I'm wading through piles of junk in my garage and came across a DEC BC60L-03
cable. I'm not sure what it is for. The connector on one end is similar to a
parallel printer port connector, but a few pins smaller. The other end has a
27 pin high density D shell (I think it's 27 pins, my eyes get a little
fuzzy looking at it.) Available for free to a good home. All I ask is that
you pay shipping which is probably about $3.00. If you live in the SF Bay
area, you can stop by and pick it up for free.
Bill
Does anyone know of a supplier in Ireland/UK that would have VT510 (or
VT520) terminals available? I need one for a coworker in Cork.
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net
I have a VLB VGA card and a VLB IO card (ID, FDC, Parallel, Serial, Game).
Both are on their way to the trash unless claimed by someone.
Actually, come to think of it, if someone wants, they can have the whole
486 logic board they are on as well. It has a 50 MHz 486/DX2 chip on it.
That is also on the way to the trash.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Hi,
I am having trouble interfacing an HP86B to an HP7040 plotter with a serial
interface.
I have two HP serial interfaces: standard with male DB25 connector and
0pt.01 with female connector.
The plotter has a male DB25 connector.
I have connected the standard with with a gender changer and the opt. 01
directly without success.
I typed PLOTTER IS 10 and (the baud rate on the plotter is set at 9600)I get
an error message.
This is the first time I have tried a serial connection and unfortunately I
don't have any
documentation for the HP serial interface.
Do I need a null modem for the opt. 01 serial interface?
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks,
Bob
Hello Sellam,
> However, Ismail warned the replica would not appeal to everyone.
> There's a very limited library of software for the machine.
> Most Apple I software was written by hobbyists and never published
> commercially. And what programs there are will have to be typed in
> by hand -- in Basic or assembly code.
So perhaps you could put out a call to Apple I hobbyists that had written
programs, and ask that they make them public domain, and host a
library of them available for download on your web site?
And/or if you'd like to generate a bit of revenue, perhaps you could get
permission
to sell CD's of the library, something like Walnut Creek did with shareware,
for those that don't want to spend the time downloading, and would rather
just purchase a CD full of them?
Best Regards
>I have a older Vox-On monitor that is configured like that. I also seem
>to remember some older NEC models that needed a HD15 to DE9 cable. I
>still have the cable, so I can look at it when I get home. As far as the
>Sabre label, American Airlines used to private label a lot of AST
>computers and monitors as Sabre for distribution to travel agencies for
>connection to the Sabre reservation network. There were a lot of P100
>Sabre systems floating around DFW for a while.
No sooner did I post the email than I found one DE9 to HD15 cable. It had
fallen behind the cabinet that one of the monitors was sitting on top of.
So now I have at least one cable and can use that to make a 2nd if need
be.
I think you might be right on the Sabre label. It does look like the
American Airlines Sabre system logo (although it has been a long time
since I have seen that logo so I might be wrong). I'm not sure how I
wound up with two monitors from their systems however.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
I have two rather old monitors marked as "Sabre" on the front. They have
a DE9 female socket on the back, but also carry a label claiming the
monitors to be SVGA. I've never seen SVGA use DE9 connectors, I've always
seen them with the high densitry 15 pin connectors (as commmonly seen on
current PC monitors).
Anyone know the pinout for an adaptor? Anyone have a particular desire
for these monitors?
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
I picked this up the other day. I THINK it's a hand held terminal. It was
made by Two Technologies Inc of Horsham, Pa and it's model number is
TT1-R2-2. It's a blue box slightly larger than a pack of cigarettes and has
a LCD screen and a membrane type keyboard. The keyboard seems to have all
the usually alphabetic, numeric and puctuation keys plys F1 to F5, Shift,
Control, Space, Back Space and Enter. it has a curly cord on the bottom.
The curly cord has RJ-11 six pin connector on each end. It does not have
any batteries or power connection so it must get it's power from what ever
it's plugged into. I searched the net but didn't find anything about Two
Industries or this device. Is anyone familar with it?
Joe
Your experience is not uncommon among customers of
Darek's ("Idiots" as he likes to term them).
Sorry to hear you also had a problem with him.
You are in great company though. LOL!!!
Regards,
Al Hartman
(Macintosh Emulation List Host)
http://www.topica.com/lists/MacEmuList
> From: <rs(a)therica.net>
>
> Dennis- did anyone ever help you out? I'm far from
> Atari these days, brain-dust at this point, but I
> was trying to remember who made the Happy, and
> your post was the first thing shown in the Google
> search. I might have a copy of the manual
> somewhere, buried in this house, if you still need
> help. I decided a few nights ago to see what was
> new in the emulator world, having briefly attempted
> to convert over to that in the mid-90's, and had
> such a hostile and arrogant reply from Darek
> Mihocka, what a ******. It brought back memories
> of other unpleasant individuals in this same genre
> of the old Atari world from years past.
>
> best,
> Rob
>> I have an old IBM 3.5" 720KB floppy, meant to be installed in an XT. The
>> kit came with a 5.25" floppy that contained drivers, and a program called
>> "35INSTAL.COM".
>If you upgrade to DOS 3.20 or newer, then you do NOT need that disk.
>If your XT has IBM's BIOS, then you need to add DRIVER.SYS to your
>CONFIG.SYS file.
>If you are using a non-IBM BIOS, then you can use DRIVPARM instead
>(in MS-DOS, and present but not documented in PC-DOS)
>NOTE: DRIVPARM is incompatible with IBM's BIOS.
>If you want to use DOS <3.20, then you want that disk.
>NOTE: SOME versions of MS-DOS 2.11 support 720K.
Fred,
That did it! And a big "duh" on my part ....
The PC in question is an original IBM PC/XT 5160, and it has a 1/2 height
360KB drive, and a hard drive (10MB full-height 5.25" w/ XEBEC Controller).
There was a hole above the 360KB drive dying to have a drive put in :-), so
I added the 720KB disk (an original IBM part). The hard drive boots IBM DOS
3.30, so I gave DRIVER.SYS a try -- It worked first shot! Of course, I
could have looked in my IBM DOS 3.30 manual, but that would have been to
easy :-)
Thanks again!
Rich B.
In a message dated 9/7/2003 5:12:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
spectre(a)floodgap.com writes:
> I got about half that about 4 years ago from a complete pcjr package deal
> with some reference books.
> guess I better email the winner and offer him a pcjr box that I found on
the
> side of the road just last year <?> and a jr monitor still in the box, heh.
Hey, my unit has some extra RAM and the parallel port expansion. Wonder
what he'd pay for those? ;-)
Never mind, I actually *like* the PCjr. It's an intriguing orphan.
it's not bad. Mostly bought by IBMers I'm sure. I've got lots of jr stuff.
Now that I'm moving my entire collection to the house, I hope to find all the
parts to connect up the jr hard drive to see if it actually works.
Found two of these this morning. I think they're some kind of bridge
board but I'm not sure. The cards are about 4 x 7" and have three LSI on
them along with various EPROMS and SSI ICs. The three main ICs are a
NCR/5380 SCSI interface, a WDC 2793 FD controller and a Hitachi HD63B03
CPU. Also has a 4 pin power connector like that used on a disk drive. Three
are two other coonectrors, one is a 34 pin IDC header and the other is a 50
pin IDC header. There are also three socketed resistor packs (terminating
resistors?).
Anybody know any more about these?
Joe
> > Anyway, I'm one of the younger members of this list, but many of my
> > computers are older than I am by a significant margin.
>
> Last time I demonstrated one of my minis to a university computer club, I
> suddently realised that the machine was older than the students :-)
>
> -tony
I think that one shouldn't forget how difficult it is, to get "old and interesting" machines.
To get a PDP-8 is certainly not easy if you just started collecting and if don't live in the states were it's a bit easier to get old computers.
I belong to the young members, too and I'm proud of my PDP11/23 I got on Ebay.
Young guys will certainly start to collect 10 or 15-year-old machines.
Computers of the 60s and 70s are cool, but try to find them in the year 2003 for less money...
Besides, nice machines were built in the 80s, I wouldn't draw a line at 1980...
Pierre
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Have a bunch of items needing new homes,
most are freebies. Contact me off-list
thanks,
-nick o
-- free, local pickup only, NO shipping!
-MicroVAX III+ in a BA23 pedestal cab (11/73 badge):
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-Mac 7300/180, 4.5Gb hd, keyboard+mouse
-HP Network Analyzer J2219 FDDI (486 color laptop)
-misc DEC drives: tzk12 tk50 (2)rz24 (2)rz26 (2)rz28
-- other freebies, U-pay shipping:
(2) KDA50 m7164, m7165, w/manual
(1) m9401
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RF series user guide(covers 31,35,36,72,73,74)
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(3) la36 user guides
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$50 Digital Alpha 366XL, 256mb kbd+mouse
The Happy Enhancement was made by Happy Computing who also did TurboDOS... I have several images of the rom's and I may have a manual if anyone needs it, let me know.
Curt
> Dennis- did anyone ever help you out? I'm far from Atari these days,
> brain-dust at this point, but I was trying to remember who made the Happy, and
> your post was the first thing shown in the Google search. I might have a copy
> of the manual somewhere, buried in this house, if you still need help. I
> decided a few nights ago to see what was new in the emulator world, having
> briefly attempted to convert over to that in the mid-90's, and had such a
> hostile and arrogant reply from Darek Mihocka, what a ******. It brought back
> memories of other unpleasant individuals in this same genre of the old Atari
> world from years past.
>
> best,
> Rob
>
>
>
> Happy Enhancement
> murphy, dennis b (BMC Eng) cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
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> Hello all,
>
> Just broke my old Atari out of jail (closet). The setup is an Atari 800
> with 2-810 disk drives, one of them with the Happy Enhancement. I can't for
> the life of me fine the manual for the Happy drive. Can anyone help.
>
> Thanks,
> Dennis
>
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Hello everyone!
Since some people requested it, I uploaded the complete manual today. I
hope it will be of use for some of you:
http://cpp.seriousassault.de/pdp8/
Tell me if something is unreadable or if you have any suggestion for
improvement!
Regards,
Sebastian
PS: www.pdp8.net seems to have the same manual available for a few days
now. I did not yet have the time to check it out. Is it exactly the same?
Anybody on the list have the apple II scsi card rev "c" rom that they can make
a copy off? I am getting a scsi card for my IIgs but it only has revision "b"
rom. I dont have the "c" code or a burner. Willing to pay for the ROM chip and
shipping to Ohio.
Thanks
A Guide to the PC-Turing Interpreter, J.N.P. Hume (don't have the disk),
1986
The Turing Language Report, Richard C. Holt and James R. Cordy, 1983 (2
copies)
Neither has an ISBN.
Anyone want?
-Philip
> Remitente: jim stephens <jwstephens_2000(a)yahoo.com>
Hello !
> Ibm had a distribution of the Pcode and UCSD pascal
> that came in the same beige / pink boxes that Dos was
> in. I have that set.
Well... Having in mind the difficult of locate any kind of operative
UCSD system in the Internet and any other place... Perhaps one
security copy of the USCD disks could be realized to allow some
believers to see the light :-)
It's only a suggestion, of course :-))
Cheers
Sergio
Jim,
Thanks for putting the 29A .pdf files online. We really
needed them for our programmer, to reprogram some old
parts in a vital system that's still working out there in the field.
Lance
Greetings-
this is a message for Tim Rutherford; i found your post to i'm not even sure
what via yahoo, you were looking for a Tektronix 4205. i've got one,
including keyboard and mouse, but i have not even powered it up yet. are
these things worth anything? thanks. jt
I've posted the interviews I had with several personal computer
"pioneers" and a lecture by Roger Amidon at the 1985 National Computer
Conference at www.sideslip.net/vintage_computing/1985_interviews (note
that URL has underscores - vintage_computing and 1985_interviews. CDs
are available for those who don't want to endure a 144M download.
Current CD orders will go out this weekend.
Please consider all material released to the public domain under the GNU
copyleft agreement.
Jack Rubin
Wilmette, Illinois
USA
Dennis- did anyone ever help you out? I'm far from Atari these days,
brain-dust at this point, but I was trying to remember who made the Happy, and
your post was the first thing shown in the Google search. I might have a copy
of the manual somewhere, buried in this house, if you still need help. I
decided a few nights ago to see what was new in the emulator world, having
briefly attempted to convert over to that in the mid-90's, and had such a
hostile and arrogant reply from Darek Mihocka, what a ******. It brought back
memories of other unpleasant individuals in this same genre of the old Atari
world from years past.
best,
Rob
Happy Enhancement
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Hello all,
Just broke my old Atari out of jail (closet). The setup is an Atari 800
with 2-810 disk drives, one of them with the Happy Enhancement. I can't for
the life of me fine the manual for the Happy drive. Can anyone help.
Thanks,
Dennis
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Most recovery techniques rely on reducing the manuals
moisture to a certain level and maintaining it there
and
the the best way I heard was to take to a facility
that
can freeze dry and vacumn dry in parallel.
The contents of the Los Angeles public library was
nearly destroyed but for using old aerospace
facilities
around the area to put large quantities of books into
old vacumn test chambers with liquid nitrogen cooling,
and some mods to the vacumn systems to tolerate the
extraction of the moisture.
Most computer manuals are printed on paper that shoulc
be recoverable, since it basically is high rag based
paper, w/o any applied coatings.
The sort of papers used by magazines use either
plactic
coatings, or a very fine clay coating with treatment
over paper to get the "slick" look, and those were
nearly impossible to recover. (unless new techniques
were developed since I last read, anyway).
I don't know if you can do this with any resources you
have, or know of, but the vacumn / freeze dry method
is the best I have heard of.
Of course be sure to pack it to guard against mildew
and rot, or you won't have anything worth restoring
either.
Jim
Anybody know anything about these? I spotted one in a scrap yard. It's a
white box about the size on and end table. I searched the net for info on
it but didn't find much and none of the hits talked about the hardware or
what software it ran. I opened the front and it had a 5 1/4" hard drive, 5
1/4" tape drive and a 3 1/2" hard drive all mounted in removable sleds. I
grabbed the one in the 3 1/2" sled since it looks like it will fit my
Indigo. But I'm wondering if the whole thing is rare and should be rescued.
Joe
The other day I found 10 in the box games with manuals and overlays at the
local Goodwill. :-) Could not find the console or any other parts of it.
:-( I got the following; Scramble, Star Trek, Ripoff, Webwars, Berzerk,
Spinball, Pole Position, Solar Quest,Armor Attack, and Heads Up Action
Soccer.
I think my SWTPC is going to be my next restoration project. Mine has a
Percom LFD-400B Mini-Disk Controller. Does anyone here have any information
about it? It's not listed on Michael Holley's website. I also need info
about a Boaz 64k (32k installed) memory board if anyone has any but it's
not as crutial as the FD cntroller.
Joe
Anybody know anyting about an OLD (76ish) AMI system with a 6800 or 6809
CPU that ran Flex? I've been offered one and I'd like to know more about
it. The chassis and such are home made but the cards are factory made. I
have some pictures that I can provide if anyone wants to see them.
Joe
BTW I meant to add that the seller's father bought the boards directly
>from AMI as part of a bulk purchase through a "computer club" that he used
to be a member of. He lived in Palo Alta and worked at SRI (Stanford
Research Institute) at the time. I wonder if he was a member of the
original Home Brew Computer club and bought the boards through them? He was
in the right area at the right time. I'm trying to get more details. BTW
does anybody know if there's a list posted anywhere of the early members of
the Home Brew Computer club?
Joe
>At 10:34 AM 9/6/03 -0400, Roger wrote:
>>Rumor has it that Joe may have mentioned these words:
>>>Anybody know anyting about an OLD (76ish) AMI system with a 6800 or 6809
>>>CPU that ran Flex? I've been offered one and I'd like to know more about
>>>it. The chassis and such are home made but the cards are factory made. I
>>>have some pictures that I can provide if anyone wants to see them.
>>>
>>> Joe
>>
>>If it ran FLEX, it's *probably* 6809-based -- I dunno if there was ever a
>>FLEX for 6800; but there was even a version of FLEX for the Tandy CoCo.
>
> I don't know if it ran Flex when it had a 6800 CPU but it started out
with a 6800 and was later upgraded to a 6809. I have a couple of 8" disks
>from it and they have Flex on them.
>
>>
>>Other than the requisite: "If you don't want it... don't forget me"
>>statement, I'd say 'Snag it' ->
>
> That's already in the works! :-)
>
>
>it's prolly at least as rare as an Apple 1;
>>mind you, prolly not worth as much (yet) but IMHO, more interesting (as the
>>6809 *is* my favorite processor... ;-)
>>
>>Oh, and I wouldn't mind seeing the pix...
>
> OK I'll send them to you directly. If there's enough interest I'll
post them on the web.
>
> Joe
>>
>>HTH,
>>Roger "Merch" Merchberger
>>
>>--
>>Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers
>>zmerch(a)30below.com
>>
>>What do you do when Life gives you lemons,
>>and you don't *like* lemonade?????????????
Hello all,
I have an old IBM 3.5" 720KB floppy, meant to be installed in an XT. The
kit came with a 5.25" floppy that contained drivers, and a program called
"35INSTAL.COM". The floppy is totally unreadable, so I cannot complete the
installation on my XT. Does anyone have this diskette who could loan it to
me, or make me a copy? I can get the drive's part number, if necessary...
Thanks!
Rich B.
A Guide to the PC-Turing Interpreter, J.N.P. Hume (don't have the disk),
1986
The Turing Language Report, Richard C. Holt and James R. Cordy, 1983 (2
copies)
Neither has an ISBN.
Anyone want?
-Philip
Has anyone actually tried to scale "on-topic" into something we can wrap our
arms around? Once upon a time, I was told that any platform carrying a
version of Windows was off topic. What of my DEC SL486DX with DOS 5.0,
WIndows 3.1 and Office 4.0? The DEC manufacturer's tag clearly shows a
manufacture date of 1991 (so did some of the files I cleaned out of it...).
A DEC recovery service tag also clearly shows a complete overhaul in 1993.
Is it on-topic by year of manufacture, but off-topic because of its onboard
applications? What applies? What doesn't?
Ed Tillman
Store Automation Tech Support Specialist
Valero Energy Corporation
San Antonio, Texas, USA
Office: (210)592-3110, Fax (210)592-2048
Email: edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com>
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From: Mail List [mailto:mail.list@analog-and-digital-solutions.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:15 AM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: Dec or Digital Networking
Hello Don,
> Or, why not simply items that apply/relate to equipment at least 10 years
old?
That too. In fact, upon further reflection, I thought that there might still
be items that were released 10+ years ago, that might now be considered
classic, but might still be being manufactured new, and still sold, even by
the original equipment manufacturer. No specific example comes to mind,
but there must be some. So, I thought a refinement to be, "items which were
originally released 10 or more years ago, regardless of whether or not still
being made and sold", and as you have suggested, "items that apply/relate to
equipment at least 10 years old" might be the best definition to apply as
to whether or not an item is, or is not, on topic.
Best Regards
[...] Pared for bandwidth... -- Ed
This is a repost; I never saw my original message make it through to the
list. Apologies if this is a duplicate and I just missed it...
I've been working from a set of H-88 schematics for a long, long time,
extrapolating and tracing differences between the '-88 and the '-90.
I was wondering if anyone either had a spare copy of the schematics they'd
be willing to sell to me, or make a brief loan of them so I can run a copy
of them on a large-format duplicator, or...?
Thanks in advance! --Patrick
Hi
I believe that John Rible owns the publication rights
to these. He would have it in a computer readable format.
You might contact him at:
jrible(a)sandpipers.com
later
Dwight
>From: vance(a)neurotica.com
>
>On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Hans B Pufal wrote:
>
>> >Anyone know where I can get (or even borrow) one? I don't need an
>> >original. A replica will do.
>>
>> A couple of years ago I bought two original CARDIACS from teh official
>> Bell Labs distributer :
>>
>> COMSPACE CORP
>> 117 Engineers Drive
>> Hicksville NY 11801
>> (516) 942 8191
>
>Original as in non-replica? Cool!
>
>Peace... Sridhar
>I understand that you have an installation manual for the BOGEN model
>CHS-60A
>Amplifier. I would like to know if you could share it with me?
Sorry to say, I no longer have that manual, I mailed it to someone that
asked for it a number of weeks ago.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Eric,
It may not be as bad as it sounds. Just like the IA64 has ended up being "finished" by a lot of Alpha Engineers (they got the last 150 from HP about a month ago), it appears that next major version of HP/UX is going to end up being a lot more "Tru64" than HP/UX. HP has made commitments to retain the distinguishing features of Digital Unix, e.g. clustering and AdvFS, and they don't plan on offering two parallel versions, one with and the other without. It will be easier to include the "look and feel" of HP/UX into Tru64 - and call it HP/UX - than to make HP/UX do *real* clustering.
It's sorta like buying a Bentley ... it's still mainly Rolls-Royce under the skins.
Dale the DECdude
> I really prefer Tru64. I'm really not happy that HP is going with the
> inferior HP/UX instead.
>> The reason Sellam never got a response to his query was because I still have
>> not caught up on all my emails from being out a few days (funeral). I am
>
>IIRC, he was grousing about the moderation and management of ANOTHER list.
Correct, I was complaining about the lists provided by LowEndMac.com
>I have yet to hear any valid complaints about what you do.
>Your common sense approach has worked well for us.
I've got no complains about the way this list is run.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
I am trying to add a user acct to my Alpha System running Dec Unix 4.08.
I am logged in as root. When I use the GUI the error message I get when
trying to open AcctManager is that
bin/x11/dxacct requires system PRIVILEGED access. The dialog box has three
choices 1. RUN as ROOT; 2. RUN as ROOT, 3.Cancel : Either run as root times
out with no more dialog for create, or what ever....
When I pull up a terminal window and do "who" I see a "root console", a
"root TTY", and a third "root :0" user.
When I try running DXacct from the Bash 2.02# command line I get a message
stating "Another user" has the Passwd and Group files locked - Try again
later.
What is wrong with my environment? Why three root instances? Can
someone suggest A better forum to get such an answer?
I am a Digest subscriber, contact me offlist at truthanl at columbus rr
com.
Sincerely Larry Truthan
>I agree that the list runs fairly well without a "list nazi" stomping
>around policing everyone's posts. I'm on several Mac lists on LEM. I
>posted a question on a list and was slapped down by the list police. It
>concerned a Daystar Genesis with a G4 upgrade card running OS-X. It
>seems that it wasn't welcome on the Powermac list becase Apple didn't
>make it. It wasn't welcome on OldMacMP list because it wasn't running
>it's original MP processor card and it wasn't welcome on the G-List
>becasue it wasn't a factory G-4. The only place it was considered on
>topic was on the Unsupported-X list.
The LEM lists, while can be helpful, are VERY VERY bad examples of a
"nice" list. They are however great examples of how to run a list who's
goal is to piss off every subscriber inside of 6 months.
The nazis they have as list nannies are unreal, and the list mom may be
the worst of the bunch. I think even Sellam would find their level of
topic policing to be too much ;-)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Hell!
I just picked up a modem for a classmate (I finance the restoration with
tech support - *sigh*), and on the label on the outside, with the
supported protocols, and along with the V.24 V.90 yadda yadda there was
at the end, Bell 103, Bell 212A...! (I may have the numbers slightly
off, but I'm sure about the 103 part).
...Is this a common protocol? In a brochure that came with the DECUS
newsletter, about Telecommunications, it mentioned these protocols, and
described them as Low-Speed (defined as less than 2000 baud, I believe).
This was also mentioned as built-in options for the TTY 33's, and I seem
to recall them being mentioned several other places.
Is this me being wrong, has the protocol been constantly upgraded
speedwise, is the protocol "Just something that stuck around", and
therefore direly needing support from every new modem? Or is this just a
case of truly, *truly* excellent backwards compat? I mean, the brochure
was all in all dated 1967.
-Tore
(: Lame smilies and RaNdOm CaPiTaLiSaTiOn, oh, and 5(R33P733 57Y13
writing makes you live longer, d00d! OmG! :) :O!!! :)!!!
Does anyone have a spare video cable for the Ampro SBCs with built-in video
ports? Or a schematic? It uses a 2 x 11 retangular socket. See
<http://www.ampro.com/assets/applets/lb-486i.pdf> for a picture.
Joe
On 2003.09.03 23:52 Eric Dittman wrote:
> Didn't Linux run on Alpha in 64-bit mode before NetBSD?
http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/alpha/
NetBSD/alpha is a true 64-bit system that fully implements the LP64
architecture, using 64-bit pointers and 64-bit long integers (standard
integers are still 32 bits) in a linear four terabyte (4TB) address
space. NetBSD/alpha was the first free OS to run on the Alpha and
supports by far the largest number of alpha system types of any free OS.
--
tsch??,
Jochen
Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/
What TeoZ says has happened/is happening to the Obsolete Computer Helpline, which now, IMHO, has lost most of its usefulness.
The classiccmp list seems fairly good at selfpolicing, however. It just sometimes gets off into too much YADA YADA YADA ;)
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Vintage Computer Festival [mailto:vcf@siconic.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:15 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: YADA10YR (Yet Another Discussion About the 10 Year Rule)
On Thu, 4 Sep 2003, TeoZ wrote:
> the reason I joined the list. As newer and younger people join the list I
> would assume the focus would change to newer equipment. If you want to keep
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Wrong. If the focus of this list ever changes to supporting old PCs then
it has effectively died. Old computers don't die. They just get older.
--
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
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> > > The *BEST* OS to run on an Alpha is OpenVMS, and you can run MySQL under
> > > OpenVMS, but I think it takes some effort.
> >
> > Err, now THAT is what I call flamebait.
>
> Not really. OpenVMS is the best OS for Alphas, since OpenVMS is the best overall
> OS. :-)
Took the words right out of my mouth. ;)
Dale, the DECdude
Someone asked a few weeks ago for a copy of the DSM distribution
tape.(9track 1600bpi)
I found it back this afternoon (by accident in a search for some other old
stuff)
To make it clear - this is the native version of DSM (Digital Standard
Mumps) version 3.3
and it runs only on PDP11 not on vax or other PDP's
Min. machine on UNIBUS = 11/40 on QBUS = 11/23
If someone can tell me how to make it available I have my ears wide open; or
if someone is willing to do that's even better
gr.
Luc