- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

For long-term storage, I would worry that the coating on the cardboard might stick to the drive's head, especially if it was humid when the drive is bagged. (I know a number of museum conservators who do not use plastic bags for protecting artifacts because of problems with static and humidity. They only use closed plastic bags when there is a question of insect infestation.) It would probably be a good idea to put a _fresh_ packet of silica gel desicant in the plastic bag with the drive. And, yes, I still have some of the shipping cardboards for my old drives :) . -----Original Message----- From: Fred Cisin [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:01 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Storing floppy dirves <snip> Does EVERYBODY discard the shipping cardboard that 5.25" drives came with? NOBODY ever expects to have to ship or store a drive ever again? Your choice is NOT between a open (heads unloaded) v a disk loaded. Your choice is between a open (heads unloaded) v a proper shipping cardboard (or disk rotated 90 degrees to use the JACKET of the disk as padding).

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Simplest (practical) file system?

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>It's a LOT easier (and much more efficient) to just implement an >allocation map. But not at all needed if you use a flat, contiguous file system. And remember, the question was asking for the simplest file system... and a block/sector/whatever allocation map and the associated code to handle it is not as simple as one can get. Not to mention the fact that you need tables of pointers to the blocks so that a file can be reassembled, or read in order... and the risks to the whole file if the pointers are lost... I can't tell you how many RT disks I've been able to recover >from truly bad blocks in the directory by virtue of the fact that the RT directory structure is so simple... Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: mbg at world.std.com | | Member of Technical Staff | megan at savaje.com | | SavaJe Technologies, Inc. | (s/ at /@/) | | 100 Apollo Drive | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Chelmsford, MA 01824 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (978) 256 6521 (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

22 years, 8 months

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More Acorn finds + Numonics graphics tablet

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

My AutoCAD 2.18 Installation manual (March 1986) gives serial cabling for Numonics 2200 Series plotters to PC as: Tablet End Computer End 3 -------------------- 3 4 --| 5 --| 7 -------------------- 7 6 --| 20 --| To use with AutoCAD, set the tablet for binary data transmition at 9600 baud, 8 bits, one stop bit. Switch settings are: Switch Open(Down) Closed(Up) Doesn't matter A 2,5,7 1 3,4,6,8 B 5 3 1,2,4,6,7,8 C 1 2,3,4 Lastly, the AutoCAD notes say that the tablet can be configured to emulate other brands by changing the PROM chips. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Jules Richardson [mailto:julesrichardsonuk@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 5:04 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: More Acorn finds + Numonics graphics tablet <snip> Numonics 2206 graphics tablet still in its box <snip> *Any* info on the Numonics tablet would be great. It appears to be complete (minus manuals - grr!) and supposedly works, but I don't even know what it plugs into and I don't have any driver software for it. (I'm not even sure how old it is :) <snip>

22 years, 8 months

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Storing floppy dirves

by ernestls＠comcast.net

For long term storage, is it better to store a 5.25 inch floppy drive with a disk in the drive and the lever closed, or is it better to leave the door open and no disk in the drive? Either way, the drive will be in a sealed plastic bag to keep the dust out but I was just curious about whether or not to keep a diskette locked in the drive during storage. I've heard arguments for both. Thanks!

22 years, 8 months

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Texas Insturments 1975-1979 computer research help needed please.

by nsa＠ureach.com

Hi Folks, I'm new to this group and didn't know I wasn't allow to post jpeg pictures. But anyway I have some new questions on TI computers. One what TI computer came out about 1975-1979 That had a large removable hard drive and was better than the DEC PDP's ? Which had very limted RAM and used slow magnetic tapes for programs and data storage ? Second what would be in this binder as the outside reads: TI-MIX Microcomputer Information Exchange ? The computer came out before 1979. My father wrote an OS for it. The last time he used it was 1979. Any help would be great. Thanks ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag

22 years, 8 months

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FWD: FS: RARE black Bell & Howell Apple ][ Plus with drives

by ba600＠freenet.carleton.ca

> FS: RARE black Bell & Howell Apple ][ Plus with drives > > Selling an excellent condition black Bell & Howell Apple ][ Plus with > matching black drives. This is a genuine Apple computer, distributed > through Bell & Howell (has both companies logos on the nameplates of the > computer and disk drives). > > Asking $499.00 US or best offer. > > Please email me for more details at: > pmode4(a)mts.net -- Collector of Vintage Computers http://www.ncf.ca/~ba600/

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List shenanigans?

by vcf＠siconic.com

Is it just me or is the list dumping the same messages over and over again? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

22 years, 8 months

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Simplest (practical) file system?

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>When a file is deleted, its directory entry is changed to indicate that >the file no longer exists, If a shorter file is then stored on the disk, >then the directory entry is changed again for the new file. THis then >leaves some unused blocks on the disk which can't be used becuase there's >no way to create a directory entry in the right place in the directory. RT handles this by adding a directory entry to describe the unallocated portion of the previous free space. This might mean having to move directory entries in a segment, and may require a segment split. Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: mbg at world.std.com | | Member of Technical Staff | megan at savaje.com | | SavaJe Technologies, Inc. | (s/ at /@/) | | 100 Apollo Drive | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Chelmsford, MA 01460 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (978) 256 6521 (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

22 years, 8 months

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Differences in the Z80 processors?

by ernestls＠comcast.net

I have seen z80, z80a, and z80b processors, and I'm curious about what the differences are between the different versions of the processor? Is each newer version faster than the earlier model, like a 486-33/66/100 or are the differences more along the lines of additional commands (or something like that?) Or a combination of both? Also, can I use a Z80a or Z80b in place of the original Z80 if I want to replace a bad CPU? Thanks. E.

22 years, 8 months

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Manx [was: Re: scanning booklets for archive]

by aek＠spies.com

Thanks for indexing all of this. A flat text file of all of the entries would be of use also. Do you know if this can be put on line? Someone was asking about it on alt.sys.pdp8 recently DEC-8I-H2CA-D PP8/I High-Speed Paper-Tape Punch Option Functional Description DEC-8I-H2DA-D PR8/I High-Speed Perforated Tape Reader and Control Option Functional Description DEC-8I-H8NA-D KT8/I Time-Sharing Option Functional Description DEC-8I-HOCA-D KE8/I Extended Arithmetic Element DEC-8I-HODA-D KB8/I General Input/Output Interface Option Description

22 years, 8 months

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Pet 2001, (6550 unobtainium!) ??

by bdegnan＠degnanco.net

Hello - I read your text from... http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2003-January/014761.html I have a similar problem, the screen is full of characters, and I am trying to figure out what is the cause so that I can attempt to fix. I am going to try the 2114s from bgmicro.com as you mentioned. Any advice? It's a shame if I can't fix this thing, it's in nice cosmetic shape. Thanks in advance Bill Degnan Wilmington, DE

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Need Computer History Info Research Help 1965-1979 DEC pdp 8E

by nsa＠ureach.com

Hello folks, I have been trying to research and find out what certain computers and accessorys.I have wriiten below questions I have to the veries parts in the pictures in which I tring to figure out. I will be only sending out two of the pictures of these computers to start with. These computers where used in submarine dectection ASW. I'm trying to help the US Navy Historical Center out with info on the breakdown of the hardware. Any information would be of great help. Thanks ---------------------------------- Above where it reads FIELD-8E SYSTEMS 1 looks like some type of signal generator ? an analog output ring ? Are Some type of Data Transmitter that can send test signals for either teletypewriter or data communications. In the middle I would guess is a computer battery maybe ? And at the bottom you have a bunch of LCD lights there in the center above and also a lot of headphone jacks and looks like for each set of headphone jacks equals the amount of knobs to turn same in the center right headphone jacks to and up or down switch. Above MARKSMAN plotter-printer notice the numbers above Array recorder ? Center Above is duel Tape recorders Center Bottom is some type of Oscillator possible used as a computer monitor as then I guess that is what was used as computer monitor as today’s also use frequencies. The knobs on the oscillator would be used to see the frequency that the tape is recording from picking up the sound from the signal generator ? And at the bottom is the DEC PDP-8E Computer PDP-8E CPU with extended arithmetic element. KL8E 2400 baud communications port ________________________________________________ Get your own "800" number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/jpeg]

22 years, 8 months

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RL02 Assistance...

by cvendel＠att.net

Hi, I've got an RL02 connected to my Vax 4000-200 through an RLV12 QBus controller. The Drive is spinning up fine and the Ready light is Lit, the Fault light goes off once power to the Vax is started and doing a SHO DEV at the Chevron prompt and within OpenVMS both show: RLV12 Controller 0 (774400) -DLA3 (RL02) Which looks great from my perspective, the drive ID plug is a 3, so DLA3 makes total sense. In the SHO DEV within OpenVMS does display the drive as being online. So my problem is with MOUNT, everytime I go to mount the drive the system simply hangs and never seems to complete the mount, I end up having to CTRL- BREAK to Halt the system back to Chevron and b up again from my DSSI DIA0: Anyone have any idea's what I'm doing wrong or what may be wrong??? I've tried with a /FOREIGN too since this platters are from an 11/730 and many of the handwritten labels on the disk paks say RSTS on them, so I wasn't sure if it was a format issue or something, I could really use some help/advice from anyone with a lot of experience with the quirks of the RL's. Thanks much, PS: If anyone has an RK05 or RK07 DECPack for sale and possibly an RKV11D Qbus controller I am in the market for one. Curt

22 years, 8 months

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Soldering Iron

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

I need a precision soldering iron (long needle like tip) for electronics use, any suggestions? I found one made by GOOT a CS-30 in an old radio shack catalog but they no longer have them and I cant find a website in the US that still sells them. I have an scsi chip on an amiga addon board that got wacked in shipping and a few of the pins have broken off from their solder pads (its a surface mount chip and none of the pins are broke just desoldered). My current 23 watt soldering iron has a tip thats just too big for this kind of work. Thanks for any help (I assume one can be found for around $20)

22 years, 8 months

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Delayed messages to this group

by ernestls＠comcast.net

Has anyone else been experiencing posting delays for the cctalk list. I'm seeing delays of from 2 to 4 days, and I'm not sure why. I am posting this message at 10:30am on 7/24. It'll probably show up on the list right away because I made a point of asking. LOL. E.

22 years, 8 months

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KC Computer Swap Shop?

by bill＠timeguy.com

Can someone supply an address and/or phone number for the Computer Swap Shop in Kansas City? Thanks!

22 years, 8 months

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Data conversion (Commodore, 8250 disk drive, superbase)

by semlj001＠hotmail.com

I have 4 disks worth of data saved using a commodore 64 and an 8250 double disk drive. The program that they were saved in used SuperBase as it's database. I'm looking to somehow import this data into a microsoft access database. Converting it into plain text would be great. If anyone has the means to do this or has some pointers as to how I could accomplish this it would be great. Lance. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is now available on Australian mobile phones. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilecentral/signup.asp

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Differences in the Z80 processors?

by melamy＠earthlink.net

there is also the Z80H... 2.5 mhz, 4mhz, 6mhz, and finally 8 mhz replacing with a faster z80 should not pose a problem. It should actually relax the timing a bit and work more reliably depending on the original design. best regards, Steve Thatcher >--- Original Message --- >From: "Ernest" <ernestls(a)comcast.net> >To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Date: 7/24/03 10:20:49 PM > I have seen z80, z80a, and z80b processors, and I'm curious about what the >differences are between the different versions of the processor? Is each >newer version faster than the earlier model, like a 486-33/66/100 or are the >differences more along the lines of additional commands (or something like >that?) Or a combination of both? > >Also, can I use a Z80a or Z80b in place of the original Z80 if I want to >replace a bad CPU? > >Thanks. > >E

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at&t 458

by we3＠sprynet.com

Does anyone know anything about the at&t 458? I believe it's a serial daisy wheel printer. What I'm interested in is what the dip switch settings in back of the printer are supposed to be set to. If you have an at&t 458, when looking at it from the back, the dip switches are on lower left corner behind a little door which needs a screwdriver to pry open. Any help would be appreciated thanks.

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Backup Tapes

by romboc＠shaw.ca

Hello, If you are still interested, I have a total of 11 compatible tapes (8 Teac CT-600N and 3 Maxell CS-600XD). All are used and have used labels. As far as I know, they all still work. (I still have the tape drive as well, but have no longer an operating Apple system, so I cannot check these). If you are interested, please let me know. romboc

22 years, 8 months

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1981 Ohio Scientific C3-B computer-Looking for a good home

by palamara＠comcast.net

I have a 1981 Ohio Scientific C3-B computer looking for a good home. This CP/M based computer has three processors (6502, 6800 and Z80), a Winchester 36 mb hard drive and two 8" floppy drives in a case a bit smaller than a four drawer file cabinet. It also has a keyboard equipped monitor, a Texas Instruments printer and associated software and manuals. It was running fine when it was last used about five years ago. Dave Palamara Atlantic Highlands, NJ 732-291-1444 (day) 732-872-0870 (home)

22 years, 8 months

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FW: Exidy software

by bips＠newmex.com

-----Original Message----- From: john [mailto:john@bipsnm.com] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 7:41 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Exidy software I have an Exidy with S-100 and floppy drives. I have missed placed my floppy disks. They had CP/M, an editor, assembler compiler, and utilities. I would be very interested in obtaining a copy of same. My floppies were 5.25, single sided, 97K. John

22 years, 8 months

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Exidy software

by john＠bipsnm.com

I have an Exidy with S-100 and floppy drives. I have missed placed my floppy disks. They had CP/M, an editor, assembler compiler, and utilities. I would be very interested in obtaining a copy of same. My floppies were 5.25, single sided, 97K. John

22 years, 8 months

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Technical Magic 8S ?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Anybody familar with a "Technical magic 8S" card? I found several of them in a DEC system. They're double width cards and have eight AMI S1602P LSI ICs on them. Chip Directory says that the 1602s are UARTs. Joe

22 years, 8 months

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Benchmark test software for the PC?

by vcf＠siconic.com

Does anyone know of any free benchmark test software for the PC? Preferably something that runs in DOS mode that I can boot off a floppy (to avoid having to boot into Windows). I have two PCs that I want to benchmark to determine which one has the better performance for my new web server. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

22 years, 8 months

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Osborne Executive disks

by robin.england＠dial.pipex.com

Hello Wayne Excuse the email out of the blue! I have just seen your reply to a post asking about disks for the Osborne Executive. For reference, the URL is :- http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2002-August/004906.html I am also in need of these images, I have one of these computers but no disks at all. Can you help me please? Thanks Robin England

22 years, 8 months

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Kaypro PC ?

by ernestls＠comcast.net

Kaypro made a computer that they released after their portables but before their IBM clone. It was in a flat metal case that was shorter and smaller than their AT case. I can't remember what it was called. I've only seen one reference to it but the website is gone. Does anyone remember the system that I'm thinking of? I think (?) that it was an 8086 system but it might have been a single board Z80.

22 years, 8 months

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Decwriter II has been taken

by holmberg＠tiac.net

The Decwriter II I offered for taking has been taken. I'm glad I was able to find a home for it. Thanks, Carl

22 years, 8 months

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Have any 387Sx-16's left?

by rsteger＠uclink.berkeley.edu

Hi Chris, I am a grad student at UC Berkeley and I could use one of your 387sx-16's on a project I am working on. If you still have some and can spare one, I am in the mechanical engineering department at: Attn: R. Steger 2168 Etcheverry Hall Berkeley, CA 94720 Thanks, Ryan

22 years, 8 months

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DEC AD01-A (was: DEC AD0L-A)

by wrljet＠yahoo.com

> Rick Murphy wrote: > > > > I think you've got an AD01-A (the fourth character is a "1", not the > > letter "L".) > > Google searching for AD01-A yields a lot of good info. For example, > > <http://www.psych.usyd.edu.au/pdp-11/ad01.html> You're right. The hyphen between the '1' and the 'A' was shift down to the bottom of the line, making the '1' look like an 'L'. I thought I saw AD0LA rather than AD01-A. Mine appears to be different from the one pictured on that webpage. > In that case, this manual may be some use, though it appears to be > describing a different (later?) model: > > "AD01-D Analog-to-Digital Conversion Subsystem Manual" > > http://208.190.133.201/decimages/AD01_manual.pdf (9.3 MiB) In any case my AD01-A has quite a different card layout than the AD01-D in that manual. Bill

22 years, 8 months

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Need Synapse N+1 manuals ($$$)

by vcf＠siconic.com

I'm seeking any manuals for the Synapse Computer Corporation N+1 computer circa 1985. If you've got any please do contact me directly. I've got a bounty out for these! -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

22 years, 8 months

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Soldering Iron

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Use the bigger iron you have with excess flux. If there is too much solder, use wick or sucker to remove excess. With the flux, the solder will not tend to bridge. Dwight >From: TeoZ <teoz(a)neo.rr.com> > >I need a precision soldering iron (long needle like tip) for electronics use, >any suggestions? > >I found one made by GOOT a CS-30 in an old radio shack catalog but they no >longer have them and I cant find a website in the US that still sells them. > >I have an scsi chip on an amiga addon board that got wacked in shipping and a >few of the pins have broken off from their solder pads (its a surface mount >chip and none of the pins are broke just desoldered). My current 23 watt >soldering iron has a tip thats just too big for this kind of work. > >Thanks for any help (I assume one can be found for around $20)

22 years, 8 months

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List shenanigans?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Not I. I get single messages only. Paxton Astoria, OR

22 years, 8 months

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Need to read 8-inch CP/M disks

by grobinson＠transpose.com

I have a need to read some 8-inch CP/M disks. They're pretty old and I'm nervous about sending them anywhere because I'm afraid that post-9/11 package scanning could ruin them. If anybody has any hardware they'd be interested in loaning to me (or selling) for this purpose that would be great. Or if anyone has a machine and lives in the U.S. Northeast, I wonder if I could pay for some of your time to help me get this done. Many thanks in advance for any help! --Gary -- Putting http://wecanstopspam.org in your email helps it pass through overzealous spam filters. Gary Robinson CEO Transpose, LLC grobinson(a)transpose.com 207-942-3463 http://www.transpose.com http://radio.weblogs.com/0101454

22 years, 8 months

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List shenanigans?

by cpg＠aladdin.de

On 07/25/2003 11:09:10 AM AST chris wrote: > >>Is it just me or is the list dumping the same messages over and over >>again? > >Just you. At least I'm not getting duplicates I do. I thought that due to some local mail system hiccup somehow I was subscribed twice (I probably have sent multiple subscribe mails...). But if someone else gets them too.... ? regards, chris

22 years, 8 months

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List shenanigans?

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Is it just me or is the list dumping the same messages over and over >again? Just you. At least I'm not getting duplicates -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 8 months

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Need to read 8-inch CP/M disks

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

I remember a cartoon in a photo magazine showing a mangled envelope labeled "Photos Do Not Bend" with "Yes they do!" scribbled below that. ;) Bob -----Original Message----- From: Vintage Computer Festival [mailto:vcf@siconic.com] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 4:27 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Need to read 8-inch CP/M disks <snip> I also make sure anyone sending me magentic media writes in big, bold, red lettres on the packaging "MAGNETIC MEDIA INSIDE".

22 years, 8 months

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Obscure Fuji Unix Computer

by d_l_mcd＠hotmail.com

Hi Everybody, If you come across the following computer, or know where to find one, or know anything interesting about it, please let me know! Labelled as: Fuji MCS-16F Alleged OS: Unix OS9 Custom User Interface Software: Fuji MCS/2E V3.33 Installed Custom I/O Cards visible on back: 1. VM1161 2. VM1410 3. VM1310 There is one 5-1/4" floppy drive installed. This appears to be a mid-1980's era customized controller, and is being used to control a mid-1980's era Fuji SMT system. The problem is that the system owners are beginning to be very nervous about the long-term feasibility of the computer/controller and are searching for a backup while preparing for a surprisingly expensive software upgrade sometime in the future. Fuji no longer supports the installed software. This is also the type of thing that one may encounter in the usual places... in a dumpster, or in a pile at an auction or, well, you know, where ever. Rest assured that this particular model of obscure computer has some worth left in it, so please let me know if you encounter one! Thanks, Dan M Bellows Falls, Vermont USA

22 years, 8 months

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Panasonic KXP4400 Laser Printer

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Sellam A while back there was one of these that Patrick Rigney responded to. He got no reply from that person. I have also replied to one such mail without a response. It seems to be a real slow way of fishing for email addresses but maybe that is what it is. It surely is funny since, so far, these seem to be bogus. The questions they ask sound like they almost know what they are doing but they are often right on the edge of being incorrect questions. I don't see what they are up to. Maybe this is used to create an exclusive list for the Nigerian letters. I get more of these now at this mail address then I do with my hotmail account. I'm only on two mail groups with this account. My hotmail is bursting with offers to enhance or reduce various parts of my body. I can't think why anyone smart enough to work on classic computers would be stupid enough to fall for one of these scams. I've even started replying to some of these scammers to let them know that their email address harvesting methods were being used by so many other scammers that they were most likely worthless. I do this in the hopes that they'll find some other method that doesn't include me. Dwight >From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com> > >On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Hanan Friedman wrote: > >> I have the same drum problem. I appreciate very much if you could help me on >> advise of how to put the printer into Service Mode and reset the page >> counter to 00000 > >I've noticed in the past few weeks a lot of messages from newbies that >don't seem to be subscribed to the list, but who are responding to old >messages or just posting general questions and such. Was the list address >posted as some sort of open help forum in some news article or something? > >Or is this just the magic of Google? > >-- > >Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org > > * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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scanning booklets for archive

by cb＠mythtech.net

>It worries me (a lot) that you'd throw anything out after scanning it, >considering that that paper version is easier to read and will last a >lot longer than any scanned version... Space... I'm out of space. I can fits lots and lots of stacks of paper onto a single CD if I scan them all. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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_offline_ scanning.

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Anybody offer a scanner that goes directly to disk, >possibly via TWAIN over USB? Seems possible >since there are digital camera solutions that do that. >My dad wants to do scanning and is computer shy... >the idea is that I would visit him semiregularly and >offload/OCR/organize his work then. >This would involve the destruction of NO manuals. I don't know about directly to disk, but I can say that Adobe Acrobat's "Import from Scanner" feature makes it just about directly to disk. With Acrobat (full version, not Reader), when I choose import, it brings up my scanner control, I click SCAN (or change options if I want, but I have it preset to how I want things and it keeps it how I last set it). My scanner starts, scans the sheets in the sheet feeder, and then Acrobat prompts me to reinsert for the back side, or asks if there are any more pages (depending on if I said it was double or single sided). Once the scan process is done, I'm left with an open new PDF file of all the scanned pages, in order (including properly ordering the double sided pages). I just choose Save, give it a name, and I'm done. So basically, it isn't directly to disk, but it is only about 6 steps to a finished product, and all the steps are fairly simple so a quick cheat sheet of directions might be enough for all but the full fledged technophobes. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Data conversion (Commodore 64, 8250 Disk Drive, SuperBase)

by ls＠essential.com.au

Teoz, The specs differ a fair bit from the 8250 to the 1571. The 8250 can store 1024k per disk (http://www.zimmers.net/cbmpics/deieee2.html) whereas the 1571 can store 360k per disk (http://www.zimmers.net/cbmpics/d1571s.html) so I don't think this is an option. As far as importing into access goes, I am willing to do a bit of mucking around. Getting the data in plain text would be great. Lance. -----Original Message----- From: TeoZ [mailto:teoz@neo.rr.com] Sent: Friday, 25 July 2003 9:05 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Data conversion (Commodore 64, 8250 Disk Drive, SuperBase) If a commodore 1571 drive can read your disk you can connect the 1571 direct to a pc via parrallel port and use software to dump the files directly to the pc. Converting the database to access might be a problem if the format isnt standard. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2743816122&category=1247 I have used this type of cable to copy files from a pc to a 1541 drive and back , supports 1571 (double sided 5.25) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lance Semmens" <ls(a)essential.com.au> To: "Cctalk (E-mail)" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 7:19 PM Subject: Data conversion (Commodore 64, 8250 Disk Drive, SuperBase) > I have 4 disks (5 1/4 floppies) full of data that I'm looking to import into > an Access Database. > The data was written on a Commodore 64 with an 8250 double disk drive. The > custom software > that was being used sat on top of a SuperBase database. > > If anyone has the means to convert this data or can offer some tips as to > how I could go about > doing this it would be much appreciated. > > Thanks, > Lance.

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More Acorn finds + Numonics graphics tablet

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jul 24, 23:03, Jules Richardson wrote: > Details on the A310 cards would be nice - specs of the video digitiser, Can't remember the specs offhand. IIRC it's possible to get colour out of it (all the early Acorn demos were made with one) but I think the native mode of operation is monochrome. I have one, and I have the software on an 800K ADFS E disk, though I haven't used it in at least a decade. I also have some of the colour demos done with it. The only thing I don't have, and which I'd dearly like to find, is the spoof of the BBC rotating globe that was done using images from the digitiser -- Aunty complained and all the copies I had access to got withdrawn. It uses SWIs contained in the EPROM on the card to drive the hardware; the version I have is 2.51, which I remember getting from Mike Harrison (who designed it) specially -- it's not the normal release version. > what > scanner plugs into the scanner card (it has an 8 pin min-DIN, a 20 pin > connector, and what appears to be power output), Sounds like the Beebug scanner, or possibly the Computer Concepts one (which may have used the same scanner head). Mine used a Mitsubishi scan head which was the width of A4 and rolled over a flat sheet, but there was also a sheet feeder available which used the 8-pin miniDIN. The 20-way subminiature D-connector is the connection to the scan head. It could also be used with those little scanner hand units (the ones that look like a fat barcode scanner). IIRC, the power jack is an input, for scanners that take more power than the backplane is supposed to provide. > and what the hell a Nexus card > is / does... If it's what I think it is, it was something that either SJ Research or Lingenuity built to hook a few Archimedes machines onto a SCSI bus to share a hard drive. I could be thinking of something else, though. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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scanning booklets for archive

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Err, if it's worth scanning, then it must have value to someone, and >therefore it's worth preserving the original. Believe me, if I think there is anything that others might want, I'll offer them before throwing them out. And if I think it is something that has value, I'll be sure to check for takers before doing anything that will remove that value (such as cutting bindings to make sheet feeding easier). At the moment, all I have scanned is "test" items. Things that either were already offered and then thrown out when no one wanted them (such as the amplifier manuals I offered months ago that I was able to recover >from my growing pile of scrap paper), or items that have zero value outside of my direct work (old in-house instruction manuals for equipment or processes). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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scanning booklets for archive

by cb＠mythtech.net

>So are these pdf's on a website or ftp site I can get at them? At the moment, no, none of mine are. But I've just started. Depending on how large of a collection I wind up with (and copyrights to the collection), I may either put them all on a site for download, or put some, or put a list of them with a way to request a copy. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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scanning booklets for archive

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

> It worries me (a lot) that you'd throw anything out after scanning it, > considering that that paper version is easier to read and will last a > lot longer than any scanned version... He can always print it out once it's been scanned... ;-) <ducks> J. ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/

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Data conversion (Commodore 64, 8250 Disk Drive, SuperBase)

by ls＠essential.com.au

I have 4 disks (5 1/4 floppies) full of data that I'm looking to import into an Access Database. The data was written on a Commodore 64 with an 8250 double disk drive. The custom software that was being used sat on top of a SuperBase database. If anyone has the means to convert this data or can offer some tips as to how I could go about doing this it would be much appreciated. Thanks, Lance.

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More Acorn finds + Numonics graphics tablet

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Hi all, I managed to pick over some more Acorn hardware that was awaiting disposal at a school yesterday and today. I only had about an hour to look over everything, and there were well over 100 machines piled into a room and cupboard, so as you can imagine it was a little frantic to sort out the good stuff. (case screws flying everywhere as I was pulling useful ROMs from stacks of dead machines :-) Came away with the following: Two Master Compacts, plus a third system unit for spares use. Two ICL-built BBC B's. (serial #'s 36xx and 38xx I think) Two standard Master 128's BBC B with a Watford DDB3 module plugged into socket for IC78 BBC B with a 3.5" floppy drive + bootable print server disk BBC B with Aries B20 / B12 boards installed Master 128 with a Cox 630B genlock card Two Master Turbo machines Music 5000 synthesizer unit Acorn A3010 Acorn A310 A310 "Computer Concepts Scanner Interface" board A310 Nexus interface board A310 video digitiser board (Watford) Around 30 spare Econet modules for Master / A3xx machines Econet kit (clock box etc) still boxed Aries B20 / B12 board Aries B32 / B12 board 6502 coprocessor board Four 486 DX4/100 processor boards on a small backplane (RiscPC?) Cub monitor (my only previous example caught fire!) Acorn RGB monitor w/SCART connection Numerous floppy drives, video leads, Econet connection boxes, spare keyboards, spare PSUs, ROMs etc. Various manuals - not dug into these yet. Numonics 2206 graphics tablet still in its box Questions: Three of the BBC B machines have an IC/module plugged into one of the ROM sockets with a label saying "RAM". The modules are twice the height of a normal IC and have a red and black wire coming out of them. The red wire is soldered to the system board; the black wire has an IC leg clip at the end of it. Any ideas what these are? What does that Watford DDB3 module do? Details on the A310 cards would be nice - specs of the video digitiser, what scanner plugs into the scanner card (it has an 8 pin min-DIN, a 20 pin connector, and what appears to be power output), and what the hell a Nexus card is / does... Information on the genlock card in the Master would be useful. ROMs / software / whatever for the Music 5000 unit could come in handy! I only have the unit itself. *Any* info on the Numonics tablet would be great. It appears to be complete (minus manuals - grr!) and supposedly works, but I don't even know what it plugs into and I don't have any driver software for it. (I'm not even sure how old it is :) Pretty much everything seems to be healthy; one of the ICL B's needs the chips reseating I think and the other one has a track / joint fault in the PSU but otherwise is OK. The Master with the genlock is dead so I'm hoping the genlock card has survived! Fills in a few gaps in the collection anyway. Quick pics of the room as found are at: www.moosenet.demon.co.uk/temp/bbc cheers Jules ===== Backward conditioning: putting saliva in a dog's mouth in an attempt to make a bell ring. ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/

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scanning booklets for archive

by cb＠mythtech.net

>He could sell or give away the paper version once it's been >scanned (although slicing it to bits may make this harder and >not slicing it to bits means the scanning takes longer). I guess >selling it might be sufficient motive to take longer over the >scanning and not slice a manual. So far none of the stuff I have scanned I think has any selling value (some of it was already offered on this list and no one took it, I actually pulled it from the garbage to scan them). Anything that I think has value I will certainly either take the effort to scan without damaging it, or find out if there is value BEFORE I destroy it. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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[Re: Breaking News] (Oops)

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

Sellam was nice enough to let me know that the email to my son had ended up on the mailing list by mistake. Thank you Sellam. Having not read much of the list traffic since this war started, I probably would have not known for a long time until I go back and do some catching up. I checked and sure enough, I had sent it to the list instead. I am unsure how it happened. The list address and his address are miles apart in the address book. I'll try to blame it on a misbehaving mouse or something. For those that may want to know. My son is near Mosul. His unit is with the 101st. The unit operates a number of OH-58 Kiowa gunships. The news footage of Tuesday's fire fight showed a couple of Kiowa's overhead. I had asked him if they were from his unit and it appears they were. I am thankful that all he does is maintain the choppers and therefore his butt stays back at the unit's base most of the time. I'll ask the list to forgive this intrusion with stuff unrelated to classic computers. Mike Thompson

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