even be requirements in your area to recycle discarded electronics. But you should start getting into the habit of finding sensible alternatives to the landfill for your obsolete electronics because there will soon come a day when it will be required. Suggestions for alternatives to the landfill: o Donate to local schools, churches, charities, or non-profits o Donate older hardware to local community college engineering departments for spare parts o Give or sell your old computers to local used computer resellers o Sell your old hardware on the Vintage Computer Marketplace ;) o Donate your vintage computers to a local collector, or to the VCF :) PDP-8 Replica Project --------------------- The VCF was hired to create a replica PDP-8 for an exhibit at the Federal Reserve Bank in Boston, Massachusetts. The replica is part of an exhibit that shows how computer technology changed the economy. The PDP-8, which defined the "mini-computer" class, is significant because it made it possible for small- and medium-sized businesses to own a computer. The PDP-8 replica will go on display at the Bank in the next several weeks. In the meantime, a photo gallery documenting the construction of the replica can be found here: http://www.vintage.org/gallery.php?grouptag=PDP-8 New VCF Donation Program ------------------------ In order to help defray the production costs of Vintage Computer Festival events, the VCF has begun a new donation program. Donations at various levels will be rewarded with VCF pins, t-shirts, and VIP passes to upcoming VCF events. Give enough and you can receive a lifetime VIP Pass to all future VCF events! Times are tough for the typical geek today, but if you can help, please visit the VCF donation page to learn more about this program: http://www.vintage.org/donate.php We greatly appreciate your support, in any form! Latest Additions to the VCF Archives ------------------------------------ We've added some very cool artifacts to the VCF Archives in recent months, including: o Sphere 6800 (the "first" all-in-one microcomputer circa 1975) o Basis 108 (German Apple ][ clone circa 1982) o MAC-8 microprocessor trainer (circa 1978) With any luck (and possibly with your help) we'll have the VCF Archives sorted, organized and catalogued within a year. Find out how you can contribute to this worthwhile project by sending an inquiry to <vcf(a)vintage.org>. And remember: almost everything in the VCF Archives is available for loan to hobbyists and researchers. Let us know if you'd like to borrow something for a project or some academic research and we'll be happy to help you out. That wraps it up for this issue of the VCF Gazette! Until next time... Best regards, Sellam Ismail Producer Vintage Computer Festival http://www.vintage.org/ The Vintage Computer Festival is a celebration of computers and their history. The VCF Gazette goes out to anyone who subscribed to the VCF mailing list, and is intended to keep those interested in the VCF informed of the latest VCF events and happenings. The VCF Gazette is guaranteed to be published in a somewhat irregular manner, though we will try to maintain a quarterly schedule. If you would like to be removed from the VCF mailing list, and therefore not receive any more issues of the VCF Gazette, visit the following web page: http://www.vintage.org/remove.php I'M a PEACH ;) -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Sunshine EPROM programmer for Apple II

by ian_primus＠yahoo.com

While cleaning, I ran across an old EPROM programmer for an Apple II computer. The only label on it is "Sunshine". Searching on the 'net has turned up nothing on this card, but some information on the PC version of the programmer. An EPROM programmer would be a very useful thing for some of the projects I would like to work on, but I don't have any software or information on this card. Does anyone have the software or manual or any information on this? Thanks! Ian Primus ian_primus(a)yahoo.com

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Data Systems Design DSD-880 8" floppy and hard drive?

by fm.arnold＠gmx.net

>Message: 39 >Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 06:59:49 >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> >Subject: Re: Data Systems Design DSD-880 8" floppy and hard drive? >Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > >At 10:19 PM 7/22/03 -0400, you wrote: >>>Bob Shannon wrote: >> >>> The DSD boxes I used do not emulate DEC drives, and made the 45 meg hard >>> drive >>> available as a single device. >> >>Jerome Fine replies: >> >>As far as I know, the DSD 880/8 and the DSD 880/30 all used >>only a Qbus controller. And they accepted the standard DEC >>device drivers in RT-11. >> Ok, I can enhance this info somewhat. I used both DSD 880 -8 and -30. (with great pleasure!) They interfaced via a 26 pin flatcable to a host Adapter, and I had both adapters for Q-bus and Unibus. Q-bus adapter was 22-bit. (in fact, we used a 25 pole data-switch in this flat-cable to switch this storage-system between 2 machines, as desired) I used this storage subsystem under RSX11-M with standard drivers, DSD provided a utility diskette with some handouts about RSX and RT and some driver-patches (eg for 8-meg extended RL01, or RX03) that I never used. Should have this disk still sopmewhere. Any interest? If it is an DSD880 for pdp11, then the emulation is RX / RL. If it is emulating MSCP its probably the DSD 9xx series of devices. DSD440 is a dual 8" floppy, in 5" enclosure (Half RX02-formfactor!) and providing RX01, -02, -03 emulation for all DEC OS's of those days. I remember there were also adapters for other architectures / busses, DSD did not limit the 440 or 880 to DEC-machines. >>There may have been other DSD boxes in addition the the DSD 880 >>and DSD 440, but I had not heard about them, let alone the details. > > FWIW I was looking through my Intel docs last night and found a manual >for a DSD Multibus hard drive controller. > I think there was also an adapter for some Motorola 68k based system... Frank Arnold

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Data Systems Design DSD-880 8" floppy and hard drive?

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

> Actually, for device I/O, it doesn't matter whether >one is using 16, 18, or 22 bit addressing. The PDP-11 >I/O page is defined as from 28KW-32KW, which is entirely >within the range of 16bit addressing. Actually, the I/O page is defined as the highest 8kb (4kw) in memory. For a 16-bit machine, that is indeed 28kw-32kw. But it is not correct for an 18-bit or 22-bit machine. The best way to think of it is simply 8kb which is discontiguous with, and above, the available memory. Access to it is triggered by use of '1' in the high-order 3 places of a sixteen bit address. Of course if you have MMGT turned on, then these bits simply select the appropriate page, which may or may not be the I/O page. Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: mbg at world.std.com | | Member of Technical Staff | megan at savaje.com | | SavaJe Technologies, Inc. | (s/ at /@/) | | 100 Apollo Drive | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Chelmsford, MA 01460 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (978) 256 6521 (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ Formerly with DEC/Compaq/HP

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Data Systems Design DSD-880 8" floppy and hard drive?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Anybody know anything about a DSD-880 8" floppy and hard drive unit made by Data Systems Design? (Black rack mount box about 6" high and 28" deep.) I found several of them today. I'm pretty certain that they came off of a system tester or circuit board tester based on a DEC computer. The units had a Shugart 800-1 8" SSDD floppy drive and a Quantum Q2040 8" hard drive in them and a INTERESTING looking front panel that said "Hyper Diagnostics" or something like that. I bought a HUGE lot of 8" floppy disks from the same place. They almost certainly came from the same systems. The disks contained RT-11 and RSX. I found that some of the disks had the driver and diagnostics for the DSD-880. Also found copies of distribution disks for RT-11 and RSX in the same pile. Joe

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dos 1.0

by karlpaul36＠hotmail.com

Ok somone out there must still have a copy of DOS 1.0. If so could you tell us what the P/N of the set is? I could be wrong. I have been before. :) Thanks, Karl Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:49:29 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> Subject: Re: dos 1.0 Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Let me make this REAL clear. I've had both DOS 1.0 and 1.1 and they were identical except for different disks and a paper sticker on the package that said "DOS 1.1". I'm also fairly sure that there was no other mention of hte DOs version anywhere else in the package except of the disks themselves. I specificly checked the part number printed on the packages and they were exactly the same. I didn't go through EVERY page in the manual but the 20 or so pages that I checked, including the title page, indexs, introduction, copyright, etc, were all exactly the same. I'm not 100% sure but I don't think either of them mentioned MS. I did see a LATER DOs 1.1 package that had CHANGE pages added to it that was slightly different. I don't remember if it had the same part number and paper sticker or not. Joe At 02:09 PM 7/23/03 -0500, you wrote: >Joe, Not so. The DOS 1.0 manual has no reference to Microsoft. The first >page of the manual of DOS 1.1 states Disk Operation System, by Microsoft. >The DOS 1.0 just states Disk Operation System. The part number is not the >same either. > >Karl > > > >Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:00:22 >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> >Subject: Re: dos 1.0 >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > >If you have a DOS 1.1 manual then you have a DOS 1.0 manual. I've had and >seen several DOS 1.0 and 1.1 packages and the only difference between the >manuals was that the DOS 1.1 manuals had a paper sticker on them that said >"DOS 1.1". Even the part number on them was the same. > > Joe _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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dos 1.0

by jforbes2＠mindspring.com

> On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Joe wrote: >> Yes, they describe the \1 switch. It's also described in some "Read Me >> First" pages in the front of the manual. > > It might even be the ONLY change, but that is certainly different > from what is in the 1.0 manual. > > One would have to be very intent on having a COMPLETE collection > to feel a need to have both. There appears to be quite a bit of 1.10 specific info in the manual I have...stuff in the apendices about double sided disks, etc. This is the Second Edition, May 1982, for version 1.10. I have a Columbia MS-DOS 1.25 manual also, which is quite primitive looking compared to the IBM docs. The Columbia manual apparently was written and printed by Microsoft, with a Columbia cover added to make it look oem. This manual is also copyright 1982. I am not quite intent enough to pay $$$ for a PC-DOS 1.00 manual...but if one drops out of the sky, I'll put it on the shelf with the rest of my almost complete PC-DOS collection. -- Jim Visit the Selectric Typewriter Museum! http://www.mindspring.com/~jforbes2

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computer automation...

by LAAG＠PACBELL.NET

new to the dialog here but was just wondering if there were any interest in the computer automation stuff??? I have a couple of lsi-2 systems running and an alpha-16 stored...

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dos 1.0

by jforbes2＠mindspring.com

> At 10:22 PM 7/22/03 -0700, you wrote: > >>>The IBM PC DOS 1.00 manual seems to be quite rare indeed...the 1.10 >>>version is not hard to find. What's fun is getting either running on a >>>hard drive in a 5150 :) > > > That would be interesting especailly since neither version supported > sub-directories! > > Joe I have a 5150 with a Davong hard drive, with an external power supply (the 5150 63 watt ps was not quite up to the task), running PC DOS 1.10. There was software provided by Davong with the necessary modified DOS files to make it work. The drive is partitioned, with no directories, ie. all the files in each drive are in the root area. The computer boots from a special floppy disk, and goes to the a: prompt which is the first partition on the hard drive...and c: is the floppy drive...rather odd for a PC user, but not so odd for a Kaypro 10 user. <http://www.mindspring.com/~jforbes2/old5150/index.html> shows more. -- Jim Visit the Selectric Typewriter Museum! http://www.mindspring.com/~jforbes2

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Benchmark test software for the PC?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jul 23, 13:56, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > I need something for Pentium II and higher. Anything that was written > pre-Pentium, such as Landmark which I used quite extensively, would give > meaningless results on anything beyond a Pentium. Well, that depends on what you're measuring, really. But most of the benchmarks mentioned only measure processor speed (mostly, as modified by memory/cache speed) and if you want to know how something will perform as web server, that's not very useful. You want a benchmark that will take into account I/O bandwidth, or more specifically, disk access. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Token ring (UK)

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

>>Nosiree. Any PC, any RS/6000, really, any machine with PCI can do token >>ring. > >Token ring didn't require PCI bus, I have some ISA Token ring cards around >here somewhere Yep, Madge and IBM (obviously) made ISA boards. I believe they both made PCMCIA cards too (IBM certainly did, I still have one somewhere). My old company were exclusively 16Mbit token-ring up until about three years ago (and crying out for leads on spare parts back then). Support for anything other than a Windows/DOS PC was pretty much non-existant though and as we started using more and more Unix hardware (and the odd Mac, and Linux on x86) on projects I ended up throwing a bit of Ethernet into the pot, and things gradually started going that way by the time I left. cheers Jules ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/

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Dec RA60 Drives and HSC40 Controller... worth rescuing?

by CordaAJ＠NSWC.NAVY.MIL

Hey guys, I just ran across a couple of DEC RA60 (removable pack) drives and a HSC40 controller at a local dealer. They know _nothing_ about this stuff, save that it's _heavy_. I was able to find some docs on the controller, but nothing on the drives. As I recently acquired a VAX6630, I am considering latching onto the HSC40, but am vacillating on the drives... they _are_ heavy, and the dealer has no disk packs unless, god forbid, they are still in the drives 8-( ... I need to go back sometime this week and open 'em up for a look-see. Not being familiar with the RA60, and being unable to find any docs on-line, I have no idea how to open these up... does anyone have any experience with these critters? Can they be opened without power (i.e. is the top door locked with a solenoid?) I found a usenet post that indicated how to lock the heads, but I would be greatful for any info/insights on how to open the drives, things to watch out for when moving 'em, what to look for to indicate damage, etc... BTW how susceptable are they to damage if moved with the packs in them? (I _would not_ do this myself, but I know that they were not handled gently by the folks who sold them to the dealer... probably dropped off the back of a U-haul or something equally gentle. They apparently came from an unclamed storage lockup) Also, in the overall scheme of things, are these even worth saving? I have no idea where to get disk packs for them (I do have some 5-platter packs from CDC, model 9877, 877 and 877-51... would these possibly work? was there some sort of disk-pack standard?) Normally, I would not hesitate, but my collection is starting to get out of hand, and I have to start limiting myself...eventually ;-) -al- -acorda(a)1bigred.com

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Dec RA60 Drives and HSC40 Controller... worth rescuing?

by rogersda＠cox.net

> > The HSC would need its bootable media, probably CRONIC on 5.25" floppies. > > CRONIC for sure. On a HSC40 or 50 the boot media would be a DEC tape, TU58

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dos 1.0

by karlpaul36＠hotmail.com

Joe, Not so. The DOS 1.0 manual has no reference to Microsoft. The first page of the manual of DOS 1.1 states Disk Operation System, by Microsoft. The DOS 1.0 just states Disk Operation System. The part number is not the same either. Karl Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 17:00:22 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> Subject: Re: dos 1.0 Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org If you have a DOS 1.1 manual then you have a DOS 1.0 manual. I've had and seen several DOS 1.0 and 1.1 packages and the only difference between the manuals was that the DOS 1.1 manuals had a paper sticker on them that said "DOS 1.1". Even the part number on them was the same. Joe At 01:31 PM 7/22/03 -0500, you wrote: >I have DOS 1.1, in fact I have ALL of the IBM/PC DOS versions but for a >complete 1.0. > >Karl _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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computer automation...

by aek＠spies.com

> new to the dialog here but was just wondering if there were any interest in the computer automation stuff??? -- I'm interested in getting copies of any software and documentation that you might still have.

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help! shugart 801

by aek＠spies.com

> For other drive I have prints but not for the Siemens. www.spies.com/aek/pdf/siemens/

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Token ring (UK)

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

At 10:24 PM 7/22/03 -0400, you wrote: >Nosiree. Any PC, any RS/6000, really, any machine with PCI can do token >ring. Token ring didn't require PCI bus, I have some ISA Token ring cards around here somewhere

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IBM system 3 Re:PDP-12 on eBay (IBM 650) on ebay)

by roll＠stupi.se

"Mysterious PDP-10's in Stockholm". There is lot's of stuff in the wharehouse... KA10 2 (110V, complete, unknown condition gift from SC-group) BBN Pager 1 Sails's KA pager KI10 4 Three complete, Simon, UCI, Medecindata, Aarhus KL10A 1 "MIT-MC" complete with T300 disks on PDP11 KL10B (1090) 2 Oden (QZ Stockholm) (complete) KL10B (1091) 1 Tempest (Foa studielabb) (complete) KL10B (2065) 1 Vera (KTH) KS10 3 SC-group, TSL-data Clones; SC30 3 One in working condition (gift from SC-Group) TOAD-1 1 Working With the exception of A PDP-6 (have only one card Pulsed BUS Transceiver 1665D) the Foonley's and the Minnow and a SC40, I beleive there is a complete collection of PDP-10's. Lot's of stuff, like a SA-10 IBM chanel adapter, cards, manuals, spares, perpherials: TU77, TU78, TU45, RP07, RP20, RP06, TU70, TU71, DN87, DN200, TU55, TU56, RH10, DF10, DC10 DS10, RM05. And enough IO-bus, Memory-Bus, Massbus etyc cables to put it together. There is other related stuff like one of the original CADR's, PDP8/E, PDP9, PDP12/LINC12.. I don't remember what hapened to "Katia", when the Stacken management decided to destroy the PDP10's, some equipment and tools (like my 2020- extender-card, 7-trk ITS distribution, Rp06 aligment pack) was lost. Pices of Katia might be in the warehouse. Idea was to attach the BBN-pager to a working KA. As for proof, here are some pictures, as you can se it's packed, and unless someone provides a very compelling argument, it will stay packed. http://www.stupi.se/Bilder/pdp-10/index.html -Peter Ps: I'm not a member of the mailinglist, so please send me questions direct.

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Looking for an S-100 system

by mhstein＠canada.com

Well, I imagine you'll get quite a few offers, but FWIW I do happen to have a few S-100 systems, to wit, a number of Cromemcos and a couple of Vector MZs. I do also have all the documentation for them, system manuals and manuals for all the individual cards, as well as the system software (CDOS and CROMIX, CP/M and Unix wannabes) and some applications, also with manuals. Mind you, being multi-user systems, they're not quite as simple in design as most of the S-100/CP/M systems out there. I don't think I have the original cards for the Vectors, as I also populated them with Cromemco cards, but I could look; in any case no docs. The problem as always is the shipping; I'm located in Toronto, and S-100 systems tend to have rather heavy linear power supplies. A couple of other list members in my part of the world have expressed interest and of course they will have priority as soon as I find the time to sort it all out, and I'm assuming that shipping will probably make it impractical for you, but if not and you don't get any better offers, let me know and we'll see what we can work out. Good luck, mike -----------------------------Original message-------------------------- From: "Ernest" <ernestls(a)comcast.net> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Subject: Looking for an S-100 system Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 08:23:07 -0700 Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org I am interested in acquiring an S-100 CP/M system and I'm hoping that someone here might have one that they might sell or trade to me. I've never had an S100 type computer but I've always passively wanted one to tinker with. I don't have a particular make or model in mind but I have a general idea of what I'm looking for. Basically, I'm looking for one that I won't be afraid to work on, like an Altair or some other very rare or valuable old computer. An example that I was thinking of was a Northstar Horizon, since it's not rare, has floppy drives, and it follows the standard s100 bus architecture (I think.) The Vector Graphic Vector 1 is another system that seems to be fairly simple in design but I'm not sure how rare/expensive they are. I don't want to spend a fortune, and I'm not looking for anything highly collectable -just something simple and ordinary that I can work on and play with, and repair if something breaks. Thanks, E

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dos 1.0

by jforbes2＠mindspring.com

> From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > Subject: RE: dos 1.0 > > At 11:13 PM 7/21/03 -0500, you wrote: >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Karl Paul [mailto:karlpaul36@hotmail.com] >>> >>>I'm looking for the dos 1.0 manual and binder. I have the disk and nothing >>>else. Anyone out there have a manual and binder they would like to sell? >>> >>>This one shows up on e-Bay from time to time, but at outrageous prices... >>>-sigh- > I have one that I'll sell at an outragous price :-) Mine even has thet > "rare" sticker on it that says "Version 1.1" and comes equiped with the > "rare" DOS 1.1 disks. The IBM PC DOS 1.00 manual seems to be quite rare indeed...the 1.10 version is not hard to find. What's fun is getting either running on a hard drive in a 5150 :) -- Jim Visit the Selectric Typewriter Museum! http://www.mindspring.com/~jforbes2

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dos 1.0

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Fred Cisin <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> wrote: > 3.xx added support for path in executution (you could run a program that > was in a different directory than the one that you were in) Typo? I remember MS-DOS 2.11? on the HP150A in 1983 supporting a PATH environment variable which COMMAND.COM would use to search for executable programs. -Frank McConnell

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FREE for Pickup

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

Anyone in Central Florida want a 4 camera printed circuit board inspection machine missing it's cards? Was working before stored, but now not firing up. Free for pick up if this happens.

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help! shugart 801

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

Did you check the drives opto sensor's light path to make sure that no dust bunnies are blocking the path? i have an osi/macom that uses the same drives and after troubleshooting three good drives - i discovered that the drive interface card and 1 cpu had been pluged into the molex plug backplane backwords! one of these days i'll have to re chip and re cap both boards. anyhoo, you may want to check out your controller to insure that it is sending a head load signal. also on those drives,there are some wire jumpers that may need to be set and soldered. if i remember correctly - there is two different boards used on those drives too - one is for hard sectored and one is for soft sectored thier may be another for mfm vs another standard too - double check the boards on the drive's with your orignal - your looking for the missing or complete parts on the fm data sep and other silk screened areas and the wire jumper location's at the back of the card edge connector. just rememebered my drives were siemens fdd 100-8 e hope this helps anyway. Bill Message: 31 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 21:40:07 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> Subject: help! shugart 801 Cc: Dave Mabry <dmabry(a)mich.com> Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org I have several systems that use Shugart 800-1 SS 8" disk drives. I've got several defective drives plus I've been wanting some spares. Last week I picked up 10 Shugart model 801 SS drives. Today I tried to use them on the same systems but I can't make them work. I've set all the jumpers and straps exactly the same as in the 800-1 drives but the 801s aren't working. The system knows the drive is there and detects the disk being in place and rotating and that the drive door closed but the drive never gets the head load signal. I'm using the same system, cables, power supply, etc with both drives so the only difference is the drives themselves. I've tried a couple of 801s and gotten exactly the same results with all of them so I don't think that it due to a drive failure. Anybody have any experience with these or have a good idea of what's wrong? Joe --__--__--

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Panasonic KXP4400 Laser Printer

by mec＠012.net.il

Hello Hello Phil, I have the same drum problem. I appreciate very much if you could help me on advise of how to put the printer into Service Mode and reset the page counter to 00000 Thanks, Hanan Friedman

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Using a Mac mono monitor with PC VGA

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

It's an MO400, Apple High-Res Mono, 35 kHz Horizontal scan, 66.7 Hz vertical scan. Looks like it won't work :(. -----Original Message----- From: Ian Primus [mailto:ian_primus@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 3:26 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Using a Mac mono monitor with PC VGA If it's a monochrome monitor, chances are that it won't work. A lot of those old monitors were fixed frequency, and can't be driven by a PC VGA card. <snip>

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WTD: 2114 RAMs

by philpem＠dsl.pipex.com

Hi all, Has anyone got six (or more) 2114 RAMs they feel like parting with? John Honniball (coredump at gifford dot co dot uk) was supposed to be sending me some, but for some reason he's stopped answering my emails. At this moment in time, the only thing I want to do is see my Jupiter Ace running. Unfortunately the RAMs are totally stuffed (Tony Duell was right about them dying if you look at them wrong!)... I know BGMicro still sell them - is anyone placing an order with them in the near future? Thanks. -- Phil. | Acorn Risc PC600 Mk3, SA202, 64MB, 6GB, philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com | video mods, 10BaseT (i3 EtherLAN600), http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/ | 8xCD, framegrabber, teletext REALITY.SYS corrupted: reboot universe?

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scanning booklets for archive

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Why cut them in half? When I needed to copy some booklets like this, I >pulled out the staples, then took each sheet and folded it back in half. >I then scanned/copied each side of that, folded it back the other way and >scanned/copied the 2 sides of it in that configuration (this got copies >of all 4 booklet-pages that made up a single sheet). After I'd done all >the pages, I put them back in the right order and put the (original) >staples back in. This is a valid approach for things that are important... but it is FAR more time consuming then my current method. By cutting them in half I can load them into the sheet feeder and do the entire first half of the book (I tell Acrobat I'm scanning dual sided pages, it scans all the first sides, then prompts me to put them back in and scan the back sides, then it puts them all in order for me... I repeat the process with the back half of the book, and when I am done, everything is in order and I've had very little user interaction with it). So really, cutting them in half is just a huge time saver. If I do the folding method, I have to scan them all way out of order and worry about putting them all back into order. Certainly valid and worth the time for things I want to not destroy. But not worth it for things that are being thrown out right after scanning. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Getting Mac OS X to play nice with DEC OS's

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Since there seem to be a few people on CLASSICCMP besides me running Mac OS X, I figure the following might be of interest. One of my chief remaining complaints with Mac OS X has been getting X-Windows to play nicely with OpenVMS and other DEC OS's. Normally I use a shell script to start up a xterm with the properly configured keyboard mappings, but that doesn't work under Mac OS X. I'm used to having a fully functional keypad for editing files, and I can't live without it. Well, I think I've finally got it about solved. Simply do the following. Dump your existing keyboard layout (twice): xmodmap -pke > ~/.Xmodmap xmodmap -pke > ~/.Xmodmap.orig Change to the following keycodes in the ~/.Xmodmap keycode 79 = KP_F1 keycode 89 = KP_F2 keycode 83 = KP_F3 keycode 75 = KP_F4 keycode 127 = Select Load your new .Xmodmap: xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap Add the following to ~/.Xdefaults xterm*VT100.Translations: #override \ <Key>BackSpace: string(0x7f) If you actually need the normal X-Windows keyboard layout for some reason you can get it back by doing: xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap.orig So far I've tested this with TOPS-20, OpenVMS, and RT-11 and it seems to be working great. I'm not sure if the function keys work right, as I don't really use them, but all the keys I use for editing do work. My only complaint is that it doesn't support double-height text, but it's a lot cheaper solution than going out and buying a commercial terminal emulator that offers full support. Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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Token ring (UK)

by nedry＠mail.bedlambells.com

My company is still all 16 meg token ring. The cards (both PCMCIA and PCI) are still available from Madge (we just bought five PCI Cards) and cost over ?100 each. Ouch. I've got my laptop set up with both e-net and token ring PCMCIA cards, and it works great, with both Slackware and Windows 2000... although making Slackware work ment some manual editing of config files... Take Care, Mark ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Jules Richardson<julesrichardsonuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 18:10:34 +0100 (BST) >Yep, Madge and IBM (obviously) made ISA boards. I believe they both >made PCMCIA cards too (IBM certainly did, I still have one >somewhere). My old company were exclusively 16Mbit token-ring up >until about three years ago (and crying out for leads on spare parts >back then). > >Support for anything other than a Windows/DOS PC was pretty much non- >existant though and as we started using more and more Unix hardware >(and the odd Mac, and Linux on x86) on projects I ended up throwing a >bit of Ethernet into the pot, and things gradually started going that >way by the time I left.

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Commodore CBM/PET in Terminator 3

by palazzol＠comcast.net

Anyone else spot that one near the end of the movie? It was one of the 80-column models. Not sure what any of the other "30-year old" computers were. -Frank

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scanning booklets for archive

by classiccmp＠vintage-computer.com

> I finally have a scanning system setup here for archiving documents. On a tangentially related note, we've just started an effort at the VC Forum to track scanned documents. Think of it as an index to available online documents of interest to vintage computer collectors. It's just in its infancy, but I think it's a great idea and I hope we have success with it. The thread at http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/viewtopic.php? t=241 covers my interpretation of the effort. I'm sure it will evolve somewhat over time. Please feel free to drop by and comment or help out! Thanks, Erik Klein www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum The Vintage Computer Forum

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Vairan Data Machines

by aek＠spies.com

I got a lot of manuals and schematics - I'll prepare a list. Since my brother got a powerful scanner at work, he might be able to scan the documents, which are not at your site already. -- I have quite a bit of material also which I will put up now that there is someone who needs it. What I don't have that would be very handy would be documentation on the fixed head disc, and disc interface.

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Varian Data Machines

by aek＠spies.com

I got a Varian(Univac) Data Machines 620L100 in very good conditions including a fixed-head disk, a teletype and a Tektronix storage display. This machines is dated to 1974. -- Is it an ADAPTS system (is there an A/D panel just below the CPU) ? I have one. It is very likely that there is a lab oriented BASIC (possibly still in core!) If there is any way to save the contents of memory before you fiddle with trying programs, it would be a GOOD THING. I haven't touched my machine because I don't want to destroy what may be the only copy of that program. I would also suggest not spinning up the disc right away. I assume you aren't getting any documentation or external software with it?

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Data Systems Design DSD-880 8" floppy and hard drive?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jul 23, 1:34, <rogersda(a)cox.net> wrote: > Jerome Fine <jhfinexgs2(a)compsys.to> wrote: > > > [...] In addition, > > I also added a bounce buffer in DYX.SYS so that > > a user buffer above 256 KBytes could be used > > with the 18-bit hardware addresses in the floppy. > > Actually, for device I/O, it doesn't matter whether > one is using 16, 18, or 22 bit addressing. The PDP-11 > I/O page is defined as from 28KW-32KW, which is entirely > within the range of 16bit addressing. It's true that the I/O page always appears *to software* at *logical* addresses 160000-177777. This is fine for the processor, which has logic to deal with it. Nevertheless, the *hardware* addresses which appear on the bus need to be 160000-177777, 760000-777777, or 17760000-17777777 depending on whether the system uses 16, 18, or 22-bit addressing. To make life easier, DEC provide a "Bus Bank Select 7" signal, which most I/O devices use to detect access to the I/O page. What Jerome is referring to, however, is the DMA operation. An RXV21 or RLV11 (and some other devices) can only perform data transfers to 18-bit addresses. Data is transferred only by DMA; you can't transfer data from the device controller, only commands and status. Most DEC operating systems expect data transfers to be able to load/save from data buffers at arbitrary (physical) addresses; therefore drivers in some operating systems have the option to use a bounce buffer mapped to low memory, for 18-bit devices. They therefore transfer the data in two stages: under program control between the bounce buffer and the required address, and letting the DMA transfer between bounce buffer and actual device. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Data Systems Design DSD-880 8" floppy and hard drive?

by rogersda＠cox.net

Jerome Fine <jhfinexgs2(a)compsys.to> wrote: > I agree there needs to be a SYSGEN to be able to use > all 3 * RL02 drives with the DL(X).SYS device drivers > and the hardware handles ONLY 18 bit addresses for > both the DYX.SYS and DLX.SYS device drivers. > > BUT the RLV11 and the RXV12 from DEC also > managed to handle only 18-bit addresses. So the > DSD box was completely compatible with the stock > (distributed) V4.00 of RT-11. > > However, V4.00 code in DY.MAC contained the > extra instructions to use a double-sided media which > would probably have been called an RX03. And > although those extra instructions had bugs (after all > they had never been tested) and were removed by > V5.00 of RT-11, I did fix the bugs and ran a DYX.SYS > device driver under V5.03 of RT-11 using the DSD > 8" floppy as a double-sided drive. In addition, > I also added a bounce buffer in DYX.SYS so that > a user buffer above 256 KBytes could be used > with the 18-bit hardware addresses in the floppy. Actually, for device I/O, it doesn't matter whether one is using 16, 18, or 22 bit addressing. The PDP-11 I/O page is defined as from 28KW-32KW, which is entirely within the range of 16bit addressing. Dale Rogers DEC/Compaq/HP

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Website down?

by kurtk7＠visi.com

Just a quick question for the group, Anyone heard of a website called olddos.org? Thanks Kurt

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DEC AD0L-A

by wrljet＠yahoo.com

Does anyone know what a DEC AD0L-A is? Looks like some sort of A/D equipment. Mounting panel holds a number cards and has a small power supply near one end. Cards present (looks like a bunch are missing, from the amount of wiring on the backplane) are: A220 A708 A862 bipolar high speed A/C convertor G701 M100 M111 invertors M161 binary to octal convertor M216 flip-flops M602 pulse generator M636 Anybody know what the mystery cards are? Thanks, Bill

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apology for the delay

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Sorry all the email got backed up on cctech for a few days. I just got back >from the Great Oklahoma Excersion(tm) with Guy to pick up Jeff Sharp's collection - hence I was away from the list for a few days. God was Oklahoma HOT!!! Lots of pictures of the move were taken. I'm shipping my pictures off to Guy and he'll put them up on his website sometime I'm sure. Regards, Jay West

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Dec RA60 Drives and HSC40 Controller... worth rescuing?

by rogersda＠cox.net

The RA60's should be opened with power on. However, unlike RL02's, the solenoid can be overridden with a thin blade. > From: Corda Albert J DLVA <CordaAJ(a)NSWC.NAVY.MIL> > ... As I recently acquired a VAX6630, I am considering > latching onto the HSC40, but am vacillating on the drives... You have to really *want* one of these. They are power hungry little beasties. > they _are_ heavy, and the dealer has no disk packs unless, > god forbid, they are still in the drives 8-( ... I need to go > back sometime this week and open 'em up for a look-see. > > Not being familiar with the RA60, and being unable to find any > docs on-line, I have no idea how to open these up... does anyone > have any experience with these critters? Can they > be opened without power (i.e. is the top door locked with a > solenoid?) As far as what to look for, hold the pack so that light is passing through the side of it. Every surface should be completely smooth. If you see any rings, it's had the head touch it. The heads should be white to yellowish white with a dark bar in the middle. If there are black or brown smudges on the head, they've been crashed. If they clean up smooth with 95% alcohol, they ~may~ be okay. I'd have to look, but I think good heads ohmed out at 4-6 ohms. (It's been a while since I last worked on one.) Dale the DECdude

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Microchannel Ethernet

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 7/22/2003 10:26:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com writes: > Don't need that... but, anyone got any microchannel ethernet cards? I have > an IBM PS2/95 server, with only token ring. It's that or I have to build my > own token ring segment. Kind of a drag... > They can still be found fairly easily. Check ebay as they are for sale all the time. If nothing else works out, I might be able to help. -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

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dos 1.0

by karlpaul36＠hotmail.com

I have DOS 1.1, in fact I have ALL of the IBM/PC DOS versions but for a complete 1.0. Karl Message: 35 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 06:43:16 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> Subject: RE: dos 1.0 Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org I have one that I'll sell at an outragous price :-) Mine even has thet "rare" sticker on it that says "Version 1.1" and comes equiped with the "rare" DOS 1.1 disks. Joe At 11:13 PM 7/21/03 -0500, you wrote: >This one shows up on e-Bay from time to time, but at outrageous prices... >-sigh- > >Cheers... > >Ed Tillman >Store Automation Tech Support Specialist > Valero Energy Corporation >San Antonio, Texas, USA >Office: (210)592-3110, Fax (210)592-2048 >Email: edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Karl Paul [mailto:karlpaul36@hotmail.com] > >I'm looking for the dos 1.0 manual and binder. I have the disk and nothing >else. Anyone out there have a manual and binder they would like to sell? > >Karl _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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looking for......

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> HP 9122D floppy drive unit > > Anyone have one they're willing to trade? > > Jay West > Maybe, what exactly is it? Is it by chance an 8" drive with an HPIB Interface? Zane

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looking for......

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Zane H. Healy wrote (after Jay West): > > HP 9122D floppy drive unit > > Maybe, what exactly is it? Is it by chance an 8" drive with an HPIB Dual 3.5" double-sided drive with HP-IB interface. -Frank McConnell

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8-inch disk drives

by luv2craftca＠jaydemail.com

Thanks everyone for your very helpful suggestions. We had originally planned to do the transfer via serial cable but someone suggested the hardware solution, which sounded interesting, but obviously would require more work. We are looking into the kermit solution. If that fails then we will be looking at logging data displayed on the monitor. Jo -- _______________________________________________ Another FREE service from Jayde Online http://www.jayde.com Private, Web-based email accounts at http://www.jaydemail.com Powered by Outblaze

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IBM Displaywriter

by art＠gardnerbusiness.com

Lawrence Walker, I would like to purchase an IBM Displaywriter. Can you help? Thanks Arthur S. Gardner Gardner Business Services 866-321-6611

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Looking for an S-100 system

by ernestls＠comcast.net

I am interested in acquiring an S-100 CP/M system and I'm hoping that someone here might have one that they might sell or trade to me. I've never had an S100 type computer but I've always passively wanted one to tinker with. I don't have a particular make or model in mind but I have a general idea of what I'm looking for. Basically, I'm looking for one that I won't be afraid to work on, like an Altair or some other very rare or valuable old computer. An example that I was thinking of was a Northstar Horizon, since it's not rare, has floppy drives, and it follows the standard s100 bus architecture (I think.) The Vector Graphic Vector 1 is another system that seems to be fairly simple in design but I'm not sure how rare/expensive they are. I don't want to spend a fortune, and I'm not looking for anything highly collectable -just something simple and ordinary that I can work on and play with, and repair if something breaks. Thanks, E

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