If the drive in question is MFM, then Low Level Formatting is appropriate. For some drives, the LLF routine was available on disk, accessable by way of DEBUG.EXE. However, since the drive is only 8 years old, my guess is that it is IDE, and, as such, LLF was generally not a user option. For IDE drives in MS-DOS, you would first run FDISK to create/change the partitions, then run FORMAT to build the new FATs. MS-DOS 6.22 is probably the best version to use, if you have it. You could also get DR-DOS. Avoid MS-DOS 4.0.
As has been mentioned, Gene, if you are concerned about making data recovery hard, first run something like Norton's WIPEDISK, then FDISK and FORMAT the drive.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Innfogra(a)aol.com [mailto:Innfogra@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:25 AM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Low Level Format
<snip> I was lucky and they were MFM drives I could low level
format.
<snip>
Paxton
Astoria, OR
In a message dated 8/20/03 9:39:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
mail.list(a)analog-and-digital-solutions.com writes:
> . I've found the partitioning utility that came with
> OS2 Warp to be useful when FDISK sometimes wouldn't work.
>
Thanks for the tip. I, too, have run into partitions like you mentioned that
would not delete. I was lucky and they were MFM drives I could low level
format.
IIRC removing and replacing the partition table should effectively destroy
the links to the data on the drive. True the data bits are still there and
sophisticated analysis could get them off but I don't think it is easy without
knowing the original geometry of the drive. Then regular formatting the drive
writes a new File Allocation Table to the drive.
If it is important you could use Norton to write zeros to all the data bits
in each partition and then FDISK it. That would probably make the disk
unrecoverable.
I know there are utilities out there to low level format IDE drives but have
never found it or used it. I don't think it is common. Generally I have just
pitched bad IDE Drives into Al breakage. For Certified destruction I have used
a sledge hammer.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
Colin,
Might you have a copy of the basic compiler or basic
disk for the 5360?
i have most of the other languages for the sys 36 but
need a copy of basic.
tape or 8 in diskette is ok.
Bill
Message: 4
Subject: IBM 5360 FREE to good hom
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
From: "Colin Eby" <ceby2(a)csc.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 21:42:34 -0400
Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
Okay --
One more time.... Can I persuade any of you nice folks
on this list to
come
cart off my IBM?
Colin
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Thank you, Rich ! It would be very useful for me. The version of
CP/NET that I'm using is 1.1, but the 1.0 is a good choice too,
I think (with the documentation). Yesterday I proceed to extract
and compile the RS232 version of SNIOS. Actually, the CP/NET
requester do a full load, but cause of one parameter
(always$retries, if I remember well) appears to hang itself and
don't returns to CP/M. The problem can be too in the particular CCP
that comes with CP/NET, and this can fail in the reload after the
load of CP/NET main block, but this is a matter to investigate.
Once I solve it, I must locate what SIO is using CP/NET to try
to establish communications.
Next step would be to check what SIO or Serial Ports are defined
under ALTAIRZ80 with its IO Device or Port Identifiers.
After this, it must be modified the SNIOS to select one free and
safe IO port.
And finally comes the SIMH matter... Map one of the simulated SIOs
with one real RS232 can be relatively easy under Linux/Unix, but not
under Windoze (perhaps with one IP to RS232 mapper I've used sometimes)
and this make me think in one interprocessor solution (that links
two copies of SIMH running at same time) applied in the HP2100
simulator. This would suppose to link the simulated RS232 of a couple
of SIMH with one chain mechanism already implemented in the HP2100
sim.
But, of course, the funny thing would be to connect one Altos 586
with MP/M with one PeeCee with SIMH running ;-)
Thanks again. If you want to send me the CP/NET stuff by mail, this is
my address:
Sergio Pedraja
Calle San Luis 4, 1
39010 Santander
Spain
I pay the shipping costs. But, of course, the email is more economic
:-)
Cheers
Sergio
----- Mensaje Original -----
Remitente: "Rich Beaudry" <r_beaudry(a)hotmail.com>
Fecha: Jueves, Agosto 21, 2003 5:22 am
Asunto: CP/NET
> Sergio,
>
> >I am trying to obtain one copy of CP/NET or MPM/NET.
> >In .dsk format suitable to be used with SIMH simulators.
>
> <snip>
>
> >I can't locate two binaries, MAIL.COM and SERVER.RSP
>
> I have a disk (8", SSSD) labeled "CP/NET 1.0". I also have a
> photocopy of
> the User's Guide for CP/NET (3rd Printing, 1981). The files you
> are looking
> for are not there, but perhaps you have a different version of
> CP/NET. Mine
> appears to be complete, judging from a quick look through the
> manual. There
> are two .COM files for electronic mail (SNDMAIL.COM and
> RCVMAIL.COM), and
> there are also "server" versions of these files. Also, the only
> differenceI can see for the server side is a change in
> NETWRKIF.RSP. There are full
> directions for altering the server and client setups in the manual.
>
> >In the good side, I could generate the NETWRKIF.RSP
> >file using the indications in the CP/NET manual.
>
> My manual also has complete directions. I haven't tried them out,
> however....
>
> >Of course, this is only a first step. If all goes well we
> >couldn't have yet one CP/NET working environment.
> >Here is where I'm lost. What kind of "network" devices
> >used CP/NET ? In the manual comes one example to
> >customize one SNIOS.RSP in the cliente to use one
> >Serial Port, but I assume the existence of others. I think
> >it would be great to allow the simulation of one
> >MP/M-CP/NET-CP/M network with a couple
> >(or more) of SIMH AltairZ80's running at same time.
>
> My manual also only mentions serial devices (in fact, it even suggests
> sample 7-bit and 8-bit serial protocols, and message formats).
> According to
> the manual, NETWRKIF and SNIOS would have to be altered for a new
> device.It would most likely be very difficult to alter them to
> work with new
> networking hardware. If SIMH connects the emulated computer's
> serial ports
> to the real PC ports, then perhaps it would be best to go with two
> computers, hooked by serial cables, one running MP/M and CP/NET
> ("master"),and the other running CP/M and CP/NET ("slave")
>
> Hope this helps, and if you want, I can supply a PC-format disk
> with all
> files from my CP/NET 1.0 disk. I could also supply a
> scan/photocopy of the
> manual as well....
>
> Rich B.
There is another command to run. To get rid of the partitions you will need
to use FDISK.
Once you get rid of the three partitions and reformat it as a single
partition you should be OK.
I would use DOS 6.22, because that is what I have.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
Sergio,
>I am trying to obtain one copy of CP/NET or MPM/NET.
>In .dsk format suitable to be used with SIMH simulators.
<snip>
>I can't locate two binaries, MAIL.COM and SERVER.RSP
I have a disk (8", SSSD) labeled "CP/NET 1.0". I also have a photocopy of
the User's Guide for CP/NET (3rd Printing, 1981). The files you are looking
for are not there, but perhaps you have a different version of CP/NET. Mine
appears to be complete, judging from a quick look through the manual. There
are two .COM files for electronic mail (SNDMAIL.COM and RCVMAIL.COM), and
there are also "server" versions of these files. Also, the only difference
I can see for the server side is a change in NETWRKIF.RSP. There are full
directions for altering the server and client setups in the manual.
>In the good side, I could generate the NETWRKIF.RSP
>file using the indications in the CP/NET manual.
My manual also has complete directions. I haven't tried them out,
however....
>Of course, this is only a first step. If all goes well we
>couldn't have yet one CP/NET working environment.
>Here is where I'm lost. What kind of "network" devices
>used CP/NET ? In the manual comes one example to
>customize one SNIOS.RSP in the cliente to use one
>Serial Port, but I assume the existence of others. I think
>it would be great to allow the simulation of one
>MP/M-CP/NET-CP/M network with a couple
>(or more) of SIMH AltairZ80's running at same time.
My manual also only mentions serial devices (in fact, it even suggests
sample 7-bit and 8-bit serial protocols, and message formats). According to
the manual, NETWRKIF and SNIOS would have to be altered for a new device.
It would most likely be very difficult to alter them to work with new
networking hardware. If SIMH connects the emulated computer's serial ports
to the real PC ports, then perhaps it would be best to go with two
computers, hooked by serial cables, one running MP/M and CP/NET ("master"),
and the other running CP/M and CP/NET ("slave")
Hope this helps, and if you want, I can supply a PC-format disk with all
files from my CP/NET 1.0 disk. I could also supply a scan/photocopy of the
manual as well....
Rich B.
>From: Federico <nuvola66(a)katamail.com>
>
>Fabio Finotti wrote:
>I would like project a circuit to emulate a old 8 inch floppy disk
>(tandon tm848 e).
>So i would like to know wath kind of signal the controller send to
>floppy drive and the reponse
>of floppy to controller.
>
>Thank you.
>
Hi
You should look at a data sheet for something like
a WD1793 or nec765. This will help in understanding
normal formats. Of course, you do not have to use these.
There are a number of control and status signals
to deal with head load, motor control, stepping, index
detection and door closed. There are usually to data
lines, one for read and one for write ( with the exception
early 8" that had built-in clock/data separators.
Typically, the clock and data are encoded with one
of several methods. FM, MFM and M2FM are a few. These
are methods of keeping the clocking with the data.
On floppies, it is necessary to have regular transitions
of the write signal ( no long strings of constant levels ).
This is because most early read heads used coils and
required edges to be detected ( coil heads are differentiators ).
New hard disk heads may use techniques that see the actual
strength of field.
Most soft sectored formats use illegal clock/data sequences
to make the beginnings of sectors( by illegal I mean that
they can't exist in the data portion ). These are usually called
address marks.
Like I said, look at the data sheets. They explain these things.
Dwight
I was going to do this offline, but I have had a couple of requests for
this info, so I will put it out to the list. I do not have the manuals
scanned, so I will excerpt from them. If any of you reading this have
one of the systems (or part of) that ends in an 8, meaning an 8 MB drive,
I would especially like to hear from you in order to try to see if it is
the electronics or the actual drive that I have that is bad. I have 3
working 30 MB systems, and I think I will be getting rid of them soon, as
I have moved the software over to a PC.
Here goes the explanation on the DSD 880 series from my perspective.
Data Systems Design (Qualogy) made two disk subsystems for Digital Equipment
Corporation (DEC) computers. It is possible they made other models, and
other adapters for Prime or DG, but I don't know anything about them.
The subsystems were external, in a 19 inch wide case, about 24 inches deep,
and about 6 inches high. They used a ribbon cable, 26 pin to connect to
the backplane adapter. The adapter had diagnostics upon bootstrap and
a bootstrap prom on it. The models were DSD 880xnn, where the X was either
an S or a D, meaning a single sided 8" floppy drive or a double sided 8"
floppy drive. The nn was either 8 or 20 or 30 for the megabytes. The
floppy emulated an RX02 or the double sided emulated an RX03 with a patch
to the OS. The winchester emulated an RL01 (8 MB with some waste), a short
RL02 (10MB) with a couple of megabytes of bad blocks, or 2 or 3 RL02s with
a patch to the OS for 3 RL02's. I am also doing this mostly in context of
RT-11. The manuals I have are dated 1982 and 1984, so that gives you some
idea of the age.
The bootstrap will boot either the floppy or the hard drive. There were
two different formatter/controller cards, models 8840 and 8841. There were
a few different adapter/interface cards, 8832 and 8836 for q-bus and 8830
for unibus. The winchesters had head and spindle locks located in access
doors underneath, for shipping. There was a modification to the 8836 to
support 22 bit addressing. The 8832/8836 are dual wide boards, while the
8830 is a quad board. The configuration of the 8832 and 8836 are in two
jumper blocks at location F4 and D3 on the card. These control the location
of the RL CSR, the boot address/enable, the floppy CSR, dma burst length,
the RL and floppy vector addresses and the priority levels. The unibus
version has similar features in 5 locations. The units shipped with a
diagnostic floppy that had a diagnostic monitor, a floppy and winchester
exerciser, a diagnostic program for the winchester in RL emulation and
a scan program for bad blocks.
The hyperdiagnostics panel is similar between the 8 and 20/30 drives,
except the mode 0 stuff is different. I will start with mode 1 stuff,
where the panel has mode and class (left,right)
Mode 1: floppy disk format stuff
class 0 format double density
class 1 format single density
class 2 set media to double density
class 3 set media to single density
class 4 set media double density and scan
class 5 set media single density and scan
Mode 2: system tests
class 0 floppy disk exerciser and write
class 1 ditto, but no write
class 2 fixed disk exerciser
class 3 floppy/fixed disk exerciser, write floppy
class 4 single pass of class 3
class 5 single pass of class 3 without write
class 6 floppy/fixed disk exerciser, no fixed/floppy write
class 7 fixed disk write enable, use this before fixed write tests
Mode 3: more hardware tests
class 0 controller switch and indicator test
class 1 general controller tests, alu,mem, crc, pll
class 2 alu and serdes test
class 3 memory test
class 4 crc test
class 5 pll test
class 6 display microcode version
mode 4: floppy disk alignment stuff.
pretty specific, must have sa800/sa850 floppy maint manual
mode 5: read/write tests
class 0 single pass sequential scan floppy
class 1 butterfly seek floppy
class 2 butterfly read floppy headers
class 3 sequential write/read floppy
class 4 sequential scan hard drive
class 5 butterfly seek hard drive
class 6 sequential write/read hard drive
class 7 fixed disk write enable ( do before 6)
Mode 6 and 7 are for offline backup and restore, except 7 - 7
which is to set the floppy-type flag on the winchester bat track map
to tell the system if it is a single or double sided floppy, or no floppy.
Finally there are 40 or so error codes that can pop up in the diagnostic
display.
Hope this satisfies some of the curiosity.
Joe Heck
Okay --
One more time.... Can I persuade any of you nice folks on this list to come
cart off my IBM?
Colin
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Microsoft wins because of the thing he mentioned about
development support. They support developers.
Developers love Linux and support it, but it is a pain
to develop for Linux compared to microsoft.
The business case he makes about absorbing and running
microsoft applications is probably right too, but I
doubt that Microsoft will allow it to happen. There
are
too many "no reverse engineer" minefields in the EULA
now to allow it to happen anyway.
As he said, rolling out thousands of units during the
implementation of a massive application needs really
solid
support and tools.
I don't think that the fact that everyone can roll
their own development is necessarily a plus for Linux.
Having the mass that an IBM or Microsoft lends with
their market position to making it possible to have a
single product from top to bottom to use is way
cheaper
than the current Linux way. You have Redhat and SUSE,
but they still have the problem that if you make a
commercial Linux App you have to have a RH7.1 RH7.2
RH8 and RH9 all with different nuances (and not minor
ones) to support the market, where with Microsoft you
usually need only one, or can buy a package to handle
the differences from someone.
I have read on mailing list the your message that speaks about floppy disk
and controller :
>Read/Write
>signals,
>normally using a 26LS31 driver and 26LS32 receiver.
>But in a sense they're analogue in _time_. In write mode, the >drive
>writes a flux transition to the disk for every pulse on the >write data
>line. In read mode, the drive sends a pulse on the read data >line for
>every flux transition on the disk. There are some restrictions >on
>allowable frequencies of transisitions, of course.
etc. etc.
I am looking for documentation on the floppy disk interface.I would like
to use a floppy disk in order to save data but I don't know how format
them. Can you help me? ?
Fabio
Pat, I can explain pretty precisely how to test the dsd880-8, but I think
we should do it off line.
Thanks,
Joe Heck
username is trash3,
address is splab.cas.neu.edu
Ed sharpe wrote:
> Please see the Donner analog computer at:
> http://www.smecc.org/analog_computers.htm
> we would like to get enough stuff and some docs to get it operational.
I have the "Instruction Manual" that includes operation, servicing,
part lists, and schematics.
Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
>Ed, what model number is this?
The top three panels make up a rack mounted model 3500.
I can't see enough detail of the bottom two panels to tell
for sure, probably some kind of accessories.
Ed sharpe wrote:
>it says donner 3500 as I remember. so it is earlier than a
>sysdon donner, although I remember the instruction manual
>( lost probably 20 years ago during a computer exchange inc.
>warehouse clean out party) said sysdon donner....
The manuals says manufactured by Donner Scientific Company
a division of Systron-Donner Corporation.
>what would you folks date it at?
The manual is dated January 1960
>I remember there was also a bag of little rectangular boxes with
>jack tips on them that help components also. ( again missing)
I would bet good money that the banana jacks on the patch
panel are exactly 3/4" apart. In that case you can use a double
banana plug as a component holder.
>in the library here we do have a copy of the korn and korn
>book on analog computers.
Just about a month ago I got an email from Granino Korn
saying how much he like my little museum.
--Doug
=========================================
Doug Coward
@ home in Poulsbo, WA
Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center
http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/analog
=========================================
Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Aug 2003, Al Kossow wrote:
> > FWIW, you CANNOT ship these USPS media mail, since that
> > rate cannot be used for any publication that contains
> > advertizing.
>
> I've done it plenty of times with old magazines, and I don't have any
> qualms with it because the ads are no longer current or even relevant.
I think it's a goofy requirement too, but frankly it depends on your
postal inspector(s). Maybe you've seen signs at the Post Office
informing you that any USPS employee can open a package sent Media
Mail and inspect the contents? I have, in Mountain View, California
(deepest darkest Sillycon Valley).
I don't know what happens if they open it up and find vintage computer
magazines loaded with advertising, but "Media Mail can not contain
advertising except for incidental announcements of books" (from
<http://www.usps.com/send/waystosendmail/senditwithintheus/mediamail.htm>)
and I'm not sure how the bureaucracy will interpret the 25-year-old
advertisements in 25-year-old magazines, but it probably depends on
how irritable its local rep is feeling that day. I expect that if
they go after anyone it will be the shipper, as he's the paying
customer.
I'm pretty sure I've read posts over on rec.collecting.books by
booksellers angsting over this. Maybe Al's run into that too.
> Anyone who's ever shipped me old magazines has done it using Media Mail
> and they've never had problems.
The way you're probably supposed to do this (according to the
bureaucracy) is Bound Printed Matter. But that has problems which
recommend against it. First, parcel weight is limited to 15 pounds.
Second, "Bound Printed Matter with no ancillary service endorsement
that is undeliverable-as-addressed is disposed of by USPS." (from
<http://pe.usps.gov/text/qsg/q720.htm>).
-Frank McConnell
Hi.
I am new to list... joined because got 2 nice computers.
CBM 8032 and HP 2622A... Sold CBM already but would like to know
more about this HP terminal. What it can be used for and how to get keyboard
for it.
.jukka andersson
finland.
I sent this reply a couple of days ago but it never
appeared in the digest so I can only assume that
it went into the univeral bit bucket. Here it is again.
======== Resending ==================
Ed sharpe wrote:
> Please see the Donner analog computer at:
> http://www.smecc.org/analog_computers.htm
> we would like to get enough stuff and some docs to get it operational.
I have the "Instruction Manual" that includes operation, servicing,
part lists, and schematics.
Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
>Ed, what model number is this?
The top three panels make up a rack mounted model 3500.
I can't see enough detail of the bottom two panels to tell
for sure, probably some kind of accessories.
Ed sharpe wrote:
>it says donner 3500 as I remember. so it is earlier than a
>sysdon donner, although I remember the instruction manual
>( lost probably 20 years ago during a computer exchange inc.
>warehouse clean out party) said sysdon donner....
The manuals says manufactured by Donner Scientific Company
a division of Systron-Donner Corporation.
>what would you folks date it at?
The manual is dated January 1960
>I remember there was also a bag of little rectangular boxes with
>jack tips on them that help components also. ( again missing)
I would bet good money that the banana jacks on the patch
panel are exactly 3/4" apart. In that case you can use a double
banana plug as a component holder.
>in the library here we do have a copy of the korn and korn
>book on analog computers.
Just about a month ago I got an email from Granino Korn
saying how much he like my little museum.
--Doug
=========================================
Doug Coward
@ home in Poulsbo, WA
Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center
http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/analog
=========================================
Ok, I think I've finally figured out how to correctly migrate the lists and
archives from the old machine to the new machine. Yuck! There will be some
downtime. Not sure how long though. Might be two hours or so :\ Now the big
problem is just finding the time to do it. My guess is the list will move
quickly... the archives may take a bit of time, mainly because I want to go
through and clean out some particular posts, and to integrate a few bits of
the list that were missing.
By the way... upon 2nd glance, sendmail wasn't really configured optimally on
the machine. I will rectify that when I reload it all.
Jay
Hi again,
Sorry to pester y'all again on this, but I noticed
in our log file that there was some confusion about
the URL to pick up the code, schematics and documentation
for the USB Documation punched card reader interface:
the period at the end was part of the sentence, not part
of the URL. Sorry about that. So, to the person at
Apple and the person at Boeing -- sorry! Here
is the URL sans punctuation:
http://www.quarterbyte.com/cardread.zip
Brian
I picked this up off another list I am on.
I thought I would pass it on ...
Dan
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> From: Pat Swayne <me(a)patswayne.com>
> To: heathkit(a)mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Heathkit] Old stuff has to go
> Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:27 AM
>
> I'm cleaning up an old house for sale. I have several old Heathkit Items
> that I will give to any one who will provide transportation for them.
These
> include:
>
> An H/Z-100 all-in-one computer with numerous modifications (if you
remember
> me from the REMark days, you know I came up with a lot of mods for that
> machine. It has a Syquest 10 meg removable media hard disk in it, and I
> also have a fixed hard disk I will throw in, and a complete
> technical/service manual with schematics. It was working when last used,
> but that was years ago. Several Syquest cartridges with unknown content
> will be included. I also have AutoCad for this machine, and will throw
that
> in, too.
>
> A complete ID-5001 (I think) Weather computer -- complete except for the
> base unit cabinet. Otherwise, it has all cables, sensors, etc. Working
> condition unknown, but it's assembled.
>
> Many 5.25" disks for anything from H8 ranging to PC, containing HUG
> software, REMark articles, etc.
>
> I live in the Atlanta area, and you can arrange to pick these up by
> emailing me. I might be persuaded to ship these if you send enough money
to
> cover the shipping, boxing, etc. I will be away from home Oct 21-23.
> -- Pat Swayne
Greetings!
Wednesday I put the new 160mb drive in the classiccmp server. I left the 4gb
OS drive in there, and put the 160gb in place of the 20gb data drive. I
brought the 20gb drive home and put it in a temporary system, then put that
temporary system down at our datacenter today. I will install all the newest
versions of OS and all the software we use on this drive in the 20gb temp
machine remotely. Once it's pretty much ready to go, I will take the 20gb
drive out of the temp machine and put it back in the classiccmp machine as
the new OS drive (to replace the 4gb drive). I'm guessing I'll be ready to
do that in a few weeks or so.
In addition, because SO many people were very generous with donations (and
one person was very VERY generous), I was able to upgrade the RAM in the
system to 1gb - as WELL as upgrade the cpu from 667mhz to 1.2ghz. Those two
hardware upgrades were put in place late this afternoon. I chipped in about
$25 bucks myself to cover the balance.
I will let the list know when I get ready to move the new OS drive into
place. There will definitely be a short downtime, followed by (likely) a few
days or so of things going squirrely as I find the things I missed :)
Regards,
Jay West
Hello Terry,
I have a customer who wants 25-30 VAX 4000 machines. I don't normally deal
in this kind of stuff, we are an electronics company, but we are building
some gear for these people and they asked me.
The VAX machines are to be used for sorting mail. This is a system that has
been in operation for 15 years, but they want to replace their present VAX
3800's with VAX 4000's.
Would you be interested in helping on this project, we would pay for your
time, of course?
regards,
David Troutman
Daxten Denmark
+45) 8734 5750 direct
It is a VAX - Digital R400X with a unit that holds a tape unit, harddrives and
more
$100 or make offer
Would have to pick up at Walnut Creek, CA office
Would appreciate referring us to someone who would be interested.
Maria Ross
Maria.Ross(a)synergen.com
hi....
I have 3 Sony SMC-70 computers I need to find good homes for. 1 is
working and the other two boot but do not read the floppy completely.
Maybe some cleaning or adjustment of the floppy drives would help.
2 sets of CP/M for Sony. They do differ a bit. I thought I had some
applications but so far have not found them.
I have what I believe to be all the original documentation (4 loose leaf
note books in cardboard holders):
CP/M Operating System Parts 1-3
Sony SMC-70 Hardware Reference Manual.
1- small paperback Sony SMC-70 Micro Computer Operating Instructions
Addons include:
1-Sony SMC-7086 Supercharger (runs 16 bit apps I believe) but I do not
think the software is on the 2 floppy disks I have. There is a Manual
for this too.
1-SMI-7050 cache disk unit
1-XEBEC-70 (built similar to disk cache unit but not sure what it is)
1-SMI-7016 floppy disk control unit
1- unlabeled part that is similar in build to the 3 above.
I do have a Sony PVM 1271Q Trinitron Color Video Monitor with video
cable. You will however need to adapt a 9 pin connector to a 25 pin
connector (i used a serial cable and broke off one pin to allow use on
the computer side. I do get a very red screen so one would need to check
the pinouts for configuration)
Also, a Sony 1311CR with a cable that may well be adaptable for use.
If I find anything else as I clean I will include it.
Not sure what a value might be. I will entertain all offers for a week
or so and then if there is no interest here put them on eBay. I am
thinking it would be best to keep the working computer and addons
together. If someone were interested in the complete system I would
glady donate the other two to a museum or someone who wants to restore
them.
Jeff Duncan
i have a freind who got himself a self winding clock co of new york ceiling
mount clock which fits the description you are giviing in your article. the
clock is about 24" square
and is a ceiling mount on a wood frame painted silver , same red light on
the face.
i cannot find pictures of these things anywhere can you help ?
thanks
Jim Rapheld San jose calif
Paul Â
If this scanner is like most there are relatively few moving parts  a
scanner head, two rails, a stepper motor and a belt/geartrain. I¹d try small
dabs of grease on the rails on which the head slides and see if that does
it. A tiny bit more on the gear shafts might be in order. My guess is the
rails are dry and the head is squealing as it moves along.
Seth
> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 16:51:12 -0400
> From: "Paul R. Santa-Maria" <paulrsm(a)buckeye-express.com>
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: HP Scanjet 3p maintenance
> Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>
> My HP ScanJet 3p has started to squeal when the mechanism moves.
> I assume it needs to be lubricated. Does anyone have a hardware
> manual for the 3p or know how to disassemble it and what parts
> to grease?
>
> --
> Paul
> Monroe, Michigan USA
Hello
have just collect another RC piccolo 703 that actual works
this time. But it lacks those cpm boot disks, does anyone
have those in his/hers collection ?
Or does anyone know if disk22 can write a format those
machines understand ?
regards Jacob Dahl Pind
--
CBM, Amiga,Vintage hardware collector
Email: rachael(a)rachael.dyndns.org
url: http://rachael.dyndns.org
I too have a NEC Multisync 5D (JC-2002VMA-1) monitor.
I have connected the video cable with HD-15 (3 rows of pins) connector
hooked to the back of the monitor with the other end to VGA card on my IBM
computer. The screen glows when the contrast and brightness is set to max
setting but there is no image. Is there any special tricks to get it to
work?
I do not have the manual. What do the butons in front do?
Can you ofer me any advice geting this to work.
Thanks for any info you can provide,
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
NEC Multisync 5d - being skipped on Friday
Tim Myers cctech(a)classiccmp.org
Wed Mar 26 06:20:43 2003
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If any of you can get to Ellesmere Port, UK, before Friday, you can
collect a NEC Multisync 5D.
It's getting skipped on Friday - I cannot arrange shipping, so please
don't ask.
Please contact me off list, as I'm not monitoring the list actively for
various political reasons...
Tim.
I found an online bank that will give you a $25.00 bonus when you open a
savings account with them. Refer someone, if they open an account, they get
$25.00 and you get $10.00.
(NOT A CHAIN LETTER OR GET RICH SCHEME)
Reply and I'll send you the link to bank's website.
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Hello,I need user info for a compaq slt/286 I:E what modem
type/brand/cable does slt286 use and how to get into bios.Any help would
be greatly appreciated.Thanks
Hello, noticed that you are also looking for dos 3.0. Asking if you
had found it? If so would you let me know. I to am doing some restoration.
Thanks
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I am moving and have decided not to carry my old computer magazines with
me. I have tried donating them to various libraries in the area, but
none are interested. I hate the idea of simply trashing them, but that
may be what happens. If anyone in this group is interested in the
following magazines, and is willing to pay shipping, please contact me
at the email address below:
The C Users Journal, May 1982 - Jan 2001
Dr. Dobb's Journal, Jan 1976 - Apr 2001
Byte, Nov 1976 - Sep 1991
Steve
--
Stephen Browning
stevebrowning(a)comcast.net
I'm not sure what's included in the docs. They are going
to be here in a few weeks. I will make a quick pass before
I pass them on to Sellam. If there is anything good that is
not on Jim's site, I will scan and pass it on to Jim. (I just
got a multisheet standalone scanner that scans to PDF so
it should not be too much of a hassle).
Kirk
> Jim Battle Wrote
> Kirk --
>what exactly does he have?
>I might be interested -- btw, I run the Sol archive at
>http://www.thebattles.net/sol20/sol.html
First of all, apologies to those who wanted something the first time
around, I kinda dropped off the face of the 'net there for a while.
This was my own dumb fault. The first time I tried the basement sale, I
did it at a very bad time for me, in that I couldn't fulfill requests
and get things out to people. That and some technical problems (read:
forgot to make new backups of email before wiping hard drive) that
caused me to lose a lot of my email didn't help matters. I finally have
some time to write up a list, as well as fulfill requests. So, once
again, apologies all around, and I _will_ keep things straight this
time around.
NOTE: All prices are just a suggestion, feel free to make an offer.
Buyer to pay actual shipping charges from ZIP 12309
DEC VT220 Terminals - I have a lot of these, with green, white and
amber picture tubes. They are in good working order, but were used in a
school for a while and are somewhat yellowed, and have had most of the
old markings cleaned off. Some have light screen burn. I have cleaned
and tested them, and they work well. Includes keyboard. - $15
DEC LK-201 Keyboards - These were used in a school for a time, and have
had the old markings cleaned off. All keys are present and accounted
for, and they have been cleaned and tested. - $5
Macintosh ADB keyboards - I have lots of these and lots of different
models, if you want a specific model, just ask; I probably have it.
I'll also include a cable - $3
Macintosh ADB mice - $1
Macintosh ADB cables - 50 cents
Apple IIgs keyboards - $3
Apple Disk II disk drives - $5
Apple UniDisk 5.25 drives, both beige and platinum colored - $3
Apple 800k external 3 1/2" floppy drives - $5
Apple IIe computers, both regular and extended models - $6
Apple IIgs computers, both ROM 1 and ROM 3 models. Includes keyboard
and mouse - $8
Macintosh Plus computer, 4mb RAM, with keyboard and mouse - $10
Macintosh SE computer, 4mb RAM, 40 meg hard drive, with keyboard and
mouse - $10
Macintosh LC II and III computers, no keyboard or mouse - $3
Apple RGB Color monitor for Apple IIgs computers - $10
Apple monochrome green composite monitor for Apple II computers (the
one with the tilt screen) - $6
Computer power cords - 25 cents
40 megabyte SCSI hard drives - $2
80 megabyte SCSI hard drives - $3
Other stuff: Make offer.
PC/XT Parts - I have a couple really sad looking XT's that are going
out, let me know if you need parts, or if you want the whole thing,
rusted case and all.
Macintosh computer parts - I have drives and boards for many old
Macintosh computers, if you are looking for something, let me know and
I'll see if I have it.
PC Clone parts - I have disk drives, power supplies, motherboards, ISA
cards, etc. from various PC clones from 8088's up to Pentium 1's. I
also have some a pile of no-name clones from 386's to Pentium 1's that
I am parting out. Let me know if you are looking for something.
Apple IIe and IIgs parts. I have parts, boards and peripherals for
Apple II computers. Let me know what you are looking for.
Monitors - I have a surplus of old computer monitors, mostly old
monochrome composite monitors, Macintosh monitors, and old VGA monitors.
Printers - Dot matrix printers for Commodore 64, dot-matrix printers
for PC parallel ports, HP Deskjet and Deskwriter printers, and Apple
StyleWriter printers.
I also have an old Selectric typewriter (IIRC a Selectric II). The
cable on the type ball assembly appears to be broken or loose, as it
doesn't move predictably, or always in the right direction. I don't
know if any of the parts are useful to anyone for older IBM printing
terminals.
Everything that needs a power cord comes with one. In fact, even if it
doesn't need one it'll probably come with one. I have like three boxes
of them.
Ian Primus
ian_primus(a)yahoo.com
If anyone in this group is interested in the
following magazines, and is willing to pay shipping
--
FWIW, you CANNOT ship these USPS media mail, since that
rate cannot be used for any publication that contains
advertizing.
>From: "Al Kossow" <aek(a)spies.com>
>
>If anyone in this group is interested in the
>following magazines, and is willing to pay shipping
>
>--
>
>FWIW, you CANNOT ship these USPS media mail, since that
>rate cannot be used for any publication that contains
>advertizing.
>
Hi
Shipping from where???
Dwight
Steve,
Where would they be shipped from?
Kelvin
>>> stevebrowning(a)comcast.net Monday, August 18, 2003 4:53:43 PM >>>
I am moving and have decided not to carry my old computer magazines with
me. I have tried donating them to various libraries in the area, but
none are interested. I hate the idea of simply trashing them, but that
may be what happens. If anyone in this group is interested in the
following magazines, and is willing to pay shipping, please contact me
at the email address below:
The C Users Journal, May 1982 - Jan 2001
Dr. Dobb's Journal, Jan 1976 - Apr 2001
Byte, Nov 1976 - Sep 1991
Steve
--
Stephen Browning
stevebrowning(a)comcast.net
It will boot from the video-in if you have a bootable tape.
Larry
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]On
Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 11:06 AM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Alpha-Micro 1000
FYI:
I finally got around to posting some pictures of the Alpha Micro 1000
that I picked up a couple of weeks ago. Here's a link;
<http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/am-1000/>
Unlike the AM-100 this one has no buss system in it but does have a
connector for an optional I/O
card on the left size (facing the computer). It also has a connector for a
daughterboard on the right side. Mine has an AM-706 memory card there. I
also have an optional I/O card installed in the left side. The card in mine
is a PIICEON SR 1000-8P. It adds 8 additional serial ports to the system.
(there are 3 serial ports built in). The main circuit card is a large
custom card that is almost as big as the case. The card hinges up to
reveal
the power supply and hard drive and floppy drive (if equipped). This one
has no floppy drive but does have a 190 Mb Maxtor hard drive. I've been
able to get it to run self test and everything passes fine except that the
system says that there's no har drive contoller in it. Since it doesn't
think there's a HD controller it never boots. I haven't gotten around to
troubleshooting it so at the moment it's just collectiung dust.
Joe
I have a line on a load of SOL docs available for the price of
shipping from LA. Speak up and they are yours. Preference given to people
that have archived docs and made available to others - eg, scanned and
put online. (Not that I would ever be responsible enough to do this
myself :-)
Kirk