I have dredged up my Atrona system and will try
to make some floppy copies for interested parties
soon.
I belive I have floppies to boot both the 8 bit
processor, and the 16 bit service processor into
MS/Dos 2.x (2.1 maybe).
I'll post again when I get the system tested and
running.
It uses standard 3 1/2" floppies (I think 720K,
again I'll have to post when I check it out).
Jim
> realized what was going on. So now I need a new printball and some advice on
> what to do about the missing rubber? hammer cover.
If the damage isn't too bad you can carefully file/sand down the damaged
areas so they are the same height and it will print better. The one
on the following picture had that problem and is readable but not great.
With a little more work probably could be a little better by reshaping/
flattening individual letters but decided to stop at good enough.
Print sample
http://www.pdp8.net/asr33/dms.jpg
This is my repair with a stick on foot.
http://www.pdp8.net/asr33/pics/ph_top.shtml?small
David Gesswein
http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Run an old computer with blinkenlights
>From: "John Honniball" <coredump(a)gifford.co.uk>
>
>Peter Turnbull wrote:
>> It's over 10 years old, and it's microprocessor-compatible, but it's an
>> analogue to digital converter chip, not a computer. It's also not in
>> my spares box, and I need one. Does anyone have a spare? Or a data
>> sheet?
>
>I only have a couple of ZN428 chips, and the data sheet for them. I may
>have data for the ZN448 -- I'll have a look. It was a Ferranti part,
>if that helps at all.
>
Many ADC had a large number of replacements. The trick is finding
them. There was no uniform part numbering for these, like was done
in the TTL world.
Dwight
On Aug 28, 22:39, Tony Duell wrote:
> > It's over 10 years old, and it's microprocessor-compatible, but
it's an
> > analogue to digital converter chip, not a computer. It's also not
in
> > my spares box, and I need one. Does anyone have a spare? Or a
data
> > sheet?
>
> I can't find a chip (although it sounds familiar for some reason),
but I
> do have a Ferranti data book that covers it. What do you need to
know?
Pinout, and if possible some timing info (conversion time etc) and what
voltage references it needs/has. I thought I had the RS data sheet for
it, but it's gone walkabout.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Hi Folks,
I am not familiar with the old HP calculators.
The local junkyard has a HP 9825A desktop calculator they can't sell
They intend to demolish it next week - is it worth saving it? or is the
world full of it?
It looks complete and has only some minor estetic damage.
gr.
Luc Vande Velde
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Van: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens Fritz Chwolka
Verzonden: donderdag 21 augustus 2003 17:05
Aan: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: Re: Anyone have copy of old BBS software
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:05:25 -0400, Cini, Richard wrote:
>Hello, all:
>
> Does anyone have a copy of some old BBS software for the PC
>platform, like WildCat, that I could get a copy of? I'd like to do some
file
>transfer testing among my classic platforms and thought an internal BBS
>would be a clean way to do it.
>
> Thanks.
>
>Rich Cini
Why don't use telemate, procomm or zock and use their internal host
like personal bbs ?
BBSen even here
http://www.eunet.bg/simtel.net/msdos/bbs.html
and here look for telix or telemate
http://www.vectorbd.com/bfd/telecomm/
Greetings from
Fritz Chwolka
<collecting old computers just for fun>
> www.alterechner.de <
> out of all the years I owned Computer Exchange Inc. I had only one 7970 hp
> tape drive that would read 7 track... even the ones that only read 7
> track must have been scarce too, or I just never attracted them!
Are you sure it was a hp 7970 ?
All hp7970 I found are 9-track ...
--
You must have not looked very hard.
page 1-02 of the 7970 manual at www.spies.com/aek/pdf/hp/tape/07970-90887_7970svc_Dec77.pdf
7970B/7970E magnetic tape unit configuration guide
model-option
7970B-136 200 556 800 7tk
7970E-164 200 556 800 1600 7tk 9tk slave
7970E-165 200 556 800 1600 7tk 9tk master
I don't have a vector file, but I do have some files which people might
find interesting. I have a scan of an 11/70 rack header panel which has
been retouched in Adobe Photoshop:
http://www.ubanproductions.com/panel1170b.jpg (97405 bytes)
I also have two Adobe Illustrator files of a re-created 11/70 rack
header panel which I made based on the original scan. The first of
the two Illustrator files includes the very large original scan, so
if you don't want that, please don't download it. The second file
only contains the Illustrator version of the panel. I think that
this reproduced image is very good and could be used to reproduce
a graphic for these panels:
http://www.ubanproductions.com/panel1170b.ai (4596764 bytes)
http://www.ubanproductions.com/panel1170.ai (169499 bytes)
Enjoy!
--tom
At 09:55 AM 8/29/2003 -0400, rogersda(a)cox.net wrote:
>BTW: Does anyone here happen to have a vector-graphic file of the digital
>logo? In any color?
>
>Dale
Just like to have a confirmation that it can read 7 and 9 track tapes
--
7 and 9 track 1/2" tapes have different track spacing, and require
different head stacks for each format.
the only drive I have ever heard of that was capable of reading both
were specially configured HP 7970's
Good luck finding a drive capable of reading 2400' 7 track tapes.
It took me several years to find just a 7 track head stack, and it
cost me $500.
If you ever wanted a DEC Computer Lab then now's your chance. There are 7
of these being offered on eBay right now:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3044043907&category=294
Check the seller's other auctions for links to the other ads. They all
have opening bids of $29.95.
--
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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[ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ]
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At 05:31 PM 8/24/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>1 Lot of 25 3' inch polished Silicon Wafers
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2552753957
Are these commonly available at Bay area surplus shops?
I've got some old 3 inch wafers, but I'd like some big ones, too.
- John
On Aug 28, 21:04, John Honniball wrote:
> Peter Turnbull wrote:
> > It's over 10 years old, and it's microprocessor-compatible, but
it's an
> > analogue to digital converter chip, not a computer. It's also not
in
> > my spares box, and I need one. Does anyone have a spare? Or a
data
> > sheet?
>
> I only have a couple of ZN428 chips, and the data sheet for them. I
may
> have data for the ZN448 -- I'll have a look. It was a Ferranti part,
> if that helps at all.
I know it's Ferranti. Unfortunately a ZN428E is the opposite -- a DAC.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Is it a MicroVAX 2000 or a VaxStation 2000? If it is a VS2000 I have the
manual for that, but not the MicroVAX 2000. The last post mentioned
a VS2000. That got me wondering which it is. The VS2000 expects a
video monitor, but the printer port defaults to 4800 baud.
Well, I just read more in the VAXstation 2000/MicroVAX 2000 hardware
guide. It says" "Because the operator console is a very important tool
in diagnosing system hardware failures, the VAXstation 2000/MicroVAX
2000 provides for an alternate console terminal in case the first one is
not working.
On a VAXstation 2000 or MicroVAX 2000, you may attach a terminal to
the printer using a BCC08 cable (see Figure 1-1). On a MicroVAX 2000
you must remove the DEC423 converter before connecting the BCC08 cable.
If this terminal is connected when the system is first powered on, it
becomes the "diagnostic" console terminal, and the primary console
terminal is disabled for further use as a console.
the pinout for the 9 pin printer connector, J3, is as follows:
1 chassis ground
2 xmt data
3 printer rcv data
4 n/c
5 +12vdc
6 n/c
7 chassis ground
8 ground
9 FER_ENA
without looking at the bcc08, i would bet that FER_ENA gets tied either
to +12 or ground to enable the port as a console. Well, a google search
shows that pin 8 and 9 get shorted for the BCC08, and
4 is RTS, 5 is DTR 6 is DSR and 7 is signal ground.
hope that helps
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/faq/vmsfaq_019.html
is the website for that info
Joe HEck
What baud rate, parity, data bits do you use for these and do you need to
press any certain key to get the system to recognize the terminal? I have
two of these. I tried to bring them up today. The closest setting that
seemed to work was 9600 Baud, 8N1. But all I could get on the display was
'||PPPP'. I got exactly the same from both CPUs.
Joe
Rumour has it that Al Kossow has managed to do without the formatter, but I have no further information.
--
The current state of the project is a friend of mine fabricated a shim for me to mount
a Cipher 7 track head on a Qualstar 1052 transport. I haven't said much about what I'm
doing because I wanted to buy enough cheap 1052's on eBay for experimentation (I have
about 10 of them now)
The 1052 is a VERY simple transport. I have the docs for it so I can hack the firmware
to just start the tape moving at a constant rate, ignoring BOT, EOT, etc.
I have a PC done with a bank of Analog Devices 10 bit A/D's and a FIFO which will feed
into my PCI macintosh though a bus mastering PCI ATA controller. Until I get that working
I'm going to use a couple of VMIVME 3115 A/D converter cards attached through a PCI-VME
converter for data capture.
The goal is to get something put together that is small enough to be able to be transportable
so that I can take the setup to where the tapes are, rather than risk having them lost
in shipment.
So anybody out here knows of any 7 track drives which are still easy (?)
to get and have some kind of "usual" interfaces ?
--
If you have 7 track tapes of historical significance, and are willing
to release their contents, there are a couple of people who will read
them for you.
You will not be able to either find an easy to get or 'usual' interface
as these devices have been out of production for over 30 years and every
source for heads has discontinued production. There are a (very) few
companies that have "new old stock" tape drives, which they are attempting
to sell for many thousands of dollars.
Robert <Robert_Feldman(a)jdedwards.com> wrote:
> What would be more useful than the color names (which can be used for different RGB colors) would be the Pantone or Munsel numbers. The DEC logos were trademarks. Does anyone know if the exact colors need to be specified when a trademark is registered? If so, then this information might be available from the federal trademark registry.
>
I do remember seeing such a specification, for the "company" logo color, anyway (the light "baby" blue). I may have even saved it - I just don't know where. I just searched my on-line disks and got no hits. I suspect that the only color you'll find in the trademark registry is Bob Palmer's "dried blood" burgundy.
Dale
What would be more useful than the color names (which can be used for different RGB colors) would be the Pantone or Munsel numbers. The DEC logos were trademarks. Does anyone know if the exact colors need to be specified when a trademark is registered? If so, then this information might be available from the federal trademark registry.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence LeMay [mailto:lemay@mail.cs.umn.edu]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 8:17 AM
To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
Cc: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: DEC colors
Standard 8/e is of course Amber and Terra Cotta. I've seen 8/F and 8/L
in that color scheme, as well as Orange and Terra Cotta for the 8/M.
Less standard color schemes for which i do not know the official color
names are the Industrial-8 colors (red and dark-blue), and another
8/e in light-blue and dark-blue.
-Lawrence LeMay
> The standard pdp/11 front panel colors are magenta and wild rose.
> >From memory the 8/e front panel is mustard and burnt orange
>
> Each DEC computer family in the 60's / early 70's had their own
> color. The LINC/PDP-12 was light and dark green, the 9 was a different
> shade of orange than the 8/e, and the 15's were light and dark blue,
> which was different from the PDP-10 blue.
> > What baud rate, parity, data bits do you use for these and do you need to
> 9600/8/n/1, no modem control
Ummm, DEC serial protocol (other than 20ma) uses "Xon-Xoff" flow control. Anything else will get you buffer overflow.
Dale
I can also make Otrona disks. I have CP/M (including source files for the BIOS and such programs as FORMAT) and MS-DOS 2.11H, that last (post bankruptcy) version. IIRC, it has hard disk support. I also have some issues of the FAUG (First Attache Users Group) newsletter and some FAUG programs on another disk.
Disks are 5.25", DS-DD.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: jim stephens [mailto:jwstephens_2000@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 5:27 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Attache Disks
I have dredged up my Atrona system and will try
to make some floppy copies for interested parties
soon.
I belive I have floppies to boot both the 8 bit
processor, and the 16 bit service processor into
MS/Dos 2.x (2.1 maybe).
I'll post again when I get the system tested and
running.
It uses standard 3 1/2" floppies (I think 720K,
again I'll have to post when I check it out).
Jim
Doc <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> wrote:
> I had a couple of VS2000 (Same box, with graohics) and routinely used
> a nearly-standard PC-type RS-232 null modem cable. You have to short
> two pins at the VAX side, but I do not remember which two. I found the
> pinouts in some FAQ or other online.
Since DEC used a "3 wire" subset of RS-232, DTR had to be locked "on".
Dale
Dave,
What looks like the Osborne 1 video adaptor is available from Alltronics (TTL-Composite video adaptor #92C024, $4.95)
http://www.alltronics.com/computer_miscellaneous.htm
It plugs on the edge connector on the front panel, in place of the shunt that is normally there.
I believe that the only voltage supply for the monitor comes from P9 by way of P5, the edge connector on the front panel.
I once had a 9" Panasonic open frame monitor that I used with my O1. I just wired it to a female edge connector socket that I used in place of the shunt. I also added a 100K pot for brightness control.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: ghldbrd(a)ccp.com [mailto:ghldbrd@ccp.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 2:15 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Osborne 1 monitor questions
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave [mailto:dfnr2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 2:03 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Osborne 1 monitor questions
> Hello,
>
> Thanks to the help of several of you, I have, after
> reparing the power supply, been able to verify that
> the CPU is running, and using the .PDF service manual,
> am able to get a signal on the video pin (8) after
> replacing the contrast pot. However, the monitor
> still produces no output. I have a couple of
> questions:
<snip>
>
> 2) What's the simplest way to use an external monitor
> for testing?
Wasn't there some sort of video adapter that plugged in where the jumper
was on the front panel.. ISTR it was a standard b/w NTSC monitor. One of
the surplus electronics places in CA was selling said item for about $4 or
so.
>
> 3) Does the monitor use the +12V line on the connector
> from the CPU board for all its power, including the HV
> converter?
I'd have to check the schematic, but it sounds logical (sorry Spock!)
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> David.
>
Gary Hildebrand
St. Joseph, MO
Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> wrote:
> > Perhaps is a problem of the cable and terminal you are using.
> > I have one DEC cable with MMJ connector, and use one VT-102
> > or one Compaq Portable with Kermit using VT-102 emulation to connect
> > with the Microvax 2000.
> >
> > Just curious... Do you have in the back of the Microvax one Box with
> > three MMJ connectors ? This is neccesary to connect with one Serial
> > Terminal (someone correct me if this is a mistake)
Depending on the specific model, the "console" port is either serial 1 or serial 3. Umm, wait - VAX 2000? - you aren't talking about the "lunchbox" VAX are you, perchance?"
> You just made me remember something. Joe, dig up the OpenVMS FAQ. If
> you're trying to connect via the 9-pin (or is it 25-pin) serial connection
> you'll probably have to make a special cable to connect, the pinout on the
> KA630 class systems is a bit odd as I recall. There is a MMJ adapter, but
> they're pretty rare.
Not rare at all. The H8571-J MMJ to DB9 adapter is still an orderable part. The "new" versions aren't as sturdy, though - as they are "clamshell" construction, rather than molded.
If you make up your own "DECconnect" cable, be absolutely certain that you put the locking tabs to the same side of the cable (I always put them to the "rib" side). The signal lines are .not. symmetrical, so flipping one connector doesn't make it a "null-modem" cable - it makes it utterly useless.
Dale
> With the Ronco Home Wafer Fab Line?
>
>
I passed on a three inch Mask Aligner once, went for $25 at the Oregon State
University Auction. Was in perfect shape and locked down. I bought the 4 inch
Mask Aligner for $150 and resold it on the used market. There was still demand
for it.
It is possible to have your own production line.
I have not seen many wafers in surplus stores. Wacky Willy in PDX had some
original Wacker test wafers many years ago but none recently.
I bought about 80 test wafers from Gene Amdahl's Trilogy project which I have
been parting out on eBay and privately.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
I have the manual somewhere but not easy to find.
Try turning it on while holding the reset button down until the lights flash
on the keyboard then press and release self test then let up reset. IIRC it is
something like that.
I am on the road at the moment but will look for the manual when I return to
Astoria.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
As heard from previous messages the TU10 would be capable of reading 7 & 9
track tapes.
I have a few TU10's available if someone is interested - they are complete
but might have some mechanical defects (especially those vacuum switches
fail often) - I haven't an idea what kind of controller they need, but I
probably have him somewhere (I bought this units some 25 years ago together
with a few 11/40's - racks of core memory and a few RP03 drives)
Luc
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Van: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens Al Kossow
Verzonden: vrijdag 29 augustus 2003 0:41
Aan: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: Re: 7 track tape drives
So anybody out here knows of any 7 track drives which are still easy (?)
to get and have some kind of "usual" interfaces ?
On Aug 27, 21:58, Joe wrote:
> At 08:21 PM 8/28/03 +0100, you wrote:
> >It's over 10 years old, and it's microprocessor-compatible, but it's
an
> >analogue to digital converter chip, not a computer. It's also not
in
> >my spares box, and I need one. Does anyone have a spare? Or a data
> >sheet?
>
> Who made it?
Ferranti.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Is anyone familar with this terminal? I have one and I've been using it
for years. I never had a manual for it and it took a while to figure out
how to use it but I did and I thought I understood it. UNTIL today! Today I
turned it off to disconnect a cable, when I turned it back on it said
Factory Cycle Test and started doing all kinds of self tests and video
tests. It endlessly repeats the tests and I can't find a way to stop it! I
have no idea why it started or how to stop the tests. Does anybody know? It
has both a Self Test and Reset buttons but neither one will stop the tests.
I've tried all combinations of them and the power switch. Reset does make
it reset and start over but it goes right back to running the same tests.
The SelfTest button USUALLY causes it to run a short self test but these
tests are much more extensive. When the tests start it displays a message
using the normal seelf test to control cycling or continous tests. I'm not
sure exactly what it means but I'm guessing that they mean to use the ST
button to control wheather the tests repeat or not. However I tried the ST
button and it doesn't appear to have any effect.
Anybody have a manual for this or know how to operate it?
Joe
At 08:56 AM 8/25/03 -0600, you wrote:
>You can get a DXF-to-HPGL converter (such as
http://www.imagespro.com/programs/2287/ ), then send the HPGL to the plotter.
>
>As far as getting an old copy of AutoCAD, you can pretty much forget that.
I was referring to picking on up surplus. I see them quite often around
here.
Joe
AutoDesk has been very aggressive at maintaing their IP. The only version I
have found on the web is one customized for the DEC Rainbow. There were
some other 2D CAD packages such as TurboCAD that could read DXF, and were
available as trial or free versions. You could Google for an older version
that is compatable with your plotters.
>
>Bob
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: hansp [mailto:hansp@citem.org]
>Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 3:56 AM
>To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>Subject: Re: Looking for plot data files
>
>
>Mail List wrote:
>> Hans,
>>
>> I think the "cut-away drawing of the space shuttle" was a demo .dxf
>> file that came with AutoCad.
>
>Thanks for the pointer. Searching for DXF on the web throws up a bunch
>of possible stuff. Now to figure out how to plot DXF files cheaply!
>
>I think the shuttel picture goes back further than that. Tektronix used
>it extensivly in their promotions of the 40xx series, that would be late
>70's
>
> -- hbp
> That's a good start. You should also file a complaint with the BBB
> (Better Business Bureau). Finally, for a good FTP client from a good
> company, might I suggest Van Dyke Software?
>
> http://www.vandyke.com
I don't know about your neck of the woods, Sellam, but here in Central Florida
where Joe and I live the BBB is little more than a shakedown for small
businesses. Each time they call me to solicit a membership and I tell them
that I'm not interested, they close the conversation by stating that "there
have been recent inquiries concerning your company" and "we'll get back to
those who inquired and let them know that you're not a member in good
standing and that you refused to provide us with information regarding your
business."
And BTW, what's wrong with the FTP client provided with Win9x? Sure, it's
command-line only, but IMHO beats paying for a GUI version . . .
Just my two cents worth . . .
Glen Goodwin
0/0
It's over 10 years old, and it's microprocessor-compatible, but it's an
analogue to digital converter chip, not a computer. It's also not in
my spares box, and I need one. Does anyone have a spare? Or a data
sheet?
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
First most of the ROMs for the 85 are available from my site
http://www.series80.org/Images
You will need, however, the 82929A Programmable ROM drawer
(check http://www.series80.org/Manuals/HP82929A.pdf to see how
it looks like), to be able to use the ROM image on your 85.
BTW if you have the 82929A, then you can also download the EMS
ROM which allows a far greater selection of drives to be used
with your 85.
Come to think of it, the EMS ROM code is quite small, so I wonder
if some person who understands 85 assembly can turn this into a
binary utility so that it can work elsewhere in memory.
Anyway, you may also get the Mass Storage ROM (manual at
http://www.series80.org/Manuals/HP85-MassStorage.pdf)
on eBay. This will allow the 85 to talk to 9121 3.5 inch drives which if I
am not mistaken will work with your 1631D analyzer.
Some day I may finally produce the HP 85 ROM emulator, but the way things
are going, don't hold your breath :-(
BTW I have finally managed to get a 98155A keyboard for my 9915's
(the embedded version of the the 85, brochure at
http://www.series80.org/Manuals/HP9915A.pdf)
I am also expecting a bunch of manuals for the 9915s. I hope to have them
up on my site by the end of the month.
Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> The 85 is a fine machine, it's too bad that they saddled it with a tape
> drive! It would have been a great machine if they would have replaced the
> tape drive with a 3.5" floppy drive.
But they did! Its called the HP Integral PC. Its faster, more compact,
has an ergonomic keyboard, and even has Unix when you want to go around
the back and fiddle with things.
Too bad its not as cute as the 85.
**vp
On the section on the 9825 it says:
> [The 9825T] also has a large warning label on outside top warning the
> user not to install any ROMs other than the 98211 Matrix ROM or the
> 98217A Flexible Disk Drive ROM. It says that installing any plug-in ROM
> that is already built into the calculator may damage the machine. I
> have never seen this warning on ANY other HP machine.
Actually the HP Series 80 computers also have a similar message (to the
effect that installing multiple copies of the same ROM could damage
the machine).
**vp
If this is a 125 inch/sec unit with 2 large vacuum columns I might have this
manual somewhere in a box deep in the cellar.
After all these years I am no longer sure about the numbers of this units.
A little confirmation please before I start digging...
Luc Vande Velde
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens emanuel stiebler
Verzonden: zondag 24 augustus 2003 23:52
Aan: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: kennedy 9300 tape drive
Anybody out here has a manual for this one ?
cheers & thanks
I suppose they can't sell it because nobody coming around knows what it is -
i am not exactly living in a high tek area and most of their customers look
for old machinery, not for electronic stuff.
I had a little talk with the guy who runs the place this afternoon - they
bought all the electro stuff from our ex-national air company Sabena who
went to heaven after a "succesfull" joint-venture with air-suisse.
They had tons of pc stuff they could sell pretty easy (who the hell bought
all this old 486 Compaq's)
The radio equipment is only good for scrap - mostly old Pye transceivers on
very un-usual frequency bands (70MHz range) and some air-band stuff
What's left is scrapped for aluminium, copper, gold and so on... among them
this 9825A - I think I'll buy it tomorrow if they give it away for let's say
10-20 Euro
I've seen also a few dozen Ampex 16 track recorders - nice technology but
what to do with it?
Besides they are standing outside in the rain, stacked 10 high... poor
devils...
I 'll let you know what options it has...
Luc
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Van: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens Joe
Verzonden: woensdag 27 augustus 2003 12:50
Aan: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: Re: HP 9825A rescue?
At 01:36 PM 8/28/03 +0200, you wrote:
>Hi Folks,
>
>I am not familiar with the old HP calculators.
>The local junkyard has a HP 9825A desktop calculator they can't sell
>They intend to demolish it next week - is it worth saving it? or is the
>world full of it?
Why can't they sell it?
>- is it worth saving it?
Yes but it sounds like you don't have any choice.
>or is the
>world full of it?
They're relatively common in this area but I'm close to several large
military contractors and Kennedy Space Center and they use a lot of them.
But they are neat machines and seem to run forever. It's probably one of
the best machines that HP ever built IMO. They run a OS/language called
HPL. It's a cross between APL and BASIC. Lots more details on my website at
<http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/hpdcalc.htm>.
What model is it? Open the paper cover and see what options it has.
Joe
>It looks complete and has only some minor estetic damage.
>
>gr.
>
>Luc Vande Velde
>
>
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>Van: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org
>[mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens Fritz Chwolka
>Verzonden: donderdag 21 augustus 2003 17:05
>Aan: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>Onderwerp: Re: Anyone have copy of old BBS software
>
>
>On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:05:25 -0400, Cini, Richard wrote:
>
>>Hello, all:
>>
>> Does anyone have a copy of some old BBS software for the PC
>>platform, like WildCat, that I could get a copy of? I'd like to do some
>file
>>transfer testing among my classic platforms and thought an internal BBS
>>would be a clean way to do it.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>Rich Cini
>
>Why don't use telemate, procomm or zock and use their internal host
>like personal bbs ?
>
>BBSen even here
>
>http://www.eunet.bg/simtel.net/msdos/bbs.html
>
>and here look for telix or telemate
>
>http://www.vectorbd.com/bfd/telecomm/
>
>
>
>Greetings from
>Fritz Chwolka
>
><collecting old computers just for fun>
>> www.alterechner.de <
Good point. I generally look at prominent display of BBB membership as
akin to a warning label. But complaining does have the potential to do
some good--you might help save the next guy from getting stung if he
happens to check.
IMHO, the BBB is (as has been pointed out) a protection racket for the
more shady businesses and a means of avoiding stricter regulation by
providing the appearance of a self-policing regime.
I've run into a problem with a software company called IPSWITCH that I
thought the rest of you might like to know about before you have any
dealings with them.
As some of you already know the hard drive in my PC crashed a couple of
weeks ago. One of the programs that I lost was fully licensed and
registered copy WS-FTP that I had purchased on-line only a week before from
IPSWITCH. I did manage to recover the registration information along with
the Proof of Purchase message from IPSWITCH. On the 20th, I contacted
IPSWITCH's customer support via their website and asked for replacement
copy of the program and gave them all of the required information. That was
almost a week ago and I never heard back from them. This morning I called
them and asked about the replacement program. They said that my program had
been de-activated for FRAUD and that I would have to buy a replacement
copy! Their policy clearly says that they will provide support and a
replacement program for up to one year and since I only bought this program
on the 13th of this month, I told them that there was no way that I was
going to pay for a replacement copy and was entitled to a free replacement.
They said that because I'd failed to provide my street address FOR THE
ON-LINE PURCHASE that they had revoked my registration! As you all
realize, there's absolutely no reason for them to require me to provide my
street address for an electronic purchase. The only possible reason that
they would need that would be in they intend to sell my address to the
junk-mail services. I asked about this and the representative got evasive.
I asked to talk to their manager and was given the run around. I left a
message for the manager to call me and none ever did. I've also called them
again this afternoon and again the manager "was not available". Again I
left a message for the customer service manager to call me but I still
haven't recieved a call and I doubt that I will.
I would strongly advise anyone NOT to do business with this company! Not
only do they fail to deliver the support that they say they will but they
also don't bother to reply to e-mails or phone calls. In addition, it
appears that they WILL re-sell their customer's personal information to the
junk-mail services and I would have to assume to any others such as
SPAMMERS and telephone silicitors as well. As for me, I'm going to contact
my credit card service and have them retract my payment to IPSWITCH and I
will never do business with them again!
Joe
Grab it Jay!
Joe
At 09:52 PM 8/27/03 -0500, you wrote:
>Seeing the HP-85 thread on the list, I remembered that I had one of these
>I wanted to get rid of. I'm asking $20 + shipping for it. I'm in West
>Lafayette, IN.
>
>Pat
>--
>Purdue University ITAP/RCS
>Information Technology at Purdue
>Research Computing and Storage
>http://www.itap.purdue.edu/rcs/
I have a source willing to get me 4 RL02 drives, a bunch of cartridges for
same, and a bunch of RK05 packs - all located in Rochester, NY. He's not sure
he wants to ship. Any chance a listmember could pick up for me and ship for a
fee?
>From same source I might also get a microvax, RSX distros and manuals, etc.
I now have an RK05 drive, so I am hoping to get my 8E up and running in a real
fashion. Still need 16 sector packs for the RK05 though. Oh, and I also
recently acquired an HP-85, man that thing is cute! Anyone have an assembler
rom module they will part with, and an advanced programming rom? Or better
yet, has anyone managed to reproduce the ... whatsit called... rom programming
pack, so you can copy the roms and use them that way?
Jay West
If anyone is looking for a TRS-80 Color Computer 2, this
gentleman is hoping to sell one. Contact me for his
e-mail address.
>I have a Radio Shack TRS-80 Color Computer 2 for sale name your price.
>Seems in good condition untested. Cables included and in original box. It
>is the extended 16k. Also if interested please state your way of payment.
>I don't know how much shipping will cost I will find out though if interested.
Cheers,
Dan
Hello.
> I have access to licenced VMS install CDs that came with some uVaxen
> some time ago at the University where I work. The systems have been
> surplussed long ago but we kept the software. If there a decent
> (free) emulator that will run these on a Windows/XP or Linux PC?
http://simh.trailing-edge.com
> The ones I've found on the net would appear to be either
> commercial or > sufficiently cut down or incomplete as not to be
> practical, but this is just from reading, not from using.
> I'd be delighted to be proven wrong.
Of course, I think that "cut down" is not exactly when you refers
to SIMH :-)
Cheers
Sergio
> and the Snoopy calendar series)
>
I had a copy of the Snoopy 1976? ASCII calendar. It came with my Litton 1251
and was on punch tape.
Paxton Hoag
Astoria, OR
Yes, I would love to get that file too! (all of them)
Since I work for Oc? and have access to A0 format plotters
I would like to hang that plot on my wall, at work *and*
at home too. Check out http://home.hetnet.nl/~tshaj and
click on the starfield image ...
- Henk.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Graham Toal [mailto:gtoal@gtoal.com]
> Sent: donderdag 28 augustus 2003 10:19
> To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Looking for plot data files
>
> I looked around a few times for the plot files that used
> to be commonly hung on office walls around 76-78 which were
> proper engineering drawings of the USS Enterprise
> (the original, no bloody A, B, C or D...)
>
> Although a few people have produced drawings in more recent
> times I could never find those early ones.
>
> (What I did find relatively recently were the printer ascii art
> files for Susie (girl on a chair) and the Snoopy calendar series)
>
> Graham
I looked around a few times for the plot files that used to be commonly
hung on office walls around 76-78 which were proper engineering drawings
of the USS Enterprise (the original, no bloody A, B, C or D...)
Although a few people have produced drawings in more recent times I
could never find those early ones.
(What I did find relatively recently were the printer ascii art files
for Susie (girl on a chair) and the Snoopy calendar series)
Graham
>> At the age of 47 I have finally reached the pinnacle of riffraffism, I
>>get two hair cuts a year, shave once a week, wear scratched bifocals,
>> drive a Ford F450 Super duty, Diesel no less, have a Jack Russell
terrier
>> named George, often fart in public and, are you ready for this, use a
>> Packard Bell as my primary computer. Any one care to try and beat
that?
>>
>> Riffraff Rich
Stephenson
>Now I'm sure we're related. --Patrick
Now we got em going Uncle Patrick ;-()
Rich
Last week I found in the local junkyard a Logic Analyzer Model PM3551A
The unit powers up and seems to be basically working but there are no
probes.
Has anyone an idea what kind of probes are needed (I hope they are
passive)and connection information?
A copy of the user/maintenance manual would also be nice.
gr.
Luc Vande Velde
